"Nope, I Still Don't Have A Penis!" Julia Hartley-Brewer's Clash With Peter Tatchell on Trans Issue
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2024
- Rishi Sunak provoked outrage with his comment about the “definition of a woman” in the Commons, as the mother of murdered trans teenager Brianna Ghey visited Parliament.
The Prime Minister clashed with Sir Keir Starmer over the continuing trans debate at PMQs as Esther Ghey was due to appear in the public gallery just four days after her 16-year-old daughter’s killers were jailed for life.
Sunak accused the opposition leader of being incapable of “defining a woman” and that it was one of a number of issues on which he had performed a U-turn.
Brianna’s father Peter Spooner demanded an apology, saying he was “disgusted” with Mr Sunak, before branding the comments “degrading” and “absolutely dehumanising”.
TalkTV's Julia Hartley-Brewer is joined by human rights activist Peter Tatchell to discuss the Prime Minister's comments.
Julia asks: “Why should the ability to debate in politics be affected by a grieving mother?”
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Tachchell is not a human rights activist he's a LGBT right activist
He is wok activist
If you read some of his earlier stuff you’ll see he’s something else too. Or at the very least adjacent to that something else.
or pervert to be more accurate
He's a MAP
Yup
Tatchell makes me feel transphobic, since I’m being coerced into a lie. Infuriating
I think he's perpetrating a hate crime on us, imposing his sickness on to others.
As usu😊al Peter tries to make hay with the slight tword 15:26😊 "transphobic people " Gay,Man who has stood up for Male 😊 Gay rights but not those of real gay women , go figure , I am a heterosexual male , I feel sorry for the youth of today my 2 kids are doing OK not bothering with this shite Tiochfaidh are La ,❤
"respectful" "kindness" "agree to disagree" givemeabreak!!! He never explained why and how people are "demonized" An utterly "woke" misunderstanding of critizism
@@davidcashen7742 Similar stance as you, raising my kids to respect people but not sign up to the notion that men can become women and women can become men.
There's respect and having something based on unreality forced on you. Why should women and girls have to suffer and feel vulnerable at the behest of something not true? I was recently in a mixed ward in hospital, the majority being male and felt extremely uncomfortable, a lack of privacy at the same time feeling ill and vulnerable. This needs to stop. Women need their own spaces and need to feel safe especially as the majority are weaker.
He said nothing about Brianna or about trans .He mocked Starmers indecision , nothing more . Manufactured outrage for political ends . Despicable
Julia I am the father of two daughters. I am horrified by the way men are infiltrating female spaces in sport never mind bathroom areas! The whole thing is completely ridiculous so thank you for standing up for women.
Keir is disgusting.
So is Tatchell.
Ditto that
so is Tatchell--and he is a a lot more dangerous. Do you have daughters?
It’s the sons you need to worry about with him@@helenromanelli2544
They r politicians
Pathetic from Tatchell and Starmer.
Brilliant from Julia.
Julia is not brilliant! 😂
She talks facts, the rest of them talk nonsense, there’s reality and delusion, the Trans ideology is delusion.
Really? Starmer asked a question about the NHS. Sunak didn't answer the question but responded with cheap jibes about other stuff, one of which was a trans joke while the mother of a murdered trans tennager sat in the gallery. Tell me, who is pathetic there? Julia is just being a shill for the Tories here. I also hope you also don't have to experience the failures of the NHS anytime time soon. If you do, you will understand why the questions need to be asked, and how little the PM can be bothered to address them.
@@altclut She's the best
She's good but not brilliant, and TWATCHELL and Starmer are not just pathetic but sick too the core...
Tatchell hates women with a vengeance. What-on earth did his mummy do to upset him so much?
Named him Peter ..!!!
Poor little boy. His parents did not protect him from the trans lies.
Sunak stated a fact and kier turned it into the murder of Brianna disgusting
Agree 💯
When you insult trans people, you are insulting real human beings.
Brianna's father wants an apology
@@connor5669hopefully he won’t get one. He’s not owed one.
@@graemebarriball303 keep being cruel and lose the next election
When did it become normal to discriminate against women
A very good question. When did it? Women have rights too, but these Men don't think we should have.
