Childhood is thinking that Adam is the crazy scientist and Jamie is the cool, level-headed one. Adulthood is realizing that Jamie is the crazy scientist, and Adam was the level-headed one who was just really hype about everything.
Its fun to see Jamie going off-script and being joyful around people. I hate what production did to Jaime personality on the later half of the show run.
It's a shame they didn't consider body weight/fat % as a factor with temperature tolerance, a lot of the guys were quite lean looking, and that one who lasted to the limit was a large bloke.
While I 100% agree with you, I can understand why they didn’t/wouldn’t take it that far: that amount of testing might not have fit into the episode time limit, and extended testing may have discouraged the average viewer from watching the show... as a kid, I know I watched Mythbusters for the jaw dropping explosions and collisions, not the number crunching! It’s really only now, 15+ years after this episode aired on TV for me to see, that I enjoy seeing the theoretical side of the show as much as the explosions.
Alot of their experiments lack that scientific rigor, which is also something I realuze now that I'm alot older (and yes I know they did a show to entertain, still, just shouting "science, yeah!" is what leads to myths in the first place). This often starts with sample sizes and ends with accounting for different variables, especially when it came to myths relating to your average human. I'd just like to remind everyone about the episode where they tried to test vodka vs poison ivy and despite suppsoedly 80% of people showing a reaction, everyone in their team with the exception of one was pretty much immune.
@@JonatasAdoM Had to slow down the video to 0.25 speed to be able to decipher it 😂😂 About learning morse code, I don't think it's that hard. I watched the video from Vsauce, who has an interesting way of teaching morse, i really recommend it if you wanna learn morse code.
Wouldn't the testing on redheads be ruined by bias though? They were called in to prove redheads arent weak, which means they've got a reason to be tougher while the others would just see if they could take the pain
They didn’t tell the volunteers it was a pain test until they were in front of the chair. I’d bet the group shots of all the red heads wasn’t until after the test was done.
And I feel like the swearing test overlooked a thing: stress. The swearing is done to relieve that stress, so there would need to be a reference test with not saying anything and sitting still, and one with screaming and moving. Just to see if being able to vent stress improves.
Yeah, theyre also doing the same test twice, so they know what they're getting into and can handle it better. But its a science show, not a scientific study.
It gets skewed as soon as the participants know, that they were selected due to a specific trait. However, the sample sizes were small and the results were not tested for statistical significance anyways. And the hosts knew what they were testing for and interacted with the participants during the tests (and likely before as well). And there was no normalization of the data for other factors, not even important ones like age - which would correlate with child bearing in women. And factors which likely influence the behaviour and attitude were not eleminated. The participants were all looked after by men (and celebrities) and men and women might respond to that differently. It is difficult to get a sufficiently good design and the necessary sample sizes for this kind of experiments, even in serious scientific studies. But as presented here, the data does not allow for more conclusions then "there were no extreme and clear cut differences".
The feed tank will never explode but I give them 10/10 for safety. LPG needs oxygen to ignite and the mixture needs to be 100% correct or no flame. A LPG Canister just doesn't have enough oxygen inside, if any at all, to get the correct mix. The pressure from inside + The need for oxygen will just stop the flame near the nozzle. We have done safety drills for this. But beware! Some gasses don't need oxygen to burn! These gasses use what we call a flashback protector. Acetylene is one such gas. Just for reference....I have been working with LPG for 15years. If your LPG bottle has turned into a flamethrower. Put something protective over your hand and close the valve "quickly". Don't pick the canister up and take it outside. You will burn the whole place down. If the valve is jammed or you don't have hand protection. Use a wet towel to stop oxygen from getting to the valve and the flame will die out. Proceed to take the bottle outside and be careful not to burn your hands on a hot gas canister. Allow it to decompress for safety and bring it to your local gas supplier for inspection.
When the tank ruptured after the tank it became obvious that once a crack happened, it will just continue, because the entire tank is compromised and can't hold the pressure. But it would be easy to calculate how much thrust the thing needs to fly 150 ft. We just need the total weight and the pressure. From the pressure we can get the exhaust velocity, and from the weight we can get the density of gas. And from that we can get the amount venting out per second. The rest is [mass vented per second] x [speed of the exhaust] x [gravity] to get thrust in N And with thrust and weight we can know if it will lift off.
To burn you need oxidizer. Acetylene doesn't burn without oxygen, it undergoes explosive decomposition when pressurized. This decomposition can be initialized by electric spark or fire. That's why there is a solvent in a balloon. However, in a pipe (hose) acetylene flows as a gas, and so there is a possibility of flashback.
Plenty of other countries either bleep them or force people to use made up words instead of swears. I've translated subtitles before and for war films we had to get very creative in our translations so it could be shown on tv
@@samlomb2093 most of the time these shows are on during when kids are off school at least where i am but they also bleep when kids are in school but not all kids are in school.
