Just wanted to thank you Michael for this video. I’ve my RS-2000(NX7) for over a year. I knew about the auto cal program but I was never sure it was worthwhile or how complicated it was. I did the autocal this weekend and all I can say is wow! The difference it made is stunning. It’s most noticeable in reds and skin tones. I thought my JVC looked amazing before but this took it to another level.
I have a nx9 that was never calibrated with this solution. My projector looks fantastic and was a bit worried to make it suboptimal with a spyder x. I am now tempted to try it…
This will be one of my favourite videos of your channel.Honestly I dont know nothing about video calibration stuffs.Today I Learned something useful about it.😀.Thank you for enlightenment 😊.
Great video Youthman and Nick! So great to see that we can get a good automatic projector calibration for a reasonable price! This is going on my list for my upcoming theater build!
Thanks for this. I have been using calibrator extraordinaire Chad B to calibrate my displays for the past several years. I had my NX7 since October '19 and haven't been able to get anything scheduled due to the thing. The SpyderX has been ordered and I will give this a shot.
Wow, thanks for posting this! I'm definitely gonna do this, I'd rather do this than have a pro calibration if it gets you that close. Hell I spend all that time with REW and calibrating the audio, why not take some time and effort into the video as well.
I was going to get the Epson but keep seeing recommendations that the JVC is much better. Is it night and day difference? I’ll spend the extra money if it’s a significant difference but not if it’s subtle
I have the same projector with an acoustically transparent screen. Could I still use this method to calibrate or would the perforations in the screen throw off the spiderxpro that is only 1 foot away? I believe 7 to 8 feet away is focal distance to where the perfs become invisible to eye per screen innovations. Any ideas?
Youthman this is what we all want. We are more than satisfied with the sound we have. But now we also want the colors to be right. On the surface we can get a fairly good color. But with the automatic it is automatic and that is very easy. So that's going to be my next improvement. As always, thank you for this video. Always fun and educational. Greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht. Peace and love and of course High end home theater.👌👍✌😘😉
@@Youthman This hobby of Music Equipment speakers Beamer's Screens Cables ETC ... If we can improve some things. Then we do that too. And especially if we can do it ourselves. We learn from that and it is our hobby, which we can enjoy. Great food and a beautiful woman is lovely and wonderful. But our hobby also needs attention. Hihihi OOHH YES.✌👍😉
Youthman is legit. Not only does he use high end gear, he goes the extra mile to dial it in and get it calibrated. Some of the influencers on RUclips talk big game. Youthman actually delivers. Much respect.
Ordered my NX-5 today. Now I’m even more excited! I am a DIYer and I was not wanting to drop $500+ for professional calibration. Had no idea this existed!
Nice video. But is a Spyder good for gamma? I am told you should avoid spyders and get a X-rite Ipro2 or 3 for a good gamma and color measurement within Autocal software.
I am surprised how few vids on projector calibrating there are. Much like REW was for sound, i think this is the next tinkering phase for many of us home theater hobbyists. Would love to see a video guide through doing this on a projector (epson) that don't have auto cal features. And yes, I know I can pay 500 bucks and get a real calibrator in to my home. I can also hire a mechanic to do my cars, repair my house and build my furniture, but even knowing it might me cost me more, its my sanity break for my real job... I like to learn and fiddle with this stuff. Far more satisfaction than just signing the check.
And this was a well done video that hit the highlights of calibration whilst demonstrating the benefits. People with PJs that do not have cal software may choose from a number of programs such as the Spyder used in this video. I use CalMAN with a C6 meter as my older JVC PJ does not have the auto cal built in.
Can't believe I haven't watched this before .. I think it would get a lot more views I you change the title to how to use auto cal on jvc. I'm currently trying to decide on a np5/nz7. Would the same spider be appropriate and setup the same / similar. What a fantastic resource video. I had discounted the idea of the np5 due to dimming and calibration but this would get around that. Fantastic.
Wow, I think I need to calibrate my NX9. It looks pretty good to me, but I think I need to do this. Once I finish setting up my A-lens and Harmony Elite, this is next!!!
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing this tutorial. I’m definitely trying this out on my RS2000. Will get the SpyderX Pro and give it a spin soon. Thanks Youthman !
Thanking you Both for such an extensive step by step explanation. This is SO helpful to many - I just picked up the DLA N7 Projector to replace my Sony VPLHW11000es Projector.
Hi guys, great video. You guys don’t understand how much people need calibration on there projector. It really makes this hobby enjoyable when guys like you can help others without going broke lol. I have a quick question but haven’t read thru all the comments so maybe it was already answered but can I do this calibration on my EPSON 5950UB, great job guys, thx.
Another fantastic video as always Youthman. The video before this one (pre/pro) really blew me away in regards to how slick the presentation was. I hate to ask a non-audio question, but can you please let me know what video editing software you use? Your elements and transitions are spot on. I have a home gardening/reno channel that I need to improve on. Cheers.
@@Youthman When I bought my first HT projector a few years back, I watched all my 80's & 90's favorites all over again and man! It was a treat in itself. Wish I knew about the in home calibration before, the experience would have been even better!
Great video. Thanks, youthman and Nick! Question - I have a 2.40:1 scope screen, and it's normally stays in the same 2.40:1 lens memory, since I have a madVR Envy Pro. The Autocal software asks what is the screen size, but it doesn't ask what the screen's aspect ratio is. Do I enter the diagonal of my 2.40:1 screen? Or what would be the diagonal of a 16:9 screen that has the same height (or width) as my 133" 2.40:1 screen (which I think is 140" 16:9 screen)?
Thanks guys. Great work. Appreciate. I have jvc Dla-rs55e model, can I use the same software and same sensor? If not, which software? Sensor? Should I use? I really appreciate your work and help 🙏 Thanks a lot
Because the Pro and the Elite are the exact same meter. We are using JVCs Autocal software to do the calibration, which connects to and reads from the meter. The only difference between the Pro and Elite is an artificial software limitation in DataColor’s included calibration software (which for JVC Autocal you don’t use or install at all).
FYI, "color temperature" for example 6500K from what I understand does not equal 65,000. "K" is a unit of measure that is expressed in Kelvin expressed by the symbol K. K is not a multiplier of the values displayed on the calibration software charts.
Great video, thanks! Any chance you can follow up with a more detailed step by step video? In particular for HDR. Or point me to a guide/video? I plan on getting a spyder and giving AutoCal a go very soon, great to see it seems quite simple.
This is cool, but isn't the calibration map only through your PC and not the projector? Once you remove the PC from the input, aren't the settings are gone.
have a RS1000 with about 300 hours on it and I just bought a spyderx pro. My screen is 100” 16:9, throw is 16’. Low lamp for both SDR and HDR. Iris SDR= 14 HDR= 10 1) If I want to do just a gamma cal. do I have to run two calibration because of the different iris settings? 2) if I do a color cal. I believe I would have to do two calibrations correct? 3) When is the initial file saved after running a calibration or when saving a calibration? Thanks for you help!
