Also there is selvala brostorm which has a budget version that is $220 that is very solid, it's one of my favorite decks I have tried so you can always go that route
I still remember the day that someone running Selvala at my LGS got rekt by the non-cEDH deck running Fog with their whole library in hand. They were able to reshuffle Green Sun's Zenith back in but they still managed to lose that game because of a Wheel of Fortune milling them out before it got back to their turn. I easily had the win on my turn as I had both Paradox Engine (rip old friend) and Scepter combo in hand but instead chose to try to storm off manually and ended up intentionally putting myself at exactly 52 life with Aetherflux Reservoir and lasered the other cEDH player as the kid who shut down a cEDH deck with a Fog absolutely deserved the win.
That's also the reason why i still want keep my primal command in my own selvala brostorm: bounce opponents land on top of the library, and if they float mana before, just change the phases and win afterwards.
I loved this episode - my only cEDH deck is a budget Selvala list and I so rarely see her run in videos, and I don't get to play high powered very often, so whenever I get to see her in action it really makes me happy.
I want more Tasigur gameplay. Also a good addition to the channel would be video breakdowns of deck techs and win con scenarios. Thanks for sharing all the content!
Lol, Scott got REKT there. It was a great game, and I love watching Selvala go off. Scott was awesome, Kess did great, and Jeskai Ascendancy looked like it could be super fun.
Guys, respect the Selvala. This is a perfect indication of what happens if you leave her alone. Once Selvala gets on the board she is an incredible value generator and very hard to deal with.
For everyone saying that $500 budget is high that's considerably lower than most best decks in eternal formats, and will always be something you can always enjoy to play, I've started this format with multiple budget decks since most cards from each one can be put into the next one so you always get to use the cards you want after you have a single copy Edit: Also if anyone is looking for a more budget deck the selvala heart of the wilds deck has a $220 budget version that is very strong at cedh tables and one of my favorite budget decks I own still, I have even gotten offers from many people to buy it off of me
I love that budget Kess build! People are so quick to assume that you need to spend $1000+ in order to have anything remotely close to a cedh deck, which is not true. I run a budget cedh K'rrik Doomsday deck that cost me around $100. It definitely can use upgrades, but it is very consistent.
I don't understand why so many people are complaining about a budget cEDH deck being $500. I would be willing to bet that most of them, if not all, own at least one deck in at least one format that is worth at least $500 in paper.
It's just like... have these people tried playing ANY constructed deck that isn't RDW? Off the cuff, standard decks are usually 300-500+, pioneer and modern decks are usually 500-800, and you need a mortgage to play legacy and vintage.
I knew that selvala is a thing in cedh but i didnt know the deck can go KABOOM like that. I looked at the list and it has some pricey staples but can it be built on a budget?
Yeah it can. Of course, it's less consistent, but you can build it for $300-$500 and have it still be a fairly consistent combo deck. If you want, I'd be happy to help you build it.
Bounce it with Tamura Sabertooth and replay it, game state will acknowledge it as a new card that has yet to use it's effect and then lather rinse repeat for ♾
i'm really late to this video, but when misdirection resolves, isn't it no longer on the stack for swan song to target? time stamp is 6:13 i need a judge to explain this to me aaaa
I honestly think the overloaded rift was a bit loose. Having Tasigur in play would have allowed for more interaction, especially with the first mills being Scepter and Tyrant. That throws him back so far.
@@iPhone4Gaddict Not if it means your chances of beating the remaining players drops low enough that you know you can't secure a win, which Apock indirectly argues here.
Wow sel is way stronger than I thought yet again. I might have to consider building her at some point just wow. My dragon storm deck might not be fast enough. Hmmmm. Another great vid guys.
I'm honestly still waiting for the channel's tagline of "We play with the most powerful cards in the most powerful formats" to mean more than 'we play high powered cards/decks in a multiplayer format'. Like yeah, cEDH, cool. But I'm being pitched 'Format*s*' and I'm still just just getting 'Format'. It feels like we're all forgetting Legacy exists, is high powered, is pretty fun and super competitive and interactive.
