MECHA MADNESS: That time Sonic turned into a robot. | SonicSpeedReading (Archie)
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Sonic gets roboticized and becomes the one, true MECHA SONIC!
Mecha Sonic vs Mecha Knuckles!
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I remember this cover from the museum in the Sonic Mega Collection. There were some great covers in the gallery, but this one stood out in particular. It was a special, after all.
Ditto.
right! made me wish I could read the comics
@@alicepenns1029 they were pretty good back in the day
I'm sure it was not intentional. But I like how Mecha Sonic's arms are made out of balls, which a lot of character designs on the Genesis did for parts that moved a lot. Just look at the arms and legs of the Death Egg Robot in Sonic 2 or the Vectorman series.
One of my favorite details about the design. Always reminded me of that egg capsule boss from flying battery and thought it really added to the overall look.
True.
B A l l s
I always wanted to read this comic after seeing scans of this version of Sonic from back in the day. There's just something so visually striking about the combination of blue and yellow armor that this design sports.
I remember snagging this out of a 50 cent bin as a kid when my buddies and I were looking for whatever Sonic comics we could find. Honestly that was the best issue I ever got out of a 50 cent bin
YOU ARE A MACHINE! So much content recently and I couldn’t appreciate ya more Nick. Toot toot
YOU ARE A TOY!!!!!!
He's a what???!!
no that's metal sonic
Plot Twist, we've been watching the Mech-Apologist this whole time!
@@spiderplant A TOY!!!!!
One of the things that always bugged me about the literal fallout of this issue is how quickly Robotropolis getting nuked became inconsequential. There was, what, one issue with a throwaway scene of Robotnik rebuilding?
Ironic that Robotropolis eventually became ground zero of another nuclear catastrophe that destroyed it for real.
Gotta love Mecha March. Also, does anyone else find that metal noise at the beginning so satisfying? Like you can picture Eggman forging Metal sonic in a pit of fire or something.
One of my favorites, as well. Spaz is a legend.
I mean like. If I was Bunny, and got access to all sorts of flying, lazer blasting, limb-stretching stuff, And if I was a resistance fighter, I sure as heck wouldn't want to be un-robotisized! I don't know why you keep pushing it
But you AREN’T Bunnie, are you?
I would keep the robot parts for the time being, but keep the machine under lock and key and make sure it isnt broken or anything so i can de-robot my self once the whole war is over.
Spaz's art really makes this special shine. So cool. Love this year's work so far! Once March is over, I'd love to see Portable or Gamecation come back. I was rewatching some of your older videos recently and would love to see some newer ones. Awesome video, Nick. Toot toot
I miss working on those. Just a matter of time, though. Thank you for supporting the more obscure stuff!
@@GameApologist Anytime, Nick. Love the channel and your work, man!
Did you know that Mecha Sonic returned in a brief panel during the World's Collide event? He's seen holding a flag along side Mecha Sally.
He also reappeared before that. There's an issue where Sonic, Tails, Snively, and Robo-Robotnik were abducted by aliens called the Bem. Sonic and Tails were roboticized, becoming Mecha Sonic and Mecha Tails, and Robo-Robotnik and Snively were deroboticized (as Snively was recently roboticized by Robo-Robotnik). They were then made to fight each other, with the winner reverting back to their previous form, and the loser staying in their new form. You can probably guess the outcome.
This Mecha sonic design looks so sick. Makes me wish we could have seen it in satam itself.
Fun fact: That south line is even worse in cannon. According to the comic encyclopedia, a portion of rabbit barons betrayed the kingdom of Acorn in the Overlander(Humans) vs Mobians war. She is literally screaming "The people who betrayed the kingdom in the last war will rise again" in front of the queen
WAIT I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE IT _LESS_ BAD, NOT _MORE_ BAD
"Who watches a sonic video in 3am?"
*Oh BOY 3AM*
#Timezone
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The "cheap foreign parts" line MIGHT have been a reference to Downunda, as seen in the Tails Miniseries. Ore from that continent would play a part in Endgame.
