Even though I don’t think this but why is Kareem not in the GOAT discussion? I mean 6 rings 6 MVPs 10 finals appearances all time leading scorer, most unstoppable move in NBA history etc. what do you guys think?
LeBron is "better" but Jordan is "greater". MJ's accomplishments/achievements, records, finals records, stats, overall impact on the game all outweigh LeBron's but purely from a basketball skillset LeBron is the best ever, IMO. He's a big who can run, pass and shoot like a guard. And I say that as a Celtics fan who hopes he loses every game he plays lol!
Kenny bro, at 300K you gotta do a Jordan vs. lebron debate. Do some research on Jordan, do whatever you gotta do, make points for each argument, then give us an explanation on who you pick. That would be a great video, especially on the timing, considering you'll be at 300K soon after the finals this year!
Agnes Kanyi because he had the team to get the those achievements, lebron took a team with scrubs to the finals,jordan could NEVER DO SOMTHING LIKE THAT
Nizar Bait saleem I always say this in James v Jordan discussions: Michael had a bigger impact on basketball so he is a greater player for me, but the best is LeBron. Personally i think that LBJ wouldn't be the greatest if he developed in the 90s like Jordan but he developed in this new era and that made him better. Basketball evolves and keeps evolving so there will always be better and better players in the future.
I agreed with everything u said except Klay being better than demar. Klay is a system player he is in the right system right now and he’s basically just there to shoot and defend. Demar can actually lead a team and if u put him on another team he’ll still put out the same stats as he has now. Klay wouldn’t do the same in my opinion.
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Cody Ayers your opinion is based on what you think would happen if you put then on different teams, so it isn't factual based because you can't proven that Klay wouldn't be as good as he is now on another team, nor can you prove that demar would be as good as he is now.
Demars a better player and has better playmaking, since bargnani left demar has lead his team to like 5 playoff apperences in a row and does what he does by himself with lowry and his bench
Karl Reacts well Lowry is an all star and the raptors had the statistical best bench in the league last year so he has tons of help, not as much as Klay but still a lot. Yet he never does anything in the playoffs. He always comes up small. And Klay is better on every single aspect on defense so what you said isnt true. Klay is a better 3 point shooter for sure but also is a lockdown defender. He is also much more clutch than demar.
Not.fakes.only.samples do you realize before that vid he had so many praising LeBron's greatness. But also he used specific stats for most of it, you can't argue those
Lukas K I’m not saying he is a biased Jordan fan, I’m saying that video used some pretty biased points. He started off by using nick wright, who we all know doesn’t see both sides of the coin. He worships lebron, so he isn’t a valid person to use. Dom brings up lebrons choke in ‘11, and how a goat wouldn’t get outplayed by Jason terry. He fails to mention Jordan’s choke in 95 when he got outplayed by nick Anderson. So yea some points were good, but it was mostly biased
Chris Wee yes im a bulls fan. I like Jordan more personally. LeBron is my #2 greatest and I love watching him but based on the facts the pure stats in most aspects Jordan was better. LeBron does have more skill- better passer, rebounder, shooter but overall Jordan better
The hardest question on this list to me was either Damian Lillard or John Wall because they are both REALLY similar players but I think John Wall is better probably
Jordan because he was a better defender for a longer period of time. And you could debate who is a better scorer, but I would give it to Jordan. Plus 6-0. But LeBron is definitely Number 2
jordan and lebron shouldn’t be debated. here’s why. jordan dominated the best era of basketball. lebron dominated the second/third best era of basketball. in jordan’s era, barley 3 point shooting, handchecking, hard fouls, big men, goons, way more better teams in the league. in lebrons era, no big man, make 3 pointers or bust, no handchecking, if you breathe on a guy, its a tech. its wayyyyy softier. when jordan drove to the rim, 3 guys trying to block him atleast. hard fouls. when lebron drives, he just has to beat the guy on the P because no dominate bigs are playing anymore. lebron is like a magic. they are uncomparable. jordan won 6-6 in the best era. lebron was 3-5 in this era. lebrons 40-50 pounds heavier and 3 inches taller. jordan was asked to score. but the time he did run point, he avg 8 assist. lebron is asked to do alot more. and he can. but jordan wasn’t just the best offensive player, he was top 3 in defense. jordan made scottie a top 50 player ever. lebron made kyrie and bosh that too. its just not fair
Jordan is better but Lebron is not done. Maybe five to seven more years! Lebron might pass him and I believe he will. Here’s my list: 1. Jordan 2. Lebron 3. Kareem 4. Wilt 5. Bird 6. Magic 7. Kobe 8. Shaq 9. Olajuwon 10. Duncan
Lebron has 1 legit championship (2016 cavs) while the other 2 were with heat superteam while jordan won 3 without rodman, kukoc and amazing role players
It could go either way for mj or LeBron because neither could play in the others era because of the different rule changes so I don’t know who to choose but from being a Celtics fan I go with Michael Jordan
MJ has more rings,less finals loses, more scoring titles, more all-defensive 1st teams, more DPOY, more season steal titles, never played with a 20+ ppg scorer, played harder competition in the east, more slam dunk titles, never joined a super team or created one. So u tell me...who’s the GOAT? It’s simple
Brendan Creamer haha won more dunk contests so his better. If Lebron versed the teams Jordan did with one of the best SF ever he wouldn’t lose. Jordan is not as good all round as Lebron
+Danny Rittie If Lebron played back then he would get wrecked. And Jordan is better on defence and at scoring so Jordan is better all-around. Also if Lebron played back then then he wouldn't have been as athletic. Brendan didn't say that his dunk contests made him better, he was just listing Jordan's list of awards
Jordan's better. He has more awards, had better stats, had better single games, played in a tougher era with a worse team than Lebron when he was in Miami. [Jordan's championship bulls teams were still good but those Miami teams were amazing] and name one time where MJ had to step up to the plate and choked, the closest you'll get would probably be those years where he hit the road block known as the bad boy pistons, but even then they had to constantly double and triple team him to slow him down. Jordan's better, but he ain't the GOAT since we all know KOT4Q is.
