I gotta give it to you. Your advice wasn’t what I expected it to be until I watched your video halfway through. I’ve been into graff about 30 years and when I first started hitting the streets of NYC in 89-90, it was all about trying to make jifs and catching tags. In the early to mid 90’s when German tips etc. were introduced, fat cap tags were a must. No exceptions. To my demise, my hand style never improved, yet, I thought I had style. Then in ‘97, one of the best and most unique writers out of the 5 boros of New York happened to be a neighbor of mine. We became friends and he changed my entire outlook on writing and can control. No more fat caps (he despised them) and strictly stock caps was how he would advise me to tag and practice while on the go. Utilizing my shoulder, elbow, and wrist was how I learned how to write on the biggest and smallest surface with spray paint and never drip. Over time, other writers would ask about me and admire style, since I became the latest member of my neighbors crew. We bombed hard for many years since then. That said, my weapons of choice for sharpening my skills on paper are: pencils for slow controlled movement when experimenting with styles and ideas. Second, my favorite and most preferred choice for bringing those ideas to life are Sharpie Ultra Fine Point markers. They help me keep a steady flow when writing with little to no mistakes. I think quick when using them, because I try not to oversaturate my tags, outlines etc. with ink. My #1 advice is to start simple and refine your style. Don’t rush it or try to be unique from the jump. After refining your style, play with it and make it your own. Be creative. Have a signature style. Don’t bite! Also, progression is important. Too many writers are stubborn and are afraid of change. Utilize the surface you write on...take up space, learn how to write backwards, upside down, vertical, diagonal etc. Be progressive!
@@xdef1ne Biggest writers in NYC during the 90's, you mean? Wow! There were so many. Too many to list. Anyone hitting the streets hard back then was influential in some way shape or form. A lot of writers focused on creativity and wanted to standout. It was all about hand styles and unique throw ups, because we had to attack the streets hard and swift, but with style. The 90's is when a lot 80's writer's (generation before me) transitioned from bombing trains and hit the streets (e.g. PG TPA, DG NWC, Cost KRT, Revs, Ghost RIS, Sane, Smith, Joz & Easy, Josh 5, Cope 2 KD, Chino BYI, Asp WTO, Dro ACC, Lc FUCK, Dek FYA, Ces FX, Ket RIS etc.), quit graf all together, and paved a way for the next generation (my generation), the street bombers. As for some big and some known names of the 90's that come to mind would be YKK- [Kez5, Jakee 113, Skuf & Naisha, Noxer DOD, Spot KMS, JA XTC, Foe, Web 113...], FTR-[Slash, Giz, Ve, Den, Cend LSD, Desa MTA, Kech, SN, Aones WTO...] Bruz TO, Astro WWV, Veefer, Dink, Ader AD, Keeps AD, Raep TCN, Nep TCN, Deck WGF, Sabe KST, Neta ACC, SP one, CS TFK, Ever NVA, Ea RIS, Duel RIS, Dr AA, Doms KOC, Dio UDI, Dem ACC, Deal RFC, Cash RFC, Dceve SMART, Sr NBK, Yes2, 2000 crew-[Rahb, Co3, Krash NFS, JB RIA...], IRAK-[Earsnot, Sace, Semen...] TKA, 5MH-[9Volt, Kel, Jouk, Amo, Bl, Suave...], KGB-[Near, Else, Ryno, Joust BD...], Joves TDO, Teck BS, RD 357/VIC, Re 357/VIC, Peek VIC, Serf, GNS 666 now 777, Korn COK, Risk 9, Rush ACID, Kuma, Gano VGL, Stem YNN, Sev TDT, Seus RTD, Marty SMART, Moose, Fanta, Mutz AA, Niro GF, OJ FYC, Fatal NFO, Boner HSB, Gouch, Hek TAD, Jesus Saves, Remo BTB , Stacs Yo, Audie U5, Papo DTF, Post VSOP, Set KRT, Scae, MQ DMS, Claw PMS, Cinik VAC, Ruel, Sate NVA, Sen 4, Sento TFP, Serp BTC, Setup KCW, Chip MOD, Cheo SMG, Bye FUCK, and the list goes on.
@Bobby Fisher Inspiration is useful, not biting. Use your environment and everything else around you, but other writer's styles. Be creative. Try practicing for a few days without looking at graf and you'll notice your style becoming more unique to who you are. Be open-minded and have confidence in your ideas. Your style should represent you. It's your signature. The more you do them, the more you'll improve and finesse your style. Whenever an idea comes to mind put it down on whatever you write on. Catalog your ideas and use those for references. That applies to old styles too. There's always room for improvement and updating your current style with old concepts.
For those who it applies to. Some people can actually tag wild style beautifully. Not just basically writing print letters with a tweak on em here and there. Push yourself
Guys, stop practicing the alphabet Newb move with no gains Never once is a word or senario going to be 26 letters long imo best way to start learning is with a calligraphy pen
For number four, I would recommend working on an alphabet, think it out, learn each letter and how they interact. Then try to put the letters together and see how they mesh. Even if you thought they were perfect, you'll find flaws when you try to stitch them together. Go back to the drawing board, until letters fit comfortably to make words. Once your name looks right, write it a million times with a ballpoint until you can do it perfect blindfolded. Then get a rusto and see how it looks on walls. Be critical of yourself until you're happy with what you've created
at my 65, I still write on my daily writing in that way. Some people get offended because I write ALL in upper case. That's my style. Period. Thank YOU for your video. I continue learning. This is ART.