Sometimes, the bleeping makes something funnier. My go-to example is the skit from Robot Chicken where Emperor Palpatine gets the news of the first Death Star having been destroyed. You can find both a bleeped and unbleeped version of it online and here on YT. Personally, I laugh a lot more at the bleeped version.
@@DavidRichardson153 Reminds me of an AVGN episode where he used "asshole" and it was bleeped, then he said "ass" and it wasn't, then "hole" and it wasn't, then "asshole" again and it was bleeped. And James' AVGN character was aware of it. And then there is obviously the option to bleep, but in a way that makes it totally obvious what is said. Like keeping the first consonant. The more interesting thing is that they also blur the mouth, as if children would be able to lipread.
I haven't felt pain 10. I've had 9.5 from burns and since relate 10 with blackout pain.. that was severe shock though, then had to drive myself to hospital while intoxicated.. the shock actually helped with that though, was halfway there when I realised I was hoping for a police car to drive past to drive me the rest of the way.
Totally agree on the propane rocket being plausible. There are special circumstances, but those circumstances can happen. Someone stores an old, partly full tank in a garage, there are leaks and the tank sits in water for years and starts rusting through. Later they move, the new garage is smaller, so they have to cram things together, and the tank sits between metal shelves. A fire happens and the shelves work as guiderails.
Brand recognition is crazy. I saw the Samsung logo for a split of a second with my peripheral vision and still recognized it. Even had to go back because it caught my attention.
36:53 I am too!, because I am also a redhead too! (I am the only one in my family, maybe the "blood of the northern peoples" has a little to do with it) 46:01 to me it sounds a lot like a morse code that says (without swearing) "who makes me do this torture!" or "I won't eat ice cream or ice lollies for a while!", 46:22 I have to say that Kari uses some really heavy "big words"!
I got people doing the ice pain test at work for a week after seeing this episode. A few of my co-worker could do it for more than a minute but a lot couldn't manage 10 seconds.
There is a also difference of feeling pain and enduring pain. You could feel little pain but endure it badly, or you could feel a lot of pain and endure it a lot as well. You can train endurance, but not really the feeling part. Men naturally have higher threshold of feeling pain of many kind due having thicker skin (I mean literally), stronger bone structure, more muscles etc. But the endurance part is mostly psychological. It's just what you have been exposed to. Also there is secondary bias as they are using cold water. If you have ever burned or frozen your hand, you feel the new experiences so much worse. This doesn't really apply to other kind of trauma. But this bias is easy to get rid of by just having larger sample.
You know it makes me wonder .. WHAT THE EFF do people do to get propane tanks to explode by accident? i have heard/seen so many gas explosions, how do they manage it? Mythbusters throw propane tank into intense fire and it won't blow up, but some dummies manage to blow it up by just using (abusing?) it, HOW? i just can't imagine how they manage it. there was some camper that blew up somehow, it wasn't even on fire. it just blew up, how the eff did they manage it?
42:18 Im wondering why it cost a lot to blur, software when this season aired and before had blurring tools that meant you could do it both quickly and easily
I want to go through the pain testing. When I got my nose pierced the lady that pierced me was astonished I didn’t flinch, make a noise or get teary eyed. She said she’d never seen that before with a nostril piercing
Not to be that person, but my kid had no reaction to their nose piercing, and the piercer was not too surprised. Some piercers just have a 'lighter' touch in my own (somewhat) extensive experience. Anecdotal evidence is just that: anecdotal 😊
On the redhead test, that one might be compromised. If all redheads came together before the test, they must have realized it is a test about redheads. If you then throw in a pain test, many may feel they have to show redheads can take it. I have no problem with a compromised test, as this is a fun tv show. And they did many beautiful tests, as in comparing swear words to ordinary words!
Well, they forgot to account for two things with their pain tolerance testing. They did not separate out mothers from non-mothers in their redhead testing, like they did with the first ones. The aggregate average thus is not necessarily correct, because the mothers will, if you go by the last tests averages, have increased the total average. For the last test, it seems like they just picked random non-swear words, and did not account for whether the person actually uses said words as replacements to cursing. The effect may very well be subjective, and any random ol' word from down the street may not be able to be used to measure the desired effect. Essentially making the test flawed, by the onset of cursing being more "charged," for a lack of a better term. I certainly doubt it'd help me reduce or endure pain etter by shouting "hello" or something to that effect. Not that it matters, given how old this is. But eh.
Separating the moders isnt needed since they are testing redheads in its totality, and that includes mothers. If the mith is right, those mothers would also have lower tolerance and thus the average would still be lower than nonredheads.
It's an entertainment TV show. It's good to get people thinking, but if you're bothered by the conclusions, you might be confusing a production team with a research team focused on a single experiment.
