Can the Toro Power Max HD 928 OAE Snow Blower handle deep snow?
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2019
- Is the Toro PowerMax HD 928 OAE the best snow blower for you? Welcome to the channel! I finally have over 22 inches of snow to work with! This video goes into full detail on how the 928 handles deep snow, heavy snow, wet snow and your snow plow drift across your driveway. The video also shows how the automatic steering acts on a side-hill and if this Toro 928 OAE can clear steep slopes.
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I have been shoveling for 27 years. I have watched hours of you blowing snow. You have an excellent review tactic. Unbiased, fair, honest. It is because of you and this video I am actually picking up a
2019 power max HD 928 tomorrow morning. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
Thanks Paul! I'm sold on this model and will be picking one up in the next 2-3 weeks. Love the intro and outro music!
My old Murray just went after 20 years. I’m in need of a new snowblower. This has to be the best one I’ve seen. I’m hooked and this will be the one I’m going to get. Thank you Paul.
I just got mine today. Love it. Need to get used to the controls being reversed from my previous Craftsman. So far love throwing distance, solid tank feeling, manoeuvrability for the size and weight. Looking forward for a good wet snow for ultimate test!
Your reviews are very good and helpful, keep up the good vids.
Great review, Paul. I live in Virginia and for the last 3 years we have not had a significant snowfall for me to take out my Ariens 24" EFI. Still waiting patiently though. This Toro really looks impressive.
Great vid Paul, wish we got that snow winter has been nearly non existent this year in the NY Metro burbs. That Toro can throw!
Excellent video Paul. Toro has made great strides to the Power Max line. About the only feature I'd like Toro to add to this model is handwarmers, or at least a handwarmer accessory option. Keep up the great work!
After watching this video the one thing I was very impressed with is by how powerful this toro powermax HD Snowblower can handle 2 feet of snow with no issues at all.
Well Paul, that says it all for me. If after all the different makes and models of blowers you review, you chose to buy this Toro PowerMax HD 928 OAE, well, enough said. Great video.
Thanks to your videos Paul I recently bought a toro 928. It's amazing and so well built! Change it from mtd 2008 i owned. It was total garbage. Keep up the good work👍
I grew up right near Windom MN, where most Toro's are manufactured. So I obviously have a slight bias towards Toro, but I can honestly say, I have had nothing but good luck with them. I have a 35 year old Toro commercial trimmer that my dad actually dug out of the trash, and a 2004 22" recycler mower. Both still run great with no major repairs other than I had to replace a wheel cover on the mower.
Great job, Paul! It's an awesome machine!
Wow… that is impressive
Thanks for sharing
I’ll definitely keep this in mind when i buy the next one.
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I bought this machine after asking your advice. It was super easy to assemble looks great I even bought and installed drift cutters. Unfortunately or fortunately it’s only snowed once and not even enough to shovel. At least I got to wax it and spray everything with silicone so the dust doesn’t stick to it. 😁 My neighbors are all thanking me for buying it, they think it will keep the snow away. Lol Thanks again Paul for your help and advice.
You are very welcome! I felt the same way. I bought this one myself and the first "real" snow didn't come until Feb 1st - but now I have over 30 inches! At least you are keeping it dusted:)
The Toro HD lineup is more than likely the best all-around two stage snow blower on the market regardless of the cost. The patented no clog impeller system and the quick stick shoot control and all-around balance and performance of the Toro HD lineup is hard to beat. Until Toro's patent expires, everyone else is trying to compensate with bigger power plants. When the patent expires you can bet Ariens and everyone else will implement the same design into their machines.
Both Toro And Ariens are designed to throw excess snow back out the front of the machine so you can keep your impeller at a higher RPM to throw the snow farther.
The Toro spells out that system called the ACS. Any excess snow goes into that hump and then straight out the front in front of the auger. If you watch the front end of the Toro in 10 inches or more of snow you can see it throwing it down and out the front.
With the Ariens system any excess snow also gets throw out the front. The impeller throws that snow out the front - to the left. That's why if you watch an Ariens in 10 inches or more you will see snow shooting straight out the left front.
If you watch both systems work on the commercial snowblowers the Ariens will throw a little more snow than the Toro, but the Toro will throw it farther.
Both systems are the best in the industry.
I am interested in the Toro 1428 TRX HD , You test last winter with the Big blowers was very well done, Now with 4 manufactures with Big power and tracks has my interest. Had a track Craftsman for 18 years and used a JD track for 8 years at work. Thanks for the great reviews your very honest with your tests and reviews.. My toy for last few years 1128 PowerMax HD Toro.
I have the Toro 1428 TRX HD here and I'm hoping to do the walk-around review in the next two weeks :)
Got to use my Toro Power Max HD 1232 last winter for the first time. Had a storm that left 6 inches of extremely wet heavy snow. The wettest snow I have ever delt with. I have never seen snow pack on the tires so badly. As far as the performance of the Toro to deal with that wet stuff I have to say I was very impressed. Threw it well over 50 feet and never even hinted of clogging. I was not expecting that kind of throwing ability with such wet heavy snow. The Toro Power Max HD engines are easy to start and have plenty of power and torque and are relatively quiet even at full throttle. I used silicone spray on every moving part of the machine and never had any freezing issues with any of the controls. Lost some tree branches due to the extremely wet heavy snow. Hope we don't have any snow like that this winter. The single stage I use to blow off my back deck did a great job, but the wet snow stuck to the wheels and made them useless. I highly recommend any of the Toro Power Max HD snow blower machines. I believe auto steer is used on the HD 1028, 1030 and under. Let's see what Mother Nature has in store for us this winter. Happy snow blowing everyone.
