Vince Russo RAGES at the Wyatt Sicks!
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The Wyatt Sicks are one of the more interesting WWE acts in a very long time. But did they ruin their mystique already by taking a picture with a fan? In this edition of The Wrestling Outlaws, Dr. Chris Featherstone chats with former WWE Head Writer Vince Russo and NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion EC3. Vince Russo is a big proponent of kayfabe and goes so far as to say that the members of The Wyatt Sicks are not professionals. Do you agree with his assessment? Sound off in the comments.
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This is the same guy that went on tv and talked about Hulk Hogan’s creative control.
So, Vince Russo, the guy who killed kayfabe (remember Buff “doing the job”) as Nitro was live, complains about the Sicks taking a photo away from the ring. There were plenty of photos of Undertaker, Sting, and Kane out of character back in the day, yet somehow once the show was on they were their characters and we believed. We all knew Peter Mayhew was in the Wookie suit, but when Star Wars is on, we see Chewbacca, not an actor. That’s suspension of disbelief, something Vince Russo knows nothing about.
Oh my God the Wyatt Sicks are real people I can’t believe it
Seriously… these guys will never be happy no matter what. All they do is complain about everything… meanwhile WWE is selling out literally everywhere they go
Yeah, who cares? I didn’t think Reha and Buddy’s wedding pic hurt anything either.
@@BabyDoIIxFan boy who will never criticize and settle for mediocre in WWE
@@BabyDoIIx Because their ticket prices are too low, they could make way more money if a few seats were empty.
It isn't like they were photographed going about their business . It's that they posed for the picture out of character . In the past it a wrestler saw a fan he would go into character or ignore you. Actors and celebrities maintain a public persona they even ask their agents who they should date . Even vloggers go into their schtick when they see a fan .
Wait....Vince Russo is lecturing someone on professionalism? The guy who has on multiple occasions admitted that he came up with the Brawl for All for no other reason than he didn't like JBL. The guy who put the WCW title on himself, and topped it by putting the WCW title on David Arquette and topped all of that by going into business for himself on a live PPV. This man booked some of the most unprofessional shit in wrestling history.
Absolutely agreed but David Arquette is a massive wrestling fan and wrestles his ass off every time he's in the ring. Without that title win, he may not be a seriously dedicated wrestler today.
Brock Lesnar is the only person to this day. To still protect his character. Undertaker gave that up. So I would say Brock is the only one.
Brock Lesnar and Goldberg were the same character basically. The only difference is Brock was bigger and even more psychically impressive than Goldberg. Neither could talk or had much of a personality. I guess Brock was better in the ring but not like that matters when youre doing those types of characters who are just there to be intimidating and wreck people.
Undertaker has had multiple versions of his character from the dead man to the not goofy realistic character the american badass and big evil so it does not hurt his character overall. Brock Lesnar is brock lesnar in wwe he is who he is in real life.
What about Steve Blackman
I don’t think Brock is really a character though, he’s just a badass for real, he’s really that guy.
Brock has done cameos and has been out of character.🤣undertaker held his gimmick down 30 years without saying anything he deserves too speak on his career if he wants too.
Could you imagine back in the day if an epic heel like Tully Blanchard would have taken a picture with Magnum with all smiles? would have killed the territory.
Lol Kayfabe is dead in the modern tech world. Isnt this podcast killing KAYFABE ????
They just wanna complain about everything like always
Vince is old. He should know better. It’s 2024.
Exactly! These mfs tell storylines months in advance but are mad that a new faction took pictures with a fan. This isn't the 80s or 90s. They have kids and family. They're supposed to keep their masks on the entire time. This is the same dude who begs Tony Khan for a job every week but claims to hate the business.
@@BabyDoIIxYou're commenting on another post? Let me guess you're in the business???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@RelTheKing
That is the exact reason why majority of casuals have no reason to even watch a " fake" sport
I always liked Russo but now he is just so bitter. I get it to an extent because he has been buried very unfairly by so many people for so long but now he just hates everything. Nothing is ever good. Its really sad he is so bitter
Unfairly?! He’s an idiot! He’s part of the reason WCW went under, Dixie listened to him in TNA and you see what those two did to absolutely ruin TNA. He stooged himself to spike, and got TNA thrown off spike. Dude is a moron, and shouldn’t be anywhere near wrestling.
