This is one of the best made and most helpful videos I've seen on RUclips. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. The attention you put into both the video and the jib design is great, I'll be watching more of your videos after this! The jib though will have to wait
defenetly i like how sir Bruce make the whole thing, everything is explained and covered :) but the most interesting part is how the voice is clear and sound great ;P very nice presentation @BrucePhilpott
Very informative video. Can I make a few observations? Re the limited range of servos. You can get - or modify - servos so they become "continuous rotation" rather than the limited 270 degrees of normal servos. (The servo tester should still operate them as that generates a series of pulses) Ideally a microswitch can be added to the gears so they cut the motors at end of zoom / focus range so the servo is not stalled, (and drawing heavy currents/burning out) I notice too some 'bounce' at the end of the jib. I think this can be alleviated by making the tripod pivot higher, and then running a wire from weights, across a pulley at top of tripod down to camera, thus creating two "triangles" The jib won't be able to move downwards as to do so would mean it would have to 'lift' the counterweight, which it physically cannot do. This cable can be tensioned via double ended threaded units, (the name of which escapes me at present) Another alternative to using a dolly on smaller shots might be to use a 'modern' jib/slider. This uses two 'tracks' mounted on the tripod. One has the camera, and one has a counterweight horizontally opposite the camera. (As the camera moves to the left, the weight moves away from the tripod to the right - and vice versa - so that the weight at tripod is zero) This means much less force will be used to tilt the jib arm up or down. True, it has a more limited range of 2 - 3mtr (ie 1mtr - 1.5mtr either side of tripod) and so cannot be swung out over audiences etc. I'm building mine out of bedroom sliding door fittings that use bearing rollers in a "U" channel. I like the idea of using the speaker stand - and using a speaker "Top Hat" so the unit simply slips onto the pole. (I went "heavy duty" and adapted a surveyor's tripod!!) Also like the "U" bracket/tripod support idea. For my pan head, again, I went the long route, and I've designed it to use stepper motors and a 20:1 worm gear. The latter stops the camera from moving from its set position as the gear cannot turn the worm attached to motor. (Mind you, to control it I will have to work on a 'microcontroller' to work out the actual position / desired position / generate pulses) Will keep you posted Again, very interesting video
Like the others, I am too extremely grateful for the knowledge you share here, Bruce. Thank you for taking the time to put this together - and the many PDF on your website.
Bruce OUTSTANDING job. I am completely new to video. I have been searching for someone else that put a servo on the telephoto side to zoom in and out with and your the only one I have founded. I am getting back into wood working and going to video my work. I have purchased a Canon 80D along with wireless lav mic's by Saramonic. I would have used the Rode film maker but the 2.4 frequency is very full around me. Looking to do the zoom like you did but wireless also along with tilt and pan wireless. Arduino boards to build for the controlling them and running wireless side.
Mine is like this: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TS80B?product_id=TS80B&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%2520-%2520Catch-All&adgroup=Catch-All&placement=google&adpos=1o6&creative=156936231009&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAjw87PNBRBAEiwA0XAIrwQLMP8lvxy3lEpdkYbrUWsY68N65E016LkAuksFixYzlCPDTEk8PhoC6HQQAvD_BwE
Great video! It is possible that you may be be able to get more rotational travel from your focus and zoom servos by using a more advanced servo tester that allows extended rates. Nice work.
Well done. Plenty of good ideas and lots of creativity. I do however believe some of the setup is very time consuming and impractical for travel or even moving around. Time to consider drones and motorized gimbals like the ronin. Some of which attach to the crane. I do admire using your brain and honing your skills.
Very impressive and great Video. But for me some things just loook a bit too flimsy and it looks like its gonny take a while to set it up. The electronic Followfocus looks great, maybe i will try that one.
Stepper motors might be cheaper and/or better than servos for some of this, perhaps use Arduino or ESP8266 to drive the motor controllers over bluetooth or wifi. This is fun stuff! Cheers!!
Hi I'm from 5 years in the future (2020). I watched and enjoyed your video. You should have credited the extras who appeared in your video (the wild turkeys and deer) ;p
I'm so surprised nobody mentioned those big hawk type of birds entering the frame in the background at 1:02!!! I have never seen big birds like that in my life, and especially in a town. What are those???
Those are wild turkeys which my camera operator didn't think to tell me about so we could resume shooting when they walked away. We decided it wasn't worth the re-shoot.
Reshoot? Never that's amazing. Do you have a lot of those in your neighborhood? And where do you live? First time I've seen that in my life..! By the way it must have taken you an awful lot of time to make this tutorial with all the DIY stuff, the rather complex editing with VFX, voice over and stuff. Nice job! Keep it up.
