What a bunch of publicity/propaganda nonsense....They knew people were gonna poo-poo this so they built the publicity around it. Just another KTM/Gas/Gas/Husky @@Pereke69
@@mxracerguy lol yeah that was a mess. But that was at the beginning of the 4-stroke era in motocross, almost every manufacturer struggled in the beginning. And not to mention cannondale was a bicycle manufacturer.
Yes, a great team of developers and riders - but what was the result ? Obviously a single cylinder , looks like twin cam , and then ? Did you make any advances ? Have you got improved engine mapping ? Is it counter rotating ? Has it got a balancer ? Did you save any weight , if so , where ? Was cooling improved by clever methods ? Service intervals ? A reduced parts count ?, How many gears - 4, 5, 6 , 7 ? , alternator ouput ? , Reduced starter motor weight ? , Literally anything at all about the actual engineering results of everyones hard efforts.
I have hardly rode a dirt bike in the past 15 years. But this has been exciting to Follow. Looks like Triumph Got together a “A” team for this one! Good luck with the bike, I will definitely be following 👍🏻
Look at the current 250 ktm engine it is the exact same layout. They probably tweaked some internal specs, but no way did they develop a new engine from scratch.@@RailingRutsNailingSluts
Eric Buell was building a Competative 500 CC Two Stroke GP Bike .. Kenny Roberts had already built an Amazing 500 CC Two Stroke bike called the Proton then the AMA up and changed the rules allowing 1,000 CC Four Strokes to compete against 500 CC Two Strokes. Two strokes have a power valve on the exhaust port for better low end power.. 4 Strokes can use Variable cam timing.
@@jacobcurtis6849 You know nothing about it.. your predjuice should be left out - UNTIL someone rides it. Do you understand who these people are behind this bike? They have ridden the package. Obviously it will be good, they dont reinvent the wheels. Non of the cry babies in this comment section will be able to twist a 250f to its full potential anyway. Wtf do you want from it/ them? Literally making a bike, investing millions, bringing in some of the best riders and R&D - team managers around, and yet here you are crying. Once you have emperical evidence that the bike is not good enough your pet opinion is worth zero, come back in when you ridden the bike with some proper feedback. People literally have zero idea how hard it is to start a new projekt especially pre covid. Sit down and enjoy, Triumph should have some big cudos for even entering a world dominated by the other major brands.
@@mikebrown41182we want them to quit stalling and telling us what an amazing package they have built acting like it’s so much further along than it actually is. This bikes not going to see races or the public for another 5 years atleast
Scuuba- Hot Sauce & The goat knows what they talking about. I am certain this bike will be solid. And with years / racing coming along it will evolve. The engine looks really nice so far.
Scuba and yeses I are on the payroll they aren’t gonna tell you that it’s shit! Also Ricky wore berrick boots.. If you ever wore berrick boots then you will not trust a thing Ricky endorses ££££
@@martynclinton8092 Interesting comparsion, rickys boots to a well established company thats been producing bikes for age. Anyway do you have anything that can confirm what you just wrote? Or is it your own opinion. It is kinda obvious if scuba and the rest is going to enter Supecross with this bike as a team they want a product / bike that is capable of winning, or do you think they want to go race something they dont believe in? Ofc they are not going to say anything bad, that is buisness, but that does not always conflate with the product as they now promote must be bad. Until anyone swung their leg over the bike and raced it on the track, no one can say that it is bad you have to have emperical evidence, predjuice wont cut it. If you believe it will be bad. No problem, fine, be entitled to your own opinion. I completely disagree. Given the freedom they have and their knowledge how to aproach and tackle problems through all these years of racing and track testing and management i see absolutely no worries for Triumph, they will learn along the process, and their bike will be fine. As for your boot comparsion. Beerik boots won two major titles and they came from scratch making a boot with zero backrounds in mx.’ Triumph have experience in two wheels and four strokes, and people should know by now tyst the goat has never sugercoated anything, if he likes it or he need changes, he gets what he wants, the entire company be proactive. I look forward to it.