I'm glad you like it! Yes, The Toro Power Max HD are one of the few snowblowers that can handle any type of snow. I have a video where I use a PowerTRX in the same type of snow you got and it blew it 60 feet. ruclips.net/video/vKeephvHNSg/видео.html
That Toro is a very nice machine! That’s my next one!
Hej Paul
Thanks for your review .
I bought a toro power max HD 928 oae
If you buy one, then it can,,t be bad .
Have seen many of your reviews .
Just no snow yet in Stockholm Sweden
I actually chose the Ariens Rapid Track based on your reviews of the ability to “move” snow. I don’t need it to throw snow as far, I need productivity. That’s Ariens Rapid Track SHO. I’ve had Toro’s clog at a way slower pace than Ariens. Marketing hype IMO. Just reiterating.
Just got this machine,,only used a little but it’s a beast compared to my 26” Sears. I installed factory Toro hand warmers,wire harness switch and all.Fit perfect ,work fine.Grip parts #127-5951,wire harness#138-3644,and switch #122-1124.Ordered right from Toro dealer I got machine from. Measured amps and voltage at full throttle,3 amps @ 14 volts. Warmers got to about 110 degrees.I put some spray foam inside handlebars to help keep the heat in the grips. Really odd that this machine doesn’t come with hand warmers,it has the exact same stator as the 1028 that is identical as far as electrical system is concerned.All the parts were around $100.
Thank you, that is good to know. Maybe some of these come with a different stator? It doesn't make sense to me either that Toro wouldn't even offer handwarmers as an accessory on a premium machine like this.
Excellent video Paul. I purchased the Toro 1028HD OXHE in December and boy does that thing throw snow and is so easy to use. It a pleasure to use compared to the Husqvarna I had To bad you can’t show how it performs in wet snow and slush. I think you’d be pleasantly surprised and it does NOT clog.
Oh I'll get plenty later this spring. That snow by the mailbox is all salt and snow plow snow. I live on an ambulance route so that snow is always a problem for most snow throwers to throw.
So funny, at 2:38 your neighbor complained that your Toro was blowing snow some fifty feet and onto his driveway and at 7:20 you went right back and did again. LOL At 12:30 Mike wishes he had your Toro. LOL again. Ah 16:24 the look of accomplishment. Coffee time, thank you for the video. And I agree the Toro is a no brainer.
I'm impressed that Toro moved up to the twin hinged deflector. That's an attention to detail that isn't common. I'm still an Ariens fanboy, but Toro is a good brand. In the past they've had some interesting, if maybe not the best, ideas that they've tried out over the years. Their old metering augers and the plastic "anti-plug" chute come to mind.
Toro still has the ACS (anti-clog system but they changed it to metal with this version)
How good are the new Toro HD models? This video shows how well they work in deep wet snow. I nearly bought an Ariens but after all the research and owner views I read, Toro HD machines were all in all the best movers of snow in all conditions. I ended up with a Toro Power Max HD 1232. Don't get me wrong, Ariens are great snow blowers, but Toro's patented anti clog impeller system really works well especially in wet conditions. Another situation the Toro HD machines do well, is they don't ride up on the snow even in deep wet stuff. Enjoy the video. Action speaks louder than words. ruclips.net/video/R_pANI8mvjA/видео.html
Yes, Toro's ACS is arguably the best on the market. That said.
Ariens Deluxe, Platinum and Pro units also won't ride up. The only time they will is if you have a broken shear pin.
Ariens also off-loads the snow so the impeller can keep a higher rpm and throw the snow well - they just do it differently.
I explain how each system works side-by-side in this video: ruclips.net/video/KxXuNZWDLYg/видео.html
Nothing that I have tryed beats a toro at least for the $ amount, I have a 97 824 xl power throw and have used it about 30-40 hrs in the last couple weeks, thing is a beast love clears that heavy road sludge like butter it eats anything for lunch haha
I’m actually doing a comparison and Ariens is cheaper than Toro, there are some differences though. If you have a 14” auger and impeller like on the Ariens Deluxe that would match the Toro 928. Deluxe 28 is also lighter but a couple things to like on the 928 is the 265cc engine made be Loncin (it’s a newer design than other Toro engines) which is bigger than the 254cc on the Deluxe 24 and 28.
I would give the engine on the Deluxe 30 the edge though, LED lighting is a nice feature on the Toro as well. For reliability I like the cast iron gear case on the Ariens. Once you get to a 14” auger and impeller that’s really commercial-grade so they can handle those stuff that the plow hits you with after a major snowfall, that can be brutal to handle with a shovel and most snowblowers struggle with it. If you can get that done quicker I think that’s wort the extra $$ compared to an 11” auger / impeller
Thumbs up, one video was a guy talking about it in his garage.
I guess you finally got some snow Paul. I’m still waiting for a real storm to test out my toro 1432.
How is the 1432? Anything surprise you, disappoint you, impress you?
Paul, thank you for the detailed review. I’m torn between the 928 and 1028 powermax. Just sold my Ariens deluxe 28 SHO. It looks like the 1028 engine compares closer to the Ariens I just got rid of but it also Looks like the 928 barely boggs down in 12+ inches. Darn nice machine.
Why did you get rid of the Ariens SHO?
Watch this video and see how impressive the Toro HD machines are. Enjoy. ruclips.net/video/R_pANI8mvjA/видео.html
I got one and it worked really well for about an hour. Now it clogs even with a couple inches of snow.
