Etrian Odyssey: The Coolest RPGs You've Never Played
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- If you want to try an Etrian Odyssey game, start with Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold, and if you can't play that, go with Etrian Odyssey III HD.
Etrian Odyssey Utility Links: docs.google.co...
Song List:
CrossCode - S-Rank Battle
Rabbit & Steel - A Valiant Battle
Rabbit & Steel - A Mysterious Battle
Project Sekai - Enjoy Sports!
Project Sekai - マジカルタイム♪ (Magical Time)
One Step From Eden - The Forest
Etrian Odyssey III - Cityscape ~ The Dusk Clad Ocean City
Etrian Odyssey IV - Battlefield ~ Gale Force
Etrian Odyssey Nexus - Labyrinth ~ World Shrine
Street Fighter V - Sakura Theme
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:34 - Don't start with Etrian Odyssey 1
2:03 - Party Building
4:34 - Mapping
5:24 - Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold
9:42 - Etrian Odyssey III HD
13:37 - Etrian Odyssey IV
16:36 - Beginner Advice 
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If you want to play Etrian Odyssey IV on Citra:
Step 1: Enabling speed-up
Once Etrian Odyssey IV appears in Citra's game select,
- Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Properties -> Set Emulation Speed to 150%
- Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Advanced -> DISABLE VSync
- Go to Emulation -> Controls -> Hotkeys -> Toggle Per-Game Speed, assign your hotkey of choice.
Step 2: Changing Resolution
- Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Internal Resolution, change to your liking
Step 3: Using game mods
- Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Open Mods Location, drag mods to the folder that pops up.
Recommended mods: EO4:
- Speed Patch (romfs) by violentlycar
- EO4 “Transparency Patch” by GlitchMC
Links to these can be found in the EO Utility Links Google Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/edit
Troubleshooting:
- Make sure the code(dot)bin file is OUTSIDE the romfs folder, and none of them are contained in any folders past the point you arrived at when you did "Open Mods Location".
- No, Citra does not have support for multiple keys bound to a single button.
- Yeah, sometimes Citra may just crash on you. Not much you can do about it, just make sure your settings are sensible.
You know, since it was my first, I never was bothered by the speed. Even replaying it recently, I didn't even realize.
I always go slowly and methodically, because I am either mapping, or paying attention to FOE movement though...
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I agree here. I started with EO1 and I'm always looking at what the enemy does to figure out what to keep in mind for the next encounter, so I actually really dislike it when actions fly by without getting to see which parts I need to bind, what type of damage the enemy uses, and what skill actually killed me.
I've seen several times that people are caught off-guard by fast-moving combat because it makes them not pay attention to anything.
Just my 2 cents: I'd recommend them Etrian Odyssey Untold before either of your recommendations - simply because they might not want to play the best 1st. If you play the peak first it's only downhill from there.
OR EO4 with the speed patch, which you just taught me about😂 EO4 would be my go-to for recommendations if you could run without a patch. It's by far the slowest EO game, physically. But it also has a lot of mechanics that offer newcomers assistance while allowing vets to break boundaries. So if Untold is too easy then EO4 is there
Editing to adress difficulty and strategy - I honestly think the skill simulators just break the games. If you aren't figuring out strats yourself it just becomes a matter of attrition (getting the skill points) and a coin toss (did you get the right rng on turn 1 - and this is usually " did X survive the turn in order to properly start the setup). I'm just not a fan of guaranteed strats, so I'm recommending based on that mindset. I also don't think using the sim is pushing limits - like obviously it is in a practical sense but in terms of the player themselves doing it, they're just relying on a strategy given to them to get a number they can sorta calculate. That's not the same thing as pushing the limits to me. The people who discovered those strats before the simulators are the limit pushers
It's not forgotten! I cry in my corner waiting for any game that is ETRIAN LIKE. I sob im my corner that ETRIAN MYSTERY DUNGEON is stuck on the 3DS when it's my two favorite Dungeon Divers together! 😢
I'll forever be mad that EMD2 is stuck in the 3ds and just in Japanese.
