Smoky Mountain Invite Men's Final Recap - Georgia vs. UMass
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2024
- Surprise finalist UMass takes on Georgia in the Smoky Mountain Invite Men's Final. Check out the highlights here!
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The defender's initial bit of contact is where I see the foul. He's bumping the cutter while moving away from where the disc is going. To box out, he needs to be going towards the disc like he does in the second half of the contact.
Yeah, making that much contact so far off of the trajectory of the disc really looks like he's just blocking the cutter, not boxing out to make a play on the disc.
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IF the foul was called as soon as defender made early contact, it holds merit. If its called once he realized he misread the float, nah.
Don't think its a foul, but the defender doesn't even track the disk to begin with to box out the player, which would read as playing the man and not the disk.
That’s the part that is the foul, since you have to take a path that is also playing the disc. It is hard for us short guys to box out
I wonder when the foul was called. Only sketchy part (to me) seems like the initial arm extension + creating contact.
But if the cutter lets that part go, and only calls foul once he realizes he can't recover - kinda seems unspirited imo
He would have gotten to to the disc if he wasn't tripped by the offensive player. That means he played the disc. Easy no foul on the boxout - initial arm extension is not ideal but I wouldn't call it.
and the defender probably still would have made the play if he had taken the optimal path to the disk that he wasn't tracking...observers make calls on the full context of the play, and by that context the defender was never playing the disk.
@@stevenp4230 yeah, i see that he takes one glance maybe a second after the throw goes up but then b lines to the defenders chest to initiate a box out. I think the observers are ruling that he wasn't actively making a play on the disk, but instead trying to block the offensive players path. I think there was enough hang on that he could have tried to get a cleaner position further into the endzone, the sprinting straight to the cutter and impeding their progress for 30 yards kinda ruins it for me.
not a foul on that last play, if anything, the Defender had pretty good position to start with, turned to find the disc, had a shot at swatting it away, but got his feet tangled up by the Offensive player, so if anything, contact was initiated by the Offense. My guess is that the observers had bad angles to even rule on this, but I'd give the nod to the Defender for being in a great position from the start: NO FOUL. I bet #30 for Georgia is gonna use this as motivation for the rest of the season and get some great D's this year!
it is absolutely a foul by the rules. firstly, the defender plays the cutter and not the disc. the defender initiates contact. the defender reaches out and pushes with his arm to establish position. all 3 of those are separate fouls. if he had gotten to his position earlier and without contact, then yes it would have been a clean box out. but he didn't, and therefore it is 100% a foul. observers got it totally right. a lot of commentators have been making fools of themselves by spreading misinformation regarding this specific play.
I’m not sure how you’re seeing the contact being initiated by the offense, the defense goes straight to them with an extended arm
I think them or Cal Poly are one seed