A good point that helped me when I was a toy is taking my time on paper before getting muscle memory down , making sure everything is simple and legible before moving on to the crazy hand style shit , I think the best hand styles are ones everybody can read not just people who do graff can read , that’s how u get really famous in your city
Agreed! I just see random letters, stare at it for 3 minutes trying to figure out what it says. I'm a real toy, but I'd say if it's readable then you'd get somewhere!
most important ... if you feel the urge to dont fuk it up ... just ignore it .. and just go for it ... even if it turns out bad ... next time u do it better
According to them, if you are not absolutely top tier at it, you are a toy. You can be certain that they are toys, I've never seen or heard anyone what's good call others toys. They know what they where like when they started, and know it's not as easy as it looks.
This is also true not just for flow and such, but also letter structure and consistency. The more you drill cursive alphabets, you keep your letters the same height, you have the correct structure for the letters, and you write it the same way every time.
@@zem6300 hahaahh not true i write in cursive all the time well actualy my whole life but im prety sure i have dysgraphia so it looks diferent every time xd
I mean I'm still a toy, and I had a "decent" tag, and in 2 seconds, it's down. (It was real shit btw) I looked into it, and found this video and it helped. I developed a good handstyle, thanks to this video. Thanks for this!
glad you adressed the fat cap issue. its so crucial to learn with ballpoint pens and stock tips.those skinny caps and pens expose people who dont really have the fundamentals down.
I Like this one. And for the critics: its hard to give good support in people's development for grafitti. Its through making mistakes and breaking the rules that we discover the coolest tweaks and expressions, and even discover what our own handstyle is in the first place... So dos and donts are hypocrytical. But this dude does point out his awareness of the relative aspect to these tips and he plainly gives pretty relevant guidelines for enhancing your skills in this genre of self-expression. Also there actually are typical aesthetics that appeal to the general public or put people off. And since grafitti does inherently address the public it's a pretty noble cause to take that into consideration and apply your art and activism with care and purpose
-we all make mistakes in graffiti...but it's hard not to because we compare our handstyles and just want to be creative and noticed. -this is our form of communication to eachother in real time while trying not to get caught. Good video bro. -do one where you're just tagging all in a magazine using different markers with commentary.
@@fakenamerealchungus9851 no, Potsu sampled her. X bought the rights to use the track as an instrumental. It's not even the XXX song it's the original instrumental by Potsu
@@imelevated53 well yes and no... Like who's gonna hit churches Don't go over anyone you don't know Some gang shit too because of repercussions What I meant was there's no rules in styles You are what you create fuck what ppl hate
Honestly bro, I went in to this video expecting it to be shit but this is really good advice for beginners, I often think these exact thoughts when I see shit tags. Good on ya
Greats tips. This will help out beginners a lot. Biggest problem with novice taggers is that they try to do too much. Keep it simple. Throw up responsibly.
Wish I had this video when I started, I thought the tips were pretty good and I don’t think in anyway that you are putting rules on graff or trying to put down people on their different styles, onya mate!
We had simple rules that made the scene one of the most influential scenes in Europe. Do the sticks, write simple and readable, the guidelines of 3d and Shadows go Always in the same way, be Friends and have fun.
i just started off tagging. started off as desk tagging and now i’m working on my handstyle. i’m gonna do my buddies van and then my own album covers as well. thank you for the advice sir.
aren't halos used when a tagger died cuz when i see 1 i think automatically somebody died i have been in graffiti and tagging for a while and this was a rule yk just wanted to tell
Thanks for the tips mate. Good luck everyone that comes across this video don’t let anyone tell you what you are:/ tbh people that use the term toy on other people are just people that are so insecure and egotistical on their own work that they like to shit on other people’s work. Do whatever that makes you happy as long as you have good technique and original style don’t let anyone tell you otherwise
Every one ik worries about the brand pens and size off the nibs I worry how it looks I also do think about what im using when im tagging but idrc most the time
I believe everyone has their own styles in graff and no one can tell you want you cant do or add to your style if that's what you like.. at the end of the day it doesnt matter what people say about your style.. just dont be toy
Everyone starts off with toyish writes but you progress during time with different writes, but dont over do it with extra arrows or " just try to keep a steady flow of the letters and your name will come out your own way and unique
I've watched this after buying a basic chisel tip, uni broad 8mm chisel tip, molotow dripstick and molotow masterpiece speedflow to get me started. when I heard I didn't needed fancy stuff I got mad mad
Dude there's a tag out there full of embelishments and imo it's the best tag in town HAHAHAH, but it came from an awesome writer so he probably knew what he was doing
I'M A ARTIST MYSELF KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!! ME MYSELF I'M NOT THE GREATEST GRAFFITI ARTIST IN THE WORLD BUT YOUR TUTORIALS ARE EXCELLENT!!! PROPS OVER HERE!!!✌✌✌
Wicked video man fuck all these negative comments. Really informative and easy to follow vid. Hope to see more :) PS you got any pics/vids of your actual tag/graffiti?
