Traditional Karate Explained
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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As a Muay Thai clinch fighter, and as someone who has trained a little in Karate, I find this super interesting. And you guys are amazing. So clear.
so humbling to hear from a muay thai fighter, we really appreciate the kind words. We always love hearing from those outside of karate cause we really feel like it's all the same. we're all human beings in martial arts so knowledge exchange should have no bounds. Thanks again for the comment, good luck on your career and hope to meet you one day!
totally! that was a great fight
@@karatecultureI have a had my kid in karate and it is too impractical so I don't know what the point of my kid doing karate or taekwondo if the arts have been turned into total trash, I'm going to get him into systems, tai chi or jiujitsu
@@JohnTSmith-jw2gq Karate is certainly NOT trash. On the other hand certain Dojo's can be trash. I have my Nedan in Goju Ryu. And I can assure you that it is health giving and very practical form of self-defense. What style did you enoll your child in?
“The karate that has been introduced to Tokyo is actually just a part of the whole. The fact that those who have learnt karate there feel it only consists of kicks & punches, and that throws & locks are only to be found in judo or jujutsu, can only be put down to a lack of understanding … Those who are thinking of the future of karate should have an open mind and strive to study the complete art” - Kenwa Mabuni 1938. I would encourage people to look into the Tuite (grappling) and Tegumi (Wrestling) techniques already within Okinawan Karate (not Japanese). Okinawan styles are a mixture of Southern Kung Fu styles and Okinawan grappling and wrestling, Tuite and Tegumi, but with the striker in mind. So Karate already had grappling, joint locks and wrestling built into it, even in the kata. Article "Tegumi - Karate’s Forgotten Range" by Ian Abernethy is worth a read. Ian Abernethy also has books and videos to karate grappling and wrestling.... Just food for thought. May you enjoy the videos below....
Practical Kata Bunkai: Some Karate Gripping - ruclips.net/video/p5NKlicXFn0/видео.html
Practical Kata Bunkai: Comparing karate throwing with judo throwing - ruclips.net/video/ZEeZ-0bjS0c/видео.html
A Karate Grappling Drill (Pinan / Heian Sandan Hip Throw) - ruclips.net/video/f9wVccbmvEA/видео.html
Practical Kata Bunkai: Basic Ground Escapes Line Drill - ruclips.net/video/uapc9hrYvQk/видео.html
Practical Kata Bunkai: Ground-hold following on from Naihanchi / Tekki bunkai - ruclips.net/video/r9lk319v18E/видео.html
Reverse Punch(s) into Takedown Combination - ruclips.net/video/CfYmOoYgQLo/видео.html
"It is believed that the native wrestling art of Tegumi, along with the Kempo systems brought to Okinawa by the Chinese, were forerunners of the art that eventually became known as karate."...
I've been doing karate for only 5 months and I'm 32 so imagine me competing in sport karate against these skinny kids? Just makes no sense to me. Your videos showed me the real path I want to follow. Karate is not about medals or belts. It's about self defense.
Thanks guys!
dude yes! and congrats on starting your journey in karate, good luck and let us know if you have any questions we can cover!
Henrick Boot thats the problem with karate these days its become sport
@@karateculture learning at home good or bad?
@@mysticalcarter3987 best to find a competent instructor, but there are tons of resources to help you learn at home. do what you can to follow your passion
@@karateculture thank you. The problem is distance and variety. Like over 40 miles in some cases.
This content is seriously inspiring . I train Shotokan Karate and I am learning so much with your videos. I mean it's great that you put all this content out there for free , you have no idea how much I am learning. thanks guys
that's so cool to hear! it's very humbling to think 2 regular dudes can motivate people to train more. Keep it up and hope to train with you one day!
I'd very much welcome the opportunity to train with you guys. you are doing an amazing job .thank you
sparing with shotokan people is kind of made my head dizzy...they are so fast delivering strikes
Me too but starting at home. I'm almost 40 no time for kids ego
Take it from a old school Shuri Ryu Karateka...you guys are spot on. I appreciate what the both of you are doing for the preservation of true Okinawan Te. Osu
that's great to hear, thanks for the comment it's always great hearing from people who've been on the path longer than we have
It's so refreshing to see people working the traditional martial arts (karate ) who understand the actual applications of the kata in a real combat (street fighting ) situation, waaay too many people have been crapping on the traditional martial arts and saying it doesn't work in mma or against brazilian jujitsu, WRONG!!!!
