I have driven both cars, I think Kia is still 2nd place I liked the driving experience of the Rav 4 more. But For young people I think the Kia Sportage is a winner. 😊
This old guy is in the Kia camp. The advancement in their styling, manufacturing and product range is amazing. They have recruited well and have a bright future ahead.
As an owner of a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid, it is definitely a bit boring and the Kia interior definitely looks way nicer (even with the 2023 tech update with the Rav). Exterior, for me I prefer the Rav4 look but that’s just me. I’d still buy the Rav4 myself but I can understand why people would pick the Sportage too. Kia just isn’t my brand, nothing against them though. Personally I don’t think you can go wrong with either the Rav or Sportage, both nice cars.
I did 4750000 k’s in my last RAV and apart from services, water pump and a few other wear and tear parts I did nothing to it. It still ran beautifully! This is the reason why I purchased a new RAV4 AWD Hybrid Cruiser last year. I’ve done 11000k’s so far and average 5.3L/100. They may not be the most high tech but they do what Toyota does and keep on going.
Hahaha my other Rav4 (2012) has been in the family since brand new and only done 128,000km. There’s a clear reason why I didn’t sell it when buying my 2022 Rav. The 2022 Rav Hybrid is sitting at 16,000km, so no I don’t drive that far and I know both of my Rav’s still have a long time left before I need to do anything big to them. It’s great to hear such positive experiences from other owners, just reassures me that mine won’t break down on me, provided I can keep maintaining them.
my brother has KIA hybrid. broke twice in about one year. and dealer dont know thats wrong with it. do not buy KIA or Hyundai hybrid. V6 is OK ish. but hyundai hybrid is the worst. get toyota or honda. or even mazda.
@@tocreatee5736 Oh wow. That is just sad. I’d be interested to hear other people’s experiences with the Kia and Hyundai Hybrids to see if they are similar or different. I think when it comes to hybrids, Toyota is king overall but there are other hybrid systems from other brands that get good fuel economy and are pretty smooth. But longevity is more of a question mark compared to Toyota hybrids, simply because Toyota hybrids have continued to be developed over time. Best of luck to your brother.
I think the RAV4 looks better than the Kia. I think Kia are amazing these days, especially warranty, but being priced almost comparably… I would go the RAV4 for reliability, longevity, ease of parts and depreciation! A small thing, but a good example of longevity shown in the video is the tailgate speed. Slower tailgate actuators (like the RAV4) last longer due to the gearing ratio used within, creating less stress wear.
Being priced comparably, i would go for the Kia. I think it has unique looking and less boring than the Toyota. Plus, Kia has more than average with the reliability with 5+years warranty so that's not problem.
This made me go and look at and test drive both these models. Great cars but for me the KIA I didn’t like the huge sun roof, the one long display screen looked sexy but too many controls buttons and did not like the shiny plastic console at all, it looks like cheap furniture and seeing smudgy finger marks would be annoying. The RAV4 I seemed to like more in the console for me less is more love the simple layout out. They both drive well but preferred the feel of the RAV.
I’ve been going back and forth between these two cars for a while now and can’t decide. Love the look and feel of both, how they drove/handled on the road was great and personally like the feel of the rav4 slightly mot as it was almost “truck like” when driving it but, I’ve heard Toyotas quality has gone down hill (I know a lot of manufacturers in the us atleast have) and for the price point of rav4s everything is outdated (not a huge deal to me but is somewhat of a factor in my decision). Has the rav4 been holding up for however long you’ve had it now?
@@kavsoc RAV4 Hybrid Edge AWD: • Powertrain: 2.5-litre 4-cylinder hybrid engine • Power Output: 163 kW combined (engine + electric motor) • Drive System: AWD (All-Wheel Drive) with a more rugged suspension tuned for off-road capability. RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser (AWD option available): • Powertrain: Same 2.5-litre 4-cylinder hybrid engine • Power Output: 163 kW combined • Drive System: AWD (optional) or FWD (Front-Wheel Drive available). The AWD in the Cruiser is slightly less rugged compared to the Edge, as the Edge is designed more for off-road driving.
Well, it depends whether a person likes CVTs in general. Personally, CVTs are only more convenient in urban setting - cities, towns, places where there are traffic jams. On other hand, nothing beats a conventional automatic on a highway or just any road that does not have any traffic jams or congestion.
The RAV4 hybrid curves down so much at the door frame that both my spouse & I hit our heads entering the vehicle. We're not that tall, only 5' 9". We're buying the Kia Sportage Prestige Hybrid. Lots more room & the dash console screen doesn't look like they just glued a tablet on the dashboard 😂, like the rav has. Both our kids have had Kia's for over 5 yrs, no issues except having to get a wheel lock for the 2019 Soul. Other daughter loves her Niro like no other car. I want extra cargo room & we like how it sits up higher-- easier on our knees-- so the Sportage is our pick. Now I'm going to watch this vid to see what this guy thinks. Edit: the Sportage Prestige we are purchasing has AWD, so I guess that's an improvement from the car they reviewed. Great video 😁
Ditto for us too.. The RAV4 Premium is the same. I'm only 5'3"ish. Front passenger side. Nonadjustable seat height. That by itself knocked it off our list. We went with the Sportage. Non-Hybrid...
