In an ABLOY PROTEC2 locking system, different products can be keyed into the same master key system and thus all products can be operated with just a single key. This simplifies your locking system and key management. The range is wide, there are 1,97 billion different key combinations providing the possibility to create extensive master key systems that fulfil your exact specifications.
@ I mean they're both dimple locks I guess but that tells you very little. That's like saying both master locks and abloys are the same kind of lock. I mean it's technically correct but they're so vastly different as to not really mean anything. BosnianBills lock just tensioned weird. This one has a rotary core/key in order to be able to rekey it fairly easily. So, definitely a lot different.
Spent the last 2 or 3 months watching all of the older LPL videos, coming back to a new one and hearing the cheerful / confident / modern LPL is so relaxing lol.
I'd say most attacks are coming at something that isn't the lock, i.e. bust a window, kick the door in. And of the small number of people actually going after locks they will probably be raking or using bump guns and if those dont work theyre just gonna drill. Idk I just dont hear of many people getting their stuff stolen and the thief supposedly having busted in using a skilled single pick technique but maybe Im just not cool enough to live in a place where people have stuff other people really want to steal
yeah... most brilliant lock I came up with is modify'in an normal masterlock so if you screw with it a flashbang goes off in your face... good luck being quiet whilst the temp blindness and deafness makes ya lose you balance and crash into the lil garden spikes around there lol
@@SimonWoodburyForget that is the reason he can speak authoritatively about the lock in his intros. You are quite right. He studies and understands the lock before recording, for any of these more "review-like" videos. Challenge videos are a different category, but even then, LPL has repeatedly trained on the same class of lock in the past, building the skills to attack an unknown lock. LPL is not an example of a common criminal trying to take your stuff in a low profile way, but an example of a lock expert trying to explain/demonstrate what is possible.
Well, as someone who actually wants to bring a product to market, crowdfunding is the best funding option. Of course, it’s also used by scammers making outrageous claims, but there are also legitimate products.
@@GRBtutorials They're not all scammers dude, but 99% of the product campaigns on there are never going to make it, because they're pitched by ideas guys, who don't know the first thing about anything.
@@Asdayasman Yeah the real problem with crowdfunding stuff like this is that it's a lot of inventors with little to no knowledge of logistics or manufacturing.
To draw attention to some well mentioned issues already brought up, and some flaws in the logic that makes this far more secure than people give it credit for, before I rip it down where it fails: Big thing. I saw no low skill attack vectors. If I can't beat it with a needle or rake it is already enough to work as a deterrent. Any skill requirement is an instantly viable lock in the real world for 90% of use cases. So let's move onto the concerns people pointed out. One concern is someone having one of these keys then using it to duplicate your key after seeing the combination. Yes that's doable. But I've recreated normal keys from memory when provided blanks and a file for fun. Most people can't do that. It doesn't make those locks any more or less secure if it still stumps most pickers. A rare talent or skill combined with an exceptional memory is required and if anything my method just bypassed all security measures. A slightly less exceptional but still decent memory is needed to recreate the combination for this lock if they saw it and couldn't take the time to write it down at that moment and double check. Human memories for numbers, addresses, and similar strings is getting notably worse in our digital age, instead our brains are becoming better at rapidly sorting through information once we find it, before dropping it after it's used. Also taking a clear enough photo isn't that discreet guys so don't worry on that. Reading stampings on metal isn't easy if you can't handle the item at hand directly. Real world practicality is a thing lock nuts forget. Not many people need to worry about someone holding the key needed to open your valuables, pulling out their phone, adjusting angle and focus to read most stamps well enough and snapping a picture without you knowing or taking the key. Instead they'll steal the key. This is assuming the person paranoid enough to be worried about such things doesn't shuffle their key. If you are concerned about the combination aspect after that don't use combination locks, the concerns for them are standard across the board. We should also point out, these keys are RARE. Like sure I can just buy one, but unless I own a lock like this why would I? The average infiltrator won't have more than a pocket of the most commonly needed tools in his belt plus any specialist tools he expected. This securely locks us in the domain of standard picks, common specialist picks for common weird locks, a few pieces of wire, and destructive attacks. If you can stop those against most people using those you're safe. In fact it's so weird it will probably be enough to make the common thief give up at a glance. Heck the common spy would look at it, be confused, see if it pops fast, if not leave and do some research or find another way in. If you have a key like this you already are more prepared than any lock could stop, alarms are your new deterrent. Not locks. Now we should look at the pick time by LPL right? Not really. He's an exceptional picker, but he also has time with these picks before each video and his lack of fumbles on camera shows either confidence to the max or practiced rehearsals and retakes or both. He's also familiar with the lock, both model and his particular instance, before he hits record. This makes his pick times impressive but hard to judge against. This doesn't make him a fraud, just makes him a bad barometer. It's like judging a Kevlar vest against an antitank rifle. Don't. So we can say this lock isn't the disaster instantly seen by many. Real world practicality is on its side. But it is flawed. I will say though, design wise this lock has one key flaw. No shutter. So assuming it had amazingly difficult to pick pins, the lack of shutter just makes it too easy to see and access the pins, that and front tension, which is a bit disappointing but forgivable on most locks, harms this lock more than the possible combination memorization attacks or LPLs pick time. This securely puts this lock in the same domain as most mid-range combination locks. You need something better than trash, but nothing amazing. It actually would be good in bulk in medium security locations where more than one person needs access. Examples being to keep access panels locked in factories, lockers in work places, maybe cases of tools at job sites, even schools to lock up gym equipment. Seriously this thing works anywhere a combination lock does. Give everyone who needs access a key and a combination booklet.
