Then you haven't seen enough I'm afraid. Lots of visualization tools out there - but like he said, some person-years need to be spent on that for a given area of expertise typically and now that's a shame.
Even then, most old low-end computers can handle 480p without any trouble, just let it pre-buffer for a bit, then watch until you run out of buffer. Don't skimp out on quality ! 😁
Where is the data showing how kidnap and rape of millions of black women and girls from the African continent to fuel European entrepreneurial greed goals affected Africa's family life, health, economic well being, national development etc? Where's the data showing how murder and enslavement of black males from the African continents similarly affected these nations?
@ Where is the data showing how kidnap and rape of millions of black women and girls from the African continent to fuel European entrepreneurial greed goals affected Africa's family life, health, economic well being, national development etc? Where's the data showing how murder and enslavement of black males from the African continents similarly affected these nations?
@@raptor124 NEVER!!! Apple is dying. No innovation, and their shady practices have become more apparent during the last years. Even hardcore Apple fans are starting to doubt and despise them.
@@raptor124 If the entire economy crashes, Apple goes down with it. Cryptocurrencies are the only non correlated asset in the world. Only food and water can compare with them when it comes to correlation with stocks and other investment instruments. Every company is plagued by scandals, sales, development and research and so on. Real estate can be destroyed by earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes (and extreme weather will only get worse) subprime mortgages and so on. FIAT is just paper and metal. Gold and Silver are just metals, but their historical value will be retained forever, plus they are scarce. And the only investment instrument to be immune to all of this is crypto. Only if the whole planet explodes or goes into apocalypse (and internet dies), that's the only thing that can destroy Bitcoin and Monero!
Another thing worth noting is that a lot of the countries that had shorter life expectancies and larger families at the beginning were all for the most part based on an agrarian system (farming). In a farming economy/society commonly 2+ generations lived together and parents had a lot of children so they had help on the farm. Then they started to industrialize, machines replaced humans and they moved to cities. They didn't need extra help/didn't have the means or space to support a big family.
I was briefly in the USSR in 1972, where someone quoted a stat, saying child mortality was lower than in the USA, and went on waxing lyrical on the USSR's free-for-all & superior health system. He was factually right. 20 years later, I was "back in the USSR", or rather, what was left of it (the CIS), another guy told me they used to have three months (3 months) to declare a birth to authorities (we have three days, yes *days* to do so in France). As a result, most infant mortality did not make it into stats. There you go. Take-away: not lying does not mean telling the truth. I'm saying that because the speech opens up with a child mortality comparison, without saying a word on the reliability of stat collection. You could say anything you want there.
Exactly! This is not even to speak of all the millions of unregistered people in countries like India, China, or Brazil... Then again, having visited some of those countries, I am quite sure that these statistics hold some truth. However, the true division between third world and first world is now in other things than health, because most horrible infant diseases got eradicated by health organisations: income inequality, corruption, stability of political institutions, violence, etc.
I've heard this in regards to European stats, too. Some countries don't count an infant dying before one month of age as an actual infant. They don't count the death until after one month. Meanwhile, the US counts all deaths, from birth onwards in their stat. Naturally the one that leaves out the first and most dangerous month for newborns is going to have a lower child mortality.
Not only a truth teller but one that helped people visualize reality. May he rest in peace. He certainly did his bit to make a peaceful, prosperous world.
I would suggest a more important criterion, education. Your country will move faster if people are better educated, particularly if the women are educated.
Nussbaum Cause a very important factor not considered by Rosling is how OECD countries exploited third world countries for free natural resources & cheap labour or even slavery. Data is data, but its all a matter of perspective!
Roses Of Time you don't know how to read that table. It is in an alphabetical order. Have you seen the murder rate in Brazil? Venezuela? Denmark? Where did you study?!
Just wondering what software was he using in 2007 to generate and present this data in such a animated way. Look at how he switches between graphs at 8:50 - I was amazed in 2019!
You need to get out more or something. There's nothing special about his animation. I could have done it myself way back in the 90s at least, if not earlier.
no really, you could have done that in 1998, seriously there's nothing 2007 about those :D 2007 is perhaps over 10 years ago, but it still was modern age and PCs were dual cores around 3GHZ already :D
@@diabl2master I see a few, but not seeing where 'many countries' showed below 10. What did you set to find that? Today, I didn't deviate much from the link provided. In the past, I was intrigued for nearly an hour looking at stats & then bookmarked it.
For those who say how 1 billion are malnourished today, are you aware that in 1939 for example over 80 percents of worlds population were malnourished? Poverty was the norm just half a century ago in most of the world, now it is slowly becoming a minority instead of the majority.
I think the most interesting part was how far off people's perceptions were of health throughout the world. As he found, people would have been better off flipping a coin than using their knowledge and intuition. "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain
***** I notice all of your arguments in here are empty of content. Demonstrate either how he does not understand the statistics or how the data itself is wrong
It is a big mistake to believe that current trends simply have to continue. The increase in global well-being is due to an unsustainable exploitation of resources. As long as resources remain, things might continue to get better, but when they are all used up (and most of them will be used up by the end of this century), a large part of humanity (especially in Africa) will most likely fall into the abyss. There is no contradiction between such predictions and Rosling's data. This planet simply is not big enough to sustainably support the current 7 billion people, let alone the future 11 billion people.