I live in northern California. This was shot in a friend's gated community. Yes, it was a lot of work - thanks. I wanted to get my ideas across. I'm hoping they'll be used as springboards for others' creativity.
Bruce Philpott Question, I bought a $59 proam jib stand from amazon, and I find it a bit wobbly with the jib on top if I give it a shake. Would this still work well if it is mounted on a wooden platform to be used as a dolly?
TheAppieJj If the stand is wobbly with the jib on it (with the camera and counterweights on), putting it on a platform will not increase the stability. A lot of the stability of a jib comes from the inertia of the weight on it.
A question, When you pan left to right doesn't that also affect the up and down movement (the cable controlling up & down is pulled or loosened. Do you then do a "2 handed" motion 1) to keep the camera at the appropriate up/down position and the second controlling the left right?
I hadn't noticed that in operation. I'm probably just intuitively compensating for that. Originally, I wasn't even thinking of panning or tilting during a take (from out on the jib), I just planned to do the moves between takes. I'd show, say, a music group from up over "here" for a few moments, then (while other cameras are running) move the jib to over "there" and recompose the scene. It takes me a bit of practice with any given combination of tilt/pan/swing to get it right. I would be terrible (so far) at following a subject's spontaneous moves.
Thanks for making this video. You can increase the focus range by using a larger size gear on the servo. Why are there turkeys and deer walking around?
Thanks for the suggestion, Richard. I've tried to find larger gears, but haven't found any compatible ones yet. The turkeys and deer are just wild and it's not hunting season.
Bruce Philpott I am ashwinkumar chande photographer from India. I am 82 Years old and still active in creative photography/videography. I am impressed by your video on youtube. Can you please give me detailed list of all the materials used in this jib. so that I can try to build it my self here. My e-mail ID ashwin.photographer@gmail.com
ashwin chande The proprietary parts are listed in the video comments ("SHOW MORE"). The rest of the materials are whatever size and shape you have available in your area. For instance, the plywood or aluminium parts can be whatever thickness (metric or inches, etc.) are available to you. The specific measurements don't matter. Have fun modifying my ideas to your own needs.
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its a great concept, but there are way too many moving parts and things that need to be assembled. I feel like to get everything set up it would take around an hour. Time is money... Good job though
The more weight on (both ends of) the jib, the less wobble. Also, the wider the lens the less noticeable is any wobble. I primarily use it to change positions of the camera rather than capturing panning, etc. footage.
Bruce Philpott Thank you. I admire your ingenuity and enthusiasm. What do you think of the idea of bringing a flywheel (as we've begun to see in many sliders) to the jib movement?
Bruce Philpott That's what I thought. I see nothing on the market like that. I own a Rhino Camera Gear EVO Pro slider with a flywheel, and the added inertia it gives is wonderfully smooth... so it got me thinking about jibs. I do not as yet own a jib.
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This is one of the best made and most helpful videos I've seen on RUclips. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. The attention you put into both the video and the jib design is great, I'll be watching more of your videos after this!
The jib though will have to wait
defenetly i like how sir Bruce make the whole thing, everything is explained and covered :) but the most interesting part is how the voice is clear and sound great ;P very nice presentation @BrucePhilpott
Excellent video - and of great value when shopping for a jib - or trying to understand which jib to look for.
I'm thoroughly impressed. The time you've taken into giving us this info is very much appreciated. Thank you for making this!
Super cool Bruce, a great demonstration of your jib,thanks for taking the time to put it together!
Mr Bruce, HATS UP. We all love you.
most EXCELLENT youTube vid on DIY filmMaking i'v ever seen, mate ur a star, keep up the good werk!!
OMG the amount of work you have put into the video is enormous, super impressed, much respect sir
Hats off Bruce, for your time and effort.
Very informative video. Can I make a few observations? Re the limited range of servos. You can get - or modify - servos so they become "continuous rotation" rather than the limited 270 degrees of normal servos. (The servo tester should still operate them as that generates a series of pulses) Ideally a microswitch can be added to the gears so they cut the motors at end of zoom / focus range so the servo is not stalled, (and drawing heavy currents/burning out)
I notice too some 'bounce' at the end of the jib. I think this can be alleviated by making the tripod pivot higher, and then running a wire from weights, across a pulley at top of tripod down to camera, thus creating two "triangles" The jib won't be able to move downwards as to do so would mean it would have to 'lift' the counterweight, which it physically cannot do. This cable can be tensioned via double ended threaded units, (the name of which escapes me at present)
Another alternative to using a dolly on smaller shots might be to use a 'modern' jib/slider. This uses two 'tracks' mounted on the tripod. One has the camera, and one has a counterweight horizontally opposite the camera. (As the camera moves to the left, the weight moves away from the tripod to the right - and vice versa - so that the weight at tripod is zero) This means much less force will be used to tilt the jib arm up or down. True, it has a more limited range of 2 - 3mtr (ie 1mtr - 1.5mtr either side of tripod) and so cannot be swung out over audiences etc. I'm building mine out of bedroom sliding door fittings that use bearing rollers in a "U" channel.