I gotta be honest, with how often multiple players consistently have multiple low cmc rocks out by T1-2 in most of these games, it's really shocking I haven't remembered seeing Meltdown or Gorilla Shaman in any deck that runs red in any of the lists I remember from this channel, and very few I've seen elsewhere. Resolving a Meltdown for 1-2 in most of those games on T2 would be huge deal and just like other efficient sweepers for problematic low cost powerful enchantments that never seem to be in lists, all the interaction is most reserved for counter-spells because they stop your opponent's counters from stopping you from going off while also stopping them etc. The game play ends up often defaulting to 'if people resolve their fast mana rocks or powerful enchantments they just sort of stay there most games because people don't run removal for them'.
In my opinion people who complaint about 500$ considered budget is strange... In standard, most competitive deck cost 300$+ Also an edh deck can build slowly, i build kess consul around 2 years or so... Probably around 500$ with the current price now... Comparing to standard when the meta rotates around 3-4 months, its still cheap
If you are interested in playing there is a cheaper deck which is selvala brostorm, it has a $220 version that I have tested at many cedh tables and always performs well
@@martinnagy9916 not an overstatement when i have won many games with it, and the threat she presents is insane plus she is my favorite mono green commander next to yisan wanderer bard
To be fair the kess didn’t really do anything special to really say it can hang with cedh decks. Sevala is really the only one who actually did something. Kess in general is just a great commander due to the value she gives you
I find it funny how you recommend the cEDH Nexus community, especially when you wouldn't be able to play a majority of these decks because they're not listed on the cEDH Database.
Unbudgeted CEDH can be up to $5000+ Modern decks are $2K, legacy and Vintage are $10K+ Standard and Pioneer are $500+. I think Tim was doing VERY well for a deck that was only $500.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG yea I know realitive to the format it's cheap but for someone who's only exposure to cedh are these videos, it just feels crazy knowing that what is considered budget in this format is worth more than my entire collection and then some. I mean absolutely no disrespect to tim, especially because I really liked the deck. Sorry if I came across as rude.
Look, I'm not saying $500 isn't budget for a cEDH deck, but saying something like 'don't let anybody say you can't play cEDH on a budget' when that budget is $500 is really disingenuous. Yes, $500 is budget for a cEDH, but for a lot of people who play EDH that is not considered budget. Wasn't going to sat anything, but that closing line really got me steamed.
People who think $500 isn't budget couldn't afford to live in a 3rd world country xD Here, $500 is a budget improved deck. Cedh tops 5000, 7000, and even more. For analysis: local currency, and minimum wage about $1100
There are cheaper decks that also work well, best one is selvala brostorm $220 budget I still own it's so much fun, and if you really want something experimental there is general tazri food chain that is $100
100 card deck and most of the cards can be used for different decks so it's a solid first buy to get started in a format, most eternal formats even have higher prices for the best decks so $500 is very reasonable
Sometimes I think the time between vids is just Ryan thinking of what to say before the game starts
I am almost certain that is the case
@@JesusGarcia-jh8zd drew win the pants off dance off and starts us off
Me: cool a budget deck
*$500 is considered budget*
Me: oh...
Andrew Vitale Mitch: *laughs in $50*
That's a pretty solid budget for a deck since most of the cards in it can be used for other cedh decks
Also there is selvala brostorm which has a budget version that is $220 that is very solid, it's one of my favorite decks I have tried so you can always go that route
@@alexalcaraz9271 I wouldn't call any deck in the triple digits a "budget deck".
@@HarryBuddhaPalm 100 dollars is a pretty decent price considering the precons are around 40
that cyc rift was so brutal lmao, i love it
I still remember the day that someone running Selvala at my LGS got rekt by the non-cEDH deck running Fog with their whole library in hand. They were able to reshuffle Green Sun's Zenith back in but they still managed to lose that game because of a Wheel of Fortune milling them out before it got back to their turn. I easily had the win on my turn as I had both Paradox Engine (rip old friend) and Scepter combo in hand but instead chose to try to storm off manually and ended up intentionally putting myself at exactly 52 life with Aetherflux Reservoir and lasered the other cEDH player as the kid who shut down a cEDH deck with a Fog absolutely deserved the win.
That's also the reason why i still want keep my primal command in my own selvala brostorm: bounce opponents land on top of the library, and if they float mana before, just change the phases and win afterwards.
