I was a locomotive mechanic for a while and changed out the very large 3 cylinder air compressor in one of the yard locomotives next to where all that sulfur was. The day we pulled the bad compressor out the wind blew the strongest chemical rotten egg smell on us all day. Luckily, the next day when we finished it was blowing a different way.
I’ve got the same boat. Love it as well. I’ve been on an inlet with 4 adults on board, boats racing by and I’ve never taken a wake over the bow. Super sea worthy. Never selling it.
You are right David, they are awesome boats! The only brand of boat that I have ever had that is not inflatable. I have owned four of them so far. I love how they are so sea worthy and safe and the fact that you can do just about anything in them.
Thanks Cliff. I enjoyed this... watched it twice to get all the info. Galveston is a rather interesting port. My guess is that, when a hurricane comes, the bigger boats all get out of Dodge before the seas get too rough. The thing with a smaller trailered boat... you too can get out of Dodge as well. I imagine the BW 160 SS gets similar gas mileage when trailering. Likely another 1mph less. It would be nice to see you take an excursion over to Corpus Christie and investigate everything to see over there. Thanks for sharing, Gord
From 2008 - 2014, I had a 150SS and it towed superbly, loved that boat! I’m sure the 160SS is very similar. You’ll only lose about 2 mpg on a full size vehicle.
@@KayakCliff Thanks Cliff. Your indications were also my own estimations in towing fuel loss. I like the 160SS as it gives a 30-40% more umph out of the hole and at top end. But the 130SS swivels better at low speeds. My 'dream boat' is the Boston Whaler Realm 380 with the quad Mercury 400 supercharged Verados. What disturbs me is the manufacturer's data on weight capacity. They are clearly avoiding the issue... because at full wet weight you barely have capacity for passengers and gear without being over their recommended weight listing. Engines, fuel, and water max out at around 6,500 lbs + 17,000 lbs hull gets you right at your wet weight capacity of 23,500 lbs. And swamped capacity is only 3,500 lbs which means at full capacity with the hull full of water you are well over what they indicate that the boat will safely sustain. I always wondered why captains and operators only like to run on a half tank of gas. That's the only way you can stay safe especially with any optional extras that add to the hull weight. I think the weight recommendations may be underestimated, while at the same time the manufacturers are attempting to dodge liability by making everything indistinct and hazy. And that too can blow up in their face under adjudication with a clever attorney. I don't like it because I honestly don't know where I stand. The only way to understand any of this is to go out at somewhat over capacity and see how the cruiser handles in various conditions. The risk is when taking on water in a heavier roll and chop, if for any reason the bilge pumps don't keep up, you run the risk of potentially capsizing if you get pushed broadside going too slow with current and waves at right angles. You can see this happening on some of Haulover Inlet videos when the operators clearly don't know what they're doing. Part of the problem is the manufacturers recommend keeping your gas tank full with some expansion room in order to avoid water condensation in the gas tank. So people go out at well over capacity with all of their passengers and gear going into the roll and chop... thinking their BW is unsinkable. It may be unsinkable but not un-capsizeable. There seems to be quite a bit of discussion on the boater boards on this subject. With most commentaries saying you'll be ok. Yeah-right... until your not ok because of inlet conditions.😮 Gord
After more investigation, it appears the manufacturers like to max out the potential for marketing purposes. But they then say in the owners manual that it is up to the operator/captain to load the vessel appropriately according to the conditions. So they give you the options of how much fuel and water you want to take on, relative to how many passengers and equipment you plan to load. It seems that with full fluids you are maxed out but with just one or two people and some personal gear and provisions, you will be fine in most intercostal conditions. But as things get rough you need to lighten your fuel load. Also, with the new twin Verados V12 600's and their lower prop drive swivel, rather than ganged engine pivot, they are able to push the props at about a 90° angle in either direction. That means you can throw this big boat around like a jet ski... literally. You can also spin it at trolling speed like the 130SS. The maneuverability for this size craft is unheard of with these new engines and their drive-train steering. It is a game changer. From a safety point of view, you have the ability to be cruising at around 35 mph and then turn the boat on a dime and bring it around instantly going in the other direction. This will result in a wall of water 15-20' high being thrust into the air in a spectacular display of force... enough water to instantly swamp a small runabout. You can't get that turning angle with ganged engines. On the other side of the safety issue you have the potential to roll the boat over and capsize if you kill the throttle in mid turn... since the hull will stop carving the water and supporting the massive weight. The more you are loaded with fuel etc. the greater the risk, based on speed and the amount of throttle reduction. You have to know the limits of the vessel. And with these new V12 Verado drives, they really upped the potential enormously... for both good and bad. Gord
@gorrdd It just boils down to, are you a good captain or not……..You definitely don’t want to hit bad inlet conditions like the Haulover Inlet in Miami! I’ve seen some captains make really bad decisions on attacking water they have no business being in. It’s best to weigh the winds and tides in your navigating decision making. Unsinkable yes, uncapsizeable? That would never be possible for any boat model to claim.