There's no rules on how you're supposed to tag. That's like me saying I think your girlfriend is ugly because I don't like her looks and style and she should wear this and do this and then I'll like her... It's not meant for you to like
not registered well you can do whatever you want but no other good writers will like it and you’ll be a toy, and have your shit wrecked and painted over lol
My question is, is there a minimum amount of letter you SHOULD have I mean four looks good but my actual tag has two letters and idgaf just wondering the general thought
Props to all the guys hiding behind their keyboard shitting on the guy giving decent tips. Greetings from Paris, I wish I would have had something like that when I began ;) Keep it up
Jean-Claude Vandal Lmao they’re shitting on him because there’s no right way to do art, it’s supposed to be fun and people do whatever they want eventually they’ll find what they like and they’ll master it, that’s the point
@@ChikoSmoke2400 Haha so there's no right way but your shitting on people because they're not doing it the way you want ? You see the contradiction here, right ?
@@zebedeerotten533 Paris is the most active european city, graffiti wise. Thank you bye, ignorant fuck. And yes they're decent tips for a beginner but I wouldn't expect you to know your ass from your elbow so ....
ive been practicing my one liner tag for years, im pretty satified with it. My advice would be to want flow want creativity and want style! Also practice writing the alphabet in different styles
I understand what you doing but your techniques of tagging your name is of 2000's... And not of the 70' s n the 80"s... I'm a Graffiti Writer since '79 til this very day... You can write any way you like!! Cuz it's about you n your expression,..
yeah sometimes you gotta make mistakes yourself. Nobody started out great, Most experienced writers had to make their own mistakes and learn from them first-hand, I'm the same way :P
CMF23 some unsolicited advice. Fill as many notebooks as you can with tags and throws. I filled at least one notebook a day for many years. It doesn’t take as long as you would think and it helps a ton.. *v* VRSCREW
Getting caught up in the adrenaline is such a good point, my first Street car tag sucked ass It was legible but it’s super cloudy and I wasn’t happy with it, still felt good to hit it though
Coming from West Syd been sketching and writing for nearlly 12 years, i completely agree with everything you said and thought all the advice was awesome i defs wish i had something like like thsi when i was younger looking to learn but i ended up teaching myelsf everything i know...... anddd was just wondering where abouts in australia are you from i can tell buy your accent??
it is and always has been the same in graff. toys obey the rules, kings make the rules. so get over your low self esteem ass and do stuff nobody has done before, but do it good
ive found a tag i kind of like (still exprimenting) and i can write it, but it only looks good when its small and compact (in my opinion) when i do it large it just looks kind of ugly, any tips?
Graff Lounge lol. Seriously , your advice is not bad but you’re handstyle looks like corporate graff .. there is nothing organic about it .. it’s non descript , non regional and looks like a bastardized version of numerous styles .. imho
my first marker was 17 mm chisel tip, dint learn anything. but then i buyed 2 5mm chisel tips, and i learned and now i am much better with big markers than the smaller markers.
Hey man I was planning on doing a tribute piece and I was thinking of planning that out. Should I do that or just go there with only a basic idea of what I want?
You know there are tags with exponential growth as an aspect. Your first example of a bad tag is literally the simplest way to do a good tag, you just exaggerated it to make it look bad. You make the letters bigger as the tag progresses so the first letter is 1:1 ratio, the next letter is 1.5:1, the third is 2:1 and so on. You throw an overall curve upward or downward into the mix so the whole tag curves up or down, and gets smaller or bigger exponentially. Having tags that stay the same size and consistency is bad and a sign of an amateur. Also you don't sound like an older artist. So I know you think you're entitled and you don't know if you're right or not. What you're saying is pretty much only good for block style.
I think the point is that one shouldn't mess with those more advanced aspects when they don't understand the baseline they build on. Tags with growth or curves or otherwise breaking the mold can be good, but there's often a mindset and consistency behind it. It isn't the arbitrary and gaudy stuff a beginner attempts when trying to force something to look cool.
1st: point don't focus on cool extra embellishments 2nd: make sure your letters are the same size but at the same time you can make them different sizes 3rd: don't buy good quality pens to start off you have to use shit ones 4th: you can't draw the tag the way you want 5th: you can't create detailed tags in the comfort in your own home
Graffiti is graffiti period ur style is what u make it there is no correct way as long as ur consistent and u kill everything I've seen toys kill downtown LA and I cant hate but congratulate
I can see your point, I don’t really like some of his letters (his f and e namely). But I think the simplicity helps for toys to read it. But yeah, he knows what he’s saying.
you should be able to do a tag with ur eyes closed consistently. its about muscle memory and feeling, its the opposite of calligraphy. just tag paper over and over and you'll get the feeling for it, dont get pulled in by fonts or trying to make ur tag perfect
I think graffiti has some rules like no writing on cars, Its okey but how do you write tags and what colors do you chose is on you or not? So what graffiti is about when you have rules like this (again, i don't count where you schould not tag or paint graffiti)
having messy handwriting actually helped me with tagging when i started because i already had such a good flow from writing in shitty half cursive lol
same bro
Yea I know what you mean lool
shout out to my high school benchmate who couldn't read my notes ily
Same lmaoooo
@@shrimpfry880 i graduated last year and miss it bro i took my time for granted in there.