"and shuffles Green Sun's back into his library" Sees it in his graveyard...
He does it later on.
I loved this episode - my only cEDH deck is a budget Selvala list and I so rarely see her run in videos, and I don't get to play high powered very often, so whenever I get to see her in action it really makes me happy.
Just checked out the merchandise page. As much has I want Paradox Engine back, Braids Did Nothing Wrong!!
Explain?
Revelmonger I’d say there was a difficult decision between which piece of merch to buy
I want more Tasigur gameplay. Also a good addition to the channel would be video breakdowns of deck techs and win con scenarios. Thanks for sharing all the content!
Aw man, I'm always exited to see a Tasigur at the table! Shame he got knocked out so early, I would've loved to see more of that deck
Great game, I love Selvala Brostorm! Even though other decks can be fun, there’s nothing like storming off in mono-green!
4:20
*Ashiok flashbacks*
That Kess build is really awesome. I actually went to the list for some inspiration for my own Tasigur deck! Love going back to watch these.
Lol, Scott got REKT there. It was a great game, and I love watching Selvala go off. Scott was awesome, Kess did great, and Jeskai Ascendancy looked like it could be super fun.
I'm always happy to see Selvala in a video, especially when she wins! Good game boys, and thanks for having Timmy on to represent the Nexus!
The only reason these take so long in between episodes is so they can think of a new game to play to decide who goes first
stolen comment
Stolen comment. Next time, don’t steal the top comment
Good try tho mate
I love those random games you play to decide who goes first
I love that everyone packed up and waited for Folger to finish.
That pact death was painful.
Nice game!
Last time i was this early flash was still legal
Guys, respect the Selvala. This is a perfect indication of what happens if you leave her alone. Once Selvala gets on the board she is an incredible value generator and very hard to deal with.
For everyone saying that $500 budget is high that's considerably lower than most best decks in eternal formats, and will always be something you can always enjoy to play, I've started this format with multiple budget decks since most cards from each one can be put into the next one so you always get to use the cards you want after you have a single copy
Edit: Also if anyone is looking for a more budget deck the selvala heart of the wilds deck has a $220 budget version that is very strong at cedh tables and one of my favorite budget decks I own still, I have even gotten offers from many people to buy it off of me
Mikhaeus has some very cheap versions but it is mono black so it is very weak to graveyard hate.
Got a list for that saucy Selvala deck?
That Pact Gottem was so good!
Its such a breath of fresh air to see all of these new interesting decks being played now that flash is no longer in the format.
My brother has two of these 4 decks so I was really excited to see this
Folger missed the perfect opportunity to cast finale of devastation for x=69420
Great game! Thanks for all you guys do. Any chance to see a Yuriko deck tech or someone piloting a high end Yuriko list on the channel?
Possibly!
I love that budget Kess build! People are so quick to assume that you need to spend $1000+ in order to have anything remotely close to a cedh deck, which is not true. I run a budget cedh K'rrik Doomsday deck that cost me around $100. It definitely can use upgrades, but it is very consistent.
I absolutely love when someone loses to a pact trigger. it's so satisfying to see someone mess em up
Very happy with which deck won here
I don't understand why so many people are complaining about a budget cEDH deck being $500. I would be willing to bet that most of them, if not all, own at least one deck in at least one format that is worth at least $500 in paper.
It's just like... have these people tried playing ANY constructed deck that isn't RDW? Off the cuff, standard decks are usually 300-500+, pioneer and modern decks are usually 500-800, and you need a mortgage to play legacy and vintage.
I knew that selvala is a thing in cedh but i didnt know the deck can go KABOOM like that. I looked at the list and it has some pricey staples but can it be built on a budget?
Yeah it can. Of course, it's less consistent, but you can build it for $300-$500 and have it still be a fairly consistent combo deck. If you want, I'd be happy to help you build it.
Mono colored decks are the cheapest ones for cEDH! You totally can build it on a budget! ^^)/
Awesome. I have a copy of selvala and a casual ezuri deck i can use as a shell so ill consider it
@@aliceshiki8069 How much is a cheapish Godo build?
you all did Scott dirty. LOL
That moment you keep a no lander, but still have four mana turn one
Do you guys play with proxies?