@@billykaelin6358 If a lock needs 'special preparation' to easily break into (Buying one of those keys fe.) then its already good, coz no lock can defend vs that. And the more 'extreme' it looks the better deterrent it is if no easy obvious bypass, even if easy to pick.
Thanks to you and Bill I am now a padlock junkie ;) And I bot a Ramset! You have a sensitivity borderlining magic! So impressive. I can barley feel where the pins are! "barley" ;)
This lock would be susceptible to an automated attack. The rotating cylinders on the key could be attached to shafts driven by stepper motors which could step through all 3^4 combinations pretty quickly.
But that's also true for many other keys, especially ones with fewer cuts and pins, and if you manage to snap even a quick picture of the key, you can pretty much be sure that you can recut a working key... (if you can get the blanks, that is) (Deviant Ollam talked about this in one of his talks, iirc)
Err, normal keys are actually about the same. Skill? Just need to do some photoshop then convince your locksmith to originate the key. Time? I guess you have to drive to the locksmith. Blanks? The locksmith can sell you them. vs this weird thing: Skill? Have to actually find the blanks. Time? They will take some time in the mail. Blanks? These are really weird blanks.
It looks like you re-key the key by loosening the small screw and rotating the individual segments. I suspect that may well come loose on your keychain after a while so unless you remember the 'combination', you'll have to pick the lock open - or try the 81 combinations!
This seems like a design with plenty of potential. It seems like adding a few more rotors and pins per rotor and some way to shield the keyway that this would be a usefull lock.
Great concept for the lock.... some tweaks and improvements and that could be quite a nice setup. If you needed to give someone a key for something, and they didn't return it, or needed to change it for some reason....
I’d love to have a short synopsis of how to improve the lock. Maybe not in great detail but just a way to make it harder. An example for this one would be have a guard that blocks view of the pins or something. This may be easier said than done but it could be interesting to see how to improve good locks into great locks
To Mr. LPL, did you ever think that your lockpicking channel would get as popular as it has before you started it? Over three quarters of a million subscribers and counting likely to break a million. You have to be doing something right to make lock picking as interesting and entertaining as you have, good job.
You and Bosnianbill should do a competition where you make each other challenge locks and you see who picks the lock faster you should do that it would be cool
I feel that with a specific jig for this lock, and tube stock of increasing width (obviously cut to a sharper tip that reaches below all the pins with a lathe, and sloping up to the full width of the lock) would either literally just work as an universal key, or make the lock a single hit for bumping.
You're videos have made me look for bad designs in locks, but it has also made me look at my gameboy advanced sp and think "they have the screws exposed that's a bad design"... I'm an idiot
That’s the point isn’t it? Key lock combined with a combination lock. You could leave your key out while scrambled and the lock wouldn’t open. I think that’s what this is anyway
You only semi-gutted the lock. Sort of understand why, because reassembly is probably a nightmare. Mind you a fascinating lock and pick method; so informative as ever!
RevMarket Since you put it that way, it a no brainer. No matter what he charges them, within reason, they would be way ahead in the long run rather than selling crap.
Clever internals, however I can't help but think how vulnerable and exposed that long piece of steel would be to a decent hacksaw. Even if it were locked on something, it still seems like a decent cro-bar / pry-bar could get enough leverage to open it. Quality video, Best Regards
Some cats were like "we'll revolutionize the lock world," 20 seconds later, after the LPL has picked it, is like "needs improvement. that is all I have cor you today..."