I gotta give it to you. Your advice wasn’t what I expected it to be until I watched your video halfway through.
I’ve been into graff about 30 years and when I first started hitting the streets of NYC in 89-90, it was all about trying to make jifs and catching tags. In the early to mid 90’s when German tips etc. were introduced, fat cap tags were a must. No exceptions. To my demise, my hand style never improved, yet, I thought I had style.
Then in ‘97, one of the best and most unique writers out of the 5 boros of New York happened to be a neighbor of mine. We became friends and he changed my entire outlook on writing and can control. No more fat caps (he despised them) and strictly stock caps was how he would advise me to tag and practice while on the go. Utilizing my shoulder, elbow, and wrist was how I learned how to write on the biggest and smallest surface with spray paint and never drip.
Over time, other writers would ask about me and admire style, since I became the latest member of my neighbors crew. We bombed hard for many years since then.
That said, my weapons of choice for sharpening my skills on paper are: pencils for slow controlled movement when experimenting with styles and ideas. Second, my favorite and most preferred choice for bringing those ideas to life are Sharpie Ultra Fine Point markers. They help me keep a steady flow when writing with little to no mistakes. I think quick when using them, because I try not to oversaturate my tags, outlines etc. with ink.
My #1 advice is to start simple and refine your style. Don’t rush it or try to be unique from the jump. After refining your style, play with it and make it your own. Be creative. Have a signature style. Don’t bite! Also, progression is important. Too many writers are stubborn and are afraid of change. Utilize the surface you write on...take up space, learn how to write backwards, upside down, vertical, diagonal etc. Be progressive!
Thulsa Doom who were the biggest back then?
@@xdef1ne Biggest writers in NYC during the 90's, you mean? Wow! There were so many. Too many to list. Anyone hitting the streets hard back then was influential in some way shape or form. A lot of writers focused on creativity and wanted to standout. It was all about hand styles and unique throw ups, because we had to attack the streets hard and swift, but with style.
The 90's is when a lot 80's writer's (generation before me) transitioned from bombing trains and hit the streets (e.g. PG TPA, DG NWC, Cost KRT, Revs, Ghost RIS, Sane, Smith, Joz & Easy, Josh 5, Cope 2 KD, Chino BYI, Asp WTO, Dro ACC, Lc FUCK, Dek FYA, Ces FX, Ket RIS etc.), quit graf all together, and paved a way for the next generation (my generation), the street bombers.
As for some big and some known names of the 90's that come to mind would be YKK- [Kez5, Jakee 113, Skuf & Naisha, Noxer DOD, Spot KMS, JA XTC, Foe, Web 113...], FTR-[Slash, Giz, Ve, Den, Cend LSD, Desa MTA, Kech, SN, Aones WTO...] Bruz TO, Astro WWV, Veefer, Dink, Ader AD, Keeps AD, Raep TCN, Nep TCN, Deck WGF, Sabe KST, Neta ACC, SP one, CS TFK, Ever NVA, Ea RIS, Duel RIS, Dr AA, Doms KOC, Dio UDI, Dem ACC, Deal RFC, Cash RFC, Dceve SMART, Sr NBK, Yes2, 2000 crew-[Rahb, Co3, Krash NFS, JB RIA...], IRAK-[Earsnot, Sace, Semen...] TKA, 5MH-[9Volt, Kel, Jouk, Amo, Bl, Suave...], KGB-[Near, Else, Ryno, Joust BD...], Joves TDO, Teck BS, RD 357/VIC, Re 357/VIC, Peek VIC, Serf, GNS 666 now 777, Korn COK, Risk 9, Rush ACID, Kuma, Gano VGL, Stem YNN, Sev TDT, Seus RTD, Marty SMART, Moose, Fanta, Mutz AA, Niro GF, OJ FYC, Fatal NFO, Boner HSB, Gouch, Hek TAD, Jesus Saves, Remo BTB , Stacs Yo, Audie U5, Papo DTF, Post VSOP, Set KRT, Scae, MQ DMS, Claw PMS, Cinik VAC, Ruel, Sate NVA, Sen 4, Sento TFP, Serp BTC, Setup KCW, Chip MOD, Cheo SMG, Bye FUCK, and the list goes on.
Bobby Fisher nah
@Bobby Fisher Inspiration is useful, not biting. Use your environment and everything else around you, but other writer's styles. Be creative.
Try practicing for a few days without looking at graf and you'll notice your style becoming more unique to who you are. Be open-minded and have confidence in your ideas. Your style should represent you. It's your signature. The more you do them, the more you'll improve and finesse your style.
Whenever an idea comes to mind put it down on whatever you write on. Catalog your ideas and use those for references. That applies to old styles too. There's always room for improvement and updating your current style with old concepts.
dope story u caught my eye and nice name and band
the golden rule, keep it simple
For those who it applies to. Some people can actually tag wild style beautifully. Not just basically writing print letters with a tweak on em here and there. Push yourself
That dont always work
Ya if you’re a toy golden rule lmao!
