What I find the saddest thing of all is that when Katherine finally was able to marry the great love of her life he turned out to be such a disappointment. I can’t imagine the heartbreak she must’ve felt!
By the time Henry married Katherine, he was in need of a companion and nurse. Catherine was a loyal and dedicated wife and queen. A perfect wife for Henry, at this point in his life. It was a sacrifice on her part as she was a vital and attractive woman, who could have easily gotten a husband. She and Henry were friends and treated each other with respect. She was a wonderful stepmother. And a good queen and wife. Thomas Seymour was a dirty dog and his downfall was inevitable. He didn't love Katherine, he used her. His dalliance with Princess Elizabeth under Katherine's roof caused so much heartache that as she lay dying, she threw it in his face. Their child eventually was given to the Duchess of Suffolk to raise. Although the duchess was allegedly a long time friend of Katherine's, she resented the responsibility and the child. And was not a kind guardian, treating the poor child like a burden she did not want. The baby must have died while still a toddler, as she seemed to have disappeared from history with no record of what happened to her. Katherine Parr deserves respect. How she was treated in and after life, was heartbreaking.
melissa gibson, every word of your comment is on point! Couldn't agree more! Katherine was a remarkable woman. I love her for bringing all the children together her! Before marrying Katherine, all three were in separate households. Bless her for being like a real mom to them. Especially, Elizabeth. Elizabeth was a victim of Lord Seymour too. He was a true cad.
" She and Henry were friends and treated each other with respect." Other than that time he nearly executed her for treason, and then pranked her by having the warrant served on her anyways just to fuck with her, sure.
@@Visplight Bishop Gardiner was trying to get her executed because he was trying to root out heretics ( protestants). Henry knew it. He allowed the warrant to be drawn up and served to frightened her. Before it could be served she found out and got upset and emotional. Henry interviewed her in front of her accusers. She humbled herself and defended herself with good sense. He forgave her and that was that. Bishop Gardiner was banished from court. Henry trusted her to reign in his absence and he left her a very wealthy woman. Do you think he would have if she were not his friend? If he wanted her dead he would have had her executed.
@@melissagibson3712 No idea what goes on in your psychotic circles, but where I'm from, friends don't trick friends into thinking you're going to kill them.
She seemed to be so good to her step children, whether royalty or not. She was also a strong, and intelligent woman. Her daughter would have been a force to be reckon with, had Katherine been able to raise her.
Poor Katherine! Henry swooped in on her right away. A very beautiful woman! Its awesome that she was so close with her stepchildren. Its hard to do. We should all be more grateful for our lives now. Living back then was hard work, shear Hell!
I can well imagine why Catherine was interested in Seymour, if the Holbein drawing really is of him. A looker. And probably charming. But, also (as Elizabeth approximately said), a man of much wit and little wisdom.
I love Katherine Parr, so thank you for this Her influence on those around her cannot be measured. I love it that she was intelligent, a published author, and a woman of faith and courage. She was a woman who could love and bond with others. I feel sad that she didn't live long enough to protect and provide for her baby daughter. Something murky happened to that baby. Seymour sounds like a Narcissist, in that he was charming and once he'd married Katherine he got bored and was getting attention from other sources, namely the child Princess Elizabeth. He was grooming her from what I can read. What a creep! Looking to upgrade already, while his beautiful and adoring wife is pregnant. He seems to have felt no empathy for his daughter, and no bond with her after her mother's death.
@@KatMcKiv I am not so sure about that. I did read that she held Elizabeth in the garden while Seymour cut her black velvet dress with with a sword, and when Elizabeth managed to get away she ran through the Kitchen very upset but wouldn't (or couldn't?) answer the Cook when asked what on earth had happened to her dress. I have read various comments sometimes by people who thought that Elizabeth was a satanist and had dark occult symbols carved on her body. I believe any scars were inflicted by Seymour in the garden that day. Also that he convinced Catherine that Elizabeth had somehow tempted him beyond his resistance. I could be wrong and maybe there was another side to Catherine. Many abusers have always been able to appear as if next to angelic, particularly females. Can I ask why you believe she also abused Elizabeth? I haven't read a lot about them. Only the book "The Queen's Secret Agent" (or a similar title) about Frances Walsingham. I am mostly interested in social history and ancient history, you see, so am always even more willing to learn from others on areas I don't usually read or listen about.