Check the impeller belt tension. Also check the bolt that holds the front auger to the shaft. Watch this video to see how to inspect both: ruclips.net/video/rNQTCDxhU54/видео.html
What a gorgeous place to live, I'm jealous
It was!
Piece of cake😊
@13:05 blowing snow onto barn roof,impressive !!
It's actually going OVER the roof! :)
Hi Paul, I found your channel after trying to decide what blower to buy. I still have my parents eight horse 24 inch Toro that they got when I was about 15 and I am 42 now. I find it a bit small and thought the new nine horse that you reviewed in this video would be good to have at our place as we have 180 foot laneway up here in Ontario Canada. Thanks for all your information.
It seems the new Toro machines pulverize the snow more than the old Toros or other manufactures. Even in the wet snow by the road, the discharge seems to be very airy. I thought my 828 Powershift threw good, but there is no comparison to the newer Toros.
Gotta believe you live somewhere around Buffalo!
Your video looked like one of those snow blowers on the front of a train. You were blowing it into the next county. lol. 👍
This video was taken in Chippewa Falls, WI
Still running my stx36 Arians 26 years old still going strong can't beat a ohv Tecumseh
I agree I have a 1974 JD 826 with the same motor. 45 years old and still going strong!!
Just picked up a power max HD 1432! Can’t wait to try it out! I can put the snow on my neighbors roof across the street? Lol.
Just kidding.
😀
Just found your channel and love your content. Have you reviewed the Ariens Deluxe 28?
Yes, but it has been a while: ruclips.net/video/x6SV5ZMsgeY/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/JUFuBpJOCe4/видео.html
I'm impressed with how far that throws and how well it goes through everything. It was almost comical how much farther it was throwing snow compared to your neighbor. In fact, maybe a bit too far for me honestly. I'd probably have a tough time keeping it out of the neighbor's driveways this year when I need some height to get it over the banks.
Edit: It appears that Toro still makes the HD line in the US.
Hi plm93, Only a few of the economy snow blowers are made in Mexico. The Power Max HD series including this 928 are made just south of Minneapolis.
I didn't show enough of how the double jointed chute will let it throw snow right next to the snow blower, over 50 feet or any distance in between.
@@PaulSikkema That's interesting, I had read somewhere all their snowblower manufacturing moved to Mexico. Could you say where you got that from? I don't mean that as an insult because you are a credible guy, I'm just curious.
And yeah I think you demonstrated the articulation pretty well by the mailbox and on your other video. Trouble is by this time of year I have to shoot up a bit to get over the berms which are taller than the blower, so I'm afraid these new blowers would shoot them right over the berms and into my neighbor's driveways. I was thinking of going with an Ariens Deluxe for a similar reason, the manual rotation crank has more precise aim.
In any case, thanks for putting out these videos, you continue to be the most comprehensive source of snowblower information out there. By a long shot. These machines last so dang long it really makes it a tough decision. My Ariens is on its 18th season and even then I don't really need to replace it, I'd just like something a bit easier for the kids to handle now that they are at an age where they can help. And something with handwarmers. It seems Toro doesn't offer them as an accessory on this one which is puzzling.
I got my information from a dealer that sells over 400 a year. Since these snow blowers are new he double-checked with his territory manager. Also the shipping crates will tell you where they are assembled. (origin of product)
Not a fan of getting my glove caught....it does....in the toro shoot control but its secured better and has more adjustment. My new ariens pro only shoots straight across where the toro can aim downward. Also the ariens pops out once in a while whereas the toro stays in place....maybe the ariens lever needs tightening. Idk.
I'd like to see the snowmaster out here!
The snow is too deep and too heavy for the SnowMaster. The intake height is 18 inches (there is 21 inches) and even trying to clear a half-pass the SnowMaster is too light and would not have the traction to push through the snow. If you knew you were getting this amount of snow you would have to go out in the storm and clear 8-10 inches at a time for the SnowMaster to work.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAA @12.29
your detail on the review.....first class SIR.
Glad you liked it
Great video and your reviews are extremely helpful for those looking to purchase a new snowblower. If you were to spend ~$1500 on a new machine, would you choose the Toro 928 OAE or the Ariens Deluxe 30?
Personally, I can't decide if I would pick the Toro 928 OAE or the Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO. Why? Because both are great snow blowers and both will fit through the side door on my garage. (I have a 32 inch side door) I can't get the 30 into my backyard without going around the outside of the house...if I could use the 30 - it would be the 30 EFI. The 30 EFI really punches above it's weight...
Your neighbor seems like a patient person. His blower was directing the snow where he wanted it to go... but yours was so high, it would go wherever the wind wanted it to go.
Yes, He is patient when I'm filming these videos. I throw it high because most viewers want to see how far it throws. The Toro Power Max HD does have a double jointed chute so you can throw it 50 feet or right next to the snow blower. Watch the section where I'm working around the mailbox to see it throwing snow close to the machine.
Your throwing distance has alot to do with your impeller tolerance with the housing not just hp, in my experience! That toro got her done for sure!!!
With a paddle style impeller I agree. This Toro has cups instead of paddles and as you can see it does make a difference.
Many people like to show how far their snow blower can throw snow . Unless you have the room to throw the snow 50ft than distance is useless . Most peoples lawns aren't that big . Throwing snow maybe 15 or 20 ft is good enough at times . I just bought a new Toro blower this year . I love it but I have no need to throw the snow 50ft . Sometimes blowing the snow that far has the wind blowing it back in your face . You are right in saying a big 30in snow blower can be a pain to handle at times . I don't use my 30in Craftsman unless I really have to .