And, much later in Super Special 11, it's revealed that Bunnie can't be de-robotized without risking her life. It's a retcon, but..this book kind of ran on retcons.
Or it's just racism. Considering the line about the south rising again, I'm gonna go with the author inserting real world commentary and his own opinions. It used to be quite common (the cyberpunk genre was full of this).
Love seeing the man with 108k. Content ain’t nothin’ but quality! Thank you for the vids man, been loving em💚
12:00 I was NOT expecting that
I don’t think any of us were, I was so caught off guard lol
The Bunnie point you made was answered I'm pretty sure in a later comic. Whilst SatAM she kept trying to become "normal" again. In the comic she didn't want to be normal because she would lose all her abilities, she wanted to help others as a freedom fighter.
I think it was even answered *earlier*, when they find the portable de-roboticizer in #29.
One of my favorite archie stories. Hope you cover Mecha Sally and The Brotherhood of Metallix next.
Game Apologist video: Check
Mecha madness arc: Check
Shinning Force music in the background: Double Check
I think it is stated that Bonnie doesn't want to get back to how she was because she was a capable fighter with her robotic parts. Even more, I'm pretty sure that in one of the latest comics, near the end of the series, she actually opted to get deroboticized. And if my memory doesn't fail me, she not being there to help is the reason Antoine himself has to jump in the middle of a suicide bomber metal sonic in order to protect the royal family.
Amazing stuff as always .
She wanted to get derobotized earlier in the series but there was some medical issue, she had two choices: amputation or upgrade. That's how she got the sleeker limbs. Way later but before the genesis wave, she got turned normal through Naugus's crystal magic. After the penders wave they retconned it to something else.
Sonic Forces would've been so much cooler if Sonic became Mecha Sonic.
Roboticizing isn't canon anymore...
*looks at Tails in Sonic Lost World* Unless it is...
@@1Hol1Tiger we don't talk about that
@@1Hol1Tiger “anymore” implies it ever was.
@@tonyhakston536wtf do you mean ? Roboticization has always been canon, it apears in satam, archie and lost world.
@@sandudelcea6707 if you haven't noticed, those first two arent canon.
I love hearing you gush about Archie and SatAM, you really capture the magic of what made it special while being honest about its shortcomings. I always look forward to your reviews, great stuff Nick!
"the south shall rise again" ooooooohh no
11:59 Of all of the places in which I would have ever expected to hear that phrase, a Sonic comic was not one of them. Early Archie was wild, lmao
I still remember this, and issues 39 and 40 *so* vividly, even though I haven't owned any of the books in decades. Spaz's art has always been a huge inspiration to me, and his art from this era still is.
Spaz's old art was truly incredible
I feel the need to point out that since Uncle Chuck designed the Roboticizer, the "Retro-Procedure" was probably a built in system related to how the Deroboticizer function. So it's basically a reversion of the original procedure, and Sonic only survived because of his aura.
This was actually a plot point in SatAM I believe, where since Roboticization could be undone, the Freedom Fighters were unwilling to destroy the Robians.
I really love this design for a robot Sonic , that would be a cool statue or something. The art is really good as well! Great video and happy Mecha March!
Finally, one of my favorite sonic robots. I remember seeing this guy for the first time while looking through archie comic covers in mega collection as a kid. From the color scheme, to those rectangular gold cuffs, to the long, metallic ears and mouth, I absolutely love this design and it almost rivals the game metal sonic design for me. I was so fascinated to know what his deal was, or if it was supposed to be the official depiction of S3&K's mecha sonic, but I wouldn't get a chance to get into archie until much later.
Oh my! You weren't kidding about the mecha madness! I had no idea the Sonic franchise had so many robot things! This is madness! By the way, what programs and equipment do you use to make your videos? I've been wanting to start my own RUclips channel because I was inspired by you, your great videos, and your awesome channel! I love your videos and I can't wait to see what else you have in store for us Sonic Warriors! Keep up the good work! Toot toot Nick!