At about the same time that we started to discriminate against men....
As soon as the left took hold over everything.
I wonder what the suffragettes from 100 years ago would think today if they saw that men who claimed to be women were allowed access to women’s spaces and were legally recognised as women. I don’t think they’d be too amused
Discrimination is actually a high brow means of filtration. It's also known as discernment. I fail to see the negative issue. Only a fool doesn't discriminate. Everyone does it automatically, it's a survival tactic, it's intellectually superior. Would anyone drink milk that stinks? Buy a house next to a chemical dump? Go outside in winter without clothes? Thoth from Atlantis, Hermes trismagistus, do they have an issue with discrimination? No. So, the greatest minds that ever existed use discrimination, but you can't. Strange times.
JULIA, YOU ARE NOT LETTING ME SPEAK, THAT'S VERY RUDE!
Meanwhile, he's telling her that men are the same as her.
I find it utterly disturbing that Peter repeatedly refers to actual women as 'other' women here
Peter gives me the creeps. I don't think Sunak said anything wrong. It's a bit sick that Starmer would use the mother to score points though. I don't understand why this case gets so much attention anyway. One child's life shouldn't hold more value than another's.
Imagine someone becoming prime minister that can't define a woman.
Imagine someone becoming a prime minister not elected by the people at a general election 🤔.
@@davidwilliams116like Gordon Brown?
I was just thinking the same God help us..😔
Have you seen his front benches ,? I have a problem when I see them.
@@davidwilliams116 You don’t elect a prime minister in a general election, you elect a party. Most people are aware of this. It’s not a US presidential election.
'Brianna' was not a woman or a girl. Everyone, including Starmer himself, knows it.
The fact that Brianna was brutally murdered doesn't mean that anyone should lie about the fact that Brianna was a confused boy, not a girl of any kind.
Transwoman -woman identified as male at birth
Exactly. It’s like the emperor has no clothes on and no one dare say it.
Why does Twatchell keep saying " Bryanna was horrifically and brutally murdered" we know it is true BUT does the parents need to be reminded of the brutal attack ? Does Twatchell not think those words are upsetting ?
He lost the argument here, well done Julia.
Starmer should apologise for being a Prat and faking his astonishment at Sunaks comment.
Guess you’re a Sunak supporter …which is nothing to boast about
Neither is being a Starmer supporter😂😂😂@@brianperry
@@brianperryat least Rishi Sunak knows what a woman is.
You don't have to be a Sunak supporter to see that Starmer is a total muppet.
@@brianperry I’m not a fan of either of them but Starmer has done his usual and made a total prat of himself!
And no , he doesn’t know what a woman is !
Keir tried the oldest trick in the lefty arsenal; faux anger on behalf of someone else.
Really? Starmer asked a question about the NHS. Sunak didn't answer the question but responded with cheap jibes about other stuff, one of which was a trans joke while the mother of a murdered trans tennager sat in the gallery. Sunak could have just answered the question about the NHS instead. But here you are, ignoring all of that.
@postcardsfromprotest It wasn't actually a joke. A was a valid observation and criticism. Yet another trick up the leftists arsenal.. attempting to silence observations and criticisms via faux anger to stoke up a backlash. People have woken up now and see right through it.
@postcardsfromprotest ill type this out again, as somehow my previous reply has been taken off.
Rishi never made a joke. He made a valid point. Another trick in the leftists arsenal; using that faux anger to stoke up a backlash to silence observations and criticisms. People see through it now.
Why couldnt Sunak answer a simple question? Why bring up Trans people to explain why the Tories have not funded the NHS?
I've answered the 1st comment twice and neither is showing. Funny that..
"Gender identity" does not make a woman. Using word play and redefining words does not define another kind of woman into existence
Actually it does. Humans created the language and we can make changes to it as we see fit.