Can we get an F in the chat for our boy Scott? He just wanted to stop a Beast Within and got Cyc Rifted to lose his Pact Trigger. RIP man
4:59, that's a Misty being played, not catacombs.
Tim has no mercy
I've very confused as to what happened to scotts dark ritual. Because if he had it he can pay pact of negations cost. Was it bottomed at the start?
Probably scryed
London mulligan. I’ll make that more clear next time.
Why or how did Tim lose the bird token from Swan Song?
too bad that akiri/kydele deck didn't went off, the list looks spicy!
mono green winning, nice!
How does the Tasigur deck win, exactly?
This one polymorphs into tidespout tyrant and combos off.
I'm curious, what do you guys think of the new companions from ikoria. Do you think any of them will see competitive play.
Yes I do. I don't really think any of them will be used as "companions" but some will actually see play either in the 99 or as the commander.
isn't that a miss play with the misdirection trigger because of the resolution of it. it can not target itself or am I missing something
It cannot target itself, but it can redirect the target of another spell to itself.
Isn't wirewood symbiote a once per turn? Or am i missing something?
Bounce it with Tamura Sabertooth and replay it, game state will acknowledge it as a new card that has yet to use it's effect and then lather rinse repeat for ♾
Dude! What a GG!
RIP in puppies, Scott. Died to pact trigger.
o7
Selvala the patreons hero
i'm really late to this video, but when misdirection resolves, isn't it no longer on the stack for swan song to target? time stamp is 6:13
i need a judge to explain this to me aaaa
*nevermind, i looked it up, turns out it's a legal play and i learned a few extra things as well
Awesome video 😊
I like it when budget means $500
I honestly think the overloaded rift was a bit loose. Having Tasigur in play would have allowed for more interaction, especially with the first mills being Scepter and Tyrant. That throws him back so far.
@@iPhone4Gaddict Not if it means your chances of beating the remaining players drops low enough that you know you can't secure a win, which Apock indirectly argues here.
How long is each game without editing? This is amazing lmao
I'm excited for the next 30 hour long Shahrazad challenge!
Tim really did Scott dirty though
That budget Jess build is really sweet. I could build it with just the cards I have plus 100-150$
lol everybody is take away their stuff and is just waiting for Folger to show the loop to the camera XD
Kess on a budget was still really good.. nice..
HeLL yea you guys are playing my magi lady
Wow sel is way stronger than I thought yet again. I might have to consider building her at some point just wow. My dragon storm deck might not be fast enough. Hmmmm. Another great vid guys.
unanswered u basically always win t4 she's blisteringly fast but mono green so you dont have that many interactions
great game!
I'm honestly still waiting for the channel's tagline of "We play with the most powerful cards in the most powerful formats" to mean more than 'we play high powered cards/decks in a multiplayer format'.
Like yeah, cEDH, cool. But I'm being pitched 'Format*s*' and I'm still just just getting 'Format'. It feels like we're all forgetting Legacy exists, is high powered, is pretty fun and super competitive and interactive.
Who says that’s not planned for the future? Stay tuned for Q3-Q4 this year.
I gotta be honest, with how often multiple players consistently have multiple low cmc rocks out by T1-2 in most of these games, it's really shocking I haven't remembered seeing Meltdown or Gorilla Shaman in any deck that runs red in any of the lists I remember from this channel, and very few I've seen elsewhere. Resolving a Meltdown for 1-2 in most of those games on T2 would be huge deal and just like other efficient sweepers for problematic low cost powerful enchantments that never seem to be in lists, all the interaction is most reserved for counter-spells because they stop your opponent's counters from stopping you from going off while also stopping them etc. The game play ends up often defaulting to 'if people resolve their fast mana rocks or powerful enchantments they just sort of stay there most games because people don't run removal for them'.
500$ is budget?
I made a $150 Budget Anje deck, wins max turn 6, usually 2-4
HELL YES! My girl Selvala taking the W, Brostorm is my favorite cEDH deck.
