I have the Z50 and like it very much for its small form factor and good image quality but a few things should be improved: - better AF (new processor) - USB-C - no 30 min. recording time limit - a flash button like in the D7200, which is also a function button - more programing options for the buttons (like in the ZF) I wish nikon will also introduce a Z500 or Z90. In this camera I would additionaly like to see: - IBIS - second card slot - bigger form factor - illuminated buttons - monitor form factor like in the Z8 - (perhaps only electronic shutter and sensor shield) More megapixels are not very important for me. Good low light capabilities are more important in my optinion. Flippy screens are not my first choice, but I can live with them.
God please let it be the “D500” option with as much tech as Nikon can justify, including IBIS, pixel shift, 4k video and in-camera charging and great focus. This would be a travel and backcountry sensation given the compact optics it would also allow.
I am a professional Sony A1 shooter but my daughter is just starting college and I am looking at a camera for her. Sony would make sense but their lower end / entry level offerings are very poor. So I find myself looking at Nikon z50 or FC. I think I will go with the FC because I feel the cameras dials will help her learn photography.
I've had a Z50 for 3 3/4 years. It's been a great little travel camera. For the price my only real complaint is the touch "buttons" on the screen. I sight with my left eye. When I do so on the Z50 my nose boops the screen buttons. Always at the worst moments. It drives me nuts. And speaking of the screen. Please STAY with the tilting screen. No "flippy" screen. Oh, and 25 - 30 MP would be nice too.
@@andrzejjaniak6849 Depends on the context of the touch functions - menu nav, playback functions, focus point position or eye switching while EVF is in use are tremendously useful things. But I also generally have touch functions turned off for shooting while using the display - aperture, shutter, ISO, touch focus / shutter, no need for those.
I do think there should be 2 new apsc 1. a basic Z50II for entry level 2. A full stacked similar to XH2s for birding/wildlife. The fully stacked pro level is what I want. Actually I would have got the XH2s if the focus was Z8/Sony/Canon level. Also it lacked great lenses like Nikon has for wildlife. A no 3. wish list but I doubt we would get is a higher pixel density aps-h stacked sensor Z8 pro level type cam.
The Z50II needs to retain the overall smaller size and lighter weight characteristics and lower price point while adding an updated processor and improved AF. It doesn’t need a resolution bump, dual card slots, or any high performance features. IBIS would be great so long as it doesn’t bulk things up too much. This would make it a great entry level camera, a nice second body for those already in the Z system, and a nice hiking / backpacking / travel setup. We also really need a Z version of the D500, with IBIS, a good sized buffer, dual card slots, and the processor and AF system from the Z6III or Z8 in a body the size of the Z6IIi. I would pre-order that camera today.
For a Z50ii a 24 mp sensor would be the sweet spot allowing for excellent IQ and some crop-ability. I shot on a D7200 apsc 24 mp and it produced excellent IQ upwards of ISO 2000-3000, so there is no reason a Z50ii with a 24 mp sensor (BSI or partially stacked) could not produce similar results. EXPEED 7 for sure, up to 10-15 fps would be enough for entry level. A "Z500" would be similar but offer more fps and perhaps some enhanced features of the Z6iii.
Ever since the arrival of my baby grand daughters it's always 11 fps intially on my Z50 with a 40mm f/2 and later 24mm f/1.7 I got so tired of "culling" through the shots after a session I reduced my burst rate to 3 fps 😁 I'm super excited about the Z50 update, I've had the Z50 since 2021 July and enjoying it every bit: the form factor, image quality and autofocus in such a small body. I've been a Nikon Shooter always: have D3200 and D610 and a splattering of F and Z mount lenses. Thanks for the video Matt. Agree burst mode can get tiring; after 15-20 minute session with the kids I edn up with close to 100 shots and more.
Thanks for the video, Matt! I currently own the Z50, and would really appreciate greatly reduced rolling shutter... I'd take that over any improvement in iso performance. Lastly, an updated auto focus would round it out for me.
Hello Matt. Not sure about what will come in the Z50ii or the Z5ii, but I do think that Nikon need entry level mirrorless camera that do not have all the bells and whistle at a cheeper price. These marketed at schools and universities and people just needing a step into the world of Nikon. Like most Nikon Z8 and Z9 users I have tried 30fps to 120fps and to be honest I end up deleting most of the images, as it just take so long finding thr best image. Yes i can see there are times that these setting are great, but only the odd one or two. Better image quality is the better.
Seriously doubt the Z50ii would replace a D500. The D500 was a $2000 price point in 2016. You’re not selling its replacement at a $900 price point. The best way to get it would be a Z7iii at the $3000-3500 price point, with a crop “performance” mode. Effectively you’d get 2 cameras. Not sure if the center portion could readout faster.
I have always thought the Z50 was underrated. It is part of my light weight hiking kit and I have taken some really good photos with it without coming home with sore shoulders from a long hike. I am also comfortable having this camera on a wrist strap unlike my heavier camera. It isn't quite as good as the Z7II, which I also have, but hiking with the Z7II kit is much more grueling. What I'd like to see improved is to add IBIS, bump up to 24MP, better auto-focus, and a fully articulated screen would be nice.
I’ve had the Z50 since it came out, has been a great camera to learn on. A recent Hockey shoot showed how good it is on all fronts. Shooting on an old Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 still auto focused well for my needs. I have also shot Astro with it and my Tokina 11-16 f2.8 and it’s been great. An Expeed 7 upgrade to the Auto focus would be welcomed, as well as some sort of sensor upgrade (better noise control at higher ISOs?) and they would have a killer little camera body
20-something sensor size is fine if native 4k video is supported and pixel-shift allows an effective 50-something (or higher) megapixel capture on tripod for those certain grand landscape shots that you’d want to have in hi-res.
I think the z50ii will include Expeed7 and other improvements. IBS would be nice along with a semi-stack sensor I’m guessing at the 20.9 MP range. I think they will bring out at the same time a z70 with a semi-stack or fully stack sensor in the 24MP to 33MP, IBS, XQD, and SD slot, Expeed7, 11 technical & 30 electronic FPS to bring it up to a D500 replacement level. Since the z6iii is at $2500 the z70 could be $1500 range.
Hi Matt! Not for me but Z50II with IBIS and faster sensor/processor I'm guessing would be welcomed by many. And a Z500 like the Zf is to Zfc (but still APS-C). I honestly don't know what the market would be for that, however. Indeed, the Komodo price drop is an exciting indication of where Nikon might be taking their new acquisition.
I have a D7500 and what I first noticed about this camera is just how good the sensor performs. The images coming out of this thing are really good, you can almost feel the difference from say the D5600. I put this down to the larger photo-sites on the sensor giving “only” 20.9 MP. But this 20.9 MP is really MP over-shoot for viewing images on a PC or iPad because you only need about 3MP for beautiful images on these devices. Back in the film days I used to print but these days I’m into digital viewing only. Of course, if I get an absolutely fantastic image of something, I’d be tempted to print but for almost all my shots … digital viewing only. This means, at least for me, that massive pixel sensors are a bit of a talking point only. I appreciate that the more costly cameras have better EVF, screens, buffers etc and it’s not just about the sensor. I think the APS-C format is still highly valid and a Z50II that had a 21MP sensor but with great EVF, screen, buffer, focus system, backlit buttons, En-El15c battery, two UHS II cards, IBIS (5 stop), would be a total winner, at the appropriate price of course. Cheers Matt, love your videos.
The best thing Nikon should do is a Z50 and Z500 Iterate on the Z50, lower specs and price say a sub $1000 and innovate on Z500 with semi stacked sensor, ibis, high speed shooting and at sub $2000 price range n pro build body
Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. No one invests in DX these days, maybe except Fuji because they don't have full frame. Even Sony doesn't have a pro body (no, A6700 is not a pro body in the style of D500).