I'd pick the Sportage. It has a proper automatic gearbox, not a noisy CVT. Its engine is turbo charged, so it has more torque when you need it. It has a speed limiter which won't let you go past the preset limit which saves you a couple hundred bucks and some demerits and it has 7 years warranty
@@aussiedeplorable8670 the ecvt certainly is miles ahead of other cvts and is very close to TC feels in low speeds but gun that engine and you will still hear it roar. It is loud and noisy on the open road. Also drive it in a downhill road like a mountain area and you will find yourself pushing on that break often. A Torque converter is beautiful, smooth, quiet and supports engine breaking when driving downhill, so yeah, classic automatic for me anyday
Please do enough research on the battery tech. Depending on availability you can get a Li ion battery. My 2023 Rav4 cruisers hybrid here in perth has a Li-ion battery
KIA looks nicer than the Toyota, IMO the back of the RAV4 looks awful, Pity the KIA is only 2WD, Typical bland Toyota interior, trying to add a bit of orange, NAH, if the rest of the interior wasn't so bland it might work, KIA interior kills the Toyota, no surprises there Toyota is always 10 years behind.
@@fffwe3876You are same with the Tocreatee5753 something guy. Lol I saw you everywhere spamming lies about every KDM and I DON'T TRUT WHATEVER YOU SAY.
@@nqobilemahlaba2230Okay, i accept on the exterior wise because looks are "Subjective", (though for me i would never ever consider RAV4 only for the boring and lame exterior and even worse interior) but interior wise, you are joking, right? I can imagine that you are a JDM fanboy😅
@@kfx3907 we are all entitled to what we love like dislike and hate. I love my Toyota cars. If you love VW Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes Audi or any other super car exotics.... Good for you. I'm happy for you
Thank you. I was looking at Toyota only, and didn't even consider KIA, until I went to check out the Sportage HEV yesterday. Thank you for comparing these, as I'm not convinced I'm making the right choice. Also, in Canada, Toyota has a 3 yr, 60km vs Kia has 5 yr, 100km. Also, 10k less in price and I don't have to wait 12 months.
Rav 4 look is aged but in a good way, and with a new refresh due, it'll be interesting to wait and see as the Kia and Hyundai won't see a styling update for at least another 3 or 4. Toyota's reliability likely still trumps Hyundai's, with the latter's quick run through of models and huge range of car options in multiple segments has probably hurt the reliability of their engineering . I'm in the market to upgrade from my 2018 Sportage but I'm going to wait for the RAV 4 update next year to weigh options between these two, the Tucson, and the CR-V.
The RAV4 battery is available as a Li ion battery depending on the market and climate where it is sold. It has nothing to do with the age of the technology. Both battery types are good and bad at different things.
The Sportage engine/exhaust sounds better. The front and rear looks better on the Sportage. The Sportage interior definitely dunks on the retro and gaudy orange RAV4 and the cameras, entertainment and safety technology are much better. It's a shame the Sportage Hybrid doesn't offer an AWD option. It's nice that the Sportage Hybrid is a classic torque converter automatic transmission, since I have the Dual-Clutch (DCT) Kia Sportage GT-Line AWD and it sucks; I'll never buy a DCT vehicle again. It also only gives me power when in Sport mode; other driving modes have a pedal-to-power delay of about 2s vs 0.5s.
Toyota Australia is cheating customers on map upgrades. I bought my RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid in 2021. My average annual mileage is around 10,000 km. Given the low mileage there is no great rush on my part to do the annual service which I normally do within a month from each anniversary date. During the service I have the free map upgrade (customers are entitled for 3 map upgrades free). However on my 3rd anniversary service, Toyota refused to give me the 3rd free map upgrade. After a couple of lengthy discussions with Toyota Customer Service I was told that I am not entitled for the 3rd free map upgrade as I have gone pass the 3rd anniversary date by a few weeks. This is gross cheating. Shame on Toyota Australia.
@@clarence3037 Thanks. I do that in areas where the built map isn't complete. Otherwise I use the only available USB slot for my music stick. The issue here is Toyota Australia is not providing the number of map updates it promised.
@CarSauce Hey guys! 👋🏻 Do either vehicles have a Smart Park Assist system? My carport is very narrow and it sure would help to be able to back the car in/out…
When the engine failed at 57,000km in my 2019 Kia soul, the staff told me they had 30 engines in the shop the previous year with same problem. Defective premature engine failure. I've also read many reports of people having a new engine put in only to have the same thing happen quickly. Fix your mess Kia!