@kingGar27 yes I did mean the moto 2 engines, and yes it does look a lot like ktm engine. I'll be disappointed if they've re hashed a ktm engine instead of making their own
More opportunities for the racers is what the sport needs! Beta coming on board to this will help the less fortunate riders and privateers succeed and better themselves with a program more similar to the top dog of the sport!
“We have a range of motocross and a range of enduro motorcycles in development. The enduro motorcycles will be road registrable, but the motocross bikes will be pure off-road performance motorcycles,” revealed Chief Product Officer, Steve Sargent to MCN.
It’ll be well worth the wait, not to say I don’t want to see the complete motorcycle but as long as it kicks butt all good. You only get one chance to make a first impression!
@@kingGar27 You may be right. Ricky said the engine has its own identity and we have a really good base. He didn't say we started with a clean sheet of paper.
Ivan is incredibly smart and is probably one, if the not the best, in communicating rider feedback. Makes me wonder if they hired RC first and he demanded IT to be part of the team.
Let's all sit around the campfire and sing some songs.... You love me, I love you, we are just a big happy family.... Now the chorus! Now go drink your bud light with Ricky the loser!
Can't wait for episode two thousand five hundred and twenty six.........when they reveal the clutch plates 👍 And if you are lucky enough you might even get a quick glimpse of the sump plug.
Agreed, I'd have to assume Triumph is looking for the most significant impression and development area invesment wise that they can have an impact on in the dirt scene to kickstart their entry into the segment, fingers crossed the bike and company backing is big enough to support a evolution of a line of enduro and mx bikes in kind that people actually want to buy. Makes sense they would enter MX first as its the biggest platform for them to gain market respect, support R&D and grow the their dirt line.
Big QUALITATIVE claims like impressive across the curve - I doubt there's any variable cam timing to make this motor specifically remarkable againt the sea of other modern, iteratively designed and proven market leaders so unless you have the guts to actually state an engine weight and show a flywheel power/torque curve or comment of specific design features optimsed/unique to triumph at the component level - cut the nonsense market crap. KTM have the guts to state their EXC500 engine assembly weight, actually advertise unique design features and you tought marketing nonsense after such a long wait. Common guys.
They’re doing this because they likely got info telling them the general population of the motocrosser does not understand objective facts and instead are using subjective claims to pump up the image.. I agree it’s extremely annoying.
Man for four strokes i like 250 limiters more. And that thing sounds amazing! Even in the final test video! And they did a great job filming the bike without giving away how it looks completely!
I have friends that rode enduros on Triumphs I guess in the 60’s and 70’s but I never saw any. I am really looking forward to seeing the bike. I think the video said RC will be riding it Sept 5. Fun times for sure. If only Suzuki could get there $hit back together.
Sooo are they going 450 or 250 for the initial motor focus? If aiming at being competitive in racing, what class are they aiming at first? 450 probably has higher sales, 250 is possibly an easier class to enter. So what is it? Not to mention that at home the 350 seems to be king in the 4 strokes.
I don't know, maybe I'm blind, but this engine looks a lot like an engine I know for a few years, at about 1:41 in the video... I see a few small changes in the head section but the rest is quite similar to what I think I know... And yeah, that's a great performing engine indeed 😇
Call me a skeptic, but I can't help but wonder why the shots of the engine are so dark. Are they trying to hide something? In one of the shots toward the end you can see a hose clamp that looks too long. Do they not have hose clamps the right length? The finish on the internal engine components looks a little rough too. That said... I'm glad to see Triumph jumping into the market. I hope the bikes are great and I'm just overthinking the video.