1) No, there are only 2 gamma tables to calibrate on the RS1000, 1 for low lamp and one for high lamp. 2) Yes you need to do 2 color autocals because iris position 10 and 14 are in different iris calibration table groups. There are 4 color calibration tables for iris groups. 0-3, 4-7, 8-11, and 12-15. And then there are 4 again for the other lamp mode so 8 color calibration tables in total. 3) It's saved after you save your first autocal result to the projector.
Great video Youthman and Nick! I am contemplating between the NX7 vs the new Sony 715es. Does the Sony provide similar options to calibrate from a DIY standpoint? I was leaning towards the Sony as people rave about their cinematic experience. Any recommendations, Youthman?
Unfortunately Sony doesn’t have an end user autocal software. IMO it’s a big plus for JVC. For a Sony calibration you will have to perform a manual process, adjusting the various calibration menus in the projector. Fortunately Sony has great calibration controls included.
Great video! To what degree can you trust the accuracy of something like the Spyder X? Wouldn't that also need to be calibrated against a reference / high quality meter?
@@Youthman I think to a higher degree. Those meters are several thousand dollars. The problem with the low cost colormeters are that they tend to drift in accuracy over time, and needs recalibration (at least, that's what I have heard).
Just wanted to thank you guys for this tutorial. Inspired me to get a SpyderX and do my own calibration on my RS2000. Did this 5 minutes ago, could not have gone smoother and I doubt that I destroyed anything. Image looks great but that is probably confirmation bias. I only did a gamma adjustment. After all the very negative back and forth on doing color I skipped it. But of course, now I am wanting to go further. I am assuming that the file saved to my documents folder is both the original gamma AND color even though I have not touched color. Asking in case I go the full Monty and don’t like it. Do I restore to that first original file? Great tutorial
The file with Init in the name is the stock calibration settings. You can restore it at any time. I really think you get better results than stock with a Spyder. The red is just so low on the NX projectors out of the box.
i have jvc N7, and did calibration with spyder x, and i1pro2, results ---> spyder x is not good in colors. i1pro2 is offcourse expensive tool, but makes colors superb on this projector. spyder x is only entry level tool, and he gives you just moderate results,epecialy wrong on colors.gamma is on good side. if you need very acurate colors use i1pro2,he makes gamma and colors ideal. From forums people recomending i1pro2 do not use for gamma, only for colors,but in my experience they are wrong an my tool makes gamma/colors very good . on Jvc calibration is a MUST do ...
Couldn't agree more. Use Spyderx for Gamma 1st and then i1Pro2 (spectrophotometer) for color. I verify the result with ChromaPure & iDisplay Pro 3 (calibrated colorimeter). But for an average user i1Pro2 is a huge investment but it worth the cost for serious video calibration.
Arshad Malik have you actually measured a SpyderX sensor vs a reference meter? I have measured a few be reference and they are not terrible. They are certainly better than the stock JVC color accuracy. That’s the whole point here. Improving your JVC color, not necessarily making it perfect. Sure you can spend a lot more to make it near-perfect. But you can spend a little and still make it noticeable better than out of the box.
@@nicko880 I used SpyderX initially for both Gamma and color. The color where not that much off when I verified it with iDisplay Pro 3 (Calibrated with Klein meter) but Saturation was bit more off than I wanted (dE > 3.0). However after using iPro2 the color were calibrated way better with dE < 3.0.
Great video. How about a follow up on how to ensure that you are calibrating both SDR and HDR? I ran as you suggested but I’m not sure it did both. Also, I had a heck of a time connecting directly to my laptop. Finally gave up and hooked to a wireless access point. Thanks!
Well it's not so much that you calibrate modes like that. You just need to understand what Autocal adjusts. It adjusts the base calibration tables of which for an NX7 there are 4 gamma tables, and 16 color tables. The combinations for the tables are as such: For gamma, it's the 4 combinations of the 2 bulb modes, and 2 color filter modes. For color, it's the same as above, except add in the combination of 4 manual iris ranges. The ranges are 0 to -3, -4 to -7, -8 to -11, and -12 to -15. So you just need to make sure that the base gamma and color table have been calibrated for the mode settings you are actually using. So lets say for SDR you use low bulb, no wide filter, and iris -5. Easiest to autocal that would be to set your projector into a mode that uses those settings. So just use your SDR mode settings as we lists, and run a gamma+color autocal. Then for HDR lets say you use high bulb, frame adapt HDR, wide filter on, and iris position 0. Since you are using a different bulb mode and a different color filter mode you need a new gamma calibration for this. And you definitely need a new color calibration for this since for the same reason, but also because the iris is in a different group range. You can;t calibrate in Frame Adapt mode, but you don't need to. Simply set up a mode that uses this combination of settings and it will become calibrated. So set up a User2 mode for example with high lamp, BT2020 Wide color profile (this engages the wide color filter), and iris position 0 and then run another gamma+color autocal. So now when you go to your actual HDR mode that you use (Frame Adapt) it shares the same base calibration tables that you just calibrated because it shares the same bulb mode, color filter mode, and iris group position as a mode that you calibrated.
There have been some negative experiences with the uniformity of the JVC DLA-NX7, ie. how uniform are the colors in different parts of the picture, large contrast variations in corners and left and right of center etc. Did you check this in your calibration and what was your results? And do you experience any bright corners or variation in colors in different parts of the picture? I want to buy the NX7 myself, but apparently the large tolerances the JVC NX7 provide seem to be a big issue and not just for single (maybe defective) units
@@nicko880 Thanks for your feedback and good to hear you have not seen this issue. I am referring to this thread www.avforums.com/threads/jvc-n5-rs1000-n7-rs2000-nx9-rs3000-factory-tolerance-and-issue-discussion-for-owners.2257217/ It would be nice to get your contribution there also as someone not having seen any issues.
You can, i’ve found most people seem to like 2.2. But autocal actually calibrates every gamma. It flattens your gamma curve appropriately and then you can simply select each gamma value in the projector menu and they will all be similarity accurate after calibration.
Great Video ! it helped me out a lot .. The Netflix symbol was orange until I calibrated using the spyderX .. now it is RED like how it is on my TV. SDR content is calibrated and it is making a lot of difference in skin tones and colors. Tried the same for BT.2020 for HDR content ,But had a question regarding frame adapt HDR , this profile cannot be calibrated , does this mean it already has good color gamut ?
Great video as allways. That will be next thing on the list. Right now I have just orderd UMIK1 and will play with my speakers. And I have a question. There is a lot of materials showing how to EQ your subs, or fronts. What about the back side and atmos speakers should we do something with them as well? Best regards
I'm pretty happy with my Epson 6050 but, had I known about this before purchasing, I might have sprung for the JVC. Maybe next time. Until then I'll just be mildly jealous. :)
Do you normally run in a mode that isn’t the “Frame Adapt HDR” mode? I found calibration was awesome when viewing my PC screen on the projector, but my Apple TV looks best in frame adapt HDR. Thanks for the video and for sharing your experience!!
