I never realized how much I loved Johnny calling golf tournaments until he left. He was awesome to listen to, and never afraid to give his opinion. We miss you Mr. Miller.
they do a great mother's day brunch - and they held the senior tournament there, too - I came up and watched them one year, saw Chi-Chi Rodriguez take a 9 on a par 3. I was amazed how far the old-dodgers could still hit them.
"If you want to be a complete player", i.e., "if you're that into the game to know any ballflight".Miller always adds something fresh to this important game.
Great advice! I once met Johnny Miller in person, he shook my hand and told me I had a future in the game. I ended up teaching chemistry and biology for years, often wonder now what life would have been like if I'd of just hung in there w/ the golf.
Probably you did right. It's a hard life to be a professional Sportsman or Artist, most people are not made for that. But of course there are some, who regret, that they didn't even try or some, which lost their way ( " Walter White " in " Breaking Bad "). I was lucky, to have it both, playing music professional and teaching, now looking for my third life ;-)
Thank you Mr. Miller, very well explained, verbally and specially, physically (you must have spent a lot of time with Mr. Treviño, you have the “Treviño swing” down!!) 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼⛳️🏌️♂️
I have done this and wish I could make it a habit; it sure keeps the hooks and slices from happening. It's simple yet effective. You must hit straight shots and stay in the fairway to shoot par. Thanks, Mr. Miller, nice one.
I tried the Trevino move a few years ago and my right elbow has never been the same as i must have extended the ligaments. There was swelling the following morning and still have some minor pain. Lee is my all time favorite golfer but his technique should be copied carefully...and make sure its a warm day
Looked to me that Trevino's butt would move away from the target line when he started his downswing and would stay there through impact which gave his arms a lot of room to make the swing Miller describes. It seems very subtle but I see Miller do that when he demonstrates Trevino's shot in this video. I could be wrong and often am.
Did any of you actually see Miller play? In his day, he was one of the most accurate iron players ever. I read he clubbed to 2.5 yards which I have never heard anyone else even attempt. Miller might be called a "flash in the pan" because his career wasn't very long, but there was a stretch where his game was every bit as good as ANYONE who ever played the game. I think he is a great announcer, because he truly knows the game and he doesn't give idle praise. Maybe his ego rubs people the wrong way, but that doesn't discount his credibility.
I don't deny his talent. I never saw him, I know he shot 63 at Oakmont and all that. I'm sure he's a great of the game. But his personality is the absolute worst. He acts like the GOAT and guess what-- he's not, and he's not even close (not sure he's even top 20). I don't care about small sample sizes. Last year Jason Day was going to take over the golfing world. Dustin Johnson was going to win every tournament this year. Jordan Spieth was going to surpass Tiger Woods, people said in 2015. The key to true greatness is consistency and longevity. I'd rank at least: Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Jones, Watson, Woods, Mickelson, Nelson, Snead, Hogan all above him. I'd put Seve and Faldo ahead of him. With just TWO major championships, he is more in the category of Dustin Johnson, Jason Day, Curtis Strange, Larry Nelson, Nick Price, Hale Irwin. All great major champions, but not the cream of the crop. You're probably right in that Miller was as good as anyone during a short period, but the same could be said for many, many golfers including many who I've already listed.
I don't think he acts conceited at all. He just says what's on his mind, and doesn't try to sugarcoat anything. He could be more diplomatic at times, but more often than not, the points he makes are accurate and insightful. I don't understand at all the criticism he gets as an announcer.
You must want to hear somebody kiss the ass of all these players, but some people don’t want the PC version. Some players don’t like it because the truth hurts.
Career was very long? 1st Win 1971 last 1994! He won in England Japan France South Africa Thailand! He won the best golf courses in America! Pinehurst Firestone Riviera Torrey pine Oakmont etc
25 tour wins including 2 majors, a US and a British Open. 8 wins in 1974. Yikes! He's got the cred and the legendary status. Besides, he's damn funny. I was sorry when he retired.
Interestingly enough he also played with a fairly shut face at the top of his backswing which allows him to do this move and not block it 40 yards right.
Exactly. So much of what people get wrong, starts with the face. Once it's open, you have to close it. Seems obvious. Problem with that is, that forward shaft-lean opens it. Most people don't understand this. Your brain won't let you take something that's already too open, and then open it more. The ball would go a mile to the right, like you said. So they flip at the ball, producing reverse shaft-lean, which closes the face, in a feeble attempt to square it up. It's no way to swing. Just don't let the face get too open in the first place, and getting to impact is so much easier.