Wow... This was FASCINATING. My current House of Tudor obsession had not yet brought me to stumble upon this information - not sure I easily would have! Well done :)
Their daughter was given to Katherine Willoughby, the duchess of suffolk. It is said that the duchess resented being burdened with the responsibility of the child, and didn't treat her well. Though there is nothing recording her death, historians believe the girl, named Mary, died in early childhood, because there are things to be found recording her existence, then, nothing. So, she must've died.
Finding her body in a "incorrupted" skin white, and moist. wrapped up in that cloth. Was that something that was done to purposely prevent decay? I've never heard of this sort of thing done in England.
Am I to understand that there is actual hair from Catherine, stashed away under glass in some sort of locket? Just think, if so a DNA sample might be taken from it. Wouldn’t that be interesting! It is, however, terrible that her grave and remains were so horribly treated. Lovely that she now has a proper resting place, affording her the respect she is due.
I am a Parr decendant. Katherine is my 16x great Aunt. One thing most people never mention is that Katherine was also a decendant of John of Gaunt thru her mother Maud Green and her Neville ancestors. Katherine and Henry were probably 3rd or 4th cousins.
Hi cousin..LOL, I am also related to Catherine Parr. I am directly related to the PLANTAGENETS. Catherine's grandmother was ELIZABETH FITZHUGH (Thomas Parr's mother) Elizabeth FitzHugh was my 14th Great Grandmother through the Neville line. Elizabeth's mother was Alice Neville (the King Makers sister. So we are related through the same line. How far back have you gone with your ancestor's line? I have gone as far as William the Conqueror, on one line, and Rollo the Viking, and Fulk, King of Jerusalem..Also through King Edward ll, and Queen Isabella of France, we have a lot of the French Kings as well. I have gone to England twice, doing RESEARCH on our ANCESTORS...Nice to meet you. My name is Judy and I live in Fresno California. I am almost 74 years old. I would love to go back to England and stay for about a month. Love it there. Keep in touch. Here is my email: janstess86@gmail.com
Catherine was also a decendant of John of GAUNT through her father, as well. Through her father's mother, Elizabeth Fitzhugh..Elizabeth's mother was Alice Neville. Alice's father was Richard Neville. Richard's mother was Joan Beafort and his father was Ralph Neville..Joan Beafort was the youngest daughter of JOHN OF GAUNT AND KATHERINE SWYNFORD..And of course John Of GAUNT was the son of King Edward lll. Interesting, huh?
I've heard posited the possibility that he suffered from a TBI (traumatic brain injury) from the multiple concussions he suffered earlier in life. The change in character, the deterioration of his mental state, his aggression & impulsiveness, mercurial temper, etc., do appear to fit the profile. There have been similar occurrences with boxers & NFL players diagnosed with TBI's from repeated head injuries. It's an interesting theory if nothing else!
Good thing she first married Henry Viii and not Thomas Seymour. She lived a few more years, Thomas was a lost cause. He never deserved her. I wish she had married someone who would have loved and cared for her till old age. As for her afterlife, it's a sin to disturb the dead and takeout their possessions.
This was quite interesting and informative. I’ve always been a history junkie … the Tudor Reign was kind of a violent and ugly time in history, it’s rather scary… yet fascinating. I didn’t get a lot of this in school.
I like you video but is there anyway it could be louder? I had my volume cranked and could barely hear you. It seems you are.soft spoken so perhaps you could turn up the volume when you record?
🤭 I can't help but think of Catherine having given the Catholic church that so maligned her a "take that" and a snap of her fingers after death. For those uninformed "incorruptable" is something they claim is a sign of sainthood.
This is absolutly fascinating and sad! But may I ask; why were people so interested in her remains? Was it her religion that made people want to desecrate her grave? Fill me in!! Thank you for this vid!
