My record collection has grown almost by accident and I’m worried I’m not caring for them properly. I’d love more videos about cleaning and storing records, even an entire playlist.
I used to buy Nagaoka anti-static inner sleeves and the opening of the sleeve was at the top, this went inside the cardboard sleeve with the opening to the side and this was all within a heavy duty outer sleeve with the opening at the top (this provided a "maze" effect to keep the dust out. I used to work in a record shop and had many people tell us not to stand the records on their edge as the grooves would sag (LOL). Then we had to explain that storing them flat was not a good idea as the weight of the records would probably cause the discs to sag.
I used to store my records behind the jacket too, but then I noticed that I was just denting the record behind it on my shelf in the shape of the record (my records are about as loose as yours) along the tops of the jackets. Now I keep all LPs in a single sleeve in the jacket or if they're gatefold, just drop them between the gatefold.
Like seeing the labels but I miss seeing the back covers of the jacket. Nit picky I know but hey,I'm a pain in the ass that way. Love your vids as always.
I love the MO FI sleeves , took a while to get my whole collection done, but now I just have to sleeve the nea ones I get. I like the 3mil outter sleeves too, I hate the sticky flip ones
Thanks for this video, it helps since I have a collection (unintentionally) and need to know how to care for them, my albums are from the late 60's thru the 80's bought at the time and they are all in really good shape some being 60 years old they deserve respect. 😊 Thanks
I aim to use either 2 or 3 mil outer sleeves, it depends on how large the jacket is because sometimes they can be a bit oversized, especially if it’s a Stoughton tip on style jacket. For inners, I always use MoFi or MoFi-esque sleeves. Many companies do their own brand of them using the same material and at during any given time of the day, they can be slightly cheaper but they work extremely well. Disckeeper also does some anti static sleeves for about $15 for a pack of 50 and I’ve used those for many years and they work very well. Thanks for sharing, cheers!
For my absolute top tier Rare collectable records, I use MOFI sleeves for the vinyl, then insert in the back like you (no ring press), then I place a Blakes Crystal Sleeve over the whole album, then place it in a resealable crystal sleeve for added protection. Then I store them in my LP Flight Cases. Nice !! I love my record collection !
I use the protective sleeves as you do. I want to hear about how people prefer to remove and replace the disc in the inner sleeve - protective or paper. I grab the edge dead wax between thumb and forefinger and lift it out vertically until I can lay it on my other hand, touching only the edge and spindle hole. To replace, I again flip it up so I can grab it by the outer dead wax and slowly slip it down into the sleeve. My belief is that removing it horizontally, as most do, leads to more scraping on the inside of the sleeve than if you carefully lift it our vertically - escpecially if you press very slightly on the edge of the outer cover to bow it open just a bit. I think my method will minimize - not eliminate - the many tiny spider web scratches that accumulate even on well cared for records.
All good stuff Dillon. One thing I should mention that you will thank me for down the line when it comes especially for special packaging or for many of the 12" singles are the flexible PVC pouches. They are notorious for ruining records stored in them, and the records next to them on either side. It's been discovered that to get them flexible, they used a lot of plasticizer in making them and they are discovered to leach, badly and thus onto the LP itself stored inside and to adjacent ones. Early signs are an iridescent oil like swirls will first appear on the record surface. Let it go long enough it will affect playback by making the record sound very noisy, swooshing where it exists and thus ruining them. Two examples that I have are both from Prince, sadly neither are 45rpm 12" singles but were packaged in these pouches with stickers, one single has Alphabet St on one side and both have the visual iridescent appearance to it, but they sound fine, thankfully. I just bought 3 budget PE outer sleeves and tucked them in that to prevent further damage, just FYI. Now Clear Spot by Capt Beefheart, I have the current reissue and it's in the clear pouch as was the originals and worry if they also have this plastizer in it as well. Will need to remember to research that as it's a great album and would hate to have it ruined by its own packaging. Otherwise, I use MoFi inner rice paper sleeves, but there are others, such disc keeper and it's either Sleeve City or Bags Unlimited that sell a version of them as well, but priced the same as MoFi. I'm looking to maybe try some of Blake's Sleeves as they have no welts on the side so don't split and I dislike the crackly 2 Mil or 3 Mil sleeves, but like the 5Mil versions in the clear PE. I have some older cloudy PP outers that I bought I think 25-30 years ago that have held up but don't look as nice. Also, the real thin bags do split pretty readily in some cases. Anyway, a great video and I may rethink putting the LP in the back, slit side not facing up to reduce dust on the record itself and thus maybe reduce the need to brush the LP before playing to remove any dust.
I store my doubles same way makes it fast for swapping to 2nd album and not worrying about opening outer cover and having a record slip out and land on floor
It seems small, but I started storing mine this way and it's a game changer. For me it's also about accessibility. It's so easy to just pull the inner sleeve out of the back and throw a record on. No struggle or worries of paper or cardboard sleeves.
Just bought my first pack of MoFi sleeves since the shop where i was buying the similar and less expensive Vinyl Styl sleeve closed in March after over 40 years in business.. So far i'd say i still prefer the Vinyl Styl as they seem easier to pop open and slip the record into, sometimes that's a struggle with the MoFi's, haven't measured yet but the Vinyl Styl may be slightly heavier plastic. Otherwise very very similar to me at this point.