That is one thing I like about the new double-jointed chute on the Toro Power Max HD Series. The snow blower can throw the snow right next to the snow blower if needed.
Wow, what a strong machine (great test with 22 inches) I am not a technical giant. which is more "better" the OAE or OHXE engine? looking at getting a toro 928 ohxe. Love the quick stick for my carpal arm issues.
OHXE is last years model. The OAE has the same engine, new metal chute, better chute control, new LED headlamp and has the automatic steering that I like better than the trigger steer on the older OHXE
OHXE is last years model. The OAE has the same engine, new metal chute, better chute control, new LED headlamp and has the automatic steering that I like better than the trigger steer on the older OHXE
OHXE is last years model. The OAE has the same engine, new metal chute, better chute control, new LED headlamp and has the automatic steering that I like better than the trigger steer on the older OHXE
Toro should pay you Paul! I think you probably sold this unit more than anybody! Thank you
If they paid me then someone else would claim I'm biased. My goal is to help you find the best snowblower for you - not to tell you which one I think is the best. I'll make the videos - so you can decide.
Hi if had to choose between a Toro HD 928 OAE and a Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO Which would you go with. I am thinking about a new Machine and these are the two that i am leaning towards.
I have no preference. I suggest going to a dealer and trying the chute controls - that's the only real difference between the two. Capacity-wise, dependability, and performance they are the same otherwise. The question really boils down to would you rather have red or orange sitting in your garage for the next 20 years?
Hey Paul it’s me again is there a justified difference between the 928oae and the 1030 in power I know the engine says it’s bigger but if you’ve used the 1030 do you feel and see it as well I know about the hand warmers and the bucket size I personally want it the 1030 for the hand warmers and power is it worth the jump
The 28 inch 928 will move a certain amount of snow because of the engine size. To move the same amount of snow through the wider 30 inch 1030 it needs a larger engine.
In other words - if you are clearing 10 inches of snow with the 928 at 2 mph you would be able to clear the same 10 inches at 2 mph with the 1030 but you would get done faster because the snowblower is wider.
Hey Paul what about the simplicity pros? I own to simplicity pros 2132s and I love them they never let me down. Just wondering if you have a tested them out, they both have Briggs & Stratton 420 cc engines
The biggest reasons I'm not reviewing Simplicity are: 1. B&S who owns the name filed for bankruptcy this year and we don’t know if the snowblower division is going to survive. 2. Simplicity has lost a lot of dealers so it’s harder to find a dealer to work on one. 3. The design really hasn’t changed since the 90’s. and everyone else has made major improvements to their Pro snowblower's capacity and handling heavy/wet snow
It was a great snowblower and still is built well but the rest have surpassed it for the price.
@@PaulSikkema Thanks Paul and keep the videos coming I love them
Used mine for the first time 2 weeks ago and loved the power and throwing distance. Did you have any issues with the chute not locking in position? Have to jiggle the joystck sometimes to get the teeth to lock in together.
No I haven't. I suggest talking to your local dealer. There may be an adjustment you can make.
Used it again this morning and chute issue persists. Cannot get chute/deflector to lock in at any position when engaging lock on joystick. It only works at certain positions. I watched you work yours and it appears as soon as you let go of stick it stays put at that position.
James S. Mine does the same as yours. You ever find a fix?
Talk to your dealer. He may have an easy way to adjust it or he may just replace control.
Paul how soon do you usually get snow as I need snow blower reviews to keep me in line for the winter, lawn mowers are kind of okay but love snow blowers. Hank in western Canada
Which new models are you looking at? Not a lot has changed this year so I can probably help.
Would love to see the new toro trx snowblower reviewed. I see toro has a 1030 instead of 1028 for this year as well.
Can you do a video on the inside gear functions of the Troy-Bilt 2860? Thanx
Yes, I'll be glad to put it on the list. I have about 6 videos ahead of your request - more if I get snow in the next month.
Paul Sikkema thank you
Here is the video looking at the inside of the transmission on the 2860: ruclips.net/video/C53RSZatG6g/видео.html
How about a review of the toro1030 power max hd. . I just picked one up and wanted to see others thoughts on it.
The 1030 will perform exactly like the 928 and with the extra width will get your driveway done about 5% faster. The only real difference is it has hand warmers!
@@PaulSikkema thanks for the insight. I do like the hand warmers. Not much snow in northern mn yet. Can't wait to really use it.
So throttle is is about open to about 60 percent, We got some snow yesterday night, machine throw's snow about 45-50 feet, I think your right, it must be about motor efficiency?
so far I have not seen the motor have issues seems to have full power, did your machine you tested, was the throttle open completely?
If you are looking at the slot the on the engine housing the slot is bigger than the throttle throw. All the Tor's I have here are that way. The engine rpms is about the same for all the Toros and the other brands I'm using. The 828, 928 and 1428 all have plenty of power and throw the snow a long way.
Hi Paul, great reviews! I’m torn between the 928 and 1028. Correct me if I’m wrong but the difference between the two is just the power steering and a slightly bigger motor. Do you think it’s worth it for the 1028? Or does the 928 do just as nice of a job throwing the snow? Any input is much appreciated!
Yes, the only difference is the steering. The difference in the 1 HP is not noticeable.
Personally, I like the automatic steering on the 928. The are no extra levers to remember to pull to turn it. You can turn against a house or fence and not have to figure out how to hang on to the drive levers and also pull the trigger to steer.
That’s what I am looking for! I bought a Honda 928 track unit last year and hated it and sold it because it was awful to maneuver, it threw snow like no other but otherwise I could do my 500 foot driveway quicker with my 24 mtd because I have a huge parking area in the middle of my drive that I have to do a lot of turning. The 928 sound like exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks for your help. I appreciate it!