You can't actually run JVC autocal in the Frame Adapt HDR mode, but that's not really how autocal works anyays. Autocal calibrates all picture modes, (SDR and HDR) all at once. Really the differences between them is just some math once you have proper measurements. You just need to re-run autocal for each combination of bulb mode, wide color filter, and manual iris position that you will use on the projector, and autocal will end up calibrating each mode since autocal updates the base calibration tables in the projector itself. I.E. the proper white balance applies to all color modes, all gamma curves are mathematically calculated from autocal measurement, and same thing for the different color gamuts. I have measured the other gamma curves and color gamuts after a single autocal and they were all similarly accurate after so long as you remain in the same bulb mode, color filter setting, and manual iris position.
Dangit! Now I want a jvc projector just so I can do this lol. I mess with my epson alot, this would be awesome to do and get “perfect” calibration for a small cost. Does this only apply to the nx7 or even the nx5? Awesome video as always!
Nick mentions that the Spyder X Pro can be used for both color and gamma in this video but reading the JVC autocal discussion over at avscience, they mention that the X Pro cannot be used for color with the new V1.12 version of the autocal software. Only gamma can be calibrated and that the i1 Pro 2 or the older Spyder 5 series should be used for color. Would we be able to get Nick to verify this please?
The Spyder5 is not supported at all anymore with the v1.12 update. You can use the SpyderX for both gamma and color. Some people prefer not to use the SpyderX for color since it is not as accurate as the much more expensive i1 Pro 2 meter. It doesn't mean the SpyderX doesn't work. In all my experiences the SpyderX is far better than out of the box calibration. But no, it is not quite as accurate as the i1 Pro 2. It's a tradeoff of accuracy vs price. You can buy the cheaper meter and get a good calibration. Or you can also buy the more expensive meter and get a bit more accurate calibration. The only thing that is for sure not accurate (or less accurate than out of the box) is trying to use the i1 Pro 2 for gamma. Don't do that.
@@nicko880 Awesome, what a relief! I placed an order for the X Pro after watching this video and am thankful that it'll do the job. Thank you for the quick reply, it's greatly appreciated.
what software/hardware had been used for taking the independent measurements' comparisons of the pre/post calibration especially the colors, gamma etc... ? Doesn't AutoCal have any comparison features pre/post the calibration to measure them?
Autocal does not have comparison features. I used HCFR which is a completely free full-featured calibration suite: sourceforge.net/projects/hcfr-2019/ I used an i1 Pro 2 spectrophotometer to do the before/after comparison measurements.
@@nicko880 why did you have to use the open source HCFR software separately for independent color measurement doesn't the ` i1 Pro 2 spectrophotometer` which u had used come bundled with the color measurement feature similar to what you did in the video?
@@webuserish As far as I know no. The X-Rite software is for automatic display calibration and generating .icc profiles for the operating system's color management system. This doesn't give you all the measurement data output for comparing before and after calibration state. Plus I know how to use HCFR and it's great and does everything you would ever need for calibration measurements. I have never used the X-Rite software.
Haha yeah I realized after watching this back that I misspoke and said 65 thousand. At least you can still see the correct number on the screen of 6500.
Sweet Youthman. Does this program and Spyder Pro work with other projectors to? I have a Epson 9300 that needs adjustment. If not, do you know what i can use to cal my Epson?
@@nicko880 ok. Tnx. I need to look for some options beside hiring a pro.. its just not worth it imo. As you say in video we can do this with some months apart. Paying a pro is for me a one time thing that last max 0.5 lamp life.
@@kristoffer9197 Manual calibration is definitely learnable, similar to learning how to use REW and MiniDSP. The free manual calibration tool I recommend is called HCFR.
Cool guide ... I have done all the steps...calibrating in high bright lamp the result is a burned image and a so low brightness image in every color profile ... lamp has 1000h working time . Any suggestion? TKs for the help ( ps i think someone deleted my initial .INIT backup :( )
It can definitely be used for other products, the question is does your product support it. Like JVC has software built into their projectors that can take the data that is measured from the SpyderX and use it to adjust settings within the projector
Great video. 85% performance? The delta E error were very small VERY impressive result. Looking for calibration equipment for my rs3000 maybe I should try this.
That Spyder is not corrected to a spectro as Autocal does not even support that. So take the color readings with a grain of salt. Probably the color part of the calibration is better to be done with a spectro. Autocal only supports i1 Pro2. Now, some people will tell you thats not a reference spectro.... and the discussion keeps on going. I think 85% is a fair assesment.
@@cristianburu Actually autocal does support using a correction matrix for Spyder colorimeters. The option is called 'matrixOfSensor' and is located in the file %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\JVCKENWOOD\Projector Calibration Software *\init.xml
Love this video youth man. To me very informative. I will be ordering a spiderx. Just a sidenote I don't understand how anybody could give this a thumbs down.
No, this autocal software is only for JVC. No other projector has an autocal feature, and covering a manual calibration process would take some background understanding and an hours long video that would take several days to shoot.
Thanks for a great video. But I wonder what my settings should look like in N5, if I want to calibrate both sdr / hdr in low lamp mode at the same time? If I have Iris in different position, two calibration? Thanks Mikael
Ryan brought his spectro to calibrate but was having issues with his software so we didn’t get it calibrated. I just used Audio Advice recommended settings.
Thank you Youthman, I just watched the video as it was posted on the JVC NX thread on avsforums. However after I posted a reply some guys are saying the spyder x pro isnt as good as the iPro2 as they say it doesnt do colour, yet your video does say it does colour and the specs also say the spyderx pro does colour. Can you comment please as I want to buy one or the other.... Its easier for me to buy the spyderx pro as they are available in NZ and are alot cheaper than the i1Pro. Thank you again...
Hey Robert I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’m not video calibration expert. All I can share is the results that Nick was able to achieve using the SpyderX. He has been using it for many years and also has some of the higher in calibration tools. The point of the video is the show that you can get good results with the SpiderX. If you look at the comments on this video, you will see many others that purchase it and also had great results. Unfortunately I cannot speak on the i1Pro as I have never used it myself.
@@Youthman thats good enough for me, I have just bought a spyderX pro, lets see if I too get a better result on my NX9. Thank you. ....BTW how does one do a separate calibration for HDR with the filter in?
Robert Thompson, yes in my experience you get better results than stock, even with a SpyderX meter. If you don’t think it looks better after you can always undo the calibration settings. To calibrate for HDR with the filter in simply run the autocal process again with the projector in a mode that has the filter enabled like BT2020 wide color profile. You should be able to do user1, BT2020 Wide, 6500K, Gamma 2.2. This would be acceptable to calibrate your projector for HDR with filter mode. The color profile is called BT2020 wide after the 3.50 firmware update. Before the 3.50 firmware its just called BT2020 which always uses the filter.
The software I downloaded from JVC wouldn’t let me use the frame adapt HDR picture mode. It said I had to select another one. I did that and tried to make a custom profile, but the frame adapt default picture mode still looks better than my custom user profile....
I had the 5040UB before upgrading to the NX7. No comparison. NX7 has much better color science, ridiculously dark black levels and higher contrast. Add Frame Adapt and ability to Autocal, the JVC is hard to beat. The epson is brighter but at the cost of black levels, and contrast.
Johannes Rosholm Mygind, no you can’t use the SpyderX with the x7500. Pick up a Spyder5 from AVSForum Classifieds Accessories section. I see a few on there right now for good prices.