So wish NZ had the Kia Sportage GT line hybrid, sadly our top spec is the Earth, which of course misses out on that wonderful 360 degree camera, the cooled seats would be nice as well.
I've been driving my Sportage PHEV for a year now and I'm extremely happy with the AWD drive train. It has both petrol and electric motor driving one gearbox and 4wd system which makes it AWD in every scenario. The rav4's AWD feels kinda fake to me. Much like the AWD in the X3 for instance. Like what happens when your battery is empty and you need AWD but it's not available anymore.
Shucks. Wish we could get the long wheel base Sportage here in the US. Though at that point it'd compete, eat into, the sales of the Sorrento. I do wonder? Do you get the plug-in hybrid variants in Australia?
Kia has come a long way. Kudos to them. However, for reliabilty purpose, i would pick toyota any time of the day. Yes, they are boring but very reliable. We have Kia's in our exteneded family but the amount of drama they all had to deal with is frustrating to watch. Even mechanics are like, dont get Kia next time. But i have to say, Toyota needs to get better with interior. But please get rid of touch buttons and brings back tactile buttons are knobs.
I don't get it anymore.... RAV4 is presumably a competitor for Kodiaq, Santa Fe and Sorento, and there are tons of comparins against Sportage-size cars. WTF?
Why are these idiots treating mpg-based cruisers like sports cars? Nobody who actually buys either of these is looking for anything more than a reliable and cheap to operate vehicle. I'm getting about 45mpg on my RAV4 Limited Hybrid AWD after 5 months of ownership. Only issue I have is I'm only about halfway through the manual to understand all the features it has. I always have to look to see which side the gas cap is on since I don't visit the pumps more than once a month so I forget where the darn thing is.
In the UK the Toyota comes with a 10 year warranty if serviced at an approved dealership. 15 year warranty on battery. Kia 7 year warranty renowned for being hopeless. Toyota every time for me.
Honestly, find the Kia rear to look really tasteful and nice. Lights are high up, and all LED. The RAV4 is decent, but the halogen bulbs are a miss, along with the LEDs looking more outdated. New RAV4 couldn't come soon enough. It is starting to lag behind and is one of the smaller choices in its class.
Yeah he said the Kia has aged but it must be personal preference because I think the Kia is significantly more modern looking than the rav 4. The Rav has the old halogen lights, the rear is blocky and aged. Kia looks almost futuristic in comparison.
Definitely RAV4 Hybrid much better than Kia. The front of the Kia looks absolutely terrible, I will not waste my money on it. RAV4 is the clear winner in every aspect, Kia is for the pretty girls. As a man, I will go for RAV4 100%.
These guys serm to moslky dislike Japanese cars ? Also go on and on about a tyoe of light bulb but lighly brush off no FWD? I genuinely think they have some level of bias which they may not realise. What costs a company more - two light bulbs or an AWD system?.
@@kbling2946 lol … and Kia is not reliable? Seriously? Toyota used to be great but are now so behind design and tech its sad. Resale is noy different for these cars these days. Come on mate, year 2000 is long gone. Many more quality car brands available now.
@@Omarkoman as per my original a comment, Toyotas are dated and are behind in the tech, no question, but you can’t argue with Toyota reliability. As for KIA, they have a class action on their engines, the DCT is nothing but trouble. For god sake there is even a Facebook page dedicated to Kia and Hyundai engine failures 😂. Dong get me wrong though I love Kia’s, we actually have a new Seltos GTLine as well as a new RAV. I’m pretty sure I know what I’m talking about.
@@kbling2946 fair enough but I am sure there are tons of class actions against Toyota as well. I just dont get why people keep talking up the reliability when thats something that was from 15-20 years ago when Toyota cars were basic and did the job well so thats all ppl remember. I am sure their current cars are just as troublesome as others. Nothing wrong with DCTs, had them in Audis, VW and Kia and no issues at all. People just need to learn how to drive one.
I know 3 people who sold their Rav 4 or cancelled their order for a Rav 4 to buy a haval h6 hybrid which is much better than these two for the money . The rav4 hybrid system is outdated that’s why byd are designing the new hybrids for Toyota
Why do they keep comparing a 5-6 yr old design (Rav4) to a redesigned suv (Sportage)..off course there will be features the Rav4 won’t have specially in the interior..but kudos to the Rav4..it’s still able to hold up against any competition..they should compare the Kia to the newly redesigned Crv..