In my opinion people who complaint about 500$ considered budget is strange... In standard, most competitive deck cost 300$+
Also an edh deck can build slowly, i build kess consul around 2 years or so... Probably around 500$ with the current price now... Comparing to standard when the meta rotates around 3-4 months, its still cheap
Woooo!!!!!!!!!
See, 500$ "budget" decks is why I'll never play this format :P cool to watch though!
If you are interested in playing there is a cheaper deck which is selvala brostorm, it has a $220 version that I have tested at many cedh tables and always performs well
Alex Alcaraz ‚always performs well‘ is a bit of an overstatement in my opinion.
@@martinnagy9916 not an overstatement when i have won many games with it, and the threat she presents is insane plus she is my favorite mono green commander next to yisan wanderer bard
You can always use proxy cards if your playgroup is okay with it :)
To be fair the kess didn’t really do anything special to really say it can hang with cedh decks. Sevala is really the only one who actually did something. Kess in general is just a great commander due to the value she gives you
I find it funny how you recommend the cEDH Nexus community, especially when you wouldn't be able to play a majority of these decks because they're not listed on the cEDH Database.
No sushi hulk! Yay!
Nice
only $500 is a budget deck ?
BROSTORM RIDES AGAIN
I think we have very different definitions of "budget"
Cedh on a budget means for me under 80 dollars so my only deck is Anje.... Animate dragon
Holy shit, Selvala is so OP
Please make a video of mono color gameplay. Kirrik vs Urza vs Selvala vs Godo
We are looking into it already :)
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG thanks power mtg! By the way love your content and vids!
Manifold Key? More like Mana Vault Key, amirite guys
Can we talk about how a budget cedh deck is **500** dolars? That's absolutely insane, I don't think I wanna know how much a deck that isn't budget is
Unbudgeted CEDH can be up to $5000+
Modern decks are $2K, legacy and Vintage are $10K+
Standard and Pioneer are $500+.
I think Tim was doing VERY well for a deck that was only $500.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG yea I know realitive to the format it's cheap but for someone who's only exposure to cedh are these videos, it just feels crazy knowing that what is considered budget in this format is worth more than my entire collection and then some. I mean absolutely no disrespect to tim, especially because I really liked the deck. Sorry if I came across as rude.
Look, I'm not saying $500 isn't budget for a cEDH deck, but saying something like 'don't let anybody say you can't play cEDH on a budget' when that budget is $500 is really disingenuous. Yes, $500 is budget for a cEDH, but for a lot of people who play EDH that is not considered budget. Wasn't going to sat anything, but that closing line really got me steamed.
Selvala is my best deck
No force of will this game!
Rip Scott
People who think $500 isn't budget couldn't afford to live in a 3rd world country xD
Here, $500 is a budget improved deck.
Cedh tops 5000, 7000, and even more.
For analysis: local currency, and minimum wage about $1100
Bring back TnT medium Green!
Typical selvala win: participate a bit to the game, then suddenly win "out of nowhere"
I spent $1500 on my cedh deck and I thought that was budget.
Tasigurr 😭😭
I love your videos but, 500 dollars isn't "budget" for a lot of people, for me it's almost 3 months of rent sadly...
$500 budget deck. This format is absurd...
There are cheaper decks that also work well, best one is selvala brostorm $220 budget I still own it's so much fun, and if you really want something experimental there is general tazri food chain that is $100
Have you tried playing standard and realized all of the competitive decks are $300+, unless you're playing RDW, yet? Or Pioneer? Or Modern?
A budget version totaling only $500
Hermann HC in a 100 card deck, you have to expect a high “budget”.
100 card deck and most of the cards can be used for different decks so it's a solid first buy to get started in a format, most eternal formats even have higher prices for the best decks so $500 is very reasonable
I actually tilted when he let the dreadnought die, since shared summons is a instant speed tutor
But then what? No flash for the quirion ranger
tfw aggro technically wins
"Only $500"... bruh.
@cEDH Nexus hes complaining about how they call 500 budget. When it definitely is *stares at my imperial seal*
This was my first experience with cEDH and all I can say is thank god I don’t play this. I’m sure some people like it, it just looks unfun to me
All these people tapping their cards to the left...BAH
500 is budget 🤣
Every other deck at that table was $2K+. I'd say $500 is pretty budget.
500 is not budget