Iyengar interview about is method and Krishnamacharya
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2014
- This interesting interview with the late Iyengar is telling of how is method developed .
Both my teachers Srivatsa Ramaswami and Iyengar were taught by T . Krishnamacharya.
Only difference: Iyengar was taught when he was 14 year’s old till he was 22 year’s old boy, while Srivatsa Ramaswami started when he was 14 year’s old until well over his mid 50’s and had more than 30 years of study with Krishnamacharya.
As Iyengar points out in this interview he learned the jumps and from there had to continue, while Ramaswami had to learn the jumps but also all the subtleties of the practice of krishnamacharya’s vinyasa yoga, chanting and meditation for a span that lasted for over 30 years of learning.
Srivatsa Ramaswami chose to teach yoga exactly as he was taught by his teacher Krishnamacharya while Iyengar, as he said in the interview, took another path : « From where my Guruji left, I proceeded ».
I am gratuful to both of them because i started doing yoga with Iyengar but the culmination of my studies were with what I consider my true teacher Mr. Srivatsa Ramaswami who helped me to understand all the full spectrum of yoga from the teacher of our teachers the father of modern yoga T. Krishnamacharya.
Thank you Ramaswami.
The fact that he can still read without his reading glasses is amazing.
Thanks for coming to earth and sharing your wisdom with perfect clarity and love. 🙏
Wow! My deep appreciation for beeing able to see and to hear the great Master, Iyengar, thank you very much! I have learnt a lot from this video. I am now reading his books. Best greetings from Germany.✨🙏🤗
This interesting interview with the late Iyengar is telling of how is method developed .
Both my teacher Srivatsa Ramaswami and Iyengar were taught by T . Krishnamacharya.
Only difference: Iyengar was taught when he was 14 year’s old till he was 22 year’s old boy, while Srivatsa Ramaswami started when he was 14 year’s old until well over his mid 50’s and had more than 30 years of study with Krishnamacharya.
As Iyengar points out in this interview he learned the jumps and from there had to continue, while Ramaswami had to learn the jumps but also all the subtleties of the practice of krishnamacharya’s vinyasa yoga, chanting and meditation for a span that lasted for over 30 years of learning.
Srivatsa Ramaswami chose to teach yoga exactly as he was taught by his teacher Krishnamacharya while Iyengar, as he said in the interview, took another path : « From where my Guruji left, I proceeded ».
I am gratuful to both of them because i started doing yoga with Iyengar but the culmination of my studies where with what I consider my true teacher Mr. Srivatsa Ramaswami who helped me to understand all the full spectrum of yoga from the teacher of our teachers the father of modern yoga T. Krishnamacharya.
Thank you Ramaswami.
Vinyasa Krama yoga thats wonderful to hear about another great master.. where did your guru, sri srivatsa ramaswami teach !? Which city did he establish his school ? The lineage still continuing ??
@@tilakdp Srivatsa Ramaswami was 15 years old or so when he began learning from Sri T Krishnamacharya around 1955 in Madras/Chennai. He began learning from him in the context of Krishnamacharya coming over to Ramaswami's family's home to teach them Yogasana and Pranayama. Later, Ramaswami continued to take lessons from the professor T Krishnamacharya in one-on-one classes. Ramaswami's classes under the professor proceeded from the practical into learning the classic texts from the Acharya who was an accomplished Sanskrit and Vedic scholar of high order. And so, Ramaswami learned much Vedic chanting as well, and learning of the texts word by word from the great professor T Krishnamacharya.
Ramaswami sir's last classes with T Krishnmacharya was in 1988, one year before the passing of the great professor, and as so Ramaswami sir would have spent a period of 33 years learning from T Krishnamacharya. What Ramaswami presents in terms of the teachings of Krishnamacharya is a pretty broad picture of what Krishnamacharya's teachings really encompassed. Yes, Krishmnamacharya taught "jumpings" as appropriate to agile youths, but Krishnamacharya also taught that yoga practice changes along with the seasons of one's life, as he taught of yoga for three broad stages of life as he wrote in his presentation of the Yoga Rahasya of Nathamuni.