Weird to see Vince Russo having this attitude about Kayfabe despite every effort to turn Wrestling into Jerry Springer storylines that broke Kayfabe by their mere inclusion.
🤣 I happen to agree on this instance I wish kayfabe was respected a bit more, not everyone has to be Taker level about it but some effort should be there but Russo helped Ruin two different Wrestling Companies with Bischoff & Hogan so.....
Russo every couple months, will jump on random bandwagons to try and gain good faith with wrestling fans. He knows no company in 2024 is going hire of all people Vince Russo, so this is what gets does..he’s still an idiot.
@@elite_artist351 Yeah I agree, definitely seems like he's trying to solidify some sort of legacy by garnering good faith with "takes" that some people might like. Like sometimes having a wacky story element is fine but this guy had no respect for the in ring aspect of the sport.
People keep saying "but its hard to keep kayfabe now" and I'm like so its hard to go to the drive thru?
Dude it’s 2024. Everyone has social and a phone. Nice try
@@br00talitydawg then when you go to the drive thru then tell them not to take a picture and if they are a true fan they wouldn't and if they refuse and try to do it anyway then drive off OR order thru door dash and celebrate at the house....see you simplet@n it's not hard...nice try
@@jinkisaragii3169 Tf are you saying
@@br00talitydawg -_- what I am saying is just because people have social media and a phone doesn't mean you can't keep kayfabe alive I just gave you some easy examples I thought of in 2 minutes before I responded to you in my second comment on how to do it it's not that hard but if the fanbase is as slmple as you are then no wonder the talent doesn't want to put forth that extra effort. "duuurrrrrr Tf ArE YoU SaYiNg" 0_o smfh
@@jinkisaragii3169 dude, you can't control what people do and don't do with their phones. good lord. re-read what you just wrote.
VinnyRu you wrote a storyline where Goldberg wouldn't follow the script bro!
The whataburger talk is making me hungry. We don't have them here in Canada.
I said this in another post.... Can you imagine if right after what the New Bloodline did to Paul Heyman they did the exact same thing with fans? How STUPID would that have been? The Wyatt Sicks is already going downhill since destroying the locker room 2 weeks ago, now this?
Bloodline are heels
@zacharybibeau276 It doesn't really matter since I'm referring to the gimmicks. I don't think you're seeing my point about this. Wyatt Sicks are branding themselves as a horror style faction so they need to protect their characters in the public eye.
They'd be at waffle house. It's Solo's favorite restaurant after all. And why would that be bad? Acting like Tama Tonga never threw a fan appreciation block party or anything...
@@billylindsey3678if you’ve ever been a true WWE fan you’d know how delusional you have to be . I understand how it feels so I don’t argue with em , you’re 100% right though
Vince needs to get his ass a burger or two, WTH?
Can you imagine Russo calling out people for killing kayfabe in 2024? 😂
I’m sorry but does Daniel Craig have to take pics with fans as James Bond? Do people that play Jason, or Michael Myers have to stay in character?? Give me a break. You’re still living in the past without social media, and widespread internet. It’s not feasible now days and calling them unprofessional for living their lives is ridiculous
Wrestling relies on blurring the lines between fiction and reality... If it's just another TV show, it sucks (and wrestling is just bad TV shows these days)
Why does this matter. Wwe has gone out of there way for 40 years to emphasize that it's just entertainment and fake. What does it matter if the wrestlers live their gimmick when the company will make a behind the scenes documentary about how it's all just another tv show.
And the wwe has that documentary of behind the scenes of wrestlemania up on RUclips rn.
Well said. These guys are out of touch.