Wow. I've never thought of grappling as a possible explanation for the depth of traditional stances. That makes a lot of sense to me; if karate is only a striking art, as has sometimes been claimed, why go any lower than absolutely necessary to strike? Clearly, depth of stance and pursuit of stability acknowledges the possibility of clinching, as well as an intention to fight effectively in it. Very illuminating, thank you.
glad you got something out of it! you summarized it perfectly!
Michael Elliott karate is not only a striking art. Old school okinawan styles of karate are complete martial arts that emphasize striking, takedowns and grappling and locks as well. It wasnt til karate was modernized to try to get recognized by the educational system that alot of these practices were removed so to speak. But alot of the positions still exist in the katas
Traditionally karate stances aren't that deep. That's something from the Japanese.
Look at the pictures from the late 19th century-preWWI from Okinawa and you'll see the stances are much higher than in the post-WWII period
Yes yes similar thought too
Hah. And yet the sparring is never in anyway connected to the receiving forearms "blocks" in kihon as well as the hikite. And the kata is never broken down. With my shito ryu sensei, at least we had the naihanchi broken down for the specific techniqies. I just asked a fellow student back then to have a sparring session thatbdidnt stop after connecting to play with kata.
This video is spot on! True karate is a grappling art! This is why it does poorly against boxing and kickboxing. Side note I recommend investing in better camera/lighting/ sound. It will really help with conveying your message that the world needs to hear!
Well done. I don't practice Karate, but this is the method I use when analyzing, training, and teaching my own art. It's good to see other TMA practitioners keeping their art alive. Keep up the good work!
I have never trained in Karate, but I have spent the past few years training some Silat, and what amazes me about what you guys have discovered is that these concepts (make an entry into the clinch, combine grappling and striking, push and pull, break his posture, etc.) are all very much what I've been learning in Silat. Amazing how we're all doing the same thing in the end.
These guys are pioneers and revialists. I'm trying to do the same thing
with Korean arts but all the taeguks are pretty much Japanese. Black
Belt forms still have Korean elements to them.
thanks for the humbling kind words, good luck on your endeavor! it might seem tough in the beginning but there's a need out there and you can definitely do it
I've recently just started training as a novice again after dropping out of Shotokan at Shodan grade. I am now looking into Kyokushin which is a totally different ball game, loving these videos.
Lifelong Kyokushin practitioner here. These guys are spot on. OSU!
Gentlemen, I continue to enjoy your videos and your fresh energy. I have commented on your previous videos and admire how you keep to the roots of your martial art. Particularly, Kata or what we call "form" in Gung Fu. Though a lifelong practitioner of the Chinese martial arts, I have the highest respect for Okinawan Karate as they developed a deadly fighting system to suit their particular needs. My teacher stressed that each Kata (form) is a gift from your teacher. Kata is a collection of effective deadly skills, proven on the battlefield. Each is arranged in a specific order to preserve the techniques for future generations. Today, very little emphasis is placed on strong Katas. I was taught that each has hidden techniques that can only be unlocked with time and practice. Each step is a hidden kick, each turn is a hidden throw, each block is a hidden joint lock and/or break, etc. In my youth, I was taught some forms that I felt were useless or even silly. However, as the years have passed, I find that through practice I continue to discover these hidden treasures. Once discovered, they are already mastered because of years of practicing that particular movement. Yet, each technique within a form is actually a broad range of techniques that can be applied in numerous ways, only limited by one's knowledge and imagination. Additionally, each individual martial art is malleable in that it can incorporate techniques from other systems flawlessly. Hence there is the difference between fighters and killers. The Okinawans were obviously the latter. As I observe your level of skills, I can offer no advice except to train constantly and pay no mind to people who train less than you do. The martial arts world is full of egos and naysayers. The truest of deadly killers are the people passed by unnoticed each day. They are humble, kind, and respectful because they know how to quickly and efficiently to end a life. Much like our martial arts ancestors did. Much respect and a long and healthy life.
thank you very much for the kind words, we always love hear from practitioners outside of karate. And it's great to see the similarities among all styles. We feel like if everyone were humble enough to share knowledge and exchange from one another there would be less conflict in the world. Thank you again, hope to meet and train with you one day
I'm a BJJ practitioner and recently have added karate to my training schedule. I find the techniques you're explain to be very applicable in a bjj context and you're videos are part of the reason I wanted to get into karate. I do have a question why most karate dojos don't show these practical applications the way you have applied them? Keep up ther great work guys!
