Neptune - The Royal Speed Bump
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- A game from last weeks Tech Tree Thursday, where I was voted to cover the RN Cruisers. In this game I'm playing the Neptune, a ship that's considered quite cumbersome compared to its T8 and T10 mates, on some of the worst possible match-making. As usual you can find my recommended build at the end.
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Any news on Alaska?
That Cleveland/torp example was excellent. I hope people learn from this ... I had one game where a Zao was constantly torping from behind me (Kagero). At one time I had to slam on the brakes and turn the other way to avoid his torps which brought me into Missouri radar and I got instantly deleted by Missouri + Kronshtad.
that's so damn true
Not to mention that while the torps didn't kill the Cleveland, they were a reason Cleve died.
If he pushed behind the island, he would likely eat only one Musashi salvo, and at this range a broadside salvo was likely to overpen him. Instead, he was forced to kite in the open, giving Musashi multiple chances of killing him.
Virgin Neptune Vs Chad Poseidon.
Chad gearing OP
This one was definitely a big oof after Edinburgh. I feel the British line has real variations in play style from tier to tier which you wouldn’t see initially from just looking at the stats.
She was one of the best ships I ever played back on release. I guess smoke changes, blind firing, and more radar did not do her well.
I think you can adapt. Actually it is my most successful ship so far. Currently grinding for Mino, my 2nd T10 ship ever. 29 matches, 72% WR, 1.4k PR... that's very good for my player-level. It is very inconsistent though. 90% of my games I am either top 3 of team or I get blapped. XD
SE musashi misses close quarters shot at broadside cleveland. Neat
Sail straight line in to a ship that can launch single torp. Typical BBs
@@Terngapicha But What should you Do then? Show broadside?
@@chrisultras7388 just use the rudder a bit? If he would have turned even the slightest all those single lauchned torps would have missed him
That's all rng. When I'm in a bb under 5km rng loves to make my shells go 1km short.
How the fuck can you go 1km short at 5km??
@@avgjoegaming8271 you can't, stop exaggerating maximum dispersion of the worst kind of ship in 5km aren't gonna be more than 200m, if it goes 1km it means you are not locking the guy.
I am really glad you are covering it here!
I really struggled in my Neptune recently and this video has taught me a lot how to improve in it!
you are turning into one of my favourite youtube/twitch channels to watch.... while it is obvious that you know what you do, you don´t get cocky about it and still know and point out when you make a mistake, pls never lose that ability. your content is very useful for me to get better at this game, so learning about those mistakes and your thoughts while you execute certain maneuvers provides insight that is very helpful (at least to me)
Excellent commentary-especially re keeping distance and making space and the Cleveland torp situation.
Quality content as expected. Thanks for the vid!
im currently at the neptune and have no comparison to the minotaur but i absolutely love my neptune. the shells are quite slow and its pretty squishy so i usually use my US DD/cruiser tactics and use islands as much as possible. i think in this match i would have probably been on my way towards C and tried to use the islands there, similar to what the buffalo was doing
Thanks for the captain spec tips. I just got the Minotaur and will finish training the captain today.
much appreciated : especially for you pointing out the questionable practise of shooting torps from the second line. Has started happening more- especially across planned routes of escape.... Kudos for admiting that possibly sketchy play and outlining the consequences !
That Cleveland anecdote once again proves that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
+1000 for your self-critizism! I really like you saying "I ruined that Clevelands getaway-plan with my torps." Speaks of strenght of charackter. :)
On the Neptune: you just confirmed how I play & absolutely adore it. ^^ ...albeit at a much lower skill level, of course. :D
I know I'm in the minority here, but the Neptune was a joy for me. Obviously, I am no where near Flolo's skill, but if I played with a combination of USN Cruiser and DD playstyle, the Neptune performed very well for me. Tons of 10km torpedoes, fantastic guns, and good maneuverability. Certainly not as good as the Mino, but a fantastic bote for me none the less.
