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I consider this movie best SF ACTION COMEDY ever made its my 10/10 Every year i drop some lsd or shrroms on 4th july weekend and check if Will still blows up mothership. Crazy Son of a bitch makes it EVERY TIME lol
Quick story: I work in a nursing home and there's a resident there that absolutely loves film of all ages and genres. As such, he handles and plans all of our in house theater's screenings. He chose Independence Day to screen yesterday, instead of the usual older material, or toned down newer films, and not one resident didn't think it was awesome as can be and fun as hell. First time I've ever heard our theater's bass booming like an IMAX. It was heartening to say the least. Anyway, that's all I've got for today... I'll go away now.
Fun Fact: Independence Day had a “diverse” cast and touched on a lot of social inequality issues. But you would’ve never noticed unless I told you, which is the way it should be.
Spot on, if in a pub quiz the question asked was 'name an American film where the two hero's are a black man and a jew? I just wouldn't think of ID4, cos it just doesn't matter. Will Smith has gotta Will Smith & Geff Goldblum gotta Geff Goldblum, and the world's a better place got it.
@won doyouwant Exactly. I immediately noticed those details even when I was younger but the movie never got annoying with preaching and the kind of stuff that you see today.
When Will Smith punched that alien and said "Welcome to Earth!", my theater audience went ape shit. Everyone was cheering, dudes were standing up and hollering. This movie was such a fun ride.
Yeah. I also loved how there were smart women, black men, Jews, drunks etc etc but you never felt there was any social engineering agenda to this movie - just pure spectacle and fun
@@jamesfowler415 just competent people doing their work no identity politics in sight, the good times! if this movie is made now we know how it will look, a shitfest!
@@jamesfowler415 That's because the movie focused on their characters rather than their identity or skin color. Will Smith was black but his story revolved solely around his military career clashing with his personal life. Jeff Goldblum was a Jew but his story revolved around finally realizing his potential and taking a stand, rather than just being a cable technician. Vivica A. Fox portrayed a strong-willed woman with common sense, but she never had to put down another character to assert herself. Randy Quaid seems like a lowly drunk at the start of the movie, but the ongoing events make you realize that maybe he's NOT crazy when he claims aliens abducted him. Perhaps they broke him, which is why he drinks. Then when he gets a chance to sacrifice himself to save humanity, it shows that he's still a moral person at heart. If they remade this movie today they would focus on Will being held back in the military purely because he's black, Jeff's father saying that it's entirely the fault of Christians, Vivica being the one to come up with the virus solution while a bunch of men mock her for it, and Randy Quaid's character would probably just got killed off because his drunk portrays toxic masculinity or something.
I literally lost it when he mentioned the dog outrunning the thermonuclear explosion. That is soooo true. I can't remember cheering harder for a dog surviving a near-death experience in any other movie.
@@iMisanthrope Lol this conservative "victim mentality" is getting real old and is all over the comments of this video, the most hilariously ironic part is that you clearly don't remember that his speech has Globalist AND Socialist themes in it "4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday (globalism lul) but as the day when the world declared in one voice (socialism lul), We will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today we celebrate our Independence Day!” If that speech had happened in a film today you would be rolling your eyes saying "leftist globalist socialism" That said I do agree that this woke bullshit in films needs to stop.
“And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice ‘We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!’”
Like Pirates of the Caribbean, this is one of those beloved movies that is largely recognized as being good, but is actually even better than people realize
One of those strange movies where leaders are at the front of the army, nobody cares about what colour the actors are and the focus isn’t on what’s between everyone’s legs. Love it to absolute death.
@@MindBodySoulOk I recently re watched Die Hard with a vengeance, Samuel L Jackson’s character was a racist. He was bigoted against white people, it was so well done though. He wasn’t a bad guy, just unreasonably prejudiced. It wasn’t preachy. It would never be writ that way today.
I remember watching this in the cinema exactly 25 years ago. An evening of pure joy. No snarky, negative, woke undertones or messages; just the obviously over the top USA! stuff which was kinda hilarious in itself. It's rare to hear a British cinema erupt into cheers but that one did. Hate to blather on about the good old days, but they really were.
the funny thind is it does have all the woke undertones and the 'message' but it did it all right and subtly without having to massacre other characters... the main female characters are strong, bordering on absolute heroic at times... it als opoints out the ptsd that our drunk hero pilot has from the aliens ruining his life... (ptsd so often does to any country';s military vets) this movie hits on SO MANY topics that modern social justice farts try to sledgehammer into movies... and ID takes them with a precision scalpel... slipping them in and making you think without beating you on the head with them like a brick
I will NEVER forget how fucking invested I was in this film at 10 years old during my first viewing. Opening weekend, theater is packed, and my jaw is on the floor at the sheer carnage and terror of these aliens. I was just old enough to understand the stakes, the plot, the jokes, and the characters. Blew me away. What still gives me nostalgic chills is remembering the scene of Whitmore's speech on the morning of July 4. The closing lines are delivered, the music swells, and the crowd cheers... and so did my theater. I literally couldn't tell the difference between the crowd on screen and the crowd in the seats. And yeah, they did the same thing when Whitmore's 2nd missile gets through. Goddamn that was a wonderful feeling. Still one of my favorite movies to this day; it is among what I consider to be "my classics". The last time I felt something even close to that was during Infinity War when Thor showed up with Stormbreaker. But that had to dive through a dozen layers of my jaded adult cynicism before it rang my heartstrings. Well said, Drinker, you picked a good one!
Absolutely loved Randy Quaid's character in this movie. He's a broken drunk, but he's a broken drunk _because_ of what the aliens have already done to him. They attacked him first, and he never knew why or what they wanted, and no one believed him. "Tell my children that I love them very much" he says, and then he takes all that anger and his broken heart and saves the world with his dying breath. The father sacrificing for his children, another masculine archetype on great display.
It’s never truly stated whether the aliens actually took him or if he is just crazy though, and that’s why it’s great. I mean, I lean towards him being crazy - why would they take him and give him back when they are clearly so hostile to humans?
@@Tarquin23 Think of it like the build up to a war. You want to learn as much as you can about your enemies, and spread disinformation too. Releasing a crazy person back to Earth to talk about aliens makes it seem like only crazy people believe in them. Could be a tactic the aliens used en masse for decades.
Because back then, all of us, and the two characters presented on screen, were simply and only Americans and portrayed as such. Will Smith and Vivica Fox were just Americans fighting to survive, not representing a group, not suffering systemically, so how did we go from that, to the diaper fire state we are in today? Those you mean to rule, you must first divide... lets they unite against you.
Independence Day excels at two things: set up and payoff, and dedication to the concept. The alien ships feel huge, the conflict feels huge, the tension and dread are huge. I feel like this movie really just owes it's success to being as focused and lean as possible, where Emmerich and Devlin made every decision by asking "what's the simplest way to make this next part awesome."
Same thing with Zoolander. The movie is insanely stupid but it has just the right mix of charm, subtle humor and ability to make fun of itself that makes it a classic.
Hey man as bad as the sequel was, I'd still be down for a third movie since they basically set it up to go full Star Wars with intergalactic travel and alien rebels.
Independence Day: the one movie that can make a cynical, hard-bitten Scotsman who is just one bottle of whiskey shy of death by liver failure become more American than most Americans.
I remember, before imdb, this movie was selected as the worst blockbuster made after it came out (in a movie magazine) and I kinda expected it would. Nowadays, stupid blockbusters are dime a dozen. In fact, blockbusters are expected to be stupid now.
Being stupid in an age of smart things makes you among the worst. Being fun in an age where fun isn't allowed is very different. Being popular in both makes you a classic.
@@RealBadGaming52 calling Independence Day a "smart sci-fi" is a bit much. It is fun, it is fiction, and popular knowledge of technology moves the plot along. It's not "smart sci-fi" though by any stretch.
25 years later the special effects of indépendance day still look better than the majority of blockbusters nowadays, in my opinion that is the only good thing about this completely stupid movie. I remember well how I hated this overdose of Americanism and how poor was the scenario ( btw aliens looking quite like "Aliens") But everybody including me was astonished by how real it looked a'd that was the real shock of this movie. Today we don't even give a shit that the CGIs are bad, our brain has to accept it otherwise it's no use watching all these new movies, as a result it gives a sad feeling of complete disconnection with what we are watching, if we can't even believe it and identify to it just a little bit, then what's the use of watching it..... Better re-watch 90s movies.....