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 thank you so much for your reply, ms. Tami! That makes so much sense. And that's also very sad. But with 100s of years eventually bad ppl will come around. Especially as Europe grappled with how much power the common people would allow the royals to have over the years. So interesting about the account of her body being perfectly preserved... I need to brush up on my protestant beliefs, but in Catholicism that would have put her in the running to become a saint, if I'm not mistaken.
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 One of my bro in laws once said that if everyone was the same colour,build,height,eyes,hair length,accent,there would still b some jerks to find something to point to & fight over.Civilized my foot!!!!!
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 Very good points raised there.Our Kit once told a friend that "Gramma tried to turn us all into good little Baptists,& failed miserably!"
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 Great reply sister & I will happily hold your jacket.That is a question I have been asking for years.Superior species my foot.I do archaeology & historical research & some of the cruelty,& stupidity you find is unbelievable!Nice talking to you.
Hello all..I just love MIDIEVIL HISTORY. I am directly related to the PLANTAGENETS. I find the life of Catherine Parr's life very intriguing, as well. Catherine and I share GRANDMOTHERS. My 14th Great Grandmother was Lady Elizabeth Fitzhugh, who was married to William Parr. Their son was Sir Thomas Parr (Catherine's father)..I wish, like many others, that we could find out what happened to Lady Mary Seymour (Catherine's only child)..Here's what I have heard from reading many articles on the subject. I know that Lady Mary was left for Katherin Willoughby to raise. I know it was a financial burden on her, since they would not release Thomas Seymour's estate to Katherine Willoughby, after Thomas was beheaded. Not much is known about what happened to Lady Mary, but I read somewhere, (wish I could find that article again) that Lady Mary Seymour was still with Katherine until she was about 3 years old. No other information on Lady Mary after that. I read that it is thought that Katherine had left a young child with a note, at the gate of Sir Knight Thomas LeStrange and his wife, Lady Anne Vaux-LeStrange ..Here is why I think that this is a real possibility..1) Katherine Willoughby was one of Catherine's best friends 2) Anne Vaux-Lestrange was Lady Elizabeth FitzHugh's daughter, and stepsister of Thomas Parr. Catherine and her AUNT ANNE VAUX grew up in the same family. There was only about 18 years difference between Anne Vaux and her niece, Catherine Parr. Since Katherine Willoughby was very close to Catherine Parr, there is a really good chance that she also knew Anne Vaux. What a better/safer place to leave Lady Mary with. Sir Knight Thomas LeStrange and his wife, Anne Vaux were WELL OFF, and lived in Hunstanton (Norfolk) which was far away from where Catherine Parr lived, which made it safer for her daughter to live there, with Catherine's Aunt Anne. In thos days, it was a real possibility that Lady Mary could be looked at as a threat to the Throne. So if she was far away, and no one knew who she was, she would be able to blend in the Anne Vaux and Thomas LeStrange 's household. Anne and Thomas were the parents of 16 children of their own. I don't know if anyone will ever really know, but it sure is possible. Sir Knight Thomas LeStrange was ESQUIRE OF THE BODY TO KING HENRY VIII. Sir Thomas was a very close friend of Henry Vlll and was visited by the king when they moved to Hunstanton, Norfolk. Perhaps someday we will learn what really happened to Lady Mary Seymour, but it is somewhat nice to imagine that she lived a long and health and happy life.
I’m never sure why these posts are titled ‘The afterlife of….’. The word ‘Afterlife’ refers to the soul’s survival after physical death. Very misleading.
Mary Seymore survived and married Matthew Locke. These people are my 11th X great grand parents. Later in generations they were to marry into the family ROLPH, which is a direct decendant from Pocahontas.
Thanks for this I think she deserved a better life the only two good things that came out was her marriage of love to thomas seymour and her daughter mary.
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What I find the saddest thing of all is that when Katherine finally was able to marry the great love of her life he turned out to be such a disappointment. I can’t imagine the heartbreak she must’ve felt!
I so agree.
