I have spent a lot of time with this, and I've actually got a few songs that I can play from beginning to end, playing (almost) all the intstruments by myself, and overall I'm really pumped about this technique. I'm playing all the midi instruments using my telecaster and the Guitarmidi2 plugin, which I really, really love. As a guitarist, this technique for looping is amazing. We don't have the free hands to use a push or similar clip launcher. A few notes for those just trying it for the first time. 1. I tried doing this with an old laptop with a hdd hard drive. I kept on getting hard drive overload signals from ableton and couldn't get clyphx to work right. Long story short, it didn't work. I bought a pretty fast new laptop and now it works flawlessly. I believe this is one technique that requires an ssd and a decent processor. 2. As Earle Monroe points out in his reply (shown around 13 minute mark), the workflow is great within the midi clip. You can time all of your actions to the bar count, and it's just a great way to navigate. Has anyone figured out a way to add a locator, or something like a locator within the clyphx midi clip, so that I can tag which parts are intro, verse, chorus, etc? Apparently the locators in arrangement are not available for use in the midi clip... 3. If you're trying to cover an existing song using this looping technique, spend the $80 and get an annual membership to ultimate-guitar.com. The pro tabs have accurate tabs for each instrument, and you can plug your clyphx drum rack actions into the midi clip according to the bar count in the tab. And not just for guitarists, they also have each song available in piano tablature. And again, props to Robbie. I have wanted to this shit for years.
Great tips. Have you by chance seen any tutorial videos that elaborate on using the guitar tab approach to help with the automation programming? I am in the early stages of trying to figure all of this out in Loopy Pro after jumping into the looping world just a week ago.
I first started with the cadillac of pedal loopers, the BOSS RC300. But it has it's limitations. I saw Rachel K Collier do some live looping with Ableton on youtube, and immediately sold the looper for an audio interface and got a copy of Live Lite. Messed around with using session view mapped to a foot controller... then moved on to using the IAC driver for midi automation... then saw you and like 3 other people on the entire internet using clyphx pro for looping... and here I am. As a guitar player, this clyphx pro model of looping using the M4L device, combined with with the MIDIGuitar2 plugin has my brain buzzing with excitement. This $40 software is so much more useful for me than a much more expensive push or launchpad. This is by far the most detailed and informative content I have found. I am shocked, SHOCKED!!!! that there are currently less than 500 views on this. I guess it's just too new of an idea. But huge thanks for this. I'm going to absolutely crush the local open mic when bars re-open. I really appreciate the hours you spent making this happen, because it would have taken me upwards of .. forever.
Thanks for the kind words! Was awesome to see you working out some ClyphX magic. Since Live 11 released, I've been mainly using that so I haven't touched ClyphX in a while since it isn't compatible yet it seems, how about you? For the videos, I've been making lots of performance videos on instagram @robbiesko, but have plans to make more educational vids as well for RUclips and elsewhere. Thanks for the encouragement!
Directed here from Isotonik Studios post on FB. I'm new to ClyphX Pro and already it's made my time in Ableton more effective. This tutorial has answered a number of things I'd been wondering about getting live looping going quickly. Thanks Robbie!!!
Brooo your vids are super helpful. I've been trying to recreate a ZenAudio-like workflow, but the timing mechanisms in Arrangement view don't really support it. Tried approaching it with MIDI loopback automation, and also the Python API. Kept ending up with a few milliseconds worth of gaps/offsets though, which is enough to jank up a performance (missing the first midi note of a clip, creating an audio pop from a slight gap, etc). Thought of a workaround using ClyphX, basically: draw the arrangement with dummy clips, and then use a script to generate a huge batch of ClyphX scripts to recreate the arrangement in Session view. I literally went through the entire same exact series of problems as your looping series over the course of a few hours lol, burned a bit of time troubleshooting before finding that you had already worked through some of the issues. Initially had started off with your "Hands Free" vid and a bunch from other channels to get a baseline of how to utilize ClyphX for this project. Then ran into the no-gap issue, tried like 100 script variations, then searched & found a vid about it and noticed it was you again, then was like allllright I should probably just watch all this dude's vids right now lol. Ended up getting it working, def much faster thanks to your vids & their comment discussions. I drafted the ClyphX scripts by hand for the prototype. Now that I know how to orchestrate it (lots of clip scripts + note rack scripts), the next step is to generate them programmatically with the arrangement data. Here's a demo of the prototype: ruclips.net/video/mAR_tZeZWYI/видео.html
Thank you so much for these videos! After reading through the ClyphX built in help lessons I was still pretty clueless about how to get this type of looping working. These videos were the ideal next step. Great work! 🙏
Thanks for the great video! Some of these actions (for example, SEL EMPTY) don't seem to be working on the note trigger rack. They work fine on x-clips. I'm on Live 12.1, and the latest Clyphx which supports Liver 12.1. Any ideas?
