I have 2 PW's. More importantly years of snow driving experience. Here are tips I'm giving to you. 3-400 lbs of weight in the bed. Cinder blocks or bags of sand. 4 high for your transfer case in mud or snow.. 4 low is for steep climbing or pulling. Put some pedal in that truck. It's not a Prius. Momentum is everything hence never 4 low. The low gearing is breaking traction at a slow pace.
From a fellow power wagon owner..You don’t back the heavy end of a truck down the incline.. same for any truck. Much harder to back up it. 60-70% of your traction is on the front wheels. Iv learned that the hard way myself.
I'm glad you got out. I want to give you two pieces of advice though. When you want to shift in deep snow or mud press the brake peddle down with your left foot, come to a complete stop and then shift from either forward to reverse. When you are in the gear of the direction you want to go, place your right foot on the accelerator and gently depress it while simultaneously lifting your left foot off the brake. What you want to be able to do is build some momentum while under throttle but not to spin. That two inches of travel is massive for being able to move, keep traction, build momentum, and even accelerate. All while not spinning. Another thing, don't turn your wheels when not moving. Especially when you're already spinning. You got away with a ton here. No offense, but the only reason you did was because of the lockers. That was some really heavy, packing, snow that loads up your tires. Another thing is, keep your air pressure high in snow. You want to be able to bite through as much as you can. You don't want to float on top of it, like you would do in sand or mud. Good luck, wheeling. I really appreciate how much work you put into the vid.
I also have a dually we put on the winter snow tires on, have chains if needed still in canvas sack they came in never used yet, it's all about your snow tire we run a 275x60x20 aired to 80 pounds in front 100 on rears we never air down going into snow sand yes, but never in snow our tires are 10 inches wide never ever had a problem with a deep lug snow tire sure they are a little noise going down a dry road, just turn up the stereo a little more
Great video my man! As a fellow wagon owner I know the struggles of trying to turn an 8000lb 21 foot truck around on a tight forrest trail. Great job! Harrison is always a great place to explore, keep the vids coming!
We generally have deeper snow here in the woods, so digging down leaves you stuck badly high centered. Been there before with my son's truck and we got home only because some random dude was as crazy as us to go that deep, thanks though. The problem was exactly that - we had skinny fully inflated tires and dug down deep enough to suspend ourselves on the frame with all four wheels freely spinning in the air. In shallow snot it totally would have worked fine. In this episode it is not all that deep so it may have worked better with fully inflated tires. Thanks.
those little 33's from the factory are the worst tires I ever driven on. Super slippery in snow and rain. after 10k miles they are horrible on all surfaces. when tires wear their traction characteristics change. Mickey Thompson and cooper sst have the best wear characteristics of any all terrain I've used. They stay grippy for their entire tread life. Makes all the difference
In this episode it is not so much tires than snow condition. When snow is wet and sticky no tire can help much unless you go really big and MT may be. I was generally quite happy with my Duratracks they served me well for 2 years (28K km) until I punctured same tire twice. I swapped to Cooper Discoverer XLT AT3 now and a bit bigger size 315x70x17 which is as big as you can fit in stock spare wheel location.
Do you have traction boards? I guess you would've used them if you did. I'm definitely going to invest in some. You also want to ensure that the traction control is turned off when in 4WD.
I am a little skeptical about those plastic traction boards for my PW. I have seen those boards snapping like cookies under this weight, they are more suitable for lightweight Jeeps and Tacomas. Also I am not trying to get stuck too often so not sure if it would be a worth investment. Worst case I would have to spend a few hours shoveling. I always have a shovel with me.
If you are going I need to drive the back roads in snow and mud you should have Mud and Snow tires not all terrain with all terrain you have four slicks, I grew up in montana and Wyoming now we have lots of snow, that's when we change our tires with the looking of snow, sure they maybe loud on bate highway or roads, but when we hot snow we don't get stuck so get some mud and snows for driving in snow
Glad you were able to get out. Might I suggest starting your turn around in reverse. That way if you get stuck, you can use the winch to pull you back onto the road.