I know some of the simpler RPG games in recent years (e.g. Undernauts) have come close to being Etrian-like, while taking a different artstyle & not wholesale implementing the mapping system (maybe due to copyrighting or something)
But not a single game, not even one, has come close to a Valkyria Chronicles-like. That's what saddens me the most. It's been out for like, over 15 years at this point, and nobody's managed a turn-based strategy using something similar to the BLiTZ system.
I swear, if indie developers manage to replicate the BLiTZ system for their Steam / GOG games & add a level editor for UGCs, it would sell like hotcakes even if the graphics are all 16-bit. There's a huge desire & thirst for more VCs that few have publicly acknowledged
we are a small but dedicated fanbase!
EO5 was so peak that game had hell slash
Also like every class had clear and viable build paths wich is super good for newbs
Like im not kidding every class is cool af and viable and its like the only game with multiple viable and interesting tanks and healers. Also it has viable petrify and i think that is cool
Eo5 was a pretty good game, Loved the Dragoon.
Playing it rn, you're 100% right
Hell yeah it's my favorite also. I really really really prefer the branching class paths over the sub class systems. Not only does it make it so every class combo can work together since it gives every class ways to contribute support or offensively, it makes it so classes don't straight up cannibalize another class's role later in the game.
The different races also lets you use a few of the classes in very different ways, so if you play around with your party setup you can build some interesting teams.
To this day I have never realized Eo4 was slower than the other games in the series lol, never was a deal breaker to me tbh
Etrian Odyssey is basically a Dungeons & Dragons campaign in the best possible sense. And the DS/3DS is the absolute perfect platform for it - filling in maps yourself is just such an important part of the experience, the automapping of the re-release is just taking away a bit from that, though I recognize they had to do it. I do hope that we'll eventually get a new EO, but I also believe this series would have to go to Phones and Tablets with a touchscreen to really retain what makes it so great. PS: EO3 actually has a good story, and I'm happy it's available for a good price again instead of needing to hunt a $$$$$ original DS cartridge.
I think the Wii U would have been perfect for it too, and I am not sure how to feel about this tbh
Totally, I mean that was the original intent of the games Etrian odyssey is based on and inspired by
Personally i don't like to hear 4 being called easy, when i think it's more accurate to say the game is the most fair game in the series up to that point. The skills are more usefull and better described than any prior game. The skill trees are better built so you'll obtain something usefull before having to dump 21 skill points into several skills that serve you no purpose, literal dead weight, just to access the skill you actually do want. That's 21 levels to begin being able to level an actual good skill. You can actually reliably land status and even reapply them whereas before you're living on a prayer if your status lands and if you get it you're praying yet again it lasts more than 1 turn cause if it don't you're not getting that status on that enemy again. Only thing i think really makes the game easy is that through eating you can cover your ass by strengthening your resistances without needing to change your equipment allowing you to really push that glass cannon build you may be rocking.
Sorry but in regard to ailments that's straight up lie. In 4 they behave exactly like they did in 3 with enemies gaining resistance to ailments they were inflicted with. You're unlucky and it wore off early? You will have a harder time inflicting it a second time unless the boss was designed to not gain resistance. The difference is you have a skill to reset it deeper in the Arcanist (i believe tree).
It’s easy unfortunately
I'm sorry but... no, it kinda is with the shorter dungeons, and it's also kinda less far because of the veteran and master level gates, yeah you know what things do but you also can't get the good stuff until level 20 or 40 and in the rare case you can you can't make the good stuff actually good until then
Well, I'm standing my ground,
In regards to ailments I will acknowledge some bias there because until I used the nightseeker and arcanist I never got any use out of ailments in the earlier game. They just feel like they actually land in 4, and I definitely use the arcanist to reset resistances.
