Me vs. Ben Finegold: Ben lived in Michigan. I lived in Michigan (college in Flint) Ben lived in Belgium. I've been to Belgium. Ben is a grand master. I like pizza.
just imagine that Ben is perpetually eating pizza. while he talks, while he analyzes, while he moves the pieces on the analysis board, everything. Even when hes not eating pizza. everything he says will suddenly make so much more sense.
Great lecture as always. Can't fall asleep with Ben's commentary. Entertaining and informative. the best way to remember a lecture. now if I can just remember all this for my games.
Holy shit! Iskandar went to my high school. I remember how he would win chess tournaments like the state chess tournament. Crazy to see him mentioned in a video series I watch so much.
amazing simpson`s reference, I think that was from season 2. old quote! Lisa Simpson:" Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you are referring to a pawn."
30:00 after Black playing Rb8, can white play Rxg4? if black plays hxg4 then Nd7 works as it is equal material and the a pawn woulod be hanging, so it works for white anyway. I am not sure because I haven't got a computer engine to analyse this. Any suggestions? I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance and thanks Ben , you are the best teacher ever.
Okay, here is a perfect example of something I always wonder about.At 13:42, if the knight on f2 was somewhere else, say h3, would black come out better to play 1....Nxe4 2.Bxe4 Nxc4+ 3.Kc3 Nxa3. I know that white can play Rxc4, but not only does that look bad for white, it is besides my point. Are the 3 pawns worth the night? You leave white with anisolated d pawn, and black has 3 passed pawns.
31:36 after Rb8 white to move Rxg4 if (gxf4 Nd7 Ra8 Nxf8 Kxf8 white slightly better) else (Rxb6 Rd4 white slightly better) though this line is tricky with time trouble because the game will require a lot of moves.
It's the season 2 episode "Dead Putting Society" Its just a line in the episode, its about Homer and Flanders getting competitive over a mini golf tourney.
Josephus Mutzenbacher Bart: Hey, Lis, what do you call those guys in chess that don't matter?Lisa: Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you're referring to a pawn.Bart: Right, I am a pawn.Lisa: I know. It's times like this I'm thankful that Dad has little to no interest in almost everything I do.
@@baoboumusic my joke was that Kasparov got crushed in that game with useless bishops, although the light square bishop was on e8, not c8. Probably the worst Kasparov has ever been beaten.
@@12jswilson I'd forgotten about that! Be8 was an admission of failure - must have been painful to play. I definitely do remember the tournament though. Chukkie's best result ever. Beat Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand... It looked like the end of the Kasparov era and the start of a new era - it wasn't quite that but his achievement was one for the ages.
@@baoboumusic playing Be8 and Bd8 is fine if you're just rerouting them a la Yasser. If they stay there and never move, I'm betting on the other guy. I don't care if you are arguably the greatest player to ever live.
Jeff Stelling No, that’s not the problem. The real reason why Be2 doesn’t work is because of Nd7 forking both Black rooks now that d7 is crucially undefended by the Bishop. It actually took me a moment to find that too because I knew that if Rd2 in response to Be2, then black would just move the bishop to b5 (which led to me finding Nd7 responding to Bb5 which led to me seeing that the Knight could go to d7 immediately instead of the useless in-between move Rd2). It’s a little sad too, because Be2 just looks so cool to play as it stops both Rc4 and Rook A takes a6 with a very invasive looking minor piece move. :p
Someone please put out of my misery as I cant find the mate 45 minutes in when g2 x f3. If white defends with his Q he seems to end up with a solid defence and a good queen sided attack supported by the knight. Ben says its mate and he is never wrong but I cant see it!! E.g. g2 x f3, Rg8; Qb4 Qg7; Qe1. Doesnt that stop the mate? Even if black gets a rook to g2 cant white just ignore it? White maybe needs the Q on d1 to cover the knight sacrifice and he can just sit it out while he pushes his Queen side pawns supported by the knight. All black's pieces are now tied up out of the game. What move have I missed for Black? I've been looking for ages and its driving me nuts. Loving your lectures Mr Finegold and you are slowly draggin me out of retirement. Thanks.
29:43 anyone know why the knight is the only defense for A6? Ben says it's the only thing that defends A6.... what about rook A8 or Bishop E2? EDIT: ok maybe not rook to A8.... whoops ;D Also, bishop E2 would stop his rook to C4.... I must be missing something, there is no way that's too sneaky for ben to see, and I'm sure he's analyzed it with the computer.
VulpineShine I wonder if after ...Rb8 (attacking the white knight on b6) Rxb4 is good for White - if axb4 then the knight on b6 can jump to d7, forking the black rooks and if ...Rxb6 the white Rook can move back to d4 or c4.