@@izoedyourbabydaddy7628NO IT DOESN'T!!!!! NO amount of words can create another woman, unless words can magically be put into the body and change Y chromosomes to X. Wordplay is exactly that, playing with words, NOT changing chromosomes!!! Please stop this insanity
@@izoedyourbabydaddy7628 that is postmodernist BS when people aren't happy with reality. That's like saying the Sun isn't the Sun because now it is a bus, or something. "Woman" is the label we put on the collective FACTS of reality, namely the female of the human species. We can test and demonstrate that a woman actually is a woman by all the biological, cellular, anatomical, DNA, and reproductive markers.
I could define Gandalf into existence, or even a closet monster... makes neither real!
@@izoedyourbabydaddy7628 you can change words, but the MOMENT the rights - or perceived or imagined rights - of some hits beyond the nose of others, then that is immediately a problem. I wouldn't start going down the fallacious and irrational postmodernist routes: I am very well read up on the nonsense from the likes of Derrada and Foucault and others. Do words insert womb, fallopian tubes, vulva, functioning mammary glands, a pelvis with birthing canal, XX chromosomes into ever cell of the body, as if by magic? If I change the words to redefine me as YOUR mother or father, suddenly, does that actually make me your mother or father?
@@No1.SPEAKINGTHETRUTH Yes we can change the language as we see fit. The definition of woman doesn't mention chromosomes so you are actually talking about the word female.
Julia can you give Tommy a mention now that he has been proven correct.
I'm afraid it's biological women who are being polite and pathetic in relation to gender ideology .Men don't feel obliged to say anything that is not strict reality .Hope speaking the truth Julia .Listening to you always makes my day .
Well done Julia.
We must not forget that Tatchell , in the 60s campaigned to have the age of consent lowered to 12...
Hes a bandit for sure
😲
Like labour who wanted it down to 14, only a few years ago.
Exactly what I was thinking - implying concern about transgender people (??!) when there was opinion that he had/has a prior/present (believed) perception of children as a utility provision for others - is beyond comprehension.
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Just campaigned or practiced it? Either way he is disgusting.
As a woman who suffered SA and was infected with HIV, things do "boil down to genitals" with men and women. I could not be more offended by this debate.
My God... these entitled, fragile victims... taking offense at any opportunity. It is complete madness.
Sunak meant no malice and what has it to do with the mother, no demonisation, Peter is the problem with our society, well said Julia
The family of the trans girl are chasing clout
@@catcoffee7958 The family of the boy are chasing clout
it's the timing he should not have said that there and then save it for another day please use your common sense as for this julia thingy she;s just a mouth piece for money
No it's not. It's grifters like Julia Hate Filled Brewer and her boss Rupert Murdoch who sit in their ivory towers and fabricate current affairs to divide society.
@@philipbirchall54Rubbish…it was PMQ’s….a time for politics and political questions. If they (the boys parents) didn’t want to hear something that might hurt their feelings…don’t turn up at a place where that might occur!
Stammer is the villain in this. Total deflection so he doesn't have to answer the question. And using a dead child to do it, disgusting
What the hell has happened to the world over the past 4 years 🤔craziness on every turn and level. The mind boggles!
He is so weird. To actually belive there are two types of women...
He’s clearly off his head, I would check his hardrive
so the two types of women are female and male?
@@whitehorses460 that appears to be what he thinks HAHAHA
So JK Rowling doesnt have the right to express her opinions on trans issues?
Good point
Only the left are allowed to have an opinions.
Not where Thatchel is involved.
People like Tatchell think they are the arbiters in everything! I ask myself, why does he think he is qualified to speak on trans issues? He’s not trans, he’s not a woman and it doesn’t affect any aspect of his life! He just needs to stay relevant I suppose!
@@helenandsophie100He also is not a parent, unlike jk Rowling for example. She understands about children and parental responsibilities - he by definition does not...
Yet he Carry's himself as some virtuous authority.
If a man in a dress was to attack me as a biological women.would the court charge him as a women or a man.????? Scary TIMES
Legally, it's irrelevant. A legal personality is a thing. It's devoid of life. That's how basic it is.
More importantly do you slap or punch him? Confusing
@@joelsmith1866 read what I said
@@MHLivestreams not in my world 😁
@@nicola7917 i personally just ignore them whenever possible. All of them, the legal system, and the genderfabulouslyconfused people.