By the time Henry married Katherine, he was in need of a companion and nurse. Catherine was a loyal and dedicated wife and queen. A perfect wife for Henry, at this point in his life. It was a sacrifice on her part as she was a vital and attractive woman, who could have easily gotten a husband. She and Henry were friends and treated each other with respect. She was a wonderful stepmother. And a good queen and wife. Thomas Seymour was a dirty dog and his downfall was inevitable. He didn't love Katherine, he used her. His dalliance with Princess Elizabeth under Katherine's roof caused so much heartache that as she lay dying, she threw it in his face. Their child eventually was given to the Duchess of Suffolk to raise. Although the duchess was allegedly a long time friend of Katherine's, she resented the responsibility and the child. And was not a kind guardian, treating the poor child like a burden she did not want. The baby must have died while still a toddler, as she seemed to have disappeared from history with no record of what happened to her. Katherine Parr deserves respect. How she was treated in and after life, was heartbreaking.
melissa gibson, every word of your comment is on point! Couldn't agree more! Katherine was a remarkable woman. I love her for bringing all the children together her! Before marrying Katherine, all three were in separate households. Bless her for being like a real mom to them. Especially, Elizabeth. Elizabeth was a victim of Lord Seymour too. He was a true cad.
@@reneenayfabnaynay5679 Thanks. I am fascinated by the Tudor period and I enjoy learning about them.
" She and Henry were friends and treated each other with respect." Other than that time he nearly executed her for treason, and then pranked her by having the warrant served on her anyways just to fuck with her, sure.
@@Visplight Bishop Gardiner was trying to get her executed because he was trying to root out heretics ( protestants). Henry knew it. He allowed the warrant to be drawn up and served to frightened her. Before it could be served she found out and got upset and emotional. Henry interviewed her in front of her accusers. She humbled herself and defended herself with good sense. He forgave her and that was that. Bishop Gardiner was banished from court. Henry trusted her to reign in his absence and he left her a very wealthy woman. Do you think he would have if she were not his friend? If he wanted her dead he would have had her executed.
@@melissagibson3712 No idea what goes on in your psychotic circles, but where I'm from, friends don't trick friends into thinking you're going to kill them.
It’s nice to see someone delivering actual facts, in a well presented manner. I feel very happy one can tell the proper story.
Should I call Henry Fitzroy and Queen Elizabeth of York ?
This is the best series on British history thank you 💕
IT'S A MIDIEVIL SOAP OPERA..
She seemed to be so good to her step children, whether royalty or not. She was also a strong, and intelligent woman. Her daughter would have been a force to be reckon with, had Katherine been able to raise her.
Survived Henry to lose her life giving birth to a girl that also died a few years later. She was loved by the Royal children.
Poor Katherine! Henry swooped in on her right away. A very beautiful woman! Its awesome that she was so close with her stepchildren. Its hard to do. We should all be more grateful for our lives now. Living back then was hard work, shear Hell!
I can well imagine why Catherine was interested in Seymour, if the Holbein drawing really is of him. A looker. And probably charming. But, also (as Elizabeth approximately said), a man of much wit and little wisdom.
I love Katherine Parr, so thank you for this
Her influence on those around her cannot be measured.
I love it that she was intelligent, a published author, and a woman of faith and courage. She was a woman who could love and bond with others.
I feel sad that she didn't live long enough to protect and provide for her baby daughter. Something murky happened to that baby. Seymour sounds like a Narcissist, in that he was charming and once he'd married Katherine he got bored and was getting attention from other sources, namely the child Princess Elizabeth.
He was grooming her from what I can read.
What a creep!
Looking to upgrade already, while his beautiful and adoring wife is pregnant. He seems to have felt no empathy for his daughter, and no bond with her after her mother's death.
She helped him abuse Elizabeth.
@@KatMcKiv I am not so sure about that. I did read that she held Elizabeth in the garden while Seymour cut her black velvet dress with with a sword, and when Elizabeth managed to get away she ran through the Kitchen very upset but wouldn't (or couldn't?) answer the Cook when asked what on earth had happened to her dress.
I have read various comments sometimes by people who thought that Elizabeth was a satanist and had dark occult symbols carved on her body. I believe any scars were inflicted by Seymour in the garden that day. Also that he convinced Catherine that Elizabeth had somehow tempted him beyond his resistance.
