[MLA] Why I DON'T use Shah Torre (a trip through MLA history)
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
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00:00 The question
03:20 The trio ain't afraid of your damage
06:10 The witcher
09:30 Helikopter Queen
10:55 Order and Chaos to build 
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I am NOT looking forward to the next TM :(
More P2W than Primal Zone like wth
No problem man. Many things important to use the money than just the game
Same I don't think I'll go in this Tinted Mirage
Right with you. This next TM is setting some really bad precedents regardless of how easy these heroes are to unlock.
so true! so pay to win lol i hope they change it :/
9:58 I'm dying 🤣
As always thanks for uploading amazing video like this Chaos ❣. I get knowledge as well as entertainment every time I visit your channel.
Thanks James :D
I am still working my Shar to A2 and now decided to prioritize Rista after then Oberon. Thank you sir.
That epic introduction of Oberon is the hallmark of this video followed by that Japanese style WOWWWW 😂👏🏻❤
Since u said it's not the best time to invest on snake your words made me change my mind now I can build Xeno without worry
As a F2P player, i really need some video like this 🤩🤩 Thanks Chaos 👍👍
I was about to summon snake but Rista has been very helpful to me even at 5*, then I saw that you have an uploaded video, this make me not to invest in snake at all xd.
I think shah torre are better use only in campaign....i mean most of the time......
this guy is basically a hero that people build simply cuz power gap in campaign doesnt effect him at all since the stronger the enemy,the stronger he'll become.
he had a pretty similar case like hayabusa where they get stronger the longer the battle goes on but well haya became one of the best pvp unit cuz he's invincible.if Shahtorre also have this kind of "can't touch me" skill then he would prolly become better than haya or any other invincible unit like wanwan or EVEN.....idk, lunox??
well...... Thats what i got for him🙂
That's right Amy, he has insane damage capability. As long as the enemies are not invincible, he can wipe them out. Which is why I recommend using him in a mirror fight with Oberon :D
Thanks bro as a f2p i focus on pve because like you said we cant compete with the whales so thanks for letting me know who to invest that can help
Hi, once you got Lunox, Akashoc, Shar, definitely go for Rista. Rista will win you a Camp battle regardless of which dam dealer you pair her with ! :D
Same deal with Apostae. She has ludicrous damage when paired with Karihmet, Esme, or Shar, some of the best PvP heroes. The problem that she faced was that the damage alone wasn’t quite enough. She couldn’t break Wannox nor could she break Xeno. Burst damage strategies in general are slowly phasing out as new defensive options make their way into the game. Apostae, Shah, heck even Valir…they will destroy the unprepared in seconds, but those familiar with the meta will always find a way around those sorts of teams.
Hi Creeper, absolutely correct. I don't use Apostae for that exact reason. Though, Apostae would survive better than Shah Torre cause she has a brief period of invincibility near death.
The Bee 🐝 will come for you now, my friend...
Ahaha
Well I think there are only 2 heroes which are unreplaceable in pvp, Shar and Angela. How all other heroes perform depends on the enemy comp. In pve, you can try putting rista behind Shah torre, it can wipe everything in seconds.
Ok, if I knew that Oberon was that good I'd not build Shah Torre now but Oberon instead. And how about the collab hero in the next TM, it's crazy when Moonton made getting those collab heroes harder while being time-limited like that lmfao
Hi, yep it's a bad move from Moonton. Idk why they're releasing collab heroes at the same time, making it difficult for everyone (even the moderate spenders) to get them.
Really appreciate this breakdown and analytics 👍 I always listen to you mate! A couple month a go i ask the same question about o&c heroes who's worth to invest when my shar, lunox and akash finished, and you recommend me xeno bcs oberon and rista not yet released at that time. Now my xeno is ready and she did insane to help war, arena, babel and camp. Then im working for rista, just need maybe a couple big events of sacred oath free to finish her cz my rista already 9star, man even she is on 9 star, she did great! 💃 And the next choice for people who always free to play, maybe i should build beron first huh before jump into toki? Cz i think almost impossible compete ultimate super big freaking whales in my HA server 😂
Hi Salty, I honestly don't know what you should do regarding O/C once Rista is completed. Because whoever you build, won't help much as Moonton made sure the whales stayed far ahead of everyone else. The coming collab is the last nail in the coffin :|
The Collaboration TM event just ended, Chaos. Ruby's released on the test server, are you gonna review her?