I'm not a practitioner of any form of Karate (though if I had the chance...) but I respect it a lot. I always took on the mindset with kata in the art I was taught, and any martial art in general, that kata was for engraving the movements and principles of the art into one's body and mind. I don't know why but I like thinking of it like that, motivates me to keep pushing myself. Anyhow, I got a lot of respect for you guys and a lot of respect for karate. I've learned things from watching your videos. Thanks for putting them out! :D
thank you! it's awesome to hear positivity from people outside of karate. you have the right mindset about training, eventually it defines who you are rather than just being another hobby. thanks again for the comment, hope to train with you one day!
If you look at a study done in UK and Europe on the most common methods of attack, it immediately shows applications for kata people haven't thought of. The term used was "habitual acts of violence". An individual named R.J. Nash prioritized the list for a book he was writing, but my understanding is he passed away w/o the book being published. Here are 3 of his categories that have been posted by a person that got to see a working manuscript.
Male on Male, Close Quarters
Offences against the person, male on female
The Most Common Wrist Grips, Male On Female
What was missing was common trapping of the limbs for male on male. Just talk to some bouncers to fill that category in ;)
BTW, Have a couple of friends that have worked as professional bouncers for decades and they verified the lists as being pretty accurate. A couple other friends that are pros when it comes to dealing with violence because of their occupations (Rory Miller and Marc Mac Young) also largely agree with the lists.
Patrick McCarthy uses the term habitual acts of physical violence. I think the list has over 100 types of assault catalogued, but the list is not prioritized.
It's amazing when you look at Chin Na books and old drawings, how many look like a move out of a karate kata. All Chinese arts had their own implementation of Chin Na, so it only makes sense that the these would be included with karate's Chinese roots, along with the native Okinawan grappling.
Could you guys do a breakdown of Lyoto Machida and the various ways he applies his karate? He's just a masterful striker and comes from a very respected black belt and father Yoshido Machida. He's done so well for himself and think would make for a very interesting and educational video.
we can look into it for sure, maybe that can be a series to break down karate fighters in combative sports
Learning more from you guys about how to use these movements than I have in 8 years at my dojang by just doing them. Good stuff!
Thank you.
Simply another great vid with great explanations for Kata! Better than I could ever explain myself.
Great video, you have a good understanding of the clinch and grappling present in karate but people don't realize. Awesome.
thanks for seeing that, we appreciate the positive comments!
This speaks on many levels to me. It coincided with much of my interpretations on kata applications which, much of the interpretations were very much connected from kihon, as well as using dead weight to pull your partner. Much of my training involved these techniques. I just dont think my sensei fully connected our takedown techniques with kata in our training. DISCLAIMER: Except for naihanchi which he specializes in, he attributed some of our techniques in karate wrestling to naihanchi. And also there might be the problem of omission since we speak in broken english, he was Japanese and i was Filipino. So he could not understand some of the english words i try to ask, and he couldnnot explqin wome japanese expressions or explanations in english.
For my context, i actually started with FMA and some basic modified silat where our techniques could be transposed from our dance forms. Much of which uses hand trapping, and limb and joint manipulations with or without weapons. I still love weaponry applications in FMA and our close ties with our Silat brothers, but I still consider karate as my base art. I was able to appreciate the lessons i had a decade back after gainung more sparring and wrestling experience in karate.
I just used my perspective wrought from silat and FMA that forms had practical purpose. Old karate styles bring with them something akin to narrowmindedness. And i would rather have a working interpretation with resisting partners and drills than to maintain this blueprint of movements.
I am still thankful to my sensei's teachings, much of my style of fighting was fit for my body type. I admire my sensei for not teaching me the sport karate that i loathed, but focused on a more combat focused sparring sessions we at least had more stand up wrestling from the clinch position or at least to connect an atemi first before attempting for limb/shoulder control.
Although my sensei advised me to not focus on interpreting kata, i see that much of our wrestling, sweeps and throws and arm/shoukder manipulations could be seen from kata like naihanchi.
Moving on, although i hold the same perception that karate kata comes alive when your opponents arm is connected to you voa a clinch or a grab, i have never thought of using the cat stance and the first movement of pinyan yondan as a means of hand checking the shoulder and snaking your arm to control the opponent's reaching arm. There is much to learn from this karate. The earlier sparring practice session you had was closer to the karate that i know of. Im glad that each time i watch this video, karate kata comes alive.