I was 15 when kiss took off their makeup they still rock tho I had kiss trading cards as a kid shows the generation gap
I don't know what a "water burger" is, is that the only beverage they serve at this joint? The Brooklyn accent is strong in this one.
Finn & Liv are playing them.
Meanwhile Vince is breaking kayfabe by having a podcast and talking about wrestling and how the secrets of the business work 😂
I understand the delusion it takes to be WWE fans because I grew up as one , but one thing I hate is comparing an actor on a tv show or movie with people who portray professional athletes in combat sports . They’re not the same . With this storyline , taking that pic was a terrible move . Honestly , letting it get out who all the members were (although in these times it’s inevitable) but they’re exactly right about this Wyatt angle .
Paul Heyman was in KISS?!
🤣🤣
They should just start asking their fans who want a picture with them to pose as if they were just obliterated by them. They could still smile and look happy but it would be kinda ominous because the fan is laid out.
People were hating on the rock so hard recently, but he did kayfabe incredibly leading up to wrestlemania 40. It was exciting. I couldn't tell if it was real or not.
They are such marks for themselves man
And they wonder why wrestling has such low ratings compared to years prior. No one believes in some degree of kayfabe or mystery. Back then fans were scared to approach the heels
They literally break records everywhere they go. These guys do nothing but complain
@@BabyDoIIxAnd you're commenting on their video... 🤷🏿♂️
Nothing gets ratings in the digital age.
And Russo was a big part of murdering Kayfabe.
It’s stupid as fuck to think a wrestling storyline on TV is more important than someone’s real life marriage. Would an actor from a marvel movie not be able to show their wedding photos?
Well it is a more old school take on the company. It is kind of hard to go back to that though it would definitely help.
I love it and love where its going, respect dont come easy these days but majority of fans and ex wrestlers love it even Steven Richards
Wyatt 6 does lose anything from this because they have nothing
Lol they bring more views than this shitshow!!
Wyatt 6 sick best thing happened in WWE
Not really tbh
@@DaltonRiley25 bro I don't know what time zone your in its the best thing happening in the WWE Wyatt 6 sick bloodline story PURE GOLD I love it you must be a fan of the other company
This aint the 80s-90s everybody knows who they are irl. You cant expect them not to be humans outside of work.
Dont insult our intelligence as a fan, we know good and damn well its kayfab and its scripted. We know who these people are. So if they go out to enjoy their real life, then who are we to judge? I applaud them for interacting with fans.
But yea it could have been handle with just a autograph like Vince said and that part he’s right a wrestling fan would understand
Why does this so-called doctor has to talk more than the people that WERE IN THE BUSINESS!!!!! Stop the nonsense.
This is why wrestling as a whole is not that popular anymore. Lack of kayfabe killed the business.
Wrestling to me atleast was at its best when I was 13 and thinking its all real .
It’s not that it was just actually better, it’s nostalgia.
Other than TV ratings (which are largely irrelevant in a streaming era) business is booming. Breaking records for gates, doing stadium shows and multi-night shows for big PLE’s. Wrestlers are earning more than ever. Match quality is up, storytelling is subjective, but the Bloodline arc has been one of the most successful, creatively and financially, of all time.
@@LarryB-ms1ci
Amongst marks and smarks. Wrestling has not even made a splash mainstream wise.
@@Hunkzilla I don’t know what you mean by “mainstream” is. It is mentioned regularly on ESPN, and various podcasts. It’s on FOX, it is going to be on Netflix, even NXT will be on CW. So that’s two (or maybe 1.5) network shows and the most successful streaming company.
The monoculture is basically dead. People know some NBA players, and some NFL players. But the most successful TV shows barely ever crack 8 digit viewership. When Wrestling was getting 7 or 8 million viewers Friends was averaging 25 million.
NBC was the most watched network in 2023 and averaged 4.5 million viewers.
So what would you say is “Mainstream Success”?
