New way to make Damascus steel?
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Cool, it's like a forge welded inlay!
This illustrates one of the things I love about the smithing community; we share our ideas! Since 3D printed/cellulose damascus patterns are now done by lots of smiths, this looks like an interesting variant; one could laser in a name, or corporate logo, or whatever and fill the impressions with 1090. Might work even better with the canoe canister technique.
Do not give up on this idea. Think of the applications as far as designing a layout of metals to increase a knife's durability. What I envision is a knife that starts with pure mild steel going into a large honeycomb pattern moving across to a smaller honeycomb pattern. The opposite side is reverse. A hard steel ( the blade edge side) going into a large honeycomb pattern and then across towards the mild steel side with smaller honeycomb. A Damascus billet designed to have a hard edge and absorb shocks and be flexible.
Maybe you could line up some sort of limited edition thing with ridge wallet, seems like something that style of patte would be good for.
Otherwise one of those longer plate bottle openers, could wack out a long line of those with the laser
Use two thick plates. One in 1095 and one in 15N20. Laser the 15n20 as you did, but etch the 1095 with a reverse image and press the designs together. Then you should be able to grind one away until you get to the welded pattern with little or no distortion. Its very easy with the fiber.
Very interesting idea! Have you tried it?
That’s what experimentation is about, Tim! Great job!
If you had some really thin metal, you could engrave your business card on it and used the bluing technique. That would be a killer business card.
The entire video I was thinking there must be an easier way of doing this.
And you came up with it in the end.
This is pretty similar to plug damascus essentially. Really cool way of doing things!
Dyckmascus forged inlay sounds about right.
It would take a lot longer, but if you started with thicker bar stock and flat ground both sides the laser etch would probably be the same depth all around, and you could get a deeper etch to start with to fit more powder, or what wody422 suggested and stamp the pattern. Or both, stamp, then use the laser to crisp it up if necessary. And I bet those two spots were just a bit of stainless that somehow welded to the stock that didn't get fully ground off.
The last one obviously look cleaner, but I prefer the first one. Hard to explain why
this is an insane cool idea! I can see this making some bad ass knives and such. Would love to see you or Alec Steele or Will Stelter make something out of this idea.
Nice work. I think there is room for both methods, depending on what you're after, or a client would want.
You could just fill the cavities with bronze. Polish it up and blue the steel.
I loved it really cool 👍 Greetings from Norway.
The "muddiness" of the 15N20 looks like it's because there is still a thin layer of 1090 powder on top because you can see a bright "halo" around the edge of each of the features which I suspect is the real 15n20 underneath.. Grind it a bit more and try the etch again..
Cool experiment
Nice process, maybe its also possible (and possibly faster) to stamp the pattern using a machined die and then aplly the rest of the process.
Awesome! The Damascus has a lot more authenticity to it but the laser version looks excellent and would probably be a better option for production. Id love to make a knife from your Damascus piece if you'd be interested in a collab?! It takes some work but you could get a black/mirror contrast to it with the right techniques. For a bold pattern like that the pre etch surface finish is important. If you took it to a full mirror, then you could etch, polish, etch polish until you've got mirror highs and matt lows, then coffee or orange juice etch to darken the matt areas. Super frustrating process if you're set with getting it perfect.
Maybe that was my problem! I never polished the 15n20 up enough. Thanks for that tip!
awesome!
Nice work. I like the bluing method for making fine, precise patterns. But to me, that’s sorta venturing into much less interesting territory. I would much prefer an authentic, less than perfect, forge welded pattern. Much more artistic and crafty, imho.
@shurap makes it look easy getting the box off in his videos. Could be RUclips magic or a the application of some science.
My man is a student of Shurap I see 😊
imagine lighter casings that you can make.
You certainly come up with some fascinating ideas! Would it be possible to laser cut all the way through the steel plate and fill the holes with the powder? That way you could have your damascus effect without the danger of grinding through the pattern if you were to make a knife or an axe blade.
I think so, It would just take a very long time! I thought that perhaps having a "core" of the 15n20 would perhaps keep things more stable through heat treat, but its all theoretical.
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i would like to see you learn how to do a proper hexagonal Damascus. I'm a little upset with the fact the title led me to think i would see that, when all i saw was an inlay at best. you look very talented and i hope you figure this project out, please be more transparent in the future
He explains in the video what he was going for, and that it’s not what he was hoping for..
Wow Tim that work out awesome mate ,