I just store my records on the floor, but in no inner. I find walking on them helps to kill any static, especially in dry weather. lol I store my records the exact same way for the same reasons, but put my extra nice n’ special ones in a 5 mil Sleeve City outer. For a gatefold, I dig putting em in MoFi inners with the backs of the MoFi’s facing one another in between the gatefold. Keeps the spine spread out the right distance, so it doesn’t get crushed at all. Thanks, Dillon. That’s actually a great topic. As you said, I’m sure a lot of people are curious as to the best way to store their records. Man, do I love your channel! It’s nice to see someone else as obsessed and neurotic about vinyl as I am. Wish I’d known about it earlier.
You should check out the Disckeeper Ultimate inner from Sleevecity, its like the Mofi but rice paper on both sides so more rigid. Label holes on both sides so you can see the label from both sides.
Sam Tessler Yeah, absolutely man. I started using those a few years back instead of MoFi’s, just cuz they’re a better version of the MoFi inners, but when you say, “MoFi sleeves”, people generally know what you’re talking about. I didn’t wanna take up any more space with my comment explaining how the Disckeeper inners were a souped up version of the MoFi’s. lol
Sam Tessler I was also just gonna put in a big order with Sleeve City, then got that email that they’re not shipping for a while. Not sure if you got the same one.
The three best inner sleeves on the market are first, the MA Recordings inner sleeves, which are expensive, Sleeve City's Ultimate Inner Sleeves, and the Vinyl Storage Solutions Clear Inner Sleeves. The best outer sleeves are the Vinyl Storage Solutions 4 mil sleeves with either dual or single pockets, with either the resealable or tuckable flaps. For my best records I buy the dual pocket resealables and use a plain white jacket. I place the original album cover in the resealable, put the record in the plain white jacket and tuck the jacket in the pocket behind the record. You can just put the record behind the jacket in the second pocket without a jacket if you prefer.
@@latetotheparty7551 I'm just a little obsessive when it comes to record care. For really filthy used records I use a Spin Clean then an the Kirmuss Cleaning Method. For new records I use an AudioDesk Pro. I use double pocket Vinyl Storage Solution outers. I place all cleaned records into a Sleeve City Ultimate Sleeve, then a plain white jacket, then into the back of the outer. The Ultimate's are double rice paper sleeves that have a nice heft to them. You can't go wrong.
@@helgar791 I've only encountered a few that were crazy levels of dirty so will hold off a Spin Clean for now. I still appreciate the insight as you never know when it'll be an option.
you should give your records a 90 degree turn before putting back w/ the outer sleeve. it will help reduce dust getting into the inner sleeve and if the record for some reason slips out of the case, it will still be in the inner sleeve.
what is ring wear? (Im guessing its when the record's shape is worn into the album cover (like at 2:39)) also what about the multi-vinal albums? do you keep the records on the outside or just put them back in the album?
MoFi inners are the best.. for outer sleeves, crystal clear blake sleeves are stellar and boost up any sleeve at least one grading point (the open ones not the annoying sealable ones). there's also a 33cm version for gatefolds
I keep mine precisely the same way. Easy to slide the record out by pinching the bottom corner and tilting to allow the record to slide out. FYI there are really nice inner sleeves from Vinyl Storage Solutions that are completely transparent so if you slide out the record you can see through the outer and inner sleeve and read the back of the jacket. You can buy in bulk from them for some nice prices. Oh Canada!
Thanks so much for the video. Can you demo how you clean your vinyl? I’ve seen so many different ways and want to make sure that I am cleaning them properly.
A thousand at a time! You are hardcore record buyer! ; ) I have 23 records, just started collecting. Thank You for your words of wisdom and sharing your experience. Have a great day everybody!
That's nice that you put sleeves on all your records at your new record store. Some record stores here do but Bananas records in St Pete does not. That surprises me because they've got better caliber records then some of the others. I think that's why I first started watching you was when you went to bananas and did the video. I live about 4 miles from the store or should I say three locations.
Great and informative VID Dillon. Another tip is remove posters, pictures, booklets, stickers, lyric sheets...etc. Put these in a separate outer sleeve or a discarded album box or similar. These extras add to ring wear and warping. Are there any outer sleeves made for box sets??? I would imagine these would be expensive.
What about 2xLP’s? Can you store them outside the cover side by side in the cover protector? In separate mofi sleeves of course. What if they are gate folds?
Records like your 13th Floor, with that beautiful cover, I put the disc in a MOFI and then in a white cardboard cover, I put the cover, inserts and original liner in a snug poly outer, and both pieces in a larger poly outer, the cost is under $2, and it will better protect and preserve your $300 record!
I know Chris HATES the shrink but I personally love finding an old record preserved and holding value in its shrink especially with hype stickers. What is your take on shrink and hype stickers? Sorry if you've already answered this.
I put the record inside its cover unless I am shipping it, in which case I put it outside the cover and protective sleeve entirely. I think the concerns about edge damage if you put it in the cover are unneccesary because the edge wear comes mostly from jostling vibrations during shipping; there is nothing that should cause the disc to rub against the inside of the cover while it is on the shelf or simply being removed for playing and then replaced - note that if you do store it outside the cover and inside the protective outer sleeve, you do not find a problem with split seems on the outer sleeve (unless it is those sticky sleeves, in which case the splitting occurs when you try to open the sleeve itself - those will split if you just look at them).
If I don't have a paper sleeve or any sleeve at all, is it better to have it in the cover sleeve or outside of it even though I don't have any anti static sleeves?