Paul, I'm very impressed by the performance of this machine in deep snow. I'm debating between this machine and the Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO. Which of the two do you feel is the better machine for the money?
Do you like Orange or Red better? The Deluxe 28 SHO's chute controls are two levers instead of the single joystick on the Toro. Otherwise the two snow blowers are both very capable machines and you will be happy with either one. In fact, they are so close that I'd make my decision on which dealer I like the best.
Yes, A good dealer you can trust goes a long, long way to liking your gas powered equipment. I don't know why some dealers assume the snowblower is ready to go right out of the shipping crate. I recently made a video using a snow blower with the automatic steering and it goes through the same steps you performed. ruclips.net/video/nkjL84P_EuU/видео.html
Paul, having the advantage of using all the units you've mentioned in the video, for you . .which do.you.own?
My answer is complicated because I have purchased a few popular models from brands just to test. So I own a Toro Power Max HD 928, Toro SnowMaster 824, Toro 60 volt, Snow Joe 100 volt and a Ryobi 40 volt. That said,
I clear snow from concrete, blacktop, an old paver patio, gravel, dirt and turf. So if I had to go out and buy my own right now I would buy the Toro 60 volt for light snow on my concrete driveway and patio but I also need a 2-stage for the rest.
I can't decide if I would buy the Toro 928 or Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO for the rest that I have to clear. I like them both a lot.
If I could only buy one machine and cost was no object I would buy the Ariens Platinum 28 RapidTrak in an instant.
Nice I appreciate the reply !
Im in i.n. like the videos. .i got a huqsvarna 1827 tracks ........2013 model ......hydro tranny....420cc snowking
Thou shall not blow snow on thy neighbors driveway haha. Do you recommend the new power max Hd series over the Honda HS928/1332? I live in the Northeast. Get a lot of wet snow. Have seen the videos of Honda’s clogging up.
Yes, I highly recommend the Toro Power Max HD and the Ariens Platinum/Pro models for heavy/wet snow. They don't clog - ever - they throw snow farther and have 25-30% more capacity than the Hondas. If you are also looking at the Honda machines don't be afraid the spend (a little less) and get the Toro Power Max HD 1428. Home Depot Link: homedepot.sjv.io/j2JDn. It's one of the very best snow blowers for the type of snow you get.
HI Paul- Would this unit be your recommendation for wet snow?
Yes, Watch this video: ruclips.net/video/ZCl00tIBitQ/видео.html
The snow is so wet when you stomp in it - it splatters.
how come there is about 2 inches of snow left on the ground every after pass?
The area that I'm clearing here is bare ground and grass. Earlier snows have melted and then froze so there is a layer of hard, "crunchy" snow that I'm walking on. The skid shoes are set so there is 1/4 inch of clearance under the scraper bar. So, yes, I am leaving a little snow - but nowhere near 2 inches.
Hey Paul kind of new to snow blowing just bought us used to stage how high should I set the scraper blade above the pavement so that I don't wear out my augers and scraper blade I've seen some guys put it right down on the ground on to stages but I figured since I would be doing concrete I should raise it up some what do you place underneath the scraper blade to get the proper height thank you for your time Simon PS I bought a used Toro 521 seems to run fine
Single-stage snowthrowers like the Toro 521 are designed so the scraper and front auger touch the ground. They are designed to clean right down to the pavement and don't work very well if you try to raise the scraper or auger up so they don't touch. 1. the front auger touching the ground helps to pull it through the snow. 2. It also alllows the snow thrower to clear right down to the pavement.
3. The scraper bar is easily replaceable if it's worn or dented. The scraper is a cheap replacement part. 4. The auger paddles will wear out eventually, but are also inexpensive and not a big job to replace.
@@PaulSikkema hi Paul thank you for the response but my Toro 521 is a two stage it has a metal auger and a metal impeller I also own a Toro one stage with the rubber paddles that this is a two-stage that I'm talking about it seem like your 2-stage was running very close to the ground I was wondering how you keep from wearing out the steel auger when it said that low thank you for your help I appreciate it but the snow thrower in question is a two stage with metal auger and metal impeller.
I hate it when brands "recycle" model numbers. That said, I adjust the skid shoes so there is about a 1/8 to 1/4 inch gap under the scraper bar. I take a piece of cardboard or a piece of 1/4 inch plywood and place it under the scraper. Then I loosen the skid shoes and let them drop down to the floor. When I retighten them I make sure they stay flat and level to the floor. Your scraper and auger won't wear out then...
@@PaulSikkema thank you for your response I was shocked how well yours cleaned the pavement if your scraper and auger or not touching the pavement. So as long as my scraper is slightly lifted the auger won't touch either correct thanks again for your time. Do you think food spray like Pam also helps keep the auger clear and the impeller throat clear? I heard that the commercial spray is basically the same stuff. Subscribed and liked thanks Simon
I don't use sprays because I clear some areas that are gravel/sand. The sprays cause the sand to stick to the inside of the auger housing and makes it dirty.
Hey Paul what’s your thoughts onToro power max 826 AOE?
It's Toro's most popular 2-stage machine. It's a good snowblower and designed for a "normal" suburban home that gets "normal" snow. i.e., 2-car drive, up to 100 feet long, sidewalks and can go out on the turf to clear a path to your shed.
It only has an 11 inch impeller so it doesn't handle heavy/wet snow as well as the Toro 828 or the Ariens Deluxe models. The 828 and Ariens Deluxe have a 14 inch impeller so they will handle the heavy/wet snow and will throw it farther.