So this lock seems to be easier to pick than normal locks, IF you understand how the lock works, and make a special tension tool to pick it. To me that says any skilled picker can pick it, but unskilled pickers can't. So not very different from normal locks, really. The advantage of this lock, is that you can buy many of them, and key them to be identical, and rekey them when and if you want to. And that makes it a very interesting lock to have. In fact, I'd like to buy 10 of them right now, if they're not too expensive.
This exactly. I purchased two of them just after their Kickstarter campaign ended so I could have the same key open the front and the back door and be able to change the combination whenever I see fit. I hide a key set to the wrong combination outside in case I lose my key or I want to let a friend in when I'm not there yet. It's very useful. Being a little bit of a lock picking geek, the locks are nice to play around with and it's a very cool key to have. I love it. Of course, it was better until LPL showed how easy they can be picked but like you said, it might be easy once you take time to analyze and understand how it works and have the custom tools. An unprepared picker with standard tools will have a hard time opening it. He'd be better off getting my hidden dummy key and try the 81 possible combinations once he figured them out, but setting a combination on the key takes at least 15 to 30 seconds with practice, which means an average of at least 15 minutes in frond of the door fiddling around with the key until he gets the good one. That's way more time than needed for the old lady living below to get out with her broomstick to scare the guy off. So yes, the concept could be improved, it's definitely not unpickable, but it's still a way better lock than the typical Kwikset everybody have, with the added advantage of being able to set and change the combination yourself. A great product in my opinion. I'm glad I could get the locks while they were available.
@@lockpickinglawyer yes definitely going to ruin the lock. But I'd love to see it! Thanks again for making these videos. I'm hooked. Ordered my first lockpick set and will machine some myself.
I love this channel. I've broken into so many more homes with the help of the lockpicking lawyer. And the best part is if you get caught he'll defend you. THANKS LOCKPICKING LAWYER!
Here is a link to the Ovio Kickstarter. That lock is presumably a prototype or limited production sample because the campaign got cancelled before funding. Probably a good thing considering the poor security and language barrier (read the updates, LOL). Maybe they actually sell these in Taiwan... www.kickstarter.com/projects/oviolocks/ovio-pair-locks-the-new-ultimate-locks-solution/description
I'm a fan of your lock picking skills. I always wondered why not you design a lock of your own. I bet it would be most hardest (if not impossible) lock to pick...
less than 2 percent of actual home thefts were caused by someone single pin picking in the USA. Most theifs aren't casing your house and getting to know all your locks and how they work they're pretty sloppy since they have to break in get what they want and get out of there quick before raising suspicions. You're more likely to have a window smashed in or a door kicked down than being robbed by someone that has picked your door open.
It just says ' picked and gutted ' therefore it's not implying a specific order. Only if it had been 'picked, then gutted' would it be incorrect. But even then, who cares 😅
This core could benefit from a big dumb pin in each section to obscure the view. Or fill the inactive slots with sprung but non functional pins to give the appearance of a full chamber of pins.
so all I have to do is design a lock with a centrifugal spring that binds the case if you dont depress all 4 at the same time? after all you only got 2 hands :-)
Seems like a better idea would have been to have the actual depths of the 6 potions be unique per lock/key, so that it’s truly two factor security - you’d have to have both the key and the combo. That, and much better pick resistance.
The wide keyway may bring down the possible variations, but only if you have a key. And these locks are not common enough for the common thief. This doesn't change the situation, but realistically speaking it's very unlikely that it will matter. The pick resistance does matter though and this doesn't seem to be very high if you can tension it. Also it doesn't look very beefy, so an destructive attack would be probably the most common way for getting around this lock.
@@D3X1K_AXYZ Huxleypig managed to pick the door lock using a pick gun (the one with the weird bendy tip) and some weird method where he constantly release and reapplied the tension to the core - he said the same could be done with the padlock core, and said he had reports of people opening it that way, but didn't show it himself. Either way, it doesn't look as secure as it might first seem if you can use a pick gun, but considering the majority of thieves who attack locks use brute force methods or bypass methods, I don't think it would affect it too much in a real life scenario. With the door lock, I always found it rather pointless, as in most cases, the doors themsleves and people's windows are easier entry points - it's like sticking a protec2 in your door, but having a wooden door frame - this tends to be the case with a lot of people's doors, unless you live somehwere like London (UK example), where I've seen armored doors installed (due to the high crime rate) that could probably actually work well together which such locks.
@@MysteriousFigure nice long comment. I live in Canada and I am proud that the Bowley lock comes from here, and I will 100% buy one when I will have 200$ to spare.
@@michaeltyomin2128 Sorry about being really wordy! 😞 I certainly won't blame you as it seems like a really good lock, I'm basically just saying that it is not quite as "pick-proof" as some people believe and paying $200 is a little too expensive for a padlock in my experience when you can get something like the beefy Squire for a similar price, especially in a lot of cases, robbers just try to brute force.