I'm American and I've seen Peter T on other interviews. He likes to come off as cool and collected, but how dare he continually reprimand Julia and even at the end, he purposely was overtalking Julia and attempting to end the interview himself by having the last word, as if HE was the interviewer.... On HER SHOW.
What a supercilious jerk.
He is just a robot..repating ..
No matter what label you want to put on it,a bloke in a dress is a bloke in a dress,and will always be a bloke in a dress.
Why are you so interested as to why someone wears a dress'?
@@mikeclifford7740
I don't recall expressing an interest.
Don't project your fantasies onto me!
Someone said , you can put lipstick on a pig , but it's still a pig.
You can paint an apple with orange paint, it’s still an apple. You can paint a horse black and white to look like a zebra, it’s still a horse.
David a glittering career in the Diplomatic Corps awaits.....
"Human rights activist" Peter T is not
True,, women are not included in his human right fight
@@catcoffee7958 No, nor gays, lesbians, or children!
@@Ciara-ASMR Children are very much in his mind...
@@LondonSteveLeebecausd he is nnce
It's disgusting what's happening to real woman's rights now days. We have gone backwards as a society.
Sunak was not aware her mother was in the chamber and Starmer again showed his disgusting side. Plays the honourable, upstanding gut when he is a snake.
It’s time we stopped even debating this nonsense with people like this man and ignore them.
I don't see a problem with what Sunak said, but it's a reason to bring out Tatchell for another payday, with his little badges on.
brings up a good point...how much are these people making every time they have an appearance on a talk/news show? We shouldn't be giving them a platform...
I saw Starmer as the problem weaponising a tragedy.
@@mcscas68absolutely 💯
I really don't understand why tv channels still give tatchell airtime!
Identity doesnt determine sex.
5ex doesn't determine identity.
Something very dark is happening here with his language. He is trying to soften an extreme stance, so that is becomes more palatable. This will happen more and more as they see that their extreme message isn't working with most people. We must continue to hold the line 100% on what is reality.
Probably the only time Sunak has ever shown he has a spine, in refusing to apologise. There is nothing to apologise for. Hopefully he won't give in.
The fella's a creep.
9:17 knowing he’s stretching logic and losing the argument, Peter moves up a gear to make it very personal as he knows Julia has daughters. Despicable! Hands down Julia won the debate with biological science, logic and common decency.
I don’t know why that guy shows up knowing he’s going to be a fish flopping around out of water.
Tatchell chats a load of nonsense
Julia is correct, Tatchell and Starmer are so predictable, jumping on the offence wagon over everything
Vote Tory in the next general election
Yea because it was a disgusting comment
No. Vote Reform. The Tories are as bad as Lanour@@user-fg5fh9ps5u
WELL DONE JULIA!
For Tatchell's information, a trans woman is a bloke wearing a dress, wig, and lippy, with facial stubble and still has his wedding tackle intact.
Comment of the week! No doubt youtube will remove it.
Back in the day, most people avoided them, as they've obviously got demons.
Thank you. At last, someone has pointed out the truth of this nonsense!
Don't forget his Adams apple
Hmm haaaaang on...I wonder is I can sell him some "trans" gold!
Julia what a perfect response, trans people can live how they want but don't force your opinion on me, my opinion is what I think, tatchell is a horrible thing!!
Her son was murdered not daughter.
Her daughter.
Her son!
@@izoedyourbabydaddy7628Why do you deny reality AND biology?
I bet you don't answer...🤣😂🤫
@@Paul-pf6rm I don't I just know the difference between gender and biology.
@@izoedyourbabydaddy7628 daughter refers to female offspring, son to male offspring. You don't know the difference to gender and biology, you just choose to go with someones fantasy/delusion.
Brilliant,Julia.
I think actually the labour leader attacked Sunak - he looked like the cat that got the cream when he realised what he could do with it. He was so excited that he could hardly get the words out.
Well done Julia. PM's jibe was against Starmer and his grovelling populism.
The state of that Tatchell character. All those different badges on his jacket for the latest virture signalling event of the day. This is what being on the wrong side of history looks like!