@@gf401 yeah what's wrong with that... You buy stuff made there all the time. Would you rather I spend my money on a Ford ranger made in Thailand or something from south Africa
I've worked at a car repair company for almost 30 years, and Kia's hybrid engine is 15 years behind Toyota's. If you don't ride Asian cars like Kia on flat, paved roads, parts will break. The reason why Kia used cars are not running in developing countries such as the Middle East, Africa, and South America is because the engines and parts are not durable. The way to check the quality and durability of a car is not based on the subjective opinion of an engineer, but by checking the used market. As for the interior, it's made by a European designer, so it looks more futuristic than Toyota, but if Toyota and German cars are S-class, Kia is B-class. Kia does not have an engine capable of completing the Paris-Dakar Rally. In the first place, if you are looking for good design in a car, I think you should buy one made in Italy.
I believe your level of information is behind by 10-12 years. Esp. Kia has made an incredible leap in the last 8 years perhaps. German cars are more at the dealers for costly repairs than on the road. Things are shifting.
The RAV4 prime sounds ideal… but it’s actually the worst of both worlds. That’s why it isn’t available in Australia!… it was pinned for the US, where they had to meet US EV sales legislation to minimise tax.
Toyota is just so safe you know youre buying something that will last and have no problems. kia is great and shiny and new but like is it worth the headache?
I have the Kia and I love it. It’s sleek, elegant and handled beautifully.
Yep, the design of Kia is 🎨 art :)❤🎉
I have driven both cars, I think Kia is still 2nd place I liked the driving experience of the Rav 4 more. But For young people I think the Kia Sportage is a winner. 😊
This old guy is in the Kia camp. The advancement in their styling, manufacturing and product range is amazing.
They have recruited well and have a bright future ahead.
As an owner of a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid, it is definitely a bit boring and the Kia interior definitely looks way nicer (even with the 2023 tech update with the Rav). Exterior, for me I prefer the Rav4 look but that’s just me. I’d still buy the Rav4 myself but I can understand why people would pick the Sportage too. Kia just isn’t my brand, nothing against them though. Personally I don’t think you can go wrong with either the Rav or Sportage, both nice cars.
Same too. I’d feel a lot more confident with the RAV4, with a plan to put 400,000km’s on it, the service network and depreciation.
I did 4750000 k’s in my last RAV and apart from services, water pump and a few other wear and tear parts I did nothing to it. It still ran beautifully! This is the reason why I purchased a new RAV4 AWD Hybrid Cruiser last year. I’ve done 11000k’s so far and average 5.3L/100. They may not be the most high tech but they do what Toyota does and keep on going.
Hahaha my other Rav4 (2012) has been in the family since brand new and only done 128,000km. There’s a clear reason why I didn’t sell it when buying my 2022 Rav. The 2022 Rav Hybrid is sitting at 16,000km, so no I don’t drive that far and I know both of my Rav’s still have a long time left before I need to do anything big to them. It’s great to hear such positive experiences from other owners, just reassures me that mine won’t break down on me, provided I can keep maintaining them.
my brother has KIA hybrid. broke twice in about one year.
and dealer dont know thats wrong with it.
do not buy KIA or Hyundai hybrid. V6 is OK ish.
but hyundai hybrid is the worst. get toyota or honda. or even mazda.
@@tocreatee5736 Oh wow. That is just sad. I’d be interested to hear other people’s experiences with the Kia and Hyundai Hybrids to see if they are similar or different. I think when it comes to hybrids, Toyota is king overall but there are other hybrid systems from other brands that get good fuel economy and are pretty smooth. But longevity is more of a question mark compared to Toyota hybrids, simply because Toyota hybrids have continued to be developed over time. Best of luck to your brother.
The interior on the Kia looks leagues ahead of the Toyota
Yep, Kia and design language ❤
Just bought a sportage prestige Friday. Its amazing and you get so much for your money.
This is the exact video I needed, thanks so much guys, great work!
I think the RAV4 looks better than the Kia. I think Kia are amazing these days, especially warranty, but being priced almost comparably… I would go the RAV4 for reliability, longevity, ease of parts and depreciation!
A small thing, but a good example of longevity shown in the video is the tailgate speed. Slower tailgate actuators (like the RAV4) last longer due to the gearing ratio used within, creating less stress wear.
Being priced comparably, i would go for the Kia. I think it has unique looking and less boring than the Toyota. Plus, Kia has more than average with the reliability with 5+years warranty so that's not problem.
Bingo
Kia looking cool and all but I would still pick the RAV4.
This made me go and look at and test drive both these models. Great cars but for me the KIA I didn’t like the huge sun roof, the one long display screen looked sexy but too many controls buttons and did not like the shiny plastic console at all, it looks like cheap furniture and seeing smudgy finger marks would be annoying.
The RAV4 I seemed to like more in the console for me less is more love the simple layout out. They both drive well but preferred the feel of the RAV.
Rav4 has physical buttons which automatically makes it better car to me.
I've got a 2024 Toyota RAV4 Cruiser hybrid AWD and it's the best car I've owned in 45 years. Toyota has proven reliability in the long term.