I’ve had a Z50 for over a year. The weight of the little guy and feel of the grip make it a great travel camera and potentially great back up camera for landscape. I would love to see in body stabilization, 24 mp, and higher resolution EVF. As a nit pick, moving the play button to the top left like other Nikons would also be a reason to upgrade.
If Nikon can use the same stacked APSC sensor as the Fujifilm XH2S in their new APSC camera, whether that is a Z50 II or a Z90, whatever it is called that would be really exciting. A few more DX lenses with brighter apertures, better build quality, but still moderate size/weight would be fantastic as well. Fuji X mount offers some excellent f2.8-4 or f4 constant (with OIS/VR) lenses that I wish Nikon would learn from. I understand Nikon is focusing on FX cameras (as they should) but a slightly more robust DX lineup would really bolster Z series and grow the audience.
Nikon needs 3 cameras in the new range of APSC: - Nikon Z50 II, the body of the Z30 but with viewfinder. No on screen buttons. New processor, better AF, better video features, open gate, 4k60, etc. Something like the Fuji XS20, but without IBIS and cheaper. - Nikon Z30 II, same camera body than Z30. New processor Expeed 7, better AF, better video features. Open gate would be great. - Nikon Z80, something like the Z8 but APSC sensor and smaller body. Something like Z7 size. Shutterless, high speed sensor. IBIS. Good battery life, sturdy body for pro use. CFexpress Card. A mirrorless D500.
If it is Z50ii with AF like Z6iii has and 14 fps and - ideally - IBIS I'll buy the new camera first thing in the morning. It would be a great travel/wildlife/street photography camera for an amateur like me. I believe it will be the most popular camera around the world given the price is reasonable and Nikon takes care of good light APS-C lenses.
Always nice to see you analyze rumors using industry trends and other real data. Your approach makes a lot of sense. Thanks for your efforts. I have a Z50 as a smaller camera while biking with a capture clip on a backpack strap. I agree on USB-C and the idea of migrating the newer processor in and some other tweaks, while keeping it small and light. Looking forward to see what they do and I expect I'll want to move up to it. 21 mpix is plenty and keeps the pixels larger for low light. I also prefer the existing battery grip over the trend toward retro bodies with their outdated ergonomics.
I am upset that camera manufacturers are not offering tilt and flip-out screens as simultaneous options for their new releases. I hate the flip-out LCD for photography. Detest. Abhor. That’s not for photography. I strongly recommend makers make 2 versions to keep people happy. Further, I like DPReview’s wish list for the II back from their 2019 review: AF tracking not drifting off the subject, better integrated AF, better battery life and a touch joystick - though the 7th processor will address the software side - plus for me IBIS and a trio of new lenses to go with it. That would make for a great camera. Thanks Matt for your appreciation of my most beloved camera brand.
I have a z50 and I like this camera and I'm thinking about selling it. The problem is the lack of good lenses for the APS-C system, e.g. 100-400 f4.5-5.6 vr, 30-300 vr, 35 f1.8 vr, 85, 1.8 vr and some lenses with f 2.8. The camera itself is very good, it may lack eye tracking in birds, but the small number of DX lenses makes me want to abandon this system and go for another one.
Thanks for the info and thoughts Matt. If they go for a Z500 type DX camera, or both, one entry level to get people into the system plus a Z500 type, it then needs to offer a significant advantage to just cropping in-camera , Z7, Z8, Z9, which gives a just under 20mp file. So a 33MP or thereabouts APS-C sensor with the Expeed 7 chip, if they can get over those pixel pitch problems technologically, not so easy. If they can, I bet they would sell loads, I would definitely buy one...
the FujiFilm at 40 MP = to 90MP actually on a full frame (must multiply 40 by 1.5 square which is 90MP). Still a lot MP and the technology is out there, perhaps not stacked but the pixel density has been out there for a while now. We do need a cropped flagship sensor (although we could shoot DX with the Z8 or Z9 and reach a similar amount of MP, couldn't we?).
I love the Z50, but decided to go full frame be ause there is no image stabilization. A large portion of my photography is handheld in lower light, so this is almost mandatory. I still have the Z50 and am considering selling the camera and lenses, but i have a bit of nostalgia.
I would be happy for the Z50II to be an APSC version of the Z6III. It would be nice to update it to a 24MP sensor. In a fantasy mode, I would also love to see Nikon update the Series1, V3 with the new specs. I have both and use them occasionally, but the Z8 overwhelms them in everything it does. It's hard to put that down to use anything else. Just a little ramble for you.
Good stuff Matt! With 3 new Nikons registered and presumably coming this year,the crop segment have to have the ExPeed 7 and the BIG gap is the D500 replacement to compete with R7(Anwar said they have sold half a million).Mid range crop 50mk2 probably could be first but wait and see.I also RED that something new is brewing, so clear out the old. What about Expeed 7 paired with the Red sensors in a Cinema style Nikon Z( would that have been developed yet?).Talk is around of the Next SuperZOOOOOM ,an update of P1000/950 too.Intruiging but, not too long and we will know what the 3 are.
I have a D500 and a ZF. I'd call it the Z500. They should use the other battery as I now swap D500 to ZF as needed. 10 or so fps is fine for sports. I shoot at low speed. I hardly want that many frames. The Zf tracking is very good for sports and birds. I turn off animal recognition and that stuff. It's too slow for sports. I use the spot or smallest target and move the focus point as needed. Dynamic in video on the ZF is nice and hit the OK button and re-centers. Good video. The DX excels for reach at a lower cost of entry along with less glass required. If they build it with the same approach as the D500 I still use for birds today they can get $1,200-1,600 for it.
Matt, it's interesting that I posted my long comment here BEFORE watching your video. We're thinking the same... yup Z9 II will have additional perks from the RED Cameras technology (at a very competitive price). Hopefully there'll be a much improved AF so to end all speculations (and criticism) over Nikon's having to 'catch up'. Canon and Sony will have to catch up if Nikon plays well its cards at the next round.
There won't be any. I think it's going to be Z30 and Z50ii, and full frame only. People want Z8 tech in a Z6ii body with an APS-C 36MP sensor all for $999. It ain't going to happen.
@@bencollins7684 ^---this. Nikon could build a mirrorless D500 with a stacked sensor/IBIS/Expeed 7 but it’s not going to come in under $2k; more like $3k. And then you’re competing with the Z6iii and Z8.
I own the Z50 and I am fully invested in DX Glass (mostly 3rd party, of course), so I am waiting for an update at the edge of my seat! Been waiting since the Z9 was announced for that D500 or even a D7500 replacement! That said.... the Z50-II should be the D5500 replacement it always was. Focus on small size (thus no IBIS), Baseline sensor... but Expeed7 with 3-D tracking would be VERY welcome. I still hold that Nikon needs a flagship Z-DX Body... just not the z50.
I have a Z50, but would like improved auto focus (Expeed 7), IBIS, USB-C. Less important would be dual card slots, side flip screen that didn't respond to being touched by your nose, battery grip and maybe a head phone socket and a higher mega pixel viewfinder.
Interesting material, thank you! For me, the most important information is when there will be real precapture in Z9 in RAW files. 10 frames per second will be enough. JPG files are child's play.
With a partially stacked sensor, IBIS and new autofocus, I am sold on it. I don't think it needs a megapixel jump. 18-21mp is fine. That may help maintain low light performance. A fully articulating screen, improved EVF and video of 4K@120 would help it surpass the competition. And of course, the USBC.