Not much farther, chains do not help much in slushy melting and deep snow. One thing people often do not realize is that snow can be very different depending on temperature, air humidity, altitude, seasonal weather conditions, angle of sun shining on it, etc. That kind of stuff you only learn if you are experienced skier or snowboarder or otherwise spend significant amount of time in snowy conditions over many seasons in different places.
We owned a 2017 and a few days ago i just bought a 2021 powerwagon the 2017 does that alot when your in the deep snow and struggling otherwise not much
I have a lots of stuff laying around in all the cup holders and glove boxes which does add some extra noise. The loudest you hear in the video actually is heater fan it just happens to blow right into camera microphone. Squeaks are from center console which in big piece of plastic covering transfer case shifter and blocking foot space for middle passenger in my model. Others come without it, but I like 3 extra cup holders. May need to address the squeaks though when they get too annoying.
I just dropped my tire size back down to factory... 😥 I'm typically running my 35" @ 30-35 for trail riding. Highway 40 unless I'm hauling something then I max. I think we could get away with 25 but I just don't need that much rubber touching the ground on most trails
On the internet I keep hearing about issues like this facing the 6.4 L Hemi. ruclips.net/video/ScqUwzT71gY/видео.html I really like the power wagon but I am cautious to buy a vehicle if it has a flawed power plant. What are your thoughts?
I personally never had any engine issues with HEMI and I have owned 3 HEMIs so far, the oldest was 2013 5.7, then 2017 5.7 and this one is 2018 6.4. But I have not had a whole lot of mileage on either of them, so I can not really comment on what happens if you are grinding them for work every day.
Never understood why people air down their tires in snow. Dropping the pressure is meant for sand and topsoil to prevent the tires from digging in. In heavy snow, you want narrower tires to cut down to the base and to prevent your tires from pushing the snow. I had a Chevy regular cab that came with 225's on it and remember going hunting in snow so deep that it covered the hood and yet that truck carved a 4 foot deep path through and got me home, never got stuck once.
Potentially in light as air powder. Most definitely not in snow like this. This is some heavy packing snow. You wouldn't even budge in this if it was 4' deep.
those small tires will never crate enough surface area to float that heavy truck over the snow. You could air down with much larger tires. This truck is too heavy to benefit from airing down in thick snow. tall skinnies in wet packing snow all day.
Fun stuff indeed, but that was a terrible turn around with the power wagon. I would probably have done the same pussy moves to get out, due to the distance to get back home. FYI. In the winter time i always carry at least 400 lbs dead weight in the back. It will improve traction, stability, and momentum.
Yeh, I was extra cautious after I got stuck first time, that snow was melting from bottom under the frozen crust on top. Other time I met a couple who had to camp over night until some wheelers pulled them out on a next day afternoon in the same area.
I have 2 PW's. More importantly years of snow driving experience. Here are tips I'm giving to you.
3-400 lbs of weight in the bed. Cinder blocks or bags of sand.
4 high for your transfer case in mud or snow.. 4 low is for steep climbing or pulling.
Put some pedal in that truck. It's not a Prius. Momentum is everything hence never 4 low. The low gearing is breaking traction at a slow pace.
From a fellow power wagon owner..You don’t back the heavy end of a truck down the incline.. same for any truck. Much harder to back up it. 60-70% of your traction is on the front wheels. Iv learned that the hard way myself.
I'm glad you got out. I want to give you two pieces of advice though. When you want to shift in deep snow or mud press the brake peddle down with your left foot, come to a complete stop and then shift from either forward to reverse. When you are in the gear of the direction you want to go, place your right foot on the accelerator and gently depress it while simultaneously lifting your left foot off the brake. What you want to be able to do is build some momentum while under throttle but not to spin. That two inches of travel is massive for being able to move, keep traction, build momentum, and even accelerate. All while not spinning. Another thing, don't turn your wheels when not moving. Especially when you're already spinning. You got away with a ton here. No offense, but the only reason you did was because of the lockers. That was some really heavy, packing, snow that loads up your tires. Another thing is, keep your air pressure high in snow. You want to be able to bite through as much as you can. You don't want to float on top of it, like you would do in sand or mud. Good luck, wheeling. I really appreciate how much work you put into the vid.