I’ve been going back and forth between these two cars for a while now and can’t decide. Love the look and feel of both, how they drove/handled on the road was great and personally like the feel of the rav4 slightly mot as it was almost “truck like” when driving it but, I’ve heard Toyotas quality has gone down hill (I know a lot of manufacturers in the us atleast have) and for the price point of rav4s everything is outdated (not a huge deal to me but is somewhat of a factor in my decision). Has the rav4 been holding up for however long you’ve had it now?
What's the difference between Edge and Cruiser versions?
My ex had a 23 rav4 and it was constantly in the shop with tons of parts in back order
@@kavsoc
RAV4 Hybrid Edge AWD:
• Powertrain: 2.5-litre 4-cylinder hybrid engine
• Power Output: 163 kW combined (engine + electric motor)
• Drive System: AWD (All-Wheel Drive) with a more rugged suspension tuned for off-road capability.
RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser (AWD option available):
• Powertrain: Same 2.5-litre 4-cylinder hybrid engine
• Power Output: 163 kW combined
• Drive System: AWD (optional) or FWD (Front-Wheel Drive available). The AWD in the Cruiser is slightly less rugged compared to the Edge, as the Edge is designed more for off-road driving.
Right and you owned a vw beetle before that 😂
If you understand how the eCVT in RAV4 works, its a masterpiece of engineering, and i would buy it just for that. No other manufacturer comes close.
Well, it depends whether a person likes CVTs in general.
Personally, CVTs are only more convenient in urban setting - cities, towns, places where there are traffic jams.
On other hand, nothing beats a conventional automatic on a highway or just any road that does not have any traffic jams or congestion.
Ford has the same system
New Kuga? Also has eCVT
@@theriverthatflows98”E” cvt
I own a 2022 Kia Sportage Diesel put 35,000kms on it so far no issues and drive beautifully.
The economy in the diesel sportage is unreal as well, 5.5l/100k on a freeway drive is very common.
Just have a look again after 200,000 km, that is called reliable
I bought a 2024 Sportage and it died 10 minutes after I pulled it out of the lot
@@john12354 Funny, I bought a Rav4 and it died 9 minutes off the lot.
@@paulklp8262 you can't even afford a bus pass, lil bro
I prefer the Toyota Rav4. I have the 2024 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid and i love it.
3 year RAV4. Hybrid owner….best car I ever had! Couldn’t be happier! Got one made in Japan….quality and practicality unbeatable…
Great review. How does the xtrail and Honda hybrid compare?
honda and toyota is only choice for hybrid.
Hyundai KIA are probably the rock bottom/
The RAV4 hybrid curves down so much at the door frame that both my spouse & I hit our heads entering the vehicle. We're not that tall, only 5' 9". We're buying the Kia Sportage Prestige Hybrid. Lots more room & the dash console screen doesn't look like they just glued a tablet on the dashboard 😂, like the rav has. Both our kids have had Kia's for over 5 yrs, no issues except having to get a wheel lock for the 2019 Soul. Other daughter loves her Niro like no other car. I want extra cargo room & we like how it sits up higher-- easier on our knees-- so the Sportage is our pick. Now I'm going to watch this vid to see what this guy thinks.
Edit: the Sportage Prestige we are purchasing has AWD, so I guess that's an improvement from the car they reviewed. Great video 😁
That’s what I just got, the 2025. Great car!
Ditto for us too.. The RAV4 Premium is the same. I'm only 5'3"ish. Front passenger side. Nonadjustable seat height. That by itself knocked it off our list. We went with the Sportage. Non-Hybrid...
I'd pick the Sportage. It has a proper automatic gearbox, not a noisy CVT. Its engine is turbo charged, so it has more torque when you need it. It has a speed limiter which won't let you go past the preset limit which saves you a couple hundred bucks and some demerits and it has 7 years warranty
The beautifully engendered “E” cvt is one of the main reasons why I would pick the Toyota.
@@aussiedeplorable8670 the ecvt certainly is miles ahead of other cvts and is very close to TC feels in low speeds but gun that engine and you will still hear it roar. It is loud and noisy on the open road. Also drive it in a downhill road like a mountain area and you will find yourself pushing on that break often. A Torque converter is beautiful, smooth, quiet and supports engine breaking when driving downhill, so yeah, classic automatic for me anyday
Please do enough research on the battery tech. Depending on availability you can get a Li ion battery. My 2023 Rav4 cruisers hybrid here in perth has a Li-ion battery
KIA looks nicer than the Toyota, IMO the back of the RAV4 looks awful, Pity the KIA is only 2WD, Typical bland Toyota interior, trying to add a bit of orange, NAH, if the rest of the interior wasn't so bland it might work, KIA interior kills the Toyota, no surprises there Toyota is always 10 years behind.
dont belive these comments.
Looks are subjective. I actually love the looks the looks of the rav 4 even the interior I love it way more
@@fffwe3876You are same with the Tocreatee5753 something guy. Lol I saw you everywhere spamming lies about every KDM and I DON'T TRUT WHATEVER YOU SAY.