@@tellahsage6477there's a funny game between Emory Tate and Ben where Ben crushes him with the black pieces in about 20 moves. I want to say it was in ~2004. But yeah Emory Tate is probably one of the most notable chess players to never become a grandmaster, at least in the US.
Can you please provide the pgns for your avanced game analysis at the st. Louis chess club especially the game that appears the 10:34 ticker in the 50 minute video. It lcooks like an mirrored tit for tat stonwall defense. What is the opening called. Another chess player on RUclips from the midwest 3jbenett on lichess is alsoan otb chess player at his checlub & regional tournament play. He gives live commentary durig his matches about his moves as well as his opponents He can tell within a few moves that is sicilian dragon variation, which openigs start out as a queen gambit accepted orva queen gambit declined. In the live game he seems to know on thevfly. This opebing becoms transposed into another opening with movinh a certain piece or a combination of moves. He suggested that I get modern chess openings by waler korn. Modern chess openings a blue book. They have openingsvwith a table showing a myriad of subsequent moves. The last book i bought in this vein was fundamental chess openings. I have fritz 15 &16. Ibwould love an app that has the counter noves to;the sicilian, kings Indian etc
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Me vs. Ben Finegold: Ben lived in Michigan. I lived in Michigan (college in Flint) Ben lived in Belgium. I've been to Belgium. Ben is a grand master. I like pizza.
lol
+The Business lol
The Business Ben also likes pizza
The Business the sicilian is his favourite pizza
Nice. :-> (Ben might like pizza too?)
Even grandmasters miss king to b2.
He's so deadpan it took me a second to realize he was joking about Houdini suggesting resignation.
+Matthew Helm Yeah, I don't think it ever suggests resignation haha.
Hilarious when he talks about resigning so much.
ben finegold - finding things "uh terrible" since 1969
34:51 "In 19... 87, I was playing in the New York Open against Jay Whitehead, rest in peace, and... (he was alive then, when he played me)"
46:42.
"What's the best defense for white?"
"Kb2 [from h1]."
"Yeah, I agree. That's probably the best defense." Hahaha
But your rook is hanging!
how am I just finding this guy? I like chess again now. Suspicious!
rawr!
Matthew Erickson very dubious
very
Just finding this guy? Terrible
Finegold is GOLD, the best.
more Ben pls !!!!
I love GM Finegold's Lectures. He is highly entertaining.
just imagine that Ben is perpetually eating pizza. while he talks, while he analyzes, while he moves the pieces on the analysis board, everything. Even when hes not eating pizza. everything he says will suddenly make so much more sense.
Great lecture as always. Can't fall asleep with Ben's commentary. Entertaining and informative. the best way to remember a lecture. now if I can just remember all this for my games.
Just wondering
Are you alive?
Paul Whitehead was actually my first chess teacher back in ~1999. Never thought I'd hear his name again!
i have to give credit to the kid who played the first game for holding out so long.
Lovable,educational,tremendously humoristic. :)
+Athenian888 Good, yes. Correct, yes. :-)
I've never even met this guy, but I love him
haha this guy is like a semi comedian
A draw by three repetitions of stalemate claim HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Genius!
😂😂😂😂😂
"I don't have any good moves. Doesn't that make it a stalemate?"
You are hilarious and awesome Ben! Keep it up brother.
First time I learned something looking at a fine gold lecture...
Ben, you are GREAT at breaking things down . Thank you!
Thank you Ben for your instructional masterpieces. I very much enjoy learning from you. Rarrr! :)
MORE BEN!!
Funny guy, I always find GM v's amateur games instructive. Thanks for the upload.
I adore you, Mr. Ben Finegold.
Holy shit! Iskandar went to my high school. I remember how he would win chess tournaments like the state chess tournament. Crazy to see him mentioned in a video series I watch so much.
Bens lecture are toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good
thank you very much, great lecture!
Smart chess teacher. Thanks for sharing
Ben Finegold the boss!!! Been listening pure Ben Finegold since day.
One of Ben's best.
Love this guy teachings and jokes😂😂
King to b2, lol. Thanks GM Finegold for another instructive and entertaining lecture and thanks to CCSC of Saint Louis as well.
Cracked me up. His response is so deadpan. 46:42 in case others want to find it
Awesome.
He played a move I expected, I couldn't believe it, that's deep
"Ahhh... I didn't see king F2!" I lost it completely, I laughed for 10 minutes.
amazing simpson`s reference, I think that was from season 2. old quote!
Lisa Simpson:" Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you are referring to a pawn."