No, on your first ever autocal run, the software will automatically save the projector's stock calibration data to a file called the INIT file (it has Init in its file name). You can use this to restore the stock calibration at any time. It saves it to the folder you have the autocal software set to use in the autocal settings screen.
So if you don't have a JVC projector and want to use it on another projector or a TV does the company that makes the Spyder Pro have software similar to the JVCs?
I would recommend using free software called HCFR and DisplayCAL for calibrating other displays. Autocal is strictly a JVC feature and no other projector brands that I know of offer anything similar. But also if you are doing manual calibrations, I would look at an X-Rite meter such as an i1 Display Studio or i1 Display Pro Plus as they are more accurate and more flexible for general calibration. The main reason to use the Spyder here is because it is the only colorimeter compatible with JVC autocal.
About to purchase one of these for my JVC NX9, is the elite worth purchasing over the PRO? is there more features it can do to my JVC projector that the PRO can not?
The Pro and Elite are the same physical meters. The only difference is the software it comes with which is completely unrelated to autocal. Only get the elite if you want to use the included software for its other purposes.
@@nicko880 I was under the impression that the elite can also be used for TVs and other projectors which could be worth while for someone that has multiple displays in their home, and that the pro seems to only advertise computer monitor calibrations. As my main purpose of purchase is for my JVC NX9, I just wanted to be sure the pro wasn't missing features of calibrating my JVC NX9 (e.g.contrast, brightness, sharpness...) that the elite would do and be worth spending the extra money on. Thanks guys for replying and helping me with my decision.
@@jasonpipkin8060 Well brightness, contrast, and sharpness you don't use a meter for at all, but use your eyes with the right test patterns. These can be found for free as well. Brightness and contrast should use what are called black clipping and white clipping patterns. I wouldn't even recommend bothering with the Spyder software as it's only good for generating .icc profiles for a PC which doesn't have much use for home theater. There is much better free software you can use for calibration such as DisplayCAL and HCFR and it doesn't matter whether you have a Pro or Elite as they are the exact same hardware.
Nicholas Oldroyd thanks again guys, looks like my spyderX pro comes in tomorrow. So I will be taking a lot of before pics to compare the difference. I’m excited to see the difference as I’ve already been impressed with this JVC projector. One last question, before running the calibration does the color, tint, gamma/and other settings need to be placed back on default? As I have made a few slight changes.
Just wanted to thank you Michael for this video. I’ve my RS-2000(NX7) for over a year. I knew about the auto cal program but I was never sure it was worthwhile or how complicated it was. I did the autocal this weekend and all I can say is wow! The difference it made is stunning. It’s most noticeable in reds and skin tones. I thought my JVC looked amazing before but this took it to another level.
My exact same experience. Awesome to hear your JVC is looking better than ever!
This is exactly why we made this video! Thanks for sharing your experience!
I have a nx9 that was never calibrated with this solution. My projector looks fantastic and was a bit worried to make it suboptimal with a spyder x. I am now tempted to try it…
This guy explained calibration and it’s importance better than anyone I’ve seen. This was a great video. 👍 keep up the great work!
Thank you.
This will be one of my favourite videos of your channel.Honestly I dont know nothing about video calibration stuffs.Today I Learned something useful about it.😀.Thank you for enlightenment 😊.
Thank you kindly. Glad you found the video helpful
Great video Youthman and Nick! So great to see that we can get a good automatic projector calibration for a reasonable price! This is going on my list for my upcoming theater build!
Thanks for this. I have been using calibrator extraordinaire Chad B to calibrate my displays for the past several years. I had my NX7 since October '19 and haven't been able to get anything scheduled due to the thing. The SpyderX has been ordered and I will give this a shot.
Wow looks pretty simple to me. I’ll definitely be doing this myself for my RS2000.
Glad I found this video again. Perfect timing as I'm about to order the Spyder X Pro to calibrate my NZ8.
Wow, thanks for posting this! I'm definitely gonna do this, I'd rather do this than have a pro calibration if it gets you that close. Hell I spend all that time with REW and calibrating the audio, why not take some time and effort into the video as well.
I’m very new to video but it seems really straightforward. I’ll be buying one myself
Nice, I was not aware that JVC has user software for home calibrations. You should have a special segment with Nick, and pick his brain for more tips.
GREAT video! Thanks to both of you for this!
Thank you for the kind words. It was a lot of fun to make together.
I’m glad you took my advice after you got the jvc! I knew the difference would be huge for you!
Was definitely a significant improvement.
Hey... Bryan knows good theater, as well as good cigars!
I was going to get the Epson but keep seeing recommendations that the JVC is much better. Is it night and day difference? I’ll spend the extra money if it’s a significant difference but not if it’s subtle
It’s definitely a significant difference. I’ve owned two Panasonic and an Epson prior to my JVC. It’s gorgeous
I have the same projector with an acoustically transparent screen. Could I still use this method to calibrate or would the perforations in the screen throw off the spiderxpro that is only 1 foot away? I believe 7 to 8 feet away is focal distance to where the perfs become invisible to eye per screen innovations. Any ideas?
Wow amazing job at explaining the calibration. Holy Hell, cant believe the difference. Will be doing this in the coming weeks on my rs1000.
Youthman this is what we all want. We are more than satisfied with the sound we have. But now we also want the colors to be right. On the surface we can get a fairly good color. But with the automatic it is automatic and that is very easy. So that's going to be my next improvement. As always, thank you for this video. Always fun and educational. Greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht. Peace and love and of course High end home theater.👌👍✌😘😉
Thank you Javier. I’m super knew when it comes to video calibration. But I like it when stuff is easy because even I can figure that out LOL
@@Youthman
This hobby of Music Equipment speakers Beamer's Screens Cables ETC ... If we can improve some things. Then we do that too. And especially if we can do it ourselves. We learn from that and it is our hobby, which we can enjoy. Great food and a beautiful woman is lovely and wonderful. But our hobby also needs attention. Hihihi OOHH YES.✌👍😉
Thank you for the great tutorial. How would the process change if one used Madvr tone mapping for HDR?
Youthman is legit. Not only does he use high end gear, he goes the extra mile to dial it in and get it calibrated. Some of the influencers on RUclips talk big game. Youthman actually delivers. Much respect.
Thanks Matt. Just trying to provide value in my content
Been doing this for years with my computer monitors for photo editing. Makes a huge difference. You’ve inspired me again for my JVC projector. Thanks!
Thanks Robert
@@Youthman the thanks are all for you :)
Did this on my new NX7. Bookmarked you vid. Thx
Ordered my NX-5 today. Now I’m even more excited! I am a DIYer and I was not wanting to drop $500+ for professional calibration. Had no idea this existed!
Congrats! The NX5 is an awesome projector
Nice video.
But is a Spyder good for gamma? I am told you should avoid spyders and get a X-rite Ipro2 or 3 for a good gamma and color measurement within Autocal software.
I am surprised how few vids on projector calibrating there are. Much like REW was for sound, i think this is the next tinkering phase for many of us home theater hobbyists.
Would love to see a video guide through doing this on a projector (epson) that don't have auto cal features.