I like the idea of using the speaker stand - and using a speaker "Top Hat" so the unit simply slips onto the pole. (I went "heavy duty" and adapted a surveyor's tripod!!) Also like the "U" bracket/tripod support idea.
For my pan head, again, I went the long route, and I've designed it to use stepper motors and a 20:1 worm gear. The latter stops the camera from moving from its set position as the gear cannot turn the worm attached to motor. (Mind you, to control it I will have to work on a 'microcontroller' to work out the actual position / desired position / generate pulses) Will keep you posted
Again, very interesting video
Good video as I just pulled out an old jib for a short film. I wish you would have uploaded a small video of how it looks using this jib. Thank you.
Like the others, I am too extremely grateful for the knowledge you share here, Bruce. Thank you for taking the time to put this together - and the many PDF on your website.
This is a great jib video! Thank you SO much for helping educate new fans like me!
Now this is top-notch Film-Making - "OM" Bruce Philpott
Saw this on the Frugal Filmmaker FB group Bruce. Interesting video and I picked up on a few new things!
Awesome video.Thanks Bruce!
Also... the turkey's caught me off guard.. haha.
Sir you are a true Master, thanks for sharing this, Blessings !
I was planning to build something similar like this.... really helped a lot .... thank you sir for your effort and sharing the idea
Thank you for such an informative video. Your time and effort are much appreciated!
Bruce OUTSTANDING job.
I am completely new to video. I have been searching for someone else that put a servo on the telephoto side to zoom in and out with and your the only one I have founded. I am getting back into wood working and going to video my work. I have purchased a Canon 80D along with wireless lav mic's by Saramonic. I would have used the Rode film maker but the 2.4 frequency is very full around me. Looking to do the zoom like you did but wireless also along with tilt and pan wireless. Arduino boards to build for the controlling them and running wireless side.
Thank you for all the great info. Could you please provide a link for the speaker stand you bought from Amazon. Thanks...
Mine is like this: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TS80B?product_id=TS80B&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%2520-%2520Catch-All&adgroup=Catch-All&placement=google&adpos=1o6&creative=156936231009&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAjw87PNBRBAEiwA0XAIrwQLMP8lvxy3lEpdkYbrUWsY68N65E016LkAuksFixYzlCPDTEk8PhoC6HQQAvD_BwE
Respect for all the efforts
Great video!
It is possible that you may be be able to get more rotational travel from your focus and zoom servos by using a more advanced servo tester that allows extended rates. Nice work.
Excellent work, Bruce! Glad to see this :)
Thank you so much sir, your video has lot of good tutorial and information.
God bless you sir! I enjoyed this detailed tips and suggestions. Thank you for sharing.
great you took the time to do the video very informal for upcoming filmmakers.
Well done. Plenty of good ideas and lots of creativity. I do however believe some of the setup is very time consuming and impractical for travel or even moving around. Time to consider drones and motorized gimbals like the ronin. Some of which attach to the crane.
I do admire using your brain and honing your skills.
Bruce, You are AMAZINGGGGG. Thanks & well done.
Very very good video presentation. I cant myself doing all that, but this guy has my respect.
Best detailed reviewed video.
Very impressive video and ideas! Thank you for sharing your expertise :)
Mike
this mans voice is so soothing theres just deer casually eating grass in the background while he gives this demo
This video is fantastic. Great share!
Very nice rig! So many tips. Thanks for sharing :)
Thank you so much for making this video and for all the help!
A clamp mount and counterweights from a shoulder rig might work in place of the C clamp for fine tuning in a pinch.
Really ingenious solutions, Thanks for sharing mate
Very impressive and great Video. But for me some things just loook a bit too flimsy and it looks like its gonny take a while to set it up. The electronic Followfocus looks great, maybe i will try that one.
Your a great guy Bruce. Thank you
I am fascinated by all the wild turkeys!!
Great Ideas. You are a master of the filmmaking matter, your work seems to than one of Ron Dexter.
Stepper motors might be cheaper and/or better than servos for some of this, perhaps use Arduino or ESP8266 to drive the motor controllers over bluetooth or wifi. This is fun stuff! Cheers!!
Hi I'm from 5 years in the future (2020). I watched and enjoyed your video. You should have credited the extras who appeared in your video (the wild turkeys and deer) ;p
Great job Bruce!
I found your video both useful and enjoyable :)
Excellent stuff. Thanks for posting.
I'm so surprised nobody mentioned those big hawk type of birds entering the frame in the background at 1:02!!! I have never seen big birds like that in my life, and especially in a town. What are those???