Once I've heard of something like this...it was called The limits of growth. You know what? Both you and them severely underestimate humanity. The estimated minable oil supplies, for example, have never been higher than today. During this century, we will propably start mining on asteroids, 3D printing everything from houses to cars which will severely decrease the waste we produce, and this way, we will adapt. We were always at the brink of destruction...but standing anywhere farther from the edge would just be too expensive. For everyone. That's why people tend to do nothing. It it is not YET too late...and when the time will come to ring the warning bell, you won't be alone, because by that time, falling OFF the edge would be too expensive, so people will unite and change the direction...
In order for africa to become a developed continent it must industrialize and in order for it to industrialize it must effectively exploit its farmland. For some reason africans seem uninterested in farming or unable to do it.
Two most important concepts I got from this: 1) There can not be a 'globalised' solution to a Region ie. Africa. The disparity between countries and within countries themselves demands a specific solution to each specific circumstance. 2) That health is more important than wealth in determining a country's progression. Great stuff!
Excellent presentation. The only negative I could find, is when he said, "health, cannot be found at the grocery store." His presentation suggests that health equals long life and infant mortality rates. I would also like to see the data for chronic diseases, like Cancer, Diabetes, etc. as compared between the countries and income.
+sallyxl tang Is it just visualization . ? I think there are lot of big data algorithms going on . More statistics than visualizing it .. Great combo of statistics and computer science
He did a fantastic job, I've put Gapminder on my desktop for future reference. Also interesting to see that such a huge proportion of the comments here are only a day or two old, Rosling's work is getting noticed.
@@VndNvwYvvSvv do you dispute the numbers Rosling uses? Do you have figures that refute the points he makes? Are you just a shallow troll that has nothing but bluster?
and becouse propaganda is flooding youtube nowedays. easy to see in talks like this. look at the graphs he's using, they are never linier so it gives a distorted vieuw of the data so he can give his own spin on it. As in its just a bunch of bullshit he's spewing
I'm so glad TED Talks is on the internet to educate and inspire us. After all the bias and punditry we are subjected to on a daily basis, it's wonderful to hear something fascinating and backed up by sound research and solid facts.
@ I agree, however most people won't make the difference anyway but ge tthe right message. But axis are labeled so for an informed citizen it is still fine
@krishnatheid Among mathematically sophisticated researchers, log scales are quite widely and correctly used. The slope has well defined and useful properties and the graph can be more meaningfully viewed for some scatter diagrams. So it is in fact the lack of mathematics that leads to your objections. The one good point you may be trying to make is that log scales make the distribution seem less severe.
@@twirlipofthemists3201 Depends on when you're, In the real first world countries the health sistem is already universal. While being wealthy will bring you a better experience in healthcare it won't affect much at the final result of how healthy you're. At least once you take drugs out of the picture, since being unhealthy because of drugs like alcohol and tobacco is purely the fault of the druggie.
This software could also be used to show the difference in education, between the industrialized nations, by entering the data of graduated scientists, and economic specialists, high school graduates vs drop out rates, and the such. It would be very interesting to see where the US would stack up under such scrutiny, as evident by "todaysprogramming" The US would not fare so well. This data then could be shown, to really get a better grasp of our education system in America.
Best ted talk, so important for people to know this. The image the media is depicting is so skewed, leaving people thinking it's too late to make any change. It makes all the difference when we're making daily choices like sorting trash, buying environmentally conscious products and services.
I still don't see western poeple immigrating to those Asian and African countries by the hordes. But the opposite is true. It's the quality of life and outlook on civilization that's the real gap.
500-100 years ago, you certainly would see western people migrating by the millions over the whole world. The World Wars and Cold War severely disrupted western migration (aka colonialism). Now that birth rates in the west are low and the populations of Asia and Africa are no longer low (and the Americas are well colonized), there is no longer demand or land supply for migration. Quality of life and cultural differences are irrelevant IF there is demand for migration, a lot of empty undeveloped land, and therefore government and big business support to sustain western mass migration and conquest of other continents.
the point of showing the "gap" is not to say that there is absolutely no one between the richest and poorest, but mainly to show that a country isn't composed of a big blob of "averaged" income, but that there ARE upper extremes of richer people and lower extremes of poorer people in each country. the blob of "averaged" income, without showing the rich extremity, often makes a country's economic situation seem worse than it is.
Usually I just do work and fuck around on the internet and play one of these videos in the background, but for some reason this video was particularly captivating and I found myself ACTUALLY watching the video. Hmm.....
Outraged at that second graph he showed about income in different regions!! He used a logarithmic scale on the x-axis, which is absolutely stupid, if he would have used a linear scale, it would become evident that, although the countries did move together, it's virtually negligible because of the logarithmic scale... don't believe everything given to you.
A lot of things in real life operate at a logarithmic/exponential rate and logarithmic scales in statistics aren't rare or useless. I'm not sure about this case but it seems ok to me.
I think the problem is not the usage of the logarithmic scale per-se, but that he pretty much exploits the visual effect of logarithmic scale to prove his point. As in he says two peaks are close which are in fact separated by an order of magnitude.