Hi all. I notice a plastic idler gear in the photos of the motor, is that the oil pump drive? I hope this is made of better material than the KTM/husqvarna ones that killed hundreds of engines. Mine died with less than 100hrs on the motor and with it being maintained spot on,KTM modified the part without giving a recall which would have saved so much money for owners.I believe KTM for 2024 are getting rid of the plastic gear? Is that a prototype part or full production part? Good luck with this project it will be great to see your brand racing back on the dirt.
Personally, after my experience with a 2001 955 Sprint ST sport tourer, I will NEVER buy another Triumph motorcycle. 1) From day 1, the exhaust was incredibly hot, actually burning thru the lower right side fairing. At the first post purchase service including valve lash adj. and flashing an updated engine map they found ALL exhaust valve clearance at less than minimum. Several attempts were made to update the engine map but the installed Sagen computer would not allow communication with the factory diagnostic tool. 2) Anytime ridden more than 65 mph, the right side exhaust temps were so hot, the bike was uncomfortable to ride. Engine coolant temps were perfect but...there was no doubt the exhaust temps were very high, suggesting anything beyond 6,000 rpm the engine was going very, very lean. Wrapping the entire exhaust with heat resistant header material did little to prevent the uncomfortably high temps burning my right leg. Often I'd be seen standing on the pegs to relieve the discomfort. 3) A local Ducati/Apprilia shop that does a lot of race prep work confirmed the upper rpm/lean AFR with their 4 gas exhaust analyzer. Their attempts to communicate with the ECU also failed. 4) At the local Triumph dealer hopefully prepping for an Iron Butt Riders 'Butt Burner 1000', the valve lash was non existent, confirming the valves had "tulipped" so deeply in the valve seats because of the high combustion temps. Their diagnostic tool could not communicate with the ECU. They also took notice of a clattering sound on the left side alternator drive. It was easy to read from the mechanics body language and comments they know what was happening, and the cause. Once home, with the alternator and rubber cush drive removed, found that ALL but 7 ball bearings for the alt. drive were missing. The only place for them to go is into the engine sump/transmission gears. 5) Opposite side, with the clutch removed, found most of the needle bearings missing, again the only place they could go was the engine oil sump and transmission gears. Removing the oil pan, found most but not all of the missing ball and needle bearings. Meaning the unaccounted for ball/needle bearings were floating around in the transmission somewhere?? The bearing assembly pockets are only accessible from the inside of the engine cases. Replacement requires engine R/R, cases split in order to do this. Is this the owners responsibility to do this with the attendant labor costs on a 1 year old motorcycle??? 6) Numerous attempts to contact via email, US mail and phone calls to talk with Triumph NA warranty dept. and executive officers went unanswered. 7) The Ducati/Triumph Orange county CA, service manager told me "If you bring that engine, set it on my desk with a blank check, I will not touch it." The local San Diego dealer told me they'd give $1.000 as a trade in for another Sprint ST. Barely a year old, pristine condition, the best they'd do is the $1K trade in value for a like model with possibility of the same problems again. 8) Predicted cost to repair this...new cyl. head, new cross shaft trans/clutch/ alternator drive and new ECU would exceed the total value of the motorcycle. Will I ever buy another Triumph motorcycle??? Never. I learned the dealerships and the importer will not support their product, refuse to help in any way.
Ballsy, but you gotta love anyone taking a chance like this these days! Kind of harkens back to the beginning of MX when many more manufacturers were making race bikes.
Next week we get to see the front brake lever. Can't wait.
LMFAO! your sarcasm had me rolling on the floor xD
hahahahahaha
What a bunch of publicity/propaganda nonsense....They knew people were gonna poo-poo this so they built the publicity around it. Just another KTM/Gas/Gas/Husky @@Pereke69
ruclips.net/video/Hb8-saClys4/видео.html
Lets talk about the engine without really talking about the engine. Nailed it.
RC loves his voice
It sounds like when you open the throttle you get 'perfection' at every RPM, including the overrev.
this is an unveiling not an info. can you not read?
Be patient my friend you will see when they are ready. This is always how big corps roll out new products
Yep.