First of all, wrestling isn't popular? Attendance to live events is way up. Merchandise sales are bigger than they have ever been. They just did 3 consecutive PPV/PLE overseas, and they sold them out. They're selling out football stadiums for secondary PPV/PLE. More people attended the 2 nights of wrestlemania 40 than the last 2 Superbowls. Ratings wise, wrestling has consistently higher ratings than Major League Baseball and the NBA. Going forward, the big 4 shows (Rumble, Mania, Summerslam and Survivor Series) are all going to be 2 night events held in big stadiums. The stock share value has gone way, way up. I know, I own stock. WWE made $1.7 billion in profits in 2023. Almost 30% higher than 2022. To put things in perspective. When Vince McMahon bought WWF from his father and the other shareholders in 1982, he bought it for $1 million. When Vince McMahon bought WCW in 2001, he paid $6 million. When Vince McMahon sold WWE to TKO in 2023, he sold it for $8.5 BILLION.
Internationally, the WWE network is one of the top streaming apps, and here in America, the number of paid subscriptions to Peacock more than doubled when the WWE Network was moved to Peacock. Not to mention the fact that Netflix just handed Triple H a $5 billion check to move Raw to Netflix, and USA Network just handed Triple H a $1.5 billion check to move Smackdown to their network. 2 networks just combined to spend almost $7 billion dollars to get 4 hours of wrestling content per week on their networks. And wrestling isn't popular? You don't get into a bidding war with billions up for grabs to get a product to come to your network if that product isn't ridiculously popular. Using every metric used to determine the popularity of a product, WWE has not seen this level of popularity since the early 80s when wrestling went mainstream. Five of the top 10 highest rated shows on cable TV are wrestling(Raw, NXT, Impact, Dynamite and Collision), and the only sports programming on the Fox Network with higher ratings than Smackdown is the NFL.
As for kayfabe, kayfabe died when wrestling got into Hollywood, and cell phones and the internet were invented. The main event for SummerSlam 1989, the 2nd biggest wrestling show of the year, was a rematch between Hulk Hogan and the character he fought in the movie he had just made.
And it's wild that Vince Russo would complain about kayfabe not being respected when Vince Russo literally became rich and famous by booking some of the most kayfabe killing train wrecks ever.
Facts
Its pretty quiet on taw i mean raw the beast might heare
They mad fun of tk for doin it
They should have at least mean mugged in the picture. Telling the kid why, sending him 8 x 10s and buying his meal is a great way to handle it too. We know what we know but for this gimmick, the people doing it should lay low.
Facts
Do you know what's a bigger joke and not professional Vince Russo as a champion
Get over it
@@rodneykendall2022you know it’s true. Russo is the biggest joke in professional wrestling, and he’s an idiot. There’s a reason no company wants to do business with him not even AEW…and they’ll work with just about anyone who was in the industry!
I mean it's 2024. Everyone knows what's what.
All you can say is it's just a different time
They should make it a storyline this is us before 😂
Yall had the Oddities over there. Stahp.
Hey guys just an fyi liv is dating bo dallas and has been for a while
Howdy shoulda left Bray’s boots in the ring and that should been the end of uncle howdy, bro!
wyatt sicks dead on arrival
I never loved kiss music but thay put on a great concert
Russo is correct exposing the business with the Wyatt
To be fair, you guys will never be happy no matter what WWE does, all you do is complain about everything… you roll your eyes at wanting to have good matches like wtf!? Lol and you honestly think people don’t know it’s just a gimmick? The UNDERTAKER has a podcast, kayfabe is long long dead.
You really think the fans will be upset? Lol… no. Stop pretending you could do so much better. Vince booked himself to be HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION… what would he say if Adam Pearce did that today? You thought a lot of HORRIBLY STUPID things were good TV.
Bottom line: you guys won’t ever be pleased. You swear the Attitude era was so real, it had some of the worst tv/gimmicks of all time…
The Undertaker is going to be upset. When you have an overtop gimmick like the Undertaker, Wyatt 6, Kane, you have to stay in character everywhere you go. Watch Undertaker interviews. You can't do this.