I could be wrong and maybe there was another side to Catherine. Many abusers have always been able to appear as if next to angelic, particularly females. Can I ask why you believe she also abused Elizabeth? I haven't read a lot about them. Only the book "The Queen's Secret Agent" (or a similar title) about Frances Walsingham. I am mostly interested in social history and ancient history, you see, so am always even more willing to learn from others on areas I don't usually read or listen about.
Wow... This was FASCINATING. My current House of Tudor obsession had not yet brought me to stumble upon this information - not sure I easily would have! Well done :)
All I knew about Katherine was that she was plain, and kind. Thanks for this interesting video. Leaned a lot today. She was a wonderful lady.
Poor Katherine. Seymour was a horrible man. I think their daughter was abandoned. I do think that their portraits change so much.
Their daughter was given to Katherine Willoughby, the duchess of suffolk.
It is said that the duchess resented being burdened with the responsibility of the child, and didn't treat her well.
Though there is nothing recording her death, historians believe the girl, named Mary, died in early childhood, because there are things to be found recording her existence, then, nothing. So, she must've died.
@@reneenayfabnaynay5679 Poor thing, how sad. Forgotten and not wanted.
@@britusman I know. It just breaks my heart. That's why I don't care for Katherine W too much. She could've just loved that lil girl like her own.
@@reneenayfabnaynay5679 Absolutely
@@reneenayfabnaynay5679 You care for your friend's child. That she didn't does not speak for her too much...
Finding her body in a "incorrupted" skin white, and moist. wrapped up in that cloth. Was that something that was done to purposely prevent decay? I've never heard of this sort of thing done in England.
It wasn’t done as common practice that I’m aware of, but for some reason it was for poor Katherine.
I’m wondering if the lead coffin and being sealed away from the elements helped to preserve her body and prevent decay till it was opened.
@@tabby5228 this is the line taken at Sudeley Castle where she lived and was buried . The accounts of her life and and artefacts are very interesting
@@tabby5228 I'd not be surprised as the oxidisation was part of face whitening make up of the era, somite quite possible
@@tabby5228 Plus the cloth that was soaked in wax. Wax (along with tallow/fat) was used as a preservative with food to keep the air out.
So glad I found your channel! I really enjoy the info you share & that it’s not full of speculation like so many other history channels.
I think Henry had had a thing for redheads. Just look at the wife line up.
Who doesn’t?
I like redheads too 😍
Anne Boleyn had black hair
Well, they were all distantly related, so no surprises there.
@@ThePlataf I don’t think Catherine of Aragon was related to any of them.
'Her griddle was of gold'
I think you mean 'girdle' 😂
I thought the word was 'bridle'.
I believe it's kirtle -- a medieval term for a bodice, or type of belt.
@@pattifriend6676 correct
She might have had a gold griddle.
Katherine was well to do, after all.
Mine's covered in toast crumbs.😁
It is girdle, a type of long belt with hanging parts
Beautifully read facts. Excellent bravo.
Thank you for a considered and factual video!
If you don't mind my saying, you also have very clear diction.
at 10;20--"her griddle was of gold". it's GIRDLE.
Am I to understand that there is actual hair from Catherine, stashed away under glass in some sort of locket? Just think, if so a DNA sample might be taken from it. Wouldn’t that be interesting! It is, however, terrible that her grave and remains were so horribly treated. Lovely that she now has a proper resting place, affording her the respect she is due.
For crying out loud people, let the body be.
I am a Parr decendant. Katherine is my 16x great Aunt. One thing most people never mention is that Katherine was also a decendant of John of Gaunt thru her mother Maud Green and her Neville ancestors. Katherine and Henry were probably 3rd or 4th cousins.