I do Lee Trevino signature move all the time without trying. Like how he used to aim for the bunker because he was really good out of the sand. better than he was in rough. Well I do that without even trying.
In his day he dominated. Unfortunately, that dominant stretch didn't last all that long, but when he was on top of his game he was nearly unbeatable. Truly one of the all time greats.
Johnny had an incredible stretch of golf in the mid to late seventies. He was tough to beat. His putter was his achillies heel, and led to his game unraveling -- right into the broadcast booth. We gained a great broadcaster, but lost a great player. damn putter! Remember watching Nicklaus and Miller at Olympic Country Club -- Miller's home course. Nicklaus at the age of 58 smoked Miller. Nicklaus torched the course, and Miller couldn't find a green or make a putt to save his life. It all stemmed from his putting woes and it bled into every aspect of his game, including the mental game. Olympic was a perfect example of what can happen to a player when the blade is inconsistent. Love Miller, and can only wonder what he would've accomplished if his putter remained true, because he was one determined and competitive SOB. Just the same, he's given the world a unique perspective from the broadcast booth. God works in mysterious ways.
Yup, I never saw the ball until it was 100 feet off the club head. En Passant, Miller's 63 in The Open scared The U.S.G.A. more than any one thing Tiger ever did. Greatest Golf I ever saw.
Seems like a lot of people here have Johnny Miller envy or something. Fact, he knows more about the swing than all of you combined and oh BTW, the reason he stays on TV is because he is a good announcer and adds a lot to the broadcast and most people wouldnt last a minute in that role.
He was one guy who never backed off when he had it going. When he had it 8 under the last day at Oakmont, on the 18th tee no one ever went after a drive the way he did - he wanted a 62, not a 63.
I think johnny Miller as a commentator forgot what it was like to play competitive golf and that fact that everyone fools up if they are in the mix enough - anyone disagreeing hasn’t really played enough competitive golf
Trevino -- one of the most under-appreciated ball-strikers of the golf ball ever. Nicklaus said Trevino and Hogan were the best ball-strikers ever. EVER.
Thanks John, golf was too simple for me, I needed something else to try to remember to do in a quarter of a second. Trevino made this work for him, FOR HIM. It doesn't mean it would work for someone else.......there is NO magic formula in golf......
I know that Johnny Miller was one of the best in his prime, but I really think this is completely wrong and bad advice for the average golfer and I hear him say this stuff all the time on TV! Trevino wasn't trying to guide the club face down the target line with a chase move. His body dipped because of the way he used his hips and lower body engine much like Hogan.
Johnny miller doesnt know he doesnt know anything! Trevino never tried to go down the line just like no good hitter ever!!! Will ever try to go down the line its not how a golf club works its supposed to work back inside on the follow through
He also dipped because he started the club back outside and pulled his right elbow into his side on the downswing and swinging inside. I learned to swing that way from a Trevino book. That chasing the ball look is from keeping the clubhead from turning over, which makes the right arm take longer to straighten in the follow through.
Hogan said he drove the right hand right down the plane line, not inside. It does go inside due to the left shoulder going inside, but nevertheless, he did drive the right hand down the plane line. How much extra he go in linear deviation is a guess. Maybe an inch or two? Same for Moe Norman. Trevino drove the right shoulder, same effect.
This is really terrible camera work here. The camera person doesn't show the swing at all. I can't see the finish position which he is highlighting at all.
no.. wrong.. he hit down on the ball with the left.. down to the line with leg work. just because you figured one swing out does not make you an expert on other swings.
I agree. He has no clue why Trevino did that. He is just as vague on other "pearls of wisdom" that he dispenses in this series. His sponsors love him though.
@@nigelburkitt6365 No, Miller is correct. In 1971, Trevino went on the Mike Douglas show (shortly after winning 3 National Opens), and Douglas - a golfer himself - asked Lee for a tip. Trevino said he kept it very simple (paraphrasing slightly): "At address, the back of my left hand is square and pointing at the target. I keep it pointing at the target at impact, and well after I've hit the golf ball." He demonstrated the motion to Douglas, and it was essentially what Johnny Miller is saying.
I never realized how much I loved Johnny calling golf tournaments until he left. He was awesome to listen to, and never afraid to give his opinion. We miss you Mr. Miller.
Amen- now we have Davis Love 3 are you kidding me! I am sure Davis is a nice guy but zero personality.
Yeah and azinger. :(
SIR Faldo is unbareable
Roger that !
Amen!
Johnny is the best in the business at isolating intricacies of the swing and explaining the key part where it is easy to implement.