@UCV6rH2z9xqfxX2YPSp7eK4g I hated Armageddon when it came out, and I wouldn't be able to watch it even 10 minutes today. This movie is pure Michael Bay garbage style. I would agree that the cgis were very good if only they didn't serve such a stupid story with completely incoherent laws of physics. My grandmother used to twist this famous french proverb, something like "to each his own... shit" :)
Fun fact: In a deleted scene, they explained the computers humans have today were reverse engineered from the 1950s Area51 spaceship which is why human computer virus worked on the alienships.
Ugh, that would actually explain why one of 'our computer viruses' would work on their computer, which is, of course from a world far away and probably more advanced. 🤦♂️
thanks drinker! i was lucky enough to work on this! i was on the visual effects team that did all the motion control camera work on the miniatures! the f18s, alien fighters and large spaceships. it was a blast!
This movie will always be special to me. Summer of 1996, I was the first of my friends to get my drivers license. The first time I had the family car to myself for the evening, I picked up 3 buddies, we went and got dinner at a local spot then hit the megaplex to watch Independence Day. Not only was it an absolutely fantastic movie which is still a favorite of mine, but also driving around alone and with friends for the first time was my own “Independence Day”, or at least as independent you can be the summer between your sophomore and junior year in high school. It’s was such an awesome night and I’ll always cherish it
This movie puts more time into actual character development than a majority of Summer blockbusters made after 2010 and this movie is considered the guilty pleasure lol.
It wasn't "in depth" characterization, but they made it clear where they started, gave us reasons to like and care about them, and to cheer at their successes. They took some shortcuts. Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum were Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum. Everyone else can pretty much be summed up in a single sentence or cliche: Old Jewish Guy, Crazy Guy, sleezy politician, loyal old soldier, eccentric scientiest, etc. but it really does work. It's really well cast with solid Hollywood veterans like Judd Hirsch and Robert Loggia. Again, that helps the audience connect with familiar faces in familiar roles.
Gosh! It would appear those Yanks have finally decided to take control of this frightful "alien invasion" business, and give those slimy outer-space blighters a jolly good thwacking! Three cheers then, for those daring Americans chaps! Huzzah!
So, parts of this movie were filmed near the small town where I grew up and a bunch of people I knew were extras in the film. My 7th grade history teacher was one of the guys making fun of Randy Quaid in the diner near the beginning of the movie. And I had a classmate whose dad was in one of the groups of people running away during an alien attack. This movie had a ton of buzz in my little town before it was a huge hit. It was kind of a surreal experience to have something filmed near me be this huge pop culture moment. And it’s a damn fun flick.
I basically feel the same about Armageddon. That movie gets shat on a lot because of the stupid science, but I don't care. I like how it's not a cliche happy end with everybody surviving. The action starts like 1 minute into the movie, the music is beautiful and you have another awesome president speech. The moment when everybody thinks all is lost and then suddenly the second drilling vehicle arrives never fails to tear me up. Absolute guilty pleasure. Man, the 90s were the pinnacle of awesome summer blockbusters.
Not to mention it was an exchange were less dialogue was more. It's what you would expect from someone who's job is to protect the president. No other words were needed, just action.
The Rock, Con Air, Stargate, Face -Off, The Mummy, the Matrix etc etc, the 90's were just chocker-block with good solid entertaining films which still hold up and totally enjoyable. A far cry from the shit -sandwich that is modern Hollywood now.
I'd put demolition man in there too (I think that was 90s) pretty much anything 90s Stallone is a adrenaline/testosterone fueled masterpiece ironically or unironically. Terminator 1 and 2 all such really good movies that didn't care how masculine or over the top it was, they just wanted to make a awesome movie.
@@lightning0938 i just watched demolition man again last week. all i gotta say is that considering the major news and issues of today, that movie was more of a prophecy than just pure entertainment (even though it is a entertaining as hell movie).
Jeff Goldblum fan by default with those two I’m guessing 😎 I think I only ever went to the cinema once with my dad and it was a Saturday matinee of The Mighty Ducks. Film was good at the age I went to see it, not really re-watched it to see if it still holds up. Doesn’t hold a special place in my heart though since I did all sorts with my dad and he taught me lots of skills.
The tearful scenes where Randy Quaid sacrifices himself and Bill Pullman says to his daughter heavily "yeah, Mommy’s sleeping" are a great balance to the action and are fantastically acted
I liked it where Brent Spiner said “all the lights have just come on, it’s really exciting stuff”. The president says “people are dying, it’s not exciting”. I’m an engineer, I work for Raytheon. A weapons manufacturer. Sometimes we lose the sense of reality. It really rang a bell with me. It is exactly how a scientist would react.
Who is Tatiana? Why does he always mentions this name in the videos? Is it a fictional character in one of his books? Or it was his alter ego (nickname) when he was several hours (days?) in Ukranian prison?
The relationship between Drinker and Tatiana could be a rom-com by now if you took all the things he's said and made it into a show. Hi Rogue! I know you're Canadian but did you have a good 4th of July?
I don't care what anyone says. This movie was over-the-top, engaging, shamelessly manipulative, uplifting, visually gorgeous fun, with characters you loved and could cheer for. To me, it still stands the test of time as pure, unadulterated cinema experience. And that speech is one of the best in movie history, heck, we reference it to this day. Thank you, Drinker, for reminding me of one of the jewels of my younger days.
I don't believe in guilty pleasures, because none of my pleasures ever make me feel guilty at all. It is a pleasure for me to watch Independence Day. I always love Independence Day no matter what.
The Fly and Jurassic Park in my opinion were the movies where he wasn't playing himself especially The Fly, he gave an incredible performance in The fly and he really showed his acting chops in that! film
that shot of the fire travelling up the city at 2:21 is still so cool - They build a large scale city miniature with miniature cars and lights etc on a giant board.. then lifted that board 90 (ish) degrees... and let off a ton of pyro at the bottom so it climbs vertically. film it at 96 frames a second or something and bam job done. I love that its all in lens - today we would just cgi the whole lot
lol, I completely agree. I've always loved this movie, even though I know it's not *really* the best thing ever. It's upbeat, it's got President Bill Pullman and his great speech, the space ships really were revolutionary fx at the time, it kicked off Will Smith's 4th of July streak... and THERE'S BRENT SPINER!
I tear up when Russell says his final goodbyes to his kids and then proceeds to tell the aliens to shove it up their asses. All while nursing a massive hangover. God damn legend
I like the detail that his son actually accepts things pretty quickly. I forgot the words, but he after a bit of protest, he got it and respected the decision.
From "do me a favor, tell my kids i love them" to the "In the words of my generation, UP YOOOOURS ! HELLO BOYS IM BAAACK" THATS how you do a rollercoaster speech
I have so much love for this movie, it's the movie where my step dad (he's my dad, not that cu*t that impregnated my mother) bonded on. Broke that barrier of uncomfortableness when i was 10 years old. I still have the vhs he bought me and will never forget when he took me to the cinema to see it. Lied to the cashier about my age and i still remember every moment to this day. This show holds a special place in my heart and my dad and I watch it every christmas when I visit. So OTT and all about MURICA, regardless still a belter of a film.
I saw this with my dad on opening day in Jacksonville beach in a tiny theater, I had the flu and my dad felt bad for me, we went by ourselves and I will NEVER forget the experience. It was just….fun.
This movie really is like a modern day Arthurian legend. You have a terrifying monster threatening humanity, a king who leads his knights into battle, wizards who cast spells to give the knights a chance, and a downtrodden warrior who proves his valor to the world with a noble sacrifice. Absolutely wonderful.
Lol I just watched this earlier. I still love this movie as much as ever. And the fact that it ends on such a great, wholesome line? “Didn’t I promise you fireworks?” “Yeah!” Best. Stepdad. Ever!!!!!
Thing I loved about Independence day , no forced representation (even though it had a full and diverse cast) , no identity politics shoved down your throat and no feminist undertone. Just a decent script, a bunch of people who work well together and explosions... That's it, all you need for a good action movie.
I agree and with the woke mentality you see in Hollywood right now ., if they were to do a remake of the original film it would be a guaranteed dumpster Fire by comparison
Ah, for the old days when you could make a good movie with good characters and a good script and not have to make ideological diarrhea with a cast of checkboxes.
"PEW PEW PEW PEW PEWPEWPEW PEW!!" *everyone shoots Barettas in a closed room, without hearing protection and somehow nobody gots a bang-trauma from it*
Most underrated scene in the movie! Totally BADASS! Adam Baldwin is an absolute LENGEND. Nobody can deliver a simple line like "No, sir." with such unmitigated BADASSERY.
"We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day! Gets me every time.
@@clementducasse4583 Well England is responsible for many many independence days. So...........They will be ok. Also "Today Independence day isn't just an American celebration."
Just showed this (for the first time) to my two teenagers last night, and they loved it. Certainly something of a timeless film. I wish they still made movies like this.