Hi cousin..LOL, I am also related to Catherine Parr. I am directly related to the PLANTAGENETS. Catherine's grandmother was ELIZABETH FITZHUGH (Thomas Parr's mother) Elizabeth FitzHugh was my 14th Great Grandmother through the Neville line. Elizabeth's mother was Alice Neville (the King Makers sister. So we are related through the same line. How far back have you gone with your ancestor's line? I have gone as far as William the Conqueror, on one line, and Rollo the Viking, and Fulk, King of Jerusalem..Also through King Edward ll, and Queen Isabella of France, we have a lot of the French Kings as well. I have gone to England twice, doing RESEARCH on our ANCESTORS...Nice to meet you. My name is Judy and I live in Fresno California. I am almost 74 years old. I would love to go back to England and stay for about a month. Love it there. Keep in touch. Here is my email: janstess86@gmail.com
Catherine was also a decendant of John of GAUNT through her father, as well. Through her father's mother, Elizabeth Fitzhugh..Elizabeth's mother was Alice Neville. Alice's father was Richard Neville. Richard's mother was Joan Beafort and his father was Ralph Neville..Joan Beafort was the youngest daughter of JOHN OF GAUNT AND KATHERINE SWYNFORD..And of course John Of GAUNT was the son of King Edward lll. Interesting, huh?
Here come the bots descendants of "royal" 😂
She was actually named after Catherine of Aragon.
*I love the video but the audio is too low*
The older Henry was an absolute monster and most likely suffering from dementia and that wound on his leg that never healed.
I've heard posited the possibility that he suffered from a TBI (traumatic brain injury) from the multiple concussions he suffered earlier in life. The change in character, the deterioration of his mental state, his aggression & impulsiveness, mercurial temper, etc., do appear to fit the profile.
There have been similar occurrences with boxers & NFL players diagnosed with TBI's from repeated head injuries. It's an interesting theory if nothing else!
@@obcl8569 Syphillis also causes mental degradation
@@vixxie2680 it does... But I've never seen anything claiming he suffered from Syphilis?
Henry was 55 when he died, not sure if he had dementia at the age but possible with early onset since he had so many health problems.
@@obcl8569 ....TBI explains a lot. To me, it makes the most sense historically.
Wonderful video!! Thank you
Haha you accidentally said griddle instead of girdle
I’m just imagining a VERY fancy pancake maker 😋😂
I would have liked to listen to this but only the ads came through loud and clear.
Nicely done, and if anyone gets a chance to visit sudeley castle, please do, it's a beautiful place and the lady's tomb poignant
What county?I would love to visit.I believe it's Sudley she is supposed to haunt.
@@susanmccormick6022Sudeley castle is in the Cotswolds, Gloucestershire
Thank you for mentioning Gainsborough! It’s my home town and it always gets passed over 🥺
Good thing she first married Henry Viii and not Thomas Seymour. She lived a few more years, Thomas was a lost cause. He never deserved her. I wish she had married someone who would have loved and cared for her till old age. As for her afterlife, it's a sin to disturb the dead and takeout their possessions.
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I'm new to your channel and I love it!! ❤️ Very enlightening and beautifully presented 🥰
(Why did you say 'griddle' instead of 'girdle'? )
Not wishing to be pedantic but the picture on the left is the 14 year old Elizabeth
In addition, the drawing is of K's brother William, not Thomas the father. It says William in the drawing.
0:49 if that castle is still there, I'm gonna live there for the rest of my life. 🥰😍🥰
Very good presentation
This was quite interesting and informative. I’ve always been a history junkie … the Tudor Reign was kind of a violent and ugly time in history, it’s rather scary… yet fascinating. I didn’t get a lot of this in school.
Wow. Amazing and very sad.
My ancestors served under Parr/King Henry 8th as knights.
The exgamation…? I think you meant to say exhumation. I literally paused to check google to see if you were just saying a word I’d not heard yet lol
i very much enjoy your stories
I like you video but is there anyway it could be louder? I had my volume cranked and could barely hear you. It seems you are.soft spoken so perhaps you could turn up the volume when you record?
🤭 I can't help but think of Catherine having given the Catholic church that so maligned her a "take that" and a snap of her fingers after death. For those uninformed "incorruptable" is something they claim is a sign of sainthood.
It's all a matter of taste,but what did those women see in Seymour?Awful man.
This is absolutly fascinating and sad! But may I ask; why were people so interested in her remains? Was it her religion that made people want to desecrate her grave? Fill me in!! Thank you for this vid!
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 thank you so much for your reply, ms. Tami! That makes so much sense. And that's also very sad. But with 100s of years eventually bad ppl will come around. Especially as Europe grappled with how much power the common people would allow the royals to have over the years.
