Curious: would you ever try the mixed nude sauna? By the way, I genuinely hope you enjoyed the style of the video. Times change and I have been wanting to try more of this style of format for a while. I'm curious about why cultures do what they do, how our upbringing shapes who we are and how we relate to the world, be it nudity, gender roles, love language, how we view relationships, how we communicate... the list goes on. Excited to share these new findings with all of you. 😊 If you haven't yet signed on to my Podcast, please do so. Each Tuesday I chat to different cultures, diving deep into these topics.
I would not mind trying out a nude sauna just to get the experience. I haven't done the nude part at a beach although I have been to beaches where people go nude and women go nude or topless. I have done swimming naked alone in the pool though via bet that I won years ago if swimming naked in a pool counts although it was my friends and I only at the community pool. It doesn't bother me to see people naked, it's just about having an open mind in my opinion. I did enjoy the video Marina and continue with the good content. You go girl! ❤
I went to mixed sauna many moons ago with my ( then ) German fiancé. I am Indonesian btw. The concept of mixed sauna was alien to me, I couldn’t comprehend what if you see your teacher / neighbour or someone you know naked in the sauna… But now I’m ok with it, anyway when in Rome do like the romans do.
I've been to Sompasauna fairly often. It's a mixed sauna (actually, 3 of them, from warm to seering hot) and visited by people from all ages. Nobody pays attention at anyone's nudity, or barely so.
It's so sad that immigrants think they have the right to judge people for their culture in their own country. If you don't like it, don't do it, but don't try to change one's culture, respect the country that welcomed you.
@@LNVACVACNo, an immigrant being allowed to live and work in a country does not give him the right to impose or disturb other ppl who have nothing to do with it, if they are not satisfied with the culture should move to where they find it most suitable.
@@wagner9527 You realize rule of law and being annoying are different things, right? Also rule of law and culture are distinct. When a government accepts a migrant the only pact is on rule of law. The moment you invite someone to live with you, in your space, you are not only changing yourself the space you live in but also inviting an individual agent. Why the hell do you think europe is becoming islamic and turning rightwing? You invited a person from another culture to live in your country you to begin it changed your own country's culture.
@@LNVACVAC Agree with the rule of law and culture aspect difference. Regarding the rest you're going too far, US/Canada received many Muslims and they are still US/Canada. I lived with a Muslim/iranian family in Canada for a while I can say that they were incorporated in the western social values, although they kept their faith. That's how it should be. Now imagining I receiving a job proposal to work in the Emirates and insisting on being vulgar and breaking and disrespecting social rules, kinda stupid.
As a female from those conservative countries you mentioned I didn’t wear a top at the beach until I was 12 and had big boobs. Also we would see naked tourists all the time and they did their thing and we did ours. Live and let live! We also all changed on the benches in the swimming pool! I was still shocked when I went to Germany but still way more relaxed than USA Americans. If you don’t sexualize things it is not weird! In East Germany where I studied the student apartments were mixed. My bathroom had a door that you could close but some were in the basement and they were mixed. As a woman the only people that whistle at us were Latin or Turkish. No northern men does that! Super respectfully! Love Germans and Austrians!
Well I think in the East of the country things are different anyways. But there are for sure German guys who catcall, I've experienced it plenty of times during night time (but those who did usually are low class).
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance. 2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles. 3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
@@SigmaLegendus69 Privacy and prudity are as related as communism and sardines. If privacy is a basic human right, while its opposite leads to degeneration, then it's the fake friendliness of countries like the Australia (or the USA), where people ask incredibly nosy personal questions to complete strangers which is a degenerated society. Which is accentuated by being very religious conservative societies, so is, full of double standards and hypocrisy.
The German (and even Nordic) approach to nudity is not the problem; it is the prudishness and over-sexualisation of the idea in the rest of the world which is the real problem. There is nothing sexual whatsoever about going to a FKK beach or a sauna. It’s more a feeling of liberty and people at these places are not gawking at each other. Critical shocked at the notion should really grow up and look in their own mirror to see where the problem really lies.
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance. 2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles. 3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
Good for you, Marina. Trying out new things even though not that comfortable for you. I know this is not a political channel but, whilst a nudist environment holds no interest for me either, Germans must be (rightly) dismayed when other cultures/regions come to their country and have the audacity to lecture them on nudity. Whatever happened to "when in Rome"? If you don't like it you don't have to be there. Loving the new content. All the best.
Hopefully, Westerners have the same mentality and attitude like yours when it comes to the Muslim world and stop lecturing and imposing their nudity on us Muslims.
I found your video very interesting. Many thanks for it. However, I (as a German) would advise you to undress yourself before the next interview with people at nude beaches. You will find that people are much more accessible and friendly when you put yourself on the same level with them. But don't get me wrong. I really admire your courage to try the sauna. And of course it is normal, if it is uncomfortable for you to be alone with another naked men in a sauna cabin for the first time. But that‘s totally normal and you don‘t have to fear anything in such a situation.
Germany nude culture was big in the 90s. Nowadays Germany has become super conservative in comparison. This also has a lot to do with Muslim immigration, who do not accept German or Nordic culture, instead they want to influence it according to their own ideas. These days Spain is much more open about nudity than Germany
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance. 2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles. 3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
I would rather they went home. Different cultures can never get along when they share the same land, and folk like us will get shoved aside for them if they stay. It is antiwhitism.
In France it is well known that nudist beaches are mostly for german and dutch mostly :D. Nudity in France is not public, it is more at home, in your apartement, maybe everybody does it, I dont know :D
@@karelius7085 Cap d'Agde is not in provence but in Occitanie but yes it is the most popular naked town in France, mostly for foreign tourists in the summer and also for swingers all year round ;)
The crazy ones are the Americans who freak out over uncovered body parts, but sell weapons that can make a dozen holes in covered bodies in a second, to the general public who in civilised countries have no business owning weapons.
Germany is not N°1, Austria, Spain, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, ztr much more naturists. But yes, it has nothing to do with USA, where you can be arrested if you zre nude on a park, on a beach, and even in your own garden!
True. But I stayed one month in Munich last year, I visited Austria several times, and find a place where you can relax, swim, sunbathe naked is quite easy in Germany.
I'm Portuguese, definitely NOT a country where nudity happens naturally. When I moved to Germany I did try out the saunas and realized people are there to relax and disconnect from the world. There's absolutely nothing sexual about it. I have noticed though, that I feel more comfortable at female only saunas or a mix sauna where people are around my age. I enjoy the way nudity is seen as not sexual and so natural in Germany and Nordic cultures and that's something we all should learn with them. Shame on people from radically different cultures who can't understand, they're the ones bringing "sexual connotations" to somebody else's non sexual cultural habit. That is actually a problem and I never went to a mix sauna at my gym because I don't want to be naked near these guys with that mentality.
@@Why.Just_why They have the right to their thoughts. But have no right to bother people or impose their views based on a ultra conservative religion. If it's so shocking for them, then avoid those places.
@@tar2c690 I don't know where you got that idea??!! Where have I said Portuguese culture does not accept nudity? It's not a normal thing. Germans come to Portugal on holidays, get naked and nobody cares. Live and let live. If we move to Germany, we obviously will respect the German culture. Please, don't misinterpret or distort my words.
@@tar2c690She said “radically different”, not mildly. It may be a reference to the guy’s comment that a Muslim once came to criticize the German guy for doing it. The Portuguese may not be as comfortable going nude as the Germans, but when it happens, it’s not a huge shock as it would be in some other countries.
Nudity and sexuality are not the same things. Most people have sex naked but are naked in many, many other situations, which have nothing to do with sexuality too. That‘s how most Germans feel and so it‘s not a big deal for us to be naked together with others of the same or the other gender.
Yeah! This is the way. Only mature cultures understand this. Latins, Asians, middle easterns, victorians would hide their body for centuries still, hiding their true self, hiding their liberty.
Congrats on having the courage of making this video, you definitely look uneasy with nudity but you did it anyway despite the uneasy feeling. That’s emotional maturity! 🎉
I remember going to a nude beach in Jamaica, and wasn't really uncomfortable. Just keep reminding myself not to stare and just look at faces so much that I couldn't keep a conversation lol. BTW I've seen that in Switzerland, especially in Zurich and Geneva. That was many years ago, but I'm not sure if it is popular now.
Actually emotional maturity is avoid risks you're unfortable with, but not taking the risk anyway with no benefits, even if you're uncomfortable, that is not emotional maturrity according to you it is.
Some comments here don't pass the vibe check. I think nudity is something very beautiful. I absolutely love going to the sauna because it's so refreshing for body and mind. For me it is healthy in so many ways and so very relaxing. I feel more in tune and accepting of my own body, it's a peaceful thing. And yes, it is a form of freedom. I get that the first time visiting a sauna can be scary. But like everything else: the more often you do it, the easier it gets. I have never had an uncomfortable situation in a sauna, people are polite and even more open and relaxed than they are on the streets. Which makes sense because everyone is somehow vulnerable and nobody can assume much about you because there are no possessions or clothes that could give you away. You just don't judge people because more than ever you realize how much the same we all are and and at the same time how beautifully different.
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance. 2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles. 3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
@@SteveRogers-y1j I am not trolling, and writing the same thing, its called fact checking and not as simiple as that by just having a statement in the form of a simple opinion or a fact.
"That you have to pretend that this is somehow normal and they are not looking at you in a sexual way" while the video overall was nice and openminded, this comment really rubs me the wrong way. As a 22 year old woman who loves going to the sauna (always naked and mixed gender) most men don't look at you sexually at all. Ofc there are always exceptions but it is genuinely not sexual here (no pretending necessary). In my experience no one looks at you in the sauna
For someone who's used to being naked in the sauna, I can completely understand this is your experience. For someone who is not, the world is viewed through a different lens. That's why it's interesting to talk about these cultural differences as there is no right or wrong answer, but different perspectives we can respect :)
@@DatingBeyondBorders Of course your experience is not wrong as that's subjective, but the way you phrased that particular sentence in the video sounded disrespectful in my opinion. To me, you made it sound like the men were staring at you like a piece of meat or something. Which would be an unfair representation of saunas and could scare people off. But this is just my interpretation and I'm sure your intentions were good
It's just a major cultural difference between Germany and North America. In the US and Canada, nudity is always sexual. While in Germany it is not. So when Americans or Canadians visit Germany, even though we understand this aspect of German society, it is difficult to suddenly change our mindset about nudity because we grew up having it ingrained into us that nudity is always sexual. So her mind automatically going to a place of "oh these men are looking at me sexually" would be totally normal and instinctual for a Canadian.
I guarantee that if a fit man that you found attractive was in that sauna with you, you would feel aroused at some point and you would check him out. At that very moment it becomes sexual. The same for him. Stop normalizing perversion.
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance. 2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles. 3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
I grew up in Munich going to what we call "family sauna", which means every gender and age group is welcome. For me nudity isn't linked to sex. I have a friend from a very catholic, conservative family in Sardinia and she once visited and found the courage to come with me to the mixed sauna. Afterwards she said she had never felt less observed than there and she was used to be looked at all the time in her bathing suit at the beach growing up and had never expected to feel more comfortable naked in the sauna than in a bathing suit on the beach.