@@MysteriousFigure but LPL picked the squire but not the bowley. But actually, if I think of it: I need a lock to protect my locker, so it shouldn't cost 200$ you're right.
1300 still isn't great. although, to be fair, I don't know what the normal keyspace is for an average home lock. when I was a kid, my grandmother said that when her house key was the old-fashioned kind (maybe a lever tumbler lock?) she randomly discovered that it worked in the lock of a private restroom in an office building near where she worked. I'm guessing the keyspace wasn't great for those, either.
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"From 1300 possible combinations, to just 81" haha holy crap!
Use the right search terms and you are golden.
Math is fun :)
In an ABLOY PROTEC2 locking system, different products can be keyed into
the same master key system and thus all products can be operated with
just a single key. This simplifies your locking system and key
management. The range is wide, there are 1,97 billion different key
combinations providing the possibility to create extensive master key
systems that fulfil your exact specifications.
The power of exponents. 6^4 = 1296, 3^4 = 81.
But can you unlock the human genome?
Are LPL and Bosnianbill having a competition to show off their weirdest locks today?
I think LPL wins pretty easily.
@@Livestreamlurker They are both the same type of lock.
@ I mean they're both dimple locks I guess but that tells you very little. That's like saying both master locks and abloys are the same kind of lock. I mean it's technically correct but they're so vastly different as to not really mean anything. BosnianBills lock just tensioned weird. This one has a rotary core/key in order to be able to rekey it fairly easily. So, definitely a lot different.
Henry O'Keeffe To be fair, I should mention that I got this lock from Bill, so he wins either way.
@@lockpickinglawyer, nah he gave you the winning lottery ticket. Lol.
Spent the last 2 or 3 months watching all of the older LPL videos, coming back to a new one and hearing the cheerful / confident / modern LPL is so relaxing lol.
Seems effective in security through obscurity. If single pin picking is the only way in, I'd say it's safe enough for the vast majority of attacks.
I'd say most attacks are coming at something that isn't the lock, i.e. bust a window, kick the door in. And of the small number of people actually going after locks they will probably be raking or using bump guns and if those dont work theyre just gonna drill. Idk I just dont hear of many people getting their stuff stolen and the thief supposedly having busted in using a skilled single pick technique but maybe Im just not cool enough to live in a place where people have stuff other people really want to steal
I'd like to see the process of rekeying the lock
You spin the disks
It's a glorified combination lock
I love mechanical things and never realized how mechanical locks were. Makes me want to try my luck with a kit.
I was half expecting LPL to pick this using a BIC pen
Talked about it for 3min, picked it in 20s. Gave it more credits than it deserves.
I think most people would look at that hole and just shrug their shoulders.
Welp. That didn't take long. But still a really fun and interesting idea for a lock!
Simon WoodburyForget Are you suggesting that he pre-picks all the locks so he can cut down pick time for video shoot?
yeah... most brilliant lock I came up with is modify'in an normal masterlock so if you screw with it a flashbang goes off in your face... good luck being quiet whilst the temp blindness and deafness makes ya lose you balance and crash into the lil garden spikes around there lol
@@SimonWoodburyForget that is the reason he can speak authoritatively about the lock in his intros. You are quite right. He studies and understands the lock before recording, for any of these more "review-like" videos. Challenge videos are a different category, but even then, LPL has repeatedly trained on the same class of lock in the past, building the skills to attack an unknown lock. LPL is not an example of a common criminal trying to take your stuff in a low profile way, but an example of a lock expert trying to explain/demonstrate what is possible.
An indiegogo campaign that regarded making something, _and delivered?_ Crikey.
Well, as someone who actually wants to bring a product to market, crowdfunding is the best funding option. Of course, it’s also used by scammers making outrageous claims, but there are also legitimate products.
@@GRBtutorials They're not all scammers dude, but 99% of the product campaigns on there are never going to make it, because they're pitched by ideas guys, who don't know the first thing about anything.
@@Asdayasman Yeah the real problem with crowdfunding stuff like this is that it's a lot of inventors with little to no knowledge of logistics or manufacturing.
Interesting mechanism! Proof that all the good ideas aren't "used up." There's always room for innovation.
To draw attention to some well mentioned issues already brought up, and some flaws in the logic that makes this far more secure than people give it credit for, before I rip it down where it fails:
Big thing. I saw no low skill attack vectors. If I can't beat it with a needle or rake it is already enough to work as a deterrent. Any skill requirement is an instantly viable lock in the real world for 90% of use cases. So let's move onto the concerns people pointed out.