They very well could have, after finding out the women's data was like that. If they included mothers in the non-red-haired data, then they should include a similar proportion of mothers in their red-haired data. We don't know all of the behind the scenes stuff because it doesn't make for good TV
But that brings up perception. It's a subjective judgement as to what one thinks is unbearable. But the women who have done childbirth with no painkillers have tested that limit and beyond.
@@cejannuzi sure but thats not necessarily gender specific which tis test is about. it just so happens that in the modern world most people dont suffer great pain aside from childbirth.
There are even more errors in my opinion. Sample should be also normalized by BMI or maybe fat content as we all know more fat equals more insulation and we know that average women have more fat content than average man. But to be honest "gender war" episodes of mythbusters are mostly biased in some way just to overthrow these stereothypes.
Just remember that almost every conclusion on this show needs to be taken with a teaspoon of salt. And that's not a dig at them, they do what they can in the time they have with the resources they have. They're not doing research papers here, they're doing TV. Of course their methodology is going to be limited and their conclusions might be off, and that's completely fine.
my mom gave birth twice in a short span of 13 months, i put her through labor for 8 hours, my sister even longer however both of us ended up being c-sections
Yeah, I thought about cursing being used as way to release the stress. They should've done a control test where no movement and talking is allowed and another one where screaming and movement is okay. Just to see how much venting helps.
19:22 I can see a problem with the testing already; the men are on average taller, and in order to get their arm in the ice water while depressing the dead man switch they have to lower their chest, decreasing blood flow to the raised extremity. This decreased blood flow will lead to faster cooling of the extremity.
Another problem is the lack of randomization, I noticed that most, not all, of the women that lasted longer were overweight, while the first guy in the edited video to last the full time was also overweight. This could indicate that obesity is a critical factor in this particular testing regimen, not gender. Just from the limited view of the cohorts in the video it appears the women, on average, have more body fat.
@@zandemen They're sitting on a chair, the same chair in fact from the looks of it, and you can clearly see the men not having to hunker any significant amount more than the women do.
So for the pain, its plausible to say past painful experience make tolerance to pain higher right? That may mean that profanity wasn't the cause and having experienced the pain from cold more plausible reason for the increased time?
3:20 Torture isn't so much about pain but about breaking someone's will. Order that you do it, words, the inviroment and many other things play a role.
Adam is such an interesting guy, huge adrenaline junkie that loves seeing stuff go boom and laughs it off when Jamie drives him into a steel fence at like 35MPH but also just the biggest wuss when it comes to pain of any variety lol.
They said women have a higher pain tolerance, but then the women who had not gone through child birth had a lower tolerance. So it’s not completely confirmed.
But they also didn’t take into account the men who had experienced extreme pain. If it was women vs men who had not experienced extreme pain that would be a better indicator
With the redheads the test it's invalid because they were tested as a separate group and not mixed with everyone else. The group kinda knew that it was redheads vs the others and those are different conditions that may have boosted the time. It was still lovely and funny
Totally. And the Fat Man is interpreted from the Davy Crocket recoilless rifle. (So basically a "rocket launcher") Recoilless because it vents the gas out the back
I think men and women feel pain in similar amounts, women are definitely more likely to admit it. Yah that's a touch different than I expected, but in knowing the mums I do I'm unsurprised
On August 2018 the average US propane retail cost was approximately $2.48 per gallon. The wholesale price of propane in the U.S. always drops in the summer as most homes do not require it for home heating. The wholesale price of propane in the summer of 2018 was between 86 cents to 96 cents per U.S. gallon, based on a truckload or railway car load. The price for home heating was exactly double that price; at 95 cents per gallon wholesale, a home-delivered price was $1.90 per gallon if ordered 500 gallons at a time. Prices in the Midwest are always cheaper than California. Prices for home delivery always go up near the end of August or the first days of September when people start ordering their home tanks to be filled.
This is not the "no pain, no gain" myth. That is specifically dealing with the process of building muscle through weight training. You must induce the pain of lactic acid in order to build muscle. If you do painless low intensity exercises you do not build muscle, hence "no pain, no gain". It's also not really a myth, more of an established fact... This one is pain tolerance differences between people based on myth...
I wonder if there's any bias in the ice bath testing of men vs women, in terms of BMI. Fat is obviously a good insulator, and thus might help keep the painful effects of the ice cold water at bay for a while. The people you see give up the soonest are quite skinny, and conversely the opposite seems to be mostly true for the ones doing the full 3 minutes. Of course i cant judge from their small sample group, but looking at the 2016 average BMI statistics, females are about 0.5 BMI point higher than males. Also, fat distribution between males and females is noticeably different, although I am not sure how exactly that affects fat on the arms.
the only problem was the sample amount and using cold. theres also a 60% variability between people due to genetics. basically, it's highly individual and not a men v woman thing.