@@nqobilemahlaba2230Okay, i accept on the exterior wise because looks are "Subjective", (though for me i would never ever consider RAV4 only for the boring and lame exterior and even worse interior) but interior wise, you are joking, right? I can imagine that you are a JDM fanboy😅
@@kfx3907 we are all entitled to what we love like dislike and hate. I love my Toyota cars. If you love VW Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes Audi or any other super car exotics.... Good for you. I'm happy for you
If you go for the Cruiser Hybrid FWD then it undercuts the Sportage by $3000.
Thank you. I was looking at Toyota only, and didn't even consider KIA, until I went to check out the Sportage HEV yesterday. Thank you for comparing these, as I'm not convinced I'm making the right choice. Also, in Canada, Toyota has a 3 yr, 60km vs Kia has 5 yr, 100km. Also, 10k less in price and I don't have to wait 12 months.
Rav 4 look is aged but in a good way, and with a new refresh due, it'll be interesting to wait and see as the Kia and Hyundai won't see a styling update for at least another 3 or 4. Toyota's reliability likely still trumps Hyundai's, with the latter's quick run through of models and huge range of car options in multiple segments has probably hurt the reliability of their engineering . I'm in the market to upgrade from my 2018 Sportage but I'm going to wait for the RAV 4 update next year to weigh options between these two, the Tucson, and the CR-V.
The RAV4 battery is available as a Li ion battery depending on the market and climate where it is sold. It has nothing to do with the age of the technology. Both battery types are good and bad at different things.
The Sportage engine/exhaust sounds better. The front and rear looks better on the Sportage. The Sportage interior definitely dunks on the retro and gaudy orange RAV4 and the cameras, entertainment and safety technology are much better. It's a shame the Sportage Hybrid doesn't offer an AWD option. It's nice that the Sportage Hybrid is a classic torque converter automatic transmission, since I have the Dual-Clutch (DCT) Kia Sportage GT-Line AWD and it sucks; I'll never buy a DCT vehicle again. It also only gives me power when in Sport mode; other driving modes have a pedal-to-power delay of about 2s vs 0.5s.
Toyota Australia is cheating customers on map upgrades. I bought my RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid in 2021. My average annual mileage is around 10,000 km. Given the low mileage there is no great rush on my part to do the annual service which I normally do within a month from each anniversary date. During the service I have the free map upgrade (customers are entitled for 3 map upgrades free). However on my 3rd anniversary service, Toyota refused to give me the 3rd free map upgrade. After a couple of lengthy discussions with Toyota Customer Service I was told that I am not entitled for the 3rd free map upgrade as I have gone pass the 3rd anniversary date by a few weeks. This is gross cheating. Shame on Toyota Australia.
Just use your smartphone for maps Jesus Christ.
@@clarence3037 Thanks. I do that in areas where the built map isn't complete. Otherwise I use the only available USB slot for my music stick. The issue here is Toyota Australia is not providing the number of map updates it promised.
@@veebee3969 yeah that is not good enough on Toyota’s part. Sorry to hear.
@@clarence3037you leave him alone!
@CarSauce
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Do either vehicles have a Smart Park Assist system? My carport is very narrow and it sure would help to be able to back the car in/out…
Whats the clutch on the kia? Dual clutch?
The Kia looks and drives like a new modern fresh car.
The Toyota feels like it’s already quite dated.
It's a perfect Boomer car.
and KIA burn down your house, very modern.
according to KIA hyundai corporate.
When the engine failed at 57,000km in my 2019 Kia soul, the staff told me they had 30 engines in the shop the previous year with same problem. Defective premature engine failure. I've also read many reports of people having a new engine put in only to have the same thing happen quickly. Fix your mess Kia!
Engine is way better for RAV.
But Kia breaks easily.
Wireless Car Play is a big thing I want. A bit concerning that the Kia volume button didn't work with Apple CarPlay in the review.
Please compare to BYD Sealion 06 as well.
I DO notice Toyota is getting a bit careless in most aspects with their vehicles, while KIA/ Hyundai keep getting better and better!!!
So wish NZ had the Kia Sportage GT line hybrid, sadly our top spec is the Earth, which of course misses out on that wonderful 360 degree camera, the cooled seats would be nice as well.
I've been driving my Sportage PHEV for a year now and I'm extremely happy with the AWD drive train.
It has both petrol and electric motor driving one gearbox and 4wd system which makes it AWD in every scenario. The rav4's AWD feels kinda fake to me. Much like the AWD in the X3 for instance. Like what happens when your battery is empty and you need AWD but it's not available anymore.
Who really cares about top spec models. You should compare base spec Kia hybrid with the Toyota GXL
Actually you would be very surprised how many people opt for those luxury features. Me personally, I prefer top spec reviews
Take the hybrid engine from the RAV4 and put it inside the Kia and you have a winner
Shucks. Wish we could get the long wheel base Sportage here in the US. Though at that point it'd compete, eat into, the sales of the Sorrento.