Wait a minute! *I* miscalculate everything! Hooray! I think like a Grandmaster!
Love this guy!
This is very entertaining! And I also think I learned something :)
27:13 I have two bishops, two bishops and two bishops
Draw by three fold stalemate claim!!!
damn so happy to fnd more Ben Finegold lectures :) not quite as charming as him teaching a bunch of kids but just as entertaining and informative.
A half chess master and a half comedian. I like Ben!!
"Attack with all your pieces. And occasionally you should defend with some pieces too" -Ben Finegold
19:46 Ben Finegold discovered the wooden shield before QVC, he just stole his idea. I guess that's why Ben hates him.
lol qvc
ben has analyzed the first game before in the kids class.
Rotating GM! :D
30:00 after Black playing Rb8, can white play Rxg4? if black plays hxg4 then Nd7 works as it is equal material and the a pawn woulod be hanging, so it works for white anyway. I am not sure because I haven't got a computer engine to analyse this. Any suggestions? I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance and thanks Ben , you are the best teacher ever.
Okay, here is a perfect example of something I always wonder about.At 13:42, if the knight on f2 was somewhere else, say h3, would black come out better to play 1....Nxe4 2.Bxe4 Nxc4+ 3.Kc3 Nxa3. I know that white can play Rxc4, but not only does that look bad for white, it is besides my point. Are the 3 pawns worth the night? You leave white with anisolated d pawn, and black has 3 passed pawns.
Ben is great :)
best teacher
31:36 after Rb8 white to move Rxg4 if (gxf4 Nd7 Ra8 Nxf8 Kxf8 white slightly better) else (Rxb6 Rd4 white slightly better)
though this line is tricky with time trouble because the game will require a lot of moves.
19:35 wow forking two pinned pieces thats actually a new one for me
Can you do a video about austrian defense please?
It's so weird to hear "Let's call a random student" and not have it be followed up with "You!" or "Arjun!"
Good sense of humor :D
at 31:03, is it possible for white to go Rxg4 with a fork Nd7 in mind when hxg4?
@jmoneyy1984 Not if you played Rxg4 lol then there's no bishop defending d7
He plays rxb6
31:00 sequence. Did Ben overlook the fork on D7? Or am I missing something?
Bishop would just take the knight on D7.
Wait... There is a Simpsons Episode about chess and I haven't seen it?
What's the name of the episode?
It's the season 2 episode "Dead Putting Society" Its just a line in the episode, its about Homer and Flanders getting competitive over a mini golf tourney.
Josephus Mutzenbacher Bart: Hey, Lis, what do you call those guys in chess that don't matter?Lisa: Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you're referring to a pawn.Bart: Right, I am a pawn.Lisa: I know. It's times like this I'm thankful that Dad has little to no interest in almost everything I do.
You are awesome! Yes, it strokes your ego, but so what? You are awesome. I enjoyed this video very much, thanks man.
queen h4 is a good move because after rook to g2 queen can sack on h2 when rook takes back its mate on g1 with the rook
Ben is so funny, I love his tutorials
What is the program being used here, where you can make proposed moves, see the resulting position, then return to the original position?
Orange Betsy ChessBase!
"Kb2 is probably the best move, yeah" hahah
toelloev Super funny. Garenteed to keep you awake and in your chair(not in bed!)
Nice!
31 he said its a the correct move but what if knight went to D7 forking both castles
this guy rocks
This dude is hilarious!
Finegold channeling his inner Kasparov at 11:05 with Bd8 as in Ivanchuk v Kasparov, Linares 1991.
Seirawan has also played this in several games and calls it the billiards shot if I remember correctly: bishop to the bottom cushion.
@@baoboumusic my joke was that Kasparov got crushed in that game with useless bishops, although the light square bishop was on e8, not c8. Probably the worst Kasparov has ever been beaten.
@@12jswilson I'd forgotten about that! Be8 was an admission of failure - must have been painful to play.
I definitely do remember the tournament though. Chukkie's best result ever. Beat Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand... It looked like the end of the Kasparov era and the start of a new era - it wasn't quite that but his achievement was one for the ages.
@@baoboumusic playing Be8 and Bd8 is fine if you're just rerouting them a la Yasser. If they stay there and never move, I'm betting on the other guy. I don't care if you are arguably the greatest player to ever live.
f**k kb2 is such a good move... (cracks me up haha)
What is the story of Ken Wesley? 0:50
best gm
20:05 I think that’s called the dirty doubling doodler
At 31.11 what's wrong the bishop e2? That's the move I blurted out when he ask. Some.one correct me and show me why plz
Jeff Stelling No, that’s not the problem. The real reason why Be2 doesn’t work is because of Nd7 forking both Black rooks now that d7 is crucially undefended by the Bishop. It actually took me a moment to find that too because I knew that if Rd2 in response to Be2, then black would just move the bishop to b5 (which led to me finding Nd7 responding to Bb5 which led to me seeing that the Knight could go to d7 immediately instead of the useless in-between move Rd2).