And yes, I know I can pay 500 bucks and get a real calibrator in to my home. I can also hire a mechanic to do my cars, repair my house and build my furniture, but even knowing it might me cost me more, its my sanity break for my real job... I like to learn and fiddle with this stuff. Far more satisfaction than just signing the check.
And this was a well done video that hit the highlights of calibration whilst demonstrating the benefits. People with PJs that do not have cal software may choose from a number of programs such as the Spyder used in this video. I use CalMAN with a C6 meter as my older JVC PJ does not have the auto cal built in.
Can't believe I haven't watched this before .. I think it would get a lot more views I you change the title to how to use auto cal on jvc. I'm currently trying to decide on a np5/nz7. Would the same spider be appropriate and setup the same / similar. What a fantastic resource video. I had discounted the idea of the np5 due to dimming and calibration but this would get around that. Fantastic.
Thanks for the suggestion I just updated the title
Wow, I think I need to calibrate my NX9. It looks pretty good to me, but I think I need to do this. Once I finish setting up my A-lens and Harmony Elite, this is next!!!
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing this tutorial. I’m definitely trying this out on my RS2000. Will get the SpyderX Pro and give it a spin soon. Thanks Youthman !
That's pretty cool! Easy DIY calibration... Colors look MUCH better man
Thanking you Both for such an extensive step by step explanation. This is SO helpful to many - I just picked up the DLA N7 Projector to replace my Sony VPLHW11000es Projector.
Glad the video was helpful Ned
Been looking for a video like this for 3 years.. Thanks for posting, thank you..
Glad to help
@@Youthman Yes thank you.. Wanted to ask would the spyder pro x work with jvc640?
@@jorgebetancourt1561 No, you need to find a Spyder5 for the rs640.
Excellent calibration video. Can you access the before and after results using the JVC auto-cal menu or do you need a different program for that?
What program did you use to independently test colours etc. I have just run auto cal but would like to see the difference like you did
Hi guys, great video. You guys don’t understand how much people need calibration on there projector. It really makes this hobby enjoyable when guys like you can help others without going broke lol. I have a quick question but haven’t read thru all the comments so maybe it was already answered but can I do this calibration on my EPSON 5950UB, great job guys, thx.
Unfortunately Epson does not have the ability.
Waaow better !!! Calibration is a must ! Great for you!
Wow that grey scale was rough but it sure got into shape! Great calibration dude👌
Thanks
Another fantastic video as always Youthman. The video before this one (pre/pro) really blew me away in regards to how slick the presentation was. I hate to ask a non-audio question, but can you please let me know what video editing software you use? Your elements and transitions are spot on. I have a home gardening/reno channel that I need to improve on. Cheers.
Thanks Youthman! Been waiting for this video to drop. Ordering the 🕷️ today!
Let me know how your calibration turns out.
@@Youthman Going to do that this weekend. Did he do a setting for SDR and then another setting for HDR?
I believe he said you only have to do one for SDR
Damn! Now you’ll have to rewatch EVERYTHING
Is that a bad thing?
Youthman Not at all sir
@@Youthman When I bought my first HT projector a few years back, I watched all my 80's & 90's favorites all over again and man! It was a treat in itself. Wish I knew about the in home calibration before, the experience would have been even better!
Fantastic as usual! I've been waiting for an Autocal video ages 👍👍
Great video. Thanks, youthman and Nick! Question - I have a 2.40:1 scope screen, and it's normally stays in the same 2.40:1 lens memory, since I have a madVR Envy Pro. The Autocal software asks what is the screen size, but it doesn't ask what the screen's aspect ratio is. Do I enter the diagonal of my 2.40:1 screen? Or what would be the diagonal of a 16:9 screen that has the same height (or width) as my 133" 2.40:1 screen (which I think is 140" 16:9 screen)?
WOW!!!! Huge difference.
It looks fantastic! Wish I could capture on video what my eyes are seeing in person.
What software is being used for the before and after comparison? And how are you feeding it the data?
Thanks guys. Great work. Appreciate.
I have jvc Dla-rs55e model, can I use the same software and same sensor?
If not, which software? Sensor? Should I use?
I really appreciate your work and help 🙏
Thanks a lot
Why did he recommend using the spyder pro and not the elite? I saw the elite is used for projectors.
Because the Pro and the Elite are the exact same meter.
We are using JVCs Autocal software to do the calibration, which connects to and reads from the meter.
The only difference between the Pro and Elite is an artificial software limitation in DataColor’s included calibration software (which for JVC Autocal you don’t use or install at all).
FYI, "color temperature" for example 6500K from what I understand does not equal 65,000. "K" is a unit of measure that is expressed in Kelvin expressed by the symbol K. K is not a multiplier of the values displayed on the calibration software charts.
Yes I meant to say 65 hundred and instead I accidentally said 65 thousand.
Great video! Definitely worth it getting calibration done.
Great video, thanks! Any chance you can follow up with a more detailed step by step video? In particular for HDR. Or point me to a guide/video?
I plan on getting a spyder and giving AutoCal a go very soon, great to see it seems quite simple.
Hi Steven, I will likely be able to down the road when I purchase one myself.
Youthman That would be great, look forward to it!
That’s was excellent. Thank you.
This is cool, but isn't the calibration map only through your PC and not the projector? Once you remove the PC from the input, aren't the settings are gone.
have a RS1000 with about 300 hours on it and I just bought a spyderx pro.
My screen is 100” 16:9, throw is 16’.
Low lamp for both SDR and HDR.
Iris SDR= 14 HDR= 10
1) If I want to do just a gamma cal. do I have to run two calibration because of the different
iris settings?
2) if I do a color cal. I believe I would have to do two calibrations correct?
3) When is the initial file saved after running a calibration or when saving a calibration?
Thanks for you help!
1) No, there are only 2 gamma tables to calibrate on the RS1000, 1 for low lamp and one for high lamp.
2) Yes you need to do 2 color autocals because iris position 10 and 14 are in different iris calibration table groups.
There are 4 color calibration tables for iris groups.
0-3, 4-7, 8-11, and 12-15. And then there are 4 again for the other lamp mode so 8 color calibration tables in total.
3) It's saved after you save your first autocal result to the projector.
Great video Youthman and Nick! I am contemplating between the NX7 vs the new Sony 715es. Does the Sony provide similar options to calibrate from a DIY standpoint? I was leaning towards the Sony as people rave about their cinematic experience. Any recommendations, Youthman?
Unfortunately Sony doesn’t have an end user autocal software.
IMO it’s a big plus for JVC.
For a Sony calibration you will have to perform a manual process, adjusting the various calibration menus in the projector.
Fortunately Sony has great calibration controls included.
Nicholas Oldroyd : Thanks a lot! Between, really cool work on the 4D experience you created and youthman shared. 👌
Very clear explanation, thank you.
Great video! To what degree can you trust the accuracy of something like the Spyder X? Wouldn't that also need to be calibrated against a reference / high quality meter?
To what degree can we trust the accuracy of a reference / high quality meter?
@@Youthman I think to a higher degree. Those meters are several thousand dollars. The problem with the low cost colormeters are that they tend to drift in accuracy over time, and needs recalibration (at least, that's what I have heard).