Hi Matt, that orchid is placed well. 🙂 On your D500 replacement idea, we could see a Z90 with the 45.7 MP full frame sensor cropped, which would make a 30.5 MP APSC. Possible?
I‘m using a ZFC and I love it. But I really wish that he upcoming update include IBIS, the Expeed 7 Processor and far better AF results with moving elements. The resolution needs a small update 24/26 are enough. Price tag should max 1500€
I don't know that there are new cameras coming any time soon. And if that was the case for a Z50 Mark II then why wouldn't Nikon be discounting that one. It seems they're discounting the Z7 II and Z6 II. So maybe a Z7 III but that would be about all I can think of. Z50 Mark II maybe (although probably more like a Z80 as it may be similar to a Z8 or a Z60 so it's more like a Z6 III). I do think the Z5 is going to be discontinued next year though since it's been on sale more this calendar year, than it has been off sale (ie. $1299 or $1399).
I'd rather see the improvements you mentioned into a Z7iii. Giving a 45 meg sensor and better and faster autofocus to those who want still photos of the larger file size but don't need all the more expensive features of the Z8. Those wanting DX sizing can then use the same camera in DX mode. So a camera which can solve the needs of both markets.
I do hope Nikon updates both the Z50 and the Z5 in the not too distant future. I owned a D750 and D7500 for years, using the latter almost exclusively for nature photography, and I paid a combined price of $2600 for both in 2018-2019, with the 24-120 F4 with the D750, and both were marketed as pro/semi pro bodies. Now the cheapest mirrorless camera Nikon makes that is considered pro level is the $2500 body only Z6iii? It’s making it difficult for hobbyists to afford to stay in photography.
If the Z50II had IBIS, no touch buttons and is the same size or smaller than the Z50 I'd sell my Z6 full frame equipment for APS-C. Much easier for biking and hiking :)
For me the USB-C port was one of the reasons to buy the Z fc instead of the Z50... And the combination of turning and flipping the screen is also an advantage. The Z50II should be more than the Z fc IMO. The current Z50 has actually the same screen option as the Nikon 1 J5 has. IBIS would be nice!
Those flippy screens can piss riiiiiiiiggghhhttt off. They're garbage, and can't be titled while the screen is still in line with the body of the camera.
I don't think Nikon will make Z50ii as D500 replacement. Z50 is the only segment as of now for entry level (Cheaper) option for enthusiasts stepping into mirrorless. Z30 being vlogger focussed, Z50ii will be a minor ugprade from first gen. I expect D500 replacement would be something new segment adapting almost all the features from Z6iii with apsc mode & around 700 - 800$ cheaper.
As alway a most interesting analysis of current trends and speculation. Thanks! The upcoming ASP-C really constitutes the crossroads for me. IBIS and perhaps Expeed 7 is enough for me to upgrade my Z50. Without these features I will abandon the F & Z DX product lines almost entirely - only exception being the Zfc and the dirt cheap manual third party lenses, it's to much fun to use, can't get rid of it - and use the Z8 for all purposes, including travel/vacation photography.
I would like to see a much improved AF, IBIS, USBC power, focus stacking(the Z50 is the only Nikon body without it), improved battery life, faster frames/second. Price could be increased .
I’m wanting a 24-26mp sensor with IBIS and Exspeed7 processor and AF. I would buy it with those specs. I liked the Z50 and zFc but lack of IBIS made me give the zFc to my wife and sell the z50.
Give me the expeed7, ditch the shutter (but keep a dust shutter like the Z8/9), auto focus that makes use of the expeed7 - I'll be happy. The current sensor works very well. As a D500 owner, it has been replaced by the Z6ii so I think that ship has sailed.
IBIS and other bits that add weight really goes against what I like about the camera: smaller and lighter weight. So "improving" that way kinda defeats its' main use case. So make a Z55 with those features. :)
Oh Matt - How long have you had that Z50 Mk2? We know you're testing it.. HAH! I hope your "predictions" are true. Sounds like a great entry level offering if it comes to pass especially with the Xpeed7. In thinking about going forward, I'd like to see all Nikon cameras have firmware that is more connected and enable sharing of images and videos easier and faster. The people who want these entry level offerings are wanting to "step up" from the cameras on their phones and I feel we're doing that process a dis-service by asking them to sacrifice the convenience of connectivity and speed of sharing to do it by moving to current entry level imaging/video/hybrid products like the Z50. Software (and firmware), if done right, can be reused for multiple platforms so I feel that the investment in making an interface more connected would be a great long term technology investment not just to help transition the entry level consumers but for seasoned pros as well. As for Red, I remain hopeful that Nikon will engage emerging film makers with that high quality technology at a reasonable price point. I'd also be thrilled to see a global shutter in the Z9II.
Hello Nikon, I hope you are watching and listening: I love my Z50. I use it for all use cases. It is due for a refresh. The main improvement should be the processor and speed of the camera. The same sensor or maybe a little bigger would also be a treat. I would then like to see a new D500 replacmeent with improved speed and buffer , IBIS and Cfexpress. I have seen so many people that are still using the D500 and are waiting to upgrade. They want a new camera that can out perform the D500 but still at a very good price point. Not everyone can afford a Z8 or Z9. There are a lot more birding and wildlife photographers out there that can only afford the lower price point then there are those that can afford a Z8 or Z9. Lets get those folks updated. They willl use their current F mount glass but then migrate over to Z !!! Lets go Nikon. Good job Matt. Have a great day.
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The lack of IBIS in my z fc was the reason I sold it.
If I were Nikon, I would give it the highest ISO clean as possible. I would not partially stack it. I would get it to shoot as fast as you can with an improved 20.9 megapixel sensor. Good speed with the XP seven processor on the small sensor Will give it a fast enough read out to shoot very good video and fast sports and wildlife. With mini sports and wildlife situations the lighting can get low. Here is the need for the cleanest SOS you can get I would make it slightly larger to fit the hand better, the D50 was the most comfortable camera I’ve ever held in my life. Update it like a mini Z8\Z6iii. Get it the enel15 battery for sure and a grip . It would make sense to have 2 Z50 models. One that is a more basic lower price like the present Z50 the upper tier model that more pro creators can use .
Since 2 years I have (besides my Nikon D850) a Fuji x-s10 with Fringer NF-FX (as you tested and recommended ~ 2 years ago) as Nikon had no comparable APS-C camera with IBIS . I personally would bei happy with a Nikon "Z 50 II" or however the name will be, with ~ 24-26MP, IBIS , fast, reliable AF and good battery life for APS-C , mainly for stills (same is valid for a real successor of the D850 - Z8 would be nice, being honest, I'm not willing to pay for all the video features I'm not using - and the relatively short battery life remembers me when I had the Minolta Dimage 7i - but maybe I'm the only one)
My opinion is that the z50 II will still be an entry level camera. I think the d500 replacement will something else. The d3000 series used to be the entry level cameras. The d5000 was a step up with the d7000 being the semi professional/ enthusiast cameras. Nikon decided to make the z30 a vlogging camera instead of a cheap entry level. If they put a stacked sensor in the z50 II that will bring the price up a lot. It will no longer be an entry level camera. That's why I think they won't do it. The d500 really sold well. I think they need a dedicated z80 or z500 to take the place of the d500. Give it the larger EL15 battery, the same EVF as the z6 III and a higher resolution LCD screen on the back. Put a stacked sensor in it so it's a fast as the z9. Give it better video features than the z50 or z30. That camera will sell. Even if they sold it for $2000 US it would sell. I think the z9 II and z8 II will both have a global shutter. Cameras basically have two sides to them. There's the hardware side and the software side. If they give more on the hardware side than what the software can do for the time period they can update the firmware as it improves giving you a whole new camera. That means put a faster processor in it than you actually need at the time and whatever else that can be improved with firmware updates. The z6 II never really got the updates we thought it would get. They did improve it some but not to the level we expected. I think the z6 III will be even better as updates come along.
