@@HighPeakAutos I have to agree with David. I watched this video as I was considering getting a ute - I used to have a family that relied on a passenger car, and now they are older and no longer reliant, so I wanted a ute to move things to and from my house. I got the Steed in AU. Feels like Im driving a Ute. Handles just like a Ute. Because it's a Ute. And I saved like 20 grand compared to other brands that had comparable extras. Im in no hurry to complain - and plus, I have a shiny new car :)
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Yep. He takes it to a new level doesn't he. Great Wall is one of the largest vehicle manufacturers in the world and he didn't know that? They produced and sold over 1 million vehicles worldwide in 2016. Lastly, if a vehicle doesn't appear to fit into his narrow functional requirements, he bags it. One of the worst reviews I have seen in some time. 🤔
@@53glowe Give the guy a break. Great Wall is a big player in China and Asia, but it's still largely unknown in Europe and the US. It does not matter how many units a manufacturer has sold if those units have not made it your way: You won't know it exists.
GWM has been an established brand here in South Africa. The Steed is based on the Isuzu Rodeo you mentioned The 3rd, 4th and 5th generation Isuzu Dmax pickups were all used as the base for various Chinese brands such as Foton, JMC etc. The GWM Hover or H5 SUV is an old Isuzu Axiom from 2001-2002. GWM have sold a number of pick up trucks or bakkies as they known here in SA but are still a minor player, compared to Hilux and Ranger sales. In SA its also a value purchase and they are very popular with construction and agricultural businesses.
I had an Isuzu for a while and you're right, the ride is floaty, but I actually enjoyed it! Anyhow, more interesting is that the GWM Steed is actually based on that exact Dmax. They share a chassis and much of the interior... excellent video, as always.
I’m in Australia and I have a Steed. This review is spot on. The cup holder comment is so accurate. Ultimately it’s a good ute and this channel is on the ball
Clarkson wrote a great article on double cabs explaining how the BiK tax rates on them were the big attraction and finished by saying "if you are an accountant you are probably nursing a semi at this point"
Fantastic pickup for the money we have had our dealer maintained chrome edition for 5 years and has not needed anything- unbelievable reliability- wish the same could be said of my brand new m340d bmw !!!! This truck is basic but comfortable and I agree 100% with your comments / great review- such a massive Shame they pulled out of the. Uk - but who could blame them - euro 6 - Australia and South Africa selling thousands and the home market- maybe one day they will come back with their first all electric pick up - unbelievable vehicles
I have worked most of my life in construction plant sales and forestry, I would be totally lost without a double cab pick up truck, it gives me a balanced combination of decent on road drive, good off road drive, load carrying space, 3500kg towing capacity and room for 4-5 people on a short journey, OK fuel consumption is normally just under 30mpg irrespective of what the manufacturers claim, presently I have a Ford Ranger double cab 2.2L 6-speed Auto Limited spec, had several Nissan Navaras before but this is probably the best pick up truck I've had, wonderful chassis when pushed hard - yes I can drive a 4x4 quite fast and not crash. The Great Wall pick up, well its OK for a lifestyle truck but its too flimsy to last in my world.
So you have a Ranger and have had several Navaras. You don't say you've owned, driven or even touched a Great Wall. How do you conclude they're flimsy?
We've had Great Wall vehicles here in Australia for some time. You don't see a lot of them - probably about as often as the Indian manufactured Mahindra. My main concern with such vehicles would be how safe they are in a crash. Really enjoying your reviews. Thanks for the videos.
I live in South Africa and have had a Steed 5 - 4x4 for 6 yrs, been to Namibia/Angola/Zambia/Botswana most of the time on gravel roads, i had a few problems under our 3 year warranty but for the remaining 3years have not spent one cent on the vehicle except for normal service items, not the best pickup on the market but for the price you pay nothing to beat it, will keep it till it falls to pieces, so handy to throw all your garden rubbish in and not bother about scratching it, as a side note the engine was developed by Bosch with Bosch electronics, all drive train is Borg/warner. Good down to earth review
Thanks! Thats interesting to hear your thoughts on it after owning it for many years. I was impressed with it when you remember how cheap it is! Thanks for your comments. :)
Like you I'm not a pick up fan, but it's amazing value. Bye the way I've only just found you're RUclips channel, and subscribed straight away. You're truly professional in front of camera. Top work 👏
Oh wow, didn't expect anyone to know these, have barely seen any of them and they started in the euro market from a factory in my home country (Bulgaria). In 2012, Great Wall Motors went into partnership with Litex Motors to produce these cars for the European market, started with 2k cars a year and went all the way up to 5k a year in 2017... and then Litex motors bankrupted xD. Great Wall cars were supposed to be a big hit in eastern Europe due to the quite low manufacturing cost, the only rival at their price point was Dacia. Keep in mind that the average age of cars on the road in eastern Europe is like 15 years, less than 3-5 year old cars are about as rare as supercars in UK... You see some in big cities, but that's about it. However, initial reviews of Great Wall cars were quite bad. I remember an early Bulgarian review saying you should also buy a gas mask with your Steed, as some exhaust fumes somehow get into the cabin xD. Also, we were baffled why they started with the Steed (a pickup) and marketed it heavily. Pickups are super rare in eastern Europe - predominantly narrow streets and not enough parking spaces, so it can be a tight fit. Plus, economy is important here as fuel ain't cheap (compared to our incomes). For example, minimum salary in Bulgaria is 325 Euro, average is about 500-900 depending on whether you live in a big or small city, while 1L of petrol costs about 1.1 Euro. Even if you can afford it and need a lot of space, judging by what I see on the streets, apparently 99.9% of people prefer to get a ~10 year old crossover or SUV instead of a new Great Wall steed... or any other pickup. I travel to rural places in the mountains for holidays and pickups aren't popular even there. I think the closest place with plenty of pickups is Crete (the greek island), it's full of Toyota Pickups, but I doubt they'll enjoy Great Wall's reliability record xD. PS Great Wall also makes buses, we have quite a few of them in our public transport fleets.
