People who think this is "rude" have only had yes men around them. This type of coaching will actually help this guy make that push from D2 into the higher tiers of Masters and GM - you aren't going to magically break your bad macro habits without some strong coaching like this. Other coaches will just take your money and just make you feel good with some light advice but Perry actually cares about the client and his progress, which is why it comes off as "harsh" to some. League is just like any other sport and if you're serious about improvement you need a coach like Perry. Really good content Perry! Keep it up man!
^He takes his time to review a lower elo person to help him climb. Those might be habbits that have been set in stone over multiple years. just saying "yeah ok, just do this, just do this" wtihout getting any negative feedback on your 'flow', not much would have been changed. Really great couch, sounds a little rude, but he is correct.
I've also been coaching this student for a few weeks. He's a top 1% player in other games. I'm holding this guy to very high standards. He wants to hit challenger and I'm gonna push him.
@perryjg it still wasn't cool to call him a pussy.. He wasn't giving the same energy back. No hate, I have learned from your content. But I'd like to see more sincerity when correcting your clients' mistakes. Maybe if he was giving the same energy back, it wouldn't have been so rough.
@@johnadams5694 We are grown man, doesn't going to hurt him, gotta be real too. I get what u getting at but I agree with his approach to force certain habbits out of someones mind.
@@Lone_Wolf_91 Calling someone a pussy isn't necessary for forcing a habit out of someone's mind. But to each their own. Imagine if school teacher's taught college kids like that. Called him fucking names for getting answers wrong. Being "grown" has nothing to do with it.
I just started jungling last week and Perry might be the only channel that feels consistent and knows what they are doing. I feel like I can get to Gold then I might buy a training session once I get to the point where when I watch these videos. I am 100%, I am one tricking and dodging any games that I don't get to play my champ until I hit gold I am tempted to add a second champion, I am not going to because I truly believe if I follow the advice Perry gives I will climb.
Those second grubs, you told him not to worry about the Sion. Then on review, you gave him shit for not fighting the Sion. Very inconsistent info, man.
He didnt have big windows to fight there, telling him to go fight Sion when it needs to be a decision made in a second will only confuse things imo. He does mention at the start of the sequence that he can look for fight w Sion as well
I mean yeah he could be less offensive. I do think people have to realize it takes small things to climb in diamond to master. Surely if he has a gold client he can focus on more obvious things, but in diamond 2 you gotta do specific things to carry games.
I fixed the corrupt game downloads by going into my files and deleting the file I just downloaded and redownloading it. It worked for some reason and it stopped corrupting my future games
This has been my favorite channel over the last year, but is it just me or is the coaching way more toxic now? Just doesn’t feel like the same wholesome Perry
WELL... There's a reason why Neace and Tarzaned found so much success, but I am receiving this feedback well. For some more context, I've also been coaching this student for a few weeks. He's a top 1% player in other games. I'm holding this guy to very high standards. He wants to hit challenger and I'm gonna push him.
@@zacharyconner9319 1) this isn’t other sports, 2) I coach martial arts and have been coached my whole life in martial arts as well as organized sports and it is much different. I’m not sure if Perry was trying to be extra for content but it wasn’t his normal style. Even Tarzaned in his coaching videos isn’t too bad honestly and that’s just his personality anyway. Perry is much more educational and instructive which is why I prefer his style. This just felt out of character or maybe a new direction he’s going. Idk but to say all coaches are rude or condescending to their students just isn’t reality or a fair assessment. Straight forward and direct - yes, but not rude or condescending.
Nothing unpleasant to me. That's how you learn shit anyway, if there is no full engagement, you remember much less afterwards. What this "delivery" does show is that he cares for his client's improvement. I'm new to the jungle role and I swear I've learned so much from this session as I never did before
I see what u doing with your approach, would do it a little differently but u definitely need to forced bad habits out of someones mind and being candy nice all the time isn't going to do the job, I played WoT for over 10y and would always add ^disclaimer^ don't take my talking too personal bc I only care for what's right atm and if u fucked up You fucked up and only u need to understand that and there is no reason to be mad at me, u just gotta own it, it's 15v15 clan wars, so there is a lot of going on having 15+ ppl on discord. Nice coaching, knowing things is one thing, doing them as game is played is something entirely different.