On the matter of shorter stratums, yes, the main dungeons are about 3 floors each compared to prior titles 1&2 have 5 floors and 3 has 4 each. However, you add the overworld navigation and all the mini dungeons each stratum in 4 has as much if not more content than in the earlier games
On the matter of level gates, it's an arbitrary restriction sure but one thing I did when playing 4 was get the skills I want from the novice gate then keep my skill points until I hit the intermediate gate and immediately dump them into what I want, maybe I might have put some points into some novice skill short term to get me up to that point but I rest and redistribute as necessary. Most of the skills I put points in I end up using. Now if you saw in my original post you'll notice the number 21, that number isn't random. I was actually replaying my physical copy of EO3 at the time I made that post. That's the amount of skill points I had to put into an arbalist skill tree to learn double action. I actually wanted it for my gladiator, but even for and arbalist here's the break down: DA needs 4 in front mortar(good skill, BIG damage) and 4 in armor pierce(never touched)
Front motor needs 5 in heavy shot(why would I use this?)
Armor piercer needs 7 in bolt mastery(giant kill is arbalists biggest damage multiplier, not this) which will unlock heavy shot as well.
So if you tally it all up that's 20 skill points plus 1 to actually learn double action with at least 3 skills in there that I never ever use, didn't even bother to pursue it for my gladiator. I currently can't recall EO4 burying a passive this deep. This is the kinda crap they toned down that make the game feel easier than it is cause the fights sure aren't and if you think they are you can always try to beat warped saviour with no chemicals. There's no ingame recognition for it but feel free to call yourself an all American badass when you do, maybe in a future, future playthrough I'll try my hand at it too.
@jive238 I'll give you the shorter stratum because that's fair but not the level gates, it does not matter if I get the points for the thing I actually want for my build if it's behind a later level game unable to be learned even if I can afford it while even the worst skill to max in the old games (pincushion) I can get at level 28 but if I want poison throw arguably the best skill for nightseeker I HAVE to wait until level 40 even thought the cost to max it and get all prerequisites is 14 and with out the gate I could get it at level 12 and if i save points then I have worse skills at low level, in this example 2 points in each ailment and almost the exact same thing is ture for the attacks. I won't call the game as a while bad because A) I've not played and B) I am interested in getting it, but I will call out inherit flaws like how fluff skills are made worse by the level gates
Besides the wonderful class design, it's also underrated how great the random encounters are. Many JRPGs end up with their enemies being simple fodder, but in EO, they use more interesing tactics (including synergies your own party might use), on top of being fairly strong and challenging your TP management. You also get FOEs doubling as obstacles AND minibosses, so in general, it doesn't feel like only the bosses are the good parts and the game is more consistently entertaining.
One of my favorite Fire Emblem RUclipsrs is making videos about another of my favorite series? Sign me up, let's go!
Yeah this was a super cool surprise for me, too lmao
The biggest thing with Etrain for me, which you only barely touched on: Engage with the story. "But these games don't have much story!" Exactly. Just like your build is an open question, and your map is an empty sheet of graph paper, the story is also a blank script for you to fill in as you see fit. The story is *just* extant enough that you have a shape to conform to. It's like a coloring book for your story. Don't just look at your party as a stat block and a list of skills and skill point allocations. Who are they? What are they doing here in the labyrinth? Why are they here? How do thye interact with eachother? How do they interact with the town? Do they have friends or family who aren't in the team or npcs? the game is asking you, begging you, to be creative in so many ways, and you do yourself a disservice to not engage with all of it I think. Whether you write a full on fanfic or you just have these little interactions in your head, your time with Etrian will be SO much more fun if you think of your party as characters. Be creative with this game in every way you can be, and you'll have a great time, I promise.
My most favorite series and the reason why I love the ds era and I got all the games.
Really hope for more games though like the elusive eo3u.
Easily my favorite games of all time when it comes to player character and party customization.
I originally got started with this series watching a friend stream through the first few ones, back about when 5 came out, so that was my first EO. But I can understand why 5 wasn't brought up -- things were further changed only for that game (as the next one was Nexus, which I consider a boring slog) with the subjob system in 3 and 4, and the Basic/Veteran/Master tier skills, replaced with 5's title system (a forked evolution for a given class that focuses on one of the two aspects of a class, like Rover's hound and hawk, Dragoon's tanking and offense, or Botanist's healing and aliment skillsets), and the whole "they added races which polarized options you could take" part of 5 as well.
