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  • The DC20 Kickstarter is NOW LIVE! ⏬More Below⏬
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Комментарии • 137

  • @theDMLair
    @theDMLair 5 месяцев назад +92

    DC20 ftw baby!

    • @hawkeyesblue9254
      @hawkeyesblue9254 5 месяцев назад +2

      Let's go!!!

    • @tenbatsuz3002
      @tenbatsuz3002 5 месяцев назад +1

      Between DC20 and The Gamers 4 Dorkness Rising on Kickstarter I feel like I am living inside a dream, and I'll be waking up to a very bright future!!

  • @ClarkyClark
    @ClarkyClark 5 месяцев назад +28

    It's been an hour and it's already funded 10X. Whoohoo! Let's go!

    • @gildrax69
      @gildrax69 5 месяцев назад +1

      Let’s get it to 100x

  • @dinkleberg684
    @dinkleberg684 5 месяцев назад +14

    Years ago I made a large google doc for Savage Worlds home brew rules. DC20 is what I wanted those house rules to be. Definitely going to buy the foundry modules when they come out

  • @benfisher4783
    @benfisher4783 5 месяцев назад +15

    I backed in the first minute. Very excited.

  • @psychohistorian4431
    @psychohistorian4431 5 месяцев назад +2

    I have been a fan of Dungeon Coach before DC20 was ever a thing, but I just realised that never since the start of this adventure have I realised how crazy this all actually is.
    It is so inspiring to see someone achieve their dream against all odds through passion alone.

  • @Azhiell
    @Azhiell 5 месяцев назад +2

    Sadly, i'm brazilian, our currency have 20% (sometimes less) of dollar's value. 65$ is like 330$ for us (and our minimun wage is 6,42$ per hour). Incredible project, maybe someday i'll can afford it

  • @ramblingryan6466
    @ramblingryan6466 5 месяцев назад +8

    Backed.. So excited for you.

  • @cableman
    @cableman 5 месяцев назад +7

    It's finally here, Let's Goooo!!!

  • @DestinoIncerto-l8s
    @DestinoIncerto-l8s 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hey DC, I hopping that you read this comment because of how much effort It took, so here goes nothing.
    I created a homebrew class to DND called hermit, it is a class that can cast only concentration spells with a special resource called endurance points, it gains those points by getting hit our failing checks/saves/missing atacks. furthermore, it can use it's constitution modifier in attacks or spells by spending EP.
    All it's subclasses are based on the color wheell of magic the gathering.
    If you found this super interesting, let me know, I'd love to see some of those concepts on dc20.
    I made the class and subclasses all the way to lvl 20. Made my best to make it balanced and fun! It's a tank/support class.

    • @efg896
      @efg896 5 месяцев назад +1

      I love mtg and d&d. Since both were made by wotc, those kind merge well!

  • @hawkeyesblue9254
    @hawkeyesblue9254 5 месяцев назад +6

    Backed...Let's Go!

  • @dwgautier
    @dwgautier 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hopefully we hit 400K on the first day so we can get a look at Spellsword!

  • @chen-gongfu
    @chen-gongfu 5 месяцев назад +1

    First time backing a project and fortunately it is DC20. Lessgo

  • @LutherGary17
    @LutherGary17 5 месяцев назад +1

    I made my pledge! Woo-hoo! Let's go! Over 460,000 already!

  • @mve0172
    @mve0172 5 месяцев назад

    I have been working (very slowly) on a new D20 system myself. Based on this clip your system has many of the improvements over D&D that I intended to implement as well.

  • @zacharyharwell351
    @zacharyharwell351 5 месяцев назад

    Probably not what your mind jumped to Alan, but your PDF 5e-to-DC20 conversion has me over here planning "DC20: Star Wars" using a 5e Force User class I found homebrewed online. From there I plan on creating all of my blasters, thermal detonators, and aaaaaalll of the rest of it. I haven't felt so inspired to run MULTIPLE campaigns in a very, very long time

  • @AnoterosHershy
    @AnoterosHershy 5 месяцев назад

    I'v been working on a d20 system for a while now. A friend of mine told me about DC20 and i'm reading through the playtest rules now. This incorporates many similar ideas I have had and many more. It almost feels like I wasted my time but I'm stoked to see how DC20 continues to evolve.