I like how simply making more money is considered poverty reduction. Somehow inflation of the costs goods and services is irrelevant. Let's say you made $1/hr and a week worth of groceries cost $20 that's 20 hours for a week of food, and you are in poverty. Let's say you make $10/hr but a weeks worth of groceries $250. You make over what is considered poverty, but it takes you 5 more hours for the same amount of food. This applies to almost everything.
its because the vast majority of users on youtube are interested in truth, unabashed, unadulterated. The real question you should be asking, is why did the algorithm push it INTO the trash for 12 years, when it's very clearly relevant and useful information. But to answer your question is no matter how much google games the algorithm, the sheer amount of people desiring truth is forcing the algorithm to comply despite the rigging.
@@harryflashman4542 Populations of people with relatively high median IQ tend to create wealth and social cooperation. Populations with lower median IQ tend to produce less wealth and practice much less social cooperation. There will always be a desire (and tendency) for people who come from the latter group to wish to immigrate from their homeland to that of the former group and ride the wave of prosperity that has been created.
@@endoalley680 I get it the other way around. There is a high negative correlation between cultural reproductive practices and prosperity. Where I live I can get national statistical data on ethnicity, wealth, family size and age group. It is evident that earlier and larger families are highly correlated with ethnicity and religious practices. Social attitude within the group either support early commencement of reproduction or deferment of reproduction until significantly later in life. Some ethnicities and cultures start having children in their teens while others in their forties. This has an enormous effect upon education, qualification and prosperity. I think that lower birthrates are not a consequence of improving prosperity and that as nations become more developed that birthrates will decrease. I think it is the other way around. That lower birthrates are dependent upon changing cultural makeup and this allows development and prosperity. Simply, more money doesn't mean less children. Less children means more money. Socio-economic data supports this. It is the poorer segment of a nations population which is having the largest proportion of children. Even though the nation is getting richer, wealth is becoming more concentrated in social classes which are being reproductively replaced by rapidly increasing poor populations. The trend of lowering birthrates could easily be temporary as high reproduction populations replace low reproduction populations.
@@harryflashman4542 Higher IQ people tend to defer reproduction. K- Strategy parents have fewer children. But spend more time and money on them. They give their children more education opportunities. And the children have a higher probability of themselves reproducing in a K-Strategy manner and prospering later in life. R-Strategy tends to be practiced by lower IQ people. Where more offspring are created. And less is spent on each child. Less opportunity. Lower probability that any given offspring will live to prosper. It still tends to correlate prosperity to General Intelligence of the individual. And countries which have higher IQ populations tend to prosper.
Apparently Hans has been reading Julian L. Simon's book "The Ultimate Resource." If you haven't read it you should. Dr. Simon was proving this stuff 34 years ago.
Sad to just learn that such a wonderful and dynamic teacher has passed away. These are the kinds of rare teachers we need more of in this world, not less. I would love to see someone, maybe one of Hans' past students do an update on these graphs to reflect the current data. Especially the one about Income gap. I have a feelimg that Hans would be surprised to see how that data has changed in the last 15 years... God bless and Rest in peace Hans. You did your best, and you made a difference. But will the world learn from their past? That remains to be seen...
That second sentence of yours... I've yearned to say exactly that many times in the past few years.. but never structured it verbally, nor was I ever likely to, as eloquently as that!
Data in Sub-Saharan countries and other third world countries is highly limited in terms of accuracy. If the data was aggregated by a UN member, they likely didn't poll everyone in the country, but only a small portion. If the data was reported by the local government, it will either appear better than it is (to prevent human rights issues from becoming a problem) or slightly lower than it really is (to get more funding from world bank and other charitable organizations). Data is wonderful, but only when it is accurate. Sample sizes need to be taken into account, and anything too small should be thrown out. Bad data can ruin a system, and your databases need to be properly sanitized in order to prevent inaccurate conclusions.
+Allenrythe True, yet as you accumulate more data over the years, changes are it's likely to get more and more accurate. So even though it may not be perfect, this model should largely be accurate. (since those governments and/or UN members would have done the same thing with the data in 1960 as in 2003)
it's impossible to include 'everyone in the country' in polls. what's done is a test group taken across age income status region etc and then it's interpolated to get the general trend.
There's also an app that can animate data into a VR environment, so you can even go inside and make sense of data in a very intuitive sense. I think the VR space is going to do amazing stuff in education.
8:00 What about inflation? From 1970 to 2000 the inflation of dollar is really close to the shift of the peak and the graph itself (around 5% i.e. 1$ in 1970 = 5$ in 2000)
What about exchange rates? A dollar in America doesn't get you the same amount of bread as it does in Venezuela. The poverty line differs from country to country. Even the big mac index would be a better alternative as it's not effected by exchange rates or inflation. (Though I know that not every country has a big mac index.)
That numbers is already inflation adjusted and PPP in the last graph means that numbers are extrapolated at purchasing power parity index. So these numbers are relatively accurate.
Elias And wealth comes from free people living their private lives as well as their god given talents allow them. But ted talk folks can be predicted to believe collectivism is the answer. Chimps.
Well sure its a very nice presentation and 10 years ago i would agree, but data, statistics and facts show a different picture today. Less and less people own the majority of money in the world. More and more people come out of poverty and that is good, but the gap between the poorest and the richest only keeps rising.
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it's 2019 and whatever program he is using to show this information is better than anything I ever see....
I just wanted to write that commet
Drakkan so true ... SAD!!