Im gonna say that BMI is unlikely to be an indicator. Fat shields your INSIDES against cold, but the nerves (which are the relevant factor in a pain-test) are on the outside of the skins hypodermic layer, right on top of the skins lipids. So while additional blubber might lower your risk of frostbite, its not going to change the pain.
I think he meant more that it'd take more effort to the editors having to blur the mouth a bunch of times. (don't think the irony isn't lost on them though that they over-engineered a solution that took more time/effort)
The nociceptors are on the surface of the skin and send a pain signal to avoid frostbite. It's not actually about being cold, so fat should not be a factor. But other things might: For example, studies show that adults with ADHD have a lower tolerance for pain, and particularly cold. This corresponds with Adam struggling with both (since he's ADHD).
You claim fat shouldn't be a factor, but there's 2 problems with that statement. Firstly, surface temperature of the skin is not just a function from outside temperature and conductivity, as it is also being actively heated from inside the body. Fat could prove to be an insulator and thus be less efficient in transferring heat to the outside, making the skin effectively colder. Secondly, you are mistaken that nociceptors are only on the 'surface of the skin'. They are also in joints and organs like bladder, digestive system but most importantly muscles. In particular, TRPA1 is one of the receptors afor cold (although its still unclear whether these also do extreme cold, but I digress), which are also found in muscules (source: ANKTM1, a TRP-like Channel Expressed in Nociceptive Neurons, Is Activated by Cold Temperatures by Story et.al.). The pain induced in these could perhaps add to those directly on the skin, thus making people with less insulation feel more pain as the cold can penetrate deeper in muscular tissue and thus stimulate those receptors as well..
So from these results Adam is a disgrace to red heads as his tolerance was well below average let alone red heads who have a higher tolerance for pain.
Small sample sizes, and only testing one type of pain. this is probably the worst test MB have done imo. because most real actual studies by actual scientist have come to the exact opposite result, that men have have a greater pain threshold.
Men showing less resistance to pain could simply be because pain is a protection mechanism. If you want to come home safely with the meat you have hunted, removing yourself from a painful and possibly dangerous situation could be an overall survival mechanism. Men who have been gravely wounded in war for example, don't pass out any more frequently than women in childbirth.
Childhood is thinking that Adam is the crazy scientist and Jamie is the cool, level-headed one.
Adulthood is realizing that Jamie is the crazy scientist, and Adam was the level-headed one who was just really hype about everything.
Still waters run deep
Jamie wants a big boom
Holy shit I never realized this
@@Stuka01210 Neither did I 👀
True that 😂
Normal person getting burned: "HOLY SH* THAT HURTS TAKE IT OFF AHHH!"
Jamie Hyneman getting burned: "I would say that qualifies as pain. Ow."
Took him a while to boot the pain subroutine
good thing the electrical pain test didn't damage any of Jamie's subdermal circuitry
He's smart enough to have installed measures to prevent such an eventuality.
The intergalactic walrus fondation monitored all of his life constant during his mission on planet earth
The bleeping at 41:09 is morse code, the editors saying hello 😂
Exactly the comment I was lookin for. Thanks
And Tory's is "HURTS"
"Adam lasted just 59 seconds" - That's what she said.
"Remember, we have to do this without damaging anybody"
"Oh"
Its fun to see Jamie going off-script and being joyful around people. I hate what production did to Jaime personality on the later half of the show run.
It's a shame they didn't consider body weight/fat % as a factor with temperature tolerance, a lot of the guys were quite lean looking, and that one who lasted to the limit was a large bloke.
Exactly. Average woman body fat content is almost twice as high as average men.
While I 100% agree with you, I can understand why they didn’t/wouldn’t take it that far: that amount of testing might not have fit into the episode time limit, and extended testing may have discouraged the average viewer from watching the show... as a kid, I know I watched Mythbusters for the jaw dropping explosions and collisions, not the number crunching! It’s really only now, 15+ years after this episode aired on TV for me to see, that I enjoy seeing the theoretical side of the show as much as the explosions.
Alot of their experiments lack that scientific rigor, which is also something I realuze now that I'm alot older (and yes I know they did a show to entertain, still, just shouting "science, yeah!" is what leads to myths in the first place). This often starts with sample sizes and ends with accounting for different variables, especially when it came to myths relating to your average human. I'd just like to remind everyone about the episode where they tried to test vodka vs poison ivy and despite suppsoedly 80% of people showing a reaction, everyone in their team with the exception of one was pretty much immune.
@@atabeelthat difference is not in the arms, so it's completely irrelevant to this test.
Agreed
I like the little morse code easter eggs 😂
(42:08)
.... . .-.. .-.. ---
hello
(44:24)
.... ..- .-. - ...
hurts
Is it hard to learn Morse code? Is it like learning a new language?
Always fascinated me how one can interpret it. Let alone speak it so fast.