Based on when it was released, the Z5 might be soon :) It came out July 2020, so four years old. Indeed I think we would all love to see that updated soon also :)
An upgrade of Z50 as Z50ii or as some other models like Z80/Z90 will succeed if and only if Nikon does the following: 1. Use APSc sensor of 33MP or 40MP... As competition has set this benchmark. Anything lesser will not go well with the customers... 2.Use slightly bigger body of Z6iii or Z8 sized body. 3. Give dual card slots.CFExpress/XQD & SD cards. 4. Give ENEL 15c battery suited for the bigger body. 5. 6K video capable. 6.EVF as supported in Z6iii or Z8. 7. Good weather sealing to endure outdoor abuse.. 8. Support for third party lenses.. 9. Any other features that will lure and enthuse the customers to remain with Nikon brand....No point in junking D500 if the proposed Z50ii is going to have a sensor in the range of 21-26MP.... Motivation to shift from D500 is possible if the sensor is in between 33-40MP....
I own all of them and the camera I wonder about most I own is the Z f I have that in Indigo Blue and a Leather half case. I take MORE photos of it than WITH it! , I use the Z 50 which I have owned from when it was launched and I still use it EVERYDAY. Now only with the 50-250 kit lens, The Z 8 is the most usable camera I own, and the Z 9 has a big prime lens on it constantly. Nikon Needs a Z 50 II NOW I use the Z 8 and Z 9 MORE on DX than FX. Nikon needs MORE DX to compete!
Unfortunately it makes sense that they will put the dreaded flippy screen on the Z50II and I know how much it kills my shooting experience from using my Zf so I'll probably pass. I passed on the Z6iii because of that screen. But the Z50ii will be yet another vlogging camera so flippy screen here we come. All manufacturers are vlogging camera crazy these days so hopes for a Z500 are pretty low for me. There must be way more vloggers than wildlife shooters (GenZ).
Nikon still has a few surprises up its sleeve . I don’t think they are finished with upgrading the Z 9 and Z 8 ! Let’s hope Red 3D raw is implemented as an option between that and N raw to really turn the competition on its head . Stay tuned!
I'm not sure on the noise to megapixels argument. I've got the XT5 as my second camera now and that has 40 megapixels and it's crop sensor but the low light performance actually is equal of the 26 megapixel XT4 what some of the other Fuji people will tell youI think it would be good to have more megapixels but have the option to shoot lower megapixel photos if you like. I don't understand why Cameron manufacturers don't do that. I know it's probably got something to do with the algorithm in the software that they find a difficult to do but I do like more megapixels but maybe 40 is too many but a sweet spot might be 32 which is what canon seem to have. I think this is a great camera if they were to release one but I don't see the likelihood of them doing it. I was a little bit disappointed in the ZF camera and I didn't buy this camera but I think it would've been a great camera if it was 32 megapixels and that gives you a little bit more cropping. Ability cropping is a cool thing. If you are out and about you don't have to think about the photos as much and you can just crop in and get multipl, one image that said the Z cameras have definitely improved from the earlier models... That said it's probably very close to some of the Z6 specs or Z62. I think stabilisation is a must. It is such a game changer especially if you like have to shoot your kids birthday party indoors and things like that where are you getting down to some lowlight situations outside as well? Maybe you're shooting a sunset but you don't have a tripod stabilisation is such a cool thing should be in just about every camera now. It is not Advanced technology to put stabilisation into a sensor. It should be par for the course.
My Z50 is unusable for fast action, the AF is just awful. My D500 is the only option. I am reluctant to move to full frame but the lack of a suitable body and lenses in APS-C will force me in that direction.
Everyone will have a different idea of what the Z50ii should be! Well really just two camps With Ibis and without ibis Flippy screen is another and of course Xpeed7 trickle down
@@Joe-tq8fr sure you can - that is what I am doing, however 4000 is a really high barrier to entry. With a crop sensor you can save quite a bit of build cost for those customers that primarily want to shot a DX camera. You could probably create 2000 dollar cropped sensor stacked camera with a 7 series processor and the z8 tech . As always it comes down to sell price. Z8 is a baby Z9. The new Z50 body could be a baby Z8
This is, in essence, what I want. I have mirrorless, but still have a D500 that I enjoy using. It's still a great wildlife camera (sorry, no bird AF) with a traditional optical viewfinder. I still love it despite it not being a Z8.
@@vparikh08 I’m def agree about the price. Buying a Z9/Z8 is expensive. I just don’t know if there’s a market for a high-end mirrorless D500 where Nikon could turn a profit. I have a Z8 and would not buy the D500 replacement, unless it presented unique advantages over the Z8 in crop mode. The only advantage I can think of is a higher resolution sensor which sounds nice on paper but optically I’m sure there’s a point of diminishing return when going up in resolution on a DX sensor. I think a lot of Fuji users like the output of the 26MP sensor over the 40MP sensor. The D500 came out at a unique time and it made sense for a lot of photographers to buy it when it was released (pre D850). If Nikon would have led with the D500 replacement prior to the Z9/Z9 they probably would have sold a ton but it would have made Nikon look foolish releasing a crop sensor rather than the flagship Z9. I just can’t see many Z9/Z8 users buying a mirrorless D500 and those users are a huge chuck of Nikon’s user base. I love the D500 and I still have mine. I’d probably buy a Z50ii but it needs to have IBIS/Expeed 7. In this day and age, I won’t buy a camera without built in IBIS/VR.
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I have the Z50 and like it very much for its small form factor and good image quality but a few things should be improved:
- better AF (new processor)
- USB-C
- no 30 min. recording time limit
- a flash button like in the D7200, which is also a function button
- more programing options for the buttons (like in the ZF)
I wish nikon will also introduce a Z500 or Z90. In this camera I would additionaly like to see:
- IBIS
- second card slot
- bigger form factor
- illuminated buttons
- monitor form factor like in the Z8
- (perhaps only electronic shutter and sensor shield)
More megapixels are not very important for me. Good low light capabilities are more important in my optinion.
Flippy screens are not my first choice, but I can live with them.
God please let it be the “D500” option with as much tech as Nikon can justify, including IBIS, pixel shift, 4k video and in-camera charging and great focus. This would be a travel and backcountry sensation given the compact optics it would also allow.
I am a professional Sony A1 shooter but my daughter is just starting college and I am looking at a camera for her. Sony would make sense but their lower end / entry level offerings are very poor. So I find myself looking at Nikon z50 or FC. I think I will go with the FC because I feel the cameras dials will help her learn photography.
I've been eyeing the A6700 😁
I've had a Z50 for 3 3/4 years. It's been a great little travel camera. For the price my only real complaint is the touch "buttons" on the screen. I sight with my left eye. When I do so on the Z50 my nose boops the screen buttons. Always at the worst moments. It drives me nuts. And speaking of the screen. Please STAY with the tilting screen. No "flippy" screen. Oh, and 25 - 30 MP would be nice too.
Touch screen in any camera is a gimmick for me. I turn this feature off the moment I get the camera.
@@andrzejjaniak6849 Depends on the context of the touch functions - menu nav, playback functions, focus point position or eye switching while EVF is in use are tremendously useful things. But I also generally have touch functions turned off for shooting while using the display - aperture, shutter, ISO, touch focus / shutter, no need for those.
I agree. Screen articulation on current model is fine. I don’t like the idea of flipping the view to the side of the camera.