The only reason I’m watching this video is because it was released 12 YEARS AGO WTF
Then you haven't seen enough I'm afraid. Lots of visualization tools out there - but like he said, some person-years need to be spent on that for a given area of expertise typically and now that's a shame.
www.gapminder.org/ Yeah here's the website. I used it for my AP Human Geography class in highschool and it was pretty insane.
Rest in peace dear Hans. Thank you for all the knowledge and wisdom you have given the world.
Well said, Matilda. I'm sad he's not with us anymore. :-( He was a lovely person.
How did he die?
@@TWalsh-ji7jh Pancreatic cancer, according to Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rosling
Probably one of the few people at peace with becoming a statistic. X-) #enlightenment
It's always sad when a statistician dies, nowadays where data and facts have become ever more irrelevant to the masses we need them more than ever.
240p we meet again old friend
Love 240p great for cheap internet...NO buffering lol
to be fair, it's a very old video, from 2007 when not many had big bandwidth.
@@Grumpy_old_Boot I remember I'd sometimes switch the video to 480p and wait a few minutes so I could get that premium quality on some videos lmao
@@WheatleyOS
Ah yeah .. back when RUclips would allow you to prebuffer an entire video before playing it.
Even then, most old low-end computers can handle 480p without any trouble, just let it pre-buffer for a bit, then watch until you run out of buffer.
Don't skimp out on quality ! 😁
Back in the days when TED only brought creme d'la creme
How far they've fallen
Now: "How my male menstruation helps me understand Buddhist traditions in a feminist way"
... they really do have any old opinionated crap now
Now they're the VICE of the talk-circuit..
@@VenturiLife some of the crap I've seen lately ... completely opinionated rants
Finally, an educational Ted talk, instead of someone spouting personal stories.
TEDx are generally MUCH worse than actual TED talks. I see a lot of TEDx lately, and yes they're terrible in comparison.
Where is the data showing how kidnap and rape of millions of black women and girls from the African continent to fuel European entrepreneurial greed goals affected Africa's family life, health, economic well being, national development etc? Where's the data showing how murder and enslavement of black males from the African continents similarly affected these nations?
@ Where is the data showing how kidnap and rape of millions of black women and girls from the African continent to fuel European entrepreneurial greed goals affected Africa's family life, health, economic well being, national development etc? Where's the data showing how murder and enslavement of black males from the African continents similarly affected these nations?
@@dtriniboss Are you saying that just because we lack data we should give up all objectivity and fall into bigotry?
@@dtriniboss do you just like to listen to yourself spewing acid or do you actually have a point?
If you're reading this in 2007 I suggest selling your stocks and mining bitcoin in a couple years
Thanks bro I'm rich now
And invest in Apple !
@@raptor124 *google
@@raptor124 NEVER!!! Apple is dying. No innovation, and their shady practices have become more apparent during the last years. Even hardcore Apple fans are starting to doubt and despise them.
@@raptor124 If the entire economy crashes, Apple goes down with it. Cryptocurrencies are the only non correlated asset in the world. Only food and water can compare with them when it comes to correlation with stocks and other investment instruments.
Every company is plagued by scandals, sales, development and research and so on. Real estate can be destroyed by earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes (and extreme weather will only get worse) subprime mortgages and so on. FIAT is just paper and metal. Gold and Silver are just metals, but their historical value will be retained forever, plus they are scarce. And the only investment instrument to be immune to all of this is crypto. Only if the whole planet explodes or goes into apocalypse (and internet dies), that's the only thing that can destroy Bitcoin and Monero!
Would be amazing to see new presentation of the data, to see what has change.
Ikr
on the gapminder youtube channel they posted a full episode made by the BBC covering these and other data with Hans Rosling as the host.
THANKS!
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There is a “new” ted talk by Hans and his son
Another thing worth noting is that a lot of the countries that had shorter life expectancies and larger families at the beginning were all for the most part based on an agrarian system (farming). In a farming economy/society commonly 2+ generations lived together and parents had a lot of children so they had help on the farm. Then they started to industrialize, machines replaced humans and they moved to cities. They didn't need extra help/didn't have the means or space to support a big family.
I was briefly in the USSR in 1972, where someone quoted a stat, saying child mortality was lower than in the USA, and went on waxing lyrical on the USSR's free-for-all & superior health system. He was factually right.
20 years later, I was "back in the USSR", or rather, what was left of it (the CIS), another guy told me they used to have three months (3 months) to declare a birth to authorities (we have three days, yes *days* to do so in France). As a result, most infant mortality did not make it into stats. There you go.
Take-away: not lying does not mean telling the truth.
I'm saying that because the speech opens up with a child mortality comparison, without saying a word on the reliability of stat collection. You could say anything you want there.
Exactly! This is not even to speak of all the millions of unregistered people in countries like India, China, or Brazil...
Then again, having visited some of those countries, I am quite sure that these statistics hold some truth. However, the true division between third world and first world is now in other things than health, because most horrible infant diseases got eradicated by health organisations: income inequality, corruption, stability of political institutions, violence, etc.
I've heard this in regards to European stats, too. Some countries don't count an infant dying before one month of age as an actual infant. They don't count the death until after one month. Meanwhile, the US counts all deaths, from birth onwards in their stat. Naturally the one that leaves out the first and most dangerous month for newborns is going to have a lower child mortality.
How the F a 12 years old video showed up in my recomendations?
RUclips recommendations have become weird, they were better few years ago.