What software was used to measure before and after calibration results? That doesn't look like JVC autocal is it?
I love videos like this that shows you how to get the most performance out of your equipment.
Thanks Jeff I’m trying to do more content like this
I’ll be looking forward to that
Superb and very easy to understand I have a JVC X5500 that will benefit from this
Just wanted to thank you guys for this tutorial. Inspired me to get a SpyderX and do my own calibration on my RS2000. Did this 5 minutes ago, could not have gone smoother and I doubt that I destroyed anything. Image looks great but that is probably confirmation bias. I only did a gamma adjustment. After all the very negative back and forth on doing color I skipped it. But of course, now I am wanting to go further. I am assuming that the file saved to my documents folder is both the original gamma AND color even though I have not touched color. Asking in case I go the full Monty and don’t like it. Do I restore to that first original file? Great tutorial
The file with Init in the name is the stock calibration settings. You can restore it at any time.
I really think you get better results than stock with a Spyder. The red is just so low on the NX projectors out of the box.
How are you enjoying the NX7, I’ve been waiting on mine that’s backordered and wanted to see if it’s everything you expected?
Absolutely love it! Use it several times a week. 4K movies look stunning and since I bought my PS5, I’ve really been enjoying gaming on it
Thanks, I can’t wait to get mine!
What an excellent video! Well done!
i have jvc N7, and did calibration with spyder x, and i1pro2, results ---> spyder x is not good in colors. i1pro2 is offcourse expensive tool, but makes colors superb on this projector. spyder x is only entry level tool, and he gives you just moderate results,epecialy wrong on colors.gamma is on good side. if you need very acurate colors use i1pro2,he makes gamma and colors ideal. From forums people recomending i1pro2 do not use for gamma, only for colors,but in my experience they are wrong an my tool makes gamma/colors very good . on Jvc calibration is a MUST do ...
Couldn't agree more. Use Spyderx for Gamma 1st and then i1Pro2 (spectrophotometer) for color. I verify the result with ChromaPure & iDisplay Pro 3 (calibrated colorimeter). But for an average user i1Pro2 is a huge investment but it worth the cost for serious video calibration.
Arshad Malik have you actually measured a SpyderX sensor vs a reference meter?
I have measured a few be reference and they are not terrible. They are certainly better than the stock JVC color accuracy.
That’s the whole point here. Improving your JVC color, not necessarily making it perfect.
Sure you can spend a lot more to make it near-perfect. But you can spend a little and still make it noticeable better than out of the box.
@@nicko880 I used SpyderX initially for both Gamma and color. The color where not that much off when I verified it with iDisplay Pro 3 (Calibrated with Klein meter) but Saturation was bit more off than I wanted (dE > 3.0). However after using iPro2 the color were calibrated way better with dE < 3.0.
What a difference! Does this apply to the ultra short throw projectors as well?
All projectors can benefit from a calibration. In general, projectors need more calibration than TVs.
But only JVC has this autocal feature.
Great video. How about a follow up on how to ensure that you are calibrating both SDR and HDR? I ran as you suggested but I’m not sure it did both. Also, I had a heck of a time connecting directly to my laptop. Finally gave up and hooked to a wireless access point. Thanks!
Well it's not so much that you calibrate modes like that.
You just need to understand what Autocal adjusts. It adjusts the base calibration tables of which for an NX7 there are 4 gamma tables, and 16 color tables.
The combinations for the tables are as such:
For gamma, it's the 4 combinations of the 2 bulb modes, and 2 color filter modes.
For color, it's the same as above, except add in the combination of 4 manual iris ranges. The ranges are 0 to -3, -4 to -7, -8 to -11, and -12 to -15.
So you just need to make sure that the base gamma and color table have been calibrated for the mode settings you are actually using.
So lets say for SDR you use low bulb, no wide filter, and iris -5.
Easiest to autocal that would be to set your projector into a mode that uses those settings. So just use your SDR mode settings as we lists, and run a gamma+color autocal.
Then for HDR lets say you use high bulb, frame adapt HDR, wide filter on, and iris position 0.
Since you are using a different bulb mode and a different color filter mode you need a new gamma calibration for this. And you definitely need a new color calibration for this since for the same reason, but also because the iris is in a different group range.
You can;t calibrate in Frame Adapt mode, but you don't need to. Simply set up a mode that uses this combination of settings and it will become calibrated.
So set up a User2 mode for example with high lamp, BT2020 Wide color profile (this engages the wide color filter), and iris position 0 and then run another gamma+color autocal.
So now when you go to your actual HDR mode that you use (Frame Adapt) it shares the same base calibration tables that you just calibrated because it shares the same bulb mode, color filter mode, and iris group position as a mode that you calibrated.
There have been some negative experiences with the uniformity of the JVC DLA-NX7, ie. how uniform are the colors in different parts of the picture, large contrast variations in corners and left and right of center etc. Did you check this in your calibration and what was your results? And do you experience any bright corners or variation in colors in different parts of the picture? I want to buy the NX7 myself, but apparently the large tolerances the JVC NX7 provide seem to be a big issue and not just for single (maybe defective) units
I've seen 7 NX units and none of them had any of these problems that I noticed during calibration or usage FWIW.
@@nicko880 Thanks for your feedback and good to hear you have not seen this issue. I am referring to this thread www.avforums.com/threads/jvc-n5-rs1000-n7-rs2000-nx9-rs3000-factory-tolerance-and-issue-discussion-for-owners.2257217/ It would be nice to get your contribution there also as someone not having seen any issues.
Hans Henrik, yeah I am quite active on that thread since the beginning.
My username is SirMaster on AVS.
Cool video, shouldnt you in your light controlled room rather have calibrated for a 2.4 gamma instead of 2.2?
You can, i’ve found most people seem to like 2.2.
But autocal actually calibrates every gamma. It flattens your gamma curve appropriately and then you can simply select each gamma value in the projector menu and they will all be similarity accurate after calibration.
I wish I knew 1/100th of what you know Nick. 🤣
Sensational product, and well explained by that young man Youthie! Thanks for sharing brother!
( formerly Chill Bill 😉 )
Thanks Bryan glad you enjoyed the video
@@Youthman yeah man, but my concern is, if i want to calibrate my projector, how do i use the Spyder X if my projector doesn't have Ethernet?
Is it a JVC? Not every projector has AutoCal.
@@Youthman no it's an older Mitsubishi hc 4000, but i hear DisplayCal is the best programme to use...
Great Video !
it helped me out a lot .. The Netflix symbol was orange until I calibrated using the spyderX .. now it is RED like how it is on my TV.
SDR content is calibrated and it is making a lot of difference in skin tones and colors.
Tried the same for BT.2020 for HDR content ,But had a question regarding frame adapt HDR , this profile cannot be calibrated , does this mean it already has good color gamut ?
Thank you Nick you’ve answered my question in the other comment..
Youthman like always best content and very useful information..
Great video as allways. That will be next thing on the list. Right now I have just orderd UMIK1 and will play with my speakers. And I have a question. There is a lot of materials showing how to EQ your subs, or fronts. What about the back side and atmos speakers should we do something with them as well? Best regards
Most use a miniDSP 2x4HD to EQ and Time Align their subs. Lower frequencies are typically where your issues are.