Noone ever said that's the golden rule. Maybe it's youtube graffiti golden rule, for bitches. Thanks for pointing that out.
Yeah i learned that with my tag
When you wanna be rebellious but you also want to follow rules
Action Yuri lolololol the irony
more of quidelines anyway eh?
“When you wanna be rebellious but you also want to follow the guidelines” - that sounds even worse!🤣
facts
LOL that's hilarious
I'd say one of the biggest things is to practice the whole alphabet, not just the name you write.
Alphabet before anything.
I agree i think thas wat he means get your letter game up then u can ad the rest of the furniture..
Yeah alphabet first take the best letters you can tag up from the alphabet use those too pick a name then practice them more in different styles
Guys, stop practicing the alphabet
Newb move with no gains
Never once is a word or senario going to be 26 letters long
imo best way to start learning is with a calligraphy pen
@@VexxJacobs No he means write the whole alphabet with your style not just your name
1st mistake using a marker that’s almost running out of ink 😂😂
KING RYMEZ 04 flare tag lol
I like. That look tho
lmaoo was literally me tonight
Not a mistake, well mayb here it is but you can deffinitly make a almost empty marker work... Like George Rodriquez said, flaretags!
Bruh stopped listening after the first tag. Looking like comic sans. dried up ole crusty ass crayola
For number four, I would recommend working on an alphabet, think it out, learn each letter and how they interact. Then try to put the letters together and see how they mesh. Even if you thought they were perfect, you'll find flaws when you try to stitch them together. Go back to the drawing board, until letters fit comfortably to make words. Once your name looks right, write it a million times with a ballpoint until you can do it perfect blindfolded. Then get a rusto and see how it looks on walls. Be critical of yourself until you're happy with what you've created
at my 65, I still write on my daily writing in that way. Some people get offended because I write ALL in upper case. That's my style. Period. Thank YOU for your video. I continue learning. This is ART.
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I do the same kinda style I use uppercases for my tag and I use my grandpa's style of cursive for it
A good point that helped me when I was a toy is taking my time on paper before getting muscle memory down , making sure everything is simple and legible before moving on to the crazy hand style shit , I think the best hand styles are ones everybody can read not just people who do graff can read , that’s how u get really famous in your city
Well said. Rad Avail profile pic, dude!
But you aee.Still so Toy
Right on. Straight letter tags and pieces will always look the best.
Agreed! I just see random letters, stare at it for 3 minutes trying to figure out what it says. I'm a real toy, but I'd say if it's readable then you'd get somewhere!
@@joanamariebautista nice I guess I have to subscribe to you now too lmfao
I used to think my tags were “simple” and now I realize I was going in the right direction considering I’m still just a beginner.
So much hate in the comments. This is solid advice for beginners.
ビンガム this is solid for anyone. The basics stay bold
i see no hate in comments
He deleting the hate. Some people are hating cos it’s kind of painful to watch a guy who can barley tag giving lessons on how to tag.
Those 472 dislikes are younger kids who got triggered when you took a shot at their drips 😂
ForkUp oof! 😂
What did you people do to graffiti? Ugh...
858
Or quit throwing up tags on legit quality graffiti. Tagging is for goofs.
@@miketownsend4416 nah bruh, just a level below. Throwing up on other people’s pieces are for goofs
most important ... if you feel the urge to dont fuk it up ... just ignore it .. and just go for it ... even if it turns out bad ... next time u do it better
People on here saying your toy? Ive been writing over a decade and in my opinion you have sick letters and explained structure very well.
lol
No this is toy af g
According to them, if you are not absolutely top tier at it, you are a toy. You can be certain that they are toys, I've never seen or heard anyone what's good call others toys. They know what they where like when they started, and know it's not as easy as it looks.
They just salty that you introduce graffiti to new writers cause they know they gonna have more competition cause they probably shit.
Only toys use the word toy
this will sound a
Iittle weird , but if you wanna get better at graffiti , you should practice cursive writing
Yes. Flow is one of the most important things
yep, especially for sick connect tags
i writhe in cursive but i can hardly read this xd
This is also true not just for flow and such, but also letter structure and consistency. The more you drill cursive alphabets, you keep your letters the same height, you have the correct structure for the letters, and you write it the same way every time.
@@zem6300 hahaahh not true i write in cursive all the time well actualy my whole life but im prety sure i have dysgraphia so it looks diferent every time xd
I mean I'm still a toy, and I had a "decent" tag, and in 2 seconds, it's down. (It was real shit btw) I looked into it, and found this video and it helped. I developed a good handstyle, thanks to this video. Thanks for this!
Whats ur name on ig? I wanna see ur handstyle
@@zayno240 yes
Great to see younger guys taking in some good old fashioned old skool advice. 👍
glad you adressed the fat cap issue. its so crucial to learn with ballpoint pens and stock tips.those skinny caps and pens expose people who dont really have the fundamentals down.