One concern is someone having one of these keys then using it to duplicate your key after seeing the combination. Yes that's doable. But I've recreated normal keys from memory when provided blanks and a file for fun. Most people can't do that. It doesn't make those locks any more or less secure if it still stumps most pickers. A rare talent or skill combined with an exceptional memory is required and if anything my method just bypassed all security measures.
A slightly less exceptional but still decent memory is needed to recreate the combination for this lock if they saw it and couldn't take the time to write it down at that moment and double check. Human memories for numbers, addresses, and similar strings is getting notably worse in our digital age, instead our brains are becoming better at rapidly sorting through information once we find it, before dropping it after it's used. Also taking a clear enough photo isn't that discreet guys so don't worry on that. Reading stampings on metal isn't easy if you can't handle the item at hand directly. Real world practicality is a thing lock nuts forget. Not many people need to worry about someone holding the key needed to open your valuables, pulling out their phone, adjusting angle and focus to read most stamps well enough and snapping a picture without you knowing or taking the key. Instead they'll steal the key. This is assuming the person paranoid enough to be worried about such things doesn't shuffle their key. If you are concerned about the combination aspect after that don't use combination locks, the concerns for them are standard across the board.
We should also point out, these keys are RARE. Like sure I can just buy one, but unless I own a lock like this why would I? The average infiltrator won't have more than a pocket of the most commonly needed tools in his belt plus any specialist tools he expected. This securely locks us in the domain of standard picks, common specialist picks for common weird locks, a few pieces of wire, and destructive attacks. If you can stop those against most people using those you're safe. In fact it's so weird it will probably be enough to make the common thief give up at a glance. Heck the common spy would look at it, be confused, see if it pops fast, if not leave and do some research or find another way in. If you have a key like this you already are more prepared than any lock could stop, alarms are your new deterrent. Not locks.
Now we should look at the pick time by LPL right? Not really. He's an exceptional picker, but he also has time with these picks before each video and his lack of fumbles on camera shows either confidence to the max or practiced rehearsals and retakes or both. He's also familiar with the lock, both model and his particular instance, before he hits record. This makes his pick times impressive but hard to judge against. This doesn't make him a fraud, just makes him a bad barometer. It's like judging a Kevlar vest against an antitank rifle. Don't.
So we can say this lock isn't the disaster instantly seen by many. Real world practicality is on its side. But it is flawed.
I will say though, design wise this lock has one key flaw. No shutter. So assuming it had amazingly difficult to pick pins, the lack of shutter just makes it too easy to see and access the pins, that and front tension, which is a bit disappointing but forgivable on most locks, harms this lock more than the possible combination memorization attacks or LPLs pick time.
This securely puts this lock in the same domain as most mid-range combination locks. You need something better than trash, but nothing amazing. It actually would be good in bulk in medium security locations where more than one person needs access. Examples being to keep access panels locked in factories, lockers in work places, maybe cases of tools at job sites, even schools to lock up gym equipment. Seriously this thing works anywhere a combination lock does. Give everyone who needs access a key and a combination booklet.
TLDR?
@@billykaelin6358 If a lock needs 'special preparation' to easily break into (Buying one of those keys fe.) then its already good, coz no lock can defend vs that. And the more 'extreme' it looks the better deterrent it is if no easy obvious bypass, even if easy to pick.
This dude wrote a essay.
Thanks to you and Bill I am now a padlock junkie ;) And I bot a Ramset! You have a sensitivity borderlining magic! So impressive.
I can barley feel where the pins are! "barley" ;)
I’d love to see him reassemble a lock he takes apart, including the pins, springs etc. I think it’d be neat to watch
LPL needs and audio sponsorship his voice is so soothing😎
Yeap
Thanks... I was actually pretty sick when I shot this video. At least a dozen takes to get through without coughing or sniffling. 🤧
This lock would be susceptible to an automated attack. The rotating cylinders on the key could be attached to shafts driven by stepper motors which could step through all 3^4 combinations pretty quickly.
Your voice is so soothing, feels like therapy.
I'd say a major problem is anyone with a simple Glance at your key, could easily change a random key they had, to match your lock.
Smart
But that's also true for many other keys, especially ones with fewer cuts and pins, and if you manage to snap even a quick picture of the key, you can pretty much be sure that you can recut a working key... (if you can get the blanks, that is)
(Deviant Ollam talked about this in one of his talks, iirc)
@@hadinossanosam4459 Og course ... but that requires some skill, time, AND the blanks .. where as with THIS lock it requires none of those things.