What about double lp’s do you still put those in the back in separate sleeves? Or is it too much for the outer sleeve? Currently going through my collection and doing this I really like it
Really liked this video, when I bought LPs in the mail, they would come packaged that way, and I just thought that was how you were supposed to ship them. But this was great and useful information. I will start doing this. This is really helpful for covers with OBI's, because I don't have to take the cover out to play the record. But what about double or even triple LPs? Put both or all 3 on the outside? For example, Sandinista! Would you put all 3 of the LPs outside the cover? I suppose it wouldn't matter that much because single-pocket covers with multiple LPs stick them all inside the cover, so having them all together outside probably won't make a difference. But I thought I would ask you.
I do the same, except I stopped using MFSL sleeves ever since I tried plastic lined paper sleeves. They are easily separated when out and inserting the record meaning no friction and even less static and micro scratching occurring. They also happen to be cheaper for me so its a no brainer.
It might be a stupid question but does the fact that leaving the record outside of the cover sleeve harm the record if you stack them back in the shelf? I just started my collection and am kind of scared that I will potentially harm the record if I lean it against the edge of my shelf / against each other you know :c kind of worried about that if ya know what I mean. Btw I love your videos, very informative
I don’t know if you’ve already said anything about this, but it would be cool to hear your story. How you got into music, how and when you first started collecting. How did you decide to start up your shop? Ik it might be weird talking about yourself but it would be inspiring to hear!
Great video. Two questions: 1 - How do you manage double and triple albums? Do you place all the records on the outside of the jacket, or just one? 2 - For records that originally came with a plain paper inner sleeve (i.e. no lyrics, pics, etc.), do you keep them after replacing them with the anti-static sleeve, or are they considered junk and of no value with respect to the originality/collectibility of the record? Thanks, keep up the great videos, and I look forward to visiting your shop some day.
Only one record per sleeve and I leave everything inside the record as it was, even the paper sleeves. I want it to be exactly how I found it on the inside
Pretty much what I use, MoFi inners and various 3mm outers from a few like Bags, and another from Amazon (100 pk) I really like & trust. Ironically, I don't Ike MoFi's outers. I used 8 color 1/4" electrical tape and stripe the spine on the outer representing the biggest, for me, labels and pressors like Analogue Productions, MoFi, Pure Pleasure, Blue Note, etc. Gives me a quick view of my roughly 1,500 LPs, more important (again, to me) LPs. I'll insert vinyl in its original sleeve unless it's an older, "uncomfortable" fit. Good vid.
I think you're supposed to seal those "double" sleeves, with the "back pouch" for the vinyl, from the BOTTOM, not the top! Then you can slide in your Mofi'd wax with the arrows facing to the left. Trust me it works better than having to rip that adhesive open again and again, with it picking up all manner of unsightly dust, dirt and whathaveyou...but thanks, I feel justified now in using your method, I use the adhesive sleeves for my "grailz, dude"!!! Seriously, though, I use them for anything I paid over £100 for. Stil, informative video as usual cheers from the UK!
I h8 the sticky top! Haha I kind of want to transition to those mofi sleeves. It looks gr8 if you have colored wax. Found your channel in middle of the night & I’ve been record collecting heavy. Awesome channel man! Cheers & keep it up! 💯
...double bag, always double bag...i do also always save and use paper inners with cool graphics, if in v good cond...i like to see those puppies...i do like your technique of inner-slid-into-outer in terms of being easy to see label...i now handle individual records so few times a year each that wear and tear isn't a practicle/practical concern,though dust etc is...and even natural finger oils showing on inners drives me up a wall...
For those who store their records this way, on multiple LP records do you use an individual inner sleeve for each LP, then put them right next to one another in the outer sleeve?
Maybe you've already talked about this but what's your opinion on keeping the record in the shrink wrap? Like opening them up by slitting the shrink to open them but keeping the shrink on. Or do you take it off? What do you do?
...i take off...can cause yellowing/discolouration of cover, easily shrinks and puts stress on packaging and vinyl...it's so cool to see original sw in great shape with promo/price stickers, but they have to come off...
Always informative. But I have a question that I can't seem to get a straight answer on. Should I be using polypropylene outer sleeves, or polyethylene. I have searched all over. Found one article saying use polypro as it is archival safe and near ph neutral. Whereas in another article they said polyethyl is inert and mold, mildew and discoloration will not occur along with being lower in static. What gives? One thing tho, both articles were more for photos and comics archiving.
Quick question, have you found larger outer sleeves for boxier or collectors editions so that the mofi sleeves are not too jammed in the back with those larger boxes?
Do you have a video going over boxes to store them? I have some records that come in special edition boxes or what not and they’re slightly bigger than the standard jacket size, thanks
I've been doing all that you said (I do put record in back) but I just noticed I'm starting to see a ring from the record on the front of jacket on top. What am I doing wrong?
Great advice, thanks. Can you tell me the best way to ship/mail a record? It just seems risky to mail one, bu there must be a secure way of doing it. Thanks
I store my records the same way. Question... for a double album gatefold.... do you put one record in the middle of the two gatefolds and one record in the back of the sleeve? Or do you put both records in the back? I do one in the middle, one in the back... but I’m not sure if one way is better than the other.
hey, do you have a recommendation for a poly sleeve that would fit a 1/2 inch thick spine? i recently purchased NIN The Fragile and it is so thick it will not fit in any of my poly sleeves. And advice is much appreciated.