My daily driver is a 2012 Ram 1500, 4.7 V8, standard cab, 8 foot bed. It is a stripped down vehicle which I use for my business. I love my truck. It’s handsome, comfortable, powerful, surprisingly luxurious, for a vehicle with vinyl on the seats and rubber on the floor, gets about 23 mpg on the highway, and has been more reliable than my ‘07 Honda Fit. My truck is great for the US and Canada. It’s part of the rural culture here, and is designed for our infrastructure and landscape. It would be out of place in the UK or Europe. Having said that, neither should such a vehicle be turned into a luxed-out, suburban family hauler, as they are here in the states. Those trucks can retail for 75,000 dollars, and that’s for a 2wd, 1500, light duty pick up. That is beyond absurd for the average family, unless they own a farm or ranch...but people here buy them like they’re going out of style. I actually had to special order a work truck. The dealership had 50 Rams on their lot at the time, and all of them were the afore-mentioned luxe trucks. I thought it was kind of nuts.
Good report, unflattering, honest, factual and no bullshit. Have you lived in Australia or New Zealand? I'm impressed and incidentally, I've owned 2 Great Wall vehicles and confirm everything you've said.
Great Wall has been for sale here in New Zealand for a few years, but I have never known anyone who has had or used one, or seen one reviewed. UTEs VERY popular here, as you would expect though. resale woeful.
Shane Pleasance You rarely see Great Walls here. I was quite impressed with this one especially when you consider the saving. I’m surprised UTEs never became popular over here, it would be a better option than driving a huge pick up truck around
Had a mate drove a Great Wall for two years in Chch, sorry Christchurch NZ. Cheap to buy, run but a bit of a hit on sale - what you would expect. Would have kept longer but found ride on long trips, not as good as the unreliable Hilux he sold it for. Bought a Amarok after that, not the economy he thought (again on the long trips) now like many others bought a Ranger. Fwiw, not particularly brand loyal tho likes the Ranger and would have another, buys what seems best every 2-3 years, his only car, does long trips.
I've got one from 2009 in Australia still running never a major issue new catalytic converter was probably the biggest expense since new. But she is rusting now just replaced bonnet and 2 doors and now looking new
Great Wall sell under a different brand called HAVAL,a fleet of offroaders,starting with H.Tucson size,going up...to the size of Toyota Landcruiser.It's been selling in Australia/Newzealand, South africa,Russia...much cheaper than the Japanees and loaded with 'toys'
Seems to me that you make a good case for just a general workhorse vehicle for those of us that would like a 4x4 that isnt nasty and ott like a RangeBloater or a Disco.. or some other overpriced 4x4 that all ( also ) look the same.. this is the price of a small hatchback!! for those who want a tough 4x4 with loads of space and a decent spec for throwing camping gear, pushbikes, kids and shopping into, without worrying about your shiny Chelsea Tractor getting trashed, this is absolutely perfect..love it, and given that id never heard of it and ive now seen low mileage examples going for the price of a sililar age Clio, i think you may have found me the perfect car.. Nice one!!
Doing very well in South Africa amongst businesses and some farmers (non-brand snobs). Together with Mahindra pick-up trucks they are the best priced. Their Haval SUV's have also taken off here and sell like hot cakes.
I know people will say that it was the base model without airbags or ABS that scored zero in Global NCAP ratings, but they said they doubted even airbags would have increased the rating. They certainly expected better performance from it without those feature. Maybe that's why Great Wall no longer sell new cars in the UK.
We buy more double cabs in South Africa than VW polo’s. The Amarok 3.0 is great. We have a Triton “L200” which works hard and will outlast pretty much any defender.
Pickup trucks are totally lost on me as well, I work on an estate where where there are several, all different makes and models, and all I ever see is people having to empty them completely to get at something buried in the back. Also like you say, can't even fit a set of steps in there, all their crap gets tied to the roof rack. My bosses son for example, the family who own the estate are worth an absolute fortune, lovely people, could go out and buy a Porsche if he wanted, went and bought a ford ranger, simply because his mate on site has one. I will never understand these people.
I’ve got the 2011 Great Wall v200 in Australia and only thing I can fault is the sensitive suspension being it’s leaf springs in the back and torsion bars on the front.. may not have the best power for the 2.0l turbo diesel but still goes well off-road
PLEASE PLEASE WILL YOU STOP MAKING VIDEOS LIKE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We as viewers are not accustomed to watching a decent/excellent / well presented and most of all honest review from a You tuber that doesn't shout at you, tell you how much money they have, give you a 0-60 mph and constantly break the speed limit whilst doing so etc etc. Please stop it and get a grip man. 😁😁😁😁 Do hope that was a dam good telling off from one of your loyal followers.
Thank you! I really appreciate your support! I'll keep doing the same if thats what's working. I hope it doesn't come across as boring, but I think it's all about the cars and sharing my opinion, rather than me trying to sell you a product, or entice you with clickbait titles and vulgar displays of wealth.
Agree, gettin tired of this guys highly informative presenting and seemingly sound buying advice. This man obviously has no conflict of interest or hidden agenda's. .....bit drawn out at times, but Simple to watch, relatable and exactly what a normal person wants. Not a "youtuber"
🤣🤣 he needs a good telling off. Too much of a good job. I've become a loyal follower because he speaks the truth. Which is a rare of hen's teeth or as I like to say donkeys horns 🤣
I was looking into buying this, then I noticed this on the UK website. Greatwall sales now ceased across Europe Sales of Greatwall motor cars have now ceased across Europe. However, we wish to reassure Greatwall owners that all after sales services will continue unaffected. Therefore, the supply of spare parts will continue, and warranty work and servicing will be carried out at our official UK dealer network.
Who makes the engines for Great Wall? The 2.4 four-cylinder petrol engine is a joint venture engine widely used in China and originally bought under licence from Mitsubishi. The diesel in the Great Wall is the maker's first common rail turbo diesel - some of the development was done with Bosch in Australia.24 Aug 2011
@@wyattfamily8997 Okay Tory. Chinese autos are actually becoming pretty common now - MG are semi-popular, not to mention how many other car brands are Chinese owned (Geely are pretty massive). I'm no fan of China or the PRC, shouldn't even need to state that to defend a pretty trivial thing.