Err, normal keys are actually about the same. Skill? Just need to do some photoshop then convince your locksmith to originate the key. Time? I guess you have to drive to the locksmith. Blanks? The locksmith can sell you them.
vs this weird thing: Skill? Have to actually find the blanks. Time? They will take some time in the mail. Blanks? These are really weird blanks.
You are correct. It’s a problem for most locks, though the configurable key certainly makes it easier.
It looks like you re-key the key by loosening the small screw and rotating the individual segments. I suspect that may well come loose on your keychain after a while so unless you remember the 'combination', you'll have to pick the lock open - or try the 81 combinations!
Alan Henness Ever year of blue locktite?
I really like the idea.
Let's move the tension to the rear somewhere, add a few more rotor cores, figure out some kind of security pinning option.
This seems like a design with plenty of potential. It seems like adding a few more rotors and pins per rotor and some way to shield the keyway that this would be a usefull lock.
This man is just a God at lock picking
Great concept for the lock.... some tweaks and improvements and that could be quite a nice setup. If you needed to give someone a key for something, and they didn't return it, or needed to change it for some reason....
Did anyone else think of the owl from the tootsie pop commercials as he was working through the lock?
He did a waltz with the lock 1,2,3. 1,2,3.
Pretty cool lock. Great job picking as usual.
a fascinating design for sure, but this functions more like a proof of concept or first prototype than a lock
Thanks for sharing this unusual and interesting lock.
I’d love to have a short synopsis of how to improve the lock. Maybe not in great detail but just a way to make it harder. An example for this one would be have a guard that blocks view of the pins or something. This may be easier said than done but it could be interesting to see how to improve good locks into great locks
gvid nation Could we afford the consulting fee?
To Mr. LPL, did you ever think that your lockpicking channel would get as popular as it has before you started it? Over three quarters of a million subscribers and counting likely to break a million. You have to be doing something right to make lock picking as interesting and entertaining as you have, good job.
Nah... probably just a short fad. No way it'll break a million.
@@werbnaright5012 I was about to snarkily tell you to come back and see his channel now but I see you just posted this recently 😂
You and Bosnianbill should do a competition where you make each other challenge locks and you see who picks the lock faster you should do that it would be cool
Interesting find brother, great picking as always and thanks for sharing it with us
Fascinating concept lock.
The destroyer of locks strikes again.
I feel that with a specific jig for this lock, and tube stock of increasing width (obviously cut to a sharper tip that reaches below all the pins with a lathe, and sloping up to the full width of the lock) would either literally just work as an universal key, or make the lock a single hit for bumping.
Anyone else get excited when he whipped out that thick 50 thousandths pick?
You're videos have made me look for bad designs in locks, but it has also made me look at my gameboy advanced sp and think "they have the screws exposed that's a bad design"... I'm an idiot
I could listen to LpL read books at me all day. Read me a book L!
Like Mr Rogers :) Very calm, and calming.
If you like asmr-like voices check out Steve1989. I can watch his videos all day as well. Plus he eats some nasty shit. Very entertaining
what if he decides to read 50 shades of gray?
His voice is really calming 😂 his way of talking is just amazing and very clear.
@@chasm9557 I don't think he could do 50 Shades of Gray justice, more than Gilbert Gottfried did ruclips.net/video/XkLqAlIETkA/видео.html
Pretty cool design. Some improvements and it might be much better.
Imagine someone playing with the key and scrambling the code.
You'd probably be best to make a note of the _code_ and keep it somewhere safe that isn't secured by the lock.
@@anononomous maybe with those locks it's the smartest to keep the note inside the secured place by this lock
That’s the point isn’t it? Key lock combined with a combination lock. You could leave your key out while scrambled and the lock wouldn’t open. I think that’s what this is anyway
@@anononomous Just keep the 4-numbers in mind and, after each use, scramble the key by yourself. Will give each key thief a headache.
Hold on there, Satan
In the parallel universe we live in today lets gut it then pick it : )
Drake loves this lock. When you open it, it's got that OvO sound
Awesome. Keep the weird locks coming!
anybody else wish lpl would make a lock set? i bet it would be strong af
BeanieBag too expensive, maybe?
Interesting looking lock... LPL breaks it in 30 secs... I was like okey not good enough....
You only semi-gutted the lock. Sort of understand why, because reassembly is probably a nightmare. Mind you a fascinating lock and pick method; so informative as ever!
Looks like a clean and smooth lock to use though.
A lock with electric going through it would be good as most tention tools are just metal but the key could be insulated
Thief approaches door and looks. 'What the 'f' is that? Gimme the sledge hammer.'
Cool lock. You sound like you've got a cold bud. Hope you feel better.