@@JonatasAdoM Had to slow down the video to 0.25 speed to be able to decipher it 😂😂
About learning morse code, I don't think it's that hard. I watched the video from Vsauce, who has an interesting way of teaching morse, i really recommend it if you wanna learn morse code.
Tory isn't joking about it reminding him of his childhood, by the way. Apparently he almost burned his house down with a flamethrower as a kid.
Didnt we all?
Every southerner almost does that. We want revenge over Sherman's war crimes.
@@kkloikok hope he comes back and does it again.
Wouldn't the testing on redheads be ruined by bias though? They were called in to prove redheads arent weak, which means they've got a reason to be tougher while the others would just see if they could take the pain
They didn’t tell the volunteers it was a pain test until they were in front of the chair.
I’d bet the group shots of all the red heads wasn’t until after the test was done.
And I feel like the swearing test overlooked a thing: stress. The swearing is done to relieve that stress, so there would need to be a reference test with not saying anything and sitting still, and one with screaming and moving. Just to see if being able to vent stress improves.
Yeah, theyre also doing the same test twice, so they know what they're getting into and can handle it better. But its a science show, not a scientific study.
It gets skewed as soon as the participants know, that they were selected due to a specific trait. However, the sample sizes were small and the results were not tested for statistical significance anyways. And the hosts knew what they were testing for and interacted with the participants during the tests (and likely before as well). And there was no normalization of the data for other factors, not even important ones like age - which would correlate with child bearing in women. And factors which likely influence the behaviour and attitude were not eleminated. The participants were all looked after by men (and celebrities) and men and women might respond to that differently. It is difficult to get a sufficiently good design and the necessary sample sizes for this kind of experiments, even in serious scientific studies. But as presented here, the data does not allow for more conclusions then "there were no extreme and clear cut differences".
@@martinhuhn7813 TLDR: Biased towards not making all the necesssary tests so its not scientific
The feed tank will never explode but I give them 10/10 for safety. LPG needs oxygen to ignite and the mixture needs to be 100% correct or no flame. A LPG Canister just doesn't have enough oxygen inside, if any at all, to get the correct mix. The pressure from inside + The need for oxygen will just stop the flame near the nozzle. We have done safety drills for this. But beware! Some gasses don't need oxygen to burn! These gasses use what we call a flashback protector. Acetylene is one such gas.
Just for reference....I have been working with LPG for 15years. If your LPG bottle has turned into a flamethrower. Put something protective over your hand and close the valve "quickly". Don't pick the canister up and take it outside. You will burn the whole place down. If the valve is jammed or you don't have hand protection. Use a wet towel to stop oxygen from getting to the valve and the flame will die out. Proceed to take the bottle outside and be careful not to burn your hands on a hot gas canister. Allow it to decompress for safety and bring it to your local gas supplier for inspection.
When the tank ruptured after the tank it became obvious that once a crack happened, it will just continue, because the entire tank is compromised and can't hold the pressure.
But it would be easy to calculate how much thrust the thing needs to fly 150 ft. We just need the total weight and the pressure.
From the pressure we can get the exhaust velocity, and from the weight we can get the density of gas. And from that we can get the amount venting out per second.
The rest is [mass vented per second] x [speed of the exhaust] x [gravity] to get thrust in N
And with thrust and weight we can know if it will lift off.
To burn you need oxidizer. Acetylene doesn't burn without oxygen, it undergoes explosive decomposition when pressurized. This decomposition can be initialized by electric spark or fire. That's why there is a solvent in a balloon. However, in a pipe (hose) acetylene flows as a gas, and so there is a possibility of flashback.
Bleeping curses is such an American idea 😆
Plenty of other countries either bleep them or force people to use made up words instead of swears. I've translated subtitles before and for war films we had to get very creative in our translations so it could be shown on tv
@@samlomb2093 most of the time these shows are on during when kids are off school at least where i am but they also bleep when kids are in school but not all kids are in school.
Sometimes, the bleeping makes something funnier. My go-to example is the skit from Robot Chicken where Emperor Palpatine gets the news of the first Death Star having been destroyed. You can find both a bleeped and unbleeped version of it online and here on YT.
Personally, I laugh a lot more at the bleeped version.
@@opticmidnight2629 Where I live I think it is contingent on time slot. If its before like 11 pm it can't have bad language
@@DavidRichardson153 Reminds me of an AVGN episode where he used "asshole" and it was bleeped, then he said "ass" and it wasn't, then "hole" and it wasn't, then "asshole" again and it was bleeped. And James' AVGN character was aware of it.
And then there is obviously the option to bleep, but in a way that makes it totally obvious what is said. Like keeping the first consonant.
The more interesting thing is that they also blur the mouth, as if children would be able to lipread.
I haven't felt pain 10. I've had 9.5 from burns and since relate 10 with blackout pain.. that was severe shock though, then had to drive myself to hospital while intoxicated.. the shock actually helped with that though, was halfway there when I realised I was hoping for a police car to drive past to drive me the rest of the way.