Je weniger Kleidung, desto weniger Sexualität und umgekehrt: Je mehr Kleidung, desto respektloser die Sexualität. Kleidung ist Kultur, ein Symbol für Geldstatus,Kultur und religiöser Glaubeund das Verbergen der Wahrheit.Das Zentrum der Sexualität liegt nicht in den Genitalien, sondern im Gehirn. Die Augen liegen.
Here in Brazil, it's really unusual to be naked in saunas, probably because it's a hot country, and people don't use to go to saunas. There're some beaches where you can be naked, but usually, this beaches are in places, hided from general scrutiny. I'm going to visit German and Denmark next month and i must confess that if i have the chance to go naked to the sauna, i certainly will. I guess it'll be at least interesting 😅
Generally speaking it is advisable to sauna-bathe nude to avoid possible injury. Proper saunas have ,many health benefits. For one thing, a good sweat detoxifies, rejuvenates and invigorates. High sauna temperatures (for instance 80 degrees C) can promote sweating. To wear swimsuits at high temperatures is very uncomfortable and may scald the skin.
Yes, I live in east Germany, we have many FKK beaches, mixed saunas, for me as a russian first time was a shock but now after many years I'm okay with it (married to german btw haha) Saunas are great here, especially during cold wet winters.
I'm British - there isn't much nudity here at all (not just because it's cold! Infact lots of Europe is actually colder than many parts of the UK for alot of the year) actually think it comes from prudish protestant beliefs (likely exported even more so to the americas with their even more extreme founding fathers etc.). Going on holiday in Europe as a teenager was a bit of a shock initially but actually think it's great, nudity and sexuality don't need to be conflated and it's a much more mature and natural way to view peoples bodies and less childish. There's a stronger muslim/south Asian influence in the UK now which makes it much harder with lots of people very against nudity, again a relic of masoginy etc. If you were to be naked in public you'd be arrested (indecent exposure) Lots of germans do only speak german but there's nearly always someone around who speaks english. Pretty sure Italy, Spain, Portugal nobody cares about sunbathing topless.. used to see some people walking around naked on beaches too - perhaps they were tourists.
Just to clarify, being naked in public in England is perfectly legal as long as you’re not trying your shock or offend or doing something sexual. The BN site has further advice about the freedoms we have.
Being Naked is no big thing, it's just a body people. Beach, Sauna, and at Home, we even haven have a park that has a place where you can even go nude, If you don't feel comfortable don't go. Nude or not it's still a person old, young, big, or little...there is nothing wrong just don't stare a glance is okay.
Oh, so it's only okay to be comfortable naked if you're a woman? What about the plethora of homophobic men who can't stand to see other men naked and start complaining about it?
Asking "Do you go nude in the sauna" is like asking do you go naked if you take a shower. Could of course be that in other parts in the world people do wear clothing when they wash themselves but well.... Seems obvious for me ;-) Watching a documentary about birth and see the actual birth is for me less of a trauma than seeing people getting killed or worse gruesome torture and mutilation and that is quite common nowadays on public channels and movies... Nakedness is a natural thing. Everybody is naked under their clothes. You are born naked. And shockingly for some cultures in my family we are used to walk in when other family members are showering. That's nothing to do with sexuality but just with a natural thing 🙂 But as the naked guy in the park said.. It is awkward if people are voyeuristic and stare at you or worse... make pictures and videos..
Emil Sinclair @emilsinclair4190 Thanks for the reply, but it seems like I can't find your replies anymore. Well I don't need to be careful with my thoughts according to your last reply in our discussion. But the thing is I can understand your logic but you can't understand mine, even if I tried to be more specific. You only want to see that your logic is valid and relevant and no other logic exists. We can have differences of opinions and facts but you don't need to act irritated.
I walked through a nudist beach in Bulgaria in my teenage years. Seeing old nude German and Russian tourists never made me few so foreign in my own country. 😂
In order to understand this topic of nudity in German, we should get in touch or read German philosofers Schelling Fichte... German Idealism.... They are awesome 🤠🤠❤️❤️❤️
The muslim shaming on the nudist in Germany just give me a good laugh. Hopefully Germany still won’t mix religion into politics especially the one that highly supports on conservative beliefs and restrictions. Let people live. You come to live here not owning it. If the foreigners travel to religious countries and can adapt themselves to enjoy it, why not the religious themselves in other countries?
honestly I am thinking dude you are in their country and they are free to follow their laws as they see fit, if its not a muslim country they can't do crap about it.
I am proud of you for accepting the fact and a shock culture for trying to experience it once yourself. We needed to know about this and open our mind irrespective of respecting everyone's different culture and society. ❤
If so why dont they go do it in their homes and not outside or somewhere closed for only them to see themselves they fr cared enough they want to go public 0 common sense
@@farhkittyanimations Because the least people have the money to have a whole sauna complex and a swimming pool at home nor do they have a garden where they could tan. Your question gives me "Why going to the cinema if you can watch movie at home?-Vibe.
@@Siegfried5846 the crazy fact you will risk being like this just because you have no beach in home is showing how shameful you can get beside how bad it is as well and is stupid mindset for some people you would definitely be like this in everything that gives beach vibes as long as they let you + you don't even care because you seem a big fan of it by this defending comment you just commented excusing them
7:36 it’s funny that In the Netherlands it is quite common knowledge that a lot of Germans DO NOT speak English very well. So how did you get the complete oppositie message??😂
Some words about France, my country: there is 150 naturist resorts, and approx 200 official naturist beaches. We could thing it's good, and France is the number one naturist destination in the World. BUT being nude out those specific places is very difficult. If in Spain you can undress when you find a wild place, if in Germany you'll find a lot of "FKK" places (each lake will have its naturist beach, swimming pools have special pools or horaries for naturists; there is also naturist spaces in public gardens), if in Austria there are groups hiking nude, in France, if you are out of a naturist place, you can have serious problems, even in your own garden. And you have also a lot of people with origins in North Africa, who consider that if you are naked, or even topless, you are a whore and they'll yeld of you, film you, put their hands on you etc. And in some regions, where there is no sea, there is simply no naturist place. You have to take your car and travel 250 Km to find a place, where you can come only if you rent something for a week. So, France, for naturist vacation, it's super, but just for an afternoon by a hot day, it's usually not possible unless you live at the coast.
Im from North Africa and would appreciate if you don’t generalise all people. I would never get close to a nude beach simply because I have no interest in this activity and even less to the people. While you’re busy complaining to show your genitals to other kids, your country still allows incest to be legal. The Muslims banished it thousands of years ago. So watch your tongue, you don’t have any lessons to give here.
@@chloeanastasia8440 l'inceste en France est puni de 10 ans de prison, vous racontez n'importe quoi en disant que c'est légal! Et en plus, la loi a été durcie en avril 2021. On croirait Poutine, votre discours! Vous n'avez pas honte?
@@BangFarang1 In western and southern France, yes, but if you reside in Reims, Dijon etc., there is quite nothing, usually you have to drive more the 150 or 200 KM.
I didn't experience German nudist culture until I was 44 years old. I went to a spa/sauna resort and did nude sun-bathing and swimming at a couple of outdoor lakes and pools. After it initially feeling weird, I soon got used to it and felt very liberated by it. I ended up loving it and miss it very much since I haven't been in Germany in over five years, and there are very few opportunities for it in the USA (at least legally). I was fine with the mixed nude sauna and swimming. It takes the sexuality of nudity out of the equation. You learn to view other nude people as just people enjoying themselves like you are. I wish more Western countries would take part in this liberating culture.
Totally fell for the clickbait "Most Naked Country in the World"!! Turns out its my own 😆😆😆. I am not really surprised on second thought, mixed Saunas are totally normal, and at work one of my standard quiz questions this year is always "How many nude people today at the next beach?" 😆.
If you don't want to see nudity (or let your family see nudity), DON'T GO THERE!!!! It is that simple. I don't understand what makes you fear it so much but just stay away if it affects you that much. Frankly, you have to learn shame about your body. Children are known to enjoy running around nude just as fast as they get a chance. In my opinion, the more taboo you make it, the more interest it gets. We all have a body, and it is natural and wholesome. They come in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders. Because fashion and media only show their idealized versions, people feel inadequate and sometimes lose all self worth because they feel they don't or cannot emulate that standard. There are chihuahuas and St. Bernards and neither can become the other. Both are beautiful and belong just as they are.
I was also in the military in 1990’s Germany. We went to different saunas and schwimbad or lakes whenever we could. Being nude in Germany was the first time my wife was confident about her body. We still seek out nude resorts and beaches but it is disappointing how difficult it is to find nude recreation on par with what Germany had.
I was stationed in Germany in 1991 as part of Desert Storm. At the time I was a serious weight lifter and could work out 3-4 hours a day. As an Army Major I loved the German people. At that time they had excuse my spelling, Swimbauches . Obviously I can’t spell it . But this was an area’s where for a few dm you could work out and swim naked. The first time there I wore my swimming suit. And no one was paying attention which I loved after that I would never swim with clothes. Because I was such a professional athlete, the local older ladies would follow me around as I exercised and swam in the pool and hot tube. I did not pay attention to them and in Nuremberg it was so cold and working out and swimming area was great. I have never understood why Americans are so ashamed of their bodies until recently because of morbid obesity. The obesity problem in the U.S. is greater to health than all medical problem’s combined. Do not these people have no pride!?
We are human being should have limit to whatever we do. If we let our imagination and desire unchecked, we become fooking idiots and shameless creature aka animal. Well, tons of animal have their coats.
Fr this is sooo miserable the way they explain their prov0ked actions saying we are free etc etc they don't know they are being tricked by the government
Sex and naturisme is not the same. In the Netherlands the naturisme is growing. In sauna / spa centers you are nude! If we dont do so spastisch about nudity the world would be much nicer. Whats the added value of bathing clothes?
its actually worse to go with clothes in the sauna, because the high temperatures in there can free dangerous chemicals from synthtetic fibers.. also the sweat wich accumulates in the clothing is not benefical at all. Naked sauna is the healthier way.
Generally speaking it's advisable to sauna-bathe nude to avoid possible injury. Proper saunas have ,many health benefits. For one thing, a good sweat detoxifies, rejuvenates and invigorates. High sauna temperatures (for instance 80 degrees C) can promote sweating. To wear swimsuits at high temperatures is very uncomfortable and may scald the skin.