Whatever the reason is,it will all come to the same point.
if you can't beat shar,you're doomed
Shah plays a big part in high level Guild Wars
i love your videos we need more videos from you
Hi again! I'm sorry to hear that you are not looking forward for the tinted mirage. So now we have an idea for which special heroes we should invest in. As a free to play player I have to say that building up one takes a very long time but fortunately we can get sacred scrolls from the frontline and in the cloud depot. I need one more copy of Lunox to get her to awakened 8. The next special hero I should build is Shar of course for PvP. But how high should I get her? Should I stop at awakened 2 for glory gems or should I max her out? Thank you for your help.
(Also the part with spinning Esmeralda was do funny 🤣!)
Hi, yes, please stop your investment at Awk2. It will benefit you way more to work on another hero, instead of promoting heroes from A2 to A8. :D
I don't know about the next tinted mirage. I pray it's a good character because I am saving gems rn.
I'm f2p, and have Shar, Lunox, and Akashik all A3-6. Why would you recommend Rista over Oberon for my next hero? (I don't care about pvp that much)
Hi chaos so today i clear 26 - 40 and im now on chapter 27 on campaign and its bc of claude i think i will use him for honor arena on the future is he good for honor arena or no?
Hi Arvil, Claude is good against the Mages like Valir, Odette. I don't see them anymore so Claude had also disappeared in Honor. It depends on your group :D
oh ok! 😋
will there be a review of the characters from the danmachi anime collaboration?
Hi, I'm waiting for the events. We'll see whether their limited summons are justified, but right now it's looking really bad for Moonton.
Can you make a video about 10 best LU for frontline ?
Thanks for vid Chaos
I built Shah Torre cause i have two account , so i like to use different teams and stratetgy
Chaos , my friends challenged me to complete campaign 65-45 before my characters reach lvl 420, is it possible ? I have the trinity , Akashic , Shar and Lunox
Hi Jow, it's absolutely possible. Shah Torre is very good in the Campaign. As soon as you meet the power requirement, you're supposed to win.
i agree with you but i have seen the guy that almost everytime wins the honor arena has a shah torre team that consists of xeno shar shah nana and angela and idk if how good that team is can u tell me ur opinion?
Hi Harry, that's because his group is bad. The team you mention is coming up in the next video :D
I think Shar Torre will be a must if there is a new MLA hero that PERMANENTLY CANCELS invincibility and PERMANENTLY disables all shields and defense
I'm building Oberon first since I've got Wanwan and Mecha Layla maxed out and Lunox at A4. 🤓
I have A8 lunox, A2 shar, A2 akash.
Which should I build next? Oberon, Toki, or xeno?
im a pvp player, question, i still dont understand very well about natan's skill to surpress enemies energy and hp regen, is it only works for 1 target or multiple target? also if it's only affect 1 target and enemies using shar,wanwan lunox,angela, m.layla which of them should i target first with natan? thanks in advance.
natan only affects one people only if you close look to natan after his first attack he shoot the supress energy thing to nearest enemy and i guess ww more good choice for the supress
Hi Reap, the target is the closest enemy to Natan. Wanwan usually gets hit as she jumps into your team formation. Lunox is the 2nd likely target since she usually stands in front.
In Honor however, people will try to avoid getting these heroes hit, if they see Natan in your lineup. So he's not always the answer.
@@ChaosChronicleR1 yeah i thought natan affects multiple enemies but its not
So, there are chances that Shah Torre will be put on the Brawl Shop or is it just me?