I Like this one. And for the critics: its hard to give good support in people's development for grafitti. Its through making mistakes and breaking the rules that we discover the coolest tweaks and expressions, and even discover what our own handstyle is in the first place...
So dos and donts are hypocrytical. But this dude does point out his awareness of the relative aspect to these tips and he plainly gives pretty relevant guidelines for enhancing your skills in this genre of self-expression.
Also there actually are typical aesthetics that appeal to the general public or put people off. And since grafitti does inherently address the public it's a pretty noble cause to take that into consideration and apply your art and activism with care and purpose
Listen to this guy he talks the truth in France and Italy the older writers teach the younger writers
i was shat on when i went to Paris, feels like theres too many writers every accessible spot is taken in the whole city
I was in Rome two months ago and this city basically is what got me into graffiti
I miss the mentorship days.
France lol
I’ve been doing graffiti 15+ years. I still blow through a pack of paper in a day doing tags and hand styles over and over again.
-we all make mistakes in graffiti...but it's hard not to because we compare our handstyles and just want to be creative and noticed. -this is our form of communication to eachother in real time while trying not to get caught. Good video bro. -do one where you're just tagging all in a magazine using different markers with commentary.
love that subtle beat of X in the background
Psycho what are both these song, pls hhelp
@@liamridgewell2464 one of them is Japan by famous Dex and asap rocky
Think you mean the Shiloh beat. X sampled her.
@@fakenamerealchungus9851 no, Potsu sampled her. X bought the rights to use the track as an instrumental. It's not even the XXX song it's the original instrumental by Potsu
no rules in graff do you do the best u can
There’s most definitely rules lmao unless you’re not tryna get up
@@imelevated53 well yes and no...
Like who's gonna hit churches
Don't go over anyone you don't know
Some gang shit too because of repercussions
What I meant was there's no rules in styles
You are what you create fuck what ppl hate
@@imelevated53 and most ppl who getup the most dgaf about rules that's how they get up more....-___-
Arise Beats facts bro
@@random_guy_277 yes?
Honestly bro, I went in to this video expecting it to be shit but this is really good advice for beginners, I often think these exact thoughts when I see shit tags. Good on ya
This dude has the best taste in music x, trippie, uzi... daaamnn i was just vibing
Greats tips. This will help out beginners a lot. Biggest problem with novice taggers is that they try to do too much.
Keep it simple. Throw up responsibly.
“Throw up responsibily” think about that a second
Wish I had this video when I started, I thought the tips were pretty good and I don’t think in anyway that you are putting rules on graff or trying to put down people on their different styles, onya mate!
Idk what this guy's talking about all of them looked cool and unique to me... And that's the point. I don't like seeing people copy others
No halos or crowns unless you king your city
Halos are ok.
I earned my shit lol did years in prison for the shit got 50,000$ restitution
But i got dead homies... the Halo is for them
Halos are so nice to do, just the perfect circle it feels very nice.
@WASSABI! lol it was a bit too wide
We had simple rules that made the scene one of the most influential scenes in Europe. Do the sticks, write simple and readable, the guidelines of 3d and Shadows go Always in the same way, be Friends and have fun.
Everyone hatin I actually like your vids as a beginner you help keep it up man
i just started off tagging. started off as desk tagging and now i’m working on my handstyle. i’m gonna do my buddies van and then my own album covers as well. thank you for the advice sir.
you definitely ruined your buddys van
Sure he doesn't have good style now but sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders to get better. Good video man.
aren't halos used when a tagger died cuz when i see 1 i think automatically somebody died i have been in graffiti and tagging for a while and this was a rule yk just wanted to tell
Thanks for the tips mate. Good luck everyone that comes across this video don’t let anyone tell you what you are:/ tbh people that use the term toy on other people are just people that are so insecure and egotistical on their own work that they like to shit on other people’s work. Do whatever that makes you happy as long as you have good technique and original style don’t let anyone tell you otherwise
Every one ik worries about the brand pens and size off the nibs I worry how it looks
I also do think about what im using when im tagging but idrc most the time
I believe everyone has their own styles in graff and no one can tell you want you cant do or add to your style if that's what you like.. at the end of the day it doesnt matter what people say about your style.. just dont be toy
i've been getting really frustrated by not being able to progress mt tags and make them better and this video helped a tonne cheers bro
important about graffiti in general is to paint the city and have fun. There are no rules... feel free & do whatever you want to :)
If you don't have style though no one will remember you and you'll get crossed out or burned over.
ive always been complimented on my letter spacing cuz i have a short 4 letter tag with wide letters it’s really simple but always comes out sick
Y’all can’t say he’s giving the game too many rules and then tell him his styles wack loool
Yes you can?
Why not?
Everyone starts off with toyish writes but you progress during time with different writes, but dont over do it with extra arrows or " just try to keep a steady flow of the letters and your name will come out your own way and unique
I've watched this after buying a basic chisel tip, uni broad 8mm chisel tip, molotow dripstick and molotow masterpiece speedflow to get me started. when I heard I didn't needed fancy stuff I got mad mad
same I got the uni and I’m a beginner and after I watched this I got pretty upset
Man I've been tagging for a few years and still never have gotten a dripstick or molotow anything..... Just a small black or white chisel tip is good.
great vid wish i seen it 15 years ago when i first started lol. u explained it very well.