Well, I have something to add from actual research and fact-checking: Based on the available scientific evidence, there are several points to consider regarding sauna use and clothing: ## Clothing in Saunas Traditionally, saunas are used nude or with minimal clothing like a towel. This practice has both cultural and practical reasons: **Heat Transfer:** Nude sauna use allows for more efficient heat transfer to the body and promotes sweating[1]. Clothing can act as an insulator, potentially interfering with the sauna's intended effects. **Comfort:** High temperatures in saunas (typically 70-100°C) can make wearing clothing uncomfortable[1]. Wet clothing from sweat can stick to the skin and potentially cause discomfort or irritation. ## Chemical Concerns The claim about dangerous chemicals being released from synthetic fibers in high temperatures is not well-supported by scientific evidence in the context of sauna use. While some synthetic materials can release chemicals when heated to very high temperatures, typical sauna temperatures are unlikely to cause significant chemical release from most clothing materials. ## Sweating and Detoxification The idea that sweating in a sauna provides significant detoxification benefits is somewhat controversial. While sweating does eliminate some toxins, the liver and kidneys are the primary organs responsible for detoxification[2]. Sauna use may support these processes indirectly by promoting circulation and relaxation. ## Safety Considerations **Hygiene:** Sitting directly on sauna benches can be unhygienic. Using a clean towel as a barrier is often recommended for public saunas. **Skin Protection:** While nude sauna use is traditional, there's no strong evidence that wearing a swimsuit in a sauna is harmful to skin health, provided the suit is clean and comfortable. **Hydration:** Regardless of clothing, proper hydration before, during, and after sauna use is crucial to avoid dehydration[1]. ## Conclusion While nude sauna use is traditional and may offer some benefits in terms of comfort and heat transfer, there's no strong scientific evidence that wearing clothing in a sauna is significantly harmful. The most important factors for safe and beneficial sauna use are proper hydration, moderate session length, and listening to your body's signals[1][2]. If using a public sauna, following the facility's guidelines for attire and hygiene is advisable. Citations: [1] www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/what-to-know-saunas-and-health [2] www.healthline.com/health/fitness-exercise/are-saunas-good-for-you [3] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5941775/ [4] www.nib.com.au/the-checkup/the-science-and-benefits-of-sauna-use [5] www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/313109 [6] www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/saunas-and-your-health [7] www.forbes.com/health/wellness/sauna-benefits/ [8] www.goodrx.com/well-being/alternative-treatments/sauna-benefits
Additionally with regards to that: When considering whether to use a sauna nude or with minimal clothing, such as a towel, there are cultural, practical, and personal preference factors to weigh. Here's a breakdown of the considerations: ## Nude Sauna Use ### Benefits - **Efficient Heat Transfer:** Nude sauna use allows for better heat transfer to the skin, promoting effective sweating and potentially enhancing the sauna's health benefits, such as improved skin and detoxification[2][4]. - **Cultural Tradition:** In many cultures, particularly in Finland, using the sauna nude is traditional and seen as a natural part of the experience[2][4]. - **Comfort:** Without clothing, there is no risk of fabric sticking to the skin or causing discomfort due to sweat accumulation[1][2]. ### Considerations - **Hygiene:** It is important to use a towel to sit on to maintain hygiene and protect the sauna benches from sweat[2][4]. - **Etiquette:** In public saunas, it is crucial to respect local customs and the comfort levels of others. Nudity might not be acceptable everywhere, so it's important to be aware of the specific sauna's rules and cultural norms[3][4]. ## Minimal Clothing (Towel or Light Clothing) ### Benefits - **Modesty and Comfort:** For those uncomfortable with full nudity, wrapping a towel or wearing loose, breathable cotton clothing provides a balance between modesty and comfort[2][3][4]. - **Hygiene:** A towel can serve as a hygienic barrier between the body and sauna surfaces[2][3]. - **Cultural Sensitivity:** In places where nudity is not the norm, wearing a towel or minimal clothing can prevent awkwardness and respect cultural differences[1][3]. ### Considerations - **Heat Insulation:** Clothing, especially if not breathable, can insulate the body and potentially reduce the effectiveness of sweating and heat exposure[1][5]. - **Material Choice:** It's important to avoid synthetic materials, which can trap heat and moisture, leading to discomfort. Natural fibers like cotton or linen are recommended[3][5]. ## Conclusion The choice between using a sauna nude or with minimal clothing depends largely on personal comfort, cultural norms, and the specific sauna environment. Nude use is traditionally considered optimal for maximizing the sauna's benefits, but using a towel or light clothing can be a suitable alternative in public or mixed-gender settings. Always prioritize comfort, hygiene, and respect for others when deciding on sauna attire. Citations: [1] www.reddit.com/r/Sauna/comments/11aionk/clothes_or_no_clothes_in_the_sauna/ [2] www.recoveryguru.com.au/blog/what-to-wear-in-a-sauna-and-what-to-avoid-for-maximum-comfort [3] posh.co.uk/living/what-to-wear-in-a-sauna/ [4] thesaunalife.com/what-to-wear-in-an-infrared-sauna/ [5] shymsaunas.com.au/blog/what-to-wear-sauna/ [6] kitra.pl/en/in-the-sauna-without-a-costume-why-is-it-best-to-be-naked-in-the-sauna/ [7] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5941775/ [8] www.nib.com.au/the-checkup/the-science-and-benefits-of-sauna-use
And lastly. When considering cultural norms around nudity in saunas versus clothing requirements, it's important to recognize that these practices exist on a spectrum influenced by various cultural, historical, and social factors. Here's an analysis of the situation: ## Cultural Context of Nude Saunas In countries like Finland, Germany, and parts of Scandinavia, nude sauna use is a longstanding cultural tradition: - **Cultural Norm:** Nude sauna use is seen as natural, non-sexual, and tied to concepts of equality and body acceptance. - **Freedom and Privilege:** In these cultures, the ability to use saunas nude is indeed viewed as a freedom - a way to engage in a traditional practice without shame or restriction. ## Clothing Requirements in Saunas In other cultures, particularly in North America and parts of Asia, clothing in saunas is often required or expected: - **Cultural Norm:** Modesty norms and different attitudes towards public nudity lead to expectations of wearing swimwear or towels in saunas. - **Perceived Right:** In these contexts, the ability to maintain bodily privacy in public spaces, including saunas, is often viewed as a right. ## Balancing Freedom and Rights The tension between these practices highlights several important points: 1. **Cultural Relativism:** What's considered a freedom in one culture may be seen as inappropriate or even offensive in another. 2. **Personal Autonomy:** Both the freedom to be nude and the right to maintain privacy can be viewed as expressions of personal autonomy. 3. **Public vs. Private Spaces:** The norms often differ between public facilities and private or members-only establishments. 4. **Evolving Attitudes:** Cultural norms around nudity and body acceptance are not static and can change over time. ## Conclusion While nude sauna use in some cultures represents a freedom and privilege rooted in tradition, the right to maintain bodily privacy in public spaces is equally valid in cultures where this is the norm. Neither practice is inherently superior; both reflect different cultural values and historical contexts. The key is to respect local customs and norms while also recognizing that individuals may have personal preferences that differ from the prevailing culture. In practice, many establishments in culturally diverse areas offer options to accommodate different comfort levels, such as separate nude and clothed areas or specific times for nude use. Citations: [1] study.com/academy/lesson/cultural-norms-definition-values-quiz.html [2] www.reddit.com/r/sociology/comments/mv0ntx/difference_between_cultural_norms_and_societal/ [3] www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-protections/human-rights-and-anti-discrimination/human-rights-scrutiny/public-sector-guidance-sheets/right-enjoy-and-benefit-culture [4] www.qhrc.qld.gov.au/your-rights/human-rights-law/cultural-rights [5] www.globalcognition.org/cultural-norms/ [6] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7126161/ [7] www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749597815000084 [8] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5941775/
I think that a decisive factor to label one's attitude in a naked sauna, is to what extent the person is tempted to look at the naked bodies of others around. I would say that the Germans attention is not directed toward that, but simply enjoy themselves during the time spent there. As the guy in your video said, he enjoys the sauna- nothing more nothing less than that.
FKK was a BIG thing in the "DDR", when East Germany was still a separate country, where the government was very controlling, so nudity was a form of "freedom".
Germany used to be relaxed about nudity, but since the arrival of thousands of islamic young men, it has become dangerous. Local swimming pools have trouble controlling even mixed swimmers. Islamic men crowd round any woman in a very threatening manner. Same on the beach, but the police won't intervene because of discrimination.
Portugal is quite conservative. Spain much less so. And in Spain you can't get arrested for being nude in a plaza. It would be awkard, but not illegal.
In Italy long time ago (pre internet) there was a buzz about closing nude beaches because tourists were not attracted to see whole families naked too bad i cant give an url on that it was in news somewhere. In Brazil topless for a time looked like it would be a normal thing But only girls with high muscled boyfriends would try it. Girls use gstrings all around but feminine topless is"out". But trans people have a short stretch of Copacana beach where nobody will disturb them. In Brazil beach fashion and trends start in Rio de Janeiro so that is it. Only some beaches will have laws special for nude sunbathers with special regulations people with a bone have to go get a sea "bath" to cool of.
The City Park in the middle of Munich was called English Garden because it was designed by an Englishman and the Bavarian's wanted a Park that looked like Hyde Park in London,. I spent a LOT of time there at the Beer Garden in the 1970s and there was a FKK part back then in 1972.
I was in Germany 10 years ago, I went to Baden Baden for work. Me and my collegues wanted to try the spa experience. Once inside we had to undress, I have never felt so uncomfortable....
Nudity is not about sex, it is about nature, it is about feeling comfortable in your body whatever shape and size of body you have, young or old, fat or thin. You learn to see all bodies as naturally beautiful. So it teaches you to look at all people as natural and focus beauty in the character.
"Countries like Greece, Italy, Portugal, are STILL quite conservative when it comes to the attitudes about nudity". What makes you think that these countries are waiting for a change that their "conservatism" has delayed? Why shouldn't the other countries you consider "progressive" be the ones that "still" have the wrong attitude? Did you decide which is the right attitude and which is the wrong one?
In Munich there are some quiet spots where people chill topless or naked. And a 80 year old couple chills there naked everyday in the Summer. So if you want to relax naked at the Isar, you will find a place. Apart from FFK beaches, it should be a more quiet, not too crowded place - then it is very much tolerated.
I grew up in Eastern Germany in the 80‘s when it was very common to go swimming nude. We even showered all together in the students hostel because we had only one public shower for men and women. It was no big deal. We even chilled or learned together on the next lake naked. Nowadays it‘s not so popular anymore. There are still FKK beaches, but not so many as 20 or 30 years ago. Sauna culture is another thing. There are many big saunas where it is also not allowed to use the cabins with clothes and the saunas are more and more popular and very crowded at least in the wintertime. But generally speaken it‘s not about sexuality but because of the free body feeling. So it doesn‘t matter how your body looks like when you visit a nude beach. It‘s not what the others are interested in. Normally nobody will stare at you.
Some staring but very secretly haha. Good figure always attracts men.😄 Most unpleasant thing when muslims visit it for fun, they must be not allowed to enter there after innapropriate behaviour. (My husband is east german man)
@@Olsblog No one should be allowed to enter after inappropriate behaviour. There is no guarantee that no one shows inappropriate behaviour on a nude beach or in a sauna. But there is also no guarantee for this on normal beaches .
I think FKK the way they practiced in GDR was better than body positivity today . I noticed that East Germans seem to have a different attitude when it comes to sexuality. In short, healthier. Do you notice differences between people who grew up in GDR vs FDR? I watched Liebt der osten anders. Is body positivity a thing in Germany?
@@g2000g Generally body positivity and sex positivity are different movements in Germany which are linked together perhaps, but are not completeley the same. So you have to distinct between them. Body positivity is more related to FKK and nudity. So you should not be ashamed of your body and all bodies have to be respected if they fulfill the classical criteria of beauty or not. So you will not be rated in any way if you are naked in the sauna or at the beach. This was much more widespread in the GDR. Nudity alone is not sexual . Sex positivity has it‘s roots in the sexual revolution of the 60‘s and it was also a form of protest against the authorities. There was an inofficial rule in the communities of this period: „Anyone who sleeps with the same person twice is already part of the establishment.“. This was a movement in Western Germany (68er). Nowadays there are no big differences between Eastern Germany and Western Germany regarding both movements I would say. Sex positivity also means equal rights for the LGBT.. community. But the most FKK beaches (body positivity) and also the the most well known clubs (sex positivity, Berghain, Kitkat) are in Eastern Germany or Berlin.