Hi, I don't think so. Shah Torre can melt enemies in the Campaign easily. If more Chaos are put into shops, it'll likely be YuZhong or Anna :D
Snake dude is now best in slot hero for Elite Boss Lizard King GBR. Oberon is for Blowgunner tho. And getting high score in GBR is essential to anyone who wish to join Legendary guild. I also heard Nexus investment on Torre making him valuable. Wdyt?
What server are you bro?
what do you think about Hero collab
Bell martial ele
Ais light ele
Hestia order
Can only be obtained during the event
Hi, I am against it. So far we know 2 of them coming out at the same time, limited summons. This will lock out even the moderate spenders from promoting these heroes. It's a collab only for the whales, not a good thing :|
I think Shah is still one of the best heroes for pve. I have tried Oberon and Shah in some different accounts, and Oberon usually need a full investment to be usable but Shah is not. He can win the campaign stage when enemies with 3x,4x power than my squad even when he is just A0 or A1 , no glory gem,... . For someone who don't care too much about pvp like me, Shah definitely is the best option beside Lunox, Shar, Akashic.
I have a question about Oberon and Esmeralda. I found it is hard to use them when enemies team contains some annoying jumpers like Freya, Alucard, ... They will make Esmeralda or Oberon's skills hit less targets and to be less effective. Is there a way to solve this problem, or I need to swap my teams position.
Hi, if PvE is your main concern, go for Lunox, Akashic, Shar, Rista. Your Shah Torre would be extremely helpful in Camp as well.
As for Oberon, he will eventually pull everything towards him. Esmeralda's damage is not enough to kill enemies when the power gap is too big. Who are you using her with?
@@ChaosChronicleR1 Oberon can hook anyone to the front of him but most of the time I try, his ultimate only hit 1 or 2 targets, idk if it happen because I borrow Oberon from my friend or not.
For Esmeralda, I try to use her with Apostae, and actually Esme here to give Apos energy feed and trigger her dot passive. But it seems very hard when I try to group enemies. Esme's ulti usually hit only one target in the backline and let all frontline enemies safe, make this tactic almost fail. Oberon can help in this case, but I think Oberon and Apos - Esme should be in separate teams. One of my friends said a O3 Kadita can help Esmeralda gather enemies in both campaign and tower, but I haven't build her lol.
@@tuongkhanhle6089 Wait what? You actually have an Apostae to use with Esmeralda? Haha that combo is so powerful I don't think you could lose.
If you have trouble, give Esme team Lunox. Your Shar squad is usually fine with Nana in it, it doesn't have to be Lunox.
@@ChaosChronicleR1 ok I will try reallocate heroes for my teams. Thanks for your suggestion.
i have acended lunox wich order/chaos hero next?
as a free to play i can say Shar Torre good in. campaign but bad in pvp
i hope you upload video again hehe
Hi Chaos
we all know that Akashic is OP and fit in all team , can help players in every mode of the game. But i still struggle using Akashic in PvP bc he's always get charmed and buff for the enemy team, then he die🤣🤣. ( My Akashic is A2 with SV30, O9, 5GG)
I'm wonder if i use him in wrong way ?
hope for your answer, thanks a lot
Hi, your Akashic is best used along Shar in PvP. If he's charmed, it won't matter as your Shar is still supposed to cast skill. It's actually good when your Akashic is charmed instead of Shar.
Other than that, Masha can prevent the charm by taking it herself.
@@ChaosChronicleR1 thank you
Can u post TOB VIDEOS only using o/c please
Thanks to you I am called "Big Daddy" on my server 🤝😁♥️
Hello Big Daddy haha. I'm assuming you're dominating your Honor group :D
@@ChaosChronicleR1 о yeah ) just wanted to thank you once again for useful content. With your sense of humour you should do more content on youtube not only for mla
I am waittinng of 2 years for leomord but moontoon not throw him to the game >:((
Oberon , Anna , Angela , Silvana , Akashic is this best for pvp
Chaos esme red vessel or angela red vessel?
Hi ikemen, Esmeralda most definitely. Your Angela success depends on the hero she is buffing. Always work on the dam dealers before you invest in the supports :D
what about Zhask ?! for pvp !!?