I do wonder? Do you get the plug-in hybrid variants in Australia?
How does the rav4 compare to Subaru forester
The high cost and waiting list of toyota defeats the purpose of going for a Japanese car. Kia soo much nicer.
KIA hybrids catchers fire.
But Kia breaks easily.
Kia has come a long way. Kudos to them. However, for reliabilty purpose, i would pick toyota any time of the day. Yes, they are boring but very reliable. We have Kia's in our exteneded family but the amount of drama they all had to deal with is frustrating to watch. Even mechanics are like, dont get Kia next time. But i have to say, Toyota needs to get better with interior. But please get rid of touch buttons and brings back tactile buttons are knobs.
Are you going to do a vlog for your zeeker trip ?
I think it's wireless Android auto as well.
Here because I'm trying to decide if I want to keep my 2024 rav4 or trade it in for a kia
If KIA was an AWD it would be a clear winner, but it’s a hard choice
I don't get it anymore.... RAV4 is presumably a competitor for Kodiaq, Santa Fe and Sorento, and there are tons of comparins against Sportage-size cars. WTF?
More direct car comparisons please! P.S Now I can watch the video :D
Why are these idiots treating mpg-based cruisers like sports cars? Nobody who actually buys either of these is looking for anything more than a reliable and cheap to operate vehicle. I'm getting about 45mpg on my RAV4 Limited Hybrid AWD after 5 months of ownership. Only issue I have is I'm only about halfway through the manual to understand all the features it has. I always have to look to see which side the gas cap is on since I don't visit the pumps more than once a month so I forget where the darn thing is.
GWM Haval H6 Hybrid? Taxis are doing 200,000km and reporting rock solid reliability.
chinese car😂
In the UK the Toyota comes with a 10 year warranty if serviced at an approved dealership. 15 year warranty on battery. Kia 7 year warranty renowned for being hopeless. Toyota every time for me.
Toyota will outlast Kia by a mile, as per Kias previous models they will start to poop there pants around 100k
Definitely prefer the Kia
Rav4 all day as a owner and with 210'000 miles on it no regrets
You would think differently if you’d driven the Kia, we upgraded from Rav 4 and the Kia is miles better in every way
Buckle up for the ultimate SUV face-off!
I like toyota when it comes to engine but they need to do more in the interior
you doing a review of he faclifted dmax ?
Stay away from the dark side… dum dum dum dum da dum…. 😂 Love the nerd out reference, makes you extra fun to watch!
I like RAV4
Honestly, find the Kia rear to look really tasteful and nice. Lights are high up, and all LED. The RAV4 is decent, but the halogen bulbs are a miss, along with the LEDs looking more outdated.
New RAV4 couldn't come soon enough. It is starting to lag behind and is one of the smaller choices in its class.
Yeah he said the Kia has aged but it must be personal preference because I think the Kia is significantly more modern looking than the rav 4. The Rav has the old halogen lights, the rear is blocky and aged. Kia looks almost futuristic in comparison.
Definitely RAV4 Hybrid much better than Kia. The front of the Kia looks absolutely terrible, I will not waste my money on it. RAV4 is the clear winner in every aspect, Kia is for the pretty girls. As a man, I will go for RAV4 100%.
Huh? The back of the Rav4 is better than the Kia Sportage? I also prefer the look of the Kia interior.
RAV4 has timeless design but Kia not and they keep changing their design philosophy that makes used cars dated
This is true and really underrated.
Kia does 4 wheel drive
Could we have a kei car Daihatsu Hi-jet review please 🥺
Or a Suzuki Hustler
@@wosamosman9814 couldn't agree more!!
These guys serm to moslky dislike Japanese cars ? Also go on and on about a tyoe of light bulb but lighly brush off no FWD? I genuinely think they have some level of bias which they may not realise. What costs a company more - two light bulbs or an AWD system?.
Shame Kia doesn’t offer AWD in Hybrid
They do in the US, I wonder why they don’t in AU
The Kia looks futuristic while the Toyota is just a 2020 design.
review mahindra bolero / bolero camer
If you like powerful and easy-to-handle cars, choose Kia. If you like smooth and easy cars, choose Toyota.
2024 rav4 edge looks manly 😎
Jacob don't need no orange inserts man.
Put Kia and Toyota in same picture?!? You have some problems at the roof?
I am flabbergasted how many ppl just blindly buy Toyotas … just goes to show most ppl dont care about cars.
We care about reliability and resale
@@kbling2946 lol … and Kia is not reliable? Seriously? Toyota used to be great but are now so behind design and tech its sad. Resale is noy different for these cars these days. Come on mate, year 2000 is long gone. Many more quality car brands available now.