I agree with you. Neptune is about my favorite British ship and until about two months ago it was my highest scoring ship base XP vise. I think it is still my fastest grind from tier 9 up to 10 ever.
Same, I think Neptune is an excellent predecessor to Minotaur, boasting faster reload than Edinburgh and being squishy like Mino.
Same for me. Fiji was nice, Eddi and i hated each other from the bottom of our black hearts and then came the blessed Neptune and another T9 i, (unlike many it seems) liked a lot (same with the Ibuki which did whay better for me then the Mogami).
I would say the same, but only after a while. I hated it at first. Neptune would be what you can call an "aquired taste".
Agreed. I've had a blast in this line ever since the Fiji. Neptune is no different.
I even started running radar while on Edin, and have kept that play style on Neptune, despite assurances that it can't "work". I can always fall back on smoke if I'm struggling, but %65 WR for me is very strong, so I'm sticking with it. That kind of versatility is rare and fun. My AA is lethal too, which I enjoy with so many CV's in queue these days.
I love the ship. I must say though, I've played every cruiser line to at least t8, and nothing gets blapped harder than this thing, so far. Angled? BB's laugh at your "angles"! I can understand why some players struggle with it ;0)
This is probably the best video title of all videos on your channel 👍
I actually enjoyed the Neptune once upgraded.
I've never understood why this thing has 10.1km concealment
Because you got no armor.
@@chrisultras7388 I think he considers this too high
I mean, it's a HUGE ship so it makes some sense
t9 Ships are often made worse on purpose so more people are willing to pay real money to skip those ships, and the Neptune would be way too good if it had better concealment. :P
@@sidian4257 Yes that is one thing that really gets me. Matchmaking, and other things, are purposely unbalanced to get more people to spend money.
23:25 No Last Stand skill? Whatever; you know what you're doing better than I do. Great vid and very timely; I have only a few games in this ship and so far I suck in it.
I was so excited for the Neptune once I got it. I've barely played it since, it's such a shock coming from the Ednburgh.
On the Edin I succesfully used Radar as standard, it's impossible on the Neptune.
My favourite thing to do in the Minotaur is open gun boat 1v1 bbs.I love jooking shots and play with the rudder ,its just the best thing ever, the thrill is godlike.
I love the Minotaur ,i think its the ship you need to play if you want the best experience out of WoWs ,it teaches you everything you need to know and forces you do it if you wanna be good in it.
i loved playing that ship, it trades survivability of the edin for firepower, both in guns and torps. most enjoyable t9 cruiser so far for me
Thanks for a great instructional vid on the Neptune. Think I'll stick with the Edin and get better with her first!! Haha
merci flamu pour tout ce que tu as fait pour les joueurs grace à toi j'ai amélioré tous mes boots 👍😉
RN Cruisers are my fav Cruiser line in entire game I treat them as big DDs :3
I very much agree with not fitting the gun range upgrade on Neptune. I did on mine, and it was actually a nuisance, I was getting spotted by ships 19km away on the other flank when firing from behind islands at targets on my own side. Commander skills are pretty damn similar to what I ran, though I think I had Last Stand instead of Jack of All Trades.
Kudos to you for accepting the mistake Flamu, you didn't need to. The better thing is (I think) you wouldn't have said those things 1-2 years ago... So the "new and improved" Flolooo is my fav wows guy. Keep it up my man!
Gotta love that HP perk Musashi lol
My last Amagi game as we were getting into position I had complained that the guns had really been letting me down. I usually have pretty good results with those guns but I hadn't been able to buy a citadel all day. Just seconds after I said that, the enemy Neptune appeared about 14km out, and my guns were pointed that way, so I sent a full salvo out. BLAP! 5 citadel Dev strike for first blood. I'll never doubt Amagi again.