As mentioned, Ramaswami sir also had the great opportunity to learn the proper context of Sadhana by learning the classic texts by such an accomplished scholar-practitioner in T Krishnmacharya himself. Ramaswami has taught programs in the US, the UK, Spain, Chennai, New Delhi, etc, but there is no "center" as he is just one man and he didn't establish a brick and mortar institution. But if you follow his publications and newsletter, he announces programs he is presenting, of late it is mostly online since the pandemic which enables people who cannot necessarily travel to the next city he would be teaching in to have the chance to learn from him as he presents both practice of Vinyasa Krama and Pranayama, the Mudras, and the classic texts like Yogasutra of Patanjali, Yoga Yajnavalkya, Samkhya Karika, Hathapradipika of Swatmarama, Bhagavad Gita, and several Upanishad Vidyas.
@@tilakdp if one is only familiar with Iyengar yoga and Ashtanga Vinyasa as far as schools coming from Krishnamacharya lineage, I highly would recommend for those wanting to know more in looking into the teachings of T Krishnamacharya's two sons TKV Desikachar (who founded the Krishnamacharya Yoga Mandiram in Chennai) and TK Sribhashyam (who founded a European yoga school called Yogakshemam), as well Krishnamacharya's longtime pupils Srivatsa Ramaswami and AG Mohan, all presenting a fuller picture of what T Krishnamacharya taught as per one's practice changing according to the seasons of life, Viniyoga, Chikitsa Krama, valuable teachings on Mudrās, a beautiful full exploration into Prāṇāyāma, Vedic chanting, Vedic understanding of Dhyāna, the classic texts which the listed pupils learned from T Krishnamacharya who was an accomplished scholar of high order who highlighted the need for both practice and study of such texts to understand the practice, etc. So much of Krishnamacharya's teachings is lesser known because the vast majority reduce him to what is widespread in Iyengar yoga and Ashtanga Vinyasa, but there's a wider scope to Krishnamacharya's teachings that is definitely worth exploring for anyone curious to know.
love both the tradition..learning and practising both..
Thank you for uploading This!
Beautiful guruji, shat shat pranaam.
Inspiring speech
So simply explained. Legend Nobody could understood yoga as Krishnamacharya, BKS iyengar, Pattabhi jois did.
chetankumr43, well.... maybe you could have at least put Patanjali in that little list ;-)
True Scientist! Scientists should look up to !
The elements of the body
There are two main energies: spiritual energy and material energy. Spiritual energy is conscious and material energy is unconscious. The soul is conscious spiritual energy and the body is made up of unconscious material energy.
Without food, there would only be the self, the soul aka antimatter with a size of 0.1 nanometer with its shells.
According to the Sankhya philosophy, a person's body is composed of the following 24 elements:
(1-5) 5 mahābhūtas ("great elements" - earth, water, fire, air, ether / space),
(6) manas (mind,
inclinations, spirit),
(7) buddhi (intelligence),
(8) ahaṅkāra (ego
as a result of identification with the body and what goes with it),
(9-13) 5 senses acquiring knowledge (indriya - sight, hearing, taste, smell and touch),
(14-18) 5 working senses (karmendriya - legs, arms, anus, genital and speech organ),
(19-23) 5 sensory objects (indriyārtha - shape / color, sound, taste, smell and touch),
(24) avyakta (the unmanifest)
The five great elements, the ten senses and the five sense objects make up the gross body and manas, buddhi, and ahankāra make up the subtle body. Avyakta is the basis of both. In this connection of 24 elements sits the individual soul (jivātma) as an inhabitant of the body, accompanied by the paramātma, the oversoul
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Happy birthday to Guruji..🙏 14th dec
Wonderful :)
Great
Obviously Iyengar didn't Look at the changing of Sri T. Krishnamacharyas method of teaching Yoga. I am yogateacher in both methods and able to compare. Iyengar ist the "master of pain", the methode of Sri T. Krishnamacharya and his son TKV Desikachar is rather therapistic without pain.
The elements of the body (2)
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With soul and oversoul, the human being consists of 26 elements. Jivātma and paramātma are both referred to as kṣetra-jña ("knower of the field"). The body is kṣetra, the field of activity, and the soul is the knower of the field. But while the Oversoul knows all fields of all living beings, the individual soul does not even properly know its respective body. Through unthinkable long contact with the material energy, the spiritual souls have forgotten their original knowledge and identify with the body in which they are currently living. With the body they try to enjoy by manipulating material nature and exploiting the riches of material nature.