I don't see too many companies taking chances like this these days. Whoever decided to do this, congrats.
Ducati is coming as well apparently... we'll see if rumors are real
Beta is racing SX 2024 as well. Should be interesting
@@batmikipig I'll believe that when I see it in showrooms, but we will see.
I remember when Cannondale tried. That didn't go so well.
@@mxracerguy lol yeah that was a mess. But that was at the beginning of the 4-stroke era in motocross, almost every manufacturer struggled in the beginning. And not to mention cannondale was a bicycle manufacturer.
I know no more about the engine than I did before watching this
They probably heard you're a blabbermouth that would tell everyone about it anyway
Mad respect to Triumph for heading in this direction, this is your time now, lets make this next generation be the Triumph generation.
Yes, a great team of developers and riders - but what was the result ? Obviously a single cylinder , looks like twin cam , and then ? Did you make any advances ? Have you got improved engine mapping ? Is it counter rotating ? Has it got a balancer ? Did you save any weight , if so , where ? Was cooling improved by clever methods ? Service intervals ? A reduced parts count ?, How many gears - 4, 5, 6 , 7 ? , alternator ouput ? , Reduced starter motor weight ? , Literally anything at all about the actual engineering results of everyones hard efforts.
It is counter rotating
All fair questions. Bikers want to know the details.
Blah, blah , blah! Ride the freaking thing already, that is the real test!
Sounds like it can go braaaap.
When Honda came out with the CRF250L there wasn't much talk about it. Later I read that the engine had lots of innovation and patents.
This engine looks like a 1:1 copy from the KTM engines …
Holy crap, it has 2 wheels and an engine, must be a ktm copy.....🖕
@@dberry759no but he’s right it’s literally a Ktm engine the frame is different but the engine is the same
This was such a waste of time. Very little about the engine itself. Just the team telling each other how awesome they all are.
Yeah, back to the koenigsegg videos.
Then don’t buy one.
Its not about that. Its just that this video doesnt tell anything yet. Fully commercial thing.
@@motodude46then buy 5.
@@Tommy-B.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have hardly rode a dirt bike in the past 15 years. But this has been exciting to Follow. Looks like Triumph Got together a “A” team for this one! Good luck with the bike, I will definitely be following 👍🏻
It looks almost exactly like a KTM engine with small differences.
But it's not.
Look at the current 250 ktm engine it is the exact same layout. They probably tweaked some internal specs, but no way did they develop a new engine from scratch.@@RailingRutsNailingSluts
Exactly. Even the cheap plastic oil pump ist the same. look at 0:53.
Was hoping for some specs, but I’m still all over this new bike. Love how they’re revealing it part by part, well done Triumph!
Eric Buell was building a Competative 500 CC Two Stroke GP Bike .. Kenny Roberts had already built an Amazing 500 CC Two Stroke bike called the Proton then the AMA up and changed the rules allowing 1,000 CC Four Strokes to compete against 500 CC Two Strokes.
Two strokes have a power valve on the exhaust port for better low end power.. 4 Strokes can use Variable cam timing.
RC is a motocross icon great personality.greets from greece❤
This bike better be as good as they all think it is, otherwise they will really regret dropping in this manner.
It won't be
Gonna be just another also ran like Beta
It'll be the new boutique bike like KTM use to be
@@jacobcurtis6849 You know nothing about it.. your predjuice should be left out - UNTIL someone rides it. Do you understand who these people are behind this bike? They have ridden the package. Obviously it will be good, they dont reinvent the wheels.
Non of the cry babies in this comment section will be able to twist a 250f to its full potential anyway.
Wtf do you want from it/ them? Literally making a bike, investing millions, bringing in some of the best riders and R&D - team managers around, and yet here you are crying.
Once you have emperical evidence that the bike is not good enough your pet opinion is worth zero, come back in when you ridden the bike with some proper feedback.
People literally have zero idea how hard it is to start a new projekt especially pre covid.