  • @iremainteague5653
    @iremainteague5653 5 месяцев назад +2

    Cant believe it funded so quickly!

  • @dylanhyatt5705
    @dylanhyatt5705 5 месяцев назад +2

    Suoergeek liked this suggestion - the way I'd run that is standard Monsters get 3 AP and 1 Reaction, Boss Monsters get 4 AP to use freely as PCs

  • @Xhalo1183
    @Xhalo1183 5 месяцев назад +2

    Backed. Went with higher tier than normal as a way of paying the Archive tax.

  • @chriscampion6721
    @chriscampion6721 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great value at the Deluxe level. Those dice are fire and the system really makes choices the focus.

  • @CaptnJack
    @CaptnJack 5 месяцев назад +2

    Side by side, in my Fifthworld System there are similar concepts, and yet different. I guess we all tap into the Universal source now and then.

  • @MostcallmeTim
    @MostcallmeTim 5 месяцев назад +1

    Backed! Hopefully some of the money goes towards developing a mobile app or something. These days I just show up to 5e games with only my phone. I don’t want to go back to paper 📝 😢

  • @nathanaelthomas9243
    @nathanaelthomas9243 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’m super excited for DC 20!

  • @jpri26
    @jpri26 5 месяцев назад

    This is incredible. As soon as there’s a character sheet to use on Roll20 I’m gonna start playing

  • @olivierRH
    @olivierRH 5 месяцев назад +1

    Super excited about this! I've been on board ever since you mentionned it

  • @linkatronic
    @linkatronic 5 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats on the success Coach!

  • @gabrielaugusto7761
    @gabrielaugusto7761 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is there any chance of coming to Brazil? The tabletop role-playing community is huge there and it would certainly be very successful.

  • @agilemonk6305
    @agilemonk6305 5 месяцев назад +2

    DC20 is and will be the Fantasy TTRPG of 2025. ❤

  • @DansDays415
    @DansDays415 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lets gooo! Well done Alan! Proud of you man!

  • @tanyabowers-dean2345
    @tanyabowers-dean2345 5 месяцев назад

    I’m excited to see how successful the Kickstarter is already! Let’s goooooo!

  • @jordangreer2249
    @jordangreer2249 5 месяцев назад

    Looking so good!

  • @marcusjones6098
    @marcusjones6098 5 месяцев назад

    It has been 2 days and it is $800k+. When you said hitting a million would be great, I thought it was an optimistic projection, but, at this rate, I think it's a safe bet.

  • @dandyspacedandy
    @dandyspacedandy 5 месяцев назад +1

    for a moment i felt that having your primary stat simply be your highest stat would lead to impossible to conceptualize combos, and in a small effort to test my assumption, i thought "strength based bard". for a moment i was convinced there was very little to be done, maybe a concept that overlaps with agility with your dancing bard concept. but then creativity hit me like a sack of bricks.
    its just some dude who has good rhythm and fights to the beat of the music he imagines, or straight up listening to music if in a modern setting. i would be lying if i said my immediate thought afterwards wasnt lethal league's "ain't nothin like a funky beat" lmao

  • @caosisaac
    @caosisaac 5 месяцев назад +2

    It's time let's goooooo!

  • @WakingNews
    @WakingNews 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is the most dynamic system I've ever seen for TTRPGs. Consider it backed and I'd love to make a video to help promote it. Let me know if you're willing. 👍

  • @christianfulk
    @christianfulk 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ive been working on a ttrpg system for the past year and a half with an almost identical action point system. My game is very much a rules light version, and has its own races / race progression along with its own rethought magic system. It's a completely different game in its own right, but it makes me happy to see that people enjoy the idea of multiple actions on both your turn and your enemies. The game's name is OneShard, and will hopefully be on Kickstarter within the next year. Love what your doing with DC20, and cant wait to play it myself.