I appreciate all the effort you take to get all those shots! You inspire me to take my wagon out on more adventures!
I also have a dually we put on the winter snow tires on, have chains if needed still in canvas sack they came in never used yet, it's all about your snow tire we run a 275x60x20 aired to 80 pounds in front 100 on rears we never air down going into snow sand yes, but never in snow our tires are 10 inches wide never ever had a problem with a deep lug snow tire sure they are a little noise going down a dry road, just turn up the stereo a little more
I'm so glad I got the color I did. Seeing it again in your video is definitely cool 😎
Love the scenery and the wagon!
Damn man beautiful shots that take a lot of effort! Thank you!
Thanks, keeps me fit, lol.
Great video my man! As a fellow wagon owner I know the struggles of trying to turn an 8000lb 21 foot truck around on a tight forrest trail. Great job! Harrison is always a great place to explore, keep the vids coming!
Yes, on camera it does not look as narrow as it is in real life. Working on more vids. Thanks.
If my 4 door dually is 21ft then that short bed definitely isn’t. Maybe 19ft
I live in North Dakota and feel that airing down in snow is counter productive. You want to dig down to the ground, not float over the snow.
We generally have deeper snow here in the woods, so digging down leaves you stuck badly high centered. Been there before with my son's truck and we got home only because some random dude was as crazy as us to go that deep, thanks though. The problem was exactly that - we had skinny fully inflated tires and dug down deep enough to suspend ourselves on the frame with all four wheels freely spinning in the air. In shallow snot it totally would have worked fine.
In this episode it is not all that deep so it may have worked better with fully inflated tires. Thanks.
Nice 80 point turn 👍🏻
Scenery is stunning! Well done.
, where is this place
I have a 2019 and can't wait to get it up on the mountains!
Nice, I would love to have that 8 speed transmission I had in my Rebel before. I am sure you will have fun.
excellent vid!...enjoy being with,glad you invited us😍👍❗
Glad you enjoyed
those little 33's from the factory are the worst tires I ever driven on. Super slippery in snow and rain. after 10k miles they are horrible on all surfaces. when tires wear their traction characteristics change. Mickey Thompson and cooper sst have the best wear characteristics of any all terrain I've used. They stay grippy for their entire tread life. Makes all the difference
In this episode it is not so much tires than snow condition. When snow is wet and sticky no tire can help much unless you go really big and MT may be. I was generally quite happy with my Duratracks they served me well for 2 years (28K km) until I punctured same tire twice. I swapped to Cooper Discoverer XLT AT3 now and a bit bigger size 315x70x17 which is as big as you can fit in stock spare wheel location.
Super dope bro
Thanks
Do you have traction boards? I guess you would've used them if you did. I'm definitely going to invest in some. You also want to ensure that the traction control is turned off when in 4WD.
I am a little skeptical about those plastic traction boards for my PW. I have seen those boards snapping like cookies under this weight, they are more suitable for lightweight Jeeps and Tacomas. Also I am not trying to get stuck too often so not sure if it would be a worth investment. Worst case I would have to spend a few hours shoveling. I always have a shovel with me.
Great video by the way!
Thanks!
If you are going I need to drive the back roads in snow and mud you should have Mud and Snow tires not all terrain with all terrain you have four slicks, I grew up in montana and Wyoming now we have lots of snow, that's when we change our tires with the looking of snow, sure they maybe loud on bate highway or roads, but when we hot snow we don't get stuck so get some mud and snows for driving in snow
Glad you were able to get out. Might I suggest starting your turn around in reverse. That way if you get stuck, you can use the winch to pull you back onto the road.