Gold Shyvana OTP haha, havent played a massive load of games but 230k mastery. But like you said “afk farming” I was kinda guilty of this, being way more active checken and pinging now. And yea when there are opportunities take them and dont play farming simulator.
Before you can improve on something, you have to realize that you NEED to improve on it. Many people don't realize how bad they are at what they're doing, and so they never even consider looking for a better paradigm or updating their methods/attitude. When dealing with people who are resisting realizing that they are bad at something, you have to sometimes interrupt their automatic EGO defenses with some pure and honest feedback regardless of how it'll make them feel. Perry isn't rude in any of his streams or videos, he's literally the most level headed coach ive watched in the league community so far. also if you're more worried about your ego/how you feel than you are about improving then you don't deserve to improve anyways.
i mean, he has to get alot of information out in a very short amount of time. There isn't really time for pleasantries and i know if i paid alot of money for pro coaching, id want to get as much information out as possible in that time frame, and i wouldnt want time wasted on coddling
![When A Student Buys Coaching Just To Argue With Me... [Challenger Coaching]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4uSpPbgW-E0/mqdefault.jpg)
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People who think this is "rude" have only had yes men around them.
This type of coaching will actually help this guy make that push from D2 into the higher tiers of Masters and GM - you aren't going to magically break your bad macro habits without some strong coaching like this.
Other coaches will just take your money and just make you feel good with some light advice but Perry actually cares about the client and his progress, which is why it comes off as "harsh" to some.
League is just like any other sport and if you're serious about improvement you need a coach like Perry.
Really good content Perry! Keep it up man!
^He takes his time to review a lower elo person to help him climb. Those might be habbits that have been set in stone over multiple years. just saying "yeah ok, just do this, just do this" wtihout getting any negative feedback on your 'flow', not much would have been changed. Really great couch, sounds a little rude, but he is correct.
I've also been coaching this student for a few weeks. He's a top 1% player in other games. I'm holding this guy to very high standards. He wants to hit challenger and I'm gonna push him.
@perryjg it still wasn't cool to call him a pussy.. He wasn't giving the same energy back. No hate, I have learned from your content. But I'd like to see more sincerity when correcting your clients' mistakes. Maybe if he was giving the same energy back, it wouldn't have been so rough.
@@johnadams5694 We are grown man, doesn't going to hurt him, gotta be real too. I get what u getting at but I agree with his approach to force certain habbits out of someones mind.
@@Lone_Wolf_91 Calling someone a pussy isn't necessary for forcing a habit out of someone's mind. But to each their own.
Imagine if school teacher's taught college kids like that. Called him fucking names for getting answers wrong. Being "grown" has nothing to do with it.
I just started jungling last week and Perry might be the only channel that feels consistent and knows what they are doing. I feel like I can get to Gold then I might buy a training session once I get to the point where when I watch these videos. I am 100%, I am one tricking and dodging any games that I don't get to play my champ until I hit gold I am tempted to add a second champion, I am not going to because I truly believe if I follow the advice Perry gives I will climb.
Those second grubs, you told him not to worry about the Sion. Then on review, you gave him shit for not fighting the Sion. Very inconsistent info, man.
Yeah client should've mentioned that perry told him in-game to stay ngl
He didnt have big windows to fight there, telling him to go fight Sion when it needs to be a decision made in a second will only confuse things imo. He does mention at the start of the sequence that he can look for fight w Sion as well
was thinking the same thing
The coaching was great in this video. Some people r are just soft. Love your content!
Good coaching, play with intensity
I mean yeah he could be less offensive. I do think people have to realize it takes small things to climb in diamond to master. Surely if he has a gold client he can focus on more obvious things, but in diamond 2 you gotta do specific things to carry games.
I fixed the corrupt game downloads by going into my files and deleting the file I just downloaded and redownloading it. It worked for some reason and it stopped corrupting my future games
Kkkkk que esporro slc, é assim que se educa homens rss good coaching
This has been my favorite channel over the last year, but is it just me or is the coaching way more toxic now? Just doesn’t feel like the same wholesome Perry
I’ve never been so invested in something. Lmfaoooo what the fuck are we doing 😅
best jg coaching rn
Havent watched it all yet but I love videos like this, keep posting!
This content is insanely good, thank you for the upload.
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Relax a bit bro. Don't try to be neace. No one liked him.
That's what I was thinking. We don't need or want another Tarzaned/Neace. That's what made Perry so refreshing to watch.