Sit down and enjoy, Triumph should have some big cudos for even entering a world dominated by the other major brands.
@@mikebrown41182we want them to quit stalling and telling us what an amazing package they have built acting like it’s so much further along than it actually is. This bikes not going to see races or the public for another 5 years atleast
@@jacobcurtis6849look where ktm is now??
@@mikebrown41182Thanx Mike you are very correct. They have the balls bottom line. Someone is going to showcase this engine in competitive racing.
Very exciting to follow this process, good luck Triumph. Dig in hard boys , the Japanese and Austrians have a bit of experience in this space.
What about the French, Spanish, Swedish, and Italians...?
Not to mention, etc etc, etc...
Scuuba- Hot Sauce & The goat knows what they talking about. I am certain this bike will be solid. And with years / racing coming along it will evolve. The engine looks really nice so far.
Scuba and yeses I are on the payroll they aren’t gonna tell you that it’s shit!
Also Ricky wore berrick boots..
If you ever wore berrick boots then you will not trust a thing Ricky endorses
££££
@@martynclinton8092 Interesting comparsion, rickys boots to a well established company thats been producing bikes for age.
Anyway do you have anything that can confirm what you just wrote? Or is it your own opinion. It is kinda obvious if scuba and the rest is going to enter Supecross with this bike as a team they want a product / bike that is capable of winning, or do you think they want to go race something they dont believe in?
Ofc they are not going to say anything bad, that is buisness, but that does not always conflate with the product as they now promote must be bad.
Until anyone swung their leg over the bike and raced it on the track, no one can say that it is bad you have to have emperical evidence, predjuice wont cut it.
If you believe it will be bad. No problem, fine, be entitled to your own opinion. I completely disagree. Given the freedom they have and their knowledge how to aproach and tackle problems through all these years of racing and track testing and management i see absolutely no worries for Triumph, they will learn along the process, and their bike will be fine.
As for your boot comparsion.
Beerik boots won two major titles and they came from scratch making a boot with zero backrounds in mx.’ Triumph have experience in two wheels and four strokes, and people should know by now tyst the goat has never sugercoated anything, if he likes it or he need changes, he gets what he wants, the entire company be proactive.
I look forward to it.
How to confess: We licensed the engine from KTM - without actually saying: We licensed the engine from KTM!
Fix the app - Sincerely: Everyone that's bought a modern Triumph motorcycle 😘
Episode 3 is just going to be Ricky talking about riding bikes and showing his highlight reel from 20 years ago, stay tuned for Episode 4!!
I think you will be surprised
Wtf
Waste of time didn’t learn shit
KTM engine?
Very similar.
This has been great to follow, if their road bikes/motogp engines are anything to go by it will be a great bike ❤
@robertmcfarland1816The three cylinder in the Moto2 bikes is a rebranded KTM? What three cylinder do KTM produce?
@robertmcfarland1816 what is?
I think you mean Moto2 :) Triumph don't make a MotoGP engine. And it does look a LOT like a KTM 250 SXF engine...
@kingGar27 yes I did mean the moto 2 engines, and yes it does look a lot like ktm engine. I'll be disappointed if they've re hashed a ktm engine instead of making their own
Made in India? Ktmhuskagas made in india factory ? Weight savings is a worry , plastic oil pump gears anyone 😮
More opportunities for the racers is what the sport needs! Beta coming on board to this will help the less fortunate riders and privateers succeed and better themselves with a program more similar to the top dog of the sport!
this initiative by Triumph is more serious than i imagined, the off-road market is only going to grow, with this excellent option, possibly...
hopefully they do an enduro and cross country model aswell.
I certainly expect so. I remember when Triumph announced the project, they teamed Ricky up with off-road legend Ivan Cervantes.
“We have a range of motocross and a range of enduro motorcycles in development. The enduro motorcycles will be road registrable, but the motocross bikes will be pure off-road performance motorcycles,” revealed Chief Product Officer, Steve Sargent to MCN.