@@gerdweist5961 oh, in the US body positivity is like celebrating obesity unfortunately. I want to ask you some questions if you don’t mind…since I dated a man who grew up in MV and another in NRW. Yes they were young when the reunification happened . I watched the documentary liebt der osten anders( it is on RUclips ) and read articles about differences between the GDR and the FRG that persist to this day. It was quite interesting the guy who grew up in GDR did not adopt the attitude of West Germany and had the classic Approach of old GDR. Of course, I don’t want to generalize but West Germany is more puritanical and conflicted and I hear German sex therapists saying clients who grew up in the East are frank and open when talking about issues and and are not conscious of an external gaze of media or society about sexual fulfillment and performance. That was a good thing because the FRG was more like the USA when it comes to sex. I think the FRG should have learned from the GDR when it comes to sex. II know not all was good in the GDR. I live in the US but I grew up in a dictatorship which had censorship when I was a kid , and I know how it is very well. Maybe you can watch that documentary and you see anything that resonates. I read an article on a survey a marketing firm did and there was a difference between new FRG states and original FRG states. Also scholars who interviewed many East Germans after the reunification noted that East Germans felt freer, more natural , and more sensual though West Germans talk more and had the Sexual Revolution. That was my experience compared with the East German BF compared to the man from NRW and American men. West Germans approach more like Americans …unfortunately. I guess one’s attitude may vary depending on how old one was when the reunification took place. My friend from MV was 15 years old when the reunification took place. I don’t want to bore you w a long comment but you were a teen at least when two Germanies reunified? Anyhow liebt der osten anders was very interesting and I see what is wrong w how the west approaches sex nowadays has limits and flaws…. Thank you for reading a long reply! Here is the documentary… ruclips.net/video/j_z6cTy-7Rk/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I had a similar experience to your sauna experience in a mixed changing room in Quebec; althought technically mix I think there is some unwritten ways in those spaces when at this hour you will have like 80% women then the next you will have 80% men wich is interesting. Back then when I understood that I was aiming at "women hour" to go train, now being a full naturist I got accustomed to be naked around a bunch of naked men cuz in Quebec naturist is like 75-80% men. As for what we see on a nude beach is not that is only the bodies you don't wanna see that you see but rather all bodies including those you don't wanna see (although since it's a generation think you might see more boomers and X than millennial and zoomer...but the latter are there too...sometime).
I have been to a mixed nude sauna. At one point I was renting an apartment from a Finnish couple in the U.P. of Michigan. They had a sauna on the property and would invite me to share it with them on a regular basis. It took a little getting used to at first. Having experienced nudist beaches and naturist camping in Europe and the US. I much prefer being around naturist Europeans. Much more fun and relaxed. I have found my fellow american nudist to be very conservative and somewhat uptight. To the point that I rarely go to nude beaches here in the US sadly.
lol Italy huh? I remember a newspaper stand that had a picture 8’ tall with 6 naked models on it And the Portuguese tv shampoo commercial saw model from the waist up 😂
Still as CRAZY about nudity. Is it really crazy .. or is it just bare nature? I see nothing crazy about nudity at all. From age 16 I went to mixed nude sauna for decades. There were people of all sizes, gender, age, colcor. I never was at an FKK .. but would not hasitate either. It´s not creepy to be naked .. I rather call the ones creepy to come to stare, make photos or videos. And Sauna in Germany means: naked. Everything else is an exception. So it´s rather "unusual" for us to go into a "non naked" sauna. Nudity problems in a sauna is not a thing at all. As some people said "we don´t care". And just to amphasize: It´s nothing sexual - that would be weird. He/she/it would be forced to leave immediately and kept out for the future.
I agree that in general English people are often more prudish about nudity than some other Europeans and less prudish than many Americans. But if you watch UK television you might think otherwise. There was a sex education series on regular non subscription television which, among other things, showed sex using a tiny camera inside the vagina. Another show called 'Naked Attraction' features six uncensored naked people being chosen to go on a date by a singleton. But nudity on beaches and parks etc. is still not widely accepted. I'm not sure about the idea that the fall off in nudity in Germany is caused by Muslim immigration. On the beaches of Southern Europe nudity and women going topless is not as popular as it was 40 years ago although nearly everyone on the beach are white Europeans. One suggestion as to why this is, is that young people are more body conscious because of the 'ideal' bodies on the internet.
Actually, most Germans understand English quite well, how else would they have understood your questions? But they have little practice speaking it, and many are afraid of sounding stupid, so they don't even try, or they get nervous when they have to, and their English sounds much worse than it would if they could speak freely at home. You can see that Germans understand English quite well when international stars are on a TV show with a live audience and they make a joke and the whole audience starts laughing before the joke has even been translated.
I suppose the cultural difference over the acceptability of nudity in society is akin to the societal willingness to understand where the food on our plate comes from. In your example, Marina, of the Spanish Netflix film in which you can witness an actual birth, which is after all how we all got here on this Earth, how many people who eat meat, poultry and fish, like me, are okay with knowing where it comes from, how it gets converted step by step from live animal into juicy burger or whatever, with no censorship of the steps in between? And why does it seem that nudity is frowned upon but violence is acceptable in culture? Isn't that a little odd?
Nudity should not be taken as shame as everyone is nude under the clothes. Think yourself as a innocent kids playing nude. They don't know about sex. So if an adult does so should not be criticized.
4:35 and it depends on generation,m I am from Netherlands. But same kind of going on as I grew up as I see here in Germany from the German ladies. Old folks are unfilterred, they drop pants wherever they deem nesscesary. My mom and her boyfriend, he an actual hippie, an dshe goes along..but same generation.. Was visiting them, they went on vacation to Greece..and wanted me toi see their camping pics.. no thanks, not eager to se mom's teabaggies and so on.. I wouldn't go camping like that, fully in the nude I play in a marchingband and don't drive to the place I need to perform in uniform all the time. And there are places the band must play, where there isn't a volleyball hall to change to marchingband uniform. Many times we change clothes outside our cars from casual clothes to our uniforms. And it is normal... And when we do get a like volleygball, or basketball playground, men and women are mixed, changing clothes.. not a big deal.. yes you see, men and women have eyes, duh... we don't peek.. there is a difference... don't linger around .. change to uniform, and make sure buss be unpacked, get drums out, sousaphones, build your instrument( sousaphones)
Why would you film and broadcast a birth but not actually show it? Americans suggest the most terrible shameful infidelity in their films and series, but then have a beep and blur when shown. That is intensely hypocritical.
For years I though FKK were the brothels. Now I learnt the initials mean "naturism". LOL! Naturism is fine for those who do it but it is not my thing. However I do go naked in the sauna.... precisely when I visit a FKK, LOL! Excellent clubs, excellent services, and up to recently quite decent prices as well, however post-Covid prices started hiking.
@@gerdweist5961 I understood that. As usual people try to use "neutral terms" to describe prostitution. Myself, as a client, I am using always the real deal terms.
Curious: would you ever try the mixed nude sauna?
By the way, I genuinely hope you enjoyed the style of the video.
Times change and I have been wanting to try more of this style of format for a while. I'm curious about why cultures do what they do, how our upbringing shapes who we are and how we relate to the world, be it nudity, gender roles, love language, how we view relationships, how we communicate... the list goes on. Excited to share these new findings with all of you. 😊
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I would not mind trying out a nude sauna just to get the experience. I haven't done the nude part at a beach although I have been to beaches where people go nude and women go nude or topless. I have done swimming naked alone in the pool though via bet that I won years ago if swimming naked in a pool counts although it was my friends and I only at the community pool. It doesn't bother me to see people naked, it's just about having an open mind in my opinion. I did enjoy the video Marina and continue with the good content. You go girl! ❤
I went to mixed sauna many moons ago with my ( then ) German fiancé. I am Indonesian btw.
The concept of mixed sauna was alien to me, I couldn’t comprehend what if you see your teacher / neighbour or someone you know naked in the sauna…
But now I’m ok with it, anyway when in Rome do like the romans do.
Yes to nude sauna and sunbathing. Porn and religious people just make so many things sexual.
I've been to Sompasauna fairly often. It's a mixed sauna (actually, 3 of them, from warm to seering hot) and visited by people from all ages. Nobody pays attention at anyone's nudity, or barely so.
I like the new style
U.S.A : OMG people naked
EUROPE : OMG people with guns
There's a lot of nudist places in America. Especially in California.
"My gun is always loaded!"
"You have a firearm?"
Looks down on his nude body "Ummm... no, that's not what I was talking about".
😂
U.S.A: Touché
Switzerland has left the chat AND the EU…even without joining it the first place
It's so sad that immigrants think they have the right to judge people for their culture in their own country. If you don't like it, don't do it, but don't try to change one's culture, respect the country that welcomed you.
The moment a country accepts an immigrant the country is also stating it accepts and endorses the supposed migrant morality and values.
@@LNVACVACNo, an immigrant being allowed to live and work in a country does not give him the right to impose or disturb other ppl who have nothing to do with it, if they are not satisfied with the culture should move to where they find it most suitable.
@@wagner9527 You realize rule of law and being annoying are different things, right? Also rule of law and culture are distinct. When a government accepts a migrant the only pact is on rule of law.
The moment you invite someone to live with you, in your space, you are not only changing yourself the space you live in but also inviting an individual agent.
Why the hell do you think europe is becoming islamic and turning rightwing?
You invited a person from another culture to live in your country you to begin it changed your own country's culture.
@@LNVACVAC Agree with the rule of law and culture aspect difference. Regarding the rest you're going too far, US/Canada received many Muslims and they are still US/Canada. I lived with a Muslim/iranian family in Canada for a while I can say that they were incorporated in the western social values, although they kept their faith. That's how it should be. Now imagining I receiving a job proposal to work in the Emirates and insisting on being vulgar and breaking and disrespecting social rules, kinda stupid.
@@wagner9527right 👍
As a female from those conservative countries you mentioned I didn’t wear a top at the beach until I was 12 and had big boobs. Also we would see naked tourists all the time and they did their thing and we did ours. Live and let live! We also all changed on the benches in the swimming pool! I was still shocked when I went to Germany but still way more relaxed than USA Americans. If you don’t sexualize things it is not weird!
In East Germany where I studied the student apartments were mixed. My bathroom had a door that you could close but some were in the basement and they were mixed. As a woman the only people that whistle at us were Latin or Turkish. No northern men does that! Super respectfully! Love Germans and Austrians!
Well I think in the East of the country things are different anyways. But there are for sure German guys who catcall, I've experienced it plenty of times during night time (but those who did usually are low class).
ITALY & GREECE being modest surprises me. They weren’t like that 2000 years ago in the Roman Empire’s nude public baths
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Yes indeed. Northern men, with manners, are never the problem.
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance.
2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles.
3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
@@SigmaLegendus69 Privacy and prudity are as related as communism and sardines. If privacy is a basic human right, while its opposite leads to degeneration, then it's the fake friendliness of countries like the Australia (or the USA), where people ask incredibly nosy personal questions to complete strangers which is a degenerated society. Which is accentuated by being very religious conservative societies, so is, full of double standards and hypocrisy.