WELL... There's a reason why Neace and Tarzaned found so much success, but I am receiving this feedback well. For some more context, I've also been coaching this student for a few weeks. He's a top 1% player in other games. I'm holding this guy to very high standards. He wants to hit challenger and I'm gonna push him.
@@perryjg it does make a lot more sense in that context then, keep up the good content man.
imagine saying this to a coach of any other sport. It's not rude, he just treats it like a sport.
@@zacharyconner9319 1) this isn’t other sports, 2) I coach martial arts and have been coached my whole life in martial arts as well as organized sports and it is much different. I’m not sure if Perry was trying to be extra for content but it wasn’t his normal style. Even Tarzaned in his coaching videos isn’t too bad honestly and that’s just his personality anyway. Perry is much more educational and instructive which is why I prefer his style. This just felt out of character or maybe a new direction he’s going. Idk but to say all coaches are rude or condescending to their students just isn’t reality or a fair assessment. Straight forward and direct - yes, but not rude or condescending.
good coaching but extremely unpleasant delivery, whats the point of putting down your client anyway lol
Nothing unpleasant to me. That's how you learn shit anyway, if there is no full engagement, you remember much less afterwards.
What this "delivery" does show is that he cares for his client's improvement.
I'm new to the jungle role and I swear I've learned so much from this session as I never did before
And what exactly did you see as 'putting down'? Is calling bad plays bad offensive to you or what?
He praises him when he does something good so I don't see the issue here
Can’t break shitty habits if you only get positive feedback 🤗
As a support main this is really helpful because now I know what my jungler is supposed to do 😅
Good coaching. You need tough coaching in order to get better.
42:03 did u rlly call him herbivore🌿🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Theres no way this is diamond
I see what u doing with your approach, would do it a little differently but u definitely need to forced bad habits out of someones mind and being candy nice all the time isn't going to do the job, I played WoT for over 10y and would always add ^disclaimer^ don't take my talking too personal bc I only care for what's right atm and if u fucked up You fucked up and only u need to understand that and there is no reason to be mad at me, u just gotta own it, it's 15v15 clan wars, so there is a lot of going on having 15+ ppl on discord. Nice coaching, knowing things is one thing, doing them as game is played is something entirely different.
Holy crap. I make all these mistakes as Hecarim. Perfect VOD review. Thank you!
is it just me or is this guy' s POV insane?
idk if its the aspect ratio or the monitor or what, but he can see so much of the map on his camera
I watch so many of Perry’s videos I feel like I’m gonna catch myself randomly saying “playing like a psychopath”.
I'm wondering since I'm new to this channel how the VOD review works when you are a patreon?
Excellent coaching. This is what I would want for my sessions! A drill sergeant in your face style. No mommies holding your baby soft hand!!😊
Wubz?
Gold Shyvana OTP haha, havent played a massive load of games but 230k mastery. But like you said “afk farming” I was kinda guilty of this, being way more active checken and pinging now. And yea when there are opportunities take them and dont play farming simulator.
Like I tell my jglers. Fxxx your gromp. There’s 300 gold sitting under my turret and I’m sion.
Watch some Coach Curtis, man. You can get some coaching practice from his vids the same way people get jugnle info from you
He is in a partnership with Curtis and Nathan Motte in their “we will teach you league programs”……………………………….
Perry are you able to coach top lane to a master level or no?
I can coach any role to a challenger level, if youre interested in coaching here's my website: perryjg.com
ngl, play with your Kled sounded like something else
you can still help him learn without being rude bro
At this point it's his coaching style. 😢
Before you can improve on something, you have to realize that you NEED to improve on it. Many people don't realize how bad they are at what they're doing, and so they never even consider looking for a better paradigm or updating their methods/attitude. When dealing with people who are resisting realizing that they are bad at something, you have to sometimes interrupt their automatic EGO defenses with some pure and honest feedback regardless of how it'll make them feel. Perry isn't rude in any of his streams or videos, he's literally the most level headed coach ive watched in the league community so far.
also if you're more worried about your ego/how you feel than you are about improving then you don't deserve to improve anyways.
i mean, he has to get alot of information out in a very short amount of time. There isn't really time for pleasantries and i know if i paid alot of money for pro coaching, id want to get as much information out as possible in that time frame, and i wouldnt want time wasted on coddling
Nah when you do something so dumb like fighting grubs when sion is hitting you, it needs emphasis.