Nexus was a celebratory title. With 18 or so old classes used anew it was easier to use old systems than adapt the majority of them to a new one especially with them (old classes) never really focusing on more vague designs that could go in two different directions like classes in V
I get a real kick out of the little Medigirl illustrations in this video. I recently started my journey playing the games from the first to last (because I got stuck in EO1 DS as a kid and never beat it) and because of that game's whack skill balance, that orange-haired Medic ended up being both my party's defensive backbone AND one of my main damage dealers. As someone who likes to make up backstories for my created characters in these games, that was GREAT. She's been my "guild leader" in any of the games I played afterwards ever since. Funnily enough, this series is the only game series I ever got this much into the roleplaying.
Something I love about the series so far (I'm on EO2 HD right now, but have finished EO1 HD and played quite a bit of EO4) is how it encourages slowing down and thinking about stuff. Theorycrafting over party combinations is something I only did in a few old RPGs before this series and it's one of the most relaxing things ever. Sometimes, my sessions aren't about progress, but just trying new stuff (because I didn't know about these skill websites you mentioned) and it's just chill.
One thing I learned from this video (apart from that there's skill tester websites), is that the Untold games released back to back and after EO4, which surprised me. I hadn't looked into it and thought they had started off the 3DS with Untold 1.
I really hope the series manages to continue after the HD collection. Losing the 3DS REALLY hurts it sadly, but man, Etrian Odyssey's party building and dungeon diving is too special to just let it die in my opinion.
I started with Etrian Odyssey Untold way back when after playing the demo for a little while, and I had a great time playing through the story mode in the full game. I picked up Untold 2 at a really low price during a sale, and I always intended to get to it at some point, but seeing your video about the medic class in that game was what spurred me to finally start! I'm working my way through the first stratum now and I've got 3 HD waiting for me as well. Keep on making videos about this series, man! I'd love to watch more of them.
I still stand by starting with 1 and 2, since they're very hard to get into after playing the latter ones. But, I'm also an OG 2 enjoyer.
My favorite RPG series. 😍 I puchased Etrian Odyssey on the ds at a whim and thoroughly enjoyed it despite its shortcoming. These games really utilize the ds and 3ds capabilities to the max because drawinon the map while fighting was so easy. Etrian Odyssey V is my favorite due to the customization in portrait for your members and class are really cool to use.
Always remember; status is king.
The enemy can’t hit you if you stop their arms from moving, or stop them from casting magic by binding their heads.
Panic is also underrated, you pretty much steal the enemy’s turns and force them to do their least effective actions and having them occasionally hit themselves/their allies.
The best part is that almost every enemy is susceptible to status. To my knowledge, nothing is completely immune to status and binds can NEVER be nullified naturally.
Bully the enemy by making them shit themselves until death. This is a VERY viable strategy.
Addendum: binding arms/heads/legs drops the relevant stat to 1.
Tec/Technique not only governs magical attack, but also defence.
Binding heads means their Tec drops to 1.
Which means magical attacks have almost full efficacy granted no resistances are in play.
It's not forgotten, just really, really underrated.
Source: Been a fan since around 2013 (I actually remember looking forward to Fafnir Knight being released).
Etrian Odyssey is a great game series
the two games that really got me into it was Persona Q and Untold 2. I had gotten 4 but it hadn't clicked for me, the battles and exploration. Then I played PQ and loved it which got me excited for Untold 2 and then I was in it
though my god did I play Untold 2 badly. I did the story mode with the preset party but it took so long to use them correctly. Realizing the damage Chloe could pull out with Ailing Slash as a War Magus, I'd thought to make her just a healer. Arianna was on buffs and healing for the whole game. Literally up to the final boss and I couldn't beat him, looked it up and it said "use Link Order 2". I tested it out and holy hell her damage was insane. I'd handicapped myself the whole game haha thankfully I knew better for 5 and Nexus, and I have to swing back to the rest of the games
I remember picking up Etrian Odyssey on the DS and I was a bit too young and hot headed at that stage of my life to truly appreciate it.
I still enjoyed the game, but I definitely feel like I'd enjoy it far more today. I'll definitely be giving it another look.