@@CaptainSnuggleButt RUclips thought you were intelligent.
same lol
@@CaptainSnuggleButt #agenda of programming
Why does the age of a video bother people???
Who's is here and is amaze in 2019/2020 and today by this 2007 presentation. Wow
Me! And I’m very humbled. I work with statistics at a bank and we never built anything this beautiful.
the presentation on the website nowadays its even better, check gapminder.org
Y’all wild it was 2007 not 1999 they had iPods then chill out
2021
lmao
Not only a truth teller but one that helped people visualize reality.
May he rest in peace. He certainly did his bit to make a peaceful, prosperous world.
INSTANT REPLAY
@13:08 "You[r country] can move much faster if you are healthy first", I wish one day we'll all understand that...
I would suggest a more important criterion, education. Your country will move faster if people are better educated, particularly if the women are educated.
@richard mccann Fingers crossed you might get super powers.
@richard mccannwrong, there is a thing called dilution, look it up
This is an incredible presentation of data and statistics.
*****
Data is data. I fail to see how it's insulting.
Nussbaum Cause a very important factor not considered by Rosling is how OECD countries exploited third world countries for free natural resources & cheap labour or even slavery. Data is data, but its all a matter of perspective!
Roses Of Time you don't know how to read that table. It is in an alphabetical order. Have you seen the murder rate in Brazil? Venezuela? Denmark? Where did you study?!
Agreed!
More true now than ever. Ted are becoming leftist social justice warriors.
2007 - TED Golden Age
Just wondering what software was he using in 2007 to generate and present this data in such a animated way. Look at how he switches between graphs at 8:50 - I was amazed in 2019!
Gapminder tools
exactly, mybe flash lol
You need to get out more or something. There's nothing special about his animation. I could have done it myself way back in the 90s at least, if not earlier.
Freeda Peeple Only if you had a good tool. I know people who cannot go beyond a PowerPoint presentation to present anything.
no really, you could have done that in 1998, seriously there's nothing 2007 about those :D
2007 is perhaps over 10 years ago, but it still was modern age and PCs were dual cores around 3GHZ already :D
I would love to see today's stats... Been a decade since this.
@@matteok5888 This needs to be pinned to the top!
@ted
@@matteok5888 According to this many countries had life expectancy below 10 in 1918.....??????
I feel that maybe it shows average age of people who died in that year.
@@diabl2master I see a few, but not seeing where 'many countries' showed below 10. What did you set to find that? Today, I didn't deviate much from the link provided.
In the past, I was intrigued for nearly an hour looking at stats & then bookmarked it.
Does anyone else miss the good old days when TED Talks posted videos like this that were actually worth watching?
At least one person we can be proud of in Sweden
:(
I assume you have no knowledge about Felix Kjellberg
@@arushan54 Nop
What about Zlatan Ibrahimovic?
@@tocosw2888 Yes , if he does some charity.
For those who say how 1 billion are malnourished today, are you aware that in 1939 for example over 80 percents of worlds population were malnourished? Poverty was the norm just half a century ago in most of the world, now it is slowly becoming a minority instead of the majority.
@@JohnDavis-im1oy Said the RUclips professor.
I think the most interesting part was how far off people's perceptions were of health throughout the world. As he found, people would have been better off flipping a coin than using their knowledge and intuition. "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain
Watching this in 2019...still love the way he presented it. Never knew that statistics could be this interesting
This guy's sense of humor is quintessential Swedish sense of humor. I love Sweden.
Its amazing that even if you show this type of data to some people they will still insist that humanity is about to fall into the abyss.
*****
I notice all of your arguments in here are empty of content. Demonstrate either how he does not understand the statistics or how the data itself is wrong
AtlanticZealot Maybe Alex is waiting for everyone respond in the form of a question.
It is a big mistake to believe that current trends simply have to continue. The increase in global well-being is due to an unsustainable exploitation of resources. As long as resources remain, things might continue to get better, but when they are all used up (and most of them will be used up by the end of this century), a large part of humanity (especially in Africa) will most likely fall into the abyss. There is no contradiction between such predictions and Rosling's data. This planet simply is not big enough to sustainably support the current 7 billion people, let alone the future 11 billion people.
Once I've heard of something like this...it was called The limits of growth.
You know what? Both you and them severely underestimate humanity. The estimated minable oil supplies, for example, have never been higher than today. During this century, we will propably start mining on asteroids, 3D printing everything from houses to cars which will severely decrease the waste we produce, and this way, we will adapt.
We were always at the brink of destruction...but standing anywhere farther from the edge would just be too expensive. For everyone. That's why people tend to do nothing. It it is not YET too late...and when the time will come to ring the warning bell, you won't be alone, because by that time, falling OFF the edge would be too expensive, so people will unite and change the direction...
In order for africa to become a developed continent it must industrialize and in order for it to industrialize it must effectively exploit its farmland. For some reason africans seem uninterested in farming or unable to do it.
My condolences to Hans Rosling familywe have lost a great man Hans, you'll be greatly mist. from friends in Toronto Canada.
Missed* big difference
Look at the data before you have a judgement. Best
"the improvement of the world needs to be highly contextualized"
Bloody brilliant !
i think the most amazing part of this presentation are the slideshow animations
btw here is his website that shows all the data visualized and more www.gapminder.org/ sadly he passed away in 2017 in cancer
btw here is his website that shows all the data visualized and more www.gapminder.org/ sadly he passed away in 2017 in cancer
Most incredible data visualization presentation I've ever seen!