I use Vegas but I do NOT recommend the program. Constant crashes. The only reason I'm still using it is because I am waiting for the license to run out. I'd play around with some free editors first and see what works for you.
@@GameApologist Will do! Thank you so much!
I like how with the designs of each Sonic character-themed robot, it makes most of them easy to distinguish, even if the comics retconned and mis-named different ones:
This is how I've tried to organize them. (It's not perfect, but it's something.)
Metal Series (Metal Sonic from Sonic CD, Metal Knuckles from Sonic R, Metal Tails from the Archie Comics, etc..) = Sleek, powerful, fits as a "metal-focused" version of a character.
Mecha Series (The ones seen in this comic an Mecha Sally as seen in later comics. Probably also Metal Sonic from S3&K.) = Big, bulky, and blocky. Fit as a stylized version of the original character, but as if they were wearing a robotic suit of armor.
Prototype/Early/Varied/Mixture Series (Tails Doll? Game Gear Silver Sonic & Sonic 2 Silver Sonic?) = Everything else.
There's others that I'm probably missing, but most are either prototypes or a variation of a series that could fit in somewhere.
while i’m not a huge fan of the archie comics or original characters i do love how deep the lore goes and while it is retconned many times this comics shows some consistency which i like. I wish the games would take its lore a little more seriously
This and super sonic vs hyper knuckles were my favorite Archie comics as a kid. Dope video
I really hope one day we can get a mecha tails. And if we ever do get one, I hope that his intelligence stays intact, as with how smart he really is minus his childish and sometimes scaredy-cat nature, he could probably overthrow and outdo eggman in almost every way. Might be epic and terrifying to see.
Actually we did get a Mecha Tails that retained his personality, along with the return of Mecha Sonic, also with the original Sonic personality.
From what I remember it involves aliens.
They explain this several times. Due to Bunnie not being completely roboticized, she is neither a mobian, robot, robian. She’s a cyborg. She’s a fusion of both, and all that can happen is just either replace the parts, or complete the roboticization
You know, there are day when I just LOVE how this series mixes fun humor and some good serious moments. I guess in a way you could almost say it feels like a mix of Silver Age and dark age astetics mixed with some good old fanshion kids stuff. Kind of takes me back to what I hear about how the old Archie Turtles went (Some dark, but light stories as well.) And it is fun without having to think too hard until later, because it knew its audience. Let me put it this way.
As a kid, I didn't care about the raditation, blast strength, or whatever of a nuke. I just knew nuke means giant boom and powerful explosion. I didn't think about how there could be any robains left or the recon that was here about Sal and Knux's relationship or the retcons that were soon the come in later comics. I didn't think about the idea of "possible use of robotizer" other than it exsists or even how can Sonic collect 1 billion rings (Seriously, what HAD he been doing in between comics. We know the rings are a one time use for a boost, and somehow he used a billion. Trust me, the numbers don't add up, you can't get 1 billion if you add all of the games together.) just that a Billion was a lot, and it sounds special and cool. Kind of like how a DC comic in the old days could spout giberish and you knew it was wrong, but it was fun and exciting. Hell, I didn't think much about the forgien parts gag or the logic behind it, why? Because it was a classic gag that's been used for years.
And yet, these stories still provided a lot of character, great heart, and action in spite of the many MANY stupid moments that come before and later down the line. I guess whatI am saying is thanks for reminding me of what made the comics so special and awesome.
Side note: God these comics are reminding me why I love Sally and Bunnie so damn much. Sally, no time for emotions, get in theere and kick ass.
Always a treat when ya post :)
Mecha Madness is notable for being where the Comic really starts coming together. Consider that originally, Issue 50 was supposed to be the grand finale, and we're rapidly approaching that. So it's time for everything to get serious. Endgame drops in only 6 short issues later, and that alone was a trip. Here, we get the beginning of this by Mecha Sonic's first action being brutally ripping apart comic relief Crabmeat, a way to show the readers "No, we're not screwing around here".