It’ll be well worth the wait, not to say I don’t want to see the complete motorcycle but as long as it kicks butt all good. You only get one chance to make a first impression!
KTM 250 SX-F. Great engine.
Nope.
Looks identical. High reving. Not for everyone. Ricky said it has nice power down low, so maybe they've retuned the 250 SXF internals (?)
@@kingGar27 You may be right. Ricky said the engine has its own identity and we have a really good base. He didn't say we started with a clean sheet of paper.
Looking forward to finally see the bike
Been looking forward to this for years. Bring on Sept 5th
Old moto proverb comes to mind‼️The bullshit stops when the gate drops👀🇬🇧✌️🏁
I love that Ivan and Ricky are back working together. They really must have formed a fantastic friendship over at Team Suzuki.
Ivan is incredibly smart and is probably one, if the not the best, in communicating rider feedback. Makes me wonder if they hired RC first and he demanded IT to be part of the team.
Let's all sit around the campfire and sing some songs....
You love me, I love you, we are just a big happy family....
Now the chorus!
Now go drink your bud light with Ricky the loser!
@motoyamasnigglepuff8654 All those years in the girl scouts are starting to pay off. Congrats.
Pretty darn cool Triumph from us at TMW!
Come on stop the teasing and just show us the package 😮🤯🤑
It’s time for the 3rd video, let’s go! We can’t wait to see the bike!!
More Competition and more teams. Nothing but Great for the riders and the Sport. PERIOD!
That's how you suavely talk about an engine, without actually mentioning what the engine is. Brilliant!
Awesome news, cannot wait! 😊
Can't wait for episode two thousand five hundred and twenty six.........when they reveal the clutch plates 👍
And if you are lucky enough you might even get a quick glimpse of the sump plug.
This bike sounds like a winner. Believe the hype !
COME ON TRIUMPH WE NEED BOTH THE MOTOR-CROSS AND ENDURO ENGINES ..WATFORD ENGLAND UK GREAT BRITAIN
Agreed, I'd have to assume Triumph is looking for the most significant impression and development area invesment wise that they can have an impact on in the dirt scene to kickstart their entry into the segment, fingers crossed the bike and company backing is big enough to support a evolution of a line of enduro and mx bikes in kind that people actually want to buy. Makes sense they would enter MX first as its the biggest platform for them to gain market respect, support R&D and grow the their dirt line.
Big QUALITATIVE claims like impressive across the curve - I doubt there's any variable cam timing to make this motor specifically remarkable againt the sea of other modern, iteratively designed and proven market leaders so unless you have the guts to actually state an engine weight and show a flywheel power/torque curve or comment of specific design features optimsed/unique to triumph at the component level - cut the nonsense market crap. KTM have the guts to state their EXC500 engine assembly weight, actually advertise unique design features and you tought marketing nonsense after such a long wait. Common guys.
They’re doing this because they likely got info telling them the general population of the motocrosser does not understand objective facts and instead are using subjective claims to pump up the image.. I agree it’s extremely annoying.
Agree. Waste of a RUclips video. All that we can definitely conclude from this video is that the bike will, indeed, come with an engine!
@@kingGar27 and it has good parts in it! No clue what parts those are, how many gears etc.. nothing but they are good!
Looks ktm ish
Its a TRIUMPH and they don't mess with second rate designs. It will be great like those much loved 765 Moto 2 engines
These guys are just stalling for time that’s it.
HAven't seen this much hype about a dirtbike since the cannondale mx400 "bike of the year"
Beyond excited to see this go. excited for a 450 down the road.
Triumph marketing is about a good as Bud Lites 😂 just show us the damn bike already
Man for four strokes i like 250 limiters more. And that thing sounds amazing! Even in the final test video! And they did a great job filming the bike without giving away how it looks completely!
I would like to know more about the suspension components they will be going with.
All KYB. Basically the triple s fork and shock that have been in service since 2000s is what it looks like. With the. Triumph settings.