Thank you very much for the help! Very apreciated! You managed to optimize it for a better workflow, thanks!!! Your explanations are also very clear. Waiting for more :)
I was also interested on doing a rack with all the midi instruments and automate the chain selector with clyphx pro to save cpu, But im not sure if you can still record the clips as midi, or is only possible with audio, my objetive was to be able to use record quantization to use percussion in the same rack. Also do another one with an audio clip and automate the chain selector again to choose different presets (amps, plugins). With the same goal "save cpu". That would act like a monster rack that you can use for your whole show. And you would be able to keep adapting it to your future setlist.
Great video, thank you! I managed to achieve everything but the next clip thing. The command /sel empty doesn't work, it selects the clip on the same scene that is selected (I checked that the "Select on launch" voice is off in the preferences), so it keeps on playing the same clip. Any ideas?
Thanks for watching! I encourage anyone viewing this to help Marco with this question if you can, I'm currently running Ableton Live 11 on Windows which I haven't been able to get work with ClyphX Pro yet. Working on some new techniques that will utilize the Ableton Push 2. If anyone has Clyphx Pro working with Live 11 on Windows let us know thanks
@@RobbieSko Ehi Robbie, thank you for your reply. I did it by using the command srecfix after arming the tracks that I need. I've been using ClyphX Pro only for a few weeks and I must say that it's an incredible software, but there are some lacks that I find obvious. Btw, I'll keep on studying!
Hello, thanks for the whole contents. Nice footage and deep explanation. I am new in looping. I have been using ableton mainly in arrangement view for production but would like to jam with friends using ableton for looping (instru and midi). I have a push. Quite excited to see and learn how far i would get without clyphX, maybe push would be sufficient for me.
Thanks for watching! You can do LOTS with Push, recently picked one up myself as well! The session record loop feature is a great thing to do that you can now do with Push, won't need ClyphX for that. You have more control with ClyphX, but it also requires more setup than the Push does. Enjoy!
@@RobbieSko Thank YOU ! Hours of testing saved thanks to you. Today I built a huge live set with a couple of scences based on your video - Verse (1-2-3), Chorus, Bridge (1-2-3..4!) - Jazz D'n'B style: so much fun... and (almost) no overlap between instruments as they record one after the other, even on downbeats. Depending on the tempo, I may check the 1/64 or 1/32+ or whatever resolution could fit best. Thanks a million Robbie and keep it going! Cheers, Ben
Is there a way to use a STOPALL command in a trigger rack, but the clip on the trigger rack doesnt stop so it can continue executing commands? Is there a work around for this? Great videos Robbie
Ahh good question. Need to be careful with STOPALL, because you could end up stopping everything including the trigger rack. One workaround is to have the instruments you're working with as grouped tracks, and instead of using stopall you could do 1/STOP or X/STOP where X is the number of the grouped tracks with your instruments. Let me know if that works for you!
Awesome tutorial. Can you give me a glue where I find the Note Trigger Rack in Ableton? I have Max 4 life but I don't find it... Would be great help. Thanks.
You’re looking for the “Triggering Actions Via Notes in a Clip” ClyphX Pro Lesson. After I found it I saved it into my user library so I could find it easily..and you can save different versions of it with different commands. The manual describes how to find the ClyphX pro lessons: In addition to this user manual, Live Lessons including example Sets are also provided. After installing ClyphX Pro, you can access the Lessons using the following steps: 1. Show Help View by selecting Help View from Live's Help menu. 2. Click the home button (rightmost button at the top of Help View) to return to the front page of Help View. 3. Scroll down to the bottom of Help View and click the Show all built-in lessons link to show the Table of Contents. 4. Scroll down to the bottom of the Table of Contents and you'll find the ClyphX Pro Lessons.