  • @SteveAkaDarktimes
    @SteveAkaDarktimes 5 месяцев назад

    your marketing is top notch. Congratulations on independence and getting funded.

  • @JottoHearthStone
    @JottoHearthStone 5 месяцев назад +1

    Its FINALLLY HERE!!!!!!!!

  • @unfortunate_error
    @unfortunate_error 5 месяцев назад +2

    💜🐲💜 Let’s GO!!! 💜🐲💜

  • @henri7120
    @henri7120 5 месяцев назад +3

    LETS GOOOOO

  • @WylochsArmory
    @WylochsArmory 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Kickstarter lists the staff but that list doesn't include the artists. Has the art been done at level of effort?

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  5 месяцев назад

      I’ve never seen a Kickstarter page list off all contractors involved. There are 13 artists, 15 contracted writers, editors, feedback etc. So all kickstarters I’ve seen just post the “Team” as those that work on the actual company / directors etc
      I hope that clears things up 👍🏼

    • @WylochsArmory
      @WylochsArmory 5 месяцев назад

      @@TheDungeonCoach Incredible!! Backing now...

  • @louis1372
    @louis1372 5 месяцев назад +1

    GoGo DC20 💜💜💜

  • @MrShdutchy
    @MrShdutchy 5 месяцев назад

    I am now a backer. And its about to hit (AU)$1M!!

  • @hw2471
    @hw2471 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome work!

  • @luiswi
    @luiswi 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can you compare DC20 to pathfinder second edition? I feel like there are a lot of similarities (like the 3/4 action system) but everything is even more refinded, with pf2e being kind of in the middle between dnd and dc20.
    I'd really appreciate a video covering that topic.

  • @m3rcier808
    @m3rcier808 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just backed! w00t!

  • @rekcroom
    @rekcroom 5 месяцев назад

    Yeah this sold me. I’m getting in on this for sure!

  • @josequiles7430
    @josequiles7430 5 месяцев назад

    I've only skimmed through some of the sections of the free pdf but honestly it looks incredible. Would love to try it out

  • @matthewlenard8346
    @matthewlenard8346 5 месяцев назад

    I love character creation the most.

  • @DavidalTablero
    @DavidalTablero 5 месяцев назад +1

    If you need a spanish translation, just give me a call.

  • @dungeonsanddorms
    @dungeonsanddorms 5 месяцев назад

    Excited as I am for DC20?! 🐲 Im running a session for Alpha 7.0 and looking for a few brave souls to test it out with me. Let’s make some epic stories! Comment below or shoot me message if you want to learn more!

  • @jf649
    @jf649 5 месяцев назад +1

    Backed ❤

  • @alexabel8010
    @alexabel8010 5 месяцев назад

    This should be waayyyy more popular imho. I've been racking my brain over one thing though... The "Commander" class is cool and all... But how the hell do I roleplay a *Commander* ? Wouldn't that just be a more experienced fighter?
    Wouldn't the only context for that character be war-based? I feel like the only avenues could be:
    - commander in training
    - leader of the group
    - nerdy battle strategist i.e. Shikamaru from Natuto
    I'd love an answer to this question

  • @brandonteppelin6353
    @brandonteppelin6353 5 месяцев назад

    Looking good!
    Love anything that lets you get away from d&d.
    Starve wotc and hasbro.

  • @mattalford3862
    @mattalford3862 5 месяцев назад

    Finally, I was first to like a video 😄 I've been waiting a long time for DC20 and I'm very happy for you DC. I know this will be a blast to play.

  • @Azazel226
    @Azazel226 5 месяцев назад

    The kickstarter livestream was epic!