Dude there's a tag out there full of embelishments and imo it's the best tag in town HAHAHAH, but it came from an awesome writer so he probably knew what he was doing
My hand style is absolute shit and I been doing this about a year. When you start no one tells you about the learning curve lol.
Spanish class is a great time to practice (-;
I'M A ARTIST MYSELF KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!! ME MYSELF I'M NOT THE GREATEST GRAFFITI ARTIST IN THE WORLD BUT YOUR TUTORIALS ARE EXCELLENT!!! PROPS OVER HERE!!!✌✌✌
geez this mf tried to make bad letters as an example and they still rocked
Wicked video man fuck all these negative comments. Really informative and easy to follow vid. Hope to see more :)
PS you got any pics/vids of your actual tag/graffiti?
There's no rules on how you're supposed to tag. That's like me saying I think your girlfriend is ugly because I don't like her looks and style and she should wear this and do this and then I'll like her... It's not meant for you to like
not registered well you can do whatever you want but no other good writers will like it and you’ll be a toy, and have your shit wrecked and painted over lol
Art with rules, yeah that sounds fun
You have a nice hand style don't listen to them your not sloppy and the letters are in proportion.👍👑
My question is, is there a minimum amount of letter you SHOULD have I mean four looks good but my actual tag has two letters and idgaf just wondering the general thought
Props to all the guys hiding behind their keyboard shitting on the guy giving decent tips. Greetings from Paris, I wish I would have had something like that when I began ;) Keep it up
Jean-Claude Vandal Lmao they’re shitting on him because there’s no right way to do art, it’s supposed to be fun and people do whatever they want eventually they’ll find what they like and they’ll master it, that’s the point
they aint decent tips ... lol
maybe in france this is good ... lol
@@ChikoSmoke2400 Haha so there's no right way but your shitting on people because they're not doing it the way you want ? You see the contradiction here, right ?
@@zebedeerotten533 Paris is the most active european city, graffiti wise. Thank you bye, ignorant fuck. And yes they're decent tips for a beginner but I wouldn't expect you to know your ass from your elbow so ....
Jean-Claude Vandal tu possède le meilleur nom de tout yt
Going from small letters to bigger letters looks good on a nonstop
1:32 I actually like this tag
7:14 HAHAHAHA ME WHEN I'M TEACHING MY NIECE HOW TO WRITE AND GETS ANNOYED BECAUSE SHE CAN"T WRITE THE LETTER "A"
Wait graffiti or the English alphabet
ive been practicing my one liner tag for years, im pretty satified with it. My advice would be to want flow want creativity and want style! Also practice writing the alphabet in different styles
I understand what you doing but your techniques of tagging your name is of 2000's... And not of the 70' s n the 80"s... I'm a Graffiti Writer since '79 til this very day... You can write any way you like!! Cuz it's about you n your expression,..
some good advice, but at the end of the day do what feels right to u.
yeah sometimes you gotta make mistakes yourself. Nobody started out great, Most experienced writers had to make their own mistakes and learn from them first-hand, I'm the same way :P
can you tell me or make a video on how to tag the name LaRRyl33t in different styles... and how to spray paint it in bombing style
I'm a relatively new writer, but I've filled up half a notebook with tags just consistently practicing letters and characters
CMF23 some unsolicited advice. Fill as many notebooks as you can with tags and throws. I filled at least one notebook a day for many years. It doesn’t take as long as you would think and it helps a ton..
*v* VRSCREW
Fill as many books as you can
Vrs crew kommt mir bekannt vor, welches Bundesland seid ihr aktiv?
@@card2047 (VRS Crew looks familiar to me, which state are you in?)
@@prisma8525 I'm from Germany and I think @Chris Zimmerman too
Getting caught up in the adrenaline is such a good point, my first Street car tag sucked ass It was legible but it’s super cloudy and I wasn’t happy with it, still felt good to hit it though
u tagged a car?
@@yakub888 streetcars are trains on the road, just public transit
@@elliejelly8815 ?? Wtf does that mean
@@elliejelly8815 did u tag a personal car or a bus
@@yakub888 it is a train where the tracks are on the street
I personally hate "halos" it just most likely doesnt fit in or makes your tag look unbalanced.
If you're to break a rule a clean break is preferable 😆 love Graff channels
thank you so much, this helps a lot!
Coming from West Syd been sketching and writing for nearlly 12 years, i completely agree with everything you said and thought all the advice was awesome i defs wish i had something like like thsi when i was younger looking to learn but i ended up teaching myelsf everything i know...... anddd was just wondering where abouts in australia are you from i can tell buy your accent??
There are no rules in Grafitti
gino walter yes there are idiot 😂😂
There are ethics.
@@ronaldogutierrez8807 so there are rules for vandalism? Rules for an activity/a subculture that is all about breaking rules/laws?
@@aestheticcaveman9987 you missed my point mate..
FBKR yes graffiti is an art
I LOVE YOUR HANDSTYLE :)
BTW GREAT VIDEO!!
There's no rules in graf stop putting rules to something that's free.