@@KayakCliff Indeed Cliff. Thanks for your comments. I have allot of learning to do before any larger vessel acquisitions happen. But it's good to see what's available and what would fit the projected boating style. The express cruiser is as big a vessel as I would be interested in, going forward. Gord
Thanks Gil! They are great boats. No specific buying advice from me from an affiliate standpoint. I have just had a life long passion going back to when I was 13, with my first Whaler. This boat is my 4th. Whaler Super Sport. MarineMax is the nationwide dealer for Whalers, I’ve always bought mine pre-owned, typically only 1-2 years old, so like new, but a lot less $$$ 😊
Hi 👋 - On this current model I have, it came already installed by the previous owner. On my two previous boats, I installed it myself. Very easy. Just make sure to screw the transducer where Whaler recommends based on your model and make sure you drill proper holes and fully seal with 3M 5200 with a full cure before using. Hope this helps!
While watching this video I checked the current location of the giant auto transport ship and it is (at the time of my seeing it) it left Singapore on the 2nd of August and is headed to the Port of Oman.
I was a locomotive mechanic for a while and changed out the very large 3 cylinder air compressor in one of the yard locomotives next to where all that sulfur was. The day we pulled the bad compressor out the wind blew the strongest chemical rotten egg smell on us all day. Luckily, the next day when we finished it was blowing a different way.
🤢 Lol
I’ve got the same boat. Love it as well. I’ve been on an inlet with 4 adults on board, boats racing by and I’ve never taken a wake over the bow. Super sea worthy. Never selling it.
You are right David, they are awesome boats! The only brand of boat that I have ever had that is not inflatable. I have owned four of them so far. I love how they are so sea worthy and safe and the fact that you can do just about anything in them.
Great video. Enjoyed the tour.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
While watching this video the Carnival Breeze was in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico headed to the Western Caribbean.
Awesome boat Cliff, and Wow some amazing views and video footage. But that 400ft concrete boat was bloody fantastic to see. Great video buddy.
Hey there, River Rat! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Have a great week buddy :-)
Thanks Cliff. I enjoyed this... watched it twice to get all the info. Galveston is a rather interesting port.
My guess is that, when a hurricane comes, the bigger boats all get out of Dodge before the seas get too rough.
The thing with a smaller trailered boat... you too can get out of Dodge as well. I imagine the BW 160 SS gets similar gas mileage when trailering. Likely another 1mph less.
It would be nice to see you take an excursion over to Corpus Christie and investigate everything to see over there.
Thanks for sharing,
Gord
From 2008 - 2014, I had a 150SS and it towed superbly, loved that boat! I’m sure the 160SS is very similar. You’ll only lose about 2 mpg on a full
size vehicle.
@@KayakCliff Thanks Cliff. Your indications were also my own estimations in towing fuel loss.
I like the 160SS as it gives a 30-40% more umph out of the hole and at top end.
But the 130SS swivels better at low speeds.
My 'dream boat' is the Boston Whaler Realm 380 with the quad Mercury 400 supercharged Verados.
What disturbs me is the manufacturer's data on weight capacity. They are clearly avoiding the issue... because at full wet weight you barely have capacity for passengers and gear without being over their recommended weight listing.
Engines, fuel, and water max out at around 6,500 lbs + 17,000 lbs hull gets you right at your wet weight capacity of 23,500 lbs.
And swamped capacity is only 3,500 lbs which means at full capacity with the hull full of water you are well over what they indicate that the boat will safely sustain.
I always wondered why captains and operators only like to run on a half tank of gas.
That's the only way you can stay safe especially with any optional extras that add to the hull weight.
I think the weight recommendations may be underestimated, while at the same time the manufacturers are attempting to dodge liability by making everything indistinct and hazy.
And that too can blow up in their face under adjudication with a clever attorney. I don't like it because I honestly don't know where I stand.
The only way to understand any of this is to go out at somewhat over capacity and see how the cruiser handles in various conditions.
The risk is when taking on water in a heavier roll and chop, if for any reason the bilge pumps don't keep up, you run the risk of potentially capsizing if you get pushed broadside going too slow with current and waves at right angles.
You can see this happening on some of Haulover Inlet videos when the operators clearly don't know what they're doing.