Of course, you can also see all the crazy jokes the early Comic was infamous for. This is a great transitory point. Especially when Bunnie says "The South Shall Rise Again!" and when Rotor says that "This is the Battle of the SEGA Century". It's just pure 90s consolidated into one spot, both dark action and pure comedy that's so ridiculous it's hilarious.
SsethTzeentch once said in his Morrowind Review that "When everything is out of place, nothing is" and I feel that really describes Sonic as a whole. Cyborg Nazi Echidnas? Orbital space colonies with genetically engineered monster lizards? Battling a mass of pure evil in the Earth's Core with a Megazord made of temples? A giant purple cat voiced by the same guy who voiced Duke Nukem? All of them are insane, but together they fit Sonic perfectly.
I honestly kind of miss this sort of thing, where you'd have all these wacky elements that managed to work in near perfect harmony. I don't really see it around as much anymore nowadays. Probably why I had such a blast reading some TMNT comics.
Anyway, glad to see the video.
Its great stuff. Sonic's wild nature is underrated way too often, even in the eyes of the fandom. People focus on the simple "Sonic saves animals and fights Eggman piloting mechas" way too much. Sonic used to represent just pure adventure... not the garbage like Forces and the Boom games.
Wow damn. Honestly a Robotized Sonic sounds cool.
Also how many issues does Archie Sonic have? I'm planning to read through something, might as well do the whole Archie Sonic.
I greatly recommend it. Its a wild and endearing ride. There are 290 issues of the mainline boom proper but a lot more counting spin offs, specials, and Sonic Universe.
Archie Sonic REALLY makes justice to a franchise where _Chaos_ energy is a thing.
Like 600 issues. 290 of the main comic, and related to that series are over a dozen specials/mini-series, 40 Knuckles issues, and 90 Sonic Universe issues. Then there are spin-offs like Sonic X and Boom, which also crossover with the main series at points, plus the two Mega Man crossovers.
There are guides and reading orders and whatnot online to organize this all.
I think it's cool that you're finally covering some comics that prominently features Bunnie Rabbot. She's vastly underrated and one of my faves.
I liked her part in this story a little more than Knuckles and Sonic, because we knew they were going to be awesome, but Bunny's performance was a surprise. Breaking out an energy shield, rocket boosters, and goddamn megabuster. Infact her design was veering very close to Megaman in those days, and Megman X had come out afew years earlier...
Should've kept that around. Not a fan of the skinnier revamp.
YAY! A Speed Reading for the Archie Comics! I've been hearing lots of good things about this particular arc and I have to admit that the fight scenes look amazing! I definitely need to reread this arc again!
I hope SEGA makes some new Sonic robots.
Metal surely is good but man they already made 3000 Sonic robots another would just be a smart surprise.
The Coconuts’ paw curls and we get the wacky Ristar looking scrapped Mecha Sonic design from Xtreme.
Knuckles agreed to be robotized so I assumed Tails explained the burn protection to him.
Bunny..... bro how did they not think that would be problematic at all like serioausly.
YES!! Back to the speed reading. You've been killing it lately dude! Really impressed 👏
Filled my pants with a stinky fart when I saw the upload. Love this series!
What the fuck dude...
Least oddly perverted sonic fan
Bro what
Mmm Mmm Stinky
Mmm Mmm Stinky
Man as a 10 year old boy I thought this arc was so badass, and to listen to him talk about it in a joking way hurts 🤣🤣🤣 I mean I get it, but it still hurts haha 😭
I would say we don't see uncle chuck pull any of that off because simply put, he isn't a fighter, he's a creator. He may have all the strength but he's not at all skilled at using it.
Is it funny how sonic showed no hesitation to the others but with tails he’s just like “nah”
Hell yes. Someone commented on your last video regarding this story and when you'd get to it, did not expect it to be the next one!! I started reading Archie right when this came out, I remember the first issue in my collection was #40 with Sonic and Fang on the cover, so this arc holds a particularly special place in my heart as a lifelong fan
God, I loved this comic, it was INSANE at the time.