These 24 elements are manifestations, transformations of the material energy and exist in and outside the body as constituents of the universe. Their development, properties and interactions are described in various Vedic scriptures and also in the Ayurveda classic Caraka-Samhita. Just as a potter makes a jug out of clay and water, the spiritual soul, under the influence of the three modes of appearance, sattva (goodness) , rajas (passion), tamas (ignorance), unconsciously creates its respective body from the 24 material elements through its inclinations. In contrast to the potter, who knows how to make a certain object, most souls do not know how they made their bodies. They carry out certain actions with one body, cherish certain likes and dislikes, etc. and receive their next body from the Oversoul according to their karma
The three doṣas (bioenergies and bioelements), the seven dhātus (types of body tissue), the upadhātus (subsidiary body tissue) and the malas (waste products) contain the mahābhūtas in different proportions. The seven dhātus are:
rasa (lymph; plasma)
rakta (blood)
maṃsa (muscle tissue)
medas (fat tissue)
asthi (bone tissue)
majja (bone marrow and nerve tissue)
śukra (sperm and egg cells)
The upadhātus are tendons, ligaments, blood vessels, muscle fat, breast milk, menstrual blood and the six layers of skin.
The body's breakdown products are feces, urine and sweat. Hair, fingernails and toenails, ear wax, and other secretions are also considered malas. The malas feces, urine and sweat, ear wax and other secretions need to be eliminated regularly. If they are not properly eliminated, disease will arise.
( From the signs and symptoms caused by the increase or decrease in doṣas, dhātus and malas, the doctor can determine which mahābhūtas are required to restore their equilibrium. Then he can prescribe certain foods and drugs (with corresponding mahābhūtas) to compensate for the deficits or excess of mahābhūtas in doṣas etc.)
Whether there are other energies and what these are all about can be found in the Srimad-Bhagavatam and other Vedic scriptures..
namaskaram!
how old is he on this interview ???
He is wright.Those jumping are bad for joints. Are balistic. Even for 30 years old that have just started the jumping is a totaly bad.
Creating Yoga that can acompany a man / a woman till their 90's is the wright way. Even Asthanga yoga is too hard . So Iyanger has created a method focusing on positions and staying in them; Slower with more chance to make fewer mistakes and rip more from every position.
And ithas worked. Has got a positive feedback. He saw a true need for more benifits and more aplicable.
So now we have the Iyanger Yoga.
So true. I did Ashtanga for years, Ghosh (Bikram) as well. Now, on my 50s, I prefer Ghosh and Iyengar. Less about being showy and more about the inner strength and experience. I enjoy Kundalini for those reasons as well.
Yes he is right, the jumps etc came from contact with the British Army gymnastic excercises
Not neccessarily a bad thing for youth excercise
Mark Singleton's research in "yoga body" is becoming dated. Please refer the more recent research of Jason Birch on the Hathabhyasa-Paddhati of Kapalakurantaka. This is a pre-colonial yoga text that describes over 100 asanas, and many are described in dynamic manners of execution, repetitive movements, jumping, etc, and even asanas proposed in sequence. "Jumping" did not have to be integrated from British gymnastics, there was already jumping in certain Hathayoga traditions in precolonial India. Frankly, to suggest these aspects are strictly western influences is fake news.
The jumps, from Himalayas too... ?
BKS Iyengar is my uncle.
I wish people would stop labeling yoga and just call it yoga. It's personal and individualistic.
many peoples
*make invalids of owself making yoga exercises in wrong way.really*
Yoga has lots of stages madam. And again Yoga is universal culture
It actually helps so you know what approach you're getting into.
Iyengar spend only quite little time with Krishnamacharya. He was later sent off to Pune to spread the teachings - that's the official version. After watching the movie "Der atmende Gott", it seems to me that Iyengar left with a very bruised ego because he was not able to perform the physically challenging asanas that Krishnamacharya taught the maharaj family members. He tried to find his own way of performing asana. He focused so much on alignment because he tore his hamstring after Krishnamacharya made him perform a full split even though he wasn't able to do it yet. Krishnamacharya seemed to be a very strict and relentless teacher, who slapped his students, if he was not satisfied with them. BKS was one of them, he was also Krishnamacharya's brother-in-law, and so, could not run away from his teaching drill. BKS still seems bitter and hurt about that time, like he spend half his life to prove that he can succeed and develop a better yoga style. He appears kind of arrogant. He certainly did do a great job by developing his Iyengar yoga method but he's just as human as everyone else, and seems not enlightened at all.