Hi in fact it's not the help documentation but the help function in live ( the right side of live application). When you activate help in the main menu , you can ask for clyphx and then get information around trigger rack. Tell me if you find?
@@jean-michelprou3775 I don't even know how to "activate help in the main menu". I am sorry, I tried to go in the help nav bar and type clyphx but nothing showed up.
Helpful vid - but I can't get it to work! With 1/Arm On, Metro On, and 1/SEL EMPTY right on the beat, and 1/PLAY SEL a little bit after, the behavior I get is that the metronome starts, track is briefly selected but not armed, and then almost immediately unselected. Can't figure out what I've done wrong - maybe something w/ entering the names into the trigger rack?
I have spent a lot of time with this, and I've actually got a few songs that I can play from beginning to end, playing (almost) all the intstruments by myself, and overall I'm really pumped about this technique. I'm playing all the midi instruments using my telecaster and the Guitarmidi2 plugin, which I really, really love. As a guitarist, this technique for looping is amazing. We don't have the free hands to use a push or similar clip launcher.
A few notes for those just trying it for the first time.
1. I tried doing this with an old laptop with a hdd hard drive. I kept on getting hard drive overload signals from ableton and couldn't get clyphx to work right. Long story short, it didn't work. I bought a pretty fast new laptop and now it works flawlessly. I believe this is one technique that requires an ssd and a decent processor.
2. As Earle Monroe points out in his reply (shown around 13 minute mark), the workflow is great within the midi clip. You can time all of your actions to the bar count, and it's just a great way to navigate. Has anyone figured out a way to add a locator, or something like a locator within the clyphx midi clip, so that I can tag which parts are intro, verse, chorus, etc? Apparently the locators in arrangement are not available for use in the midi clip...
3. If you're trying to cover an existing song using this looping technique, spend the $80 and get an annual membership to ultimate-guitar.com. The pro tabs have accurate tabs for each instrument, and you can plug your clyphx drum rack actions into the midi clip according to the bar count in the tab. And not just for guitarists, they also have each song available in piano tablature.
And again, props to Robbie. I have wanted to this shit for years.
Thanks the kind comments! X-Locators are for sure a thing as well even though I’ve mainly used X-Clips and X-Scenes.
Great tips. Have you by chance seen any tutorial videos that elaborate on using the guitar tab approach to help with the automation programming? I am in the early stages of trying to figure all of this out in Loopy Pro after jumping into the looping world just a week ago.
I first started with the cadillac of pedal loopers, the BOSS RC300. But it has it's limitations. I saw Rachel K Collier do some live looping with Ableton on youtube, and immediately sold the looper for an audio interface and got a copy of Live Lite. Messed around with using session view mapped to a foot controller... then moved on to using the IAC driver for midi automation... then saw you and like 3 other people on the entire internet using clyphx pro for looping... and here I am. As a guitar player, this clyphx pro model of looping using the M4L device, combined with with the MIDIGuitar2 plugin has my brain buzzing with excitement. This $40 software is so much more useful for me than a much more expensive push or launchpad. This is by far the most detailed and informative content I have found. I am shocked, SHOCKED!!!! that there are currently less than 500 views on this. I guess it's just too new of an idea. But huge thanks for this. I'm going to absolutely crush the local open mic when bars re-open. I really appreciate the hours you spent making this happen, because it would have taken me upwards of .. forever.
Just wound up here from a reddit post and saw you mentioned me in your video. Thanks bro! 🙌
Love your videos. Keep em up!
Thanks for the kind words! Was awesome to see you working out some ClyphX magic. Since Live 11 released, I've been mainly using that so I haven't touched ClyphX in a while since it isn't compatible yet it seems, how about you?
For the videos, I've been making lots of performance videos on instagram @robbiesko, but have plans to make more educational vids as well for RUclips and elsewhere. Thanks for the encouragement!