I personally drove the single cab steed 5 on the harsh South African terrain , 80kms new to 149000kms I loved every minute of that truck. I hate negative reviews because I personally loved the Gwm
These things would make perfect council vehicles with the crew cab and lockable back for tools. Would save some money... edit maintenance would be the issue as that cambelt could need changing alot given its pitiful 45k mile interval.
Chinese cars are wonderful! How could anyone not love things like the Lamb Roller Discoverer, Strange Dover Sport, Walksvogen Dolph, Auzi PP...legends, one and all.
They make your iPhones too, pal:) and what was the last decently designed and manufactured product in England? I don’t think the term “cheap Chinese tat” applies these days. Much like cheap tat Skoda. It’s just not the case anymore:)
@@guinnessharvey4476 They don't make them, they manufacture under strict controls on every aspect of materials and output by the actual makers (eg Apple). The problem with Chinese makers is cost-cutting in materials wherever they can. This has a profound effect on durability and longevity of the kind that doesn't even enter the head of western consumers. A perfect and just singular example of this is the break down of intake tube and manifold plastics after only 12 months in some Chinese cars. The kind of deterioration and splitting we see after 15-25 years in Japanese or German cars. When you see it you realise the cultural differences that form the basis of their distinct version of capitalism.
@@DiscoFang it’s not just about the poor quality of their vehicles either … where I used to work (I’m retired now) we had our own foundry and made replacement parts for Stone Crushers and Industrial Wheelabrator Type Shotblasting Machines … the parts we made were all the internal wear plates and the crusher hammers … they had to be high quality and very hard wearing due to the nature of the work … the Chinese also make these items (copied from the original) and they sell them around half the price of uk made parts … but they’re crap inferior products poorly made and full of blowholes… but try telling that to your customers …. All they look at is the price !! They think that because it looks the same it is the same and at half the price it must be a bargain … but they don’t wear the same and the parts need to be replaced more frequently ….
Because pickups are handier than a van for people who live/work in a rural area because their off road capable and carry a heavier load than suv and they are tougher. Like you would take a Peugeot partner down a rough muddy dirt track to where you need to go
Just found your video. I live in Australia and the great wall is quite popular down here. I have the new Steed and totally agree with your video. Why pay more for less.
Pick ups make no sense over here but I love them in the US. They are so versatile. You can throw a snow plough on the front, they have high ground clearance, most are four wheel drive (all helpful as the majority of Americans live a bit off the street down driveways that get muddy and wet in winter), I've thrown everything from a wardrobe to a V8 in the back. We have panel vans (transits and what not), America has pick up trucks.
It really is a beautiful area. It’s reminiscent of the landscape in rural Pennsylvania, where I grew up. My mother’s side of the family originated in nearby Stockport. I’ve added High Peak to my bucket list, of places I’d like to visit in the U.K.
Not checked this..... but a salesman once told me that you can trace most of the parts to Japanese and European vehicles, that Great Wall have literally copied..... such as, he said the headlights were a direct copy from a recent Golf ? The dashboard is from a rival pickup and the steering wheel from another.... All good though..... as you say, as good as any other for half the money 🙂
I have 2 Mitsubishi Tritons they are strong and reliable good for farm tracks and can carry 1 ton in weight they are auto box and have good specs I use them daily we don't have ford Transit or great wall in Thailand
I have to agree with you, Pick Up trucks just don't make any sense in the UK, none whatsoever. If you need to haul loads of stuff around, buy a Transit for goodness sake. Excellent review too.
I have the new one great wall steed turbo diesel 4wd no problems great to drive great on fuel heated front seats. I have lifted mine up 2" looks good. I installed reverse camera. You would think new would have this safety Feature
Currently looking for cheap Ute for fishing, the cheapest I can found in NZ is 9years old done 351K on clock, current bids on trademe is $3250. Thinking of value for money, way much better thanToyota, both new, GW cost you 29K here in NZ, 9 years later resale for 4K? Lost 25k, New Toyota Hilux 60k+ , 9 years later with same k’s, resale max 20k? Lost more than 40k!
ok you've got me thinking. I've seen these 3 utes online for sale. A 1994 Mazda Ute with 10,000km or 2012 Great Wall ute with 100,000km or 2002 Toyota Hilux ute with over 200,000km? All for a similar price. Wanting to use for light ute duties and maybe light towing.
I have driven pick-ups in Australia and South America and I agree they are pretty crude. However if you want a rugged, reasonably cheap workhorse that can survive being driven on dirt roads for thousands of kms then they are a good bet. More robust than a normal car but much cheaper and simpler than a full on 4WD or SUV. One big downer with the Great Wall is that it doesn't have a very good safety rating which has really stifled sales.
What a great review fella no shit no nonsense just a frriginn great review well done !!!!!!!!!!!!! I just love folk that cut the shit out of what they say !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to admit I have never heard of these until now. I saw a great example of a Ford Ranger for sale at my trusted dealers for almost exactly the same price. If I had the money I prefer the Escalade.. Even over a Lincoln Navigator. Just need a frigging step ladder to check the oil n water and a good lotto win for the maintenance, fuel & running costs. I happen to like it and the price is not too steep.
Very Popular here in South Africa ...Diesel way better than the 2.4 petrol which is a old Mitsubishi based engine with bad fuel economy.. The interior is identical to a 2007 Isuzu kb bakkie (s.a for pick up lol) good value for money pick up though .
Your fan from Tanzania of course we need those kinds of trucks in here because of huge and many bumps in highway and roads... Plus sticky mud we have. HAHAHA
It would apppear that imports have stopped in 2016, still a few dealers listing used examples. The reason given is post 2016 emmissions and no new diesel engine, I find this odd because the Steed is still sold new in other EU countries with a dual fuel lpg 2.4 petrol engine(125bhp) as well as a diesel.
A mate got one of these pickups and it went well so his other mate got one too, after a light crash the damage was verry bad not verry strong at all , the other guy sold his cos he did not feel safe in it
I wonder how far they would get on the Canning Stock Route here in Australia, it's about 1,800 ks long, lots of sand hills, corrugated parts where it shakes your car to pieces, there are around 33 water wells along the track and no help in sight if you breakdown. I'l give it to water well no 2 before turning back before the unthinkable happens. The desert tracks here can make mince meat from poorly manufactured cars / utes / 4x4's and not a nice place to die because of an unreliable car. The Great Wall would be ok on normal roads.