Rodney Ayala there are many rules in graff.
it is and always has been the same in graff. toys obey the rules, kings make the rules. so get over your low self esteem ass and do stuff nobody has done before, but do it good
there are rules when it comes to painting on the street.
leon is one of the toys the kings hate.
@@g0stn0te what are the "rules" ?
i mostly make my own mops.i'm a begginer is it ok to copy work for practice in a black book?
Nice video man keep it up
ive found a tag i kind of like (still exprimenting) and i can write it, but it only looks good when its small and compact (in my opinion) when i do it large it just looks kind of ugly, any tips?
Person with no hand style makes a video about hand style. 🤔🤔🤔
CJ -NYC Person with no showcase of a hand style makes yt comments judging others hand styles. 🤔🤔🤔
Graff Lounge I have a different hand style for every pimple on your face...
yeah , just as I suspected...none
Graff Lounge lol. Seriously , your advice is not bad but you’re handstyle looks like corporate graff .. there is nothing organic about it .. it’s non descript , non regional and looks like a bastardized version of numerous styles .. imho
See now that's a more respectable way to go about critique, while I disagree I appreciate the honest feedback and I'll take it on board. Peace
my first marker was 17 mm chisel tip, dint learn anything. but then i buyed 2 5mm chisel tips, and i learned and now i am much better with big markers than the smaller markers.
Lol he makes good points but his own style is questionable..
Wdym? He’s very good
Hey man I was planning on doing a tribute piece and I was thinking of planning that out. Should I do that or just go there with only a basic idea of what I want?
You know there are tags with exponential growth as an aspect. Your first example of a bad tag is literally the simplest way to do a good tag, you just exaggerated it to make it look bad. You make the letters bigger as the tag progresses so the first letter is 1:1 ratio, the next letter is 1.5:1, the third is 2:1 and so on. You throw an overall curve upward or downward into the mix so the whole tag curves up or down, and gets smaller or bigger exponentially. Having tags that stay the same size and consistency is bad and a sign of an amateur. Also you don't sound like an older artist. So I know you think you're entitled and you don't know if you're right or not. What you're saying is pretty much only good for block style.
I think the point is that one shouldn't mess with those more advanced aspects when they don't understand the baseline they build on. Tags with growth or curves or otherwise breaking the mold can be good, but there's often a mindset and consistency behind it. It isn't the arbitrary and gaudy stuff a beginner attempts when trying to force something to look cool.
Brilliant advice Graff Lounge, now I know to remember and to practice drawing or doing an graffiti tags, graffiti pieces and graffiti drawing.
Theres no mistakes if it's ur own handstyle
Yo! wut was that bluemarker you usEd 2 write blackbook?!?
1st: point don't focus on cool extra embellishments
2nd: make sure your letters are the same size but at the same time you can make them different sizes
3rd: don't buy good quality pens to start off you have to use shit ones
4th: you can't draw the tag the way you want
5th: you can't create detailed tags in the comfort in your own home
tip #4 improved my writing by 100%
great lesson mate, keep it up!
thanks man, will do!
Graffiti is graffiti period ur style is what u make it there is no correct way as long as ur consistent and u kill everything I've seen toys kill downtown LA and I cant hate but congratulate
This fools styles are lame af but his logic behind his message is on point
It's supposed to be lame. Can't show toys how to tag with letters they can't read.
funny how that worked out huh
I can see your point, I don’t really like some of his letters (his f and e namely). But I think the simplicity helps for toys to read it. But yeah, he knows what he’s saying.
Really difficult to switch from formal calligraphy to freehand graffiti. I feel like I need some graffiti fonts to practice. What should I do?
you should be able to do a tag with ur eyes closed consistently. its about muscle memory and feeling, its the opposite of calligraphy. just tag paper over and over and you'll get the feeling for it, dont get pulled in by fonts or trying to make ur tag perfect
good handstyle bro
Nice wholesome comment bro
I think graffiti has some rules like no writing on cars, Its okey but how do you write tags and what colors do you chose is on you or not? So what graffiti is about when you have rules like this (again, i don't count where you schould not tag or paint graffiti)
Biggest mistake... Add crowns above your tags
Your just not a king at what you do
Whats better to write on vinyl, sharpie/permenent markers or paint markers?
Expected this to be another horrible generic graffiti channel but I gotta agree on most of the stuff u say.
Keep it up dude
I mean, maybe I just suck at this but I quite liked the fat marker "ink" tag [without the Embellishments]
I had to change my name 'slac' to something else because someome better than me was using the name
Lmao my first tag was slack
Hoodie here
im new coming into this and it helped a lot! im coming in from a drawing perspective so the sketch tip really helped
Toys teaching toys…….internet ruined graff😢
ur jus tryna sound hard b quiet fr
@@jio.2l00 lol internet warrior. This exactly what I mean. Na bro its shit end of sorry
@@deadstarlondon 😂
rn im trying my alphabet and imma try to listen to all these in the future
Yo do you have a Instagram? If so can add extra tips for handstyles .
XeuyTkeuiTrauiT 1's yeah man insta is @thegrafflounge. Might make another video soon with more tips