Trying to get 1 last buck out of... 😂😂😂❤
No freaking wonder Vince Russo no longer works for WWE or any wrestling promotion
This Wyatt Sicks is an awesome, awesome story. Taylor is killing it. The production team is killing it. Don't be jelly.....Vince.
@@Wrastleman903 "Taylor" wow you know uncle Howdy's real name. You're such a smart mark! Hahaha Vince loves the TV that the last 2 weeks raw produced with the bo Dallas promo.
He is saying how they're not conscious of keeping KAYFABE in public. You wouldn't catch wrestlers so openly taking photos in public. Picture Kane in 1997 taking of his mask and exposing his identity. That would make the character less believable because he was supposed to be a "burned victim"
Is vince still alive ?it would be nice the corporate beasty on( thats corporate raw !).a calm berofore the storm the corporate giant crushed the feeble resistance
Why does anyone take this guy seriously?
He dont care if he rubs people the wrong way. He understands television, right? Worked with rock, Austin, Shawn Michaels at their peak
@@diluted8yeah, and is one of the reason WCW went under, then there was TNA that was questionable when he was around. He stooged to Spike that he was still working for TNA after they asked Dixie to get rid of him. He’s a moron, and literally no one wants to work with him?
Who cares bro !! Kayfabe has been over for years. Were not in the 70s or 80s anymore. 👋
Lol ec3 shooting his shot at liv 😂😂
EC3 does not look normal…
Vince Whataburger
Kayfabe is dead and HAS BEEN dead for quite some time, Vince! 🙄🤦🏻♂️🤣
And when Gen x Gen z and millennials are crying about the Wyatt sicks are off television..this is the reason why!
Ec3. Facial expressions 🤣👋
Wyatt six angle is now doa because of that photo. Darth Vader never took his helmet off in public. It's an angle for kids, and now they know their isnt a santa claus. Only way to fix it, is they all need to come out on WWE with the masks off, permanently.
As usual Russo is out of touch
I can't believe EC3 lowers himself to associate himself with such scum of the wrestling industry
I agree with Vince
How old are you? 60?
@@br00talitydawg 26 hbu
@@francescaiosefo40 29. It’s 2024. Kayfabe is dead, social media and phones exist. Get with the times
You're almost 30 😂
Tryin to tell me to get with the times 🤣
@@francescaiosefo40 yes, you’re 26. You should get with the times since you’re younger by 3 years … makes sense?
I think it's corny. Rip bray but I thought the feined was a corny gimmick. To much supernatural bs to it. Kane and taker went that route but they actually made it interesting and didn't go to far with it. All this crap of people flying around possessed and be thrown around with telepathy powers is laughable. The alexa bliss gimmick was cringe.
I thought Iiv was with Bo Dallas unless he cut her off because she's f****** annoying
They just broke up
All I see is the wyatt sicks with Rey Mysterio😂
Make them the WWE cheaters bring there spouses into the angle
Everyone knows wrestling is sports entertainment you can thank Vince McMahon for that the days of Kayfabe is long gone 😂
Right. They act like Tough Enough didn't exist.
@@RelTheKing
That is why wrestling will remain a niche.
Bro! Everyone knew who was in the group before they even debuted bro bro! Bro imagine going to a job interview and all you know how to say is bro! Vince, just because this gimmick nor anything Bray ever did came from your own mind, doesn’t mean you got to shit all over it! Hell the views they gets ate hell of a lot more than what you will ever get!
😂😂
Vince Russo was part of what made the attitude era. People can hate all they want on him. And he's right about the Wyatt sicks . They messed up royalty doing what they did. They killed mystique of the group.
Made the attitude era, yet no one wants to work with him..interesting how that works.
Facts
I don’t know if it’s that big of a deal. It’s 2024 we all know it’s a work. The people are not the characters they portray on tv and we still tune in every week and suspend the belief.