This is somerhing that id introduce to my senior in FMA since we both have karate/FMA/Silat background.
Awesome video. I've been doing shorin-ryu for 22 years and a 4th Dan. Best explanation I've seen.
humbling to hear from those who've been down the path longer than us, we appreciate the kind words and are happy to represent the art well
same ,im 7th Dan tho
Another great video. Thank you sharing. Wish I could learn from you guys.
thanks for the comment! You're welcome anytime if you find yourself in central texas!
Still one of the best videos on karate out there...! I love wearing your patches
started out in karate & switched to BJJ... crazy how many grappling techniques are in the katas! never learned this at all at my old school! many thanks friends.
Brilliant!! Over the last 5 years or so my karate has moved much more in this direction. This kind of thinking is much more realistic and "traditional" in my view. Keep it coming guys. Thanks for your efforts.
you made me wanna learn traditional karate so bad.
great content! keep it up!
thanks! it's never too late to start! good luck on your search
This is wonderful we used to drill this all the time in Tomiki aikido. About 15 yrs ago it was heavily hybridised with judo . I love watching your vids . Truly the system of one.
What I like is, kata is so free to interpretation, you can adapt it to basically anything. I doubt arm drags and such we really known and practiced back in the day but that doesn't matter because we can incorporate them in kata and our movements. Karate is really a malleable, organic system and I believe dogma really has no place in it.
I think you guys are adding so much value to karate without taking anything away. Proving again and again karate is a lifelong endeavour.
Oh my god I wish I had this info 20 years ago studying Yamashita Shorin Ryu. Back then it was all about blocking and kicking. This is so much more fascinating and useful. The one thing I'm wondering is what if your opponent is much stronger than you? It seems counter intuitive to be in close to someone who could essentially take you out with a bear hug.
Totally agree with your points of view
thank you!
“The karate that has been introduced to Tokyo is actually just a part of the whole. The fact that those who have learnt karate there feel it only consists of kicks & punches, and that throws & locks are only to be found in judo or jujutsu, can only be put down to a lack of understanding … Those who are thinking of the future of karate should have an open mind and strive to study the complete art” - Kenwa Mabuni 1938. I would encourage people to look into the Tuite (grappling) and Tegumi (Wrestling) techniques already within Okinawan Karate (not Japanese). Okinawan styles are a mixture of Southern Kung Fu styles and Okinawan grappling and wrestling, Tuite and Tegumi, but with the striker in mind. So Karate already had grappling, joint locks and wrestling built into it, even in the kata. Article "Tegumi - Karate’s Forgotten Range" by Ian Abernethy is worth a read. Ian Abernethy also has books and videos to karate grappling and wrestling.... Just food for thought. May you enjoy the videos below....
Practical Kata Bunkai: Some Karate Gripping - ruclips.net/video/p5NKlicXFn0/видео.html
Practical Kata Bunkai: Comparing karate throwing with judo throwing - ruclips.net/video/ZEeZ-0bjS0c/видео.html
A Karate Grappling Drill (Pinan / Heian Sandan Hip Throw) - ruclips.net/video/f9wVccbmvEA/видео.html
Practical Kata Bunkai: Basic Ground Escapes Line Drill - ruclips.net/video/uapc9hrYvQk/видео.html
Practical Kata Bunkai: Ground-hold following on from Naihanchi / Tekki bunkai - ruclips.net/video/r9lk319v18E/видео.html
Reverse Punch(s) into Takedown Combination - ruclips.net/video/CfYmOoYgQLo/видео.html
"It is believed that the native wrestling art of Tegumi, along with the Kempo systems brought to Okinawa by the Chinese, were forerunners of the art that eventually became known as karate."
Good stuff guys! I have been training in the arts for 42 years now. I started with judo, did several different arts while being airborne infantry, kickboxed, did a whole bunch. Finally found a home with Okinawa Kempo with my instructor, who was trained by Seiyu (Taika) Oyata. I agree wholeheartedly that Okinawa arts are pretty complete. "Kurotty" has become pretty much a generic term among the populace and you are helping to educate them.
thank you! we are always humbled to hear from those who've trained longer than us, we'll continue to keep the flame going for old school karate
Buona sera
Ho visto questo canale da poco.