Directed here from Isotonik Studios post on FB. I'm new to ClyphX Pro and already it's made my time in Ableton more effective. This tutorial has answered a number of things I'd been wondering about getting live looping going quickly. Thanks Robbie!!!
Happy to help man! 👍🏼
Brooo your vids are super helpful. I've been trying to recreate a ZenAudio-like workflow, but the timing mechanisms in Arrangement view don't really support it. Tried approaching it with MIDI loopback automation, and also the Python API. Kept ending up with a few milliseconds worth of gaps/offsets though, which is enough to jank up a performance (missing the first midi note of a clip, creating an audio pop from a slight gap, etc).
Thought of a workaround using ClyphX, basically: draw the arrangement with dummy clips, and then use a script to generate a huge batch of ClyphX scripts to recreate the arrangement in Session view. I literally went through the entire same exact series of problems as your looping series over the course of a few hours lol, burned a bit of time troubleshooting before finding that you had already worked through some of the issues. Initially had started off with your "Hands Free" vid and a bunch from other channels to get a baseline of how to utilize ClyphX for this project. Then ran into the no-gap issue, tried like 100 script variations, then searched & found a vid about it and noticed it was you again, then was like allllright I should probably just watch all this dude's vids right now lol.
Ended up getting it working, def much faster thanks to your vids & their comment discussions. I drafted the ClyphX scripts by hand for the prototype. Now that I know how to orchestrate it (lots of clip scripts + note rack scripts), the next step is to generate them programmatically with the arrangement data. Here's a demo of the prototype: ruclips.net/video/mAR_tZeZWYI/видео.html
Thank you so much for these videos! After reading through the ClyphX built in help lessons I was still pretty clueless about how to get this type of looping working. These videos were the ideal next step. Great work! 🙏
So glad the videos helped! Thanks for watching!
Wooooooooow, all my day I was trying to achieve it. Thank you very much for this tutorial!!! I appreciate it a lot!
Glad it helped!! Thanks for watching :)
Thanks for the great video! Some of these actions (for example, SEL EMPTY) don't seem to be working on the note trigger rack. They work fine on x-clips. I'm on Live 12.1, and the latest Clyphx which supports Liver 12.1. Any ideas?
Thanks for watching! I haven’t gotten ClyphX pro to work with Live 12 yet so you’re ahead of me in that regard!
Hi Robbie, great video! very clear explained and useful!
Thanks so much, glad you liked it!
Thank you very much for the help! Very apreciated! You managed to optimize it for a better workflow, thanks!!!
Your explanations are also very clear. Waiting for more :)
Happy to help! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I was also interested on doing a rack with all the midi instruments and automate the chain selector with clyphx pro to save cpu, But im not sure if you can still record the clips as midi, or is only possible with audio, my objetive was to be able to use record quantization to use percussion in the same rack.
Also do another one with an audio clip and automate the chain selector again to choose different presets (amps, plugins). With the same goal "save cpu".
That would act like a monster rack that you can use for your whole show. And you would be able to keep adapting it to your future setlist.
Great video, thank you!
I managed to achieve everything but the next clip thing.
The command /sel empty doesn't work, it selects the clip on the same scene that is selected (I checked that the "Select on launch" voice is off in the preferences), so it keeps on playing the same clip.
Any ideas?
Thanks for watching! I encourage anyone viewing this to help Marco with this question if you can, I'm currently running Ableton Live 11 on Windows which I haven't been able to get work with ClyphX Pro yet. Working on some new techniques that will utilize the Ableton Push 2. If anyone has Clyphx Pro working with Live 11 on Windows let us know thanks
@@RobbieSko Ehi Robbie, thank you for your reply.
I did it by using the command srecfix after arming the tracks that I need.
I've been using ClyphX Pro only for a few weeks and I must say that it's an incredible software, but there are some lacks that I find obvious. Btw, I'll keep on studying!
Hello, thanks for the whole contents. Nice footage and deep explanation.
I am new in looping. I have been using ableton mainly in arrangement view for production but would like to jam with friends using ableton for looping (instru and midi). I have a push. Quite excited to see and learn how far i would get without clyphX, maybe push would be sufficient for me.