MoFi (not to be confused with: MoFo! Go to South Central, Los Angeles: "Hey Man! You a, MoFo!" Sorry, but true! I know!) {back on topic:] also makes 4 mil outer sleeves. I use these - they are more expensive - for records I consider to be especially, special. Otherwise, for 'ordinary' records, Vinyl Styl 3 - Mil Poly Sleeves, no flap ("Hey Man! Don' Give Me. No Flap!") I feel are O K. Also, the Vinyl Styl inner sleeves are anti - static. (Here we go, again: "Hey, Man! Don' Give Me No Static!") Since I'm not a 'big shot' as is Dillon at Noble Records, I purchase these through Collectors' Choice Music. This place has occasional sales. One tip: order a bunch of these, by themselves! Do not order records or C D's with them, at the same time! Because, the flat bags of outer sleeves, and flat bags of inner sleeves, of course, are larger than record albums, and will not fit in the protective cardboard boxes designed for vinyl standard albums. The last time that I ordered records, AND inner & outer sleeves at the same time, CC Music put everything into one large, thin wall cardboard box. The (cheap, thin) tape sealing the outer box, almost completely split open. Nothing was damaged, but it came too close for comfort! One more suggestion: I have the thick, box sets of Classical Music Records (my favorite is the large, box set of Puccini's "Tosca", by (and with a beautiful picture of) Leontyne Price, and Placido Domingo (I'll bet that he also made a 'pass,' at her! This is because, he's always been confused, as his real name is: PLACEBO, and this has always marred him! DO NOT repeat this, to him, if you meet him, or he'll be likely to make a pass, at YOU!) and, the copy of George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass" in the background, which you can see in the background, is also a famous, rock music boxed set (of three albums, inside its box). These box sets are usually too thick for the standard Outer Sleeves. So, to obtain larger plastic bags, order the sleeves, in quantities of 25 or 50, per bag. Check the prices. If the prices are linear, in other words, twenty bags of 50 count sleeves, costs exactly the same as One, one thousand count box of the same sleeves, you'll wind up with 20 to 40 quality outer sleeves, for thicker albums, at no extra cost! What could beat this! Nothing! (Except, Placebo's making a pass, at You!) (There were also a couple of boxed sets of albums, by Elvis Presley, and, more recently, sets of compact discs may come in 12" relatively thick boxes, such as a wonderful Miles Davis collection, and a Bob Dylan set, that I have. Also, "The Best of Big Band," various artists, Quality (Label) Audio, Quebec, Canada, four compact discs.)
So what purpose does the paper sandwiched between two of the plys serve on the inner sleeves? I looked on the MoFi website and I don't see an answer... do you know?
I've never had any issues with the resealable sleeves. I use clearbags.com. There are probably some other brands that aren't as good. My process is resealable-->mo-fi sleeve. I'm loyal to those 2 brands. Nothing less than the best. I also do a little sticker label thing on the back of my outer sleeves to write annotations/pressing info and whatnot. It's tedious, but it's nice to have little reference notes.
My record collection has grown almost by accident and I’m worried I’m not caring for them properly. I’d love more videos about cleaning and storing records, even an entire playlist.
Thank you 4 years in the past Dillon. Just picked up these sleeves on your recommendation.
Dillon great info! How do you store 2 LP
albums?
I used to buy Nagaoka anti-static inner sleeves and the opening of the sleeve was at the top, this went inside the cardboard sleeve with the opening to the side and this was all within a heavy duty outer sleeve with the opening at the top (this provided a "maze" effect to keep the dust out.
I used to work in a record shop and had many people tell us not to stand the records on their edge as the grooves would sag (LOL). Then we had to explain that storing them flat was not a good idea as the weight of the records would probably cause the discs to sag.
I used to store my records behind the jacket too, but then I noticed that I was just denting the record behind it on my shelf in the shape of the record (my records are about as loose as yours) along the tops of the jackets. Now I keep all LPs in a single sleeve in the jacket or if they're gatefold, just drop them between the gatefold.
Like seeing the labels but I miss seeing the back covers of the jacket. Nit picky I know but hey,I'm a pain in the ass that way. Love your vids as always.
I love the MO FI sleeves , took a while to get my whole collection done, but now I just have to sleeve the nea ones I get. I like the 3mil outter sleeves too, I hate the sticky flip ones
Are 2.5mil outer sleeves okay?
@@TheCount-y7e I'm sure they are
Thanks for this video, it helps since I have a collection (unintentionally) and need to know how to care for them, my albums are from the late 60's thru the 80's bought at the time and they are all in really good shape some being 60 years old they deserve respect. 😊 Thanks
I aim to use either 2 or 3 mil outer sleeves, it depends on how large the jacket is because sometimes they can be a bit oversized, especially if it’s a Stoughton tip on style jacket. For inners, I always use MoFi or MoFi-esque sleeves. Many companies do their own brand of them using the same material and at during any given time of the day, they can be slightly cheaper but they work extremely well. Disckeeper also does some anti static sleeves for about $15 for a pack of 50 and I’ve used those for many years and they work very well. Thanks for sharing, cheers!
For my absolute top tier Rare collectable records, I use MOFI sleeves for the vinyl, then insert in the back like you (no ring press), then I place a Blakes Crystal Sleeve over the whole album, then place it in a resealable crystal sleeve for added protection. Then I store them in my LP Flight Cases. Nice !!
I love my record collection !
