As Rajivji has described, Indian History has been tampered so much by the colonialists & the invaders who had burnt the major literatures which were collective heritage from time immemorial, what we are seeing today is only a tip of knowledge which was the hallmark of our ancient civilisation. It is high time that our history is rewritten in its correct perspective for our future generations. It was a great discussion & should be done more often. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
A genuine General and Ist time feeling proud of a General, Aiyarji if you visit British Era buildings ,bridges, even excavations you will find most of Architects n excavator names with their ranks as Capt, Col etc. Ist time I saw one of the genuine Officer, another name is Air Mshl Veer Narayan , a navigator who had a Navigation formulae for Air speeds known as Veer Narayan formulae ( I was told not read by my seniors when he visited Jalahalli Bengaluru as AOC in C in 84 / 85. A salute to Gen and very hearty Namaskar to you to put him on web.
Very interesting, informative and thought provoking session. Couldn't imagine it ended so fast 🙂 If we could have more elaborate sessions about Mohenjodaro and how some other locations of the Sindhu Saraswati Civilisation can be compared to nuclear explosions of recent past would be very interesting. The most amazing thing is that discussions with Narayanan Sir🙏 totally link up the entire sub continental landmass which truly awakens the nationalists amongst us who believe in the Indic Civilisation.
Quite revealing. Maj Genl has interpolated timeline of our history by at least 2000 years. Didn’t realise that an Army man can go so deep into history. I was baffled when I saw in Sankara Matam of Prayagraj that Adi Sankara was 2500 years old whereas the other history dated Him 600 to 700 CE. Some clarity has seeped in just now. This topic has to be discussed perpetually. V Prasanna
I watched this a couple of times. Wasn't easy to process the very 1st time. My fav guests are Desh Kapoor, Maj. Madan, R Rajagopalan, Shekhar Iyer, Abhijit Iyer-Mitra, Sumit Peer, Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan, Sridhar Chityala and many more. I'm wondering if Maj. Gen. Ragivji can tell us about Hindu Kush mountain. Would like to know when/what happened to Hindus. I think he is the type of person who talks with facts. 🙏for your hard work.
Very enlightening session !! A session which enables one to prepare well for a debate on the antiquity of our xovilzation ,get rid of the word Myth thrust upon us regarding our history of Ramayana and Mahabharat. Tracing thd course of Saraswati river is very important but sadly it is neglscted both in our history snd geography text books
Has anybody done any Pūrva paksha on why BHARATA became so weak that it disintegrated into small kingdoms and got plundered by a small disintegrated country like UK which is not even 20th of its size? What prevents us from going into the same situation again?
Economic power has always been at the core of our golden periods but also the cause for invasions along being naive. Now that we're rising economically again we have to be on guard. The vultures will come but united we can defend ourselves from the most dangerous enemies 🙏
I am sorry to say this - But, Indians today are not in a mood to introspect and accept any criticisms. The feeling of indian resurgence is blinding us. We want to hold on to our (imaginary, grandiose) greatness that happened 4000 years ago and kluge them in Modern times. How can we claim - ‘Mother of Democracy’ when we haven’t practiced Democracy for 4,000 years? We can easily find our answer by pondering why we turned the foreigner who came to trade into our Masters. We constantly blame them for ruling us instead of wondering why we didn’t fight for ourselves. Banning a Documentary (that we don’t like) is not a practice of Democracy.
Nilesh Neelkanth Oak using archaeo-astronomy techniques has arrived at some interesting dates for Indian antiquity. PGurus should try and get him to get his perspective. for example, among his claims is Rg Ved being at least 17,000 years old!
Hats off to your efforts. I'm sure Govt has bookmarked your details. Please don't bough down. I'm trying to propagate your views wherever whenever. Since you are Iyer ji....“Veer Madrassi, Addi Kollu, Addi Kollu, Addi Kollu !”
In majjhimnikaya Biddha mentioned about past Buddhas with whom he worked. The first he mentioned lived for 120 thousand years. It is mentioned in Wikipedia
1871 was when the British introduced the "caste system". Prior to that, we only had jati-varna. Their objective was to change India from a decentralised democracy (Dharma+kratu) to a centralized monarchy, on the lines of the monarchies of Europe.