Good idea, thanks
I wonder how far you could have gotten with Chains on your tires?
Not much farther, chains do not help much in slushy melting and deep snow. One thing people often do not realize is that snow can be very different depending on temperature, air humidity, altitude, seasonal weather conditions, angle of sun shining on it, etc. That kind of stuff you only learn if you are experienced skier or snowboarder or otherwise spend significant amount of time in snowy conditions over many seasons in different places.
Are powerwagons typically that noisy in the interior? Lots of squeaks and rattles.
We owned a 2017 and a few days ago i just bought a 2021 powerwagon the 2017 does that alot when your in the deep snow and struggling otherwise not much
I have a lots of stuff laying around in all the cup holders and glove boxes which does add some extra noise. The loudest you hear in the video actually is heater fan it just happens to blow right into camera microphone. Squeaks are from center console which in big piece of plastic covering transfer case shifter and blocking foot space for middle passenger in my model. Others come without it, but I like 3 extra cup holders. May need to address the squeaks though when they get too annoying.
Weight doesn’t matter you’re running too much tire pressure 10 to 15 psi is best for snow even lower for bead locks
carry a set of tire chains in my pw. they turn my power wagon into a tank.
I just dropped my tire size back down to factory... 😥 I'm typically running my 35" @ 30-35 for trail riding. Highway 40 unless I'm hauling something then I max. I think we could get away with 25 but I just don't need that much rubber touching the ground on most trails
On the internet I keep hearing about issues like this facing the 6.4 L Hemi. ruclips.net/video/ScqUwzT71gY/видео.html
I really like the power wagon but I am cautious to buy a vehicle if it has a flawed power plant. What are your thoughts?
I personally never had any engine issues with HEMI and I have owned 3 HEMIs so far, the oldest was 2013 5.7, then 2017 5.7 and this one is 2018 6.4. But I have not had a whole lot of mileage on either of them, so I can not really comment on what happens if you are grinding them for work every day.
Never understood why people air down their tires in snow. Dropping the pressure is meant for sand and topsoil to prevent the tires from digging in. In heavy snow, you want narrower tires to cut down to the base and to prevent your tires from pushing the snow. I had a Chevy regular cab that came with 225's on it and remember going hunting in snow so deep that it covered the hood and yet that truck carved a 4 foot deep path through and got me home, never got stuck once.
WTF?... no.
Potentially in light as air powder. Most definitely not in snow like this. This is some heavy packing snow. You wouldn't even budge in this if it was 4' deep.
those small tires will never crate enough surface area to float that heavy truck over the snow. You could air down with much larger tires. This truck is too heavy to benefit from airing down in thick snow. tall skinnies in wet packing snow all day.
Fun stuff indeed, but that was a terrible turn around with the power wagon. I would probably have done the same pussy moves to get out, due to the distance to get back home. FYI. In the winter time i always carry at least 400 lbs dead weight in the back. It will improve traction, stability, and momentum.
Yeh, I was extra cautious after I got stuck first time, that snow was melting from bottom under the frozen crust on top. Other time I met a couple who had to camp over night until some wheelers pulled them out on a next day afternoon in the same area.
@@weekendoutdooradventures always nose in toward trees, back into the open. That water you can winch forward back to road.
way not water...
you should never turn the wheel all the way in 4x4
Power wagon just doesn't grip well in off road terrain . Wheels always spinning
Gotta have them big tires
Learn how to drive instead of slamming trans in and out of forward and reverse
ROOKIE!!!!!! 4LO and slow!!!!!WATCH JEEP JK VIDEOS ON HOW WE GO FARVIN DEEP SNOW NOT PACKED SNOW AND GET STUCK!
Try HD truck in wet snow and see how it goes! Thanks for feedback.
Yes very comparable, 7000 pound truck vs 4500 pound jeep.
U know nothing of the snow?
Super dope bro