RIP Hans Rosling
20 years onwards we're now at the start of 2024.
I'd love to hear this presentation with the latest data.
In the middle of the video, I was thinking "How can I get those data?". He answered it at the end. :)
Two most important concepts I got from this:
1) There can not be a 'globalised' solution to a Region ie. Africa. The disparity between countries and within countries themselves demands a specific solution to each specific circumstance.
2) That health is more important than wealth in determining a country's progression.
Great stuff!
Excellent presentation. The only negative I could find, is when he said, "health, cannot be found at the grocery store." His presentation suggests that health equals long life and infant mortality rates. I would also like to see the data for chronic diseases, like Cancer, Diabetes, etc. as compared between the countries and income.
and age at time of death doesnt at all reflect illness?
+shayaneo1 age at the time of death ≠ life expectancy at birth
This guy's a really good lecturer. He turned an interesting, but somewhat dry subject into an engaging talk.
I definitely enjoyed it.
this is the most interesting talk on data visualization !!
+sallyxl tang Is it just visualization . ? I think there are lot of big data algorithms going on . More statistics than visualizing it .. Great combo of statistics and computer science
+sanch Sanchayan nope. The thing you're seeing is called "Descriptive Statistics". Not much of "big data algorithms going on"
sallyxl tang note my comment about the issue with this visualization.
He did a fantastic job, I've put Gapminder on my desktop for future reference. Also interesting to see that such a huge proportion of the comments here are only a day or two old, Rosling's work is getting noticed.
You mean being pushed by the M.L. "Fairness "algorithm for political agendas of the left.
@@VndNvwYvvSvv do you dispute the numbers Rosling uses? Do you have figures that refute the points he makes? Are you just a shallow troll that has nothing but bluster?
Here from my cultural geography class
Why is this in recomended in 2019?
because the truth is universal
Maybe because recomending a leftist saying Mao gave health to China (he killed 45 millions of people) is not a good idea
and becouse propaganda is flooding youtube nowedays. easy to see in talks like this. look at the graphs he's using, they are never linier so it gives a distorted vieuw of the data so he can give his own spin on it. As in its just a bunch of bullshit he's spewing
@@21Roofdog @Mediatard You two should look up what a logarithmic scale is. If he didn't do that nothing would be visible because of scaling issues.
@@21Roofdog Sounds like he could have added some slides on scientific literacy vs. political ideology. The US would be pretty interesting I think.
I'm so glad TED Talks is on the internet to educate and inspire us. After all the bias and punditry we are subjected to on a daily basis, it's wonderful to hear something fascinating and backed up by sound research and solid facts.
6:20 . Hans' graph uses logarithmic (as opposed to linear) scale, thereby scrunching up the data points close together.
It does not matter as the highlight is the evolution of disparity over time
@ I agree, however most people won't make the difference anyway but ge tthe right message. But axis are labeled so for an informed citizen it is still fine
@krishnatheid Among mathematically sophisticated researchers, log scales are quite widely and correctly used. The slope has well defined and useful properties and the graph can be more meaningfully viewed for some scatter diagrams. So it is in fact the lack of mathematics that leads to your objections. The one good point you may be trying to make is that log scales make the distribution seem less severe.
Only if my professors were this enthusiastic!!
We need a 2020 version of this
My father says, I'd rather be healthy than be a millionaire.
Bri San Unfortunately, the best and easiest way to be healthy is to be rich.
Or maybe his father is a millionaire that's gotten sick...
"It is better to be healthy and wealthy than poor and sick."
- French proverb
@@twirlipofthemists3201 Depends on when you're, In the real first world countries the health sistem is already universal. While being wealthy will bring you a better experience in healthcare it won't affect much at the final result of how healthy you're.
At least once you take drugs out of the picture, since being unhealthy because of drugs like alcohol and tobacco is purely the fault of the druggie.
Do you even know what the term “Beta male” even means? Because chances are statistically overwhelming, you are one.
This software could also be used to show the difference in education, between the industrialized nations, by entering the data of graduated scientists, and economic specialists, high school graduates vs drop out rates, and the such. It would be very interesting to see where the US would stack up under such scrutiny, as evident by "todaysprogramming" The US would not fare so well. This data then could be shown, to really get a better grasp of our education system in America.
Someone needs to make a similar video in the current context.
He shouldn't have used the log scale in his graphs. The overlap is WAYY overstated. But his ideas for statistical sharing are very noble!
What software was used to make the presentation?
Trendalyzer (the software)
I hope this can help you.
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Best ted talk, so important for people to know this. The image the media is depicting is so skewed, leaving people thinking it's too late to make any change. It makes all the difference when we're making daily choices like sorting trash, buying environmentally conscious products and services.
sad that it only has a little over half a million views...this talk needs to go VIRAL!
"You can move much faster if you're healthy first rather than wealthy first" Fascinating.
The Pope should see this since he believes capitalism is a scourge
He's a lying scumbucket. Not surprising since he is a Jesuit.
Yeh, while he counts his millions.
I would love to see this guy back at TED with a follow up presentation on how things have progressed since 2003.
I still don't see western poeple immigrating to those Asian and African countries by the hordes. But the opposite is true. It's the quality of life and outlook on civilization that's the real gap.