Excelente
Excellent video now I want to do that to my projector.
Go for it
I'm pretty happy with my Epson 6050 but, had I known about this before purchasing, I might have sprung for the JVC. Maybe next time. Until then I'll just be mildly jealous. :)
Do you normally run in a mode that isn’t the “Frame Adapt HDR” mode? I found calibration was awesome when viewing my PC screen on the projector, but my Apple TV looks best in frame adapt HDR. Thanks for the video and for sharing your experience!!
You can't actually run JVC autocal in the Frame Adapt HDR mode, but that's not really how autocal works anyays. Autocal calibrates all picture modes, (SDR and HDR) all at once. Really the differences between them is just some math once you have proper measurements.
You just need to re-run autocal for each combination of bulb mode, wide color filter, and manual iris position that you will use on the projector, and autocal will end up calibrating each mode since autocal updates the base calibration tables in the projector itself. I.E. the proper white balance applies to all color modes, all gamma curves are mathematically calculated from autocal measurement, and same thing for the different color gamuts.
I have measured the other gamma curves and color gamuts after a single autocal and they were all similarly accurate after so long as you remain in the same bulb mode, color filter setting, and manual iris position.
Nicholas Oldroyd awesome! Thanks! I didn’t realize that it worked for all modes like that. Thank-you so much for the advice!
This was such a cool video and I especially appreciate the education. I'm not familiar with projectors or color calibration but this was great.
Thank you kindly. Glad you enjoyed the video
Dangit! Now I want a jvc projector just so I can do this lol. I mess with my epson alot, this would be awesome to do and get “perfect” calibration for a small cost. Does this only apply to the nx7 or even the nx5? Awesome video as always!
This applies to any LCoS JVC in the last several years.
Nicholas Oldroyd ahh ok ok, then this makes my decision easier :)
Nick mentions that the Spyder X Pro can be used for both color and gamma in this video but reading the JVC autocal discussion over at avscience, they mention that the X Pro cannot be used for color with the new V1.12 version of the autocal software. Only gamma can be calibrated and that the i1 Pro 2 or the older Spyder 5 series should be used for color. Would we be able to get Nick to verify this please?
The Spyder5 is not supported at all anymore with the v1.12 update.
You can use the SpyderX for both gamma and color. Some people prefer not to use the SpyderX for color since it is not as accurate as the much more expensive i1 Pro 2 meter.
It doesn't mean the SpyderX doesn't work. In all my experiences the SpyderX is far better than out of the box calibration. But no, it is not quite as accurate as the i1 Pro 2. It's a tradeoff of accuracy vs price. You can buy the cheaper meter and get a good calibration. Or you can also buy the more expensive meter and get a bit more accurate calibration.
The only thing that is for sure not accurate (or less accurate than out of the box) is trying to use the i1 Pro 2 for gamma. Don't do that.
@@nicko880 Awesome, what a relief! I placed an order for the X Pro after watching this video and am thankful that it'll do the job. Thank you for the quick reply, it's greatly appreciated.
what software/hardware had been used for taking the independent measurements' comparisons of the pre/post calibration especially the colors, gamma etc... ? Doesn't AutoCal have any comparison features pre/post the calibration to measure them?
Autocal does not have comparison features.
I used HCFR which is a completely free full-featured calibration suite:
sourceforge.net/projects/hcfr-2019/
I used an i1 Pro 2 spectrophotometer to do the before/after comparison measurements.
@@nicko880 thanks a Lot for the valuable info, i will give a try.
@@nicko880 why did you have to use the open source HCFR software separately for independent color measurement doesn't the ` i1 Pro 2 spectrophotometer` which u had used come bundled with the color measurement feature similar to what you did in the video?
@@webuserish As far as I know no. The X-Rite software is for automatic display calibration and generating .icc profiles for the operating system's color management system.
This doesn't give you all the measurement data output for comparing before and after calibration state.
Plus I know how to use HCFR and it's great and does everything you would ever need for calibration measurements. I have never used the X-Rite software.
@@nicko880 thank you.
This is packin some info! Well done
Thank you Greg
Good evening. Nick - I need help getting the JVC autocal software to work. Keeps telling me "Could not set up LAN connection." PLEASE help.
Thank you! Great info
Great video youthman as always. A small correction it's D65 K for Kelvin. And not 65,000 and would also be known as D6500 color temperature.
Haha yeah I realized after watching this back that I misspoke and said 65 thousand. At least you can still see the correct number on the screen of 6500.
Sweet Youthman. Does this program and Spyder Pro work with other projectors to? I have a Epson 9300 that needs adjustment. If not, do you know what i can use to cal my Epson?
It can, but no other projectors have autocal software besides JVC.
@@nicko880 ok. Tnx. I need to look for some options beside hiring a pro.. its just not worth it imo. As you say in video we can do this with some months apart. Paying a pro is for me a one time thing that last max 0.5 lamp life.
@@kristoffer9197 Manual calibration is definitely learnable, similar to learning how to use REW and MiniDSP. The free manual calibration tool I recommend is called HCFR.
Cool guide ...
I have done all the steps...calibrating in high bright lamp the result is a burned image and a so low brightness image in every color profile ... lamp has 1000h working time . Any suggestion? TKs for the help ( ps i think someone deleted my initial .INIT backup :( )
Did you manage to resolve this ? I did mine and it came out great. Was you spider X defective?
Can this calibration process be performed with Ultra Short Throw projectors? Can this software be used for other brands, or only JVC products?
It can definitely be used for other products, the question is does your product support it. Like JVC has software built into their projectors that can take the data that is measured from the SpyderX and use it to adjust settings within the projector
If your primaries are off your secondaries are too and everything in between is .Nice work
Love your videos!!! Greetings from México 🇲🇽!!! God Bless you... 👏
Thank you Isaac. Glad you’re enjoying the content
Great video. 85% performance? The delta E error were very small VERY impressive result. Looking for calibration equipment for my rs3000 maybe I should try this.
I'm trying to be conservative. Visually, autocal gets to very close to what a pro calibration does in my experience.
I think he was trying to not offend the professional calibrators LOL
That Spyder is not corrected to a spectro as Autocal does not even support that. So take the color readings with a grain of salt. Probably the color part of the calibration is better to be done with a spectro. Autocal only supports i1 Pro2. Now, some people will tell you thats not a reference spectro.... and the discussion keeps on going. I think 85% is a fair assesment.
@@cristianburu Actually autocal does support using a correction matrix for Spyder colorimeters.
The option is called 'matrixOfSensor' and is located in the file %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\JVCKENWOOD\Projector Calibration Software *\init.xml
@@nicko880 Sweet, nevertheless this is beyond 99,9% of users will ever use. I will check it, my projector will comes in 3 weeks.
Great video! Simple setup snd easy to follow along. Is there a similar software I can use for the Epson 6050ub?
No, there is nothing like this for Epson or frankly any other projector. One of the big benefits to JVC IMO.
Love this video youth man. To me very informative. I will be ordering a spiderx. Just a sidenote I don't understand how anybody could give this a thumbs down.