It’s a great idea, oh wait a minute, maybe we should check with the LPL before we bring it to market.
Frank Biz Could they afford the consultant’s fee ?
RevMarket probably not you know lawyers what they charge.
Frank Biz In 6 minute increments. 1/10 of an hour. So the math is easy for them. 🤔😁
RevMarket Since you put it that way, it a no brainer. No matter what he charges them, within reason, they would be way ahead in the long run rather than selling crap.
Clever internals, however I can't help but think how vulnerable and exposed that long piece of steel would be to a decent hacksaw. Even if it were locked on something, it still seems like a decent cro-bar / pry-bar could get enough leverage to open it.
Quality video,
Best Regards
Some cats were like "we'll revolutionize the lock world," 20 seconds later, after the LPL has picked it, is like "needs improvement. that is all I have cor you today..."
Do you think LPL ever picks his nose?
Holy shit, that is like a dad joke lvl 100
That's all I have for you today, If you do have any napkins please put them down below
How old are you? Five?
@@macforme How old are you? Too old to laugh at a joke?
Using light tension
Never stop making videos
LPL must have done very well in his math classes.
Amazing padlock, i would love to have one in my collection 😉
Imagine somebody having this lock and you just scramble their key
Nicely explained and great sppd .😎
So this lock seems to be easier to pick than normal locks, IF you understand how the lock works, and make a special tension tool to pick it.
To me that says any skilled picker can pick it, but unskilled pickers can't. So not very different from normal locks, really.
The advantage of this lock, is that you can buy many of them, and key them to be identical, and rekey them when and if you want to. And that makes it a very interesting lock to have. In fact, I'd like to buy 10 of them right now, if they're not too expensive.
This exactly. I purchased two of them just after their Kickstarter campaign ended so I could have the same key open the front and the back door and be able to change the combination whenever I see fit. I hide a key set to the wrong combination outside in case I lose my key or I want to let a friend in when I'm not there yet. It's very useful.
Being a little bit of a lock picking geek, the locks are nice to play around with and it's a very cool key to have. I love it. Of course, it was better until LPL showed how easy they can be picked but like you said, it might be easy once you take time to analyze and understand how it works and have the custom tools. An unprepared picker with standard tools will have a hard time opening it. He'd be better off getting my hidden dummy key and try the 81 possible combinations once he figured them out, but setting a combination on the key takes at least 15 to 30 seconds with practice, which means an average of at least 15 minutes in frond of the door fiddling around with the key until he gets the good one. That's way more time than needed for the old lady living below to get out with her broomstick to scare the guy off.
So yes, the concept could be improved, it's definitely not unpickable, but it's still a way better lock than the typical Kwikset everybody have, with the added advantage of being able to set and change the combination yourself. A great product in my opinion. I'm glad I could get the locks while they were available.
That was a REALLY cool view!!
Lockpicking Lawyer is a genius.
Not to mention the shackle thickness and material
Today LPL picks the codex and uncovers the holy grail.
I'd like to see how a lock stands up against a portable induction heater. Seems like it would most locks. Thanks great video!
Alex Barnett It’s mostly zinc inside... the innards would pour out like a river.
@@lockpickinglawyer yes definitely going to ruin the lock. But I'd love to see it! Thanks again for making these videos. I'm hooked. Ordered my first lockpick set and will machine some myself.
I always go to the comments after every video.
I love this channel. I've broken into so many more homes with the help of the lockpicking lawyer. And the best part is if you get caught he'll defend you. THANKS LOCKPICKING LAWYER!
Here is a link to the Ovio Kickstarter. That lock is presumably a prototype or limited production sample because the campaign got cancelled before funding. Probably a good thing considering the poor security and language barrier (read the updates, LOL). Maybe they actually sell these in Taiwan... www.kickstarter.com/projects/oviolocks/ovio-pair-locks-the-new-ultimate-locks-solution/description
I didn't know they made picks that thiccc
That's a pretty funky lock.
Don't let FunKey hear you say that, Don.
Good prep to make a great vid and interesting lock, look like child's play in LPL's lab. Jeez
laughed my ass off when he said it's like a 12-pin lock, just to call it 3 4-pin locks.
Even worse, its four three-pin locks
"Not too hard a pick." LOL
Hey this is lockpickinglawyer and I'm at a client's jail cell here. Hi Steve.
I'm going to be using a thirty thousandths....
LPL: need some improvements
Lock manufacturer: oh, sh&t, thats a millions of spending
you could also look at someones key, see their combination and put your own key to that combination
This thing looks like a sci-fi stuff.
Oh snap I have one of these and forgot about it. I gotta try this.
loves from Turkey!