Da praticante di kung fu vi faccio i miei complimenti per il vostro operato 👍
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Saluti dall Italia👋🇮🇹
You guys are a breath of fresh air. Arigato!
I do use mouth wash regularly and floss, lol just kidding, thank you!
Nothing worse than a stinky Sensei
A lot of these concepts you are talking about are in Traditional Korean Hapkido. I think you guys would enjoy checking it out more! Utilizing your enemy's energy(redirection), controlling the joint(anchoring), etc...Great Content!
I adore this concept, this channel and everything else. You guys are truly amazing.
Great video guys! I am a Hung Gar practitioner but dabble in MMA - I love your approach and use similar concepts for my training! Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much fellas this video shed so much new light on Okinawan karate
This video is excellent for the karate comunnity, right to watch later!
Hello. First and foremost thank u and congratulations for your amazing job, keep it up!.
I've resumed practicing Karate after a long while and sometimes I don't have the patience to keep on practicing because either I think kata are useless or I am not being taught properly. I always feel tempted to turn to contact sports deeming them more realistic or practical. But with a really good job like yours I truly believe It's worth the effort and patience to continue learning. Thanks again!
I never figured out that there is so much hidden in kata! so glad I found this chanel! :D
Traditional martial arts has a wealth of knowledge, but people need to find the right instructor to get good training. My instructors were taught by Gary Alexander who is a 10th dan blackbelt. Gary Alexander was the 1st full contact karate champion in Canada at a Mas Tsuruoka tournament and the first champion at Mas Oyama's 1st Kyokushin Tournament at Madison square garden when face punches were allowed. Gary Alexander mixed a variety of traditional martial arts together like Okinawan isshinryu, judo, aikido, aikijitsu, shotokan, boxing, jiujitsu, and added his own innovation to defeat all the fighter in which he faced. Traditional martial arts and modern systems based on traditional arts are usually proven styles unless the training is watered down.
Good video. Keep it up, gentlemen! Love what you are doing here.
thank you!
Hello KarateCulture I love your channel and I have been following it for a long time. I would like to make a constructive comment. You should put subtitles in Spanish because I know a lot of people in Mexico who practice okinawa's tragic karate and many people do not speak English. You would have more people and really do a lot of people a favor. There really is a lot of knowledge with a style very similar to yours.
So this concept of karate before it has been called the ancestry of combat (karate- old okinawan pronunciation) to the art/way of unarmed combat (karate/karate dou- japanese). As so this concept of karate was an form of a underground system during the Satsuma clan took over Ryukyu island. To this word "underground" in relation to this word "nomad." I was able to identify what kind of person I have shaped it for myself. But what does this has to do with an video? In which I want to bring up this summary of I've been conditioning myself to get in shape for all sorts of situation. Currently, I am sticking to an basics like (running, push ups, squats/lunges, plank/situps, and pull ups). Then I do a dumbell, kettle bell, and medicine ball exercises. I also do traditional combat training consisting of wing chun, karate, mongolian wrestling, and taido for solid movement training. Most of my combat training I don't have a good experience in (except for karate which I have experience). However, as most of my training I would like to rationalize more of a movement/obstacles for hunting or hiking and combat (unarmed/armed) as a defensive aid. To simplify it, its like I'm living my life as a nomad in my own artistic ways.
Phenomenal!
The Kenpo Gokui no Bubishi
The Eight Precepts
• A person’s soul is the same as the dragon (soft) and the tiger(hard).
• The blood circulating is similar to the rhythms of the sun and the moon.
• The manner in which one drinks and spits is either tiger (hard) or dragon (soft).
• Lack of balance is a heavy weight (more complex concept that your "dead weighting").
• Response must result without conscious thought (moving meditation...kata and kihon...develops mushin...trained reflexive response).
• The space between combatants (maai) and structure (stance and posture) will be decisive.
• See what is unseen (develop keen situational and personal awareness).
• Expect the unexpected (we commit to technique, but do not OVER-commit. We take what the situation gives us and maintain our ability to adapt to chaos).
great points, thanks!
Outstanding.
I love y'all content great videos great work thanks for the knowledge
Jeremiah Wills thanks!