I could easily listen for hours to the knowledge and insight of Rajiv ji on geopolitics esp with relation to Bharat. Edit : For things to have happened the way it's described it would have required high end technology and science in ancient past. Was there such technology as described in our Itihasa? Or is it all a "myth" as propagated by our colonial masters and their minions? Did it exist, what happened to that technology if it did exist? Was it wiped out in a flood or natural or man made catastrophy? Why can't we see signs of it in archaeological digs and reports of it in history books other than a few books mentioned? Was there a cover-up or is this a narrative buildup? The only way to clear such things is to fund archaeological digs and find out the TRUTH, whatever it may be - A super civilisation that declined or a normally evolving one that progressed. There are other books and videos on Younger-Dryas Event that let to a great worldwide flood. If that IS true AND it coincides with the timelines described then it's definitely a possibility of super civilisations collapsing and re-emerging from the devastation. But somebody has to do the research and excavations and connect and prove all this esp for Bharatvarsha. People don't change their minds easily as we trust many things blindly. Satyam Eva Jayate. 🙏🙏🙏
sir, with due respt the western can how could the establish our Indian History as they are only few 1000 years old and our Mahabharata / Ramayana is thousands & thousands years older than their civilization.
Fascinating episode 27:0831:33 I find the idea of nuclear a bit far fetched. But its possible to combine your two reasons of climate change & violent explosions into something more plausible. Volcanoes. If enough of them go off and this continues it can create the equivalent of a nuclear winter which can lead to crop failure over a period of time. Burning ash and rock ejected can be hurled high into the atmosphere and then descend further away and burn people. Dust in the atmosphere will lead to rain and cause sudden cooling. If some radioative material is present well there is your explanation. The only problem with this theory is finding evidence of during the time frame you are speaking about. That such events happened is beyond dispute but they took place millions of years ago. Think of the Deccan traps. The Deccan was violently volcanic and over an extended period in the earth's past. Non stop belching volcanoes. This is the reason there is so much granite to be found down south.
As an archaeologist specialized in Harappan civilization I don't agree with David Davenport's story of radiation at Mohenjo Daro. Vitrification is common at Harappan sites due to the high temperatures used for firing pottery, beads and metal working kilns. There are multiple reasons for the abandonment of this region including climate, collapse of trade and infrastructure. Migrations out of this region happened in waves until it became uninhabitable for a few centuries.
This talk expresses a view of chronology without much evidence. Nilesh Oak presents a view based on astronomical evidence, which is clinching. He further has multi-disciplinary evidence. If we start with his date for the MBH war, we can work out the date of commencement of kaliyuga.
Long back Will Durant wrote that Indian gave democracy. Panchayat is also a democratic aspect. But the democracy was much stronger as it had dharmic rulers. It is unfortunate and an irony that on one side we say that westerners messed up the history and on the other we still need their approval through their write ups. Idiots believe them instead of Bharat references.
Buddhist is not religion, it path of purification, Foundation is four noble truth, 1) Suffering- death, old age disease ... 2) reason for Suffering, 3) path to remove Suffering 4) if follow path - liberation from craving, wrong knowledge distribution, Buddha's knowledge First pillar is past births, himself, Second pillar, is knowledge of others rebirth.... Knowledge of universe.. He told history of his past 549 birth, which gives history of evolution of cosmos, 27 past Budhas history, It took him approximately 549 birth to evolve to reach this stage. He will not come back to this universe...mahaparinirvana. To become Buddha, he completed 10 parmi, 10 upparmi, 10 parmarth parmi, 5 mahadan, Anyone do this he will become Buddha, There no beginning point to this universe, no end point, it is cyclic, appearing and passing away, Future Buddhas are coming, Budhas discovery is Wrong knowledge is Foundation of suffering.... Complete Destruction of wrong knowledge, is complete destruction of suffering and rebirth, I have some experiment and experience in this regards.