What is your source for your statement that BKS Iyengar could not perform the asanas and therefore left "Mysore with a brused ego" ? This sounds like a load of unfounded rubbish. I have also watched the Breath of the Gods and there was nothing in it about Iyengar not able to keep up. What was clear from the film is that Krishnamacharya was teaching children and young boys a vinyasa style to inspire an audience in the 1940s and abandon it after leaving and moving to Chennai where he taught asana more like the Iyengar method.
And what is enlightenment supposed to SEEM like?
@@sanna8300 Maybe tickle your own enlightenment, at least a little bit? :)
Just1Humanoid Oh I’ve done more than just tickle it!! Bt thanks though
@@sanna8300 It was an answer to the question what enlightenment should seem like.
Can anyone help me understand what he was trying to say about libertarians?
He said if you are a libertarian how can you say you are healthy..as he said there are seven states of health.
I think his interpretation of a libertarian is one who does whatever he or she pleases , without desiring any control. Such a person will not be truly healthy.
Hitata
I am glad that he admitted that he and his Guru totally deviated the Patanjali's yoga. The core of Patanjali is long enough expositions and very slow pose to pose transition. They did a catastrophical thing and damaged the health of thousands people by introducing the sportive elements in yoga for youngsters.
Very rare video that truly exposes the crime they have done to yoga, that was supposed to help find the contact with inner seöf and body and not do these teenager jumping.
Different yoga styles suit different people. The West was alway going to do things its own way because its culture is so different to that of historical India.
@@WH-hi5ewyoga shouldn't change to accommodate culture. It should maintain its purity and central teachings.
Bks iyengar is my uncle
BKS Iyengar evolved the science and art of yoga beyond what he was taught by Kristnamacharya. He wants his students to do the same and continue to make progress from where he left off. You imply in your description that Iyengar learnt less because he spent less time with his Guru, Kristnamachaya, and therefore his method is lacking in depth. I don't know who your teacher was who taught you the Iyengar method of Astanga Yoga, but I know it wasn't BKS Iyengar himself. I think your view is simplistic and illogical. To follow your reasoning Albert Einstein should have spent more time with the math teacher who failed him while he was at school. We are suppose to learn and evolve, not just copy what we are taught. That is what Patanjali teaches in the Yoga Sutras.
What do you really know about Yoga of Sri T krishnamacharya and Yoga of Iyengar by experience and Not by reading some books?
@@kelderecgraugnom8201 I think I learned quite a bit through my 30 yrs of practicing Yoga in the method taught by BKS Iyengar.
@@10100001000100011000 Are you a teacher of this methode, do you really know the concept, do you know the concept of Sri T Krishnamacharya and his son TKV Desikachar, how often are you doing your Yoga, what Kind of Translation of Yogasutra are you following, who teaches you this? Important questions? Only doing Yoga over 30 years doesn't say anything.
@@kelderecgraugnom8201 I have been taught by my guru BKS Iyengar in person. Yoga is the path of direct knowledge so I have learnt through personal practice and have been guided by the light of my guru.
@@10100001000100011000 You don't have to tell me what Yoga is. It's very remarkable that you are not asking why I am asking you such specific questions. But this Kind of "charakter" ou are showing in other comments too. My english is not good enough to create more greytones about this.
Hola! Namaste! Vinyasa Krama yoga ☺♥ me encanto el vídeo Iyengar entrevista sobre método y Krishnamacharya muy reflexivo lo comparto con mi audiencia en mi blog Om Shanti Om ♥ yogacrecimiento.blogspot.com.ar/2015/10/por-que-se-debe-practicar-yoga.html
+Kundalini Om
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Shouldn't that be his method, not is method. I do wish people who post videos on RUclips could at least spell properly have proper grammar
It's most likely just a typo.
im very sorry iyengar, but i dont thhink like you. respect, but dont tinhk same.
No issues you can be better if you devote life to yoga 😊 but you must be spiritual with logical for learning yoga
No idea what the hell he’s talking about
He's talking about his method of yoga and how it is a progression from previous yoga methods as he made it more artistic by incorporating poses that were more beautiful so it would attract more people. Also how he added the jumping when switching poses to add more excitement to the practice.
That said, I don't think his method is any better than the less attractive methods for the serious yogi. I think his main mission was to make yoga more popular worldwide and you can't argue with his results.
@@acl1218he's actually making a strong case for not jumping here.