Would love to know from actual users. Takes a certain amount of guts (and lunacy) to take a leap of faith into a new brand in the Australian environment.
The service intervals are very short ... That worries me, because all the extra money you would spend but then there is the Holliday to Barbados.............
Drives ok. Handles fine for a pickup. BUT, the underbody coverage is pants and beyond 6 years it’s likely to fall apart with the rust I see on our one. They have a habit of overheating if you tow with them as well - and it it’s gutless for towing as well. For a few bales on the farm or lightweight stuff then it’ll do as long as you look after it. Heated seats are good it has to be said.
How are these things for parts.. They expensive like other pickups or because its Chinese its cheaper. I kinda want one but nervous because of the unknown badge
There's a lot of reports of dream-runs in these... Just have to stay on top of your servicing. The problem is there's a lot of 4x4 enthusiasts who like to trash talk anything that's not worth £30 K new or more..
I agree with every thing you say here.They were selling these pickups in Israel for a short time with mechanics lined up to service them...i don't know what happened,you don't see them (new ones) any more.The only brand from China is MG and even they are not a'great succes'
You are right in that no one knows what pick ups are useful for. If you are a townie. If you live in the country then you don’t understand how people live without a dirty, bouncy, grotty stinking pickup truck that looks like it could give you an infection just by sitting in it.
Enjoyable review. The reason this truck is so good is that its virtually identical to the 2004 Isuzu , on which it is based. The design, engineering and dash are the same. Great Wall have however now pulled out of the UK .
Pick ups will either fit with someone or they wont. Because of their unique design they have to be able to jump through quite a few hoops to qualify as a daily driver and so for most wont fit this role very well. Thats why so many have had multiple short term owners. But if you are lucky enough to have the money and space for a second vehicle for hobbies then a pick up can be useful. But also consider that the design is improving all the time and in my view the very latest and best just might make a good alternative for the outdoorsy family over the more traditional SUV you see parked in the national trust car park.
Another good video, thansk for the advice on the Range Rover, despite the lack off heater controls Im going in to order a new one tomorrow. It was interstng to hear your opinion on the Great Wall. I have often wondered what they were like, they were quite popular here in NZ the land of the Toyata Hilux, hovere I dont see as many as I did, I believe the Ford Ranger is the top selling Ute here. We have an Amarok which I find to be an excellent car, it is used exclusively as a second car, great on fuel drives great, and really handy for dirt bikes, surf boards etc.
You are spot on! Used one of these type of pick-ups for one day's work - I'm a self employed electrician. Truly awful! Bruised my shins to black 'n'blue climbing in the back to reach tools. Steps don't fit and my FWD van is better on snow with winter tyres. Farmer's tow truck - nothing else.
Couldn't fault a word , another good review , well done 👍
david kenyon Thank you! 👍
@@HighPeakAutos I have to agree with David. I watched this video as I was considering getting a ute - I used to have a family that relied on a passenger car, and now they are older and no longer reliant, so I wanted a ute to move things to and from my house. I got the Steed in AU. Feels like Im driving a Ute. Handles just like a Ute. Because it's a Ute. And I saved like 20 grand compared to other brands that had comparable extras. Im in no hurry to complain - and plus, I have a shiny new car :)
High Peak Autos can you make a review of the Isuzu Dmax, thanks mate.
@@HighPeakAutos It won't have drinks spilt in it....'cos there's no cup holders they won't buy any! lol
A light pickup with only a 2 ton towing limit which not enough, other pickups tow 3.5 tons by now
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Hahaha Thank you!
Great work mate. Love how completely miserable you are.
Bandi Coot 😂 Cheers
Yep. He takes it to a new level doesn't he. Great Wall is one of the largest vehicle manufacturers in the world and he didn't know that? They produced and sold over 1 million vehicles worldwide in 2016. Lastly, if a vehicle doesn't appear to fit into his narrow functional requirements, he bags it. One of the worst reviews I have seen in some time. 🤔
@@53glowe Give the guy a break. Great Wall is a big player in China and Asia, but it's still largely unknown in Europe and the US. It does not matter how many units a manufacturer has sold if those units have not made it your way: You won't know it exists.
GWM has been an established brand here in South Africa. The Steed is based on the Isuzu Rodeo you mentioned The 3rd, 4th and 5th generation Isuzu Dmax pickups were all used as the base for various Chinese brands such as Foton, JMC etc. The GWM Hover or H5 SUV is an old Isuzu Axiom from 2001-2002. GWM have sold a number of pick up trucks or bakkies as they known here in SA but are still a minor player, compared to Hilux and Ranger sales.
In SA its also a value purchase and they are very popular with construction and agricultural businesses.
Bahahahahaha
I had an Isuzu for a while and you're right, the ride is floaty, but I actually enjoyed it! Anyhow, more interesting is that the GWM Steed is actually based on that exact Dmax. They share a chassis and much of the interior... excellent video, as always.
Try the lsm /lsu new models
I have a 2017 lsm and is a reliable rig
I’m in Australia and I have a Steed. This review is spot on. The cup holder comment is so accurate. Ultimately it’s a good ute and this channel is on the ball
Thanks
My Australian version has 4 drink holders
Clarkson wrote a great article on double cabs explaining how the BiK tax rates on them were the big attraction and finished by saying "if you are an accountant you are probably nursing a semi at this point"
Haha that sounds like something he'd say :)
Who's Clarkson?
@@norwegianzound Just some farmer bloke. 🙂
Looks like a watcher of that guy
Fantastic pickup for the money we have had our dealer maintained chrome edition for 5 years and has not needed anything- unbelievable reliability- wish the same could be said of my brand new m340d bmw !!!! This truck is basic but comfortable and I agree 100% with your comments / great review- such a massive Shame they pulled out of the. Uk - but who could blame them - euro 6 - Australia and South Africa selling thousands and the home market- maybe one day they will come back with their first all electric pick up - unbelievable vehicles
I have worked most of my life in construction plant sales and forestry, I would be totally lost without a double cab pick up truck, it gives me a balanced combination of decent on road drive, good off road drive, load carrying space, 3500kg towing capacity and room for 4-5 people on a short journey, OK fuel consumption is normally just under 30mpg irrespective of what the manufacturers claim, presently I have a Ford Ranger double cab 2.2L 6-speed Auto Limited spec, had several Nissan Navaras before but this is probably the best pick up truck I've had, wonderful chassis when pushed hard - yes I can drive a 4x4 quite fast and not crash.