  • @viienn
    @viienn 5 месяцев назад

    Idea for dc20
    what if, any ghost like monster has an attack called "nightmare" (or something similar) so when a ghost does that specific attack on someone, that player has to roll a mystical save (mental save) if the player fails, the player now has the condition called "insomnia or nightmare" for 1 or 2 days.... So any time that player tries to sleep, that player gets nightmares and can't sleep since that ghost is now in thier nightmares (giving them exhaustion for the next whole day)
    Or maybe there is an Evil spellscaster who has a spell called "nightmare", so if a player fails the save against it, and tries to sleep, they relive past traumas in nightmares, or they see all the other party members/loved ones dying in the nightmare, leaving them unable to sleep.
    As now these nightmares could be used for roleplay aswell, giving players something to talk to eachother about and bond
    The nightmare condition would ware off after one day or something, so its not deadly)
    And while the party was sleeping, that player was in one place, not attacking or being attacked, that player mechanically has benefits of a short rest, (being healed and stuff) but the lack of sleep leaves them exhausted

  • @MemphiStig
    @MemphiStig 5 месяцев назад

    Looks like your ks blew up. Good job!

  • @minimoose7890
    @minimoose7890 5 месяцев назад

    Yes yes yes!

  • @Aranesque
    @Aranesque 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hello! Any chance we get a video for DMs? All the Player Character stuff sounds interesting, but how will DC20 would work from the other side of the screen?
    For example: how do you run encounters? Because I don't really want to track 4 to 6 enemies with 4 AP each and having to track each time they use actions outside their turns. Do monsters use a different action system so I don't need to have an excel sheet? 😅

    • @commonviewer2488
      @commonviewer2488 5 месяцев назад

      On another comment, Dungeon Coach replied that a video on monsters is coming soon

  • @stordarth
    @stordarth 5 месяцев назад

    I backed the deluxe group bundle. Might finally be time to put 4th edition away for something more fluid and free for my players.

  • @TonyMackSays
    @TonyMackSays 5 месяцев назад +1

    Comment for the algorithm

  • @emessar
    @emessar 5 месяцев назад +1

    Did you mean to put a link to the kickstarter in the dooblie doo? There's a line for "DC20 Kickstarter:" ... but no link ... :(

  • @CrankyOldNerd
    @CrankyOldNerd 5 месяцев назад

    I hope you’re successful. It looks like you will be. I just hope you can deliver except for me without foundry support. We really can’t play in our current environment. If I was able to play in person like the old days, it would be worth but without a foundry option, as part of the Kickstarter is part of the stretch goal for me I’m not gonna be able to invest at this time.

  • @PackTactics
    @PackTactics 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dude. The link to your own kickstarter isn't even in the description or comments.

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the heads up, bro. I just fixed it!!

  • @johncarroll3970
    @johncarroll3970 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just backed, will there be VTT support

  • @goattron
    @goattron 5 месяцев назад

    I’m excited about this project. Do you think combat will move faster?
    My main issues with 5e that it feels like 2 distinct game systems one is this open improv where you can try to do almost anything sort of game, then you drop into combat everything slows down dramatically and becomes this rigid rules system that can take a long time.

  • @Vognar6
    @Vognar6 5 месяцев назад

    Hi! I'm totally new here, sorry if this has been answered already. So, I'm reading the rules pdf and page 28 it says that 20 is an auto success. Page 29, the tip says you shouldn't call for impossible checks. Where I'm confused is that if you don't call for impossible checks, then the auto success on 20s is useless, because a 20 would have success anyway. If you want the auto success on crit rule to be useful, you have to call for impossible checks. Did anyone else is confused by that too?