So interesting about the account of her body being perfectly preserved... I need to brush up on my protestant beliefs, but in Catholicism that would have put her in the running to become a saint, if I'm not mistaken.
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 One of my bro in laws once said that if everyone was the same colour,build,height,eyes,hair length,accent,there would still b some jerks to find something to point to & fight over.Civilized my foot!!!!!
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 Very good points raised there.Our Kit once told a friend that "Gramma tried to turn us all into good little Baptists,& failed miserably!"
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 Great reply sister & I will happily hold your jacket.That is a question I have been asking for years.Superior species my foot.I do archaeology & historical research & some of the cruelty,& stupidity you find is unbelievable!Nice talking to you.
Hello all..I just love MIDIEVIL HISTORY. I am directly related to the PLANTAGENETS. I find the life of Catherine Parr's life very intriguing, as well. Catherine and I share GRANDMOTHERS.
My 14th Great Grandmother was Lady Elizabeth Fitzhugh, who was married to William Parr. Their son was Sir Thomas Parr (Catherine's father)..I wish, like many others, that we could find out what happened to Lady Mary Seymour (Catherine's only child)..Here's what I have heard from reading many articles on the subject. I know that Lady Mary was left for Katherin Willoughby to raise. I know it was a financial burden on her, since they would not release Thomas Seymour's estate to Katherine Willoughby, after Thomas was beheaded. Not much is known about what happened to Lady Mary, but I read somewhere, (wish I could find that article again) that Lady Mary Seymour was still with Katherine until she was about 3 years old. No other information on Lady Mary after that. I read that it is thought that Katherine had left a young child with a note, at the gate of Sir Knight Thomas LeStrange and his wife, Lady Anne Vaux-LeStrange ..Here is why I think that this is a real possibility..1) Katherine Willoughby was one of Catherine's best friends 2) Anne Vaux-Lestrange was Lady Elizabeth FitzHugh's daughter, and stepsister of Thomas Parr. Catherine and her AUNT ANNE VAUX grew up in the same family. There was only about 18 years difference between Anne Vaux and her niece, Catherine Parr. Since Katherine Willoughby was very close to Catherine Parr, there is a really good chance that she also knew Anne Vaux. What a better/safer place to leave Lady Mary with. Sir Knight Thomas LeStrange and his wife, Anne Vaux were WELL OFF, and lived in
Hunstanton (Norfolk) which was far away from where Catherine Parr lived, which made it safer for her daughter to live there, with Catherine's Aunt Anne. In thos days, it was a real possibility that Lady Mary could be looked at as a threat to the Throne. So if she was far away, and no one knew who she was, she would be able to blend in the Anne Vaux and Thomas LeStrange 's household. Anne and Thomas were the parents of 16 children of their own. I don't know if anyone will ever really know, but it sure is possible. Sir Knight Thomas LeStrange was ESQUIRE OF THE BODY TO KING HENRY VIII. Sir Thomas was a very close friend of Henry Vlll and was visited by the king when they moved to Hunstanton, Norfolk. Perhaps someday we will learn what really happened to Lady Mary Seymour, but it is somewhat nice to imagine that she lived a long and health and happy life.
Sooner or later the body would either turn to a skeleton or no one would know better.
I’m never sure why these posts are titled ‘The afterlife of….’. The word ‘Afterlife’ refers to the soul’s survival after physical death. Very misleading.
Thank you.
I hate graves being desecrated. Whether those of Stonehenge, those in paupers graves or of Royals.
Jeez, no wonder there are said to be so many ghost in England with all of these grave desecrations...
So sad that this sweet queen was so abused.
Mary Seymore survived and married Matthew Locke. These people are my 11th X great grand parents. Later in generations they were to marry into the family ROLPH, which is a direct decendant from Pocahontas.
It looks like she was a very beautiful woman.
Thanks for this I think she deserved a better life the only two good things that came out was her marriage of love to thomas seymour and her daughter mary.
We have brought Anna von Kleve to life. In a 3D film and as an animated augmented reality model.ruclips.net/video/ZmCxOIgMqnw/видео.html . We could do the same for Catherine Parr.
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Harry Potter much?
catherine howard had it the best
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