I have a Toro Power Max HD commercial 28 inch and the throttle is locked at around 60% by my dealer, he said that that is what Toro recommends, is that true?
I find it strange? he said that this is standard, I do not believe the dealer , and so far in Montreal, Canada this year we have yet to have snow to really see if I am using all the power.
I have the 28 inch with the 420 CC model.
what are your thoughts?
Thanks
I'm not aware of any suggestions like that. I would like to see that in writing.
My guess on his thinking is most engines are now running around 3000 rpm. That helps with emissions and noise.
Please explain letter designations in model name.
Don't know but I'll make a wild guess. O = overhead valve. H = handwarmers. A = automatic steering. X = trigger steering. E = electric start. R = recoil. Can't make a guess on the other letters they use.
Is the 1028 OHXE (38841) one of the newer models? Or is it only the 38802?
Hi Douglas, I mis-spoked in that reply and now corrected it. The 38841 is the newest model. The 3002 is last years model.
I purchased the 38841 model (1028HD) in December and can tell you that as far as the 928 (which is very impressive) the 38841model blows it even further. Also I used to have a husqvarna with a 414 engine which did not throw as far and used much more gas as this model. Hopefully Paul will have a chance to demonstrate it
Impressive. On a different matter, do you have any experience with synthetic fuel. You can buy it at several location including Home Depot. Is it worth looking into.
Michael from Canada
No, I don't have any experience with synthetic fuel. These snow blowers are designed to run on 87 Octane with no more than 10% ethanol. You can't use E15 or E85. I also highly recommend TruFuel or equivalent. That pure gas with no additives.
i use super grade gas from shell and briggs and stratton fuel treatment and stabilizer at a rate of 0.5 fl.oz per 7 liters of gas that i buy at my local snowblower dealer or ethanol formula k100 s+ that i buy from canadian tire ,1 fl.oz.per 7 liters of gas ,i have heard ethanol shield from home hard ware is good, do not use gas with more than 10 percent ethanol GARY from quebec,canada
@@oobydo1 I think you mean Shell 91 vPower Nitro, I’ll definitely be using that along with Sta-Bil… ethanol-free will be good for 6 months but Stabilizer is cheap and definitely worth it. These snowblowers have gas shut-off valves as well so you can run the carb dry as well
Paul my dad just bought this snowblower were having trouble starting it
1. Take the safety key out and the reinsert it.
2. Make sure the fuel shutoff valve is in the open position (the finger tab is horizontal) If it was off let it sit about 15 seconds for the gas to fill the carb.
3. Move the choke to close
4. Push the primer bulb 3-4 times. Use your finger and make sure the little hole in the center of the bulb is covered. A gloved hand doesn't always work.
5. Pull the rope 3-4 times. Did it start?
6. If it started move the choke slowly to open until the engine smooths out.
If it didn't start and you've been trying to start it. Open the choke all the way, connect the electric starter and then run the starter for about 5 seconds. Do that 5-6 times. That should clear the gas out and it should start. Don't run the starter for more than 15 seconds continuous - that can overheat the starter.
@@PaulSikkema great thank you for the information I'll give it a try in the morning
My dad's 2019 toro 928 has a key similar to this ignition key model 63-8360 which keeps popping out every time we start the snowblower. Not sure why my dad's came with a different ignition key
It appears whoever put it together may have lost the actual keys (were there any tie-wrapped to the starter handle?) I suggest going to a Toro dealer and getting a Toro snowblower key, insert it and see if that fixes your issue.
@@PaulSikkema My dad bought it from Home Depot. I can't believe they didn't include the other ignition key
Nice machine but has its querks. Have 1028 hd that must be a toro friday special. Throws good, plows good through deep snow. Still gets stuck, still rides up if going to fast. Bolts break, auger gear breaks.
Unfortunately, Toro uses the same designation for multiple years of snow blowers even when they make major changes to it. The 2019 Toro Power Max HD 1028 OHXE Model 38802 has some subtle changes to it that make it quite different from the older 1028. The auger, Impeller, housing and cute were all redesigned for this year. So, will the 2019 version act like yours? From what I've seen so far - Probably not
Unfortunately, Toro uses the same designation for multiple years of snow blowers even when they make major changes to it. The 2019 Toro Power Max HD 1028 OHXE Model 38802 has some subtle changes to it that make it quite different from the older 1028. The auger, Impeller, housing and cute were all redesigned for this year. So, will the 2019 version act like yours? From what I've seen so far - Probably not
Unfortunately, Toro uses the same designation for multiple years of snow blowers even when they make major changes to it. The 2019 Toro Power Max HD 1028 OHXE Model 38841 has some subtle changes to it that make it quite different from the older 1028. The auger, Impeller, housing and cute were all redesigned for this year. So, will the 2019 version act like yours? From what I've seen so far - Probably not
Idk...was new last fall. Already right off the bat it shot snow out of the side welds. Dealer has been good. Its been used to manage about 25 residential homes. Its had some repairs and had its use in last 2 months....over 100 uses and replaced shoes already. Noticed even the auger housing is caved when bolting the shoes on and the shave plate doesnt cover the span until shoes are tight. Feel it causes the auger to dip and wore some teeth. They need some tinkering...dealer even says the auger lever not staying down is a known issue to. Giving it some rest and using my new 28 ariens hydro efi, 25 driveways in and so far so good but doesnt have as much shoot elevation adjustment as toro. Need to shoot lower sometimes.