I use the protective sleeves as you do. I want to hear about how people prefer to remove and replace the disc in the inner sleeve - protective or paper. I grab the edge dead wax between thumb and forefinger and lift it out vertically until I can lay it on my other hand, touching only the edge and spindle hole. To replace, I again flip it up so I can grab it by the outer dead wax and slowly slip it down into the sleeve. My belief is that removing it horizontally, as most do, leads to more scraping on the inside of the sleeve than if you carefully lift it our vertically - escpecially if you press very slightly on the edge of the outer cover to bow it open just a bit. I think my method will minimize - not eliminate - the many tiny spider web scratches that accumulate even on well cared for records.
Love that george Harrison album in the bottom left!
I just bought some inner and outer sleeves for my records
Glad I did, looks alot better
Thank you for all your videos... best way to pass time during the quarantine. Love those mofi sleeves
All good stuff Dillon.
One thing I should mention that you will thank me for down the line when it comes especially for special packaging or for many of the 12" singles are the flexible PVC pouches. They are notorious for ruining records stored in them, and the records next to them on either side.
It's been discovered that to get them flexible, they used a lot of plasticizer in making them and they are discovered to leach, badly and thus onto the LP itself stored inside and to adjacent ones. Early signs are an iridescent oil like swirls will first appear on the record surface. Let it go long enough it will affect playback by making the record sound very noisy, swooshing where it exists and thus ruining them. Two examples that I have are both from Prince, sadly neither are 45rpm 12" singles but were packaged in these pouches with stickers, one single has Alphabet St on one side and both have the visual iridescent appearance to it, but they sound fine, thankfully. I just bought 3 budget PE outer sleeves and tucked them in that to prevent further damage, just FYI. Now Clear Spot by Capt Beefheart, I have the current reissue and it's in the clear pouch as was the originals and worry if they also have this plastizer in it as well. Will need to remember to research that as it's a great album and would hate to have it ruined by its own packaging.
Otherwise, I use MoFi inner rice paper sleeves, but there are others, such disc keeper and it's either Sleeve City or Bags Unlimited that sell a version of them as well, but priced the same as MoFi. I'm looking to maybe try some of Blake's Sleeves as they have no welts on the side so don't split and I dislike the crackly 2 Mil or 3 Mil sleeves, but like the 5Mil versions in the clear PE. I have some older cloudy PP outers that I bought I think 25-30 years ago that have held up but don't look as nice.
Also, the real thin bags do split pretty readily in some cases.
Anyway, a great video and I may rethink putting the LP in the back, slit side not facing up to reduce dust on the record itself and thus maybe reduce the need to brush the LP before playing to remove any dust.
Do you store double, triple, even quadruple albums the same way?
I’m wondering the same thing!
This is the same question I was coming to ask. How do you handle multi-record releases?
why not, all vinyl behind the sleeve
I store my doubles same way makes it fast for swapping to 2nd album and not worrying about opening outer cover and having a record slip out and land on floor
ive started doing this with my records. i prefer to keep them this way. it definitely makes it easier to take the record in and out
The actual tilt of the vinyl in your cubes is adding to warp.Stack as vertically as possible with at least an inch gap allowing breathability.
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It seems small, but I started storing mine this way and it's a game changer. For me it's also about accessibility. It's so easy to just pull the inner sleeve out of the back and throw a record on. No struggle or worries of paper or cardboard sleeves.
Just bought my first pack of MoFi sleeves since the shop where i was buying the similar and less expensive Vinyl Styl sleeve closed in March after over 40 years in business.. So far i'd say i still prefer the Vinyl Styl as they seem easier to pop open and slip the record into, sometimes that's a struggle with the MoFi's, haven't measured yet but the Vinyl Styl may be slightly heavier plastic. Otherwise very very similar to me at this point.
I just store my records on the floor, but in no inner. I find walking on them helps to kill any static, especially in dry weather. lol
I store my records the exact same way for the same reasons, but put my extra nice n’ special ones in a 5 mil Sleeve City outer.
For a gatefold, I dig putting em in MoFi inners with the backs of the MoFi’s facing one another in between the gatefold. Keeps the spine spread out the right distance, so it doesn’t get crushed at all.
Thanks, Dillon. That’s actually a great topic. As you said, I’m sure a lot of people are curious as to the best way to store their records.
Man, do I love your channel! It’s nice to see someone else as obsessed and neurotic about vinyl as I am. Wish I’d known about it earlier.
You should check out the Disckeeper Ultimate inner from Sleevecity, its like the Mofi but rice paper on both sides so more rigid. Label holes on both sides so you can see the label from both sides.
Sam Tessler
Yeah, absolutely man. I started using those a few years back instead of MoFi’s, just cuz they’re a better version of the MoFi inners, but when you say, “MoFi sleeves”, people generally know what you’re talking about. I didn’t wanna take up any more space with my comment explaining how the Disckeeper inners were a souped up version of the MoFi’s. lol
Sam Tessler
I was also just gonna put in a big order with Sleeve City, then got that email that they’re not shipping for a while. Not sure if you got the same one.
The three best inner sleeves on the market are first, the MA Recordings inner sleeves, which are expensive, Sleeve City's Ultimate Inner Sleeves, and the Vinyl Storage Solutions Clear Inner Sleeves. The best outer sleeves are the Vinyl Storage Solutions 4 mil sleeves with either dual or single pockets, with either the resealable or tuckable flaps. For my best records I buy the dual pocket resealables and use a plain white jacket. I place the original album cover in the resealable, put the record in the plain white jacket and tuck the jacket in the pocket behind the record. You can just put the record behind the jacket in the second pocket without a jacket if you prefer.