Actually in 1953, War of the Worlds blew up Los Angeles City Hall spectacularly, but yeah, Independence day did a fantastic job. The effects were mostly practical, using huge miniatures and lots of gasoline! But, yeah, they still look awesome.
My mom passed away from an unspecified virus of unknown origin in December. One of the best memories I have of her, was when she took me to the cinema to see this masterpiece. Usually a trip to the cinema involved the whole family, but it was just us, this one, single time. And as a person who literally despised sci-fi movies, she loved every minute of it and cheered with the rest of the crowd. Guility pleasure - no, a cherished memory for me ;)
thats touching, man. thanks for sharing. may your mom rest in piece, she's in thoughts (albeit momentarily) of a complete stranger on earth, thinking of you and her sharing this sweet moment.
I remember seeing this in theaters on July 4th, because I begged my uncle to take me. What a wonderful memory that was. Thank you, Drinker, for helping to bring it back!
When you look at it, the mid-70's through the late 90's was a period where Hollywood was making memorable movies at every level. I think it's because even a lot of the low budget stuff had memorable characters and dialog. Think of how little that's really quotable or memorable has come out in the last 15 years. Hugely successful movies have added very little to the pop culture landscape.
@@szymonklimann3184 it's takes a special kind of triggered child to stalk someone via RUclips comments. I'm not sure if I should feel pride, or have pity.
absolutely right about watching this every time it comes on tv.. and there's no real spot in the movie I find myself fastforwarding through even though i've seen the movie dozens of times
This movie sold out every show for weeks at the local theatre when it came out. What’s funny is that there’s really nothing new in it, but it’s all executed so well that you couldn’t help but want to see it again the moment it ended. It’s corny and cliche in so many ways that it actually made me smile not only at how openly manipulative it is, but that the manipulation is so effective. The dog jumping out of the explosion is the perfect encapsulation of the entire thing: You want to roll your eyes, but end up cheering, instead. Love this movie.
We all knew the sequel would be garbage after finding out Will Smith wouldn't be returning. Not to mention, they didn't even make a statue of Russell Casse, despite him sacrificing his life to save humanity.
I want to answer "star wars" whenever I hear that, but then I remember that most plebs will think Im talking about the brand and not the 1977 movie... So I usually just go for empire strikes back.
TimeWarpDrive 77 that’s a fair assumption...you could add the A New Hope bit though 🤔 Empire’s my favorite to be honest. One of the very few sequels to outshine its predecessor (IMO). But the Original is timeless.
@@roldyrs3409 I hate saying A new hope.. Cause that isn't what it was called and ANH(essentially the edited version) is not really the version I like. And pretty much agree with the second bit..
TimeWarpDrive 77 I completely understand that sentiment. I still have the OT on VHS before the CGI bits were added. The original cuts should have remained the only cuts.
My favorite movie of all time. It does literally everything right. An often-overlooked reason is the sheer level of the threat. The villain couldn't be negotiated with, couldn't be fought, it just wiped out billions of people in a heartbeat. I'd disagree that it isn't high art, it was executed perfectly.
Fun Fact: they originally filmed a slightly different climax. The drunk dad who saved the day was originally rejected when they asked for pilot volunteers. So he steals a missile, straps it to his biplane, and flies that into the city ship to destroy it at the end. They decided that was too ridiculous so all the external shots of the biplane from the final battle were replaced with an F18 and they recorded new in-cockpit footage of him, as well as the scene where the Air Force trainer asks for his background, months after they had wrapped second unit photography. That's why the flight path of his F18 seems so weird. Also, half of his lines during the air battle (and literally everyone else's) were unchanged from the original ending.
@Epicword Didn't they do that with The Day the Earth Stood Still? The original movie was a cautionary tale about aliens trying to stop the devastation that would result from potential nuclear war... and when they remade the movie in 2008 it became "humans are destroying the earth" with a climate kind of angle instead.
There is a timeline where Hollywood realizes its mistakes and makes one hell of come back. Astonishing audiences who now have the benefit of remembering how bad things got.
Anyone who tells a story shouldn't dismiss this movie. They need to study it, because despite whatever you think, the movie works. When you see the dog avoid a nuclear firestorm by turning left, and you cheer, you must ask yourself "how the hell did they make me do that?" Find that answer, and you're on your way to being a master storyteller.
id argue based on first hand accounts of hiroshima and nagasaki survivors that its very plausible, barefoot gen is a historical piece written by a man who was 6 at the time, he witnessed the bomb go off at hiroshima, so the story he wrote based on what happened to him may be one of the most accurate depictions of what happens. its kinda like how hacksaw ridge cuts out like half the true story because people wouldnt believe everything that happened there. Tsutomu Yamaguchi was in both bombings and is the only officially recognized person to have survived both and the things hes said line up with everyone elses accounts
Independence Day, Men in Black, Armageddon, Jurassic Park, Terminator 2, Godzilla, Starship Troopers, Deep impact, Event Horizon, Dark City, Virus, Mars Attacks, The Fifth Element, Wild Wild West... Damn! Miss the 90's so much
I saw this movie the day that it premiered: July 2, 1996. The whole theater was in awe. Independence Day is a classic blockbuster. It's so good that the sequel can't ruin it's legacy (though it tried very hard to do so).
I was 13, my parents let me walk downtown to the theaters to watch this with a friend. He kept asking if I had seen the trailers for ID4... I had no clue what he was talking about. I went in blind and loved every minute of it. Our theater also cheered at the speech too.
I worked at a movie theater when this came out, so as an employee, we were able to pre-screen it. Most of the time, only the managers did those (it was a requirement just to be sure the projectionists had spliced the sections together properly), but in this instance, pretty much the entire staff came in, and we weren't disappointed. Everyone went absolutely bonkers, especially during Will Smith's cat-and-mouse plane chase with the aliens through the canyon, and we knew it was going to be a massive, long-running hit.
It is not a guilty pleasure I'd argue. To quote Honest Trailers: "Back when Summer Blockbusters was light and campy, [as opposed to now] when they're dark and Nolany".
the good old days when the point of a movie was to entertain you for a few hours instead of beat you over the head with the screen writer's shallow understanding of current year politics....
@@markusfreund6961 you acting like I was comparing myself to him and pray tell why you say that I'm not wrong he has a guilty pleasure in this movie but can't accept that with fans of GvK calling it just like this movie seems hypocritical to me.
This movie is a masterpiece in so many levels. It's script writing perfection. Character writing perfection. Tone is perfect throughout the whole movie. Fun is off the roof. Casting is amazing. There is not a single scene that doesn't move the plot forward or that doesn't serve as character growth, meaning there is not a single boring scene in the whole flick. Every time I watch it I like it more. I can't really think of another movie so perfect in every way like this other than Die Hard.
Looking back on this movie, I really wish Roland Emmerich could produce and direct a Star Wars movie. Yeah, some may laugh, but he'd do a damn better job than the recent Disney SW efforts.
@@evertonporter7887 that might hold true if his career had several ID4's. But look at the rest of his filmography (aside from Stargate) and you will think twice about that.
I would say that the virus solution was the absolute opposite of "script writing perfection" due to the completely impossible implausibility of it. I still rank that as one of the worst script writing failures in movie history just because of how easy it would have been to actually research what a computer virus is and how it works, realise that that solution is just way too unrealistic to even be considered a possiblity, especially with the short time frame they had to study the working alien technology, and just come up with something else that could actually work for real instead. But still a good movie overall!
One of the few movies I have watched multiple times. When I first watched it in the cinema, it blew me away. I wanted to go back and watch it again. Got to remember, in 1996, the visuals were out of this world (no pun intended)
Please Remember Good Folks, “It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” ~Bill Murray
His character was anal-probed. He got payback by flying his jet up the ass of the mothership. That was one of my favorite setups of the whole movie and hardly anybody gets it.
Yep... I was 14 when this came out and had the honor to see the first screening in the city I used to live in. Everybody in the theater was so engrossed in the film that it truly felt like everybody was connected for a couple hours. When it was over, it was the most amazing feeling to know that every person that was in there shared the same experience at the same moment in time and that it would be forever engraved in our memories. Now a days, it feels like nobody can be on the same page as another without spouting up some sort of opinion to ruin the moment. Those were the good ol days, and I am glad to have been a part of it, no matter how short of a time that small spark was lit, it truly was an amazing time to be alive.
The most American film ever made by a German director w/ the most star-spangled score by a Brit. BTW, Bad Boys (1995) was actually Will Smith's first blockbuster.
And don't forget "The Patriot" The most American film ever with an Australian lead and German director. Also, Christopher Nolan's dark Knight trilogy is more American than most other comic book adaptions (imo)
I like the way you think. Have you seen "Matrix"? There's another classic that should have been expanded into a trilogy but tragically it never happened.