Funnily enough, I did start with IV. I don’t remember it being that slow, but maybe that’s just because I didn’t have the others as reference points. I do remember holding down the B button to skip through most of the battle text though.
I love the mechanical side of Etrian Odyssey, but what got me into the series is the freedom it grants when making your characters. Because there is no dialogue or pre-written story, you can have all of your characters be whoever you want them to be. I especially liked the character customization options from Nexus and 5, because it allowed me to further emphasize the personalities I saw for my characters through their voice and colors. Ironically, what got me into the series was the demo for Etrian Odyssey Untold, and then the demo for EO4, then the demo for EO2U. I eventually went ahead and bought EOU and EO2U, made several billion runs of EO2U's first stratum, never beat any of the games, and continued to love them and call this my favorite video game series of all time. I think the furthest I've ever gotten in any game was the boss of the 3rd stratum of EO5, so... I should really get back into this series!
Thanks for highlighting my favorite game series. I always compare new RPGs to these games because its that good and has so many concepts that I want other games to adapt.
One piece of advice for new players is to remember that bosses are only a good 30% of the game you face so skilling for aoe attacks and field map skills makes the game as a whole a lot more manageable. Putting points into Resuscitate or Risk Perception/Sneak Attack in Untold 2 go a long way than meager damage increases unless you skill their larger bonus point thresholds. You don't have to fight FOEs on the first time you visit a floor and you can always rest whenever you are stuck on FOEs/5th level bosses.
-I still spec for bosses.-
Let's gooo, another EO video! Can't wait to watch this!
Etrian Odyssey is what made me really fall in love with atlus games. I started with the first one on the DS and HOLY That is exactly an RPG That I have been looking for for years now after finishing a few Persona, Pokémon and SMT games. I need to think about my moves, my setup, how I use Items and the troup I set up. I love Etrian Odyssey
You're tempting me too hard with these videos. I've never played any EO game other than one of the demos but my academic career is at a huge risk to be hijacked by a JRPG series with great mechanical depth .... You make them seem so fun 😅
love these games
days upon days of running around just meandering, and 3 is still goated
I still remember back im the day I would respec every few floors to realign my party's EXP curves.
11:00 The exp was removed from FOEs but the exp bosses give was buffed so the ideal way to grind is to kill all available main story bosses and then rest for 14 days so they respawn. It's very dull to swap to lv1 party for cheap inn cost and sit through the sleep animation but it is easily the best method.
That is also the best way to grind money if you try snipe their conditional drops every time.
CrossCode AND Rabbit and Steel soundtracks in the background. Are you living in my head or something?
EO definitely needs the untold games ported to the switch
Just beat untold 2 with 5 troubadors, you can make anything work if you try hard enough!
I love these games so much, my absolute favorite series after Fire Emblem. More people should give them a go, they're super rewarding!
Your vid on EO2U got me into the series and I love it so far, keep up the good work 🙏
My first game was Etrian Odyssey 1 DS when I was a kid, it was traumatic haha I loved these places so much and the little I understood using the translator xD
My second game was EO4 3DS, I had trust issues on everything, in EO1 even a leaf could kill you lol
love your stuff! thanks for making a video on the interesting mechanics of the series
Omg Rabbit and Steel music
"I do not reccomend starting with EO1 or 2..."
...a bit late for that now.
I uhh, 100% EO1 DS. To be fair, I played it on an emulator, and I probably would've given up on 100% if I didn't have save states. Its also the first game in the series I've played to completion.
I'm almost done with EO2 now, also going for 100%. I have a lot of issues with EO1 and 2, but I enjoyed them enough to keep going. I'm playing them in order, so EO3 is next; I've been hearing good things about it, so I'm hoping it'll be much better than the first 2.
Someone: Mentions Etrian Odyssey
Me: Nice
I got addicted to Venus Blood and never lookee back.
I do agree Survivalist is pretty Pog in 2U.
Probably my favourite rendition of the class. Usually build them as a gathering/Healing class, where I gather materials, sell for Medica, then bonus healing with medica instead of skill points.
Pretty much finished these game's several times over, so much so that i finally migrated to the Nexus(X) overhaul mod. 2 extra classes and rebalanced classes. Its been pretty damn solid so far.