Thanks for the info! I've already transitioned to VSS outer and inner ones but will definitely try out the MA Recordings ones.
@@latetotheparty7551 The MA's are great, but the Sleeve City Ultimate's are almost as good and far superior than any other sleeve on the market.
@@helgar791 Good to know. The relative lack of information made me wary of them.
@@latetotheparty7551 I'm just a little obsessive when it comes to record care. For really filthy used records I use a Spin Clean then an the Kirmuss Cleaning Method. For new records I use an AudioDesk Pro. I use double pocket Vinyl Storage Solution outers. I place all cleaned records into a Sleeve City Ultimate Sleeve, then a plain white jacket, then into the back of the outer. The Ultimate's are double rice paper sleeves that have a nice heft to them. You can't go wrong.
@@helgar791 I've only encountered a few that were crazy levels of dirty so will hold off a Spin Clean for now. I still appreciate the insight as you never know when it'll be an option.
I store my vinyl the exact same way..I have stored them that since I began my collection.
you should give your records a 90 degree turn before putting back w/ the outer sleeve. it will help reduce dust getting into the inner sleeve and if the record for some reason slips out of the case, it will still be in the inner sleeve.
Exactly what I was thinking
what is ring wear? (Im guessing its when the record's shape is worn into the album cover (like at 2:39))
also what about the multi-vinal albums? do you keep the records on the outside or just put them back in the album?
Helpful video. My local record store sells 4 mil sleeves which I like quite a bit. Thanks for the great videos.
MoFi inners are the best.. for outer sleeves, crystal clear blake sleeves are stellar and boost up any sleeve at least one grading point (the open ones not the annoying sealable ones). there's also a 33cm version for gatefolds
The Best sleeves ever !!!!!!!!! They keep the records so clean !!!
I keep mine precisely the same way. Easy to slide the record out by pinching the bottom corner and tilting to allow the record to slide out. FYI there are really nice inner sleeves from Vinyl Storage Solutions that are completely transparent so if you slide out the record you can see through the outer and inner sleeve and read the back of the jacket. You can buy in bulk from them for some nice prices. Oh Canada!
I will always regret not buying that Gil Scott behind you when it was at your store. Who knows when I'll have another US first press so close.
Sorry! Yeah this wasn’t the one in the store, but hopefully I’ll find another one soon!
Hi Dillon when I started watching your video's I noticed how you stored your lps and I thought that was really good idea ,so that's how mine are now .
Thanks so much for the video. Can you demo how you clean your vinyl? I’ve seen so many different ways and want to make sure that I am cleaning them properly.
A thousand at a time! You are hardcore record buyer! ; ) I have 23 records, just started collecting. Thank You for your words of wisdom and sharing your experience. Have a great day everybody!
Wow...i also just started collecting records! Bought my 1st last month...but i only have 4 others
I know this is a 6 month old upload, but how do you store double LPs? In two separate Miri sleeves together behind the jacket?
That's nice that you put sleeves on all your records at your new record store. Some record stores here do but Bananas records in St Pete does not. That surprises me because they've got better caliber records then some of the others. I think that's why I first started watching you was when you went to bananas and did the video. I live about 4 miles from the store or should I say three locations.
Great and informative VID Dillon. Another tip is remove posters, pictures, booklets, stickers, lyric sheets...etc.
Put these in a separate outer sleeve or a discarded album box or similar. These extras add to ring wear and warping. Are there any outer sleeves made for box sets??? I would imagine these would be expensive.
How do you place records in mofi for double or triple albums?
What about 2xLP’s? Can you store them outside the cover side by side in the cover protector? In separate mofi sleeves of course. What if they are gate folds?
Having them in their on sleeves I put them both in the back
Im gonna do as you, smart way to do it
I like the fact that you speak some truth about 2mil double pockets. I got 4mils for that matter.
Records like your 13th Floor, with that beautiful cover, I put the disc in a MOFI and then in a white cardboard cover, I put the cover, inserts and original liner in a snug poly outer, and both pieces in a larger poly outer, the cost is under $2, and it will better protect and preserve your $300 record!
Hi, do you store 2LP gatefolds the same way? I think there was no answer so far. Thanks!
I know Chris HATES the shrink but I personally love finding an old record preserved and holding value in its shrink especially with hype stickers. What is your take on shrink and hype stickers? Sorry if you've already answered this.
Anyway: hell of a good and very informative video. Really appreciate your content.
Thanks!!!
3 mil AND buy 12.75 by 12.75. I've found that smaller sleeves don't fit the double album jackets very well.
I put the record inside its cover unless I am shipping it, in which case I put it outside the cover and protective sleeve entirely. I think the concerns about edge damage if you put it in the cover are unneccesary because the edge wear comes mostly from jostling vibrations during shipping; there is nothing that should cause the disc to rub against the inside of the cover while it is on the shelf or simply being removed for playing and then replaced - note that if you do store it outside the cover and inside the protective outer sleeve, you do not find a problem with split seems on the outer sleeve (unless it is those sticky sleeves, in which case the splitting occurs when you try to open the sleeve itself - those will split if you just look at them).
If I don't have a paper sleeve or any sleeve at all, is it better to have it in the cover sleeve or outside of it even though I don't have any anti static sleeves?
what about boxed records such as the John Prine Live at the other end LP?