The Great Wall pick up, well its OK for a lifestyle truck but its too flimsy to last in my world.
So you have a Ranger and have had several Navaras. You don't say you've owned, driven or even touched a Great Wall. How do you conclude they're flimsy?
A very fair and unbiased review
Thank u for your honesty
mohammed ali Thanks!
First video i have seen of yours.
As an Aussie living in Australia.
I love your no bs straight forward financially conscious review.
Great review mate
I have 2014 one
I use it on the farm its not that bad
Abdullah Almontashri Do you use it as a scarecrow?
How’s it doing now. Looking at buying a 2014 or newer
another fair honest review and food for thought if you are in the market for a pickup and i agree why pay more
I totally agree.✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔
Thank you! 👍
Paying for badge haha
Very articulate and down to earth review and clearly this guy knows his trade 👌
jerry obrien Thank you!
We've had Great Wall vehicles here in Australia for some time. You don't see a lot of them - probably about as often as the Indian manufactured Mahindra. My main concern with such vehicles would be how safe they are in a crash. Really enjoying your reviews. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for the comments. You don't see many of them over here either, but they're such good value for money
4.5k already. that shows how good these videos are. well done.
Thank you! Got more on the way :)
I live in South Africa and have had a Steed 5 - 4x4 for 6 yrs, been to Namibia/Angola/Zambia/Botswana most of the time on gravel roads, i had a few problems under our 3 year warranty but for the remaining 3years have not spent one cent on the vehicle except for normal service items, not the best pickup on the market but for the price you pay nothing to beat it, will keep it till it falls to pieces, so handy to throw all your garden rubbish in and not bother about scratching it, as a side note the engine was developed by Bosch with Bosch electronics, all drive train is Borg/warner. Good down to earth review
Thanks! Thats interesting to hear your thoughts on it after owning it for many years. I was impressed with it when you remember how cheap it is! Thanks for your comments. :)
I'm in South Africa and looking into buying this..…gravel roads🤦
Like your laid back style , funny being a vehicle trader for many years ...
I'd but a car from you '
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Like you I'm not a pick up fan, but it's amazing value. Bye the way I've only just found you're RUclips channel, and subscribed straight away. You're truly professional in front of camera. Top work 👏
Thanks!
Oh wow, didn't expect anyone to know these, have barely seen any of them and they started in the euro market from a factory in my home country (Bulgaria). In 2012, Great Wall Motors went into partnership with Litex Motors to produce these cars for the European market, started with 2k cars a year and went all the way up to 5k a year in 2017... and then Litex motors bankrupted xD. Great Wall cars were supposed to be a big hit in eastern Europe due to the quite low manufacturing cost, the only rival at their price point was Dacia. Keep in mind that the average age of cars on the road in eastern Europe is like 15 years, less than 3-5 year old cars are about as rare as supercars in UK... You see some in big cities, but that's about it. However, initial reviews of Great Wall cars were quite bad. I remember an early Bulgarian review saying you should also buy a gas mask with your Steed, as some exhaust fumes somehow get into the cabin xD. Also, we were baffled why they started with the Steed (a pickup) and marketed it heavily. Pickups are super rare in eastern Europe - predominantly narrow streets and not enough parking spaces, so it can be a tight fit. Plus, economy is important here as fuel ain't cheap (compared to our incomes). For example, minimum salary in Bulgaria is 325 Euro, average is about 500-900 depending on whether you live in a big or small city, while 1L of petrol costs about 1.1 Euro. Even if you can afford it and need a lot of space, judging by what I see on the streets, apparently 99.9% of people prefer to get a ~10 year old crossover or SUV instead of a new Great Wall steed... or any other pickup. I travel to rural places in the mountains for holidays and pickups aren't popular even there. I think the closest place with plenty of pickups is Crete (the greek island), it's full of Toyota Pickups, but I doubt they'll enjoy Great Wall's reliability record xD.
PS Great Wall also makes buses, we have quite a few of them in our public transport fleets.
Putting a bag of fertiliser, bale of hay etc, ton bag of sand etc is very easy in a pickup. More for farmers and forestry.
My daily driver is a 2012 Ram 1500, 4.7 V8, standard cab, 8 foot bed. It is a stripped down vehicle which I use for my business.
I love my truck. It’s handsome, comfortable, powerful, surprisingly luxurious, for a vehicle with vinyl on the seats and rubber on the floor, gets about 23 mpg on the highway, and has been more reliable than my ‘07 Honda Fit.
My truck is great for the US and Canada. It’s part of the rural culture here, and is designed for our infrastructure and landscape. It would be out of place in the UK or Europe.
Having said that, neither should such a vehicle be turned into a luxed-out, suburban family hauler, as they are here in the states. Those trucks can retail for 75,000 dollars, and that’s for a 2wd, 1500, light duty pick up. That is beyond absurd for the average family, unless they own a farm or ranch...but people here buy them like they’re going out of style.
I actually had to special order a work truck. The dealership had 50 Rams on their lot at the time, and all of them were the afore-mentioned luxe trucks. I thought it was kind of nuts.
Good to see a review of one of these without the snobbery of “it’s not a hilux”
Good report, unflattering, honest, factual and no bullshit. Have you lived in Australia or New Zealand? I'm impressed and incidentally, I've owned 2 Great Wall vehicles and confirm everything you've said.
Thanks for watching. Nope, never even been
Great Wall has been for sale here in New Zealand for a few years, but I have never known anyone who has had or used one, or seen one reviewed. UTEs VERY popular here, as you would expect though. resale woeful.
Shane Pleasance You rarely see Great Walls here. I was quite impressed with this one especially when you consider the saving. I’m surprised UTEs never became popular over here, it would be a better option than driving a huge pick up truck around
@@HighPeakAutos leasing this steed might be the best business option.