The German (and even Nordic) approach to nudity is not the problem; it is the prudishness and over-sexualisation of the idea in the rest of the world which is the real problem. There is nothing sexual whatsoever about going to a FKK beach or a sauna. It’s more a feeling of liberty and people at these places are not gawking at each other. Critical shocked at the notion should really grow up and look in their own mirror to see where the problem really lies.
Kudos on giving it (sauna and FKK beach) a proper go, though…takes bravery!
@@jarrettreckseidlerewwww no way ,never will I be naked
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance.
2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles.
3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
@@Србомбоница86 Do you shower fully clothed?
@@rafarequeni822They're generally doing it in private.
Southern Germany and especially Bavaria never had much of an fkk culture. It was more of a thing in the East and North of Germany.
Good for you, Marina. Trying out new things even though not that comfortable for you.
I know this is not a political channel but, whilst a nudist environment holds no interest for me either, Germans must be (rightly) dismayed when other cultures/regions come to their country and have the audacity to lecture them on nudity. Whatever happened to "when in Rome"? If you don't like it you don't have to be there.
Loving the new content. All the best.
Hopefully, Westerners have the same mentality and attitude like yours when it comes to the Muslim world and stop lecturing and imposing their nudity on us Muslims.
I found your video very interesting. Many thanks for it. However, I (as a German) would advise you to undress yourself before the next interview with people at nude beaches. You will find that people are much more accessible and friendly when you put yourself on the same level with them. But don't get me wrong. I really admire your courage to try the sauna. And of course it is normal, if it is uncomfortable for you to be alone with another naked men in a sauna cabin for the first time. But that‘s totally normal and you don‘t have to fear anything in such a situation.
Germany nude culture was big in the 90s. Nowadays Germany has become super conservative in comparison. This also has a lot to do with Muslim immigration, who do not accept German or Nordic culture, instead they want to influence it according to their own ideas. These days Spain is much more open about nudity than Germany
I believe that’s true for FKK, but not for saunas. There are much more and much bigger saunas than in the 90s nowadays.
Most of the nude people in saunas were older.
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance.
2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles.
3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
I would rather they went home. Different cultures can never get along when they share the same land, and folk like us will get shoved aside for them if they stay. It is antiwhitism.
@@SigmaLegendus69 You are free to think that in your own homeland, but don't push it on us or you are antiwhite.
Sauna is the only place left to be naked and not be photographed.
And of course the swingerclubs 😉
In France it is well known that nudist beaches are mostly for german and dutch mostly :D. Nudity in France is not public, it is more at home, in your apartement, maybe everybody does it, I dont know :D
Cap Agde in Provence is a totally naked town with shops, bars, restaurants and clubs. Clothing is optional so it's comfortable for most visitors.
@@karelius7085 Cap d'Agde is not in provence but in Occitanie but yes it is the most popular naked town in France, mostly for foreign tourists in the summer and also for swingers all year round ;)
@@karelius7085 Cap d'Agde is not naturist, not recognized by the Fédération Française de Naturist, it's a place for swingers.
France used to be open about that. It's not that way now.
The crazy ones are the Americans who freak out over uncovered body parts, but sell weapons that can make a dozen holes in covered bodies in a second, to the general public who in civilised countries have no business owning weapons.
Yea but it normal to freak out with both g3ns and no cloths on more with g3ns as they can be toward you but doesn mean to ignore this case
Germany is not N°1, Austria, Spain, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, ztr much more naturists. But yes, it has nothing to do with USA, where you can be arrested if you zre nude on a park, on a beach, and even in your own garden!
True. But I stayed one month in Munich last year, I visited Austria several times, and find a place where you can relax, swim, sunbathe naked is quite easy in Germany.
Yes. There is a nudist beach in Vienna, for instance.
I'm Portuguese, definitely NOT a country where nudity happens naturally.
When I moved to Germany I did try out the saunas and realized people are there to relax and disconnect from the world. There's absolutely nothing sexual about it.
I have noticed though, that I feel more comfortable at female only saunas or a mix sauna where people are around my age.
I enjoy the way nudity is seen as not sexual and so natural in Germany and Nordic cultures and that's something we all should learn with them.
Shame on people from radically different cultures who can't understand, they're the ones bringing "sexual connotations" to somebody else's non sexual cultural habit. That is actually a problem and I never went to a mix sauna at my gym because I don't want to be naked near these guys with that mentality.
I see no issue with some cultures being more conservative about nudity, they got nothing to be ashamed of.
@@Why.Just_why They have the right to their thoughts. But have no right to bother people or impose their views based on a ultra conservative religion. If it's so shocking for them, then avoid those places.
But your Portuguese culture doesn't accept. So are you saying shame on your own culture?😮
@@tar2c690 I don't know where you got that idea??!! Where have I said Portuguese culture does not accept nudity? It's not a normal thing. Germans come to Portugal on holidays, get naked and nobody cares. Live and let live.
If we move to Germany, we obviously will respect the German culture. Please, don't misinterpret or distort my words.
@@tar2c690She said “radically different”, not mildly. It may be a reference to the guy’s comment that a Muslim once came to criticize the German guy for doing it.
The Portuguese may not be as comfortable going nude as the Germans, but when it happens, it’s not a huge shock as it would be in some other countries.
Nudity and sexuality are not the same things. Most people have sex naked but are naked in many, many other situations, which have nothing to do with sexuality too. That‘s how most Germans feel and so it‘s not a big deal for us to be naked together with others of the same or the other gender.
Yeah! This is the way. Only mature cultures understand this. Latins, Asians, middle easterns, victorians would hide their body for centuries still, hiding their true self, hiding their liberty.
and you can also have a very sexual behaviour, even an intercourse, without beeing naked.
naked in what other situations?
@@youtubearsivi9223 showering, sleeping, being born, as a baby, changing clothes, sitting on the toilet (at least half-naked) …
@@gerdweist5961 I get your point but non of these can be comparable with having intimacy with someone
Congrats on having the courage of making this video, you definitely look uneasy with nudity but you did it anyway despite the uneasy feeling. That’s emotional maturity! 🎉
I remember going to a nude beach in Jamaica, and wasn't really uncomfortable. Just keep reminding myself not to stare and just look at faces so much that I couldn't keep a conversation lol.
BTW I've seen that in Switzerland, especially in Zurich and Geneva. That was many years ago, but I'm not sure if it is popular now.
Actually emotional maturity is avoid risks you're unfortable with, but not taking the risk anyway with no benefits, even if you're uncomfortable, that is not emotional maturrity according to you it is.
Some comments here don't pass the vibe check. I think nudity is something very beautiful. I absolutely love going to the sauna because it's so refreshing for body and mind. For me it is healthy in so many ways and so very relaxing. I feel more in tune and accepting of my own body, it's a peaceful thing. And yes, it is a form of freedom. I get that the first time visiting a sauna can be scary. But like everything else: the more often you do it, the easier it gets.
I have never had an uncomfortable situation in a sauna, people are polite and even more open and relaxed than they are on the streets. Which makes sense because everyone is somehow vulnerable and nobody can assume much about you because there are no possessions or clothes that could give you away. You just don't judge people because more than ever you realize how much the same we all are and and at the same time how beautifully different.
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance.
2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles.
3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
@@SigmaLegendus69why are you just trolling writing the same thing under comments?
@@SteveRogers-y1j I am not trolling, and writing the same thing, its called fact checking and not as simiple as that by just having a statement in the form of a simple opinion or a fact.
@@SigmaLegendus69 you wrote a whole paragraph of nothing
@@SteveRogers-y1j You're gaslighting? You got no proof, so you just deny.
"That you have to pretend that this is somehow normal and they are not looking at you in a sexual way" while the video overall was nice and openminded, this comment really rubs me the wrong way. As a 22 year old woman who loves going to the sauna (always naked and mixed gender) most men don't look at you sexually at all. Ofc there are always exceptions but it is genuinely not sexual here (no pretending necessary). In my experience no one looks at you in the sauna
For someone who's used to being naked in the sauna, I can completely understand this is your experience. For someone who is not, the world is viewed through a different lens. That's why it's interesting to talk about these cultural differences as there is no right or wrong answer, but different perspectives we can respect :)
@@DatingBeyondBorders Of course your experience is not wrong as that's subjective, but the way you phrased that particular sentence in the video sounded disrespectful in my opinion. To me, you made it sound like the men were staring at you like a piece of meat or something. Which would be an unfair representation of saunas and could scare people off. But this is just my interpretation and I'm sure your intentions were good
It's just a major cultural difference between Germany and North America. In the US and Canada, nudity is always sexual. While in Germany it is not. So when Americans or Canadians visit Germany, even though we understand this aspect of German society, it is difficult to suddenly change our mindset about nudity because we grew up having it ingrained into us that nudity is always sexual. So her mind automatically going to a place of "oh these men are looking at me sexually" would be totally normal and instinctual for a Canadian.
I guarantee that if a fit man that you found attractive was in that sauna with you, you would feel aroused at some point and you would check him out. At that very moment it becomes sexual. The same for him. Stop normalizing perversion.
1) Being Prude is not a bad thing, it is a good thing because privacy is a basic human right, while the opposite of that is degerancy, because it is full of ignorance and arrogance.
2) Also when you mention: "the issue with sexualisation and over-sexualisation, don't forget that it is not as simple as just saying that, there are other complexities", (you're either doing it, you can't assume that if someone is thinking in a certain way, it either is or isn't). Which is all based on logic and common sense on human behaviours and actions, while someones political orientation, religion and philosophical, and scienctific views, does shape cultural beliefs and ideologies and how people percieve information. While understanding the full context, circumstances, nuances, whilst also knowing, boundaries, limitations, preferences and standards of everybody in a situation in real life is the key to understanding the principles.
3) A culture filled with double standards and hypocrisy fuels degerancy.
I grew up in Munich going to what we call "family sauna", which means every gender and age group is welcome. For me nudity isn't linked to sex.
I have a friend from a very catholic, conservative family in Sardinia and she once visited and found the courage to come with me to the mixed sauna. Afterwards she said she had never felt less observed than there and she was used to be looked at all the time in her bathing suit at the beach growing up and had never expected to feel more comfortable naked in the sauna than in a bathing suit on the beach.
Je weniger Kleidung, desto weniger Sexualität und umgekehrt: Je mehr Kleidung, desto respektloser die Sexualität. Kleidung ist Kultur, ein Symbol für Geldstatus,Kultur und religiöser Glaubeund das Verbergen der Wahrheit.Das Zentrum der Sexualität liegt nicht in den Genitalien, sondern im Gehirn. Die Augen liegen.
My wife and I love to travel to saunas in Europe. They have a proper sauna culture. I prefer The Netherlands over Germany personally for nudism.
Well, it's their culture, they've been doing that for ages. If you don't like it simply DON'T go there. Anyway, as always, thanks for the video.
Yeah exactly because cannibalism is also part of some tribal cultures.