    • @hunteriv4869
      @hunteriv4869 5 месяцев назад

      My interpretation is it means "impossible physically" not "impossible mathematically." For example, you could have a situation where it's *possible* for someone to, say, hit a target with an arrow while blind in a hurricane, but the various penalties and level differences mean that rolling a 20 wouldn't actually reach the DC (i.e. you have a +3 to hit, -5 for being blind, -5 for the hurricane, and the PDC is 15...your normal max result is 13, but a nat 20 means you still hit). In this case, the 20 makes it work out anyway, so you still have a 5% chance of success even against really difficult odds or an overwhelming enemy.
      Hitting the *moon* with an arrow, however, is outright impossible. It's not a matter of DC...the character isn't physically capable of the task. In D&D, the bounded accuracy system basically implies you have a 5% success chance on *every* action, no matter how absurd. Anyone who's actually played D&D, however, already recognizes that the DM has "veto" rights on impossible tasks, so this is just DC20 specifying that same basic concept.

    • @Vognar6
      @Vognar6 5 месяцев назад

      @@hunteriv4869 That makes a lot of sense, thank you for that. Maybe the rules need your clarifications for dummies like me xD

  • @joshuawinestock9998
    @joshuawinestock9998 5 месяцев назад

    Pledged!
    But, I mean, that tagline, "a new evolution in TTRPGs"... c'mon? Its not Blades in the Dark, it's not Spire, its just a really well designed 5e clone. And I'm totally here for that, that's what I'm looking for!

  • @BIGBENMACDOUCE
    @BIGBENMACDOUCE 5 месяцев назад

    DC20 FTW !!!

  • @zTom_
    @zTom_ 5 месяцев назад

    May the Algorithm Gods push this video into everyone's feed!!
    ⚡🙌⚡
    Let's GOOOOO

  • @joshamalistandi4902
    @joshamalistandi4902 5 месяцев назад

    Whooo!!!

  • @TolulenePictures
    @TolulenePictures 5 месяцев назад

    Just heard about this today. After all the daggerheart investigations, this resonated SO MUCH. Its just so smooth and simple.
    Is there a Virtual Tabletop to go with it?

  • @chasecurt69
    @chasecurt69 5 месяцев назад

    Can you back the kickstarter to get the earlybird rewards, then increase your pledge later and still have the earlybird perks?

  • @TheDragonheart93
    @TheDragonheart93 5 месяцев назад

    will this be on foundry vtt?

  • @arcanjl
    @arcanjl 5 месяцев назад

    I backed your project because I love what you are doing. But unless it’s going to a virtual table top like foundry, I’ll never to get to play it :-(

  • @Marpaws
    @Marpaws 5 месяцев назад

    Can we have a confirmation of how many ancestry points you gain at level 4 and 7 ? it just says points in the rules of the quickstarter.

  • @Knight_Marshal
    @Knight_Marshal 5 месяцев назад

    I am at work, but soon.

  • @bamboozledgreatcrowd8982
    @bamboozledgreatcrowd8982 5 месяцев назад +1

    I been hearing a lot about character builds but nothing about monsters like do they have action points as well.

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  5 месяцев назад

      For sure! I will have a video on this coming out soon! But yes, they also have action points, and there’s also other ways to use monsters in both more and simple ways

    • @bamboozledgreatcrowd8982
      @bamboozledgreatcrowd8982 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheDungeonCoach Does the core book include monsters

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  5 месяцев назад

      @@bamboozledgreatcrowd8982 the core book does not have monsters in it, no, but it does come with a free monster starter pack, complete with example monsters and how to build them
      there is a possibility, though that that content could be combined into the core rules, though. And then the answers to that question would be yes.

  • @Wertbag99
    @Wertbag99 5 месяцев назад

    Will there be VTT integration?

  • @stoneworkmegapup215
    @stoneworkmegapup215 5 месяцев назад

    You forgot to put in the link to your Kickstarter.

  • @Lone_Wolf1022
    @Lone_Wolf1022 5 месяцев назад

    When is the core DC20 rulebook available to purchase online?

    • @commonviewer2488
      @commonviewer2488 5 месяцев назад

      Kickstarter says October. The 0.8 Beta is currently available as well

  • @ivancarabano
    @ivancarabano 5 месяцев назад

    Can it be played using theater of mind or does it need a map and miniatures?