I am not sure about this major general s thought on our timeline, bcoz first his some articles are not in favour of Indian army, 2nd his some articles glorified by leftist media like print n karwan. It doesn't matter what America accepted or not what India thinks n believes is more matter than West.
A defence analyst explains about our history is itself unique. Hope all people in high position are proud of our culture and history.
Gen. Narayan is a treasure source. Explosive content!
Thanks for the episode Shree as also for inviting General Rajiv to the discussion 🙏
Gen Rajiv is a soldier of sanatan itihas
This Man is one of the greatest INTELLECTS on ur show
A very educational session of our precious history so passionately explained by Gen Rajiv Narayan😊🙏🙏🙏
As Rajivji has described, Indian History has been tampered so much by the colonialists & the invaders who had burnt the major literatures which were collective heritage from time immemorial, what we are seeing today is only a tip of knowledge which was the hallmark of our ancient civilisation. It is high time that our history is rewritten in its correct perspective for our future generations. It was a great discussion & should be done more often. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Beautiful and knowledgeable chat show. Thank you both of you.
Comprehensively covered Rajiv! Treazure trove - one can dive, but our past is fathomless !
Must needed discussion. Please have such a on ancient India session at least once a week
Very humbling facts. Just realising how little we know about ourselves.
Marvelous presentation !! Major General Rajiv Narayanan should write a book on this subject.
Very interesting revelation of the facts, unknown to most of us. Please come up with many more such discussions.
A genuine General and Ist time feeling proud of a General, Aiyarji if you visit British Era buildings ,bridges, even excavations you will find most of Architects n excavator names with their ranks as Capt, Col etc. Ist time I saw one of the genuine Officer, another name is Air Mshl Veer Narayan , a navigator who had a Navigation formulae for Air speeds known as Veer Narayan formulae ( I was told not read by my seniors when he visited Jalahalli Bengaluru as AOC in C in 84 / 85. A salute to Gen and very hearty Namaskar to you to put him on web.
Sree Ji , you are all-time favourite 🙏🙏🙏
Very informative and thought provoking discussion
Wealth of Information
Both Rajiv Ji and Sree Iyer Ji are amazing for their knowledge and courage.
Beautiful discussion 👏🙏🙂❤️
Would like to hear more. Simply fascinating! Thank you…
Thank you for having this amazing session..
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Awesome!! Loved the talk Sree ji!
Excellent
Very interesting, informative and thought provoking session. Couldn't imagine it ended so fast 🙂 If we could have more elaborate sessions about Mohenjodaro and how some other locations of the Sindhu Saraswati Civilisation can be compared to nuclear explosions of recent past would be very interesting. The most amazing thing is that discussions with Narayanan Sir🙏 totally link up the entire sub continental landmass which truly awakens the nationalists amongst us who believe in the Indic Civilisation.
Quite revealing. Maj Genl has interpolated timeline of our history by at least 2000 years. Didn’t realise that an Army man can go so deep into history. I was baffled when I saw in Sankara Matam of Prayagraj that Adi Sankara was 2500 years old whereas the other history dated Him 600 to 700 CE. Some clarity has seeped in just now.
This topic has to be discussed perpetually.
V Prasanna
☝️☝️☝️ Vibrant, and enriching discussion. Thank you. Incredible Bharat. 💎🕉️💎🇮🇳💎
I watched this a couple of times. Wasn't easy to process the very 1st time.
My fav guests are Desh Kapoor, Maj. Madan, R Rajagopalan, Shekhar Iyer, Abhijit Iyer-Mitra, Sumit Peer, Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan, Sridhar Chityala and many more.
I'm wondering if Maj. Gen. Ragivji can tell us about Hindu Kush mountain.
Would like to know when/what happened to Hindus. I think he is the type of person who talks with facts.
🙏for your hard work.
Thanks for your insights .
Such an insightful video
General, Thank you for superb information
Very good analysis
Very enlightening session !! A session which enables one to prepare well for a debate on the antiquity of our xovilzation ,get rid of the word Myth thrust upon us regarding our history of Ramayana and Mahabharat. Tracing thd course of Saraswati river is very important but sadly it is neglscted both in our history snd geography text books
Amazing 🙏
great work
I wish these findings are well structured and enter the curriculum in India as Indian history.