I do think there should be 2 new apsc 1. a basic Z50II for entry level 2. A full stacked similar to XH2s for birding/wildlife. The fully stacked pro level is what I want. Actually I would have got the XH2s if the focus was Z8/Sony/Canon level. Also it lacked great lenses like Nikon has for wildlife. A no 3. wish list but I doubt we would get is a higher pixel density aps-h stacked sensor Z8 pro level type cam.
i love your background, it's so refreshing to see a photographer not in a typical studio/office dark moody tech'y room
The Z50II needs to retain the overall smaller size and lighter weight characteristics and lower price point while adding an updated processor and improved AF. It doesn’t need a resolution bump, dual card slots, or any high performance features. IBIS would be great so long as it doesn’t bulk things up too much. This would make it a great entry level camera, a nice second body for those already in the Z system, and a nice hiking / backpacking / travel setup. We also really need a Z version of the D500, with IBIS, a good sized buffer, dual card slots, and the processor and AF system from the Z6III or Z8 in a body the size of the Z6IIi. I would pre-order that camera today.
For a Z50ii a 24 mp sensor would be the sweet spot allowing for excellent IQ and some crop-ability. I shot on a D7200 apsc 24 mp and it produced excellent IQ upwards of ISO 2000-3000, so there is no reason a Z50ii with a 24 mp sensor (BSI or partially stacked) could not produce similar results. EXPEED 7 for sure, up to 10-15 fps would be enough for entry level. A "Z500" would be similar but offer more fps and perhaps some enhanced features of the Z6iii.
Also Matt - improved viewfinder. D500 users will expect a very nice viewfinder.
Ever since the arrival of my baby grand daughters it's always 11 fps intially on my Z50 with a 40mm f/2 and later 24mm f/1.7 I got so tired of "culling" through the shots after a session I reduced my burst rate to 3 fps 😁 I'm super excited about the Z50 update, I've had the Z50 since 2021 July and enjoying it every bit: the form factor, image quality and autofocus in such a small body. I've been a Nikon Shooter always: have D3200 and D610 and a splattering of F and Z mount lenses. Thanks for the video Matt. Agree burst mode can get tiring; after 15-20 minute session with the kids I edn up with close to 100 shots and more.
We need a D500 type buffer. If you’re going to have fast shooting you need a camera able to deal with all that data.
Illuminated buttons like the D500/D5/D850 would be fantastic ..🦘
Thanks for the video, Matt! I currently own the Z50, and would really appreciate greatly reduced rolling shutter... I'd take that over any improvement in iso performance. Lastly, an updated auto focus would round it out for me.
Hello Matt. Not sure about what will come in the Z50ii or the Z5ii, but I do think that Nikon need entry level mirrorless camera that do not have all the bells and whistle at a cheeper price. These marketed at schools and universities and people just needing a step into the world of Nikon. Like most Nikon Z8 and Z9 users I have tried 30fps to 120fps and to be honest I end up deleting most of the images, as it just take so long finding thr best image. Yes i can see there are times that these setting are great, but only the odd one or two. Better image quality is the better.
I vote for the more D500 style camera. IBIS , Semi stacked sensor, Expeed 7, 20 fps and the big battery. The perfect mate to the 400mm f/5.6.
Seriously doubt the Z50ii would replace a D500. The D500 was a $2000 price point in 2016. You’re not selling its replacement at a $900 price point.
The best way to get it would be a Z7iii at the $3000-3500 price point, with a crop “performance” mode. Effectively you’d get 2 cameras. Not sure if the center portion could readout faster.
I have always thought the Z50 was underrated. It is part of my light weight hiking kit and I have taken some really good photos with it without coming home with sore shoulders from a long hike. I am also comfortable having this camera on a wrist strap unlike my heavier camera. It isn't quite as good as the Z7II, which I also have, but hiking with the Z7II kit is much more grueling.
What I'd like to see improved is to add IBIS, bump up to 24MP, better auto-focus, and a fully articulated screen would be nice.
I’ve had the Z50 since it came out, has been a great camera to learn on. A recent Hockey shoot showed how good it is on all fronts. Shooting on an old Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 still auto focused well for my needs. I have also shot Astro with it and my Tokina 11-16 f2.8 and it’s been great. An Expeed 7 upgrade to the Auto focus would be welcomed, as well as some sort of sensor upgrade (better noise control at higher ISOs?) and they would have a killer little camera body
20-something sensor size is fine if native 4k video is supported and pixel-shift allows an effective 50-something (or higher) megapixel capture on tripod for those certain grand landscape shots that you’d want to have in hi-res.
I think the z50ii will include Expeed7 and other improvements. IBS would be nice along with a semi-stack sensor I’m guessing at the 20.9 MP range. I think they will bring out at the same time a z70 with a semi-stack or fully stack sensor in the 24MP to 33MP, IBS, XQD, and SD slot, Expeed7, 11 technical & 30 electronic FPS to bring it up to a D500 replacement level. Since the z6iii is at $2500 the z70 could be $1500 range.
Hi Matt! Not for me but Z50II with IBIS and faster sensor/processor I'm guessing would be welcomed by many. And a Z500 like the Zf is to Zfc (but still APS-C). I honestly don't know what the market would be for that, however. Indeed, the Komodo price drop is an exciting indication of where Nikon might be taking their new acquisition.
I have a D7500 and what I first noticed about this camera is just how good the sensor performs. The images coming out of this thing are really good, you can almost feel the difference from say the D5600. I put this down to the larger photo-sites on the sensor giving “only” 20.9 MP. But this 20.9 MP is really MP over-shoot for viewing images on a PC or iPad because you only need about 3MP for beautiful images on these devices. Back in the film days I used to print but these days I’m into digital viewing only. Of course, if I get an absolutely fantastic image of something, I’d be tempted to print but for almost all my shots … digital viewing only. This means, at least for me, that massive pixel sensors are a bit of a talking point only. I appreciate that the more costly cameras have better EVF, screens, buffers etc and it’s not just about the sensor. I think the APS-C format is still highly valid and a Z50II that had a 21MP sensor but with great EVF, screen, buffer, focus system, backlit buttons, En-El15c battery, two UHS II cards, IBIS (5 stop), would be a total winner, at the appropriate price of course. Cheers Matt, love your videos.
The best thing Nikon should do is a Z50 and Z500
Iterate on the Z50, lower specs and price say a sub $1000 and innovate on Z500 with semi stacked sensor, ibis, high speed shooting and at sub $2000 price range n pro build body
Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. No one invests in DX these days, maybe except Fuji because they don't have full frame. Even Sony doesn't have a pro body (no, A6700 is not a pro body in the style of D500).
@@andrzejjaniak6849 Sony has never had a pro body in either format
Z50ii is long over due. However if it’s going to be what the D500 was to sports and wildlife shooters then i think it needs ibis.
I’ve had a Z50 for over a year. The weight of the little guy and feel of the grip make it a great travel camera and potentially great back up camera for landscape. I would love to see in body stabilization, 24 mp, and higher resolution EVF. As a nit pick, moving the play button to the top left like other Nikons would also be a reason to upgrade.
If Nikon can use the same stacked APSC sensor as the Fujifilm XH2S in their new APSC camera, whether that is a Z50 II or a Z90, whatever it is called that would be really exciting. A few more DX lenses with brighter apertures, better build quality, but still moderate size/weight would be fantastic as well. Fuji X mount offers some excellent f2.8-4 or f4 constant (with OIS/VR) lenses that I wish Nikon would learn from.
I understand Nikon is focusing on FX cameras (as they should) but a slightly more robust DX lineup would really bolster Z series and grow the audience.