Part of the problem is the manufacturers recommend keeping your gas tank full with some expansion room in order to avoid water condensation in the gas tank.
So people go out at well over capacity with all of their passengers and gear going into the roll and chop... thinking their BW is unsinkable.
It may be unsinkable but not un-capsizeable.
There seems to be quite a bit of discussion on the boater boards on this subject. With most commentaries saying you'll be ok. Yeah-right... until your not ok because of inlet conditions.😮
Gord
After more investigation, it appears the manufacturers like to max out the potential for marketing purposes.
But they then say in the owners manual that it is up to the operator/captain to load the vessel appropriately according to the conditions.
So they give you the options of how much fuel and water you want to take on, relative to how many passengers and equipment you plan to load.
It seems that with full fluids you are maxed out but with just one or two people and some personal gear and provisions, you will be fine in most intercostal conditions.
But as things get rough you need to lighten your fuel load.
Also, with the new twin Verados V12 600's and their lower prop drive swivel, rather than ganged engine pivot, they are able to push the props at about a 90° angle in either direction.
That means you can throw this big boat around like a jet ski... literally. You can also spin it at trolling speed like the 130SS. The maneuverability for this size craft is unheard of with these new engines and their drive-train steering. It is a game changer.
From a safety point of view, you have the ability to be cruising at around 35 mph and then turn the boat on a dime and bring it around instantly going in the other direction.
This will result in a wall of water 15-20' high being thrust into the air in a spectacular display of force... enough water to instantly swamp a small runabout.
You can't get that turning angle with ganged engines.
On the other side of the safety issue you have the potential to roll the boat over and capsize if you kill the throttle in mid turn... since the hull will stop carving the water and supporting the massive weight.
The more you are loaded with fuel etc. the greater the risk, based on speed and the amount of throttle reduction. You have to know the limits of the vessel.
And with these new V12 Verado drives, they really upped the potential enormously... for both good and bad.
Gord
@gorrdd It just boils down to, are you a good captain or not……..You definitely don’t want to hit bad inlet conditions like the Haulover Inlet in Miami! I’ve
seen some captains make really bad decisions on attacking water they have no business being in. It’s best to weigh the winds and tides in your
navigating decision making. Unsinkable yes, uncapsizeable? That would never be possible for any boat model to claim.
@@KayakCliff Indeed Cliff. Thanks for your comments.
I have allot of learning to do before any larger vessel acquisitions happen. But it's good to see what's available and what would fit the projected boating style.
The express cruiser is as big a vessel as I would be interested in, going forward.
Gord
Hey Cliff, Great video! Lovin the Whaler! maybe the best one yet! thanks for exploring and sharing for us!
Thank you so much, Arnold! Great seeing you the other day!
great video and enjoy the trip and thank you for the tour and exploring!! have a good day and weekend. cool seeing dolphins!!
Hey there, Heather, thank you so much for watching and commenting! Have a great week out there!
@@KayakCliff your welcome and I shared & tagged you on my community tab RUclips
Always enjoy your videos Cliff! Interesting to see the Galveston sights from the water. Looks like a fun and economical boat! Any buying advice?
Thanks Gil! They are great boats. No specific buying advice from me from an affiliate standpoint. I have just had a life long passion going back
to when I was 13, with my first Whaler. This boat is my 4th. Whaler Super Sport. MarineMax is the nationwide dealer for Whalers, I’ve always
bought mine pre-owned, typically only 1-2 years old, so like new, but a lot less $$$ 😊
Great video Cliff. Did you install yourself your depth finder ?
Hi 👋 - On this current model I have, it came already installed by the previous owner. On my two previous boats, I installed it myself. Very easy.
Just make sure to screw the transducer where Whaler recommends based on your model and make sure you drill proper holes and fully seal
with 3M 5200 with a full cure before using. Hope this helps!
@@KayakCliff Yes ! ..thank you.
How does boating work there? Is it the same as cars, if it’s registered and has your state certifications it’s fine to take anywhere in the US?
Once registered in one state (Texas for me) you can use your boat in all 50 states. Just like a car 😊
While watching this video I checked the current location of the giant auto transport ship and it is (at the time of my seeing it) it left Singapore on the 2nd of August and is headed to the Port of Oman.
That's really interesting! What app or service do you use to get that information? Pretty cool!
Fun video, thanks Cliff, enjoyed the trip from Montana!
Thanks for coming along! Have a great weekend!
Great information , Thanks !
You're welcome! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, have a great week!
Great boats. Thanks for sharing Cliff.
You are right! Thank you so much for watching and commenting. Have a great weekend!