Bill Pullman is a hidden gem of an actor while you were sleeping is a classic romcom but Independence Day will always shine through with his best role. I did like how he was portrayed as the perfect president. His reservations and doubts about his own decisions and authority, stemmed from a much needed reverence due to being president and the need to remember power lies in the hands of the people. But when disaster struck, he realize everyone would look to him, not simply as a representative, but as a true leader, needing the war hero to shine through once more.
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Just watch this 3 days ago. The sequel sucks.
Just watched boondock saints and it’s still a banger
I consider this movie best SF ACTION COMEDY ever made its my 10/10 Every year i drop some lsd or shrroms on 4th july weekend and check if Will still blows up mothership. Crazy Son of a bitch makes it EVERY TIME lol
Did u watch the theatrical or extended cut?
I feel like everyone is talking about this movie at the moment
Quick story: I work in a nursing home and there's a resident there that absolutely loves film of all ages and genres. As such, he handles and plans all of our in house theater's screenings. He chose Independence Day to screen yesterday, instead of the usual older material, or toned down newer films, and not one resident didn't think it was awesome as can be and fun as hell. First time I've ever heard our theater's bass booming like an IMAX. It was heartening to say the least. Anyway, that's all I've got for today... I'll go away now.
That's a great story thanks for sharing :D
I wish you and that resident all the best.
🙏🙏🙏👍
That's a brilliant story dude! Hahaha.
Brilliant story 👍
Fun Fact: Independence Day had a “diverse” cast and touched on a lot of social inequality issues. But you would’ve never noticed unless I told you, which is the way it should be.
Right, Hollywood was able to do that then without hitting you over the head with a shovel.
Spot on, if in a pub quiz the question asked was 'name an American film where the two hero's are a black man and a jew? I just wouldn't think of ID4, cos it just doesn't matter.
Will Smith has gotta Will Smith & Geff Goldblum gotta Geff Goldblum, and the world's a better place got it.
Ahhhh! Ballet!
That was the seemingly good-natured trojan horse that eased us into this mess.
@won doyouwant Exactly. I immediately noticed those details even when I was younger but the movie never got annoying with preaching and the kind of stuff that you see today.
When Will Smith punched that alien and said "Welcome to Earth!", my theater audience went ape shit. Everyone was cheering, dudes were standing up and hollering. This movie was such a fun ride.
Yeah. I also loved how there were smart women, black men, Jews, drunks etc etc but you never felt there was any social engineering agenda to this movie - just pure spectacle and fun
It made us all feel American. In fact the movie is AMERICA.
@@jamesfowler415 just competent people doing their work no identity politics in sight, the good times!
if this movie is made now we know how it will look, a shitfest!
@@jamesfowler415 That's because the movie focused on their characters rather than their identity or skin color.
Will Smith was black but his story revolved solely around his military career clashing with his personal life. Jeff Goldblum was a Jew but his story revolved around finally realizing his potential and taking a stand, rather than just being a cable technician. Vivica A. Fox portrayed a strong-willed woman with common sense, but she never had to put down another character to assert herself. Randy Quaid seems like a lowly drunk at the start of the movie, but the ongoing events make you realize that maybe he's NOT crazy when he claims aliens abducted him. Perhaps they broke him, which is why he drinks. Then when he gets a chance to sacrifice himself to save humanity, it shows that he's still a moral person at heart.
If they remade this movie today they would focus on Will being held back in the military purely because he's black, Jeff's father saying that it's entirely the fault of Christians, Vivica being the one to come up with the virus solution while a bunch of men mock her for it, and Randy Quaid's character would probably just got killed off because his drunk portrays toxic masculinity or something.
I know right.
I literally lost it when he mentioned the dog outrunning the thermonuclear explosion. That is soooo true. I can't remember cheering harder for a dog surviving a near-death experience in any other movie.
Movie Rule of Success #1 : Never kill a dog on screen
@@talltroll7092
Except it's the catalyst of your story like John Wick
My audience was legit laughing at the idea of a dog getting out of there…..
@@talltroll7092 Michael Bay said that in commentary to Armageddon DVD. I am delighted to have met you.
Also avoided dying from asphyxiation, when the air somehow wasn't sucked out of that narrow alley by the explosion! 😃
I still get chills when President Whitmore gives that speech, it is honestly just inspiring and it has no business being as good as it is.
The orchestral backing with it is just perfect. Much love to Bill Pullman wherever he is.
Look at Budweisers 4th of July commercial that just came out. It was great.
@@iMisanthrope Funny how they've successfully turned simply supporting America into a negative thing. That didn't happen naturally or by accident.
Such a great speech
@@iMisanthrope Lol this conservative "victim mentality" is getting real old and is all over the comments of this video, the most hilariously ironic part is that you clearly don't remember that his speech has Globalist AND Socialist themes in it "4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday (globalism lul) but as the day when the world declared in one voice (socialism lul), We will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”
If that speech had happened in a film today you would be rolling your eyes saying "leftist globalist socialism"
That said I do agree that this woke bullshit in films needs to stop.
“And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice ‘We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!’”
*salutes aggressively*
Hell yeah!
Best fucking pre-battle speech ever, hands down.
I'm not American and even I saluted hard to that line.
Oh, Hell Yeah!
"Is that glass bulletproof?"
"No sir."
I'm happy to see so many others enjoy that bit as much as I do.
Like Pirates of the Caribbean, this is one of those beloved movies that is largely recognized as being good, but is actually even better than people realize
One of those strange movies where leaders are at the front of the army, nobody cares about what colour the actors are and the focus isn’t on what’s between everyone’s legs.
Love it to absolute death.
Hollywood could never make this movie again.
@@MindBodySoulOk I recently re watched Die Hard with a vengeance, Samuel L Jackson’s character was a racist.
He was bigoted against white people, it was so well done though. He wasn’t a bad guy, just unreasonably prejudiced. It wasn’t preachy.
It would never be writ that way today.
Good point mate
Yeah but that's Old Hollywood sadly
@@lesserspottedmugwump.363
Just watched that yesterday for about the 50th time. Sam and Bruce are so damn good together. Zeus is definitely a racist.
"and Jeff Goldblum is just playing Jeff Goldblum...AND IT'S AWESOME!!" Yes, yes it is.
And he didn't age since, like every vampire. He only got a little grey.
I remember watching this in the cinema exactly 25 years ago. An evening of pure joy. No snarky, negative, woke undertones or messages; just the obviously over the top USA! stuff which was kinda hilarious in itself. It's rare to hear a British cinema erupt into cheers but that one did. Hate to blather on about the good old days, but they really were.
They really were. Cheers friend, we're old now
One of only two times I got my dad into a movie theater. The advertising up until its release was mesmerizing.
the funny thind is it does have all the woke undertones and the 'message' but it did it all right and subtly without having to massacre other characters... the main female characters are strong, bordering on absolute heroic at times... it als opoints out the ptsd that our drunk hero pilot has from the aliens ruining his life... (ptsd so often does to any country';s military vets) this movie hits on SO MANY topics that modern social justice farts try to sledgehammer into movies... and ID takes them with a precision scalpel... slipping them in and making you think without beating you on the head with them like a brick
They really were
@@brayachdragonbane7529 not woke at all buddy
I will NEVER forget how fucking invested I was in this film at 10 years old during my first viewing. Opening weekend, theater is packed, and my jaw is on the floor at the sheer carnage and terror of these aliens. I was just old enough to understand the stakes, the plot, the jokes, and the characters. Blew me away.
What still gives me nostalgic chills is remembering the scene of Whitmore's speech on the morning of July 4. The closing lines are delivered, the music swells, and the crowd cheers... and so did my theater. I literally couldn't tell the difference between the crowd on screen and the crowd in the seats. And yeah, they did the same thing when Whitmore's 2nd missile gets through. Goddamn that was a wonderful feeling. Still one of my favorite movies to this day; it is among what I consider to be "my classics".
The last time I felt something even close to that was during Infinity War when Thor showed up with Stormbreaker. But that had to dive through a dozen layers of my jaded adult cynicism before it rang my heartstrings.
Well said, Drinker, you picked a good one!
Absolutely loved Randy Quaid's character in this movie. He's a broken drunk, but he's a broken drunk _because_ of what the aliens have already done to him. They attacked him first, and he never knew why or what they wanted, and no one believed him. "Tell my children that I love them very much" he says, and then he takes all that anger and his broken heart and saves the world with his dying breath. The father sacrificing for his children, another masculine archetype on great display.