  • @paleomancer13
    @paleomancer13 5 месяцев назад

    🎉

  • @anderslundtoft2315
    @anderslundtoft2315 5 месяцев назад

    I dont get the early plegde system.
    To me it seems that the cheapest version, the PDF for 40$ comes with a free hardcover book?
    And the hardcover for 65$ comes with a free Pdf. Did i just buy a haedcover book for an “overpriced” cost? Om a Long time patron to DC and loves just content, but the money is pretty small in my life.

  • @sportsbet
    @sportsbet 5 месяцев назад +1

    Convinced to get this. Awesome work!

  • @amnesykray7054
    @amnesykray7054 5 месяцев назад

    Hi Coach, how do i get the early bird free stuff ? Kickstarter wants to charge me for it :/
    I love your work and would love to share it with my players but i have some doubts...

  • @mae478
    @mae478 5 месяцев назад

    Do you guys intend to translate to any language? (im from brazil)

  • @charger1369
    @charger1369 5 месяцев назад

    Comment for algorithm

  • @VenzyntRoleplay
    @VenzyntRoleplay 5 месяцев назад

    Will the digital character creator be available by some other method in the future?

    • @Ixarus6713
      @Ixarus6713 5 месяцев назад

      I hope D&D Beyond add it to their creators. Last time I checked they had multiple sheet types... So maybe it'll be on that at release.
      Agreed though, the PDF's are difficult to edit.

  • @moocow7565
    @moocow7565 5 месяцев назад +1

    😎😎😎🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🕺🕺🕺✨✨✨

  • @nexushivemind
    @nexushivemind 5 месяцев назад

    The link to the kickstarter has dissapeared.

    • @nexushivemind
      @nexushivemind 5 месяцев назад

      Also please no psionics or artificer in the core rulebook as milestone, just leave it for the dmg under optional rules or some expansion

  • @f.a.santiago1053
    @f.a.santiago1053 5 месяцев назад

    Have you thought of the game's actual name? or will it just be DC 20?

  • @vtmyte2474
    @vtmyte2474 5 месяцев назад

    Haha, the project is exploding.
    Unfortunately I can only afford the Core atm.
    Is the Psychic going to be in there?
    I haven´t seen any update on that for a while

  • @misterfevillord1588
    @misterfevillord1588 5 месяцев назад

    Comment

  • @ethanhiett7815
    @ethanhiett7815 5 месяцев назад

    Backer #108

  • @BrotherHood-xh9sg
    @BrotherHood-xh9sg 5 месяцев назад

    I really wonder how healing & tanking is done in this game. I love those roles in MMO's, but they are done horribly in 5e. I winder if DC20 solved the issues with these roles.

  • @samusamu5342
    @samusamu5342 5 месяцев назад

    Comet

  • @bishopwerst
    @bishopwerst 5 месяцев назад

    I’m sorry but I can’t. I am a new player and learned to DM 5th edition for my friends. It took a lot to learn for me, and I don’t wanna commit to learning another system. Good luck though on this project!

    • @sidequest2230
      @sidequest2230 5 месяцев назад +1

      The vast majority of tabletop rpg's dont require nearly as much commitment as 5e. 5e is fun as hell but if commitment is your worry than a lighter system might be what you'd prefer running even if it isnt dc20

    • @bishopwerst
      @bishopwerst 5 месяцев назад

      @@sidequest2230 Thank you. Though I already committed to 5e since that is what my friends wanted to play.

    • @alexabel8010
      @alexabel8010 5 месяцев назад +1

      In the exact same place, homie. Some advice from someone who feels the same way. When you run into all the troubles that 5e gives, DC20 will be a decent alternative and I doubt it'll talk nearly as long to learn.
      Hope you have fun!!

  • @shutupkylee
    @shutupkylee 5 месяцев назад +2

    Curious where the art comes from before I back