It’s a little sad too, because Be2 just looks so cool to play as it stops both Rc4 and Rook A takes a6 with a very invasive looking minor piece move. :p
That's a beautiful position oh my god
what about defending the a pawn with bishop e2
at 43.57 instead of doubling rooks what if whit plays 1)N*e5 Q*e5, 2Nd7 .....forking rook and queen and then taking rook on f8
Someone please put out of my misery as I cant find the mate 45 minutes in when g2 x f3. If white defends with his Q he seems to end up with a solid defence and a good queen sided attack supported by the knight. Ben says its mate and he is never wrong but I cant see it!! E.g. g2 x f3, Rg8; Qb4 Qg7; Qe1. Doesnt that stop the mate? Even if black gets a rook to g2 cant white just ignore it? White maybe needs the Q on d1 to cover the knight sacrifice and he can just sit it out while he pushes his Queen side pawns supported by the knight. All black's pieces are now tied up out of the game. What move have I missed for Black? I've been looking for ages and its driving me nuts. Loving your lectures Mr Finegold and you are slowly draggin me out of retirement. Thanks.
This man is the Rodney Dangerfield of Chess
I’m sorry but what’s between KEN west and finegold? Any reason why he keeps picking on him?
Aren't those half open files instead of open files? Great video. Ben Finegold is the best, but he has never beaten me.
why because you haven't played him much?
mcpartridgeboy it's Carlson okay?
8:38 I take ur rook making a queen lool haha
‘Ah I missed Kf2’😂😂😂😂😂😂😭 like it was a refutation to the whole line
what is the name of the song in the intro?
29:43 anyone know why the knight is the only defense for A6? Ben says it's the only thing that defends A6.... what about rook A8 or Bishop E2?
EDIT: ok maybe not rook to A8.... whoops ;D
Also, bishop E2 would stop his rook to C4.... I must be missing something, there is no way that's too sneaky for ben to see, and I'm sure he's analyzed it with the computer.
Why are comments open on Ben's game but closed off on that foxy GM"s game?
"Women." Lol. Great instructive video trumped by comedic wit!
How do you find gold? With Benjamin’s
that pin was hilarious
Far out, some of these checkmates are so technical
at 31:30 why cant the knight go to D7 and attack both rooks?
bishop takes it
VulpineShine I wonder if after ...Rb8 (attacking the white knight on b6) Rxb4 is good for White - if axb4 then the knight on b6 can jump to d7, forking the black rooks and if ...Rxb6 the white Rook can move back to d4 or c4.
43:34 would rook takes h2 be a good move here?
No
He randomly mentions Andrew Tate's dad Emory 22:41
Emory Tate's a pretty famous player, most in chess know him. Saw his name mentioned in several books too
@@tellahsage6477there's a funny game between Emory Tate and Ben where Ben crushes him with the black pieces in about 20 moves. I want to say it was in ~2004. But yeah Emory Tate is probably one of the most notable chess players to never become a grandmaster, at least in the US.
Kinda felt with him, when he made the simpson joke.
fun vid
Can you please provide the pgns for your avanced game analysis at the st. Louis chess club especially the game that appears the 10:34 ticker in the 50 minute video. It lcooks like an mirrored tit for tat stonwall defense. What is the opening called. Another chess player on RUclips from the midwest 3jbenett on lichess is alsoan otb chess player at his checlub & regional tournament play. He gives live commentary durig his matches about his moves as well as his opponents
He can tell within a few moves that is sicilian dragon variation, which openigs start out as a queen gambit accepted orva queen gambit declined. In the live game he seems to know on thevfly. This opebing becoms transposed into another opening with movinh a certain piece or a combination of moves. He suggested that I get modern chess openings by waler korn. Modern chess openings a blue book. They have openingsvwith a table showing a myriad of subsequent moves. The last book i bought in this vein was fundamental chess openings. I have fritz 15 &16. Ibwould love an app that has the counter noves to;the sicilian, kings Indian etc
Thats me!
At 46:30, why not Rf1?
Because queen g2 is also mate..
Because after Qg2, checkmate gives black the advantage
@@lbright4568 Yes, guess you're not gonna come back after being checkmated! King b2 in the video really funny btw.
23:23 "..women", i spilled my milk
In parallel universe Ken East is a super GM