Two of my all time favorites to learn from! Johnny and Lee. We miss you on TV!
jonny miller one greatest to ever play. hey jonny how's your knee doing. was great to watch you win one more time at your home course.
like Lee used to say, "i can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen"
Silverado Country Club - Heaven on earth. I worked there in the 1980s and met Trevino and lot of other senior pros and celebs. Awesome place.
they do a great mother's day brunch - and they held the senior tournament there, too - I came up and watched them one year, saw Chi-Chi Rodriguez take a 9 on a par 3. I was amazed how far the old-dodgers could still hit them.
Thanks. I was wondering where that was filmed.
Do they serve creamed chipped beef on toast. Hot and creamy with bacon? If so I'm going there!!
"If you want to be a complete player", i.e., "if you're that into the game to know any ballflight".Miller always adds something fresh to this important game.
Great advice! I once met Johnny Miller in person, he shook my hand and told me I had a future in the game. I ended up teaching chemistry and biology for years, often wonder now what life would have been like if I'd of just hung in there w/ the golf.
Probably you did right.
It's a hard life to be a professional Sportsman or Artist, most people are not made for that.
But of course there are some, who regret, that they didn't even try or some, which lost their way ( " Walter White " in " Breaking Bad ").
I was lucky, to have it both, playing music professional and teaching, now looking for my third life ;-)
I remember an interview with Jack years ago and the subject of ball strikers came up. Jack said two names; Hogan and Trevino.
Everyone knows it's Mo Norman though...nobody else came close.
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Thank you Mr. Miller, very well explained, verbally and specially, physically (you must have spent a lot of time with Mr. Treviño, you have the “Treviño swing” down!!) 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼⛳️🏌️♂️
Thanks Mr. Miller for sharing this with us. Appreciate it.
Thank you for the tip Mr. Miller.
Johnny was a great player and even better commentator.
I'd rather CBS fire Faldo and hire Miller
Thanks Johnny. Great video
god, I miss Johnny Miller. He made all the wootle prima donas cwy wike woootle babies with his accurate commentary.
I have done this and wish I could make it a habit; it sure keeps the hooks and slices from happening. It's simple yet effective. You must hit straight shots and stay in the fairway to shoot par. Thanks, Mr. Miller, nice one.
I miss Johnny calling tournaments specially when the front runners start "leaking oil"!
It’s like all pros have turned into snowflakes and can’t take criticism.
@@geedubb-q1u you mean like the society in general
I tried the Trevino move a few years ago and my right elbow has never been the same as i must have extended the ligaments. There was swelling the following morning and still have some minor pain. Lee is my all time favorite golfer but his technique should be copied carefully...and make sure its a warm day
5 years later ... how is your elbow feeling these days?
@@quantumpotential7639 Better thanks
Looked to me that Trevino's butt would move away from the target line when he started his downswing and would stay there through impact which gave his arms a lot of room to make the swing Miller describes. It seems very subtle but I see Miller do that when he demonstrates Trevino's shot in this video. I could be wrong and often am.
Did any of you actually see Miller play? In his day, he was one of the most accurate iron players ever. I read he clubbed to 2.5 yards which I have never heard anyone else even attempt. Miller might be called a "flash in the pan" because his career wasn't very long, but there was a stretch where his game was every bit as good as ANYONE who ever played the game. I think he is a great announcer, because he truly knows the game and he doesn't give idle praise. Maybe his ego rubs people the wrong way, but that doesn't discount his credibility.
I don't deny his talent. I never saw him, I know he shot 63 at Oakmont and all that. I'm sure he's a great of the game. But his personality is the absolute worst. He acts like the GOAT and guess what-- he's not, and he's not even close (not sure he's even top 20). I don't care about small sample sizes. Last year Jason Day was going to take over the golfing world. Dustin Johnson was going to win every tournament this year. Jordan Spieth was going to surpass Tiger Woods, people said in 2015. The key to true greatness is consistency and longevity. I'd rank at least: Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Jones, Watson, Woods, Mickelson, Nelson, Snead, Hogan all above him. I'd put Seve and Faldo ahead of him. With just TWO major championships, he is more in the category of Dustin Johnson, Jason Day, Curtis Strange, Larry Nelson, Nick Price, Hale Irwin. All great major champions, but not the cream of the crop. You're probably right in that Miller was as good as anyone during a short period, but the same could be said for many, many golfers including many who I've already listed.
I don't think he acts conceited at all. He just says what's on his mind, and doesn't try to sugarcoat anything. He could be more diplomatic at times, but more often than not, the points he makes are accurate and insightful. I don't understand at all the criticism he gets as an announcer.
