I instinctively clapped in my room after the lecture, even if I am not there and this is only a video, it just show how good of a lecturer this woman is.
Thank you so very much! What a very gripping and interesting story. Much more real than was romanticised in the TV Series. What an amazing couple both Anne's were and what a tragic ending to their controversial and adventurous lives. Thank to you and other historians, they will never be forgotten.
Nice talk, more people writing about Anne the better I believe, but Helena Whitbread has already put out two books from her 30 years of research of Anne Listers Journals...she even including the decoded parts
Ann Walker wasn’t given Shibden. She was given a life interest, meaning she could live the rest of her life there. Lister left the estate to distant cousins. Probably to keep it in the family and away from Walker’s greedy tribe.
She was an early feminist and maybe one of the first in England. Per Britannica on history of feminism: In medieval France philosopher Christine de Pisan (1364 - 1430) challenged the social restrictions on women and pushed for women’s education. In 18th-century England Mary Wollstonecraft’s A Vindication of the Rights of Woman became a seminal work of English-language feminist philosophy. Feminism in the United States had a number of prominent activists during the mid- to late-19th century. Notable mainstream activists included Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and Susan B. Anthony. Less mainstream but similarly important views came from Sojourner Truth, a formerly enslaved Black woman, and Emma Goldman, the nation’s leading anarchist during the late 19th century. So - women have been fighting for equal rights for a VERY long time. More attention needs to be made to all these brave women (and men) seeking equality for women.
I wish we could have seen the pictures as she talked But it was a fascinating talk it makes me want to research the story and travel round Europe Africa and Asia as Georgia is bang in the middle
Thank you for a terrifically informative talk. I hope to make a public sculpture of Anne Lister for Shibden Hall, so your comments about her clothing are very useful indeed.
I just visited Anne’s lister home and was so inspiring to walk among what it was her place and a huge part of her story. There’s is very little information about the Walker family and if in fact they took shebden hall once Anne Walker was forced to leave to a mental institution in York. I would like to know if there are still listers relatives a life? I live just next to Halifax so this is all deeply interesting to me. Ironically, the place is now visited by many people, particularly lesbians and I can’t help to wonder how Anne lister may feel about that (if she was able to see us today). The saying “if walls could talk” has never been more relevant since the diary was hidden between a cupboard and a wall. Fascinating stuff!
Oh! She is watching. And much to my surprise, and yet an honor, that she visited me in spirit and told me I was to fat and I told her she was to short. 😆
Can you say where you read the information you gave that Walker went back to Moscow where Lister was temporarily buried? What source was this information found in? Thank you.
My computer substituted different words for what I actually wrote. This is a correction that restores what I actually wrote: " Apparently the only reason why people are interested in this woman is that she was a lesbian and promiscuous. Many contemporary lesbians and/or feminists feel her diaries validate thier lifestyles."
This was fascinating to watch, but the people chattering away while this engaging lady spoke were really ill mannered and rude. Unless, of course, my ears were deceiving me and the incessant chatter was coming from somewhere else in the building?
Now madam...Im gonna give this presenter some grace, but there are some inaccuracies in her take on the relationship with Anne and Ann. This was 2016 in fact so she wouldn't have access to all the transcribed parts of the diaries esp after Ann and Anne got married. I love how when a woman courts a woman its described as seduction, but when a man does it is courting. The presenter missed the context at the time. Men and women got married for money and property. They way shes presenting Anne Lister as if the men of the 18th and 19 century weren't doing the same thing with their wives. smh
I'll have to re-watch this video but I didn't get that impression. AL was definitely a player. Lol. The presenter mentions that AL seemed to want the same access to AW's money that a male husband would have had. She definitely pursued AW and apparently all the women she had relations with. "Seduced" isn't necessarily negative. Being seductive is to be alluring - sexually and romantically attractive, right? It can be done with ulterior motives, of course. And it seems AL had a mix of emotions & motives when pursuing / seducing AW. She was a trailblazer but not a saint. Lol
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I instinctively clapped in my room after the lecture, even if I am not there and this is only a video, it just show how good of a lecturer this woman is.
I do that too. 😁
Enjoyed Prof. Steidele's insightful lecture so much.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for the excellent lecture
Thank you so very much! What a very gripping and interesting story. Much more real than was romanticised in the TV Series. What an amazing couple both Anne's were and what a tragic ending to their controversial and adventurous lives. Thank to you and other historians, they will never be forgotten.