I had a fantastic time on Neptune, one of the easiest, fun grinds I've ever done in the game. However, that concealment to me made her uncomfortable at times. Tier 8 Edinburgh gets 9.1km detection, Tier X Minotaur under 9km. But Neptune sticks out in Tier 9 by being the worst concealment for these High Tier RN Cruisers. Everything else I was fine with. I really enjoyed getting back not only a torpedo heavy loadout, but these are 10km torpedoes.
naping and tuneing with Flamu...heck yeah B)
I get so little spotting help that I run it with Radar. Now thats a hell of a challenge.
great vid flamu
One shot in my Neptune from 90% hp to ded from a Henri V. What a great battle....
BBs sailing in straight lines while torpedo threats are known to be around and in range. Never change, Battleship players.
Gotta love the British cruisers atm. The smoke is useless in my Minotaur on the SEA server, every game sees 3-4 radar ships, so I have adapted to the meta by becoming one myself. The Worcester is just better. Longer range, and HE. Ugh. As a Minotaur you have to keep firing to get the damage up there, aim for superstructure and the bow of ships. As a Worcester? Just point at the enemy and farm away. They set a couple of fires and they can “go dark” letting their fires burn.
I also noticed far far more over pens on the Worcester than on the Minotaur, I have had my own Missouri burned down by a Worcester in the open and our whole team once watched a Yamato suffer the same fate and both sides remarked on it in chat. Return fire either misses or over pens.
The Worcester has crushed the British line and I just wanted to say that here.
WG making more FlamuW gameplay, GJ
I still find the smoke viable but to make it viable you gotta be less of a capping ship and to just use it to lob into caps/behind them. the smoke becomes most strong late in games where you can actually use it to push remaining forces.
I actually liked the Neptune. She's still squishy but 12x 152mm British AP hurts. She has decent AA window and torpedo armament.
Her biggest challenge is that citadel and concealment.
I played through this before they added the smoke firing penalty. This thing was a monster back in the day, that patch really nerfed the royal navy CL's
Yesterday I had ocean map 2 times in Neptune and some potato in Yamato was telling me that its heaven for neptune and minotaur...
When you go into ocean you end up in heaven pretty quickly
Its the typical BB player no knowledge about other classes only driving his tier x bb
AP on broadsides is pretty amazing. Chunked Missouri for 35k in a minute
I ran radar on neptune for the whole grind. 61% wr solo. I once or twice tried out smoke, man I never felt so bored.
I really hate the Neptune! All the way from the Emerald to the Edinburgh, I've learned those ships and treat them like gunboat destroyers and have done very well in them, in most of them I have stats in the low end of unicum, but I cannot get the Neptune to work.
I cant remember the last game when I didn't take multiple citadels. One game I took 3 citadels from a Musashi blind-firing into my smoke from 15km away.
And I only found out to my cost that you cant angle against the Henry IV... This thing REALLY needs 25mm plating that basically EVERY OTHER TIER 8+ CRUISER gets. With a citadel that big, not being able to angle doesn't work.
Lol I know this comment is a year old but that's exactly how I felt. I was so excited to get this ship but got insta deleted every game and sold the ship for a massive credit loss. I just bought the ship again and I realized you literally have to play like a potato, and you excel in games. I got about 120k damage a couple games ago by just moving up behind an island, popping smoke before I get detected, and start spamming shells. Then when your smoke is bout to run out you get the fuck outta there
@@sriramg5334 yeah I've got a lot better in it since then, I think my highest kill count is actually in the Neptune (7, same as by best in the Fiji).
It's still not the best ship, you either have to play like a potato or be Flamu.
If you haven't got it all ready make sure you keep going to the Minotaur, that thing is a beast (my ranked record in that is ~75% and ~65% in randoms).
It's still got the same Neptune citadel but is stealthier and more agile. But the poor Albemarle gets its citadel and none of the stealthy features... So suddenly the Neptune doesn't seem so bad.