You must want to hear somebody kiss the ass of all these players, but some people don’t want the PC version. Some players don’t like it because the truth hurts.
Career was very long? 1st Win 1971 last 1994! He won in England Japan France South Africa Thailand! He won the best golf courses in America! Pinehurst Firestone Riviera Torrey pine Oakmont etc
25 tour wins including 2 majors, a US and a British Open. 8 wins in 1974. Yikes! He's got the cred and the legendary status. Besides, he's damn funny. I was sorry when he retired.
IMO when JM speaks one should listen ! You may or may not like him but don't let that get in the way of his knowledge.
Interestingly enough he also played with a fairly shut face at the top of his backswing which allows him to do this move and not block it 40 yards right.
Exactly. So much of what people get wrong, starts with the face. Once it's open, you have to close it. Seems obvious. Problem with that is, that forward shaft-lean opens it. Most people don't understand this. Your brain won't let you take something that's already too open, and then open it more. The ball would go a mile to the right, like you said. So they flip at the ball, producing reverse shaft-lean, which closes the face, in a feeble attempt to square it up. It's no way to swing. Just don't let the face get too open in the first place, and getting to impact is so much easier.
Trevino aimed Left and hit a Block down the middle.
So does Freddie Couples.
Compare their Backswings.
Lee "at the top" is Freddie's 3/4 Position.
I do Lee Trevino signature move all the time without trying. Like how he used to aim for the bunker because he was really good out of the sand. better than he was in rough. Well I do that without even trying.
How to discover your authentic swing - www.makingaclubchampion.com/how-to-discover-your-authentic-golf-swing/
Johnny Miller played some incredible golf in his day.
I have a par 4 ace on Johnny's Course called Whitney Oaks, where Natalie Gulbis and Cameron Champ played junior and high school golf
In his day he dominated. Unfortunately, that dominant stretch didn't last all that long, but when he was on top of his game he was nearly unbeatable. Truly one of the all time greats.
Johnny had an incredible stretch of golf in the mid to late seventies. He was tough to beat. His putter was his achillies heel, and led to his game unraveling -- right into the broadcast booth. We gained a great broadcaster, but lost a great player. damn putter!
Remember watching Nicklaus and Miller at Olympic Country Club -- Miller's home course. Nicklaus at the age of 58 smoked Miller. Nicklaus torched the course, and Miller couldn't find a green or make a putt to save his life. It all stemmed from his putting woes and it bled into every aspect of his game, including the mental game. Olympic was a perfect example of what can happen to a player when the blade is inconsistent. Love Miller, and can only wonder what he would've accomplished if his putter remained true, because he was one determined and competitive SOB. Just the same, he's given the world a unique perspective from the broadcast booth. God works in mysterious ways.
Good stuff. Thanks Johnny
I bet Johnny Miller is one helluva match on a ping pong table.
This works. I feel im throwing an underarm throw and see my right elbow at impact.
Johnny Miller, commenting on a player who lost a big lead on Sunday:: "Man, that's choke city right there, folks."
Yup, I never saw the ball until it was 100 feet off the club head. En Passant, Miller's 63 in The Open scared The U.S.G.A. more than any one thing Tiger ever did. Greatest Golf I ever saw.
Seems like a lot of people here have Johnny Miller envy or something. Fact, he knows more about the swing than all of you combined and oh BTW, the reason he stays on TV is because he is a good announcer and adds a lot to the broadcast and most people wouldnt last a minute in that role.
He had serious game and is an excellent commentator. Not afraid to push the envelope with his comments!
He was one guy who never backed off when he had it going. When he had it 8 under the last day at Oakmont, on the 18th tee no one ever went after a drive the way he did - he wanted a 62, not a 63.
I'm amazed how there are so many pro's here.
Bobby S ... Range F*ckn Pro here... Just ask.. I'll tell ya..
Perhaps it's a great tip for hitting the ball to land on the green with an iron? I will try it.
Lee has more golf knowledge than anyone, ever
Really liked his commentary
"Thanks wind!" Remember that one Johnny?
what an incredible tip.
I think johnny Miller as a commentator forgot what it was like to play competitive golf and that fact that everyone fools up if they are in the mix enough - anyone disagreeing hasn’t really played enough competitive golf
Camera little close lol... cant see the swing
Johnny Miller saying "u gotta be kidding me"
Yet another great product placement Johnny, nearly as good as Gary Player. Oh yes the lesson..... just check your medical insurance everyone.
Dustin Johnson will drop down and chase it.
Boy I’d be super reluctant to give this advice to a mid handicap or higher. You could see this going wrong in all sorts of ways
if I'd chased it down the line I would have already dislocated my shoulders and elbows.
i didnt take this tip seriously before, but it really works.