Major has terrific knowlege
Nice info
Rajiv hav depth knowledge .pls bring him to show .use to see in adhi show.
Please address him as Major general
Has anybody done any Pūrva paksha on why BHARATA became so weak that it disintegrated into small kingdoms and got plundered by a small disintegrated country like UK which is not even 20th of its size?
What prevents us from going into the same situation again?
Economic power has always been at the core of our golden periods but also the cause for invasions along being naive. Now that we're rising economically again we have to be on guard. The vultures will come but united we can defend ourselves from the most dangerous enemies 🙏
I am sorry to say this - But, Indians today are not in a mood to introspect and accept any criticisms. The feeling of indian resurgence is blinding us. We want to hold on to our (imaginary, grandiose) greatness that happened 4000 years ago and kluge them in Modern times. How can we claim - ‘Mother of Democracy’ when we haven’t practiced Democracy for 4,000 years?
We can easily find our answer by pondering why we turned the foreigner who came to trade into our Masters. We constantly blame them for ruling us instead of wondering why we didn’t fight for ourselves.
Banning a Documentary (that we don’t like) is not a practice of Democracy.
Nilesh Neelkanth Oak using archaeo-astronomy techniques has arrived at some interesting dates for Indian antiquity. PGurus should try and get him to get his perspective.
for example, among his claims is Rg Ved being at least 17,000 years old!
It is quite similar to what Vedvir Arya Ji has been saying about Bhartiya timeline.
Hats off to your efforts. I'm sure Govt has bookmarked your details. Please don't bough down. I'm trying to propagate your views wherever whenever. Since you are Iyer ji....“Veer Madrassi, Addi Kollu, Addi Kollu, Addi Kollu !”
As per Nilesh Oak, Mahabharat war happed 5561 BCE.
In majjhimnikaya Biddha mentioned about past Buddhas with whom he worked. The first he mentioned lived for 120 thousand years. It is mentioned in Wikipedia
Hi Sree Iyer ji, could you host Praveen Mohan someday
1871 was when the British introduced the "caste system". Prior to that, we only had jati-varna. Their objective was to change India from a decentralised democracy (Dharma+kratu) to a centralized monarchy, on the lines of the monarchies of Europe.
I could easily listen for hours to the knowledge and insight of Rajiv ji on geopolitics esp with relation to Bharat.
Edit :
For things to have happened the way it's described it would have required high end technology and science in ancient past. Was there such technology as described in our Itihasa? Or is it all a "myth" as propagated by our colonial masters and their minions?
Did it exist, what happened to that technology if it did exist? Was it wiped out in a flood or natural or man made catastrophy? Why can't we see signs of it in archaeological digs and reports of it in history books other than a few books mentioned? Was there a cover-up or is this a narrative buildup?
The only way to clear such things is to fund archaeological digs and find out the TRUTH, whatever it may be - A super civilisation that declined or a normally evolving one that progressed.
There are other books and videos on Younger-Dryas Event that let to a great worldwide flood. If that IS true AND it coincides with the timelines described then it's definitely a possibility of super civilisations collapsing and re-emerging from the devastation. But somebody has to do the research and excavations and connect and prove all this esp for Bharatvarsha. People don't change their minds easily as we trust many things blindly.
Satyam Eva Jayate. 🙏🙏🙏
Aswathma's last revenge not discussed.Perhaps it was left to the viewers to link and decide or deduce.
temples are not always on river banks...some are on hills,mountains,vallies,forests and all geographies..
Sir, Vaishali still exists and is on the bank of the Ganges , in the state of Bihar.
There is another male named river called Vyas in Himachal Pradesh!
engrossing,
sir, with due respt the western can how could the establish our Indian History as they are only few 1000 years old and our Mahabharata / Ramayana is thousands & thousands years older than their civilization.