It is well known that there were many karateka in the 1930s that use to enter judo competitions that allowed open hand strikes and kicks, but no closed fists, and would win very easily. Judoka apparently hated it once they knew that these karateka had entered. They couldnt get close to them. Whether it was a karateka deflecting there forarm with there forarm for a grab and almost breaking it, or a karateka knocking them out with a palm uppercut or palm hook when the judoka went head first arms out for a grab. Judoka were terrified of them. Possibly one of the reasons why judo went to strictly grappling. Karateka were also better grapplers in that age as well. There throws werent just meant to take a person down, but usually break there neck or shoulder. like a half way hiptoss if you can picture that not something you want to do to someome on the street nowadays obviously. The karate i was taught worked in streetfights. The karate at strip malls is usually just professional pajama tag and pajama dance routines. Judo is the father of bjj and judoka use to be terrified of karateka. Now judoka/bjj are tapping out karateka like a joke. The makiwara training is gone. The timing training is still kind of there, no grappling training like before, no pressure point knowledge like before, no unique strike training like hooking and diving palms which are very effective. No forarm breaking with uke, or blocks like before like when someone tries to grab u and you deflect with own forarm to maintain balance and then set up an unpredictable strike. No knowledge of counter grappling with deadly strikes. We have processed karate on our world now not real karate. And we all know that anything processed isnt good for you and gives you diabetes and high blood pressure. Processed karate might do that aswell. Everyone is leaving out tradional blocks and losing faith in strikes in karate. They have no idea the power they possess. I almost had my arm broken the first time it was blocked by a real karateka. And it could of been. Trust me. I appreciate your efforts karate culture.
Respects to O sensei. Osu.
thanks for sharing, that's a great snippet of history you shared!
xon tyr What is diving palms? Also do you have links showing Judokas getting beat by Karateka.
That's a load of 💩 I don't even do judo, Jigoro Kano specifically took out strikes as well as various other moves from judo randori to allow people to practice in real-time without frequent injury. This happened before judo existed, when they had to come up with competition rules for jujutsu, which doesnt rely on strikes because it was meant for dealing with armed/armored combatants.
Great content!
Outstanding, keep up the great work. More Crane Kicks please. Thanks.
crane kicks. check!
Love what you guys are doing! Great info.
thanks for the kind words, have a good one!
Man, I love you guys. Would love to train in that kind of inclose style of Karate. Pretty sure there's nothing comparable on Long Island NY.
I teach Seiyu Oyata's Ryukyu Kempo a full contact kara-te system. There's 2 dojos on Long Island that teach this system. Similar concepts these two gentlemen are showing.
I had no idea. Have a webpage, facebook page, or twitter?
smithtownkravmaga.com/Instructors/Sensei-Raul-Perez
Aaah, the Krav Maga name would've never turned my head towards you, honestly. lol Thanks for sharing. Hopefully I can check it out someday soon!
EC Dojo sold my partnership many years ago. Being a CPA is very time consuming. I teach friday nights. Old student and friend bought out the Krav studio and asked me and some others to supplement the program with classical okinawa te. Don't limit yourself to names or systems. I've learned a great deal about my system by collaborating with many different fighting systems. True Okinawan arts are a collaboration of many fighting systems and masters. Stop by when you're ready.
I'm an aikidoka and was recently made regional director for the Kyushojitsu World Alliance for the southern United States.
I've studied lots of other styles and come to similar conclusions.
My sensei was unlike most aikido teachers to begin with. We did live sparring all the time and applied techniques with a sort of ferocity uncommon amongst aikidoka today.
Anyway, I got into taijiquan and Kung Fu before I actually started aikido, and my study of kyushojitsu (or qin na when looking at Chinese martial arts) was constant throughout all of it. One day in aikido everything just kind of "clicked" together, and this "eureka moment" as you might call it was brought on with seeing everything as more "inside" fighting.
Suddenly rather than trying to catch punches out of the air and execute wrist locks, I'm rushing in, throwing elbows, hooking punches, and doing locks and throws from clinch range.
I looked at taiji (I refuse to write it as "Tai Chi" anymore for reasons I've addressed elsewhere) forms and started seeing the qin na limb destructions and throws.
So I believe you guys are spot on with your theory. Good work! I hope more come to see it this way.
Now that I'm thinking of it, one of the biggest complaints about the functionality of karate is the hand position at the waist instead of up in a guard... But pulling someone's arm down to your lower dantien is one of the the first things we learned in aikido to make your throws and locks more powerful. So pulling one arm to your hip while using the other hand to punch them in the face makes a lot more sense!
Two guys talking about Karate being a grappling art... with a makiwara in the background...
Priceless!