Good thing Maaseru wasnt in his Montana "in Maaseru we trust"
Surprised that Flamu didn't talk about how painful the Neptune's shell velocity is, its 768 m/s. Neptune's shell velocity is so slow even BB's have time to manoeuvre to avoid at distances past 12km.
ha best thing is its faster velocity than most the RN line or the same as
I quite liked the Nep - it has much better AA than the Edin and the turret traverse is SO much nicer.
I liked the Neptune enough to keep it in my port and had some good matches with it. Granted, this was prior to the addition of the Seattle and Buffalo.
"High" HP, "Super" Heal, massive citadel that makes the two completely mute.
Any opinion on radar Neptune? I used it right the way through and absolutely loved it. It can barely smoke fire, and the massive citadel means blind fire is able to do massive damage.
I enjoyed all RN cruisers from 6 to 10 equally.
Fantastic ship, if you don't get deleted within the first few minutes that is. Comfortable to play and if you are a complete troll and division up with a radar ship.... The carnage, oh the carnage.
With Seattle / Worcester should i go for the 3 million reload upgrade or the range upgrade?
so re watching this as its also a great way to see how to defend against this boat. what flags were you running?
wonder how much he played the "floating citadel" before he free XP'ed to the Minotaur.
I assume that you are gonna cover the Jean Bart? And the fact that it got put up for sale in the premium shop? As the first purchable tier IX premium in the game
i love playing my nepnep
So Flamu- do you think the Cleveland's strategy at the end would have potentially worked out had things not gone as they did? Was it a good or reasonable play from your experience?
I blapped a Neptune on full health with a Hipper when he came around an island I was on the other side of. Think I had 5 citadels in one volley.
The Seattle is the American version of the Neptune.
so humble....
I love it when a Neptune pops up broadside on and I'm just siting in my Friedrich and think oh boy there is my free kill :D and then it just explodes
Appreciate your reviews, Flamu. I actually really liked the Neptune, especially after Edinburgh which was a train wreck for me.
Flamu , I'm at the Fiji with Jack Dunkirk. Where do I spend my last 3 points? I have priority target, jack of all trades, expert marksmen , adrenaline rush, smoke screen expert , superintendant and concealment. Thank you for all your advies :)
@ 2:10 the proper term is overstatement*
I don't understand why people hate the Ibuki, I loved it :(
wait, two people from the same clan played against each other in this game
Neptune also has the best AA in the game, it can shred planes and give a friendly CV a much easier time. This assumes that you've built for it though.
Why IS there a T9 speedbump? I notice it in Ibuki AND Seattle. It's almost like they want to increase your anticipation before reaching T10. But there's no need, I'm happy enough just to progress. Ibuki is just no fun after Mogami, and Atago is just awesome. I just can't get to Zao because I seem to be unable to get Ibuki to work for me.
I got 20.7 range on the Roon :D
Really odd as I consider the Neptune to be one of better Tier 9's so much so that I even kept it once I got Minotaur. I would say Ibuki, Seattle and Donskoi are far worse ships comparatively but I guess it partly comes down to play style.
Best laid plan of men and mice or how did that quote go again?
Best laid plans of mice and men often go awry.
You gonna upload the whole tech tree Thursday again? @flamu
The giant potato finally do something potatoish :) good game though
Just noticed that musashi had SE.
I got triple rudder modules and play it like an oversized DD with radar. Fapping in smoke is not my thing.
Can you do Dmitri Donskoi? I feel as if it's worse than Neptune xD
You use the range to your advantage against battleships and cruisers that can't return fire as accurately. When you can safely do so, you go to around 10-11 km to utilise the radar and destroy destroyers/Wreck cruisers that you can pen with AP. Your key traits are speed and range, so use them. Last patch Dmitri was buffed slightly, as now it's rear turrets have the same angle forward (where previously one of them had worse angle.)
Hello, can you tell me please what kind of crossair have you?
how did you get all those flags? I am always low on flags..