It’s never truly stated whether the aliens actually took him or if he is just crazy though, and that’s why it’s great. I mean, I lean towards him being crazy - why would they take him and give him back when they are clearly so hostile to humans?
@@Tarquin23 Think of it like the build up to a war. You want to learn as much as you can about your enemies, and spread disinformation too.
Releasing a crazy person back to Earth to talk about aliens makes it seem like only crazy people believe in them. Could be a tactic the aliens used en masse for decades.
Dude, you touched me. You're absolutely right. I'm sold. Probably the greatest underrated character in the movie.
Quaid’s delivery is perfect for “..tell my children...”. I get dust in my eyes when that scene plays
@@4kirk8675309 Bro, I literally teared up when critical drinker talked about his arc in the movie lol. So good.
As my buddy observed at the time: a black guy and a Jew save the world, and _everybody loved them without reservation!_
Shut this down!
I honestly think that occurred to way fewer people back then than it would now.
Yes because it didn’t matter then, what mattered was what you did
@@MrSophire A better time. Now even I notices stuff I don't want to notice.
Because back then, all of us, and the two characters presented on screen, were simply and only Americans and portrayed as such. Will Smith and Vivica Fox were just Americans fighting to survive, not representing a group, not suffering systemically, so how did we go from that, to the diaper fire state we are in today? Those you mean to rule, you must first divide... lets they unite against you.
Independence Day excels at two things: set up and payoff, and dedication to the concept. The alien ships feel huge, the conflict feels huge, the tension and dread are huge. I feel like this movie really just owes it's success to being as focused and lean as possible, where Emmerich and Devlin made every decision by asking "what's the simplest way to make this next part awesome."
This movie, while big and dumb, has one really important thing going for it that's missing in Hollywood these days: CHARM.
Same thing with Zoolander. The movie is insanely stupid but it has just the right mix of charm, subtle humor and ability to make fun of itself that makes it a classic.
AND REMEMBER... After this movie, THERE WAS NEVER A SEQUEL.
@Ram Prasath No, you are mistaken. THERE.IS.NO.SEQUEL.
There's a prequel novel and sequel novel from 1997 and 1998 respectively
@@a-a-ron97 it's a joke
THERE WAS NEVER A SEQUEL. *wink wink*
Hey man as bad as the sequel was, I'd still be down for a third movie since they basically set it up to go full Star Wars with intergalactic travel and alien rebels.
Independence Day: the one movie that can make a cynical, hard-bitten Scotsman who is just one bottle of whiskey shy of death by liver failure become more American than most Americans.
Well he has some guns so he’s already an honorary American
I would easily trade him for those anti-american radical leftists that just want america to burn. Like Ilhan Omar and "the squad"
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
Well put! Well put indeed!
He's been more American than many Americans for a while now. I'd trade half of Congress for the Drinker.
I remember, before imdb, this movie was selected as the worst blockbuster made after it came out (in a movie magazine) and I kinda expected it would. Nowadays, stupid blockbusters are dime a dozen. In fact, blockbusters are expected to be stupid now.
Being stupid in an age of smart things makes you among the worst. Being fun in an age where fun isn't allowed is very different. Being popular in both makes you a classic.
@@RealBadGaming52 calling Independence Day a "smart sci-fi" is a bit much. It is fun, it is fiction, and popular knowledge of technology moves the plot along. It's not "smart sci-fi" though by any stretch.
25 years later the special effects of indépendance day still look better than the majority of blockbusters nowadays, in my opinion that is the only good thing about this completely stupid movie. I remember well how I hated this overdose of Americanism and how poor was the scenario ( btw aliens looking quite like "Aliens") But everybody including me was astonished by how real it looked a'd that was the real shock of this movie.
Today we don't even give a shit that the CGIs are bad, our brain has to accept it otherwise it's no use watching all these new movies, as a result it gives a sad feeling of complete disconnection with what we are watching, if we can't even believe it and identify to it just a little bit, then what's the use of watching it.....
Better re-watch 90s movies.....
@@drixc1 Agreed, and ID's practical effects are up there with Bottin's work on The Thing. Still holding up well.
@UCV6rH2z9xqfxX2YPSp7eK4g I hated Armageddon when it came out, and I wouldn't be able to watch it even 10 minutes today. This movie is pure Michael Bay garbage style. I would agree that the cgis were very good if only they didn't serve such a stupid story with completely incoherent laws of physics.
My grandmother used to twist this famous french proverb, something like "to each his own... shit" :)
You care about the characters, who they are, what happens to them, and if they succeed
That is the hallmark of a good story
A timeless blockbuster for me. The sequel however never should have been made
The fact they thought they were setting up a trilogy is just stupid
We don't talk about the sequel. It's an abomination! 💩🔥
I forgot there was a sequel
It was a solid idea in concept, the race of aliens wanting revenge, but honestly should have stayed as an idea.
Sequel is weak still better than most of new SF garbage and... thats sad as fuck.
Fun fact: In a deleted scene, they explained the computers humans have today were reverse engineered from the 1950s Area51 spaceship which is why human computer virus worked on the alienships.
That's actually a deleted scene that should not have been deleted because of course I've been complaining and nit-picking about that for decades.
Ugh, that would actually explain why one of 'our computer viruses' would work on their computer, which is, of course from a world far away and probably more advanced. 🤦♂️
That resolves the only thing that stopped my willing suspension of disbelief.
@@Krysdavar It’s like if you encountered a prehistoric virus in a cave and your immune system couldn’t recognize it.
I didn't know that! And it's a great detail!
thanks drinker! i was lucky enough to work on this! i was on the visual effects team that did all the motion control camera work on the miniatures! the f18s, alien fighters and large spaceships. it was a blast!
Next time i watch it, I'll look for your name. Hopefully i can come back here for just to say I did it. 😁👍🏽
This movie will always be special to me. Summer of 1996, I was the first of my friends to get my drivers license. The first time I had the family car to myself for the evening, I picked up 3 buddies, we went and got dinner at a local spot then hit the megaplex to watch Independence Day.
Not only was it an absolutely fantastic movie which is still a favorite of mine, but also driving around alone and with friends for the first time was my own “Independence Day”, or at least as independent you can be the summer between your sophomore and junior year in high school. It’s was such an awesome night and I’ll always cherish it
This movie puts more time into actual character development than a majority of Summer blockbusters made after 2010 and this movie is considered the guilty pleasure lol.
Ikr
Probably the best version of War Of The Worlds, EVER!
It wasn't "in depth" characterization, but they made it clear where they started, gave us reasons to like and care about them, and to cheer at their successes. They took some shortcuts. Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum were Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum. Everyone else can pretty much be summed up in a single sentence or cliche: Old Jewish Guy, Crazy Guy, sleezy politician, loyal old soldier, eccentric scientiest, etc. but it really does work. It's really well cast with solid Hollywood veterans like Judd Hirsch and Robert Loggia. Again, that helps the audience connect with familiar faces in familiar roles.
@@carlrood4457 Brent Spiner playing Doctor Okun was perfect.
Nice to see someone else who read Footfall.
"It's from the Americans! They want to organize a counteroffensive!"
"God, its about bloody time!"
God: hold my beer.
Methinks this movie was made by americans.
@Gwyn and Gold We like to say "US-ians" at the blog I invest but anyway, isn't Roland Emmrich, the creator, German?
Gosh! It would appear those Yanks have finally decided to take control of this frightful "alien invasion" business, and give those slimy outer-space blighters a jolly good thwacking! Three cheers then, for those daring Americans chaps! Huzzah!
@@nickmitsialis yeah but Tag der Deutschen Einheit doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it
So, parts of this movie were filmed near the small town where I grew up and a bunch of people I knew were extras in the film. My 7th grade history teacher was one of the guys making fun of Randy Quaid in the diner near the beginning of the movie. And I had a classmate whose dad was in one of the groups of people running away during an alien attack.
This movie had a ton of buzz in my little town before it was a huge hit. It was kind of a surreal experience to have something filmed near me be this huge pop culture moment.
And it’s a damn fun flick.
I basically feel the same about Armageddon. That movie gets shat on a lot because of the stupid science, but I don't care. I like how it's not a cliche happy end with everybody surviving. The action starts like 1 minute into the movie, the music is beautiful and you have another awesome president speech. The moment when everybody thinks all is lost and then suddenly the second drilling vehicle arrives never fails to tear me up. Absolute guilty pleasure. Man, the 90s were the pinnacle of awesome summer blockbusters.
"Is this glass bulletproof?"
"No, sir!"
Whitmore's character turns on that exchange. So well done.
Not to mention it was an exchange were less dialogue was more. It's what you would expect from someone who's job is to protect the president. No other words were needed, just action.