My model is 38841. Probably shouldve gotten the 38843 but i was led to believe the HD were more commercial. Didnt realize there was a step up.
Honda Killer!
Hi Paul
Do you know if Toro has made any changes to the 2020 two stage snow blowers? Love your videos.
No they did not. Last year the Power Max HD had the major updates so there will not be any changes this year. Also the 826 OXE had the metal chute upgrade. This years they've updated the single-stage and added the new 60 Volt cordless.
Ok. Thank you Paul
So, you had a little bit of snow, huh ? 😆 The new battery operated snow throwers would have lasted only one pass !! I have a Toro 828 LXE Power Max and I love it.
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But lasts be serious, gas is much better than the stupid battery that they're trying to force down our throats.
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Thanks for your video(s).
Hi Paul
Where can I buy spare parts to Toro 828. My 828 blowers fuel switch is disappeared
You can buy one from your local Toro dealer or order it from Toro. www.toro.com/en/parts/partdetails?id=55559&iid=448646&pid=499612
Tyank @@PaulSikkema
Thank you very much Paul. I found the part nr and made the order. I am living in Noway and I used to follow you on you tube
I don’t like that you have to let go of the drive system to adjust the chute, they got that backwards. It seems like a great machine otherwise.
This has interlocking drive handles so you can take your hand off the Impeller lever and adjust the chute.
Does the Toro throw as well as the Honda?
Yes, in addition is won't plug on heavy wet snow.
LOL, with Money...., Honda can get you it to the moon! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Does it have heated handles😊
The 928 does not.
What's the OAE stand for
O = 2-stage (I think)
A = Automatic Steering
E = Electric Start
H = Hand Warmers
X = Trigger steering
Once again my friend hello. I’m 75 years old and believe I may be a bit better in shape than you but not by any means as though I was 35 years old. I giving you this info not to criticize anything about you, but to allow you to understand a bit about my strength. Knowing this I would like to know what you feel would be the biggest wheeled machine I could use comfortably? I’ve communicated with you many times and truly value everything you’ve said regardless if for an Ariens video or a Toro video. After you respond to me I would like to know if you would feel their 1030 r the 1232 machines would be too much for me. Currently I still operate my Honda 1332 Track machine, but not like I did when at the younger age of 35 years old. Believe me when I say you are one heck of a wonderful person who responds quickly, honestly, and with great information. Thanks for all the past interactions and for any questions that yet may come.
Kraken: The dealers don't get the order info for this coming season until at least April 15th. Did that dealer sell any of the Special Editions last year? If he didn't they may not be available to that dealer this year. Check with him in late April and other dealers if he can't order them.
The Special Editions are very popular and I know there will be more made. Ariens, like everyone else, is still having supply chain issues so they may only be able to fulfill Krakens that are not ordered this spring.
I would love to have the Kraken - it has all the newest stuff including EFI, large fuel capacity, electric chute, 360 degree LED lighting, and so on - but the model I'd buy for myself would be the Ariens Professional 28 RapidTrak Hydro. Why?
1. In "wheel mode" it's perfectly balanced so it's very easy to turn. The machine itself is one of the largest capacity machines so it won't ride up in the front if you try to push too much snow into it - even in wheel mode. It is a lot easier to turn than a wheeled snowblower because it's balanced.
2. Pull the lever under the right handle and drop the tracks into track mode. It has all the traction it needs for snow. In track mode, you also get rid of the "it wants to steer by itself" complaints you hear from others who have the wheeled Ariens and Toro auto-turn snowblowers. When you want to turn just push down on the handles and it goes right back into wheel mode to make turning easy. It will actually zero-turn because both tracks move when you turn.
3. The 28 inch PRO actually has about 30% more capacity than your Honda 1332. (Actual specs from Honda and Ariens) In other words, it throws more snow so you can walk faster. Because it moves more snow you don't get as high of an arc as you do with the Honda but it still throws "Normal" snow 50 feet or more.
4. The 28 Pro does not have EFI but I don't need it where I live. EFI gives you a quicker governor response, a little more power, and it automatically adjusts for higher altitudes. The Ariens engines are designed for E10, 87 Octane fuel.
5. The Ariens Pro models - including the 28 Pro and Kraken have a much larger capacity and they don't clog on heavy/wet snow. The chute opening and chute are huge!
6. The ONLY time I've ever broken a shear pin on the PRO models is when I stuck it in a chain-link fence. Over the years I've had a broken front strut off a car and a baseball-size rock inside the housing. Both made a lot of noise but never busted the shear pins... If you run a lot of gravel through it the inside of the impeller and chute don't chip near as bad as the Honda. (A little Rustoleum fixes the chips) I also never heard of paint issues on an Ariens (like Cub Cadet)
7. Like your Honda the tracks also have a dig-in mode where you can put all the weight of the snowblower on the rear of the tracks. That way you can scrape driven on snow off your paved driveway.
8. The Pro models come with heavy, cast iron skid shoes and you can get poly shoes if you don't want to scratch your pavers or deck.
9. The Hydro is one of the PRO's biggest strengths. The lever is located close enough to the right handle that with a little practice you can change the speed and even go in reverse without stopping and taking your hand off the handle. It's also a single, commercial-grade hydro so you'll never have problems with it. The trigger steer Hondas use two smaller hydros.
Everything I've mentioned also applies to the Kraken and Mountaineering models. With the 32 inch width, they have even more capacity.
@@PaulSikkema Just had a thought: in my Hondas I would run it wit soft grade metric bolts with nylon lock nuts. Have you any experience, feedback from others, or just an opinion as to what if I would do the same with the Ariens? I would only do so if I had not the same experience as you with them not shearing with what you stated, but if my experience has them shearing often I’d be interested in a less costly alternative. Thanks once more.