I'm starting to regret building the snek now but i have no choice since there's 6 gg waiting 😔
Hi Ken, don't worry. Shah Torre is one of the 2 guys that cannot be charmed, so he can be used. Most players can't fight him.
The problem is i want to compete in pvp too, i was convinced by tier list on discord and people recommending him there even the god bee, but as soon as i saw your vid it convince me that shah would suck in pvp without the right protection like xeno, because of invincible heroes, since i'm f2p my choice is limited, i already reached my camp limit without even shah torre, which is camp 69 mostly using sharnox/aka, odette/lylia etc. What convince mo on shah torre is because others said he is the best dps in the game and i love dps heroes but if he's only good in camp and not endgame pvp then that sucks, my shah is 9*+1 copy and 6 gg, 2 orlay waiting. As a f2p who want to compete in ha, should i ditch him and build oberon instead then toki next ?
I feel like i've made the biggest mistake on mla history because not using my common sense and it somehow disheartened me on the game 😭
@@kenazuma30 Hi again Ken, please check part 3 of Tokinibara review.
Shah Torre is actually recommended to be used along Shar and Tokinibara (this is mostly a whale thing, but so is Oberon). Shah Torre and Oberon are the 2 best candidates for the dam dealer role in a Shar Toki squad.
Important : so for your case, instead of making Oberon to fill the same role, you should go for Tokinibara next and you will have an insanely powerful squad.
The squad : Shar, Tokinibara, Angela, Shah Torre, Clara. ( Angela buff on Shah Torre )
@@ChaosChronicleR1 i see, so there's still hope for shah in pvp, thank god! I thought my invested resource is wasted 😭 i'll follow your advice and just continue shah then build toki next 👌 thank you so much bro as always for very helpful advices and contents that helps us f2p 👊
We even can say gavana is way better than shah torre, that cuz her inumes, huge buff damege and regen make hard to kill she, she onlymiss for now regen energy.
Now one thing is all the tanks are "shit "at the game. I tell why. Let's start old tanks can't hold time enough for your time to survive or do something, they are
*they are so easy counter by kerrie, nimbus eudora, Oberon and others. And even the news tanks they still easy counter by kerrie and oberan. Is kinda sad cuz so many tanks have good abilities but not enough tanky things like hylos, gato, akai. I hope you all get what i said. Most of this tanks are almost or totally useless. I hope moonto nwill give to them buffs.
Pls upload again
1st!!
Hello chaos can you please contact moonton to add milestones achievements to miracle towers just like campaign and Tower of babel based on levels cleared not based on awakening heroes bcz I have a toxic whale in my server unfortunately who is getting everything just with paying and he is bad at the game actually compared to his massive battle power and I managed to get first on elemental tower at 580 levels cleared and his is 555 cleared and all other modes he dominate by massive paying so please just try to contact mla about that it will be much better for other players too to get milestones achievements and thanks 🙏👍
Hi, that would be difficult. I've observed that Moonton only responds to ideas that will make more money. They are specifically concerned with the sales of Legendary skins and O/C heroes.
Next tm nahhh :
This wasn't really good Shah squad, he was even using doll on Shar to make it worse.
Lol not even a good team? Cope
@@SilversTaurus ok but he's right lol
that team was put together badly, both in position and doll choice. It takes credibility away from the video to demonstrate vs that lineup
Kind of implies that this is the only way he was able to make his point. Looks like a whale who threw together their o/c heroes without thinking about any strategy at all because "o/c = good"
Why not use popular positioning/doll shah shar lineups that are used often and are proven to be effective? I've never seen this garbage variety before.
Hi, I literally said that "the team sucks" haha.
At 10:30, you can actually see a good comp getting destroyed by Esmeralda. The problem was the game update that erased the battle record in Honor, otherwise I would show you the fight. All of your Shah Torre comp will face Esmeralda if your opponents are competent.