Is this April 1st?
I think it's August
Just love hearing these dudes say the same things 10X over. Not.
how about the parts availability?
2:09 so true! Can't ride just an engine without a bike.
Looks like a kTm engine..Cant waite the final product/bike. Thumbs up!
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Yep... just a few minor details differ from a ktm engine, looks like a lot of marketing circus for something that isn't new or created by Triumph.
Bobby did a great job with JA and Husky, he should be a very solid element along with Ivan and Ricky from a racing perspective.
Will be interesting to see what other bikes this power plant will be put in
That is damn near a ktm copy 😲
No? Assuming this is a 450 this would look closer to a 23 kx engine than a ktm.💀
It's a 250
How can you tell from just a few shots of the engine exterior and some internal parts laying on a bench?
@@gerry343 Triumph has said that they will start with a 250
Since when did KTM invent this engine??
PIONEER the way for on road bikes to go off road! ❤ it!
This is so awesome!!!
Biggest info here was steel clutch basket and of course hydro clutch.
Triumph should go into politics, nearly 5 minutes of talking and giving zero info. Just kissing each other's butt.
the new dirt bike it goes in looks truly amazing
Hope we get a 350 from Triumph…
Probably, their engine supplier has one 😁
How bout just a bike for starters
When do we get to see em
Thanks for the information Triumph. Exciting atuff in mx/sx these days
Why model it off the KTM?
Why is the sky blue??? No one knows
Where will these engines and bikes be manufactured - UK or Thailand or Brazil?
Probably India or Austria
I have friends that rode enduros on Triumphs I guess in the 60’s and 70’s but I never saw any. I am really looking forward to seeing the bike. I think the video said RC will be riding it Sept 5. Fun times for sure. If only Suzuki could get there $hit back together.
Great news so glad triumph have jumped into this class ..can we now have it in an enduro bike...
Today is september 5 ….
Sooo are they going 450 or 250 for the initial motor focus? If aiming at being competitive in racing, what class are they aiming at first? 450 probably has higher sales, 250 is possibly an easier class to enter. So what is it? Not to mention that at home the 350 seems to be king in the 4 strokes.
The size of that pipe, Im betting a 250 to begin with.
When is the final reveal?
I don't know, maybe I'm blind, but this engine looks a lot like an engine I know for a few years, at about 1:41 in the video... I see a few small changes in the head section but the rest is quite similar to what I think I know... And yeah, that's a great performing engine indeed 😇
If you say hat it looks familiar why don't you say which engine you're talking about?
@@PrimoStracciatellalol ikr. we got mr mysterious over here
@@PrimoStracciatella ktm engine dummy
Waiting for a 2-Stoke 🤔💥💥🏆
Looks like a 23 ktm engine to me 😂
Even the Oilpump is exactly the same cheap plastic Oilpump like in the ktm engine 😂 0:53
Even late to the video premiere
so where is the unveiling of the engine?
What is the BSFC for this engine?
1.59AM? You're joking right? You honestly thought....... that I wouldn't stay up to watch this.
Can't wait RC!
More waiting and wanting. im sure it will be worth it
Lol cool, they didn't tell us jack shit about the engine 😂
Even the oil screen looks KTM. Why change a proven formula? Looks good/interesting so far. Looking forward to the reveal and final specs.
Will there be something in the range of a supermoto?
Way to go,
Push it mo
did i see a ktm style engine oil screen filter?
Call me a skeptic, but I can't help but wonder why the shots of the engine are so dark. Are they trying to hide something? In one of the shots toward the end you can see a hose clamp that looks too long. Do they not have hose clamps the right length? The finish on the internal engine components looks a little rough too. That said... I'm glad to see Triumph jumping into the market. I hope the bikes are great and I'm just overthinking the video.
Parabéns Triumph !!!!
can't wait for the 500 or 525 enduro model, road legal British beast - gimme
Hopefully they make 2 strokes
We all know they have a completed bike. Just show it to us already.