500-100 years ago, you certainly would see western people migrating by the millions over the whole world. The World Wars and Cold War severely disrupted western migration (aka colonialism). Now that birth rates in the west are low and the populations of Asia and Africa are no longer low (and the Americas are well colonized), there is no longer demand or land supply for migration. Quality of life and cultural differences are irrelevant IF there is demand for migration, a lot of empty undeveloped land, and therefore government and big business support to sustain western mass migration and conquest of other continents.
the point of showing the "gap" is not to say that there is absolutely no one between the richest and poorest,
but mainly to show that a country isn't composed of a big blob of "averaged" income, but that there ARE upper extremes of richer people and lower extremes of poorer people in each country. the blob of "averaged" income, without showing the rich extremity, often makes a country's economic situation seem worse than it is.
It deserves an update.
sadly he is dead, died by cancer in 2017
sadly he is dead, died by cancer in 2017
4:15 That was the most frustrating camera angle! Awesome and thought-provoking talk
Thanks for all your hard work and knowledge! Rest In Peace.
Usually I just do work and fuck around on the internet and play one of these videos in the background, but for some reason this video was particularly captivating and I found myself ACTUALLY watching the video. Hmm.....
Read IQ and the Wealth of Nations
This guy is right
This guy is right
Good presentation. The use of the log scale was to show there is a trend that the severity of poverty is decreasing.
Outraged at that second graph he showed about income in different regions!! He used a logarithmic scale on the x-axis, which is absolutely stupid, if he would have used a linear scale, it would become evident that, although the countries did move together, it's virtually negligible because of the logarithmic scale... don't believe everything given to you.
A lot of things in real life operate at a logarithmic/exponential rate and logarithmic scales in statistics aren't rare or useless. I'm not sure about this case but it seems ok to me.
The Pareto distribution almost guarantees a logarithmic scale.
@tupac , I think this is just good statistics, not necessarily anything nefarious. You use logs to highlight a trend... unless you are a newspaper ;-)
I think the problem is not the usage of the logarithmic scale per-se, but that he pretty much exploits the visual effect of logarithmic scale to prove his point. As in he says two peaks are close which are in fact separated by an order of magnitude.
sad to hear you have passed on. your clips are precise and concise . thanks for sharing your wisdom with the world
That's cool software for the time.
Shame we've lost him.
i'd love to see an updated version of this presentation. RIP Hans.
The energy. Awesome. Hans Gosling, you are a data mining and analysis god.
what did he use to generate this presentation? This is a very nice way to present data!
Remember when Ted had the best of best on their fields? Now they barely fact check their speakers
4:15 to 5:00 very well may have been the most exciting 45 seconds of my life.
I like how simply making more money is considered poverty reduction. Somehow inflation of the costs goods and services is irrelevant.
Let's say you made $1/hr and a week worth of groceries cost $20 that's 20 hours for a week of food, and you are in poverty.
Let's say you make $10/hr but a weeks worth of groceries $250.
You make over what is considered poverty, but it takes you 5 more hours for the same amount of food.
This applies to almost everything.
Absolutely amazing. This should be in our education system.
ok youtube algorithm why did you dish this out of the trash 12 years after uploading it
I thik the algorithm thought that it would make the west feel bad. Yet it is disproving myths, especially in how socialist planning fails.
I too would like to know... don't mind it tho.
don't you know? stats videos are all the rage now in 2019
its because the vast majority of users on youtube are interested in truth, unabashed, unadulterated. The real question you should be asking, is why did the algorithm push it INTO the trash for 12 years, when it's very clearly relevant and useful information. But to answer your question is no matter how much google games the algorithm, the sheer amount of people desiring truth is forcing the algorithm to comply despite the rigging.
bcuz it's good and the guy has a funny accent
this is my favorite TED talk so far. mainstream news would NEVER have this guy present data.
Hans has been on mainstream news many times. He has even done productions together with, e.g., BBC
Steven Pinker seems to be echoing this same line of reasoning. Things are getting much better than most people realize.
Then why the mass migration? Professor Collier (UN) has an entirely different perspective.
@@harryflashman4542 Populations of people with relatively high median IQ tend to create wealth and social cooperation. Populations with lower median IQ tend to produce less wealth and practice much less social cooperation. There will always be a desire (and tendency) for people who come from the latter group to wish to immigrate from their homeland to that of the former group and ride the wave of prosperity that has been created.
@@endoalley680 I get it the other way around. There is a high negative correlation between cultural reproductive practices and prosperity.
Where I live I can get national statistical data on ethnicity, wealth, family size and age group.
It is evident that earlier and larger families are highly correlated with ethnicity and religious practices. Social attitude within the group either support early commencement of reproduction or deferment of reproduction until significantly later in life.
Some ethnicities and cultures start having children in their teens while others in their forties.
This has an enormous effect upon education, qualification and prosperity.
I think that lower birthrates are not a consequence of improving prosperity and that as nations become more developed that birthrates will decrease.
I think it is the other way around. That lower birthrates are dependent upon changing cultural makeup and this allows development and prosperity.
Simply, more money doesn't mean less children. Less children means more money.
Socio-economic data supports this. It is the poorer segment of a nations population which is having the largest proportion of children. Even though the nation is getting richer, wealth is becoming more concentrated in social classes which are being reproductively replaced by rapidly increasing poor populations.