Nice talk, more people writing about Anne the better I believe, but Helena Whitbread has already put out two books from her 30 years of research of Anne Listers Journals...she even including the decoded parts
Thankfully she deciphered the code!
Found this very interesting thankyou,Anne Lister and Ann Walker were an amazing couple,so sad things ended up in tragic circumstances.
Ann Walker wasn’t given Shibden. She was given a life interest, meaning she could live the rest of her life there. Lister left the estate to distant cousins. Probably to keep it in the family and away from Walker’s greedy tribe.
Brilliant lecture. Totally obsessed with Anna Lister’s life. She was first feminist! Extraordinary woman. Not afraid of anything
She was an early feminist and maybe one of the first in England. Per Britannica on history of feminism:
In medieval France philosopher Christine de Pisan (1364 - 1430) challenged the social restrictions on women and pushed for women’s education. In 18th-century England Mary Wollstonecraft’s A Vindication of the Rights of Woman became a seminal work of English-language feminist philosophy. Feminism in the United States had a number of prominent activists during the mid- to late-19th century. Notable mainstream activists included Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and Susan B. Anthony. Less mainstream but similarly important views came from Sojourner Truth, a formerly enslaved Black woman, and Emma Goldman, the nation’s leading anarchist during the late 19th century.
So - women have been fighting for equal rights for a VERY long time. More attention needs to be made to all these brave women (and men) seeking equality for women.
What a terribly sad ending😥
Very touching herstories.Thanks
I'm completely entranced by her.
I will so buy your to come book
I wish we could have seen the pictures as she talked
But it was a fascinating talk it makes me want to research the story and travel round Europe Africa and Asia as Georgia is bang in the middle
I highly reccomend Angela's book
Thank you for a terrifically informative talk. I hope to make a public sculpture of Anne Lister for Shibden Hall, so your comments about her clothing are very useful indeed.
Wao, have you done it? That’ll be so great!
Very interesting, some minor inaccuracies but nevertheless very good. Pity the audience persistently talks amongst themselves throughout.
So interesting
I just visited Anne’s lister home and was so inspiring to walk among what it was her place and a huge part of her story.
There’s is very little information about the Walker family and if in fact they took shebden hall once Anne Walker was forced to leave to a mental institution in York.
I would like to know if there are still listers relatives a life? I live just next to Halifax so this is all deeply interesting to me.
Ironically, the place is now visited by many people, particularly lesbians and I can’t help to wonder how Anne lister may feel about that (if she was able to see us today).
The saying “if walls could talk” has never been more relevant since the diary was hidden between a cupboard and a wall. Fascinating stuff!
Oh! She is watching. And much to my surprise, and yet an honor, that she visited me in spirit and told me I was to fat and I told her she was to short. 😆
angela you should give another talk. with better Technology. it would be great
What an amazing woman, so sad :(
Can you say where you read the information you gave that Walker went back to Moscow where Lister was temporarily buried? What source was this information found in? Thank you.
Thanks for very interesting lecture!
Why this video has no subtitles?
where has Angela gone
My computer substituted different words for what I actually wrote. This is a correction that restores what I actually wrote: " Apparently the only reason why people are interested in this woman is that she was a lesbian and promiscuous. Many contemporary lesbians and/or feminists feel her diaries validate thier lifestyles."
Спасибо. Переведите на русский не всё понять.
This was fascinating to watch, but the people chattering away while this engaging lady spoke were really ill mannered and rude. Unless, of course, my ears were deceiving me and the incessant chatter was coming from somewhere else in the building?
Now madam...Im gonna give this presenter some grace, but there are some inaccuracies in her take on the relationship with Anne and Ann. This was 2016 in fact so she wouldn't have access to all the transcribed parts of the diaries esp after Ann and Anne got married. I love how when a woman courts a woman its described as seduction, but when a man does it is courting. The presenter missed the context at the time. Men and women got married for money and property. They way shes presenting Anne Lister as if the men of the 18th and 19 century weren't doing the same thing with their wives. smh
I'll have to re-watch this video but I didn't get that impression. AL was definitely a player. Lol. The presenter mentions that AL seemed to want the same access to AW's money that a male husband would have had. She definitely pursued AW and apparently all the women she had relations with. "Seduced" isn't necessarily negative. Being seductive is to be alluring - sexually and romantically attractive, right? It can be done with ulterior motives, of course. And it seems AL had a mix of emotions & motives when pursuing / seducing AW. She was a trailblazer but not a saint. Lol
I wish the audience would shut up.