Totally agree on the propane rocket being plausible.
There are special circumstances, but those circumstances can happen.
Someone stores an old, partly full tank in a garage, there are leaks and the tank sits in water for years and starts rusting through. Later they move, the new garage is smaller, so they have to cram things together, and the tank sits between metal shelves. A fire happens and the shelves work as guiderails.
Redheadedness tends to be a northern latitude adaptation. I'm not surprised at the resistance to cold.
Brand recognition is crazy. I saw the Samsung logo for a split of a second with my peripheral vision and still recognized it. Even had to go back because it caught my attention.
36:53 I am too!, because I am also a redhead too! (I am the only one in my family, maybe the "blood of the northern peoples" has a little to do with it)
46:01 to me it sounds a lot like a morse code that says (without swearing) "who makes me do this torture!" or "I won't eat ice cream or ice lollies for a while!", 46:22 I have to say that Kari uses some really heavy "big words"!
Time flies. I had forgotten Adam had been pierced.
I got people doing the ice pain test at work for a week after seeing this episode. A few of my co-worker could do it for more than a minute but a lot couldn't manage 10 seconds.
for those wondering, the morse at 42:08 was :
...././.-../.-../- - -
H E L L O
the morse at 44:24 was :
..../..-/.-./-/...
H U R T S
Cheers, I was wondering.🤬
Ahh, I remember seeing this live, so many memories
This episode made me think video editing was really hard as a child since they said blurring the swearing mouth is expensive.
It really isn't.
There is a also difference of feeling pain and enduring pain. You could feel little pain but endure it badly, or you could feel a lot of pain and endure it a lot as well. You can train endurance, but not really the feeling part. Men naturally have higher threshold of feeling pain of many kind due having thicker skin (I mean literally), stronger bone structure, more muscles etc. But the endurance part is mostly psychological. It's just what you have been exposed to. Also there is secondary bias as they are using cold water. If you have ever burned or frozen your hand, you feel the new experiences so much worse. This doesn't really apply to other kind of trauma. But this bias is easy to get rid of by just having larger sample.
This would have been the perfect mother's day upload lol
You could just wear a mask adam, but no we are mythbusters we build it ourselvs😂
They should have done a second no-swearing test, to ensure that the increase in tolerance wasn't because they'd experienced the pain once already.
cursing is form of self defense, ofcourse it works.
You know it makes me wonder .. WHAT THE EFF do people do to get propane tanks to explode by accident? i have heard/seen so many gas explosions, how do they manage it? Mythbusters throw propane tank into intense fire and it won't blow up, but some dummies manage to blow it up by just using (abusing?) it, HOW? i just can't imagine how they manage it. there was some camper that blew up somehow, it wasn't even on fire. it just blew up, how the eff did they manage it?
42:18
Im wondering why it cost a lot to blur, software when this season aired and before had blurring tools that meant you could do it both quickly and easily
I want to go through the pain testing. When I got my nose pierced the lady that pierced me was astonished I didn’t flinch, make a noise or get teary eyed. She said she’d never seen that before with a nostril piercing
Not to be that person, but my kid had no reaction to their nose piercing, and the piercer was not too surprised. Some piercers just have a 'lighter' touch in my own (somewhat) extensive experience. Anecdotal evidence is just that: anecdotal 😊
Jamie.. a man of emotions! ❤️🪨🗿🤖 Love it
Couldn't you have just worn a face mask? So unusual for Adam to over engineer😂
Gotta have good television/entertainment though.
Ive been looking out for this one.
Adam bailing on the red head myth shows its true lol
imagine the pain a 10 year old would feel being pushed into a 4 metre bonfire and grabbing hold of a white hot log. Yes that happened to me.
On the redhead test, that one might be compromised. If all redheads came together before the test, they must have realized it is a test about redheads. If you then throw in a pain test, many may feel they have to show redheads can take it.
I have no problem with a compromised test, as this is a fun tv show. And they did many beautiful tests, as in comparing swear words to ordinary words!
Well, they forgot to account for two things with their pain tolerance testing.
They did not separate out mothers from non-mothers in their redhead testing, like they did with the first ones. The aggregate average thus is not necessarily correct, because the mothers will, if you go by the last tests averages, have increased the total average.
For the last test, it seems like they just picked random non-swear words, and did not account for whether the person actually uses said words as replacements to cursing. The effect may very well be subjective, and any random ol' word from down the street may not be able to be used to measure the desired effect. Essentially making the test flawed, by the onset of cursing being more "charged," for a lack of a better term. I certainly doubt it'd help me reduce or endure pain etter by shouting "hello" or something to that effect.
Not that it matters, given how old this is. But eh.
Separating the moders isnt needed since they are testing redheads in its totality, and that includes mothers. If the mith is right, those mothers would also have lower tolerance and thus the average would still be lower than nonredheads.