What about double lp’s do you still put those in the back in separate sleeves? Or is it too much for the outer sleeve? Currently going through my collection and doing this I really like it
Same way I store mine dude. Nice video. Had me chuckling.
Hahah gotta keep it light
I like the mofi sleeves
Really liked this video, when I bought LPs in the mail, they would come packaged that way, and I just thought that was how you were supposed to ship them. But this was great and useful information. I will start doing this. This is really helpful for covers with OBI's, because I don't have to take the cover out to play the record.
But what about double or even triple LPs? Put both or all 3 on the outside? For example, Sandinista! Would you put all 3 of the LPs outside the cover? I suppose it wouldn't matter that much because single-pocket covers with multiple LPs stick them all inside the cover, so having them all together outside probably won't make a difference. But I thought I would ask you.
I do the same, except I stopped using MFSL sleeves ever since I tried plastic lined paper sleeves. They are easily separated when out and inserting the record meaning no friction and even less static and micro scratching occurring. They also happen to be cheaper for me so its a no brainer.
Leon thepro ... I use them too, they are sturdier!
Very cool! That’s exactly how I store my records as well!
What about double LP‘s? Can you put each record in one sleeve and then in the back of the outer sleeve?
It might be a stupid question but does the fact that leaving the record outside of the cover sleeve harm the record if you stack them back in the shelf? I just started my collection and am kind of scared that I will potentially harm the record if I lean it against the edge of my shelf / against each other you know :c kind of worried about that if ya know what I mean. Btw I love your videos, very informative
I was wondering about the sleeves you use. Thanks for cluing us in!
I don’t know if you’ve already said anything about this, but it would be cool to hear your story. How you got into music, how and when you first started collecting. How did you decide to start up your shop? Ik it might be weird talking about yourself but it would be inspiring to hear!
Check out his Vinyl Biography podcast episode 1 : )
Excellent tips. Thanks
I use mofi maybe I’ll start doing it also . I’ve seen other people doing it also. Ooo I hate the sticky strip. 👌
Great video. Two questions: 1 - How do you manage double and triple albums? Do you place all the records on the outside of the jacket, or just one? 2 - For records that originally came with a plain paper inner sleeve (i.e. no lyrics, pics, etc.), do you keep them after replacing them with the anti-static sleeve, or are they considered junk and of no value with respect to the originality/collectibility of the record? Thanks, keep up the great videos, and I look forward to visiting your shop some day.
Only one record per sleeve and I leave everything inside the record as it was, even the paper sleeves. I want it to be exactly how I found it on the inside
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 yea he didn’t. And I need answers!
Pretty much what I use, MoFi inners and various 3mm outers from a few like Bags, and another from Amazon (100 pk) I really like & trust. Ironically, I don't Ike MoFi's outers.
I used 8 color 1/4" electrical tape and stripe the spine on the outer representing the biggest, for me, labels and pressors like Analogue Productions, MoFi, Pure Pleasure, Blue Note, etc. Gives me a quick view of my roughly 1,500 LPs, more important (again, to me) LPs.
I'll insert vinyl in its original sleeve unless it's an older, "uncomfortable" fit.
Good vid.
I think you're supposed to seal those "double" sleeves, with the "back pouch" for the vinyl, from the BOTTOM, not the top! Then you can slide in your Mofi'd wax with the arrows facing to the left. Trust me it works better than having to rip that adhesive open again and again, with it picking up all manner of unsightly dust, dirt and whathaveyou...but thanks, I feel justified now in using your method, I use the adhesive sleeves for my "grailz, dude"!!! Seriously, though, I use them for anything I paid over £100 for. Stil, informative video as usual cheers from the UK!
Will a record warp from it being in behind outer cover and having other records stacked against it?
You should try the 5 mil Sleeve City outer sleeves. Best sleeves I've every tried. They are super thick and ultra clear.
Same. I use them and they are outstanding.
what about if it’s a 2lp? do you put each disc in its own sleeve and place both in the back next to each other or one in the front one in the back?
How do you clean your new records
As always a wonderful video
I h8 the sticky top! Haha I kind of want to transition to those mofi sleeves. It looks gr8 if you have colored wax. Found your channel in middle of the night & I’ve been record collecting heavy. Awesome channel man! Cheers & keep it up! 💯
Thank you!
...double bag, always double bag...i do also always save and use paper inners with cool graphics, if in v good cond...i like to see those puppies...i do like your technique of inner-slid-into-outer in terms of being easy to see label...i now handle individual records so few times a year each that wear and tear isn't a practicle/practical concern,though dust etc is...and even natural finger oils showing on inners drives me up a wall...
For those who store their records this way, on multiple LP records do you use an individual inner sleeve for each LP, then put them right next to one another in the outer sleeve?
Yes. They each get their own inner and i just let them both sit behind the jacket. Been doing it that way for 3 years and have had no problems.
Maybe you've already talked about this but what's your opinion on keeping the record in the shrink wrap? Like opening them up by slitting the shrink to open them but keeping the shrink on. Or do you take it off? What do you do?
I keep shrink on if it’s still in good shape. Sometimes I take it off if it’s a gatefold but usually just leave it on.
...i take off...can cause yellowing/discolouration of cover, easily shrinks and puts stress on packaging and vinyl...it's so cool to see original sw in great shape with promo/price stickers, but they have to come off...