I do think untold 2's story mode party is a bit less new player friendly than untold 1. In the first untold that party really builds itself, super straight forward. Here are the 3 characters that all deal damage, here's a healer, here's a character that can boost everyone's defense. The 3 dps characters can be built in a way where they all compliment each-other, but if you just build them down there own independent paths, they'll all still be great.
Untold 2's story party is a lot more complicated to build. I don't think that's a bad thing, to be clear. But to use Chloe as an example, a new player isn't going to look at her and think "she's going to be great dps if I race to ailing slash and vampire, especially if I make sure Flavio is heavily invested in his debuff skills". Most new players will just make her a mediocre medic.
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I just knew a character named "Palmer" was gonna use the Alchemist Palm skills.
Persona Q and Q2 were my introduction to an Etrian Odyssey style game.
These games are pure gems. I went through EO1 and 4. It was awesome.
Ah yes, the Spinoff series based on Persona Q. My favourite.
Persona Q, aka "What if Persona had actually good, fun gameplay?" You love to see it!
so good that it got the 6th game before persona does
🤔
I only know the series from reading IGN reviews back in the day. The theorycrafting element absolutely looks up my alley.
I've been playing Nexus as my first game in the series and I've had some fun with it. Fun team building and grinding has been something i've always liked in games (mostly in rpgs) and playing Etrian Odyssey makes me wish the Persona q games leaned more into fun team building. Maybe a PQ 3 with Persona 1's persona system could be fun to play with lol.
I just finished EO1 again today. I love this series so much!
this is my second jrpg i’m going to play… i’m terrified
Hey I recognize some of those names.
Seriously need to give this series a genuine shot, I played all of the demos on the 3DS and absolutely loved them!
But I wasn't really sold on spending 40$ on an RPG when I was young so I never got the chance to play them for that long.
Ayo, more Etrian content? I'm eating good.
EO4 was the first I started with and despite it's flaws I tend to also recommend it because it isn't superb. It gives a good baseline and room in both directions.
But that's also based on personal anecdote so I still tend to recommend other EO games.
Also, oh shit, someone else that followed Araxxor's Imperial Only run!
If playing on a modified 3DS, I say play EOIV first so you aren’t spoiled by the speed of the other games! It doesn’t seem that slow as long as you aren’t aware of how fast the other games are. EOIV definitely seems like a community favorite so it’s just not skippable in any way, it also has the best story hands down (which to be fair, is a low bar considering the others don’t have much to go with).
I also agree that it’s the easiest so it’s pretty good in getting people accustomed to the mechanics. The slow speed might actually be good for a beginner here because they can process the turn easier.
I should really play this series more
rabbit and steel and one step osts 🗣🗣 also etrian odyssey is so cool seeming but ive never really tried it, maybe ill finally hop in
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Oof, Benny. Poor Benny. He didn't know what he was getting into.
Yay the best channel about Eo series and FE. When a video of team building and skill points of Eo?? Yes please!!!
EO2U is BY FAR the one of the best entry points imo and FINALLY someone who appreciates the survivalist. EOII was my first entry in the series, so you can imagine the pure excitement I felt when EO2U was announced. Beautiful game, fun game mechanics to abuse the hell out of, and the story mode is actually pretty good and a great way for someone to experience an EO game if they feel like they need a set party with set characters.
I love Etrian Odyssey, I started with EOU1 and then expanded from there. EO5 is by far my favorite.
Watchin' this again so the algo says hello
We actually still missing two games to actually end the whole game story franchise.
I think they are well aware of that and doesn't know what to do...
This is my favorite series 2❤❤❤❤
Funnily enough, I would recommend different parts of the series based on what you'd like to experience.
- EO1 (either version) if you'd like the core Etrian Odyssey experience. Furthermore, EO1 is very simple so it may take a new player by surprise but also doesn't exactly punish poor choices as hard.
- EO3 for my personal favorite, though it is much harder to understand than most others in the series.
- EO4 for the best experience with the series as a whole. It's got a good storyline without needing a fixed party, enemies aren't spongy like in the games that succeed it, and there are a good few strategies to employ.