Here in Brazil, it's really unusual to be naked in saunas, probably because it's a hot country, and people don't use to go to saunas. There're some beaches where you can be naked, but usually, this beaches are in places, hided from general scrutiny. I'm going to visit German and Denmark next month and i must confess that if i have the chance to go naked to the sauna, i certainly will. I guess it'll be at least interesting 😅
Generally speaking it is advisable to sauna-bathe nude to avoid possible injury. Proper saunas have ,many health benefits. For one thing, a good sweat detoxifies, rejuvenates and invigorates. High sauna temperatures (for instance 80 degrees C) can promote sweating. To wear swimsuits at high temperatures is very uncomfortable and may scald the skin.
So, tell us about your experience please, haha
Yes, I live in east Germany, we have many FKK beaches, mixed saunas, for me as a russian first time was a shock but now after many years I'm okay with it (married to german btw haha) Saunas are great here, especially during cold wet winters.
In Spain it’s always the old ladies that flash you first. Guys go to those places for young girls but we are not the interested demographic.
I'm British - there isn't much nudity here at all (not just because it's cold! Infact lots of Europe is actually colder than many parts of the UK for alot of the year) actually think it comes from prudish protestant beliefs (likely exported even more so to the americas with their even more extreme founding fathers etc.). Going on holiday in Europe as a teenager was a bit of a shock initially but actually think it's great, nudity and sexuality don't need to be conflated and it's a much more mature and natural way to view peoples bodies and less childish.
There's a stronger muslim/south Asian influence in the UK now which makes it much harder with lots of people very against nudity, again a relic of masoginy etc.
If you were to be naked in public you'd be arrested (indecent exposure)
Lots of germans do only speak german but there's nearly always someone around who speaks english.
Pretty sure Italy, Spain, Portugal nobody cares about sunbathing topless.. used to see some people walking around naked on beaches too - perhaps they were tourists.
Just to clarify, being naked in public in England is perfectly legal as long as you’re not trying your shock or offend or doing something sexual. The BN site has further advice about the freedoms we have.
Being Naked is no big thing, it's just a body people. Beach, Sauna, and at Home, we even haven have a park that has a place where you can even go nude, If you don't feel comfortable don't go. Nude or not it's still a person old, young, big, or little...there is nothing wrong just don't stare a glance is okay.
You should go to Denmark or Spain where so many beautiful girls are naked on regular beaches. What's the problem of being confident about one's body?
Or just comfortable?
Oh, so it's only okay to be comfortable naked if you're a woman? What about the plethora of homophobic men who can't stand to see other men naked and start complaining about it?
Mostly topless in Spain
@@user-or6yn8pm3c Not even then, nowadays.
Asking "Do you go nude in the sauna" is like asking do you go naked if you take a shower. Could of course be that in other parts in the world people do wear clothing when they wash themselves but well.... Seems obvious for me ;-)
Watching a documentary about birth and see the actual birth is for me less of a trauma than seeing people getting killed or worse gruesome torture and mutilation and that is quite common nowadays on public channels and movies... Nakedness is a natural thing. Everybody is naked under their clothes. You are born naked. And shockingly for some cultures in my family we are used to walk in when other family members are showering. That's nothing to do with sexuality but just with a natural thing 🙂 But as the naked guy in the park said.. It is awkward if people are voyeuristic and stare at you or worse... make pictures and videos..
Summmary: Germany is the country where people most like to be with no clothes in world 😂
No, probably Nigeria or Brazil is
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@emilsinclair4190
Thanks for the reply, but it seems like I can't find your replies anymore.
Well I don't need to be careful with my thoughts according to your last reply in our discussion.
But the thing is I can understand your logic but you can't understand mine, even if I tried to be more specific.
You only want to see that your logic is valid and relevant and no other logic exists.
We can have differences of opinions and facts but you don't need to act irritated.
"It depends on the woman" lol 😂 my man nailed it
I hope it doesn't result in a shitstorm for me 😂
I walked through a nudist beach in Bulgaria in my teenage years. Seeing old nude German and Russian tourists never made me few so foreign in my own country. 😂
When i was at a beach in boltenhagen i went to the FKK area of the beach. I preferred it. Way more space and less crowded. It wasn't sexual at all.
In order to understand this topic of nudity in German, we should get in touch or read German philosofers Schelling Fichte... German Idealism.... They are awesome 🤠🤠❤️❤️❤️
The muslim shaming on the nudist in Germany just give me a good laugh. Hopefully Germany still won’t mix religion into politics especially the one that highly supports on conservative beliefs and restrictions. Let people live. You come to live here not owning it. If the foreigners travel to religious countries and can adapt themselves to enjoy it, why not the religious themselves in other countries?
honestly I am thinking dude you are in their country and they are free to follow their laws as they see fit, if its not a muslim country they can't do crap about it.
Because such people don’t want to integrate, rather they want to bend their new societies to their norms.
They should go back to their homelands. They are no longer at war, so what is their business here?
We need a homeland for White children.
I am proud of you for accepting the fact and a shock culture for trying to experience it once yourself. We needed to know about this and open our mind irrespective of respecting everyone's different culture and society. ❤
ITALY & GREECE being modest surprises me. They weren’t like that 2000 years ago in the Roman Empire’s nude public baths
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Nudists don't "show" their parts for all to see, they are just nude.
If so why dont they go do it in their homes and not outside or somewhere closed for only them to see themselves they fr cared enough they want to go public 0 common sense
@@farhkittyanimations Because the least people have the money to have a whole sauna complex and a swimming pool at home nor do they have a garden where they could tan. Your question gives me "Why going to the cinema if you can watch movie at home?-Vibe.
@@farhkittyanimations Do you think they have a beach in their home?
@@Siegfried5846 the crazy fact you will risk being like this just because you have no beach in home is showing how shameful you can get beside how bad it is as well and is stupid mindset for some people you would definitely be like this in everything that gives beach vibes as long as they let you + you don't even care because you seem a big fan of it by this defending comment you just commented excusing them
@@farhkittyanimations What gives you the right to decide how we do things here?
7:36 it’s funny that In the Netherlands it is quite common knowledge that a lot of Germans DO NOT speak English very well. So how did you get the complete oppositie message??😂
None of my German girl classmates are happy or comfortable about it, saunas or beaches. And they get harassed too
Some words about France, my country: there is 150 naturist resorts, and approx 200 official naturist beaches. We could thing it's good, and France is the number one naturist destination in the World. BUT being nude out those specific places is very difficult. If in Spain you can undress when you find a wild place, if in Germany you'll find a lot of "FKK" places (each lake will have its naturist beach, swimming pools have special pools or horaries for naturists; there is also naturist spaces in public gardens), if in Austria there are groups hiking nude, in France, if you are out of a naturist place, you can have serious problems, even in your own garden. And you have also a lot of people with origins in North Africa, who consider that if you are naked, or even topless, you are a whore and they'll yeld of you, film you, put their hands on you etc. And in some regions, where there is no sea, there is simply no naturist place. You have to take your car and travel 250 Km to find a place, where you can come only if you rent something for a week.
So, France, for naturist vacation, it's super, but just for an afternoon by a hot day, it's usually not possible unless you live at the coast.
Im from North Africa and would appreciate if you don’t generalise all people. I would never get close to a nude beach simply because I have no interest in this activity and even less to the people.
While you’re busy complaining to show your genitals to other kids, your country still allows incest to be legal. The Muslims banished it thousands of years ago. So watch your tongue, you don’t have any lessons to give here.
@@chloeanastasia8440 l'inceste en France est puni de 10 ans de prison, vous racontez n'importe quoi en disant que c'est légal! Et en plus, la loi a été durcie en avril 2021. On croirait Poutine, votre discours! Vous n'avez pas honte?
In France you can find naturist club ground or camping in a majority of departements, no need to go near a beach.
Algerians*
@@BangFarang1 In western and southern France, yes, but if you reside in Reims, Dijon etc., there is quite nothing, usually you have to drive more the 150 or 200 KM.
I didn't experience German nudist culture until I was 44 years old. I went to a spa/sauna resort and did nude sun-bathing and swimming at a couple of outdoor lakes and pools. After it initially feeling weird, I soon got used to it and felt very liberated by it. I ended up loving it and miss it very much since I haven't been in Germany in over five years, and there are very few opportunities for it in the USA (at least legally). I was fine with the mixed nude sauna and swimming. It takes the sexuality of nudity out of the equation. You learn to view other nude people as just people enjoying themselves like you are. I wish more Western countries would take part in this liberating culture.
Totally fell for the clickbait "Most Naked Country in the World"!! Turns out its my own 😆😆😆. I am not really surprised on second thought, mixed Saunas are totally normal, and at work one of my standard quiz questions this year is always "How many nude people today at the next beach?" 😆.
If you don't want to see nudity (or let your family see nudity), DON'T GO THERE!!!! It is that simple. I don't understand what makes you fear it so much but just stay away if it affects you that much. Frankly, you have to learn shame about your body. Children are known to enjoy running around nude just as fast as they get a chance. In my opinion, the more taboo you make it, the more interest it gets. We all have a body, and it is natural and wholesome. They come in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders. Because fashion and media only show their idealized versions, people feel inadequate and sometimes lose all self worth because they feel they don't or cannot emulate that standard. There are chihuahuas and St. Bernards and neither can become the other. Both are beautiful and belong just as they are.
I'd feel very uncomfortable in that Sauna, whether there are other men or women in the room.
Thats maybe 10% of the population, not "Germans" in general...
I am german and I am the complete opposite. I would never be nude in public never ever🤯
This video is old and only applies to some beaches.
Most nude places are Africa and Brazil
I know my boundaries, no need to try to fool myself. I would only be comfortable at an all-female sauna.
Yes, 30 years ago, stationed in Germany while in US military my wife and I did do the nude public thing and I would again.
I was also in the military in 1990’s Germany. We went to different saunas and schwimbad or lakes whenever we could. Being nude in Germany was the first time my wife was confident about her body. We still seek out nude resorts and beaches but it is disappointing how difficult it is to find nude recreation on par with what Germany had.
I was stationed in Germany in 1991 as part of Desert Storm. At the time I was a serious weight lifter and could work out 3-4 hours a day. As an Army Major I loved the German people. At that time they had excuse my spelling, Swimbauches . Obviously I can’t spell it . But this was an area’s where for a few dm you could work out and swim naked. The first time there I wore my swimming suit. And no one was paying attention which I loved after that I would never swim with clothes. Because I was such a professional athlete, the local older ladies would follow me around as I exercised and swam in the pool and hot tube. I did not pay attention to them and in Nuremberg it was so cold and working out and swimming area was great. I have never understood why Americans are so ashamed of their bodies until recently because of morbid obesity. The obesity problem in the U.S. is greater to health than all medical problem’s combined. Do not these people have no pride!?
Meat, milk and eggs are at fault. I never see fat vegans.
This discussion was SO interesting, and as a Latin I share more of your perspective than Germans’ 😅😂😂
Im german and I dont know anyone but old people who do FKK😅
We are human being should have limit to whatever we do. If we let our imagination and desire unchecked, we become fooking idiots and shameless creature aka animal. Well, tons of animal have their coats.
Fr this is sooo miserable the way they explain their prov0ked actions saying we are free etc etc they don't know they are being tricked by the government
To me, that German sign about the Cercariae causing Swimmer's Itch would be more disconcerting than the nudity...
Sex and naturisme is not the same. In the Netherlands the naturisme is growing.