Thanks Dave. Glad you enjoyed the video. Some people are unhappy with their lives. I just choose to have empathy for them
wow, looks so easy. Can I use this method for Sony 4K projector?
No, this autocal software is only for JVC.
No other projector has an autocal feature, and covering a manual calibration process would take some background understanding and an hours long video that would take several days to shoot.
Great content! I was hoping you would do more calibration videos. Keep it up.
Thank you
Thanks for a great video. But I wonder what my settings should look like in N5, if I want to calibrate both sdr / hdr in low lamp mode at the same time? If I have Iris in different position, two calibration? Thanks Mikael
Just run an autocal with the projector in each iris and lamp mode combination that you use for SDR and HDR.
Hey Michael did you do the Autocal with the NZ8?
Ryan brought his spectro to calibrate but was having issues with his software so we didn’t get it calibrated. I just used Audio Advice recommended settings.
Thank you Youthman, I just watched the video as it was posted on the JVC NX thread on avsforums. However after I posted a reply some guys are saying the spyder x pro isnt as good as the iPro2 as they say it doesnt do colour, yet your video does say it does colour and the specs also say the spyderx pro does colour. Can you comment please as I want to buy one or the other.... Its easier for me to buy the spyderx pro as they are available in NZ and are alot cheaper than the i1Pro. Thank you again...
Hey Robert I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’m not video calibration expert. All I can share is the results that Nick was able to achieve using the SpyderX.
He has been using it for many years and also has some of the higher in calibration tools. The point of the video is the show that you can get good results with the SpiderX.
If you look at the comments on this video, you will see many others that purchase it and also had great results.
Unfortunately I cannot speak on the i1Pro as I have never used it myself.
@@Youthman thats good enough for me, I have just bought a spyderX pro, lets see if I too get a better result on my NX9. Thank you. ....BTW how does one do a separate calibration for HDR with the filter in?
Robert Thompson, yes in my experience you get better results than stock, even with a SpyderX meter.
If you don’t think it looks better after you can always undo the calibration settings.
To calibrate for HDR with the filter in simply run the autocal process again with the projector in a mode that has the filter enabled like BT2020 wide color profile.
You should be able to do user1, BT2020 Wide, 6500K, Gamma 2.2. This would be acceptable to calibrate your projector for HDR with filter mode.
The color profile is called BT2020 wide after the 3.50 firmware update. Before the 3.50 firmware its just called BT2020 which always uses the filter.
Absolutely great demo! Would love if you can do a video explaining how to best use JVC’s new firmware on their projector’s.
Thanks. I haven’t updated mine yet
Could kindly advise if this type of calibration can be achieved with sony VW360ES? What software and hardware will be required
There is no automatic calibration (autocal) software for Sony projectors. You would need to perform a manual calibration.
Did you calibrate HDR 10 high lamp mode, as well as frame adapt hdr?
Yes, I calibrated frame adapt HDR. I just stuck to SDR in the video because it’s common and simpler to show and explain.
@@nicko880 does this work for the oled c9?
The software I downloaded from JVC wouldn’t let me use the frame adapt HDR picture mode. It said I had to select another one. I did that and tried to make a custom profile, but the frame adapt default picture mode still looks better than my custom user profile....
Spencer Bigum Gregg Loewen calibrated mine, and my hdr-10 mode looks better than my frame adapt mode.
Thanks for this! Sorry to go a bit off-topic, but have you or anyone here compared the RS1000 (NX5 )and RS2000 (NX7) side by side?
This definitely was a very nice video!!
Thank you kindly
Nice. I need some help with mine too
Will the spider work on the epson 5050? Also what are your thoughts between the two PJ nx7 and 5050j
I had the 5040UB before upgrading to the NX7. No comparison. NX7 has much better color science, ridiculously dark black levels and higher contrast. Add Frame Adapt and ability to Autocal, the JVC is hard to beat. The epson is brighter but at the cost of black levels, and contrast.
Thanks for sharing this is very important for all JVC 4K owners will this also work on my JVC dla-570r 4K projector?
Yes, but you need a Spyder5 meter for that projector rather than a SpyderX.
@@nicko880 could it not work with a Spiderx, since the spyder5 is to my knowledge discontinued?
I would like to do this on my jvc x7500
Johannes Rosholm Mygind, no you can’t use the SpyderX with the x7500.
Pick up a Spyder5 from AVSForum Classifieds Accessories section. I see a few on there right now for good prices.
Does calibration program come with the spyderX ? Asking for a non JVC projector
A calibration program for computers comes with the SpyderX.
The calibration program for JVC projector is downloaded for free from the JVC website.
It was very interesting I like the video clip ..cheers
Thanks Gary
Do you have to save the projector's original values before you begin an autocal?
No, on your first ever autocal run, the software will automatically save the projector's stock calibration data to a file called the INIT file (it has Init in its file name). You can use this to restore the stock calibration at any time. It saves it to the folder you have the autocal software set to use in the autocal settings screen.
So if you don't have a JVC projector and want to use it on another projector or a TV does the company that makes the Spyder Pro have software similar to the JVCs?
I would recommend using free software called HCFR and DisplayCAL for calibrating other displays. Autocal is strictly a JVC feature and no other projector brands that I know of offer anything similar.
But also if you are doing manual calibrations, I would look at an X-Rite meter such as an i1 Display Studio or i1 Display Pro Plus as they are more accurate and more flexible for general calibration.
The main reason to use the Spyder here is because it is the only colorimeter compatible with JVC autocal.
About to purchase one of these for my JVC NX9, is the elite worth purchasing over the PRO? is there more features it can do to my JVC projector that the PRO can not?
At the end of the video, Nick says no, the Pro is all you need.
The Pro and Elite are the same physical meters.
The only difference is the software it comes with which is completely unrelated to autocal.
Only get the elite if you want to use the included software for its other purposes.
@@nicko880 I was under the impression that the elite can also be used for TVs and other projectors which could be worth while for someone that has multiple displays in their home, and that the pro seems to only advertise computer monitor calibrations. As my main purpose of purchase is for my JVC NX9, I just wanted to be sure the pro wasn't missing features of calibrating my JVC NX9 (e.g.contrast, brightness, sharpness...) that the elite would do and be worth spending the extra money on. Thanks guys for replying and helping me with my decision.
@@jasonpipkin8060 Well brightness, contrast, and sharpness you don't use a meter for at all, but use your eyes with the right test patterns. These can be found for free as well. Brightness and contrast should use what are called black clipping and white clipping patterns.
I wouldn't even recommend bothering with the Spyder software as it's only good for generating .icc profiles for a PC which doesn't have much use for home theater.
There is much better free software you can use for calibration such as DisplayCAL and HCFR and it doesn't matter whether you have a Pro or Elite as they are the exact same hardware.
Nicholas Oldroyd thanks again guys, looks like my spyderX pro comes in tomorrow. So I will be taking a lot of before pics to compare the difference. I’m excited to see the difference as I’ve already been impressed with this JVC projector. One last question, before running the calibration does the color, tint, gamma/and other settings need to be placed back on default? As I have made a few slight changes.