- Untold 1 or Untold 2 if you'd like a story to guide you through the game. Untold 1 suffers from being a modern-styled Etrian Odyssey while keeping the old-style classes, and Untold 2 suffers from HP bloat though.
thanks for the video
I really hope they bring the 3ds games to the switch and steam soon
personally i couldnt get into Etrian 2 Untold. something about it just made me bounce off of it at or a little after the duo boss fight (i guess it felt too easy). my personal favorite is probably Etrian V, i thoroughly enjoyed that one!
I'm a little disappointed that EO3 HD isnt Untold 3 instead. I did enjoy untold 1 and 2 a lot more because of having a party that isnt generic characters.
I tried to start with 4 on hardware and dropped it, and that really made sense. Will try with another!
I started with 4, but I had a guide nearby.
Once you're more used to how EO works, it's actually a very rewarding title!
I can't believe you made a whole ass video introducing players to EO while only OFFHANDEDLY mentioning the music! Rescind your Town Medal, right now >:(
I mainly know these games through the demos that were available on the 3DS eShop. I don't remember being able to beat any of them... but in fairness, I was, like, 12. Now that I have more than one braincell bouncing around up here, maybe I'll give them another shot in... definitely legal and legitimate ways.
With these games, i always end up making either a shota/loli party or an granpa/granma party with no in-between lol
I will also say sense it never came up, 5 is great (my personal favorite), but it is not a good start point. The early game is hard due to you not having mastery yet, and it has the most impactful choices due to mastery effectively doubling the class amount and the races to pick from (albeit there's like 1 mastery that the 2 good options doesn't include the default), that said it also has my personal favorite classes, the dungeon puzzles are great and mastery despite causing some of my problems is great sense it let's you upgrade your default classes into 1 of 2 upgraded ones and with the smaller skill list with only your race base and master skills there's no fluff skills only ones for different builds
I have had all 3ds EO games since like 2017 or 2018? Haven't played theme at all just got theme when on a really good sale
Never could make it click with this series despite playing most of the games. I typically prefer not to plan ahead since I don't know what enemies come later and that basically forced me to build all rounders. Respeccing I really hated because losing levels means grinding them back up and I really hate grinding. Respeccing for a particular boss also meant that after that boss was done my skillsets would become pretty bad for the next stratum usually.
The game not being forthcoming with its information was also pretty terrible for figuring out if a certain accessory was worth it or not (they are expensive and I hate grinding for money). Or when it's worth putting more points into a skill vs getting more skills.
Also never understood what the difference between legwear, helmets and gloves is.
The series eventually introduced pseudo-tutorials in its Bar facilities, through talking to patrons.
IIRC, legwear supposedly gives you a boost to your action speed during a turn... some weapon types impact that too.
The three types you mention also raise resistance against getting the corresponding body part inflicted with a Bind.
Of course, per series' tradition, they don't give you actual, meaningful values to base your decisions on. Could be 1% for all I know x)
Etrian Odyssey is such a good series. You're over here praising EO2U as the best entry point while I'm over in my friend groups saying how EO2 (and by extension 2u) is one of my least favorites due to the extreme lack of stratum variety (ooo boy i love progressing from a forest to a forest) and i find the games without subclassing much less fun to character build in, even with the advent of grimoires in the untolds. But you made really good arguments and that's awesome. God I love this series.
Meanwhile I started with EOIV, and I'm in love with the exploration aspect, and how you made use of the environment to weaken the Bosses (well 3 of the bosses)
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 IV is my favorite, and the only one in the series i have 100%ed. I tell people to start with III or IV myself. The airship exploration, the environmental puzzles, and the fact 4 has some of my favorite classes easily makes it a top EO for me, even if it is slower
@@kyzo3958 The Speed never bothered me. I didn't even know it was considered an issue until now.
I absolutely loved Links with my Landsknecht. It's so satisfying to pull those long combos.
I don't know if I 100% it, because I didn't beat the final boss's true form, only after weakening it.
And yeah, III with the HD version is the last EO I played, and I like it a lot too!