In sauna / spa centers you are nude! If we dont do so spastisch about nudity the world would be much nicer. Whats the added value of bathing clothes?
its actually worse to go with clothes in the sauna, because the high temperatures in there can free dangerous chemicals from synthtetic fibers.. also the sweat wich accumulates in the clothing is not benefical at all. Naked sauna is the healthier way.
No it is not it can be worse, where is the science?
Generally speaking it's advisable to sauna-bathe nude to avoid possible injury. Proper saunas have ,many health benefits. For one thing, a good sweat detoxifies, rejuvenates and invigorates. High sauna temperatures (for instance 80 degrees C) can promote sweating. To wear swimsuits at high temperatures is very uncomfortable and may scald the skin.
Well, I have something to add from actual research and fact-checking:
Based on the available scientific evidence, there are several points to consider regarding sauna use and clothing:
## Clothing in Saunas
Traditionally, saunas are used nude or with minimal clothing like a towel. This practice has both cultural and practical reasons:
**Heat Transfer:** Nude sauna use allows for more efficient heat transfer to the body and promotes sweating[1]. Clothing can act as an insulator, potentially interfering with the sauna's intended effects.
**Comfort:** High temperatures in saunas (typically 70-100°C) can make wearing clothing uncomfortable[1]. Wet clothing from sweat can stick to the skin and potentially cause discomfort or irritation.
## Chemical Concerns
The claim about dangerous chemicals being released from synthetic fibers in high temperatures is not well-supported by scientific evidence in the context of sauna use. While some synthetic materials can release chemicals when heated to very high temperatures, typical sauna temperatures are unlikely to cause significant chemical release from most clothing materials.
## Sweating and Detoxification
The idea that sweating in a sauna provides significant detoxification benefits is somewhat controversial. While sweating does eliminate some toxins, the liver and kidneys are the primary organs responsible for detoxification[2]. Sauna use may support these processes indirectly by promoting circulation and relaxation.
## Safety Considerations
**Hygiene:** Sitting directly on sauna benches can be unhygienic. Using a clean towel as a barrier is often recommended for public saunas.
**Skin Protection:** While nude sauna use is traditional, there's no strong evidence that wearing a swimsuit in a sauna is harmful to skin health, provided the suit is clean and comfortable.
**Hydration:** Regardless of clothing, proper hydration before, during, and after sauna use is crucial to avoid dehydration[1].
## Conclusion
While nude sauna use is traditional and may offer some benefits in terms of comfort and heat transfer, there's no strong scientific evidence that wearing clothing in a sauna is significantly harmful. The most important factors for safe and beneficial sauna use are proper hydration, moderate session length, and listening to your body's signals[1][2]. If using a public sauna, following the facility's guidelines for attire and hygiene is advisable.
Citations:
[1] www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/what-to-know-saunas-and-health
[2] www.healthline.com/health/fitness-exercise/are-saunas-good-for-you
[3] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5941775/
[4] www.nib.com.au/the-checkup/the-science-and-benefits-of-sauna-use
[5] www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/313109
[6] www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/saunas-and-your-health
[7] www.forbes.com/health/wellness/sauna-benefits/
[8] www.goodrx.com/well-being/alternative-treatments/sauna-benefits
Additionally with regards to that:
When considering whether to use a sauna nude or with minimal clothing, such as a towel, there are cultural, practical, and personal preference factors to weigh. Here's a breakdown of the considerations:
## Nude Sauna Use
### Benefits
- **Efficient Heat Transfer:** Nude sauna use allows for better heat transfer to the skin, promoting effective sweating and potentially enhancing the sauna's health benefits, such as improved skin and detoxification[2][4].
- **Cultural Tradition:** In many cultures, particularly in Finland, using the sauna nude is traditional and seen as a natural part of the experience[2][4].
- **Comfort:** Without clothing, there is no risk of fabric sticking to the skin or causing discomfort due to sweat accumulation[1][2].
### Considerations
- **Hygiene:** It is important to use a towel to sit on to maintain hygiene and protect the sauna benches from sweat[2][4].
- **Etiquette:** In public saunas, it is crucial to respect local customs and the comfort levels of others. Nudity might not be acceptable everywhere, so it's important to be aware of the specific sauna's rules and cultural norms[3][4].
## Minimal Clothing (Towel or Light Clothing)
### Benefits
- **Modesty and Comfort:** For those uncomfortable with full nudity, wrapping a towel or wearing loose, breathable cotton clothing provides a balance between modesty and comfort[2][3][4].
- **Hygiene:** A towel can serve as a hygienic barrier between the body and sauna surfaces[2][3].
- **Cultural Sensitivity:** In places where nudity is not the norm, wearing a towel or minimal clothing can prevent awkwardness and respect cultural differences[1][3].
### Considerations
- **Heat Insulation:** Clothing, especially if not breathable, can insulate the body and potentially reduce the effectiveness of sweating and heat exposure[1][5].
- **Material Choice:** It's important to avoid synthetic materials, which can trap heat and moisture, leading to discomfort. Natural fibers like cotton or linen are recommended[3][5].
## Conclusion
The choice between using a sauna nude or with minimal clothing depends largely on personal comfort, cultural norms, and the specific sauna environment. Nude use is traditionally considered optimal for maximizing the sauna's benefits, but using a towel or light clothing can be a suitable alternative in public or mixed-gender settings. Always prioritize comfort, hygiene, and respect for others when deciding on sauna attire.
Citations:
[1] www.reddit.com/r/Sauna/comments/11aionk/clothes_or_no_clothes_in_the_sauna/
[2] www.recoveryguru.com.au/blog/what-to-wear-in-a-sauna-and-what-to-avoid-for-maximum-comfort
[3] posh.co.uk/living/what-to-wear-in-a-sauna/
[4] thesaunalife.com/what-to-wear-in-an-infrared-sauna/
[5] shymsaunas.com.au/blog/what-to-wear-sauna/
[6] kitra.pl/en/in-the-sauna-without-a-costume-why-is-it-best-to-be-naked-in-the-sauna/
[7] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5941775/
[8] www.nib.com.au/the-checkup/the-science-and-benefits-of-sauna-use
And lastly.
When considering cultural norms around nudity in saunas versus clothing requirements, it's important to recognize that these practices exist on a spectrum influenced by various cultural, historical, and social factors. Here's an analysis of the situation:
## Cultural Context of Nude Saunas
In countries like Finland, Germany, and parts of Scandinavia, nude sauna use is a longstanding cultural tradition:
- **Cultural Norm:** Nude sauna use is seen as natural, non-sexual, and tied to concepts of equality and body acceptance.
- **Freedom and Privilege:** In these cultures, the ability to use saunas nude is indeed viewed as a freedom - a way to engage in a traditional practice without shame or restriction.
## Clothing Requirements in Saunas
In other cultures, particularly in North America and parts of Asia, clothing in saunas is often required or expected:
- **Cultural Norm:** Modesty norms and different attitudes towards public nudity lead to expectations of wearing swimwear or towels in saunas.
- **Perceived Right:** In these contexts, the ability to maintain bodily privacy in public spaces, including saunas, is often viewed as a right.
## Balancing Freedom and Rights
The tension between these practices highlights several important points:
1. **Cultural Relativism:** What's considered a freedom in one culture may be seen as inappropriate or even offensive in another.
2. **Personal Autonomy:** Both the freedom to be nude and the right to maintain privacy can be viewed as expressions of personal autonomy.
3. **Public vs. Private Spaces:** The norms often differ between public facilities and private or members-only establishments.
4. **Evolving Attitudes:** Cultural norms around nudity and body acceptance are not static and can change over time.
## Conclusion
While nude sauna use in some cultures represents a freedom and privilege rooted in tradition, the right to maintain bodily privacy in public spaces is equally valid in cultures where this is the norm. Neither practice is inherently superior; both reflect different cultural values and historical contexts.
The key is to respect local customs and norms while also recognizing that individuals may have personal preferences that differ from the prevailing culture. In practice, many establishments in culturally diverse areas offer options to accommodate different comfort levels, such as separate nude and clothed areas or specific times for nude use.
Citations:
[1] study.com/academy/lesson/cultural-norms-definition-values-quiz.html
[2] www.reddit.com/r/sociology/comments/mv0ntx/difference_between_cultural_norms_and_societal/
[3] www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-protections/human-rights-and-anti-discrimination/human-rights-scrutiny/public-sector-guidance-sheets/right-enjoy-and-benefit-culture
[4] www.qhrc.qld.gov.au/your-rights/human-rights-law/cultural-rights
[5] www.globalcognition.org/cultural-norms/
[6] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7126161/
[7] www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749597815000084
[8] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5941775/
I think that a decisive factor to label one's attitude in a naked sauna, is to what extent the person is tempted to look at the naked bodies of others around. I would say that the Germans attention is not directed toward that, but simply enjoy themselves during the time spent there. As the guy in your video said, he enjoys the sauna- nothing more nothing less than that.
its not just German thing that you go to sauna. its just normal traditional way to do sauna. is naked.
@14:26 you have to register to be a nudist?!? Like, some sort of license with the gov't?
FKK was a BIG thing in the "DDR", when East Germany was still a separate country, where the government was very controlling, so nudity was a form of "freedom".
Germany used to be relaxed about nudity, but since the arrival of thousands of islamic young men, it has become dangerous. Local swimming pools have trouble controlling even mixed swimmers. Islamic men crowd round any woman in a very threatening manner. Same on the beach, but the police won't intervene because of discrimination.
Well wrong? It gets more relaxed with each year since a lot if the old Conservative Christians are dying while young people are more chilled.
The trouble in some swimming pools has nothing to do with nudity at all. There was no trouble at nude beaches as far as I know.
@@emilsinclair4190there is muslim areas ,there is no christians in Germany
@SRBOMBONICA86 sure... 45 million Christians in Germany would disagree with you...
Divide this number by 10 and you have the Muslim population
@@emilsinclair4190German christians are liberal
You can’t wear clothes at a nudist beach. It’s gauche.
Portugal? Spain? Conservative? They'd walk the baixas or the plazas naked if they could and not get arrested.
Portugal is quite conservative. Spain much less so. And in Spain you can't get arrested for being nude in a plaza. It would be awkard, but not illegal.
For women in a german city to be naked would be life risking nowadays.
Thanks to antiwhite non-Whites.
I can confirm. I went to a sauna in Germany and the whole complex, including the changing rooms, were mixed and naked.
In Italy long time ago (pre internet) there was a buzz about closing nude beaches because tourists were not attracted to see whole families naked too bad i cant give an url on that it was in news somewhere. In Brazil topless for a time looked like it would be a normal thing But only girls with high muscled boyfriends would try it. Girls use gstrings all around but feminine topless is"out". But trans people have a short stretch of Copacana beach where nobody will disturb them. In Brazil beach fashion and trends start in Rio de Janeiro so that is it. Only some beaches will have laws special for nude sunbathers with special regulations people with a bone have to go get a sea "bath" to cool of.
Nah man they didn't want to see naked men on the beaches.
The City Park in the middle of Munich was called English Garden because it was designed by an Englishman and the Bavarian's wanted a Park that looked like Hyde Park in London,.
I spent a LOT of time there at the Beer Garden in the 1970s and there was a FKK part back then in 1972.
I was in Germany 10 years ago, I went to Baden Baden for work. Me and my collegues wanted to try the spa experience. Once inside we had to undress, I have never felt so uncomfortable....