When they tested the redheads my mind subconsciously started creating a venn diagram.
It's an entertainment TV show. It's good to get people thinking, but if you're bothered by the conclusions, you might be confusing a production team with a research team focused on a single experiment.
They very well could have, after finding out the women's data was like that. If they included mothers in the non-red-haired data, then they should include a similar proportion of mothers in their red-haired data. We don't know all of the behind the scenes stuff because it doesn't make for good TV
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i dont think the men vs women test is as clear as they say. looks more like that if you have sufferd extreme pain you can endure more after.
But that brings up perception. It's a subjective judgement as to what one thinks is unbearable. But the women who have done childbirth with no painkillers have tested that limit and beyond.
@@cejannuzi sure but thats not necessarily gender specific which tis test is about. it just so happens that in the modern world most people dont suffer great pain aside from childbirth.
There are even more errors in my opinion. Sample should be also normalized by BMI or maybe fat content as we all know more fat equals more insulation and we know that average women have more fat content than average man. But to be honest "gender war" episodes of mythbusters are mostly biased in some way just to overthrow these stereothypes.
Yep
Just remember that almost every conclusion on this show needs to be taken with a teaspoon of salt.
And that's not a dig at them, they do what they can in the time they have with the resources they have. They're not doing research papers here, they're doing TV. Of course their methodology is going to be limited and their conclusions might be off, and that's completely fine.
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my mom gave birth twice in a short span of 13 months, i put her through labor for 8 hours, my sister even longer however both of us ended up being c-sections
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They should get Goggins to do the pain challenges😂
Yeah and then find a woman who can beat him
Did anybody notice that the swear headwear looks a lot like saw trap from the movie saw 🤯
Not cursing but saying "fluffy" words with rage for me its the same thing as cursing (right Jamie?), i can´t say that was a logical test for him
Yeah, I thought about cursing being used as way to release the stress. They should've done a control test where no movement and talking is allowed and another one where screaming and movement is okay. Just to see how much venting helps.
19:22 I can see a problem with the testing already; the men are on average taller, and in order to get their arm in the ice water while depressing the dead man switch they have to lower their chest, decreasing blood flow to the raised extremity. This decreased blood flow will lead to faster cooling of the extremity.
Another problem is the lack of randomization, I noticed that most, not all, of the women that lasted longer were overweight, while the first guy in the edited video to last the full time was also overweight. This could indicate that obesity is a critical factor in this particular testing regimen, not gender. Just from the limited view of the cohorts in the video it appears the women, on average, have more body fat.
@@zandemen They're sitting on a chair, the same chair in fact from the looks of it, and you can clearly see the men not having to hunker any significant amount more than the women do.
@@zandemen How much of your body fat is in your hand?
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My parents actually have a garage about that size in surface area, though it is taller it isn't fully head height.
So for the pain, its plausible to say past painful experience make tolerance to pain higher right?
That may mean that profanity wasn't the cause and having experienced the pain from cold more plausible reason for the increased time?
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Torture isn't so much about pain but about breaking someone's will. Order that you do it, words, the inviroment and many other things play a role.
Adam is such an interesting guy, huge adrenaline junkie that loves seeing stuff go boom and laughs it off when Jamie drives him into a steel fence at like 35MPH but also just the biggest wuss when it comes to pain of any variety lol.
"Unit 731" American version.
They said women have a higher pain tolerance, but then the women who had not gone through child birth had a lower tolerance. So it’s not completely confirmed.
But they also didn’t take into account the men who had experienced extreme pain. If it was women vs men who had not experienced extreme pain that would be a better indicator
Lots of women suffer severe pain every month. Certainly far more than men just by being women.
With the redheads the test it's invalid because they were tested as a separate group and not mixed with everyone else. The group kinda knew that it was redheads vs the others and those are different conditions that may have boosted the time. It was still lovely and funny
wonder how deadly a shockwave the full gas tank made
3:38 Jamie taking the gom jabbar test!
18:54 any one else hear the pokeball return noise from the Pokemon anime
Um that launcher looks strangely familiar…fallout anyone? Mini nuke launcher haha
Totally.
And the Fat Man is interpreted from the Davy Crocket recoilless rifle. (So basically a "rocket launcher")
Recoilless because it vents the gas out the back
I dont care what you say about redheads, they are mostly prettier than normal people.
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48:19 this look exactly like torture in movie saw
I think men and women feel pain in similar amounts, women are definitely more likely to admit it.
Yah that's a touch different than I expected, but in knowing the mums I do I'm unsurprised
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Last time I seen this episode I was in high school...16 years ago. Good memories
i think it would be nice to test if women feel less or more pain but just push themselves less or more than men
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This is not the "no pain, no gain" myth. That is specifically dealing with the process of building muscle through weight training. You must induce the pain of lactic acid in order to build muscle. If you do painless low intensity exercises you do not build muscle, hence "no pain, no gain". It's also not really a myth, more of an established fact... This one is pain tolerance differences between people based on myth...