I wish that you did include issue 40, since I always considered it as part of the complete mecha madness story as an epilogue chapter, despite Spaz not providing pencils. I love that it includes Amy, since aside from appearing in a background shot with no dialogue once or twice, this was her first appearance since she was introduced in issue 25. Poor Amy, Penders and the other writers at the time clearly did give a crap about her, and she would not become relevant to the plot of the narrative until the Sonic Adventure adaptation, and we know how awkward that would become.
This was my jumping off point. I loved this storyline. I immediately started getting into the comics from here and loved them
Oh, it's been a while since I've heard Mecha Madness, hoo boy. The memories.
absolutely PERFECT timing- i just finished this issue not too long ago and its great having this as a retrospective of sorts for this stellar special
This might be my favorite mini-series even to this day. Man this was a defining moment for little me. I read it til it fell apart.
I always just had the headcannon that Bunnie can't be turned back to normal because she isn't fully a robian. Flimsy, but better than nothing.
Mecha Knuckles: beep boop Do I look like I need your powers boop beep
I just realized I been watching for over a year now.
This video was a nostalgia-bomb. Was my favorite arc in the sonic comics. I mean you could make a shounen arc out of this with all the escalation from Bunny to Knuckles, to finally Mecha Knuckles.
I'm digging this series so far! I like the idea of making March centering on Mecha Sonic characters.
YOU KNOW EVERYTHING I'M GOING TO DO, AND I KNOW EVERYTHING YOU'RE GOING TO DO, STRANGE ISN'T IT?!
The South Shall Rise Again.
Either Mecha Sonic is getting a Texas sized beat down or Bunnie is attracting the Memphis Curse.
Memphis, Tennesee
I remember that I somehow found a slightly banged up copy of this comic with one of the later Archie arcs around the Mega Man crossover. There was this big closet thing in a classroom of my old middle school and they were just sitting there under all the clutter. I held onto them for a while and loved what I was reading, but then I put them back where I found them. Probably not a good idea, but I guess it was better to cherish the memory of them.
The ultimate life form? I direct you to this mecha man :)
Advert for Sonic Movie 2 during this video. What a time to be alive for a fan of blue blur!
Nice to see you covering Archie, they had some great stories!
You know I was a little worried when she called the evil robots Yankees but Bunny going full Confederate was a twist I wasn't expecting.
Also Knuckles, look man. I get you want everyone to "Buy angel Islandian" but we don't make stuff anymore. Stop watching "Louder with Grounder"
24:41 - His Kneecap armor looks like a Chaos/Master Emerald
I mean she was always a southern stereotype in terms of personality, wasn't she?
@Damian Freeman I mean, she had a southern accent but I was hoping thats where the similarities ended lmao
You mentioned how this version of Mecha Sonic drew a lot of design inspiration from the Mecha Sonic Boss in Sonic & Knuckles, but it's funny that in the comic's universe it was the other way around. In the Death Egg miniseries Robotnik explains how he used saved data from Mecha Sonic's design specs as a base, then pumped it up with super armor to create "Silver Sonic," which was basically the comic's version of the Mecha Sonic boss from Death Egg Zone in Sonic 2, and later on it was upgraded into Silver Sonic Mk2 after the Sonic Adventure adaptation which was supposed to be the comic's version of the Sonic & Knuckles version of Mecha Sonic, so it goes full circle.
On a merch note, Jakks Pacific gave us a toy of the Sonic 2 Mecha Sonic which is awesome, but now I hope we get the S&K version too, though as you mentioned a lack of concept art outside of the sprite might make that difficult.
Back when I was a kid, I modeled my own art on Spaz's. I looked up to his style so much and drew his scenes day in and out!
I just read through this myself, and I'm hyped to see what you have to say on it!
My favorite! The art was so beautiful.
I remember buying this comic as a kid. This comic got me into Archie Sonic the Hedgehog
This cover was the top of its game at the time between this and the supersonic versus hyper knuckles
Man this was so cool, as weird as Archie was this story was awesome.