Nudity is not about sex, it is about nature, it is about feeling comfortable in your body whatever shape and size of body you have, young or old, fat or thin. You learn to see all bodies as naturally beautiful. So it teaches you to look at all people as natural and focus beauty in the character.
Nudist parks, FKK beaches and nude saunas are in my bucket list to try out!
"Countries like Greece, Italy, Portugal, are STILL quite conservative when it comes to the attitudes about nudity". What makes you think that these countries are waiting for a change that their "conservatism" has delayed? Why shouldn't the other countries you consider "progressive" be the ones that "still" have the wrong attitude? Did you decide which is the right attitude and which is the wrong one?
Great Video, with the exception of your uneasiness with being naked.
Even in Japan, people go naked to saunas, which are called onsen in Japan.
I visited once. 😅
In Munich there are some quiet spots where people chill topless or naked. And a 80 year old couple chills there naked everyday in the Summer. So if you want to relax naked at the Isar, you will find a place. Apart from FFK beaches, it should be a more quiet, not too crowded place - then it is very much tolerated.
I swear the minority on spain beaches is with swimwear 😂😂
I grew up in Eastern Germany in the 80‘s when it was very common to go swimming nude. We even showered all together in the students hostel because we had only one public shower for men and women. It was no big deal. We even chilled or learned together on the next lake naked. Nowadays it‘s not so popular anymore. There are still FKK beaches, but not so many as 20 or 30 years ago. Sauna culture is another thing. There are many big saunas where it is also not allowed to use the cabins with clothes and the saunas are more and more popular and very crowded at least in the wintertime. But generally speaken it‘s not about sexuality but because of the free body feeling. So it doesn‘t matter how your body looks like when you visit a nude beach. It‘s not what the others are interested in. Normally nobody will stare at you.
Some staring but very secretly haha. Good figure always attracts men.😄 Most unpleasant thing when muslims visit it for fun, they must be not allowed to enter there after innapropriate behaviour. (My husband is east german man)
@@Olsblog No one should be allowed to enter after inappropriate behaviour. There is no guarantee that no one shows inappropriate behaviour on a nude beach or in a sauna. But there is also no guarantee for this on normal beaches .
I think FKK the way they practiced in GDR was better than body positivity today . I noticed that East Germans seem to have a different attitude when it comes to sexuality. In short, healthier. Do you notice differences between people who grew up in GDR vs FDR? I watched Liebt der osten anders. Is body positivity a thing in Germany?
@@g2000g Generally body positivity and sex positivity are different movements in Germany which are linked together perhaps, but are not completeley the same. So you have to distinct between them. Body positivity is more related to FKK and nudity. So you should not be ashamed of your body and all bodies have to be respected if they fulfill the classical criteria of beauty or not. So you will not be rated in any way if you are naked in the sauna or at the beach. This was much more widespread in the GDR. Nudity alone is not sexual . Sex positivity has it‘s roots in the sexual revolution of the 60‘s and it was also a form of protest against the authorities. There was an inofficial rule in the communities of this period: „Anyone who sleeps with the same person twice is already part of the establishment.“. This was a movement in Western Germany (68er). Nowadays there are no big differences between Eastern Germany and Western Germany regarding both movements I would say. Sex positivity also means equal rights for the LGBT.. community. But the most FKK beaches (body positivity) and also the the most well known clubs (sex positivity, Berghain, Kitkat) are in Eastern Germany or Berlin.
@@gerdweist5961 oh, in the US body positivity is like celebrating obesity unfortunately.
I want to ask you some questions if you don’t mind…since I dated a man who grew up in MV and another in NRW. Yes they were young when the reunification happened . I watched the documentary liebt der osten anders( it is on RUclips ) and read articles about differences between the GDR and the FRG that persist to this day. It was quite interesting the guy who grew up in GDR did not adopt the attitude of West Germany and had the classic Approach of old GDR. Of course, I don’t want to generalize but West Germany is more puritanical and conflicted and I hear German sex therapists saying clients who grew up in the East are frank and open when talking about issues and and are not conscious of an external gaze of media or society about sexual fulfillment and performance. That was a good thing because the FRG was more like the USA when it comes to sex. I think the FRG should have learned from the GDR when it comes to sex. II know not all was good in the GDR. I live in the US but I grew up in a dictatorship which had censorship when I was a kid , and I know how it is very well.
Maybe you can watch that documentary and you see anything that resonates. I read an article on a survey a marketing firm did and there was a difference between new FRG states and original FRG states. Also scholars who interviewed many East Germans after the reunification noted that East Germans felt freer, more natural , and more sensual though West Germans talk more and had the Sexual Revolution. That was my experience compared with the East German BF compared to the man from NRW and American men. West Germans approach more like Americans …unfortunately.
I guess one’s attitude may vary depending on how old one was when the reunification took place. My friend from MV was 15 years old when the reunification took place. I don’t want to bore you w a long comment but you were a teen at least when two Germanies reunified? Anyhow liebt der osten anders was very interesting and I see what is wrong w how the west approaches sex nowadays has limits and flaws…. Thank you for reading a long reply!
Here is the documentary…
ruclips.net/video/j_z6cTy-7Rk/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I had a similar experience to your sauna experience in a mixed changing room in Quebec; althought technically mix I think there is some unwritten ways in those spaces when at this hour you will have like 80% women then the next you will have 80% men wich is interesting. Back then when I understood that I was aiming at "women hour" to go train, now being a full naturist I got accustomed to be naked around a bunch of naked men cuz in Quebec naturist is like 75-80% men.
As for what we see on a nude beach is not that is only the bodies you don't wanna see that you see but rather all bodies including those you don't wanna see (although since it's a generation think you might see more boomers and X than millennial and zoomer...but the latter are there too...sometime).
I have been to a mixed nude sauna. At one point I was renting an apartment from a Finnish couple in the U.P. of Michigan. They had a sauna on the property and would invite me to share it with them on a regular basis. It took a little getting used to at first. Having experienced nudist beaches and naturist camping in Europe and the US. I much prefer being around naturist Europeans. Much more fun and relaxed. I have found my fellow american nudist to be very conservative and somewhat uptight. To the point that I rarely go to nude beaches here in the US sadly.
There are places/beaches in Greece where nudity is very much accepted. Just not everywhere.
lol Italy huh?
I remember a newspaper stand that had a picture 8’ tall with 6 naked models on it
And the Portuguese tv shampoo commercial saw model from the waist up 😂
Only here for the Skigaudi, We should try naked skiing sometimes....
Another reason for the reduction of nudity is the prevalence of smart phones.
Still as CRAZY about nudity. Is it really crazy .. or is it just bare nature?
I see nothing crazy about nudity at all. From age 16 I went to mixed nude sauna for decades. There were people of all sizes, gender, age, colcor. I never was at an FKK .. but would not hasitate either.
It´s not creepy to be naked .. I rather call the ones creepy to come to stare, make photos or videos.
And Sauna in Germany means: naked. Everything else is an exception. So it´s rather "unusual" for us to go into a "non naked" sauna. Nudity problems in a sauna is not a thing at all. As some people said "we don´t care". And just to amphasize: It´s nothing sexual - that would be weird. He/she/it would be forced to leave immediately and kept out for the future.
I think Spain made it legal to be naked in public. Anywhere.
Everybody naked when we born. I appreciate mother.
I agree that in general English people are often more prudish about nudity than some other Europeans and less prudish than many Americans. But if you watch UK television you might think otherwise. There was a sex education series on regular non subscription television which, among other things, showed sex using a tiny camera inside the vagina. Another show called 'Naked Attraction' features six uncensored naked people being chosen to go on a date by a singleton. But nudity on beaches and parks etc. is still not widely accepted.
I'm not sure about the idea that the fall off in nudity in Germany is caused by Muslim immigration. On the beaches of Southern Europe nudity and women going topless is not as popular as it was 40 years ago although nearly everyone on the beach are white Europeans. One suggestion as to why this is, is that young people are more body conscious because of the 'ideal' bodies on the internet.
Why do you find it so hard to say garden in German??? It's "Garten", not "Gar-Ten" or "Gar-Sen"????
Actually, most Germans understand English quite well, how else would they have understood your questions? But they have little practice speaking it, and many are afraid of sounding stupid, so they don't even try, or they get nervous when they have to, and their English sounds much worse than it would if they could speak freely at home. You can see that Germans understand English quite well when international stars are on a TV show with a live audience and they make a joke and the whole audience starts laughing before the joke has even been translated.
I suppose the cultural difference over the acceptability of nudity in society is akin to the societal willingness to understand where the food on our plate comes from.
In your example, Marina, of the Spanish Netflix film in which you can witness an actual birth, which is after all how we all got here on this Earth, how many people who eat meat, poultry and fish, like me, are okay with knowing where it comes from, how it gets converted step by step from live animal into juicy burger or whatever, with no censorship of the steps in between?
And why does it seem that nudity is frowned upon but violence is acceptable in culture? Isn't that a little odd?
Nudity should not be taken as shame as everyone is nude under the clothes. Think yourself as a innocent kids playing nude. They don't know about sex. So if an adult does so should not be criticized.
4:35 and it depends on generation,m I am from Netherlands. But same kind of going on as I grew up as I see here in Germany from the German ladies. Old folks are unfilterred, they drop pants wherever they deem nesscesary. My mom and her boyfriend, he an actual hippie, an dshe goes along..but same generation.. Was visiting them, they went on vacation to Greece..and wanted me toi see their camping pics.. no thanks, not eager to se mom's teabaggies and so on.. I wouldn't go camping like that, fully in the nude
I play in a marchingband and don't drive to the place I need to perform in uniform all the time. And there are places the band must play, where there isn't a volleyball hall to change to marchingband uniform. Many times we change clothes outside our cars from casual clothes to our uniforms. And it is normal... And when we do get a like volleygball, or basketball playground, men and women are mixed, changing clothes.. not a big deal.. yes you see, men and women have eyes, duh... we don't peek.. there is a difference... don't linger around .. change to uniform, and make sure buss be unpacked, get drums out, sousaphones, build your instrument( sousaphones)
I think people that finds nudity weird and at the same time seek to watch others nude are the ones having a problem.
Why would you film and broadcast a birth but not actually show it? Americans suggest the most terrible shameful infidelity in their films and series, but then have a beep and blur when shown. That is intensely hypocritical.
Stop waving your hands around. It is very distracting.
Marina filming a video on the FKK beach looks like a spy character from Hollywood comedy haha
Gernaky
The only reason i don't go completely nude to the nude beach is because i like to see my tan line
You're writing a paper with a camera rolling. 😜
What happens if you get a Bonner in the sauna?
What's wrong with unshaven pubic hair?
For years I though FKK were the brothels. Now I learnt the initials mean "naturism". LOL! Naturism is fine for those who do it but it is not my thing. However I do go naked in the sauna.... precisely when I visit a FKK, LOL! Excellent clubs, excellent services, and up to recently quite decent prices as well, however post-Covid prices started hiking.
„FKK clubs or „Sauna clubs“ have nothing to do with FKK or sauna culture. It‘s simply a misuse of the words.
@@gerdweist5961 I understood that. As usual people try to use "neutral terms" to describe prostitution. Myself, as a client, I am using always the real deal terms.