I suddenly realized you meant the President going from willing to negotiate to nuking the aliens. That was pretty awesome, I agree.
@@lewisvargrson "Let's nuke the bastards" is an awesome line.
And the skeezy DoD secretary is just gobbling it up. I miss James Rebhorn.
And who else, but The Man They Call Jayne to whip out his gun, at the exact perfect moment? 😆
@@jaimel88 You can always trust this man and his love, Vera.
The Rock, Con Air, Stargate, Face -Off, The Mummy, the Matrix etc etc, the 90's were just chocker-block with good solid entertaining films which still hold up and totally enjoyable. A far cry from the shit -sandwich that is modern Hollywood now.
HEAT. Add that one to this list and boom! you got the perfect 90s movie list.
I'd put demolition man in there too (I think that was 90s) pretty much anything 90s Stallone is a adrenaline/testosterone fueled masterpiece ironically or unironically. Terminator 1 and 2 all such really good movies that didn't care how masculine or over the top it was, they just wanted to make a awesome movie.
Add Se7en. The list could go on and on the more people you ask.
@@lightning0938 i just watched demolition man again last week. all i gotta say is that considering the major news and issues of today, that movie was more of a prophecy than just pure entertainment (even though it is a entertaining as hell movie).
Speed was great too!
I only saw to movies in the theater with my father before he passed away. This and Jurassic Park. So it holds a special place in my heart :)
Jeff Goldblum fan by default with those two I’m guessing 😎
I think I only ever went to the cinema once with my dad and it was a Saturday matinee of The Mighty Ducks. Film was good at the age I went to see it, not really re-watched it to see if it still holds up.
Doesn’t hold a special place in my heart though since I did all sorts with my dad and he taught me lots of skills.
Yeah this and Jurassic Park are two of my favourite movies. The X-Files movie is another guilty pleasure.
Aliens: **attempt to invade Earth**
Drinker: "Go away now."
The tearful scenes where Randy Quaid sacrifices himself and Bill Pullman says to his daughter heavily "yeah, Mommy’s sleeping" are a great balance to the action and are fantastically acted
I liked it where Brent Spiner said “all the lights have just come on, it’s really exciting stuff”.
The president says “people are dying, it’s not exciting”.
I’m an engineer, I work for Raytheon. A weapons manufacturer. Sometimes we lose the sense of reality.
It really rang a bell with me. It is exactly how a scientist would react.
This movie is nothing more than an emotional roller-coaster.
"Mommy's sleeping" is like a fucking gut punch from Prince Goro.
I thought she was dead.
@@super1million11 "This movie is nothing more than an emotional roller-coaster."
To which we say "Weeee!"
“Hello Tatiana, I’m Baaaccccckkkk!” -The Drinker 5 Years Ago after the longest Bender of his life
Who is Tatiana? Why does he always mentions this name in the videos? Is it a fictional character in one of his books? Or it was his alter ego (nickname) when he was several hours (days?) in Ukranian prison?
The relationship between Drinker and Tatiana could be a rom-com by now if you took all the things he's said and made it into a show.
Hi Rogue! I know you're Canadian but did you have a good 4th of July?
@@IronTulikettu 👋🏿 Kitsune, it could have been better honestly but the burgers were good at least.
@@IronTulikettu Still a better love story then twilight 😂
@LTNetjak A strip club with a flat? The irony...
I don't care what anyone says. This movie was over-the-top, engaging, shamelessly manipulative, uplifting, visually gorgeous fun, with characters you loved and could cheer for. To me, it still stands the test of time as pure, unadulterated cinema experience. And that speech is one of the best in movie history, heck, we reference it to this day. Thank you, Drinker, for reminding me of one of the jewels of my younger days.
I don't believe in guilty pleasures, because none of my pleasures ever make me feel guilty at all. It is a pleasure for me to watch Independence Day. I always love Independence Day no matter what.
I fucking lost it when the Drinker started the USA USA chant.
With his thick Scottish accent it made it funnier lol.
@@ZacharyDarkes I didn't notice his accent...it was all American bay bay
Like a boss! Just like I was screaming at the end of “Braveheart” after Robert the Bruce’s speech. Being a boss gets respect wherever it’s from!
I would’ve done the same thing
I'm not even American and I felt patriotic toward the U.S when that speech went down.
"And Jeff Goldblum as Jeff Goldblum"- that could be said for 95% of his roles.
I'd be curious to hear your idea of the 5%, because I honestly can't think of any.
@@davidryder3374
Mr. Frost.
The Fly and Jurassic Park in my opinion were the movies where he wasn't playing himself especially The Fly, he gave an incredible performance in The fly and he really showed his acting chops in that! film
95% as Jeff Goldblum.
5% as a fly.
And we wouldn't have it any other way.
that shot of the fire travelling up the city at 2:21 is still so cool - They build a large scale city miniature with miniature cars and lights etc on a giant board.. then lifted that board 90 (ish) degrees... and let off a ton of pyro at the bottom so it climbs vertically. film it at 96 frames a second or something and bam job done. I love that its all in lens - today we would just cgi the whole lot
@digifalc0087 yep 😂👍🏽
lol, I completely agree. I've always loved this movie, even though I know it's not *really* the best thing ever. It's upbeat, it's got President Bill Pullman and his great speech, the space ships really were revolutionary fx at the time, it kicked off Will Smith's 4th of July streak... and THERE'S BRENT SPINER!
I always thought it was terrible lol
Very good movie
I tear up when Russell says his final goodbyes to his kids and then proceeds to tell the aliens to shove it up their asses. All while nursing a massive hangover. God damn legend
I like the detail that his son actually accepts things pretty quickly. I forgot the words, but he after a bit of protest, he got it and respected the decision.
Picked a hell of a day to quit drinking
@@theexiledv2323 "Missile Launch"
@@kylekatarn5964 😄👍
From "do me a favor, tell my kids i love them" to the "In the words of my generation, UP YOOOOURS ! HELLO BOYS IM BAAACK"
THATS how you do a rollercoaster speech
"Is that glass bulletproof?"
"NO SIR."
Baddest of Bad A moments courtesy of baby Jayne Cobb.
My muscular butt it's not bulletproof
I freaking LOVED him in CHUCK!
Gawwd i was always in love with Adam Baldwin. Love that scene.
He even had that death stare, pulling his pistol out.
Don’t forget animal mother from FMJacket
I have so much love for this movie, it's the movie where my step dad (he's my dad, not that cu*t that impregnated my mother) bonded on. Broke that barrier of uncomfortableness when i was 10 years old. I still have the vhs he bought me and will never forget when he took me to the cinema to see it. Lied to the cashier about my age and i still remember every moment to this day. This show holds a special place in my heart and my dad and I watch it every christmas when I visit. So OTT and all about MURICA, regardless still a belter of a film.
I hope that opinion of your blood father is based on what you saw with your own eyes and not just on what your Mom told you...
I saw this with my dad on opening day in Jacksonville beach in a tiny theater, I had the flu and my dad felt bad for me, we went by ourselves and I will NEVER forget the experience. It was just….fun.
This movie really is like a modern day Arthurian legend. You have a terrifying monster threatening humanity, a king who leads his knights into battle, wizards who cast spells to give the knights a chance, and a downtrodden warrior who proves his valor to the world with a noble sacrifice. Absolutely wonderful.
I will never be able to unsee this and I think I'm fine with it.
This might just be the most poetic yet insightful comment I've ever seen for this movie. Wow. Well done.
this is a meme-worthy review of Independence Day and I love it
Damn.. Straight to the core! I wonder if you can take some other old and classic tale and reinvent for a modern age?
No wonder it resonates with people. Now I want Jonathan Pageau to do a full video analysis of Independence Day based on these symbols and archetypes.
2 of my favourite lines from this film:
"Welcome to Earth"
"HELLO BOY'S!..... I'M BAAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!!!"
i must break you
I got to get me one of these!!
Now that’s what I call a Close Encounter.
Uhm…exotic…dancer.
One of the best films ever despite the silliness of it. Has the perfect mix of fun and seriousness in it.
Lol I just watched this earlier. I still love this movie as much as ever. And the fact that it ends on such a great, wholesome line?
“Didn’t I promise you fireworks?”
“Yeah!”
Best. Stepdad. Ever!!!!!
Thing I loved about Independence day , no forced representation (even though it had a full and diverse cast) , no identity politics shoved down your throat and no feminist undertone. Just a decent script, a bunch of people who work well together and explosions... That's it, all you need for a good action movie.
I agree and with the woke mentality you see in Hollywood right now ., if they were to do a remake of the original film it would be a guaranteed dumpster Fire by comparison
Ah, for the old days when you could make a good movie with good characters and a good script and not have to make ideological diarrhea with a cast of checkboxes.