Sounds like a great team
Is this engine fuel injected ??and also can you change the power plant in respect of settings to suit the track ,rider ect
Is a 450 Coming ?? Hope so
So, what was the point of this video?
Hi all. I notice a plastic idler gear in the photos of the motor, is that the oil pump drive? I hope this is made of better material than the KTM/husqvarna ones that killed hundreds of engines. Mine died with less than 100hrs on the motor and with it being maintained spot on,KTM modified the part without giving a recall which would have saved so much money for owners.I believe KTM for 2024 are getting rid of the plastic gear? Is that a prototype part or full production part?
Good luck with this project it will be great to see your brand racing back on the dirt.
Can the media team just hold all the fluff and share something tangible about the new bike?
BUt will the regulator rectifier go out? Chinese R/R?
Personally, after my experience with a 2001 955 Sprint ST sport tourer, I will NEVER buy another Triumph motorcycle.
1) From day 1, the exhaust was incredibly hot, actually burning thru the lower right side fairing. At the first post purchase service including valve lash adj. and flashing an updated engine map they found ALL exhaust valve clearance at less than minimum. Several attempts were made to update the engine map but the installed Sagen computer would not allow communication with the factory diagnostic tool.
2) Anytime ridden more than 65 mph, the right side exhaust temps were so hot, the bike was uncomfortable to ride. Engine coolant temps were perfect but...there was no doubt the exhaust temps were very high, suggesting anything beyond 6,000 rpm the engine was going very, very lean.
Wrapping the entire exhaust with heat resistant header material did little to prevent the uncomfortably high temps burning my right leg. Often I'd be seen standing on the pegs to relieve the discomfort.
3) A local Ducati/Apprilia shop that does a lot of race prep work confirmed the upper rpm/lean AFR with their 4 gas exhaust analyzer. Their attempts to communicate with the ECU also failed.
4) At the local Triumph dealer hopefully prepping for an Iron Butt Riders 'Butt Burner 1000', the valve lash was non existent, confirming the valves had "tulipped" so deeply in the valve seats because of the high combustion temps. Their diagnostic tool could not communicate with the ECU.
They also took notice of a clattering sound on the left side alternator drive. It was easy to read from the mechanics body language and comments they know what was happening, and the cause. Once home, with the alternator and rubber cush drive removed, found that ALL but 7 ball bearings for the alt. drive were missing. The only place for them to go is into the engine sump/transmission gears.
5) Opposite side, with the clutch removed, found most of the needle bearings missing, again the only place they could go was the engine oil sump and transmission gears. Removing the oil pan, found most but not all of the missing ball and needle bearings. Meaning the unaccounted for ball/needle bearings were floating around in the transmission somewhere??
The bearing assembly pockets are only accessible from the inside of the engine cases. Replacement requires engine R/R, cases split in order to do this. Is this the owners responsibility to do this with the attendant labor costs on a 1 year old motorcycle???
6) Numerous attempts to contact via email, US mail and phone calls to talk with Triumph NA warranty dept. and executive officers went unanswered.
7) The Ducati/Triumph Orange county CA, service manager told me "If you bring that engine, set it on my desk with a blank check, I will not touch it." The local San Diego dealer told me they'd give $1.000 as a trade in for another Sprint ST. Barely a year old, pristine condition, the best they'd do is the $1K trade in value for a like model with possibility of the same problems again.
8) Predicted cost to repair this...new cyl. head, new cross shaft trans/clutch/ alternator drive and new ECU would exceed the total value of the motorcycle.
Will I ever buy another Triumph motorcycle??? Never. I learned the dealerships and the importer will not support their product, refuse to help in any way.
Triumph have announced two new sponsors.....Rich Energy and Bud Light.
Ballsy, but you gotta love anyone taking a chance like this these days! Kind of harkens back to the beginning of MX when many more manufacturers were making race bikes.