Nikon needs 3 cameras in the new range of APSC:
- Nikon Z50 II, the body of the Z30 but with viewfinder. No on screen buttons. New processor, better AF, better video features, open gate, 4k60, etc. Something like the Fuji XS20, but without IBIS and cheaper.
- Nikon Z30 II, same camera body than Z30. New processor Expeed 7, better AF, better video features. Open gate would be great.
- Nikon Z80, something like the Z8 but APSC sensor and smaller body. Something like Z7 size. Shutterless, high speed sensor. IBIS. Good battery life, sturdy body for pro use. CFexpress Card. A mirrorless D500.
If it is Z50ii with AF like Z6iii has and 14 fps and - ideally - IBIS I'll buy the new camera first thing in the morning. It would be a great travel/wildlife/street photography camera for an amateur like me. I believe it will be the most popular camera around the world given the price is reasonable and Nikon takes care of good light APS-C lenses.
For the Z50 and Zfc the one feature I would like to see is IBIS.
Always nice to see you analyze rumors using industry trends and other real data. Your approach makes a lot of sense. Thanks for your efforts. I have a Z50 as a smaller camera while biking with a capture clip on a backpack strap. I agree on USB-C and the idea of migrating the newer processor in and some other tweaks, while keeping it small and light. Looking forward to see what they do and I expect I'll want to move up to it. 21 mpix is plenty and keeps the pixels larger for low light. I also prefer the existing battery grip over the trend toward retro bodies with their outdated ergonomics.
I am upset that camera manufacturers are not offering tilt and flip-out screens as simultaneous options for their new releases. I hate the flip-out LCD for photography. Detest. Abhor. That’s not for photography. I strongly recommend makers make 2 versions to keep people happy. Further, I like DPReview’s wish list for the II back from their 2019 review: AF tracking not drifting off the subject, better integrated AF, better battery life and a touch joystick - though the 7th processor will address the software side - plus for me IBIS and a trio of new lenses to go with it. That would make for a great camera. Thanks Matt for your appreciation of my most beloved camera brand.
I have a z50 and I like this camera and I'm thinking about selling it. The problem is the lack of good lenses for the APS-C system, e.g. 100-400 f4.5-5.6 vr, 30-300 vr, 35 f1.8 vr, 85, 1.8 vr and some lenses with f 2.8. The camera itself is very good, it may lack eye tracking in birds, but the small number of DX lenses makes me want to abandon this system and go for another one.
Thanks for the info and thoughts Matt. If they go for a Z500 type DX camera, or both, one entry level to get people into the system plus a Z500 type, it then needs to offer a significant advantage to just cropping in-camera , Z7, Z8, Z9, which gives a just under 20mp file. So a 33MP or thereabouts APS-C sensor with the Expeed 7 chip, if they can get over those pixel pitch problems technologically, not so easy. If they can, I bet they would sell loads, I would definitely buy one...
the FujiFilm at 40 MP = to 90MP actually on a full frame (must multiply 40 by 1.5 square which is 90MP). Still a lot MP and the technology is out there, perhaps not stacked but the pixel density has been out there for a while now. We do need a cropped flagship sensor (although we could shoot DX with the Z8 or Z9 and reach a similar amount of MP, couldn't we?).
I love the Z50, but decided to go full frame be ause there is no image stabilization. A large portion of my photography is handheld in lower light, so this is almost mandatory. I still have the Z50 and am considering selling the camera and lenses, but i have a bit of nostalgia.
I would be happy for the Z50II to be an APSC version of the Z6III. It would be nice to update it to a 24MP sensor. In a fantasy mode, I would also love to see Nikon update the Series1, V3 with the new specs. I have both and use them occasionally, but the Z8 overwhelms them in everything it does. It's hard to put that down to use anything else. Just a little ramble for you.
I would like to keep the pop up flash
Good stuff Matt! With 3 new Nikons registered and presumably coming this year,the crop segment have to have the ExPeed 7 and the BIG gap is the D500 replacement to compete with R7(Anwar said they have sold half a million).Mid range crop 50mk2 probably could be first but wait and see.I also RED that something new is brewing, so clear out the old. What about Expeed 7 paired with the Red sensors in a Cinema style Nikon Z( would that have been developed yet?).Talk is around of the Next SuperZOOOOOM ,an update of P1000/950 too.Intruiging but, not too long and we will know what the 3 are.
I have a D500 and a ZF. I'd call it the Z500. They should use the other battery as I now swap D500 to ZF as needed. 10 or so fps is fine for sports. I shoot at low speed. I hardly want that many frames. The Zf tracking is very good for sports and birds. I turn off animal recognition and that stuff. It's too slow for sports. I use the spot or smallest target and move the focus point as needed. Dynamic in video on the ZF is nice and hit the OK button and re-centers. Good video. The DX excels for reach at a lower cost of entry along with less glass required. If they build it with the same approach as the D500 I still use for birds today they can get $1,200-1,600 for it.
Matt, it's interesting that I posted my long comment here BEFORE watching your video. We're thinking the same... yup Z9 II will have additional perks from the RED Cameras technology (at a very competitive price). Hopefully there'll be a much improved AF so to end all speculations (and criticism) over Nikon's having to 'catch up'. Canon and Sony will have to catch up if Nikon plays well its cards at the next round.
I am waiting to see what the Z80 and Z90 models have to offer.
There won't be any. I think it's going to be Z30 and Z50ii, and full frame only.
People want Z8 tech in a Z6ii body with an APS-C 36MP sensor all for $999. It ain't going to happen.
@@bencollins7684 ^---this. Nikon could build a mirrorless D500 with a stacked sensor/IBIS/Expeed 7 but it’s not going to come in under $2k; more like $3k. And then you’re competing with the Z6iii and Z8.
I would absolutely buy a Z50ii as a side piece to my Z8.
I own the Z50 and I am fully invested in DX Glass (mostly 3rd party, of course), so I am waiting for an update at the edge of my seat! Been waiting since the Z9 was announced for that D500 or even a D7500 replacement! That said.... the Z50-II should be the D5500 replacement it always was. Focus on small size (thus no IBIS), Baseline sensor... but Expeed7 with 3-D tracking would be VERY welcome. I still hold that Nikon needs a flagship Z-DX Body... just not the z50.
IBIS, weather sealing, 2 card slots- I’m in. Otherwise, naah 😥
BSI sensor > IBIS. If it does not come with a BSI sensor, i would rather stay with my Zfc
I have a Z50, but would like improved auto focus (Expeed 7), IBIS, USB-C. Less important would be dual card slots, side flip screen that didn't respond to being touched by your nose, battery grip and maybe a head phone socket and a higher mega pixel viewfinder.
Doesn't the screen turn off as you bring your face up to camera??
@@daveyboy6210 Yes, but the buttons on the right of the screen are still active
Interesting material, thank you! For me, the most important information is when there will be real precapture in Z9 in RAW files. 10 frames per second will be enough. JPG files are child's play.
Matt Irwin Photography, cool video keep up the amazing work
I’ve been waiting for a D500 replacement since the Z series came out. My D500 is starting to wear out.
With a partially stacked sensor, IBIS and new autofocus, I am sold on it. I don't think it needs a megapixel jump. 18-21mp is fine. That may help maintain low light performance.
A fully articulating screen, improved EVF and video of 4K@120 would help it surpass the competition. And of course, the USBC.
Ibis and a full articulated screen
Thank you Matt!! A look down to us poor APS-C lovera😂😂. Let's hope for Option #2
Hi Matt, How the possibilities that the Z50ii, Z80, Z90 will come first ?