I always say that the only thing that British Cruiser captains love more than sailing their ships, is deleting other British cruisers in other ships.
I haven't hated the neptune tbh. in the t9 ranked seasons it has been my best ship but that isnt saying a lot I guess since only have Seattle and FDG...
but after this current ranked season I will be saying good buy since I now have the full 220k xp for for mino.
Which is better T9 Cruiser? Neptune or Ibuki
I've had Neptune for a while now and in that time I've also unlocked Roon and Alsace, gone right through Chung Mu and will probably have T9 RN DD done n dusted before I make it to Mino. Fiji = epic. Edinburgh = meh. Neptune = what the smeg! 😡
Ps. Gj including the torp derp. All of us have done it but it's more annoying when a player doesn't understand when they've screwed someone even if they didn't hit them.
Flamu can you do a Yubari review?
NEP NEP
6 torp hits on the musashi and 6 floodings... bruh
How did he get the ship names in the in game chat? Is that a mod or a setting i havent discovered yet?
He's probably using Aslains mods, which are pretty much the go-to mods for World of Warships and World of Tanks, whichever your fancy. The setup is pretty self-explanatory.
aslain.com/index.php?/topic/2020-07101-aslains-wows-modpack-installer-wpicture-preview/
Just click on one of the Download links (I usually click on the "Direct" button instead, easier) - Follow the instructions. It'll get you all hooked up.
aslain.com/
This is just the regular website if you want to look around.
I just noticed something weird I do unique to your channel. When I load your vids I automatically hit the "like" before play. I'm not sure when I started doing that but I do know why.
I always come away with something positive. A tip that could improve my game, a different way of thinking in a given situation, a spotlight on a bad habit I didn't know I had, or even a reason to play a ship I never wanted to even try. I could go on but the point is there's always something I can take away to improve my game.
I don't agree with everything 100% especially in terms of builds, but that has more to do with the fact that I am twice your age and have the reflexes of a glue-sniffing rat. I don't need to agree with everything and don't even expect to. I had a WTF moment when you sent those torps at the Musashi but then you went ahead and highlighted what a bonehead move that was, and why. Nice.
Bottom line: Thanks for adding a dimension to this game I don't get elsewhere. Please keep up the good work. I haven't been giving back but that's a wrong I can fix, and I will.
Das Bat
Timer cap Team indicator is an ingame mechanic or a mod ?
mod
thx
Just "played" my first round of Neptune. Got onshoted by the first salvo of the enemy team. 0 dmg
lol now I feel bad I always play WoWs drunk
To much guilt over those torps flamu, :) but yes an excellent example.
*D A K K A*
23:59 why not ?, It'll be fun
I had a more brutal map in my Neptune last week... Ocean with a tier 10 CV...
OUCH!
Last time I had Ozean, I was in a Zao.
Did 235k dmg. AND LOST.
@@billd2558 Surprisingly I did survive but with minimal damage dealt, most of my xp came from plane kills...
Shugoki beat squad
Hmmm... was saving up to pay for the Neptune... not sure I want it now...
Tom Riley Why tho,it's one of the best cruisers at tier 9.
@@sopmodtew8399 got it now - absolutely love it - so much fun! I've been setting personal damage records with it - no idea why flamu thinks it's a speed bump - buffalo in the US heavy cruiser line is far far worse!
Tom Riley i have more dmg dealt in the Minotaur but still ,neptune is my favorite ship in the line.
@@sopmodtew8399 looking forward to the Mino but don't have it yet!
ein klassisches beispiel für das absurde mit diesen schiffen in wows!
This is why you play Neptune with radar.
Could someone please tell me how I can keep the Alt interface on permanently (not pressing the Alt key)?
Turn on alternative Interface in the settings on
Except for Kronstard, Neptune is best win rate ship in IX :)))
@@feanorn8409 No, i always play alone. Rarely i play with divisions :)). I don't understand why I play Neptune better than Mino
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