If women don't want to share the dressing room with trans thats the end of the matter.
If woman don't want to share the dressing room with transwoman they can always use their dressing room at home.
A man
Tatchell is sickening, I find it hard to listen to the rubbish he comes out with. Julia is absolutely spot on.
Keir is disgusting
Why are she even in the chamber whether her child died or not it makes no sense 🤦♂️
Correct. There seems to have been no other reason than to enable Starmer to mention it. Almost as if this was orchestrated by Labour
Sunak said nothing wrong.
Did he say anything right. He never does anything for British people.
Tatchell is a grifter
Yes, and people seem to forget that he advocated the age of consent should be lowered to 12. Now what does that make him, I wonder?
Kieran Starmer hiding behind the skirt of a grieving mum? Some leader he is.
Her family are clout chaser,,, the father is all over the news
Hiding? Brianna's father wants an apology
He will never get my vote, Go Party Of Women KJK is amazing. Tell it like it is Julia.Tachel is a creep that hates women.
Facts do not change based on the presence of who is there. Trans woman can be trans woman, but they cannot a woman. Just like I can be a man, I could be a trans woman, but I could never be a woman. Its not hateful, its just reality.
Evil deceptacon. Robots in disguise, huh.
Evil deceptacon. Robots in disguise, huh.
@@Adulthumanfemale84 Go tell that to a grieving family.
@@MrThecarebearA grieving family does NOT change the truth. Fact.
A male cannot be a female. Fact.
Get an education, climb out of your fantasy world and you will understand. Fact.
@@MrThecarebear
Humans in general don't always like the truth. It was tragic what took place, but it's a lie to say this was a girl
He never deamoised anyone only starmer for all his U turns. The left making a storm out of a rain drop as usual.
No apology . Prime minister !
Starmer weaponised that the W⚓️
Have you seen your face pic lol
@@joseph9074 have you seen yours 😉
Sunak was talking about Starmer been unable to biologically say what a woman is. He wasn't talking about trans people. No doubt Tatchell would think a conversation about astro physics was all about trans. The man is totally obsessed.
Well said Julia, exactly how I feel. These people make a lot of women (who were born female). very very uncomfortable. Why should we put up with this nonsense, in women spaces.
No need for an apology for speaking the god damm truth
Transwoman -woman identified as male at birth
It’s got absolutely nowt to with the horrible murder, it’s starmer politising the situation which is worse in my view
Why do you think 2 kids hated trans people so much that they want to kill them? What do you think implanted that in their minds?
Well said Julia, congratulations.
If the grieving mother enters politics she shouldn't be surprised if she gets caught up in it.
She is being unsuspectingly used!...like steven lawrence's mother! Was used a political puppet!...and she thought she did that all by herself!...🙄
Well said Julia.
Tatchell made a prat of himself earlier on G.B news!
When Lee rigby died only son of
his mother
She was not given a change in the law!!
I feel like the more people who “fight for trans rights” the more friction there is, I have never had a single issue with any actual trans person, but I do take accepting to being told how I can address/view someone. If a man chooses to dress as a woman and live like a woman and call themselves a woman that’s their entitlement but it doesn’t change that it was still born a man that transitioned to be a woman, trying to tell me to forget that step and address them as a woman is ridiculous. I would address someone as what they asked but I don’t participate in their fantasy.
He's probably one of the gays for Gaza types too.
Gays for Gaza?
All these badges and flags, eh. Combined, they are 'blags' . Makes sense.
Julia yourself and Douglas Murray are a breath of fresh air to me please keep up the good work don’t take crap of the woke and idiotic people 👍👏👏
Why was she there anyway, ffs
Starmer is the one who needs to make an apology for trying to score political points with his redirection of a comment from a generalisation to a specific individual.
With his debased attitude towards the people of the UK, he should be barred from his office as leader of the Labour, it's just a pity the speaker didn't chastise starmer at the time, starmer is just the most disgraceful 'human being' on this planet.
Vote Tory in the next general election
He is perfect the pm
So how do you explain that Brianna's father wants Mr Sunak to apologise?