I included the info you asked on Facebook in the previous comment.
ALWAYS use Original Ariens shear pins. Ariens shear pins are designed so they will shear when needed and won't cause damage to the power train. Shear pins are designed to break in a certain spot so most of the time they fly out of the hole. If they don't - they shear cleanly so they are easy to push out with an awl or pin punch. ( or even the flattened end of a nail.
Use the Ariens shear pins and they will last much longer than a cheap alternative. Like I said, I easily have 200 hours on Ariens snowblowers and I've only sheared two sets in 10 years. Both of them were from getting the snowblower caught in a chain link fence.
@Paul Sikkema thanks Paul
Toros anti clog is not “anti”. It clogs in wet snow. Had it happen more than once. I just ran my new Ariens in 6” of wet snow. I was in top gear, 6, and it didn’t even breathe hard. Threw the snow 30+’ without missing a,beat. Impressive. My Toro couldn’t go past gear 3 in most bigger snows and still clogged. Especially wet snows. New Ariens fanboy.
What model of Toro do you have?
@@PaulSikkema I had the Toro 826 OE. Sold it and bought the Ariens Rapid Track Platinum SHO. I have a friend that has the same Toro I did and his clogged on the last snowfall. I’m sure I would have had better luck with a bigger Toro, but Ariens track system is what I need for the type of terrain and snow here in Minnesota.
Yes, the Toro 826 with it's 10 inch impeller compares more to the Ariens Compact and MTD's 2-stage machines. It's a great machine for most Midwest driveways but it doesn't handle heavy/wet snow as well as the Toro Power Max HD or the Ariens Deluxe/Platinum/Pro.
How long is that driveway of yours?
my drive way is close to 200 feet long by 9 feet wide was wondering if this toro snowblower is HP enough (meaning can it last long enough or is the 1028 1428 better for the job? I like this toro hd 928 oae but am wondeing i have about 5,500 sq.feet to blow
The 928 has about 9 HP and automatic steering. The 1028 has about 10 HP and trigger steering. That's the only difference. If you only get 8-10 inch snows either one is fine. But, the 1428 is a commercial snow blower. It has about a 14 HP engine, dual impeller belts heavy-duty skid shoes. It will handle any snow you get quickly - including drifts, plow piles, etc. It will last you along time. Here is a link to it at Home Depot: homedepot.sjv.io/4rP09
Big snowblowers make me feel like I'm wrestling a polar bear.
That's why I usually recommend a 28 inch to most people. Even the well balanced 32-36 inch snow blowers like the Ariens and Toros can harder to use for average sized people.
@@PaulSikkema I have a new 32" tracked honda and it couldn't be easier to handle. Amazing machine. I came from a Toro 826, which was also good but not even close to the same league as the honda.
Are you and Mike, your neighbor, still friends ? :-)
We are still friends but I moved to Clinton, IA this summer.
If your not going to tell us about it, why do you even bring it up?
So, You'll come back in July :)
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feel sorry for your neighbor
DON'T YOU THINK A PLOW WOULD BE A LOT FASTER. ALL THE MONET YOU SPEND ON SNOW BLOWERS.
Plows have their place but it really depends on the amount of snow you get and where you can put the snow.
Where this video was made in Northern Wisconsin they get a lot of snow. In fact the year this was made my 42 inch chain link fence was buried. So a snowblower or loader tractor would have been the best way to clear the snow and get it away from the driveways.
Snowblowers get the snow away from your driveway so you don't have huge piles alongside your drive that just causes the next snow to drift across it.
If you live in an area like I do now a plow on your lawn/garden tractor could work because we only get 2-3 snows that are more than 6 inches.
I'm guessing you are thinking a plow on your lawn/garden tractor. They are pretty much worthless because todays lawn tractors have no weight on the back and only one or two currently made have a locking differential. In other words they can only push about 2 inches of snow - downhill unless you have 300 lbs of weight on the rear and tire chains.
A snowplow on your ATV/UTV is a little better because they weigh more and some have 4 wheel drive. But a plow for them is more than what this snowblower costs. And - they still won't get the snow away from your driveway and sidewalks.
Finally, a lot of homeowners have landscaping right next to their driveways and sidewalks. Spouses tend to get really mad when you destroy those expensive flower beds and shrubs by pushing snow over them. And your neighbor's tend to throw cusswords your way when you stack you snow piles on their property.
A great Video except for the STUPID MUSIC.!!! NOT wanted or needed. Thanks. That will be my next Snowblower. What make is that Engine? B&S have been Chinese for 9 years now.
Yes, if you listen to all the "video stars" you have have music. But. I've realized since this video my viewers wants the facts - not hype or slick music videos.
Toro engines are made by Loncin.
Get a pair of these so you do not slip and fall. www.amazon.com/s?k=snow+cleats&crid=24FHHWKSQORMT&sprefix=snow+cle%2Caps%2C193&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_8
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My snow blower will ride up if I'm going too fast
This one doesn't. I'm really pleased with how well it handles deep snow.
You can’t have the same machine. Paul is right it simply does not ride up.
If you do have this one and it rides up - you have a broken shear bolt. Please make sure you get a replacement bolt from Toro. The bolt is stronger than your typical hardware store one.
I have a yardmachine. The green model. Actually it was my dads I use it when I go help mom keep her drive open. It throws the snow good but it is cheaply built.
I always liked toro.
If you're worried about being too slippery wear some shoe cleats