227 rules of monk during Buddha's life described in Vinaya Pithaka are very much democratic
Fascinating episode
27:08 31:33 I find the idea of nuclear a bit far fetched. But its possible to combine your two reasons of climate change & violent explosions into something more plausible.
Volcanoes. If enough of them go off and this continues it can create the equivalent of a nuclear winter which can lead to crop failure over a period of time. Burning ash and rock ejected can be hurled high into the atmosphere and then descend further away and burn people. Dust in the atmosphere will lead to rain and cause sudden cooling. If some radioative material is present well there is your explanation.
The only problem with this theory is finding evidence of during the time frame you are speaking about.
That such events happened is beyond dispute but they took place millions of years ago. Think of the Deccan traps. The Deccan was violently volcanic and over an extended period in the earth's past. Non stop belching volcanoes. This is the reason there is so much granite to be found down south.
👍👌👍👍👍
As an archaeologist specialized in Harappan civilization I don't agree with David Davenport's story of radiation at Mohenjo Daro. Vitrification is common at Harappan sites due to the high temperatures used for firing pottery, beads and metal working kilns. There are multiple reasons for the abandonment of this region including climate, collapse of trade and infrastructure. Migrations out of this region happened in waves until it became uninhabitable for a few centuries.
This talk expresses a view of chronology without much evidence. Nilesh Oak presents a view based on astronomical evidence, which is clinching. He further has multi-disciplinary evidence. If we start with his date for the MBH war, we can work out the date of commencement of kaliyuga.
Should we follow Nilesh Oak or not?
Bhaktiyar Khilji burning of Nalanda and permanently destroying India's documented history 😭
How Kautitya's date is given as sixteen century by Maj Gen Narayanan, and that to without evidence?
Please read Nilesh Oak work.. 5561 BCE.... that is more authentic
Long back Will Durant wrote that Indian gave democracy. Panchayat is also a democratic aspect. But the democracy was much stronger as it had dharmic rulers. It is unfortunate and an irony that on one side we say that westerners messed up the history and on the other we still need their approval through their write ups. Idiots believe them instead of Bharat references.
Brahama astra
Buddhist is not religion, it path of purification,
Foundation is four noble truth,
1) Suffering- death, old age disease ...
2) reason for Suffering,
3) path to remove Suffering
4) if follow path - liberation from craving, wrong knowledge distribution, Buddha's knowledge
First pillar is past births, himself,
Second pillar, is knowledge of others rebirth....
Knowledge of universe..
He told history of his past 549 birth, which gives history of evolution of cosmos,
27 past Budhas history,
It took him approximately 549 birth to evolve to reach this stage.
He will not come back to this universe...mahaparinirvana.
To become Buddha, he completed 10 parmi, 10 upparmi, 10 parmarth parmi, 5 mahadan,
Anyone do this he will become Buddha,
There no beginning point to this universe, no end point, it is cyclic, appearing and passing away,
Future Buddhas are coming,
Budhas discovery is
Wrong knowledge is Foundation of suffering....
Complete Destruction of wrong knowledge, is complete destruction of suffering and rebirth,
I have some experiment and experience in this regards.
Lord Parshram is considered to be "Chiranjivi" besides other six.
If anyone says India under Modi is a democracy, he / she/ or it, needs to be confined to a mental asylum.
One more (Total 2) male river buddy, that is Sonbhadra not Sonbhadraa
I am not sure about this major general s thought on our timeline, bcoz first his some articles are not in favour of Indian army, 2nd his some articles glorified by leftist media like print n karwan. It doesn't matter what America accepted or not what India thinks n believes is more matter than West.
Irfan habib and romilla Thapar who, don't know Persian and sanskrit respectively,claim to be experts on medieval and ancient history.
Yet another case of India trying to lay a false claim. Ancient Greece takes offense. But hey, India has some mythical books that claim otherwise
Hahaha... The ancient Greeks are laughing in their graves
Oh. I guess we had no kings and queens to rule Bharat! . You wish to rewrite history! I guess you have a degree in Entire Political Science.
Why don't u take interview to sadhguru jaggi regarding save soil and water management organics methods of growing d millers like