Had a mate drove a Great Wall for two years in Chch, sorry Christchurch NZ. Cheap to buy, run but a bit of a hit on sale - what you would expect. Would have kept longer but found ride on long trips, not as good as the unreliable Hilux he sold it for. Bought a Amarok after that, not the economy he thought (again on the long trips) now like many others bought a Ranger. Fwiw, not particularly brand loyal tho likes the Ranger and would have another, buys what seems best every 2-3 years, his only car, does long trips.
There’s no Great Walls in the USA because of safety.
ironically the Isuzu you mentioned has the same wings - GWM purchased the dies for that Isuzu model
Subscribed. You could have done script writing for the old top gear team. Witty and deadpan delivery.
Thanks for subscribing! Thanks for your comments :)
I've got one from 2009 in Australia still running never a major issue new catalytic converter was probably the biggest expense since new. But she is rusting now just replaced bonnet and 2 doors and now looking new
Good going
Great Wall sell under a different brand called HAVAL,a fleet of offroaders,starting with H.Tucson size,going up...to the size of Toyota Landcruiser.It's been selling in Australia/Newzealand, South africa,Russia...much cheaper than the Japanees and loaded with 'toys'
I'd like to see the expression of someone when I say "I've got a brand new great wall mate"
Yet another great video from a fantastic channel , thanks for introducing me to a brand I'd never heard of
Thanks for watching :)
Love this guys , english dry sense of humour !
Max S Thanks 👍🏻
Seems to me that you make a good case for just a general workhorse vehicle for those of us that would like a 4x4 that isnt nasty and ott like a RangeBloater or a Disco.. or some other overpriced 4x4 that all ( also ) look the same.. this is the price of a small hatchback!! for those who want a tough 4x4 with loads of space and a decent spec for throwing camping gear, pushbikes, kids and shopping into, without worrying about your shiny Chelsea Tractor getting trashed, this is absolutely perfect..love it, and given that id never heard of it and ive now seen low mileage examples going for the price of a sililar age Clio, i think you may have found me the perfect car.. Nice one!!
Doing very well in South Africa amongst businesses and some farmers (non-brand snobs). Together with Mahindra pick-up trucks they are the best priced. Their Haval SUV's have also taken off here and sell like hot cakes.
I know people will say that it was the base model without airbags or ABS that scored zero in Global NCAP ratings, but they said they doubted even airbags would have increased the rating. They certainly expected better performance from it without those feature. Maybe that's why Great Wall no longer sell new cars in the UK.
You should have a programme on the TV, brilliant 🤩
We buy more double cabs in South Africa than VW polo’s. The Amarok 3.0 is great. We have a Triton “L200” which works hard and will outlast pretty much any defender.
I think the most important question about those makes of cars has to be “would you want to crush in them?”
I like you don’t get pics-ups. What are they good for ? Can’t even carry a set of steps.
Great reviews, your a natural.
Pickup trucks are totally lost on me as well, I work on an estate where where there are several, all different makes and models, and all I ever see is people having to empty them completely to get at something buried in the back. Also like you say, can't even fit a set of steps in there, all their crap gets tied to the roof rack.
My bosses son for example, the family who own the estate are worth an absolute fortune, lovely people, could go out and buy a Porsche if he wanted, went and bought a ford ranger, simply because his mate on site has one.
I will never understand these people.
Youre a good salesman, i want one, and i havent got any money or business 😅😂
Hahaa
I’ve got the 2011 Great Wall v200 in Australia and only thing I can fault is the sensitive suspension being it’s leaf springs in the back and torsion bars on the front.. may not have the best power for the 2.0l turbo diesel but still goes well off-road
PLEASE PLEASE WILL YOU STOP MAKING VIDEOS LIKE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We as viewers are not accustomed to watching a decent/excellent / well presented and most of all honest review from a You tuber that doesn't shout at you, tell you how much money they have, give you a 0-60 mph and constantly break the speed limit whilst doing so etc etc. Please stop it and get a grip man. 😁😁😁😁 Do hope that was a dam good telling off from one of your loyal followers.
Thank you! I really appreciate your support! I'll keep doing the same if thats what's working. I hope it doesn't come across as boring, but I think it's all about the cars and sharing my opinion, rather than me trying to sell you a product, or entice you with clickbait titles and vulgar displays of wealth.
Agree, gettin tired of this guys highly informative presenting and seemingly sound buying advice. This man obviously has no conflict of interest or hidden agenda's.
.....bit drawn out at times, but Simple to watch, relatable and exactly what a normal person wants. Not a "youtuber"
🤣🤣 he needs a good telling off. Too much of a good job. I've become a loyal follower because he speaks the truth. Which is a rare of hen's teeth or as I like to say donkeys horns 🤣
@@tendainyambo7623 👌👌👌
I was looking into buying this, then I noticed this on the UK website.
Greatwall sales now ceased across Europe
Sales of Greatwall motor cars have now ceased across Europe. However, we wish to reassure Greatwall owners that all after sales services will continue unaffected. Therefore, the supply of spare parts will continue, and warranty work and servicing will be carried out at our official UK dealer network.
Who makes the engines for Great Wall?
The 2.4 four-cylinder petrol engine is a joint venture engine widely used in China and originally bought under licence from Mitsubishi. The diesel in the Great Wall is the maker's first common rail turbo diesel - some of the development was done with Bosch in Australia.24 Aug 2011
Great review. Just looked at their website after watching this and it seems they’ve pulled out of the U.K market completely now.
Never buy ANYTHING "made in China" the only thing they export that last longer than a couple of weeks is Covid.
@@wyattfamily8997 Okay Tory. Chinese autos are actually becoming pretty common now - MG are semi-popular, not to mention how many other car brands are Chinese owned (Geely are pretty massive).
I'm no fan of China or the PRC, shouldn't even need to state that to defend a pretty trivial thing.
@@wyattfamily8997 maybe your right just think about all the iPods, IPhones, iPads etc not to mention over 90 % of chips used around the world....
Specsavers are looking for somebody like you what do you call them in The seeds of The doors looks like cup holders to me
I personally drove the single cab steed 5 on the harsh South African
terrain , 80kms new to 149000kms
I loved every minute of that truck.