Thanks for watching! You can do LOTS with Push, recently picked one up myself as well! The session record loop feature is a great thing to do that you can now do with Push, won't need ClyphX for that. You have more control with ClyphX, but it also requires more setup than the Push does. Enjoy!
Brilliant! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks so much!
@@RobbieSko Thank YOU ! Hours of testing saved thanks to you.
Today I built a huge live set with a couple of scences based on your video - Verse (1-2-3), Chorus, Bridge (1-2-3..4!) - Jazz D'n'B style: so much fun... and (almost) no overlap between instruments as they record one after the other, even on downbeats.
Depending on the tempo, I may check the 1/64 or 1/32+ or whatever resolution could fit best.
Thanks a million Robbie and keep it going! Cheers, Ben
Good job bro, very helpful & thanks
Tulasi Dharan Appreciate that! Glad it helped 👍🏼
Is there a way to use a STOPALL command in a trigger rack, but the clip on the trigger rack doesnt stop so it can continue executing commands? Is there a work around for this? Great videos Robbie
Ahh good question. Need to be careful with STOPALL, because you could end up stopping everything including the trigger rack. One workaround is to have the instruments you're working with as grouped tracks, and instead of using stopall you could do 1/STOP or X/STOP where X is the number of the grouped tracks with your instruments. Let me know if that works for you!
@@RobbieSko Grouping tracks sounds like a good workaround. It actually gives me a bunch of ideas I didnt think of before. Thanks!
Awesome tutorial. Can you give me a glue where I find the Note Trigger Rack in Ableton? I have Max 4 life but I don't find it... Would be great help. Thanks.
You’re looking for the “Triggering Actions Via Notes in a Clip” ClyphX Pro Lesson. After I found it I saved it into my user library so I could find it easily..and you can save different versions of it with different commands.
The manual describes how to find the ClyphX pro lessons:
In addition to this user manual, Live Lessons including example Sets are also provided. After installing ClyphX Pro, you can access the Lessons using the following steps:
1. Show Help View by selecting Help View from Live's Help menu.
2. Click the home button (rightmost button at the top of Help View) to return to the front page of
Help View.
3. Scroll down to the bottom of Help View and click the Show all built-in lessons link to show the
Table of Contents.
4. Scroll down to the bottom of the Table of Contents and you'll find the ClyphX Pro Lessons.
Refer back to my description to help you put everything together. Keep us posted if you get it workin alright!
hi there, is there anyone to explain how to install not trigger rack. I have clyphx pro but don't where note trigger rack is. thanks for a help.
Hey you can find it within the help documentation of ClyphX pro, like the live lessons on the right side
thanks a lot, it works . so good!!! @@RobbieSko
@@jean-michelprou3775 did you find it ? I don't see what the help documentation means... If you can help me :)
Hi in fact it's not the help documentation but the help function in live ( the right side of live application). When you activate help in the main menu , you can ask for clyphx and then get information around trigger rack. Tell me if you find?
@@jean-michelprou3775 I don't even know how to "activate help in the main menu". I am sorry, I tried to go in the help nav bar and type clyphx but nothing showed up.
That’s very nice
is the device included with with clyphX pro or do I need to purchase the addons?
Included! You can find it in the included lessons with ClyphX Pro.
Helpful vid - but I can't get it to work! With 1/Arm On, Metro On, and 1/SEL EMPTY right on the beat, and 1/PLAY SEL a little bit after, the behavior I get is that the metronome starts, track is briefly selected but not armed, and then almost immediately unselected. Can't figure out what I've done wrong - maybe something w/ entering the names into the trigger rack?
Daniel Sonenberg definitely triple check how you’re naming the drum rack!
Daniel Sonenberg if need be try staggering so it’s first armed, then sel empty.
Is Audio-Overdub-Looping possible with Clyphx? (is there a video for that?)
Oo maybe with the ableton looper plus clyphx you mean? Yes that should be possible
Liked & sub.. Tnx Rob :)
Thank you! This is an awesome tool.
Great, Robbie! I sent you a message via Instagram...Thanks in advance!
Awesome, thank you!!
You seem cute
Thanks for watching!