I'm a fan of your lock picking skills. I always wondered why not you design a lock of your own. I bet it would be most hardest (if not impossible) lock to pick...
less than 2 percent of actual home thefts were caused by someone single pin picking in the USA. Most theifs aren't casing your house and getting to know all your locks and how they work they're pretty sloppy since they have to break in get what they want and get out of there quick before raising suspicions. You're more likely to have a window smashed in or a door kicked down than being robbed by someone that has picked your door open.
No! It was gutted and then picked!
It just says ' picked and gutted ' therefore it's not implying a specific order. Only if it had been 'picked, then gutted' would it be incorrect. But even then, who cares 😅
true, but there's still a valid point here when you consider he almost always picks, first
and i doubt anyone cares a whole lot...lol
Combination, not permutation
It's basically a combination lock.
Imagine sitting in your house late at night watching tv and all you hear outside your back door is. "And got a click out of 3"
Wow, that's pretty interesting !
I've got one of the deadbolt versions of one of these. Pretty sure you only have to pick 1 of the 3 pins per code disk.
technosasquatchfilms That could be right... a product of super sloppy tolerances and each rotor having the same three cuts in different positions.
This core could benefit from a big dumb pin in each section to obscure the view. Or fill the inactive slots with sprung but non functional pins to give the appearance of a full chamber of pins.
WineScrounger Now you’ve given look maker a free consultation?
Pretty cool thought
Chastity devices stand no chance with the LPL lol..he is going to get his lol
I mean he has already picked one so...
so all I have to do is design a lock with a centrifugal spring that binds the case if you dont depress all 4 at the same time?
after all you only got 2 hands :-)
I'd never use a lock like this on anything.
Never mind what it's locking, I'd be afraid someone would steal the lock!
Seems like a better idea would have been to have the actual depths of the 6 potions be unique per lock/key, so that it’s truly two factor security - you’d have to have both the key and the combo.
That, and much better pick resistance.
This is an innovative idea, lets pick AND gut it.
Video runtime : 3:52
Im guessing innovative means really crappy.
To be fair it's pick resistant enough so probs for the hi-tech design.Other than that it needs more beefier shackle.
Very cool lock.
The wide keyway may bring down the possible variations, but only if you have a key. And these locks are not common enough for the common thief.
This doesn't change the situation, but realistically speaking it's very unlikely that it will matter.
The pick resistance does matter though and this doesn't seem to be very high if you can tension it.
Also it doesn't look very beefy, so an destructive attack would be probably the most common way for getting around this lock.
I’m getting dentist vibes
did you picked the key with kinda U shape at the end? the bowley lock from video 636. i'm really curious about your progress
Most likely No. The door lock has only been picked by one per person afaik and as for the padlock I don't think anyone has.
@@D3X1K_AXYZ Huxleypig managed to pick the door lock using a pick gun (the one with the weird bendy tip) and some weird method where he constantly release and reapplied the tension to the core - he said the same could be done with the padlock core, and said he had reports of people opening it that way, but didn't show it himself. Either way, it doesn't look as secure as it might first seem if you can use a pick gun, but considering the majority of thieves who attack locks use brute force methods or bypass methods, I don't think it would affect it too much in a real life scenario. With the door lock, I always found it rather pointless, as in most cases, the doors themsleves and people's windows are easier entry points - it's like sticking a protec2 in your door, but having a wooden door frame - this tends to be the case with a lot of people's doors, unless you live somehwere like London (UK example), where I've seen armored doors installed (due to the high crime rate) that could probably actually work well together which such locks.
@@MysteriousFigure nice long comment. I live in Canada and I am proud that the Bowley lock comes from here, and I will 100% buy one when I will have 200$ to spare.
@@michaeltyomin2128 Sorry about being really wordy! 😞 I certainly won't blame you as it seems like a really good lock, I'm basically just saying that it is not quite as "pick-proof" as some people believe and paying $200 is a little too expensive for a padlock in my experience when you can get something like the beefy Squire for a similar price, especially in a lot of cases, robbers just try to brute force.
@@MysteriousFigure but LPL picked the squire but not the bowley. But actually, if I think of it: I need a lock to protect my locker, so it shouldn't cost 200$ you're right.
It looked a lot like Bosnian Bill's Number 1549 until you mentioned that it was programmable.
Why is this so good tho
1300 still isn't great. although, to be fair, I don't know what the normal keyspace is for an average home lock.
when I was a kid, my grandmother said that when her house key was the old-fashioned kind (maybe a lever tumbler lock?) she randomly discovered that it worked in the lock of a private restroom in an office building near where she worked. I'm guessing the keyspace wasn't great for those, either.