Wrestling is so trash now. #HasntBeenGoodSince03
And 03 raw was ass
Y’all are on crack wrestlings great it’s a show for storylines you marks 🤣 always been that way
@@darshvader4096wrestling lost over 80% of its audience
@@rodneykendall2022 no it didn’t man hahahah boomers are hilarious the crowds are bigger and better specifically for the past 3 years
@@rodneykendall2022 Exactly. I’m not even wasting time on people who accept mediocrity at best smh. #ItsOkToDemandBetter #Clowns
They are actors that is it no different than Tom cruise taking pics after a great movie not that I’m Tom cruise fan just an example! They are actors that is it!!! This day and age can’t be the way it was in the 80s and on just how it is but at the end if the day they are actors playing a character!
Yes it is .
Awww Russo still thinks wrestling is real 🍼
Lol, anyone listening to Vince Russo of all people and thinking he’s right about anything in wrestling tells me all I need to know lol. For all of you bitching, and crying and moaning. People knew who the individuals in the group were already! The dirtsheets were literally spoiling in until the debut.
We obviously know, there aren’t some unidentifiable spooky people running around WWE who are completely unknown..as a camera watching them with zero fear..
Wyatt Sicks kill a number of wrestlers first night. Then expected to do wrestling moves when they actually get in ring lol.
Vince is just a whiney bitter old head now but he’s actually spot on here
Not really it’s 2024. It’s impossible to escape public eye. Grow up.
@@br00talitydawg shut your yap muppet it’s called a drive thru. Maybe they don’t have one of those under the rock you live. 😂
@@br00talitydawg It's the current year, man. 😆😆😆
@@RasslinRedbird no sht
I ♥️ agree with Vince Russo Wyatt 6 not only not Professional Wrestler it Worse Gimmick WWE History Thay Take Bray Wyatt Vision Character Turn it into Clown 🤡Show I have Stop Watching 👀 WWE and AEW Need Vince McMahon Back 😢Triple HHH Horrible Story Teller Vince Russo do Better Job than Hunter
More like wyatt sux
Yet more takes Corny & Russo agree on. Why don't they just get a room.
Rhea ruined the story with Liv and Dom buy constantly posting her personal life. Nobody cares. Do that on a private social media account
Who gives af what Vince Russo has to say? Bro should delete himself. 😂
The people that pays him to talk cares . The rock literally just paid for his take on a company from 25 years ago and you’re in a channel that pays him for this very conversation 😂😂😂
Zero logic
@@JMAC____ This your burned account Russo? Bro bro bro bro. 😂
You do. Otherwise you wouldn't have clicked on this video.
@@RasslinRedbird Another Russo glazer. 😂
@@JMAC____its still real to him dammit! Can't you tell by how hard he's htting his keyboard.
Have to agree with Vince Russo here. Protect your character as much as possible.
Can you imagine that!!!??? Russo calling someone unprofessional....🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 ....REALLY????
Imagine if you saw Kane without a mask back in the day just casually taking pics that he knew might get leaked to the media
But is he wrong ? I see you’re completely ignoring the topic
He’s right no matter how your feel about it . Zero logic
@JMAC____ then why is it OK for the wwe themselves to release a behind the scenes of wrestlemania 40 documentary on RUclips?
If the company is not going to honor kayfabe then why should the talent do it
@@osu3167imagine Brusier Brody taking pics with fans 💀💀
@@JMAC____you do realize, WWE openly shows behind the scenes of their shows etc. people know the shit is fake, and WWE is doing great money, attendance and viewership wise than they have in years. Bitch about this all you want, this won’t hurt them and most people couldn’t care less about the photo. Vince Russo and the people bitching about the photo, mean nothing when millions of others love the Wyatt Sicks and are tuning in and buying tickets etc. move on, no matter how much you dislike this it will gave zero negative effect.
Also, considering Russo’s history with fucking stuff up and showing how stupid he is I’d never hop on any bandwagon with him lol.
Vince Russo still thinks wrestling is real. Grow up.
Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true.
@@RasslinRedbird Vince Russo can’t get over that it’s 2024 and kayfabe is dead with the emergence of social media and phones. He’s delusional. So are you.
Russo literally has zero credibility or need to talk. Just as bad as cornette i swear. Keep your shit takes away from wrestling