Karate for sport is not bad, but it eliminates the moves or the techniques for the self defense.
The spirit of it suddenly disappears.
It is my opinion.
So, what you guys have done are awesome.
Keep it up.
How the World would change if every dojo would teach this!!!!!
yes! that's what we say every time we train! we gotta change the karate world!!!
I love your ideas and Concepts :)
thank you!
i love you guys
im a big fan
Really interesting! I'm wondering what your guys' backgrounds are to have decided to focus on Karate this way.
Very Good.
beautiful work guys,,,,thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for watching David.
Karate means 'Empty Hand' but originally it was called 'Tang Hand' because its parent style was Fujian White Crane Kung Fu from China during the Tang Dynasty. In Korea its called Tang Soo Do or 'Tang Dynasty Fist' but in Taekwondo the poomse is same as the karate kata so why did Taekwondo split from Tang Soo Do? Is it because the rules are different (karate is punches and kicks while taekwondo is only kicks?)
Classical art still very modern today
I like it!
This is something i have thought about before
Hello,
With some slight diffrent nuances, I share and teach this way of thinking for quit some years now. And most additional experiences tend to bring confirmation.
Interesting to see i am not alone in the middle of todays karate communities . Despite some abvious logical reasoning and feeling, and some very plausible historical interpretation it remains difficult to even get it added as on option , next to the vast number sterile and far-fetched views, often considered as ultimate and sole truth , let stand partly replace it. I am traveling regularly for martial arts trying to understand, to discover and learn. I too am mainely a Shurite follower but was lucky to gather some small experiences by traveling to respectivel country of origin of NahaTe , Shaolin Kung Fu , Okinawa sumo, Mongolian Wrestling , Muay Thai and Boran,...
I think I can add / exchange a few ideas/conclutions with you .....
Maybe we could get in contact and train together or exchange ideas during one of my trips in the future ?
Best regards.
J-L
Great!
Great video guys!
thanks man! hope all is well!
great. thanks
I remember my dad teaching me when i was younger... Like 5 or something... If i cant evade a bully... Push with my body, cover my head with forearms .. Strike with elbows once theyre close..
Gladly i only had to use it once ,...
He really simplified it for me... do you guys think there are better ways.. we could teach children or other people that really dont have time to train...
Great job on this video!
I think out of pure ignorance Karate got turned into sport Kickboxing which makes the 80% of the techniques in Kata look useless until you try training in Judo or Jujitsu and then you realize that's what you are actually leaning in Kata.
some good knee strikes but then again you get that in my system Kajukenbo which is related tangentially to karate. You really can go wrong with knee strikes.
'Would love to see a karate-based solution, to the problem of two men grabbing you, if/when you have time to pursue the subject. Thanks!
Great explanation you guys! Legitimate MA has a focus on selfdefense. What you stated is the difference between true academic arts and sport MA. Great job again! Very good principles and concepts!
thank you so much for the positive comment! glad you enjoyed the video and we're glad experienced martial artists generally agree with what we say, thank you!
This is totally awesome
Look at the Ryu Kyu Islands before Japan (shows Mugen breakdancing fighting style)....they liked to break dance. With everything.
NICE but don't forget that karate IS complete MA so long distance and in and out footwork are also part of it just as clinch or grappling so you just need to find what work best for you, force that but train other parts too...
Having trained in Jiu-jitsu after earning a black belt in Karate I see all the grappling techniques in Kata and have a new appreciation for them. Karate is NOT Japanese Kickboxing. In Jiu-jitsu there are a lot of partner training that I think is what Bunkai is supposed to be. Sparring rules in most Karate styles is essentially kickboxing which is a mistake they should be more like MMA and Bunkai should be used more as partner drills of the techniques in Kata.
What's your take on Tameshiwari
Is it necessary skill or a skill good to have in one's arsenal ....
Hello! The best! !! Excuseme, I don't speak english. Its posible subtitle in spanish? Thanks! Congratulationes for your channel!
Thank you! I would have to figure out how to do that (and how to speak spanish) but I'll look into it!
Basicamente hablan de mantener posturas firmes en situaciones de forcejeo, de ocupar el espacio del otro y aprobechar la situación, usar los bloqueos como recurso para maniobrar en vez de usar la fuerza y mantener distancias cortas en la pelea. Asi super resumido jaja
please doing video about balance
Una sugerencia podrían por favor ponerle subtitulos en español a sus videos, son muy buenos.(estoy suscrito en su canal). espero que lean mi sugerencia,muchas gracias.