"and... as the good Reverend would say . . ."
"Is that glass bulletproof?"
"No, sir."
"PEW PEW PEW PEW PEWPEWPEW PEW!!"
*everyone shoots Barettas in a closed room, without hearing protection and somehow nobody gots a bang-trauma from it*
Most underrated scene in the movie! Totally BADASS! Adam Baldwin is an absolute LENGEND. Nobody can deliver a simple line like "No, sir." with such unmitigated BADASSERY.
@@vcdonovan5943 Adam Baldwin is the man in anything. Firefly to Chuck to Last Ship... you want badass, you want Adam.
@@vcdonovan5943 You talk the talk. Can you walk the walk?
@@lucastrask2838 dont forget his amazing role with the rest of the firefly boys in halo3 odst, a game sure but still its a good time
Watched Independence Day at the theater when I was fifteen. Now at forty-one years old I can honestly say I still love this movie.
I saw this movie for the first time spending the night at a friends house, we were glued to the screen the whole run. Good times.
"It's from the Americans, they want to organize a counter offensive!"
"About bloody time! What do they intend to do?"
*USA! USA USA!*
"You know...the thing!"..."C'mon maaaaan...."
@@Ease54 hahahha
Lol...ya cause we actually have guns
💪🦍👍
"We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!
Gets me every time.
Same for me.
Frissons
I stand up and salute every time
@@ReverendMeat51 o7
I'm not sure the British liked the last part.
@@clementducasse4583 Well England is responsible for many many independence days. So...........They will be ok.
Also "Today Independence day isn't just an American celebration."
Just showed this (for the first time) to my two teenagers last night, and they loved it. Certainly something of a timeless film. I wish they still made movies like this.
Actually in 1953, War of the Worlds blew up Los Angeles City Hall spectacularly, but yeah, Independence day did a fantastic job. The effects were mostly practical, using huge miniatures and lots of gasoline! But, yeah, they still look awesome.
I personally think this film is cinematic genius. It isn't top art but it knows what it is, and it entertains... something Hollywood forgot long ago.
My mom passed away from an unspecified virus of unknown origin in December. One of the best memories I have of her, was when she took me to the cinema to see this masterpiece. Usually a trip to the cinema involved the whole family, but it was just us, this one, single time. And as a person who literally despised sci-fi movies, she loved every minute of it and cheered with the rest of the crowd. Guility pleasure - no, a cherished memory for me ;)
thats touching, man. thanks for sharing. may your mom rest in piece, she's in thoughts (albeit momentarily) of a complete stranger on earth, thinking of you and her sharing this sweet moment.
I remember seeing this in theaters on July 4th, because I begged my uncle to take me. What a wonderful memory that was. Thank you, Drinker, for helping to bring it back!
I loved this movie, for 1996 the effects were spectacular.
This, Stargate, The Mummy: The late 90s were a great time for fun movies.
yeah Stargate was also much better than it looked like
When you look at it, the mid-70's through the late 90's was a period where Hollywood was making memorable movies at every level. I think it's because even a lot of the low budget stuff had memorable characters and dialog. Think of how little that's really quotable or memorable has come out in the last 15 years. Hugely successful movies have added very little to the pop culture landscape.
The Mummy...man, Brendan Fraser is soooooooo good!
@@aaronseidl5941 Oh, I hate mummies!
This movie is a true masterpiece. A stupid, silly, crowd pleasing masterpiece. And I love the hell out of it.
yes we know you're Critical Drunker fan and you eat anythink he says, good boy
@@szymonklimann3184 condescending comment and an omni man picture. We got a bonafied edge lord over here
@@szymonklimann3184 it's takes a special kind of triggered child to stalk someone via RUclips comments. I'm not sure if I should feel pride, or have pity.
@@ZPositive he doesn't seem like he knows what the fuck he's talking about, though. Maybe you should be disgusted.
Always loved this film whether drinker likes it or not. But I always knew the drinker would like it aswell
absolutely right about watching this every time it comes on tv.. and there's no real spot in the movie I find myself fastforwarding through even though i've seen the movie dozens of times
This movie sold out every show for weeks at the local theatre when it came out. What’s funny is that there’s really nothing new in it, but it’s all executed so well that you couldn’t help but want to see it again the moment it ended. It’s corny and cliche in so many ways that it actually made me smile not only at how openly manipulative it is, but that the manipulation is so effective. The dog jumping out of the explosion is the perfect encapsulation of the entire thing: You want to roll your eyes, but end up cheering, instead. Love this movie.
The spectacle is undeniable for pure entertainment.
We all knew the sequel would be garbage after finding out Will Smith wouldn't be returning. Not to mention, they didn't even make a statue of Russell Casse, despite him sacrificing his life to save humanity.
Do we know why Will Smith never returned? Was he too busy making After Earth or something?
the fact that Russell didn't got a statue still pisses me of.
@@Edax_Royeaux pretty sure it was him making the glorious after earth instead
He did get a statue. Some activists tore it down.
@@rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303 aliens live matter he was an oppressor
Whenever someone asks “what’s your favorite movie” I answer “Independence Day” with zero hesitation
I’m a simple man who simply loves this movie
It has one of the best all around first acts I've ever seen in a movie. I love the slow acceleration and the sense of impending doom.
I want to answer "star wars" whenever I hear that, but then I remember that most plebs will think Im talking about the brand and not the 1977 movie... So I usually just go for empire strikes back.
TimeWarpDrive 77 that’s a fair assumption...you could add the A New Hope bit though 🤔
Empire’s my favorite to be honest. One of the very few sequels to outshine its predecessor (IMO). But the Original is timeless.
@@roldyrs3409 I hate saying A new hope.. Cause that isn't what it was called and ANH(essentially the edited version) is not really the version I like.
And pretty much agree with the second bit..
TimeWarpDrive 77 I completely understand that sentiment. I still have the OT on VHS before the CGI bits were added. The original cuts should have remained the only cuts.
My favorite movie of all time. It does literally everything right. An often-overlooked reason is the sheer level of the threat. The villain couldn't be negotiated with, couldn't be fought, it just wiped out billions of people in a heartbeat. I'd disagree that it isn't high art, it was executed perfectly.
Fun Fact: they originally filmed a slightly different climax. The drunk dad who saved the day was originally rejected when they asked for pilot volunteers. So he steals a missile, straps it to his biplane, and flies that into the city ship to destroy it at the end.
They decided that was too ridiculous so all the external shots of the biplane from the final battle were replaced with an F18 and they recorded new in-cockpit footage of him, as well as the scene where the Air Force trainer asks for his background, months after they had wrapped second unit photography. That's why the flight path of his F18 seems so weird. Also, half of his lines during the air battle (and literally everyone else's) were unchanged from the original ending.
“They won’t make them like this anymore”
@Epicword I laughed properly, comment of the year.
@Epicword Probably I doubt a film like this could be made again because it would be seen as racist and anti alien.
@Epicword Didn't they do that with The Day the Earth Stood Still? The original movie was a cautionary tale about aliens trying to stop the devastation that would result from potential nuclear war... and when they remade the movie in 2008 it became "humans are destroying the earth" with a climate kind of angle instead.
Sad but true...
@Epicword who is the aliens you said?hahaha
Seriously, Will Smith saying "Welcome to Earth" after punching the alien in the face is perfect, and right on brand for humanity.
I remember seeing this in the cinema in Glasgow. The audience were lifting the roof, especially at the speech.
There is a timeline where Hollywood realizes its mistakes and makes one hell of come back. Astonishing audiences who now have the benefit of remembering how bad things got.
Unfortunately, it is not ours.
God damn, I want to live in a timeline like that
Anyone who tells a story shouldn't dismiss this movie. They need to study it, because despite whatever you think, the movie works. When you see the dog avoid a nuclear firestorm by turning left, and you cheer, you must ask yourself "how the hell did they make me do that?"
Find that answer, and you're on your way to being a master storyteller.
That sounds remarkably like a Peterson quote. Nice.
id argue based on first hand accounts of hiroshima and nagasaki survivors that its very plausible, barefoot gen is a historical piece written by a man who was 6 at the time, he witnessed the bomb go off at hiroshima, so the story he wrote based on what happened to him may be one of the most accurate depictions of what happens. its kinda like how hacksaw ridge cuts out like half the true story because people wouldnt believe everything that happened there. Tsutomu Yamaguchi was in both bombings and is the only officially recognized person to have survived both and the things hes said line up with everyone elses accounts
But what about Boomer!?