I have a suggestion for another robot for March, might be an obscure one.
So growing up in England my school library had these "Sonic the Hedgehog Adventure Gamebooks", basically an RPG in a book. The idea was you'd read a scenario and have a choice to make, and flip to a page that corresponded to the choice. Combat was done with dice rolls like a tabletop RPG. Really it's a whole system that was really fun to read for a middle schooler.
There were 6 books total and one of these was about a robot doppelganger of sonic, the book was titled Sonic vs Zonik.
That would be a deep dive to look into since I've literally never seen anyone mention the Sonic gamebooks since I was a kid.
Dude. I have two of those. Sonic vs Zonik and Metal City Mayhem.
Another good video dude
The reason Bunnie never got de-botted is likely because she's a far more effective fighter as a cyborg. Deroboticizing her would effectively render her no longer capable of being a freedom fighter. Remember, she was originally just some random bunny. She was probably planning on being restored to normal after Robotnik's reign of terror had finally been ended.
Now I'm hoping you cover Mecha Sally's Return, but I will still be content If you don't cause your content is baller, Keep it up!
I love the sonic archives book compilation 💜.
Spaz's Artwork is Absolutely Steller, especially his drawing of Sonic Robotitized.
You are such a good sonic youtuber
13:12 Sonic's shadow is looking a bit more "Reddit" than usual
Ah, nostalgia. I ordered this one direct from Archie back when it first came out 😁
This probably fuelled the Metal Sonic is Sonic from the future theory it is really interesting to think about
Is this the only time Spaz illustrated a whole issue? His art makes the whole thing. Archie's earlier years really prove how important the art is to me since I realise that ALL the memorable stories from then are the very few that used the best artists like Spaz and Axer. For some reason the ones that can't draw sonics do the vast majority of issues
I like to think that the yellow parts on Mecha Sonic represent all the rings he's collected, and how they've protected him back when he was organic, so now as a robot they've become literal armor.
2:21 And now to steal a Random Quote from Somewhere else that I think is fitting for Partial Robians:
"It's not In the Circuitry is it? It's not the Machine that Resists you! IT'S MY SPIRIT!"
-Victor Stone aka Cyborg; Classic Teen Titans Animated
I hope you cover MECHA SALLY soon. Please.
Thank you for covering this arc I still vividly remember seeing the cover for this in mega collection back when I was a kid but I never knew where to find sonic comics as a kid.
Huh... I always thought her "Last resort" plan was to chuck unconscious Knuckles against his will into the roboticizer
since the story was playing up Sally's tough decisions as a leader and stuff
This story was a fun and exciting one, seeing what would happen if Sonic was turn into a robot and seeing how dangerous he is.
So I nobody gonna talk about how mean crabmeat was though? "Oh yes Lord of Lard"
I think the "inferior foreign parts" *is* a joke, since back in the 80s Japanese and European car imports were absolute demolishing the American car industry, and a lot of marketing back then and during the early 90s wanted to make the imports sound like cheap Chinese crap, and the only way you would get a good quality automobile was buying true blue _'Murican_ cars.
There's a reason why you only hear about Japanese and European cars from that era, by the way.
All the old Badnicks aren't talking sidekick because that would imply that all the bots you are destroying in the game are fully sentient.
The art from No. 39 has influenced me so much, I think it's so sick. I'm into the digital patterns on the Mecha forms too, I always felt it was good visual separation of roboticized vs. original bots. Not sure how consistent that was but still I like it.
This series was the HYPEST! Mecha Madness special is one of the few issues I owned multiple copies of. Probably bought it 3 times.
That Mecha Sonic vs. Mecha Knux, Fang's involvement, SPAZ's artwork in general. It's a masterpiece of a comic book story.
He's reading a mecha madness?
Or is he explaining speed reading using Mecha Madness?
I always loved Spaz's art.
18:27 made me sad hearing sonic say that 😭😭😭