@@juliegregory3900 because he has been misled as to what was actually said by people like starmer redirecting someone else's words to suit his own agenda and gain political points
@@user-fg5fh9ps5u yes let's vote tory! It's been such a resounding success these past 14 years user. Let's see what they've achieved.
A billionaire was created every other day even during the pandemic and people with million pound pension pots were given tax breaks. Sales of private jets and super yachts are at an all time high. They crashed the economy to the tune of £30 billion; *Ms Truss's MINI budget ( good job wasn't a major budget!) causing a run on the pound and interest on mortgages and pension funds. Good old Bank of England to the rescue. Our public services are in a dire state because they ALWAYS strip money from them.
Meanwhile working people have the highest tax burden in 70 years and we have more foodbanks than Macdonalds and cases of malnutrition and rickets are rising... yes life's peachy under the tories! Check out Britannia Unchained written by Truss Kwarteng Raab and Patel etc where they say British workers are the worst idlers in the world and other derogatory things. That's what they really think of you.....
Well done Julia, for putting these crazy people in their place.
If there was a freak show Peter T would be ringmaster.
Peter has lost yet another plot.
Rishi did not dehumanise anyone. Kier Starmer has.
First it was a debate then it's an interview. What was it Peter?
Yes, lost more plots than Gaza
He’s always plotting so there will be others.
Keirs made it about briannas mum not rishi. It was a deflection technique.
I love watching Julia dishing out facts and common sense.
Did Peter Tatchell get dressed in the dark this morning?
😂😂😂
He's wearing a standard council/dhss employee, teacher type clothing, where all strange people with these opinions are usually found.
Maybe the light bulb in his room identified as being switched on
Labour leader is so woke. I will NEVER vote for him. Watch the country going to pot even more it Labour should ever get voted in
Totally agree !!!
Vote Reform.
Spot on as always Julia
Well said Julia!
you can see the type of person he is by all his ickle badges of honour haha
Yea...ha..ha. So true. This bloke is now on a downward slope even more so with his pathetic badges.
We'll surely see him being first to join the military, and fight Russia for the Ukrainians he allegedly stands with.
He’s a tawdry little guy.😡
Oh yes, he's got medals perhaps he should flaunt them in front of Putin, fingers crossed on that front, 😂
He’s also just an arse.
He certainly talks out of it.
Spot on, as usual, Julia. Don’t stop what you are doing.👍
Well done 👍 put him in the correct place. One woman standing up for herself and for all women 👍👏👏
When you hear someone is a human rights activist, be on your guard..
Julia, you are a STAR
Well done Julia. This whole conversation makes me laugh. It’s like a sitcom. I think that’s the only way to deal with this lunacy. Just laugh!😂😂
He just got ferkin owned ! What a melt !
women are defined by chromosomes and biologocal sex, when he says "in my view..." thats exactly the problem , all this crap is in these peoples views, not fact.
Transwoman -woman identified as male at birth.
That's in the dictionary.
Can't believe you have to even state this on live tv in 2024 but here we are insanity reigns supreme
Why was the mother in parliament with her local labour mp anyway,very suspicious this lady is everywhere at the moment
Wonderful debate Julia.... the delightful way you made it extremely clear and factual.
why give him time of day
I`ve always admired Tatchell ....in the past he has been very brave like going to Russia to fight for gay rights.
Unfortunately as the LGBTQI movement grows and adds more initials to its name he often finds himself defending the indefensible .
On this occasion as Julia says .....Sunak had nothing to apologise for.
He gets more and more radical. What a pity. He is losing his common sense.
It’s all well and good fighting for gay rights to fairness and equality, but when he started calling for the age of consent to lowered, I.e. a 12 year old can legally consent to sex with a 40 year old….no sorry, that’s just trying to advocate and normalise paedophila and child abuse.
Couldn't agree more.
@@MrNCurley utter twaddle why don't you fact check? Unacceptable to malign his character. Mr T has always stated paedophilia is abhorrent. He's helped victims of child abuse. Shame on you.
Why doesn’t he speak out about the transing of gay men/boys then? He is no supporter of gay rights. He has his own agenda.