I hate negative reviews because I personally loved the Gwm
I think they're great value for money
These things would make perfect council vehicles with the crew cab and lockable back for tools. Would save some money... edit maintenance would be the issue as that cambelt could need changing alot given its pitiful 45k mile interval.
Yeah thats right
Chinese cars are wonderful! How could anyone not love things like the Lamb Roller Discoverer, Strange Dover Sport, Walksvogen Dolph, Auzi PP...legends, one and all.
Hahaha yes exactly. They're all poster cars on my bedroom wall
They make your iPhones too, pal:) and what was the last decently designed and manufactured product in England? I don’t think the term “cheap Chinese tat” applies these days. Much like cheap tat Skoda. It’s just not the case anymore:)
@@guinnessharvey4476 They don't make them, they manufacture under strict controls on every aspect of materials and output by the actual makers (eg Apple). The problem with Chinese makers is cost-cutting in materials wherever they can. This has a profound effect on durability and longevity of the kind that doesn't even enter the head of western consumers. A perfect and just singular example of this is the break down of intake tube and manifold plastics after only 12 months in some Chinese cars. The kind of deterioration and splitting we see after 15-25 years in Japanese or German cars. When you see it you realise the cultural differences that form the basis of their distinct version of capitalism.
@@DiscoFang it’s not just about the poor quality of their vehicles either … where I used to work (I’m retired now) we had our own foundry and made replacement parts for Stone Crushers and Industrial Wheelabrator Type Shotblasting Machines … the parts we made were all the internal wear plates and the crusher hammers … they had to be high quality and very hard wearing due to the nature of the work … the Chinese also make these items (copied from the original) and they sell them around half the price of uk made parts … but they’re crap inferior products poorly made and full of blowholes… but try telling that to your customers …. All they look at is the price !!
They think that because it looks the same it is the same and at half the price it must be a bargain … but they don’t wear the same and the parts need to be replaced more frequently ….
Worst comments I've ever seen
Never heard of it, but yes, I now want one
Because pickups are handier than a van for people who live/work in a rural area because their off road capable and carry a heavier load than suv and they are tougher. Like you would take a Peugeot partner down a rough muddy dirt track to where you need to go
Top review as ever... no BS and you always come out with great metaphors... top man ( and you’re a car dealer ! ) 😂
SiJRa 😂I love a good metaphor. I find it’s the best way of describing a vehicle. Thanks for watching 😉
Just found your video. I live in Australia and the great wall is quite popular down here. I have the new Steed and totally agree with your video. Why pay more for less.
I've just seen a 2012 model in Melbourne for $6k that I'm thinking about buying.
duel cab ute {aussie for pick up truck] are big here maybe because tradies like to have a work car that they can take off road on a weekend
I got a great wall v240
it's alright, I recommend getting a diesel turbo than a normal petrol.
not bad for its price
Pick ups make no sense over here but I love them in the US. They are so versatile. You can throw a snow plough on the front, they have high ground clearance, most are four wheel drive (all helpful as the majority of Americans live a bit off the street down driveways that get muddy and wet in winter), I've thrown everything from a wardrobe to a V8 in the back. We have panel vans (transits and what not), America has pick up trucks.
I kind of agree. They work in some markets, like the US, Africa, Asia etc.. but don't make much sense here :)
Looks like it was based off the previous generation Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon. Was also sold as an Isuzu.
Just an idea maybe some shite in the back of it might make a difference in the way it handles
Matt great wall cars have stopped selling cars in europe .but warranty and servicing continue
You deserved a like and subscribe when you said take a trip to Barbados 🇧🇧 with the rest of the money… my home
Very nice. I love Barbados
Love the dialogue :)
What a great advertisement for where you live! It's stunning!! Where do you live and drive?
Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks! I'm on the border between Cheshire and Derbyshire. Nice part of the world
It really is a beautiful area. It’s reminiscent of the landscape in rural Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
My mother’s side of the family originated in nearby Stockport.
I’ve added High Peak to my bucket list, of places I’d like to visit in the U.K.
Not checked this..... but a salesman once told me that you can trace most of the parts to Japanese and European vehicles, that Great Wall have literally copied..... such as, he said the headlights were a direct copy from a recent Golf ? The dashboard is from a rival pickup and the steering wheel from another....
All good though..... as you say, as good as any other for half the money 🙂
I have 2 Mitsubishi Tritons they are strong and reliable good for farm tracks and can carry 1 ton in weight they are auto box and have good specs I use them daily we don't have ford Transit or great wall in Thailand
Everyone drives them (Utes) here in Australia
Best car reviews around. Well done Matt, let's have more.
Thanks
I have to agree with you, Pick Up trucks just don't make any sense in the UK, none whatsoever. If you need to haul loads of stuff around, buy a Transit for goodness sake. Excellent review too.
I agree!
Despite the price, warranty and proven reliability you struggle to give them away here in Australia.
I have the new one great wall steed turbo diesel 4wd no problems great to drive great on fuel heated front seats. I have lifted mine up 2" looks good. I installed reverse camera. You would think new would have this safety Feature
How’s it doing a year later. Would really appreciate some thoughts as I’m considering getting one
Currently looking for cheap Ute for fishing, the cheapest I can found in NZ is 9years old done 351K on clock, current bids on trademe is $3250. Thinking of value for money, way much better thanToyota, both new, GW cost you 29K here in NZ, 9 years later resale for 4K? Lost 25k, New Toyota Hilux 60k+ , 9 years later with same k’s, resale max 20k? Lost more than 40k!
ok you've got me thinking. I've seen these 3 utes online for sale. A 1994 Mazda Ute with 10,000km or 2012 Great Wall ute with 100,000km or 2002 Toyota Hilux ute with over 200,000km? All for a similar price. Wanting to use for light ute duties and maybe light towing.
Aspiring Aspie They’re such good value for money. For light work and light towing the Great Wall will be perfect
Buy the Mazda, the other 2 are close to use by date.