Very Nice.
thanks!
Nice video .......
Could you please tell me which okinawa karate style you are showing in this video ?
Outstanding channel. Very good explanation.
#OkinawanUechiRyu
#OkinawanGojuRyu
I've been doing karate for about 13 years, living in UK. I've only realised recently I've been practicing all wrong. We mainly do the solo form of karate, which is relevant but now I need to practise with an opponent regularly but because I don't run the club I can't change the culture, also I can't find anyone near me who practice like you do. How can I find an opponent to practise these principles within kata and spar like you do?
i believe iain abernathy is in the UK, you might want to check out his stuff. and according to our network, there might be a few dojos in your area. good luck on your search ! www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1l9s5G-jOp6VS5Jyq3Zou3uTqcAs
Karate Culture
Sure I'm going to one of iains seminars in October. But thanks there is one near me, although it's a different style I think he looks legit. And it's on a different day so I can do both classes!
In Kyokushin karate, we train to not have to grapple/wrestle. The objective is to send your adversary to the ground, not yourself. Budo concept of one strike, one kill is desired.
Sure, but most fighting will involving some form of grappling. Just because you take grappling out of your training does not mean it is taken out of real life. And sure, if you can hit someone once then great, but then why hit at all...
Karate Culture - i'm just saying that even though we should always assume that your opponent is a trained fighter, most encounters will be against an average guy with little to no training, because most trained fighters are disciplined and try to avoid fighting in most cases. I'm 60 years old and even though i can grapple if i need to, i try to stay on my feet, avoid wrestling and end any fight as quickly as possible. Just my way, but i respect yours also.
You just made me think something totally different about karate.
Hope it was something good lol
Have you guys ever tried to do a kata as a paired form type of thing, like all the Judo kata?
definitely, that's the majority of our partner drills, it helps make the kata feel more applicable versus just doing it by yourself
y when oponen have a sword or weapon how is the appliquetion ?
pick the right timing and judge your distance, but ultimately you still need to close the distance to stop the attack
What style of karate is this? I like this
Okinawan karate, specifically shorin ryu, thanks!
Can you make subtitle for French people ? It s very interesting but hard to understand all the concepts. Thks.
Have you ever tried to design your own original kata?
we have a few;) it's more of a pattern that represents the techniques that we use most often in sparring. aaron has one and I have one
Great. I think it would be great if your own style had your own katas. It would seperate you from all other styles and you could make sure your applications aren't lost over time by having knowledge of the applications be part of your gradings ;-) (I know you're going from white to black, ut it's something you could take note of of students over time)
what style of karate youre doing ?
Hi, I have been watching you off and on. I wonder what style is this? And what you think about Kyokushin? cause I'm a Kyokushin practitioner I been curious is there any different my style?
we train in okinawan karate, specifically shorin ryu. Kyokushin is a great art that teaches the much needed warrior mindset and hard body conditioning. We enjoy it as much as every other style and Mas Oyama is a karate legend. From experience kyokushin teaches good combative principles but doesn't emphasize the application of kata as much as Okinawan styles .
Mi Horrorshow
Kyokushin karate is an awesome art. similar to more traditional forms of karate it is made up of a few styles which include goju ryu karate, Korean fighting systems, and some judo. Half of kyokushins Katas are from okinawan goju ryu and the rest are Korean.
I know a lot about Kyokushin karate very well. There only 10% of Taekkyeon kicks in Kyokushin karate. with a touch of Muay Thai kicks and Okinawans kicks. What's cool about Okinawan karate kicks they have sweeps and kept it Traditional with the application.
The Kyokushin Kata are pure Okinawan with Goju Ryu and Shotokan.The judo is like 5% also Korea style doesn't have Katas since all there style was a base of sports. In Kyokushin. We view our art like The books of five rings that's why there isn't much explanation to application to Katas you must figure them out yourself. TKd is a water down Shotokan the only style in Korea that comes close to Shotokan is Tang Soo Do.
Nice job. What about weapons?
if you treat an opponent's fist touching you as an end to fight aka you're KO-ed etc. then fighting against weapons would be the same thing with even higher stakes. So the principles are the same you just have to be more attentive to timing, distance management, and fully committing to your counter. After that, touch sensitivity and clinch fighting is needed to end any confrontation (unarmed or with weapons)