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I ain't counting beating an unweakened true final boss as 100%. I meant I got all those profile badges, all over world treasures, full item codex, etc
@@kyzo3958 OK! Well, congrats!
Yeah, I never 100% a EO game then
The sad day for those like me who can’t get the 3DS emulator… because this looks so fun
Note, there is no Skill Sim for EO2.
it was never made...
And Skill Sims aren't really updated for HD exactly, last I remember.
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I'd love to hear you're thoughts on Etrian Odyssey Nexus! I've just started a playthrough and can't find a lot of vids on it.
its been 6 years since they put out the teaser for a "next generation" and nothing yet =(
(btw im still mad the poison passive in eo1 doesnt work and has no high level scaling)
I enjoyed persona q and q2 so maybe i should try EO out sometime
Id love to know about the other games in the series like X
Are yes the game that has 5+ titles and has just seen a rerelease to new platforms, not even a year ago.
I sub because you sound like the saints row RUclipsr flippy. I also sub because you like Etrian odyssey
I like eo1 untold. 4 was my first one. I've never been able to get passed the first stratum of eo2 untold though. Speaking of 1 untold, I don't like the grimoire stones. I wanna see what 1 was like without those damn stones.
I got into blobbers recently with stranger of sword city but i found out of EO, touched it and i'm struggling to go bact to SoSC.
UNTOLD 3 WHEN?
Unfortunately Japan hated the Untold games...
I've beaten 2, 4, and 5, and I still suck at party building. Is it a good idea to pick one "main character" first then pick the other four members around them?
After persona Q, i'm surprised there still isn't a dragon quest one
I have to ask, where do you get all that nifty official artwork from?
I would like to use the "They came for our jobs!" image, it's quite funny 😄
Thank you!
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EO3 OST peak
EO4 was my first and I humbly disagree. I think it's still one of the better ones to start with. Though Untold 2 is an easy recommend as well.
I only played eo1 untold's story mode, and while I enjoyed it a ton didn't feel much customisation since reclassing felt so grindy bc of the halved level. I assume future games improve matters
To be honest, EO IV was the easiest to abuse for grinding. The Rare Breed Overworld FOEs can actually be abused to reach high levels…. How do I know? I beat the Final Boss with a level 70 team
I played 2 and oh boy was it hard
Yooo based video
Advice not taken
Now on the 4th stratum of EO1 on ds and hate my life
Thank god for immunize
I liked original DS mostly because Immunize and Relaxing were so broken. Ofc the flower enemies and the fourth stratum's first floor were pretty frustrating, but I can look past that.
The gameplay mechanics sound good but I never got into this series despite being an RPG nut because its all in first person perspective. The character art is nice so its a shame that you don't get to see them fight in battle.
It's as simple as imagining them fighting, that's the fun of it imo. The animations can be as simple or ridiculous as you want them to be. Whenever I'm fighting a boss I imagine the fight in my head as it's happening and boy is it a rush.
Maybe you'd like 7th Dragon?
Forgotten? I don’t think so. After all, it’s Atlus’s only other flagship non SMT franchise with consistent releases. That’s way more than a lot of other Atlus things. **looking at you, Izuna series that was stuck as a duology for years**
Horribly overlooked? Sure.
I compare Etrian Odyssey’s status to something like Touhou. Touhou’s incredibly popular and damn near a cultural icon, but none of that success actually came from the games. It’s quite common to see Touhou fans that have never picked up a Touhou game or a SHMUP in general at that. This is because SHMUPs and Bullet Hells are incredibly niche and specific genres that not too many actually play. Many are too intimidated by all the bullets and precise movement even though your hitbox is miniscule.
Etrian Odyssey's niche status is due to the fact that people will look at dungeon crawling games and write them off immediately. You can see the older Persona games being treated similarly (cutoff is probably OG Persona 4) and even SMT 1 & 2. Double that with how rough Etrian Odyssey is on resources for the first hour and to casual JRPG fans, it's repellent and too frustrating. Meanwhile something like Nocturne sells itself on being hardcore and unfair.
Izuna was made by Success, Atlus just published it outside of Japan.