Hi Matt, that orchid is placed well. 🙂 On your D500 replacement idea, we could see a Z90 with the 45.7 MP full frame sensor cropped, which would make a 30.5 MP APSC. Possible?
I‘m using a ZFC and I love it. But I really wish that he upcoming update include IBIS, the Expeed 7 Processor and far better AF results with moving elements. The resolution needs a small update 24/26 are enough. Price tag should max 1500€
I don't know that there are new cameras coming any time soon. And if that was the case for a Z50 Mark II then why wouldn't Nikon be discounting that one. It seems they're discounting the Z7 II and Z6 II. So maybe a Z7 III but that would be about all I can think of. Z50 Mark II maybe (although probably more like a Z80 as it may be similar to a Z8 or a Z60 so it's more like a Z6 III). I do think the Z5 is going to be discontinued next year though since it's been on sale more this calendar year, than it has been off sale (ie. $1299 or $1399).
I'd prefer a higher end crop sensor, I still shoot my D500,. I believe they also need to work on their AF tracking to bring it up to Canon and Sony.
I'd rather see the improvements you mentioned into a Z7iii. Giving a 45 meg sensor and better and faster autofocus to those who want still photos of the larger file size but don't need all the more expensive features of the Z8. Those wanting DX sizing can then use the same camera in DX mode. So a camera which can solve the needs of both markets.
I do hope Nikon updates both the Z50 and the Z5 in the not too distant future. I owned a D750 and D7500 for years, using the latter almost exclusively for nature photography, and I paid a combined price of $2600 for both in 2018-2019, with the 24-120 F4 with the D750, and both were marketed as pro/semi pro bodies. Now the cheapest mirrorless camera Nikon makes that is considered pro level is the $2500 body only Z6iii? It’s making it difficult for hobbyists to afford to stay in photography.
If the Z50II had IBIS, no touch buttons and is the same size or smaller than the Z50 I'd sell my Z6 full frame equipment for APS-C.
Much easier for biking and hiking :)
Whatever might be the improvement should keep the weight as low as posible, my main desire.
For me the USB-C port was one of the reasons to buy the Z fc instead of the Z50... And the combination of turning and flipping the screen is also an advantage. The Z50II should be more than the Z fc IMO. The current Z50 has actually the same screen option as the Nikon 1 J5 has. IBIS would be nice!
Those flippy screens can piss riiiiiiiiggghhhttt off. They're garbage, and can't be titled while the screen is still in line with the body of the camera.
I don't think Nikon will make Z50ii as D500 replacement. Z50 is the only segment as of now for entry level (Cheaper) option for enthusiasts stepping into mirrorless. Z30 being vlogger focussed, Z50ii will be a minor ugprade from first gen. I expect D500 replacement would be something new segment adapting almost all the features from Z6iii with apsc mode & around 700 - 800$ cheaper.
As alway a most interesting analysis of current trends and speculation. Thanks!
The upcoming ASP-C really constitutes the crossroads for me. IBIS and perhaps Expeed 7 is enough for me to upgrade my Z50. Without these features I will abandon the F & Z DX product lines almost entirely - only exception being the Zfc and the dirt cheap manual third party lenses, it's to much fun to use, can't get rid of it - and use the Z8 for all purposes, including travel/vacation photography.
My only wish on Nikon's APSC cams is IBIS. Maybe add the Expeed 7 too. :D
I would like to see a much improved AF, IBIS, USBC power, focus stacking(the Z50 is the only Nikon body without it), improved battery life, faster frames/second. Price could be increased .
I’m wanting a 24-26mp sensor with IBIS and Exspeed7 processor and AF. I would buy it with those specs. I liked the Z50 and zFc but lack of IBIS made me give the zFc to my wife and sell the z50.
I hope the Z50II is an entry camera. They can make a Z60 instead if the want a D500 replacement. Make a Z60 with same body as Z6III.
Give me the expeed7, ditch the shutter (but keep a dust shutter like the Z8/9), auto focus that makes use of the expeed7 - I'll be happy. The current sensor works very well. As a D500 owner, it has been replaced by the Z6ii so I think that ship has sailed.
IBIS and other bits that add weight really goes against what I like about the camera: smaller and lighter weight. So "improving" that way kinda defeats its' main use case. So make a Z55 with those features. :)
Oh Matt - How long have you had that Z50 Mk2? We know you're testing it.. HAH! I hope your "predictions" are true. Sounds like a great entry level offering if it comes to pass especially with the Xpeed7.
In thinking about going forward, I'd like to see all Nikon cameras have firmware that is more connected and enable sharing of images and videos easier and faster. The people who want these entry level offerings are wanting to "step up" from the cameras on their phones and I feel we're doing that process a dis-service by asking them to sacrifice the convenience of connectivity and speed of sharing to do it by moving to current entry level imaging/video/hybrid products like the Z50. Software (and firmware), if done right, can be reused for multiple platforms so I feel that the investment in making an interface more connected would be a great long term technology investment not just to help transition the entry level consumers but for seasoned pros as well.
As for Red, I remain hopeful that Nikon will engage emerging film makers with that high quality technology at a reasonable price point. I'd also be thrilled to see a global shutter in the Z9II.
When will nikon give us a Zmount 100-300f2.8?
Hello Nikon, I hope you are watching and listening: I love my Z50. I use it for all use cases. It is due for a refresh. The main improvement should be the processor and speed of the camera. The same sensor or maybe a little bigger would also be a treat. I would then like to see a new D500 replacmeent with improved speed and buffer , IBIS and Cfexpress. I have seen so many people that are still using the D500 and are waiting to upgrade. They want a new camera that can out perform the D500 but still at a very good price point. Not everyone can afford a Z8 or Z9. There are a lot more birding and wildlife photographers out there that can only afford the lower price point then there are those that can afford a Z8 or Z9. Lets get those folks updated. They willl use their current F mount glass but then migrate over to Z !!! Lets go Nikon. Good job Matt. Have a great day.
The lack of IBIS in my z fc was the reason I sold it.
Give us 2 usb c 4 . One for charging and the other for data
it should be fragship apc camera, what about ES like tat of z6iii
Why not be bold. Global shutter, 20mp, usb c and expeed 7 or 8. For a new z50II.
Why not !!!📸😀
If I were Nikon, I would give it the highest ISO clean as possible. I would not partially stack it. I would get it to shoot as fast as you can with an improved 20.9 megapixel sensor. Good speed with the XP seven processor on the small sensor Will give it a fast enough read out to shoot very good video and fast sports and wildlife. With mini sports and wildlife situations the lighting can get low. Here is the need for the cleanest SOS you can get I would make it slightly larger to fit the hand better, the D50 was the most comfortable camera I’ve ever held in my life. Update it like a mini Z8\Z6iii. Get it the enel15 battery for sure and a grip .
It would make sense to have 2 Z50 models. One that is a more basic lower price like the present Z50 the upper tier model that more pro creators can use .
Since 2 years I have (besides my Nikon D850) a Fuji x-s10 with Fringer NF-FX (as you tested and recommended ~ 2 years ago) as Nikon had no comparable APS-C camera with IBIS . I personally would bei happy with a Nikon "Z 50 II" or however the name will be, with ~ 24-26MP, IBIS , fast, reliable AF and good battery life for APS-C , mainly for stills (same is valid for a real successor of the D850 - Z8 would be nice, being honest, I'm not willing to pay for all the video features I'm not using - and the relatively short battery life remembers me when I had the Minolta Dimage 7i - but maybe I'm the only one)
Z50 Works Great For Me !!!!!!!!!!!!
Price cuts are a sign of weakness. For production companies, it is also a huge write off on their current RED inventories.