Maybe try to fight the real team everyone uses with shahtorre haha. The team you are facing is a joke. Shah in pvp is used with Shar xeno nana and Angela.
Hi Gary, got it. Your team comp will lose to Esmeralda the exact same way. It will be included in the next vid :D
Next TM really sucks :(
It's not F2p friendly
Haha yeah. It's not even spenders friendly. It's strictly for the biggest whales in the game.
Apostae>Shah Torre🤪
Haha nah, I believe they are equal. Apostae will suffer from the enemy's charm, but she has a built-in invincibility trigger :D
You dont criticize a hero by showing those weird comps that you beat. Like a Shah Shar comp with dolls on Shar? Who tf would actually do that without trolling? And for your pve content, pls make it x4 bp if you want to judge some heroes OP or not. I dont say Oberon is not great at pve, i use him at x4 bp camp all the time but like Shah, he needs his teammate. Nobody solo carry in x4 bp camp. Shah is not the best hero in pvp obv but hes not that bad like you said either. To prove your point, you need to show the right Shah comps, not just some random weird ass comps like that.
Hi Thai,
1. We can clear the Campaign immediately everytime new chapters come out ( chapter 73 cleared the same day it's released). The Campaign is not a concern.
2. I never said Shah Torre is bad. I said "We never needed him". This is coming from all considerations on a casual account.
3. Why don't you tell me what you think is a good comp for Shah Torre? I will show you how that comp is defeated by Esmeralda the exact same way.
Thanks for your input, Thai :D
@@ChaosChronicleR1
1. It is a concern for others who look up to you because of your pve content without the highest possible bp gap can make them building the wrong heroes. I was talking about all your pve content in general.
2. I know you said you never need him. So do i, but people who watch your video took it the wrong way and seem major already though hes not really good which is not true
3. Oh pls. The way to counter Esmeralda is super easy. All you need to do is put your dolls on lunox at any comp. Even rng favour her with double energy buff. The usual Shah comp i saw is frontline angela dolls on shah so he can hit 5 enemies on his first AA, the follow members are Shar, Clara/Akashic/Rista/Nana etc. The points of the comp is rely on Shah 1st burst for Shar to use ult. But now it less usable due to Toki release
@@huytrum121 Haha I'm confused.
1. If we don't need Shah Torre, why would we suggest him to others, instead of the 7 heroes I put up at the end of the vid? I could not afford to build Torre with the continuous release of Xeno, Oberon.., which means that anybody who has a Torre had made a wrong decision (except for the real whales who build everything).
2. Buffing Lunox to lure Esmeralda is indeed a counter to Esme. But you'll lose the immunity and damage on Torre in the first place. If you buff Torre, he becomes the target. There isn't a strong Shah Torre team comp and you know it. The best way to approach PvP right now is to obtain Tokinibara. Again, you also know that haha. So, I don't see the problem?
@@ChaosChronicleR1 the Shah comp that used in pvp before only just falls off recently due to Toki, but you make it sound like Shah comp never been good which is not true at all. The Angela front in Shah comp had been used by many whales months ago to counter many others shar comp. You've never met an actual Shah comp doesnt mean it didnt exits. So the idea that Oberon over Shahtore before Toki release is kinda wrong in my opinion, Oberon couldnt deal with shar, Shahtore could. But now its different with Toki, Oberon before Shah maybe is a good option
Currently on 67 chap as low spender
I do agre pve point, nobody can solo with x4 power gap
But, i would like to deny bout shah
He's utter trash, his role is just damage dealer. Nothing else
Any other mage like alice can replace him
As matter how hard to obtain him is reason beyond trash comes up
Doll attach to shar is good either
Prevent shar break her chain stunt, especially when it was generate by ai
Torre is overrated.
I haven't got Torre for a year now lmao 🤣🤣.
is the reason You're not looking forward to the next mirage cuz of the hero system or you just wanna rest?😅🥲
It's a quitting point right there Amy. Even if I get those heroes, there will probably be 3 players in my group that will have them. The competition is pretty much gone at that point :|