Amazingly cheap vehicle to survive the impending Zombie Apocalypse in. :)
I have driven pick-ups in Australia and South America and I agree they are pretty crude. However if you want a rugged, reasonably cheap workhorse that can survive being driven on dirt roads for thousands of kms then they are a good bet. More robust than a normal car but much cheaper and simpler than a full on 4WD or SUV.
One big downer with the Great Wall is that it doesn't have a very good safety rating which has really stifled sales.
What a great review fella no shit no nonsense just a frriginn great review well done !!!!!!!!!!!!! I just love folk that cut the shit out of what they say !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to admit I have never heard of these until now. I saw a great example of a Ford Ranger for sale at my trusted dealers for almost exactly the same price. If I had the money I prefer the Escalade.. Even over a Lincoln Navigator. Just need a frigging step ladder to check the oil n water and a good lotto win for the maintenance, fuel & running costs. I happen to like it and the price is not too steep.
Very Popular here in South Africa ...Diesel way better than the 2.4 petrol which is a old Mitsubishi based engine with bad fuel economy.. The interior is identical to a 2007 Isuzu kb bakkie (s.a for pick up lol) good value for money pick up though .
2.5 ton tow... Other than that, another good review.
Double Cabs are loved in South Africa
Pick up tracks are very popular in Australia and popular ones don't depreciate quickly
Your fan from Tanzania of course we need those kinds of trucks in here because of huge and many bumps in highway and roads... Plus sticky mud we have. HAHAHA
Haha you will definitely benefit with a truck then
I get it in rural America... but i don't get trucks in the UK even in rural areas
It would apppear that imports have stopped in 2016, still a few dealers listing used examples. The reason given is post 2016 emmissions and no new diesel engine, I find this odd because the Steed is still sold new in other EU countries with a dual fuel lpg 2.4 petrol engine(125bhp) as well as a diesel.
Hahahaha. Your bit about not seeing the point of a truck was on point sir
Haha Cheers!
A mate got one of these pickups and it went well so his other mate got one too, after a light crash the damage was verry bad not verry strong at all , the other guy sold his cos he did not feel safe in it
I wonder how far they would get on the Canning Stock Route here in Australia, it's about 1,800 ks long, lots of sand hills, corrugated parts where it shakes your car to pieces, there are around 33 water wells along the track and no help in sight if you breakdown. I'l give it to water well no 2 before turning back before the unthinkable happens. The desert tracks here can make mince meat from poorly manufactured cars / utes / 4x4's and not a nice place to die because of an unreliable car. The Great Wall would be ok on normal roads.
Would love to know from actual users. Takes a certain amount of guts (and lunacy) to take a leap of faith into a new brand in the Australian environment.
Why would you go on Canning?.
The service intervals are very short
... That worries me, because all the extra money you would spend but then there is the Holliday to Barbados.............
Drives ok. Handles fine for a pickup. BUT, the underbody coverage is pants and beyond 6 years it’s likely to fall apart with the rust I see on our one. They have a habit of overheating if you tow with them as well - and it it’s gutless for towing as well. For a few bales on the farm or lightweight stuff then it’ll do as long as you look after it. Heated seats are good it has to be said.
I get the headroom, turning circle etc, but why does the gear change need to be notchy??
How are these things for parts.. They expensive like other pickups or because its Chinese its cheaper. I kinda want one but nervous because of the unknown badge
Lone Star Parts are pretty cheap.. that’s my experience of them anyway
There's a lot of reports of dream-runs in these... Just have to stay on top of your servicing.
The problem is there's a lot of 4x4 enthusiasts who like to trash talk anything that's not worth £30 K new or more..
The car reminds me of our '09 Isuzu Dmax. It has a very similar body lines and a similar interior
pierce yu its basically a copy
@@gb3639 yeah pretty much lmao
Of course, most probably the engine is not made in conjunction with Bosch, the stability control comes from Bosch, which is common on most cars.
Thanks for the review Ronan Keating.
You're welcome
I agree with every thing you say here.They were selling these pickups in Israel for a short time with mechanics lined up to service them...i don't know what happened,you don't see them (new ones) any more.The only brand from China is MG and even they are not a'great succes'
Another no bullshit review ,excellent !!
Thanks!
You are right in that no one knows what pick ups are useful for. If you are a townie. If you live in the country then you don’t understand how people live without a dirty, bouncy, grotty stinking pickup truck that looks like it could give you an infection just by sitting in it.
Enjoyable review. The reason this truck is so good is that its virtually identical to the 2004 Isuzu , on which it is based. The design, engineering and dash are the same. Great Wall have however now pulled out of the UK .
How much do you get for driving around Peak District every day!
Pick ups will either fit with someone or they wont. Because of their unique design they have to be able to jump through quite a few hoops to qualify as a daily driver and so for most wont fit this role very well. Thats why so many have had multiple short term owners. But if you are lucky enough to have the money and space for a second vehicle for hobbies then a pick up can be useful.
But also consider that the design is improving all the time and in my view the very latest and best just might make a good alternative for the outdoorsy family over the more traditional SUV you see parked in the national trust car park.
Why does the front look exactly like a 2006 VW Polo that ate too many pies?
Another good video, thansk for the advice on the Range Rover, despite the lack off heater controls Im going in to order a new one tomorrow. It was interstng to hear your opinion on the Great Wall. I have often wondered what they were like, they were quite popular here in NZ the land of the Toyata Hilux, hovere I dont see as many as I did, I believe the Ford Ranger is the top selling Ute here. We have an Amarok which I find to be an excellent car, it is used exclusively as a second car, great on fuel drives great, and really handy for dirt bikes, surf boards etc.
Thanks! Good luck with your purchase. I love the look of the Amarok, but Ive never been a big VW fan
@@HighPeakAutos Buy an Amarok it may convert you, a lot more practical than the BMW! Enjoying your videos, keep it up.!
You are spot on! Used one of these type of pick-ups for one day's work - I'm a self employed electrician. Truly awful! Bruised my shins to black 'n'blue climbing in the back to reach tools. Steps don't fit and my FWD van is better on snow with winter tyres. Farmer's tow truck - nothing else.
Exactly! They're pointless unless you're using it on a farm. I'd rather have a transit
Fantastic review! It's a truck that is overlooked not now I like it too! Best regards to my friend
Thank you! :)