My opinion is that the z50 II will still be an entry level camera. I think the d500 replacement will something else. The d3000 series used to be the entry level cameras. The d5000 was a step up with the d7000 being the semi professional/ enthusiast cameras. Nikon decided to make the z30 a vlogging camera instead of a cheap entry level. If they put a stacked sensor in the z50 II that will bring the price up a lot. It will no longer be an entry level camera. That's why I think they won't do it. The d500 really sold well. I think they need a dedicated z80 or z500 to take the place of the d500. Give it the larger EL15 battery, the same EVF as the z6 III and a higher resolution LCD screen on the back. Put a stacked sensor in it so it's a fast as the z9. Give it better video features than the z50 or z30. That camera will sell. Even if they sold it for $2000 US it would sell. I think the z9 II and z8 II will both have a global shutter. Cameras basically have two sides to them. There's the hardware side and the software side. If they give more on the hardware side than what the software can do for the time period they can update the firmware as it improves giving you a whole new camera. That means put a faster processor in it than you actually need at the time and whatever else that can be improved with firmware updates. The z6 II never really got the updates we thought it would get. They did improve it some but not to the level we expected. I think the z6 III will be even better as updates come along.
At least 8 stops of IBIS needed for aps-c cameras.
Matt, what about the Z5 surely that is due for an upgrade soon
Based on when it was released, the Z5 might be soon :) It came out July 2020, so four years old. Indeed I think we would all love to see that updated soon also :)
I wish that Z50 II got image stabilization and pixels increaset to ~24mp
An upgrade of Z50 as Z50ii or as some other models like Z80/Z90 will succeed if and only if Nikon does the following:
1. Use APSc sensor of 33MP or 40MP... As competition has set this benchmark. Anything lesser will not go well with the customers...
2.Use slightly bigger body of Z6iii or Z8 sized body.
3. Give dual card slots.CFExpress/XQD & SD cards.
4. Give ENEL 15c battery suited for the bigger body.
5. 6K video capable.
6.EVF as supported in Z6iii or Z8.
7. Good weather sealing to endure outdoor abuse..
8. Support for third party lenses..
9. Any other features that will lure and enthuse the customers to remain with Nikon brand....No point in junking D500 if the proposed Z50ii is going to have a sensor in the range of 21-26MP.... Motivation to shift from D500 is possible if the sensor is in between 33-40MP....
Well what's going to be the price. If it's close to Zf, I'd choose Zf over APS -C
I own all of them and the camera I wonder about most I own is the Z f I have that in Indigo Blue and a Leather half case. I take MORE photos of it than WITH it! , I use the Z 50 which I have owned from when it was launched and I still use it EVERYDAY. Now only with the 50-250 kit lens, The Z 8 is the most usable camera I own, and the Z 9 has a big prime lens on it constantly. Nikon Needs a Z 50 II NOW I use the Z 8 and Z 9 MORE on DX than FX. Nikon needs MORE DX to compete!
Unfortunately it makes sense that they will put the dreaded flippy screen on the Z50II and I know how much it kills my shooting experience from using my Zf so I'll probably pass. I passed on the Z6iii because of that screen. But the Z50ii will be yet another vlogging camera so flippy screen here we come. All manufacturers are vlogging camera crazy these days so hopes for a Z500 are pretty low for me. There must be way more vloggers than wildlife shooters (GenZ).
I'd be happy with better auto focus and a 1/8000 shutter
Nikon still has a few surprises up its sleeve . I don’t think they are finished with upgrading the Z 9 and Z 8 ! Let’s hope Red 3D raw is implemented as an option between that and N raw to really turn the competition on its head . Stay tuned!
Z500 please. Thank you. Soon.
I'm not sure on the noise to megapixels argument. I've got the XT5 as my second camera now and that has 40 megapixels and it's crop sensor but the low light performance actually is equal of the 26 megapixel XT4 what some of the other Fuji people will tell youI think it would be good to have more megapixels but have the option to shoot lower megapixel photos if you like. I don't understand why Cameron manufacturers don't do that. I know it's probably got something to do with the algorithm in the software that they find a difficult to do but I do like more megapixels but maybe 40 is too many but a sweet spot might be 32 which is what canon seem to have. I think this is a great camera if they were to release one but I don't see the likelihood of them doing it. I was a little bit disappointed in the ZF camera and I didn't buy this camera but I think it would've been a great camera if it was 32 megapixels and that gives you a little bit more cropping. Ability cropping is a cool thing. If you are out and about you don't have to think about the photos as much and you can just crop in and get multipl, one image that said the Z cameras have definitely improved from the earlier models... That said it's probably very close to some of the Z6 specs or Z62. I think stabilisation is a must. It is such a game changer especially if you like have to shoot your kids birthday party indoors and things like that where are you getting down to some lowlight situations outside as well? Maybe you're shooting a sunset but you don't have a tripod stabilisation is such a cool thing should be in just about every camera now. It is not Advanced technology to put stabilisation into a sensor. It should be par for the course.
Matt the background bokeh on this video is just great to my eyes!
Not too much and yet still burred
Yes not too much Toneh
My Z50 is unusable for fast action, the AF is just awful. My D500 is the only option. I am reluctant to move to full frame but the lack of a suitable body and lenses in APS-C will force me in that direction.
Everyone will have a different idea of what the Z50ii should be!
Well really just two camps
With Ibis and without ibis
Flippy screen is another and of course Xpeed7 trickle down
I'm no expert, but I think a lot of cinematographers will wait for a Komodo with Z Mount - just saying
we want flipout screen and full size hdmi and c express B card
Don’t forget about the Z5 who bares no attention so far
Nikon isn't interested in APS-C mirrorless. Expect USB C, and that's about it.
Until the release the 35mm 1.2 z I don’t care what they come up with! Just being honest.
The Nikon Z9-red..........oooooh. :^)
A dream - won't happen - but one can dream. Take the z8 and crop the sensor. Charge $2000 for it and you couldn't build enough.
Why not just use DX mode on the Z8? Two cameras in one
@@Joe-tq8fr sure you can - that is what I am doing, however 4000 is a really high barrier to entry. With a crop sensor you can save quite a bit of build cost for those customers that primarily want to shot a DX camera. You could probably create 2000 dollar cropped sensor stacked camera with a 7 series processor and the z8 tech . As always it comes down to sell price. Z8 is a baby Z9. The new Z50 body could be a baby Z8
This is, in essence, what I want. I have mirrorless, but still have a D500 that I enjoy using. It's still a great wildlife camera (sorry, no bird AF) with a traditional optical viewfinder. I still love it despite it not being a Z8.
@@vparikh08 I’m def agree about the price. Buying a Z9/Z8 is expensive. I just don’t know if there’s a market for a high-end mirrorless D500 where Nikon could turn a profit.
I have a Z8 and would not buy the D500 replacement, unless it presented unique advantages over the Z8 in crop mode. The only advantage I can think of is a higher resolution sensor which sounds nice on paper but optically I’m sure there’s a point of diminishing return when going up in resolution on a DX sensor. I think a lot of Fuji users like the output of the 26MP sensor over the 40MP sensor.
The D500 came out at a unique time and it made sense for a lot of photographers to buy it when it was released (pre D850). If Nikon would have led with the D500 replacement prior to the Z9/Z9 they probably would have sold a ton but it would have made Nikon look foolish releasing a crop sensor rather than the flagship Z9.
I just can’t see many Z9/Z8 users buying a mirrorless D500 and those users are a huge chuck of Nikon’s user base.
I love the D500 and I still have mine. I’d probably buy a Z50ii but it needs to have IBIS/Expeed 7. In this day and age, I won’t buy a camera without built in IBIS/VR.