Me watching this as a college student, with a full apartment using my dual monitor PC to watch this:
Did you just want to tell us that you have an apartment and a computer with 2 monitors?
@@grimace4257 yeah that's kinda wierd
I wonder if there's any bias in the ice bath testing of men vs women, in terms of BMI. Fat is obviously a good insulator, and thus might help keep the painful effects of the ice cold water at bay for a while. The people you see give up the soonest are quite skinny, and conversely the opposite seems to be mostly true for the ones doing the full 3 minutes.
Of course i cant judge from their small sample group, but looking at the 2016 average BMI statistics, females are about 0.5 BMI point higher than males.
Also, fat distribution between males and females is noticeably different, although I am not sure how exactly that affects fat on the arms.
the only problem was the sample amount and using cold. theres also a 60% variability between people due to genetics. basically, it's highly individual and not a men v woman thing.
Im gonna say that BMI is unlikely to be an indicator.
Fat shields your INSIDES against cold, but the nerves (which are the relevant factor in a pain-test) are on the outside of the skins hypodermic layer, right on top of the skins lipids. So while additional blubber might lower your risk of frostbite, its not going to change the pain.
How is blurring expensive lmao
Maybe they ran out of blur fluid on the editing machinery.
I think he meant more that it'd take more effort to the editors having to blur the mouth a bunch of times.
(don't think the irony isn't lost on them though that they over-engineered a solution that took more time/effort)
The nociceptors are on the surface of the skin and send a pain signal to avoid frostbite. It's not actually about being cold, so fat should not be a factor.
But other things might: For example, studies show that adults with ADHD have a lower tolerance for pain, and particularly cold. This corresponds with Adam struggling with both (since he's ADHD).
You claim fat shouldn't be a factor, but there's 2 problems with that statement.
Firstly, surface temperature of the skin is not just a function from outside temperature and conductivity, as it is also being actively heated from inside the body. Fat could prove to be an insulator and thus be less efficient in transferring heat to the outside, making the skin effectively colder.
Secondly, you are mistaken that nociceptors are only on the 'surface of the skin'. They are also in joints and organs like bladder, digestive system but most importantly muscles. In particular, TRPA1 is one of the receptors afor cold (although its still unclear whether these also do extreme cold, but I digress), which are also found in muscules (source: ANKTM1, a TRP-like Channel Expressed in Nociceptive Neurons, Is Activated by Cold Temperatures by Story et.al.).
The pain induced in these could perhaps add to those directly on the skin, thus making people with less insulation feel more pain as the cold can penetrate deeper in muscular tissue and thus stimulate those receptors as well..
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! I didn't know that, I thought I was just crazy for feeling icy cold even when I know the room is (reasonably) warm
This is one of my favourite episodes simply for its creative use of linguistics. 🤬🤣
Not sure where they got the "men" but wr did 8min ice bsths after training in uni weekly.....
"In your face, me-oh" was the moment I liked the video
Those dude's they got to do the test looked a bit wimpy!
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Not to be rude but they pick the nerds
Try reading book or singing it's about distracting your mind
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did you ever took a shower after your wife ? they don't feel pain
Of course gingers don't feel pain as much as real people.
34:45 Holly Jesus, that girl is/was amazingly pretty...
so its not that women can endure more pain, its that they can give birth wich is on a pain level most men never expirience
And men are told to "be strong and endure it" because "a real man doesn't cry"
Men are basically expected to tolerate pain.
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah I mean. If you cant hold your Hand in cold water for 3 min I will think less of you lol
Adam pull's out in just under a minute. 🎉
We successfully determined Adam is a wuss and Jamie's a stud.
To the surprise of absolutely noone
@@AeonLibertas we suspected and generally accepted wisdom but there's the proof.
So from these results Adam is a disgrace to red heads as his tolerance was well below average let alone red heads who have a higher tolerance for pain.
In this episode you can really see they hate each other when Jamie hit Adam with a rubber mallet. /s
She:Its was maxed out..
He:Heh that was nothing:):)
"Your peeps" they both are gingers ? 😅
Nobody knows about Jammie, all we can see is his mustache 😂
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Small sample sizes, and only testing one type of pain. this is probably the worst test MB have done imo. because most real actual studies by actual scientist have come to the exact opposite result, that men have have a greater pain threshold.
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those were not men.............
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Men showing less resistance to pain could simply be because pain is a protection mechanism. If you want to come home safely with the meat you have hunted, removing yourself from a painful and possibly dangerous situation could be an overall survival mechanism. Men who have been gravely wounded in war for example, don't pass out any more frequently than women in childbirth.
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I've never met a woman with a high pain threshold. They whine all the time.
Maybe it's because they are around you?
@@a_921 entirely possible