Those are wild turkeys which my camera operator didn't think to tell me about so we could resume shooting when they walked away. We decided it wasn't worth the re-shoot.
Reshoot? Never that's amazing. Do you have a lot of those in your neighborhood? And where do you live? First time I've seen that in my life..!
By the way it must have taken you an awful lot of time to make this tutorial with all the DIY stuff, the rather complex editing with VFX, voice over and stuff. Nice job!
Keep it up.
I live in northern California. This was shot in a friend's gated community. Yes, it was a lot of work - thanks. I wanted to get my ideas across. I'm hoping they'll be used as springboards for others' creativity.
Those are my crocs
Really great tips, thanks for posting this.
Absolutely brilliant!
TheAppieJj Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Bruce Philpott Question, I bought a $59 proam jib stand from amazon, and I find it a bit wobbly with the jib on top if I give it a shake. Would this still work well if it is mounted on a wooden platform to be used as a dolly?
TheAppieJj If the stand is wobbly with the jib on it (with the camera and counterweights on), putting it on a platform will not increase the stability. A lot of the stability of a jib comes from the inertia of the weight on it.
Awesome video.Thanks and God Bless.
Creative mind, nice going
This is awesome and ingenious.
A question, When you pan left to right doesn't that also affect the up and down movement (the cable controlling up & down is pulled or loosened. Do you then do a "2 handed" motion 1) to keep the camera at the appropriate up/down position and the second controlling the left right?
I hadn't noticed that in operation. I'm probably just intuitively compensating for that. Originally, I wasn't even thinking of panning or tilting during a take (from out on the jib), I just planned to do the moves between takes. I'd show, say, a music group from up over "here" for a few moments, then (while other cameras are running) move the jib to over "there" and recompose the scene. It takes me a bit of practice with any given combination of tilt/pan/swing to get it right. I would be terrible (so far) at following a subject's spontaneous moves.
Thanks for making this video. You can increase the focus range by using a larger size gear on the servo. Why are there turkeys and deer walking around?
Thanks for the suggestion, Richard. I've tried to find larger gears, but haven't found any compatible ones yet. The turkeys and deer are just wild and it's not hunting season.
Bruce Philpott I am ashwinkumar chande photographer from India. I am 82 Years old and still active in creative photography/videography. I am impressed by your video on youtube. Can you please give me detailed list of all the materials used in this jib. so that I can try to build it my self here. My e-mail ID ashwin.photographer@gmail.com
ashwin chande The proprietary parts are listed in the video comments ("SHOW MORE"). The rest of the materials are whatever size and shape you have available in your area. For instance, the plywood or aluminium parts can be whatever thickness (metric or inches, etc.) are available to you. The specific measurements don't matter. Have fun modifying my ideas to your own needs.
I love the lav mic's quality
great ideas
Bruce, i NEVER EVER subscribe or like ANYTHING! but ur zite has awe struck me to the n th degree, you can consider me an avid follower.
Man, look at these codgers go! Great video
Awesome video my friend! subscribed :)
Very nice video :)
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Love this video, but, is this entirely ADR'd?
Yes, it is. One whole day's audio was corrupt, so i just decided to ADR it. The footage about the servos was the original audio, though.
Thank you so so much!
its a great concept, but there are way too many moving parts and things that need to be assembled. I feel like to get everything set up it would take around an hour. Time is money... Good job though
If you combined a wizard, a genius, and MacGiver into one cameraman, his name would be Bruce Philpott.
Thank you
What kind of engineering is required at this point if you are to focus on developing your work to lose the _wobble_ ?
The more weight on (both ends of) the jib, the less wobble. Also, the wider the lens the less noticeable is any wobble. I primarily use it to change positions of the camera rather than capturing panning, etc. footage.
Bruce Philpott Thank you. I admire your ingenuity and enthusiasm.
What do you think of the idea of bringing a flywheel (as we've begun to see in many sliders) to the jib movement?
Sure - a spinning flywheel could act as a kind of gyro.
Bruce Philpott That's what I thought. I see nothing on the market like that. I own a Rhino Camera Gear EVO Pro slider with a flywheel, and the added inertia it gives is wonderfully smooth... so it got me thinking about jibs.
I do not as yet own a jib.
hello, you can check the bascom mp 101 for better move on till and pan
Does the Bascom you own give you fluid movement? I've seen ads but never had my hands on one. The price is certainly low.
+Bruce Philpott I will make a video this week to show you how is look
Great! I hang a 5DII plus FF and zoom servos on my jib. Sometimes I'm using a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 lens. That's a lot of weight to steer around.
+Bruce Philpott well in this case you can use a movo photo mgb-5. This support until 11 lb and is 360°
@6:30 pretty much using the jib as a stationary steady-cam
thanks
good