Mahavishnu8
Would love to see you back on NBC Johnny. I respect you wanting to retire but damn you were good.
Trevino -- one of the most under-appreciated ball-strikers of the golf ball ever. Nicklaus said Trevino and Hogan were the best ball-strikers ever. EVER.
You're a total idiot if you think Trevino was ever an ' under-appreciated ball-striker '
jeeze.................
@@eggsmann594 You sound nice.
Gary Player said the same thing.
That's very interesting. Maybe slightly
smaller people should swing like this ?!
I take it Lee kept the club square to the flight line longer doing this? May I suggest this is not the only way ie. Mike Austin
I've never heard anyone big themselves up more than Johnny Miller
How did lean Johnny Miller end up looking like Jack Nicklaus🤔
Never be as good as your mind thinks you are
Bad camera view. Didn't get to see the whole swing
Thanks John, golf was too simple for me, I needed something else to try to remember to do in a quarter of a second. Trevino made this work for him, FOR HIM. It doesn't mean it would work for someone else.......there is NO magic formula in golf......
Great
Johnny, hit the gym. Ay least 3 times a week.
looks like all the negative comments are actually from players that Miller insulted on tv for 30 years 😂
Johnny Miller had the 3 rd best swing in my opinion of the old timers no 1 was Ben Hogan 2 Was Tom Weiskopf and Miller 3rd.
I know that Johnny Miller was one of the best in his prime, but I really think this is completely wrong and bad advice for the average golfer and I hear him say this stuff all the time on TV! Trevino wasn't trying to guide the club face down the target line with a chase move. His body dipped because of the way he used his hips and lower body engine much like Hogan.
Exactly! His club worked right back up the plane jo
Johnny miller doesnt know he doesnt know anything! Trevino never tried to go down the line just like no good hitter ever!!! Will ever try to go down the line its not how a golf club works its supposed to work back inside on the follow through
He also dipped because he started the club back outside and pulled his right elbow into his side on the downswing and swinging inside. I learned to swing that way from a Trevino book. That chasing the ball look is from keeping the clubhead from turning over, which makes the right arm take longer to straighten in the follow through.
Hogan said he drove the right hand right down the plane line, not inside. It does go inside due to the left shoulder going inside, but nevertheless, he did drive the right hand down the plane line. How much extra he go in linear deviation is a guess. Maybe an inch or two? Same for Moe Norman. Trevino drove the right shoulder, same effect.
True. He wasn't chasing the clubhead down the target line (like Trump), he was preventing the clubhead from flipping over. Miller is so wrong.
That swing has gotta hurt - certainly not for the over 60 crowd.
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This is really terrible camera work here. The camera person doesn't show the swing at all. I can't see the finish position which he is highlighting at all.
But you get the picture?
Pl remove the bumper at the beginning- once was enough, dont have to be on every video
how ignurt
Johnny & his Mormon Magic Underwear. ...
Little out of breath from that, Johnny ?
hey, love your tubes, man.
a phillilittle ps
= Moe Norman
Miller is 100x more likable as a teacher than as an announcer.
a lot like pink pong lol
I get what he's saying but ummm doesn't look quite the same...
Ben Hogan: you have to get up to hit down.. what about that?
Hunter Mahon on that cover didnt age well sadly.
Horrible. If i do that my knees will collapse and i will top the ball.
no.. wrong.. he hit down on the ball with the left.. down to the line with leg work. just because you figured one swing out does not make you an expert on other swings.
Moe Norman chased it down the line longer..
Whose stomach are you copying?
Seems out of breath. See a doctor
Johnny Miller needs to lose some serious weight. He was breathing hard after doing that short demonstration of Lee Trevino’s swing.
Some people should not teach. Johnny was a great player but knows nothing about the golf swing.
Douglas Warner ???
I agree. He has no clue why Trevino did that. He is just as vague on other "pearls of wisdom" that he dispenses in this series. His sponsors love him though.
Knows nothing? He won 25 PGA events, including 2 majors, and Miller said Tiger Woods asked him to teach him.
@@nigelburkitt6365 No, Miller is correct. In 1971, Trevino went on the Mike Douglas show (shortly after winning 3 National Opens), and Douglas - a golfer himself - asked Lee for a tip. Trevino said he kept it very simple (paraphrasing slightly): "At address, the back of my left hand is square and pointing at the target. I keep it pointing at the target at impact, and well after I've hit the golf ball." He demonstrated the motion to Douglas, and it was essentially what Johnny Miller is saying.