Independence Day, Men in Black, Armageddon, Jurassic Park, Terminator 2, Godzilla, Starship Troopers, Deep impact, Event Horizon, Dark City, Virus, Mars Attacks, The Fifth Element, Wild Wild West... Damn! Miss the 90's so much
the mummy
@@hoze1235 I rented VHS tape one weekend and watched 3 times!
Hot damn, event horizon is an apex disturbing MASTERPIECE
TWISTER
Gawd those were real classics. I miss those simple days..
Got this saved to watch 8 or 12 more times just to hear the Drinker chant USA USA USA... it's infectious happy and amazingly patriotic🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
6:05 “where else can you watch Will Smith punching an alien right in the face before lighting up a cigar to celebrate?”
The 2022 Oscar ceremony?
I saw this movie the day that it premiered: July 2, 1996. The whole theater was in awe. Independence Day is a classic blockbuster. It's so good that the sequel can't ruin it's legacy (though it tried very hard to do so).
I was 13, my parents let me walk downtown to the theaters to watch this with a friend. He kept asking if I had seen the trailers for ID4... I had no clue what he was talking about. I went in blind and loved every minute of it. Our theater also cheered at the speech too.
What is this "sequel" you speak of? :)
I worked at a movie theater when this came out, so as an employee, we were able to pre-screen it. Most of the time, only the managers did those (it was a requirement just to be sure the projectionists had spliced the sections together properly), but in this instance, pretty much the entire staff came in, and we weren't disappointed. Everyone went absolutely bonkers, especially during Will Smith's cat-and-mouse plane chase with the aliens through the canyon, and we knew it was going to be a massive, long-running hit.
I waited twenty years and the first clue was that it didn't come out on Independence Day.
"Independence Day", "Braveheart" and "Gladiator", the trinity of epicness from that period, in my opinion.
Mine are Gladiator, Last Samurai, Matrix, 300 and, oddly, Shaolin Soccer. But I can get behind yours, too.
Also Armageddon
Gladiator is so good it's almost illegal.
Mine used to be "Independence day, Daylight and Volcano"
"No Where, Thats Where!"... must be funniest part of this review. I was in tears 😂
This is the best review I've ever seen of ID. This is exactly how I feel about this film.
*ID4!!!!!
@@abehambino I hope I can be forgiven for missing the 4 😂
It is not a guilty pleasure I'd argue. To quote Honest Trailers: "Back when Summer Blockbusters was light and campy, [as opposed to now] when they're dark and Nolany".
the good old days when the point of a movie was to entertain you for a few hours instead of beat you over the head with the screen writer's shallow understanding of current year politics....
@@petriew2018 then why can't drinker understand that with GvK I swear he flipflops so much.
@@jfoster8624 Between the two of you, Drinker isn't the one with the uptake issues.
@@markusfreund6961 you acting like I was comparing myself to him and pray tell why you say that I'm not wrong he has a guilty pleasure in this movie but can't accept that with fans of GvK calling it just like this movie seems hypocritical to me.
Basically describes Zack Snyder’s edgy films.
This movie is a masterpiece in so many levels. It's script writing perfection. Character writing perfection. Tone is perfect throughout the whole movie. Fun is off the roof. Casting is amazing. There is not a single scene that doesn't move the plot forward or that doesn't serve as character growth, meaning there is not a single boring scene in the whole flick. Every time I watch it I like it more. I can't really think of another movie so perfect in every way like this other than Die Hard.
will smith punching an alien and saying "welcome to earth "
Looking back on this movie, I really wish Roland Emmerich could produce and direct a Star Wars movie. Yeah, some may laugh, but he'd do a damn better job than the recent Disney SW efforts.
@@evertonporter7887 that might hold true if his career had several ID4's. But look at the rest of his filmography (aside from Stargate) and you will think twice about that.
I would say that the virus solution was the absolute opposite of "script writing perfection" due to the completely impossible implausibility of it. I still rank that as one of the worst script writing failures in movie history just because of how easy it would have been to actually research what a computer virus is and how it works, realise that that solution is just way too unrealistic to even be considered a possiblity, especially with the short time frame they had to study the working alien technology, and just come up with something else that could actually work for real instead. But still a good movie overall!
This was in 1996 though. Less than 1% of the world had internet. Jeff Goldblum words were gospel to my ears.
I watched this movie so many times when we got it on VHS that I had alien invasion dreams for months.
One of the few movies I have watched multiple times. When I first watched it in the cinema, it blew me away. I wanted to go back and watch it again. Got to remember, in 1996, the visuals were out of this world (no pun intended)
Please Remember Good Folks,
“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.”
~Bill Murray
Why?
@@blackaf1s597 Because stupid people never know they are wrong. And even when they loose an argument, they believe they won.
@@kopicat2429 No, but wha's it got to do with the movie?
@@kopicat2429
Twitter in a nutshell.
So if I win against a smart person, does that make me the idiot?
That moment when drunk-guy sacrifices himself with his son watching still brings a tear to my eye, as well as, 'Is Mommy sleeping?'
I wish they had kept the bi plane version. You can see the alternate ending if you have a search around RUclips.
Watched it again with my wife on July 4th. This movie still keeps giving almost 30 years later.
I love Independence Day.
It is what it is, and it doesn’t pretend to be anything else.
The entire cinema roared with laughter when the drunk pilot said ".. and ever since I was abducted I've been dying for some payback!" Best line ever.
"you punched the PRESIDENT? ... G-d."
'UP YYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURRRRRSSSSSSSSSSS'
@@zimriel
"Yeah well I didn't punch him.... he punched.... me...."
His character was anal-probed. He got payback by flying his jet up the ass of the mothership. That was one of my favorite setups of the whole movie and hardly anybody gets it.
@@theoparke Dude even says "UP YOOOOOUUUUUUUURS" in return.
I was 13 when this movie came out and it was like the greatest theater experience of my life. F everybody who pretends this movie isn’t awesome!
Yep... I was 14 when this came out and had the honor to see the first screening in the city I used to live in. Everybody in the theater was so engrossed in the film that it truly felt like everybody was connected for a couple hours. When it was over, it was the most amazing feeling to know that every person that was in there shared the same experience at the same moment in time and that it would be forever engraved in our memories. Now a days, it feels like nobody can be on the same page as another without spouting up some sort of opinion to ruin the moment. Those were the good ol days, and I am glad to have been a part of it, no matter how short of a time that small spark was lit, it truly was an amazing time to be alive.
You absolutely NAILED that review!! Spot on!
The most American film ever made by a German director w/ the most star-spangled score by a Brit.
BTW, Bad Boys (1995) was actually Will Smith's first blockbuster.
And don't forget "The Patriot"
The most American film ever with an Australian lead and German director. Also, Christopher Nolan's dark Knight trilogy is more American than most other comic book adaptions (imo)
@@davyboy9397 Captain America: "So I took that personally."
@@shiranuiaensland1442 pity how woke marvel is becoming these days....
@@davyboy9397 Marvel has always been woke. X-Men being the prime example going back several decades.
Bad Boys (which is so effin' good btw) turned him from fresh prince to legit leading man, ID4 turned him into a star
*The President's speech made me proud to be an American.*
*And I'm not even American.*
lmao
The national anthem started playing in my house randomly
Hahahaha
@@sebastiaan805 Precies, ja.
Same man and i'm german.
This Movie is a God Damn American Treasure, it isn't no 'Guilty Pleasures'.
Shame it never got a sequel.
Shame it got....
@@piotrd.4850 No...it didn't
ISWYDT
I like the way you think. Have you seen "Matrix"? There's another classic that should have been expanded into a trilogy but tragically it never happened.
And what about that The Fast and The Furious movie?
I smell franchise potential there but it's a shame it never got past the original film.
I remember seeing this in the theater and when it was done everyone stood and cheered and clapped.
One of my absolute favorite popcorn flicks. Saw it in the theater with my dad. The entire theater cheered loudly at points.
I used to believe the 4th of July is our independence day for the first 6 years of my life because of this movie. I'm from India.
I have a question for you... I just watched slumdog millionaire for the first time and I'm curious if it was an accurate portrayal of India?
"I been sayin it... I been saying it for TEN DAMN YEARS! Ain't I been saying it Miguel? HUH!!! I BEEN SAYIN IT!"
You mean Frank the bunny?
@@deadreckoner5276 "why do you wear that stupid alien suit?"
"Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?"
Looks like those evil aliens conquered Hollywood after all.
Bill Pullman is a hidden gem of an actor while you were sleeping is a classic romcom but Independence Day will always shine through with his best role. I did like how he was portrayed as the perfect president. His reservations and doubts about his own decisions and authority, stemmed from a much needed reverence due to being president and the need to remember power lies in the hands of the people. But when disaster struck, he realize everyone would look to him, not simply as a representative, but as a true leader, needing the war hero to shine through once more.