The trend of lowering birthrates could easily be temporary as high reproduction populations replace low reproduction populations.
@@harryflashman4542 Higher IQ people tend to defer reproduction. K- Strategy parents have fewer children. But spend more time and money on them. They give their children more education opportunities. And the children have a higher probability of themselves reproducing in a K-Strategy manner and prospering later in life. R-Strategy tends to be practiced by lower IQ people. Where more offspring are created. And less is spent on each child. Less opportunity. Lower probability that any given offspring will live to prosper. It still tends to correlate prosperity to General Intelligence of the individual. And countries which have higher IQ populations tend to prosper.
Apparently Hans has been reading Julian L. Simon's book "The Ultimate Resource." If you haven't read it you should. Dr. Simon was proving this stuff 34 years ago.
It's a proven fact. With better lifestyles and opportunities - in any era - people will have fewer numbers of children.
What a brilliant data visualisation. RIP Prof. Rosling.
Which "myths" was the speaker trying to debunk?
Peter That lives are short in third world countries...
Watch the video
Sad to just learn that such a wonderful and dynamic teacher has passed away. These are the kinds of rare teachers we need more of in this world, not less.
I would love to see someone, maybe one of Hans' past students do an update on these graphs to reflect the current data. Especially the one about Income gap. I have a feelimg that Hans would be surprised to see how that data has changed in the last 15 years...
God bless and Rest in peace Hans. You did your best, and you made a difference. But will the world learn from their past? That remains to be seen...
What is that software he used??? It looks awesome
+Mr.Bremos96 www.gapminder.org
and then click Gapminder world and you can use it online.
marten gisby Thank you!
+marten gisby thank you, would be interest to see what change since the presentation
That second sentence of yours... I've yearned to say exactly that many times in the past few years.. but never structured it verbally, nor was I ever likely to, as eloquently as that!
TED has really come a long way since the 70s.
Vietnamese tend to stick to a Vietnamese diet too, which next to the Japanese diet is probably one of the healthiest on the planet.
Greek diet must be up there too, no?
@@brother1ray Yes, the traditional Med diet is considered very healthy.
Data in Sub-Saharan countries and other third world countries is highly limited in terms of accuracy. If the data was aggregated by a UN member, they likely didn't poll everyone in the country, but only a small portion. If the data was reported by the local government, it will either appear better than it is (to prevent human rights issues from becoming a problem) or slightly lower than it really is (to get more funding from world bank and other charitable organizations). Data is wonderful, but only when it is accurate. Sample sizes need to be taken into account, and anything too small should be thrown out. Bad data can ruin a system, and your databases need to be properly sanitized in order to prevent inaccurate conclusions.
+Allenrythe True, yet as you accumulate more data over the years, changes are it's likely to get more and more accurate. So even though it may not be perfect, this model should largely be accurate. (since those governments and/or UN members would have done the same thing with the data in 1960 as in 2003)
it's impossible to include 'everyone in the country' in polls. what's done is a test group taken across age income status region etc and then it's interpolated to get the general trend.
Allenrythe I bet you just hate the UN. I also bet you can't really explain why.
This is the power of data and data visualization for understanding the world. Great software!
WAO 2007!!! so much forward thinking!
Read his book! Factfullness, its probobly one of the best books ive ever read
btw here is his website that shows all the data visualized and more www.gapminder.org/ sadly he passed away in 2017 in cancer
Thanks for your great contributions to humankind, Hans!
christ how old is this video
Seriously good. And every person who says that only secondary sciences are real sciences, just watch this video!!
STRAIGHT FROM HEART FROM AN HONEST MAN
There's also an app that can animate data into a VR environment, so you can even go inside and make sense of data in a very intuitive sense. I think the VR space is going to do amazing stuff in education.
8:00 What about inflation? From 1970 to 2000 the inflation of dollar is really close to the shift of the peak and the graph itself (around 5% i.e. 1$ in 1970 = 5$ in 2000)
What about exchange rates? A dollar in America doesn't get you the same amount of bread as it does in Venezuela. The poverty line differs from country to country. Even the big mac index would be a better alternative as it's not effected by exchange rates or inflation. (Though I know that not every country has a big mac index.)
That numbers is already inflation adjusted and PPP in the last graph means that numbers are extrapolated at purchasing power parity index. So these numbers are relatively accurate.
Thank you Hans, i really appreciate what you did. The world is in need of a new Hans.
health is wealth
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Elias And wealth comes from free people living their private lives as well as their god given talents allow them. But ted talk folks can be predicted to believe collectivism is the answer. Chimps.
i was sceptical at first about using data to prove things but certain things in this presentation can't be denied. a very good video, opened my eyes.
Bottomline is educate people, build a non-consumption based economy, and reduce number of children. That can save the world.
Can you describe what a non consumption based society in the 21st century looks like?
I'm really interested to see an update to this data for the last 12 years
Well sure its a very nice presentation and 10 years ago i would agree, but data, statistics and facts show a different picture today. Less and less people own the majority of money in the world. More and more people come out of poverty and that is good, but the gap between the poorest and the richest only keeps rising.
as long as the poor don't go lower, let the richest go super up. let them reach maximum potential. (entrepreneurs not politicians)
This man is so brilliant and charismatic, I could listen to him all day