Always informative. But I have a question that I can't seem to get a straight answer on. Should I be using polypropylene outer sleeves, or polyethylene. I have searched all over. Found one article saying use polypro as it is archival safe and near ph neutral. Whereas in another article they said polyethyl is inert and mold, mildew and discoloration will not occur along with being lower in static. What gives? One thing tho, both articles were more for photos and comics archiving.
Quick question, have you found larger outer sleeves for boxier or collectors editions so that the mofi sleeves are not too jammed in the back with those larger boxes?
Do you have a video going over boxes to store them? I have some records that come in special edition boxes or what not and they’re slightly bigger than the standard jacket size, thanks
Is it safe to store records leaning, or will it cause warping?
Hi Dylan..love your channel. Very informative.
Just wondering what you use and how you clean your vinyl?
Thanks a mill...
What do you use for gate fold outer sleeves?
What Sleeve is the „Elevators - 13th Floor“ actually stored in. Doesn‘t Look like the MoFi. Or is the printed writing just faded?
It’s the same as a MoFi sleeve it it just doesn’t have any writing on it.
What do you do if the album has 2 or 3 records?
I've been doing all that you said (I do put record in back) but I just noticed I'm starting to see a ring from the record on the front of jacket on top. What am I doing wrong?
Great advice, thanks. Can you tell me the best way to ship/mail a record? It just seems risky to mail one, bu there must be a secure way of doing it. Thanks
Where did you purchase the cube storage units? Do you find they are sturdy enough. Thank yoy
Informative as usual thank you
I store my records the same way. Question... for a double album gatefold.... do you put one record in the middle of the two gatefolds and one record in the back of the sleeve? Or do you put both records in the back?
I do one in the middle, one in the back... but I’m not sure if one way is better than the other.
thanks for the video. I dream every day about owning a record store
Work hard, you can do it!
Are polyester outer sleeves a good choice?
I have several box sets do they make sleeves for box sets if not what's the best way to protect these
Super helpful!
hey, do you have a recommendation for a poly sleeve that would fit a 1/2 inch thick spine? i recently purchased NIN The Fragile and it is so thick it will not fit in any of my poly sleeves. And advice is much appreciated.
Also is buying a sealed up bad thing.. possible warping?
when you put the record in the back of the sleeve do they ever get warped or cracked. seems that they would be too exposed?
Thanks again yer videos always great 👍
MoFi (not to be confused with: MoFo! Go to South Central, Los Angeles: "Hey Man! You a, MoFo!" Sorry, but true! I know!) {back on topic:] also makes 4 mil outer sleeves. I use these - they are more expensive - for records I consider to be especially, special. Otherwise, for 'ordinary' records, Vinyl Styl 3 - Mil Poly Sleeves, no flap ("Hey Man! Don' Give Me. No Flap!") I feel are O K. Also, the Vinyl Styl inner sleeves are anti - static. (Here we go, again: "Hey, Man! Don' Give Me No Static!") Since I'm not a 'big shot' as is Dillon at Noble Records, I purchase these through Collectors' Choice Music. This place has occasional sales. One tip: order a bunch of these, by themselves! Do not order records or C D's with them, at the same time! Because, the flat bags of outer sleeves, and flat bags of inner sleeves, of course, are larger than record albums, and will not fit in the protective cardboard boxes designed for vinyl standard albums. The last time that I ordered records, AND inner & outer sleeves at the same time, CC Music put everything into one large, thin wall cardboard box. The (cheap, thin) tape sealing the outer box, almost completely split open. Nothing was damaged, but it came too close for comfort! One more suggestion: I have the thick, box sets of Classical Music Records (my favorite is the large, box set of Puccini's "Tosca", by (and with a beautiful picture of) Leontyne Price, and Placido Domingo (I'll bet that he also made a 'pass,' at her! This is because, he's always been confused, as his real name is: PLACEBO, and this has always marred him! DO NOT repeat this, to him, if you meet him, or he'll be likely to make a pass, at YOU!) and, the copy of George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass" in the background, which you can see in the background, is also a famous, rock music boxed set (of three albums, inside its box). These box sets are usually too thick for the standard Outer Sleeves. So, to obtain larger plastic bags, order the sleeves, in quantities of 25 or 50, per bag. Check the prices. If the prices are linear, in other words, twenty bags of 50 count sleeves, costs exactly the same as One, one thousand count box of the same sleeves, you'll wind up with 20 to 40 quality outer sleeves, for thicker albums, at no extra cost! What could beat this! Nothing! (Except, Placebo's making a pass, at You!) (There were also a couple of boxed sets of albums, by Elvis Presley, and, more recently, sets of compact discs may come in 12" relatively thick boxes, such as a wonderful Miles Davis collection, and a Bob Dylan set, that I have. Also, "The Best of Big Band," various artists, Quality (Label) Audio, Quebec, Canada, four compact discs.)
Can you make a video on how you clean your records?
How do you clean records?
So what purpose does the paper sandwiched between two of the plys serve on the inner sleeves? I looked on the MoFi website and I don't see an answer... do you know?
have you tried the vinyl storage solutions dual pocket outer sleeves?
Have you used the inner sleeves that Music Record Shop sell?
I've never had any issues with the resealable sleeves. I use clearbags.com. There are probably some other brands that aren't as good. My process is resealable-->mo-fi sleeve. I'm loyal to those 2 brands. Nothing less than the best. I also do a little sticker label thing on the back of my outer sleeves to write annotations/pressing info and whatnot. It's tedious, but it's nice to have little reference notes.
Trevor The Clever ... you’re about due for a video!