@@Omarkoman as per my original a comment, Toyotas are dated and are behind in the tech, no question, but you can’t argue with Toyota reliability. As for KIA, they have a class action on their engines, the DCT is nothing but trouble. For god sake there is even a Facebook page dedicated to Kia and Hyundai engine failures 😂. Dong get me wrong though I love Kia’s, we actually have a new Seltos GTLine as well as a new RAV. I’m pretty sure I know what I’m talking about.
@@kbling2946 fair enough but I am sure there are tons of class actions against Toyota as well. I just dont get why people keep talking up the reliability when thats something that was from 15-20 years ago when Toyota cars were basic and did the job well so thats all ppl remember. I am sure their current cars are just as troublesome as others. Nothing wrong with DCTs, had them in Audis, VW and Kia and no issues at all. People just need to learn how to drive one.
Kia has had serious reliability issues in the past. They do look better, looks aren’t everything in a car.
It would be worthwhile comparing the Kia Sportage Hybrid with the Diesel
I know 3 people who sold their Rav 4 or cancelled their order for a Rav 4 to buy a haval h6 hybrid which is much better than these two for the money . The rav4 hybrid system is outdated that’s why byd are designing the new hybrids for Toyota
Kia looks nice, but Toyota anyday.
Kia won’t last compared to the Toyota.
Why do they keep comparing a 5-6 yr old design (Rav4) to a redesigned suv (Sportage)..off course there will be features the Rav4 won’t have specially in the interior..but kudos to the Rav4..it’s still able to hold up against any competition..they should compare the Kia to the newly redesigned Crv..
Neither.... Byd sealion 6
barf
*vomits*🤮… with water from the BYD showroom fire sprinklers.
Made in China ? You serious?
@@gf401 yeah what's wrong with that... You buy stuff made there all the time. Would you rather I spend my money on a Ford ranger made in Thailand or something from south Africa
@@gf401 what will you say when Toyota starts using the BYD tech they just bought in their next rav4
And the KIA will get roof leak sooner in a year of use. How much that will cost.
All can say to all Australians no to albo no to Bowen no to Dutton no to ev & hybrid cars no to Nuclear!!!
Rav 4 holds it’s value than Kia. More reliable, fuel efficient and drives like a dream in 4x4 sports mode.
I dont buy a car because i will sell it in better price. I buy it because it is better. And yeah. Kia is better and of course reliable as toyota
Rav 4 exterior look's mature!
Kia is beautiful ❤
Toyota looks miles better than the Kia
I think the opposite!
Same here. The Rav is miles ahead in looks.
Love the look of the Kia.
I've worked at a car repair company for almost 30 years, and Kia's hybrid engine is 15 years behind Toyota's.
If you don't ride Asian cars like Kia on flat, paved roads, parts will break.
The reason why Kia used cars are not running in developing countries such as the Middle East, Africa, and South America is because the engines and parts are not durable. The way to check the quality and durability of a car is not based on the subjective opinion of an engineer, but by checking the used market.
As for the interior, it's made by a European designer, so it looks more futuristic than Toyota, but if Toyota and German cars are S-class, Kia is B-class.
Kia does not have an engine capable of completing the Paris-Dakar Rally.
In the first place, if you are looking for good design in a car, I think you should buy one made in Italy.
I believe your level of information is behind by 10-12 years. Esp. Kia has made an incredible leap in the last 8 years perhaps. German cars are more at the dealers for costly repairs than on the road. Things are shifting.
True, the Rav4 2,5 engine no turbo and Prius electrics are proven in the Lexus too. Which is why I bought one.😁
30年間整備したベテランがどうして大東亜共栄圏を主張する気持ち悪い極右イジメオタクなww
Why toyota cars in Canada much nicer? I mean, I knew that they are better in Japan, but why they give the worst version here in US
TOYOTA always do best 😅
India wants the RAV4!
Rav4 PRIME?
We don’t have the RAV4 Prime In Australia
The RAV4 prime sounds ideal… but it’s actually the worst of both worlds. That’s why it isn’t available in Australia!… it was pinned for the US, where they had to meet US EV sales legislation to minimise tax.
faux leather AKA Vinyl! in a 60k SUV 😅
As a former owner I can tell you that the Toyota would need to be an absolute shitbox to be worse than the Kia.
Not sure why the city dweller needs a hilux or ranger 😂
the gear shifter in the Kia is so annoying.
Toyota is just so safe you know youre buying something that will last and have no problems. kia is great and shiny and new but like is it worth the headache?
Kia vs Toyota. Tough call, lol.
You’re comparing a reliable and capable Toyota with a bells and whistles KIA . 😂😂😂
Rav4 wins
One is a mechanical problem and the other is your grandmas car so, no to both.
Jacobs correct. When the Sportage came out it was nice. But I gotta say when I see it now, it's design does anger me idk y
Dont like the styling of the Kia