Your point about Jordans teams isn't quite right. Do you know what ELO is? Basically it's a statistical ranking system that originally came from chess that's used in games and sports now to compare players and teams' skills. Jordan's teams, statistically, were the warriors of their generation. If you think about it, Jordan's bulls adding Rodman was a lot like the dubs adding KD (to a smaller extent). Their ELO was so much better than everyone else's, he had to win. LeBron's never been on a team that good, although Miami was close. I'm not saying either is better, I really don't know at this point, but the idea that Jordan had tougher comp isn't really true given the team and coach he had, especially compared to the Cavs rn.
+A&Omega Fair point, but the warriors of their generation is a bit of a stretch. Great team, yes, warriors of their generation, no way. Also that may be a testament to their competition, but it also might be a testament to how good the bulls really were with Jordan.
Think about the game tkday with all the advances in technology like advanced stats and how they train now vs the 90s. LeBron is lucky, if Jordan played today no doubt he's #1
Lukas K lebron is literally a train moving at full speed lol, nobody in today's game can stop him, what makes you think the weaker 90's generation can stop him?
Biased T-Wolves Fan he'd still be one of the most dominant players in 90s yes. But I'm talking about how his body has been maintained playing 40+ minutes every game at age 33. You couldn't do that in 90s. And in 90s there were more legends, as today is more all around stars. LeBron would have much better teams to play against back then at least until finals and cuz warriors are one if best teams of all time
Biased T-Wolves Fan also today LeBron gets surrounded by shooter allowing him to drive and do whatever he wants because of 3 ball emphasis. In 90s he'd have a lot less space and they game was rougher. No doubt LeBron is #2 by far but Jordan is still #1
Biased T-Wolves Fan cause there’s way better defensive centers that can affect his shot at the paint so his layup % would probably be lower but who knows
My personal list: 1. Jordan (LBJ could pass him if he win this year) 2. Curry 3. Leonard 4. Durant 5. Paul 6. Butler 7. Thompson 8. Wall 9. Cousins (if he stays healthy) 10. Simmons 11. Green 12. Beal
Guest Useraccount other than rings Lebron is better in pretty much every other category plus he goes to the finals every year yes he loses but I don’t think kobe ever faced a team nearly as good as the warriors. If it’s about rings, Robert Horry is one of the greatest ever
Kenny, you don’t realize how much of a perfect system Ben Simmons got put in. Donovan could dominate on any team but on a team that doesn’t fit Ben Simmons needs and he wouldn’t be in ROTY conversations
I think Rudy Gobert is a better basketball player than Draymond Green. He is the best rim protector in the league and not as lost as eg Deandre Jordan on the perimeter. While Green has the edge on defensive flexibility, I still think Rudy Gobert is the better defender. On the offensive side Green is again more versatile and can create offense better than Gobert (although not really for himself), but Gobert is overall the more efficient offensive player (when used at his strengths (picknroll etc))
Lebron, all Jordan has over LBJ is scoring titles and LBJ haters will say “but Jordan has more rings” but so does Bill Russell so they can’t really use that in the argument
CJ Evans there are so many arguments for Jordan > LBJ that do not involve the 6-0 record in the finals. If you don't take the rings into consideration, you take away the accomplishment everyone who ever hooped wants to achieve. C'mon man
Best in their decade? 60s: Bill Russell vs Wilt vs Oscar 70s: Kareem vs Moses Malone 80s: Magic vs Bird vs Isiah 90s: Jordan vs Karl Malone vs Hakeem 00s: Shaq vs Kobe vs Tim Duncan 10s: Lebron vs KD vs Curry
Pete Marivach is the goat. No we never got to watch him play but hearing stories, watching videos and highlights. He has the highest work ethic more then anyone in the league. G.O.A.T
1A) Jordan 1B) LeBron They are both incredible players that dominated their generation equally as much. They both have highs and lows, so it is difficult to judge the two without seeing them play each other in their prime.
Rudy Gobert "hasnt developed an offensive game" but still averaged more points than Draymond and at a much higher field goal percentage. Rudy Gobert is one of those players whose impact flies under the radar. His Jazz team is rarely put on tv so people dont see that he's more than just a rim protector
*My answers:* *1. Michael Jordan* *2. Stephen Curry* *3. James Harden* *4. Kevin Durant* *5. Kyrie Irving* *6. Jimmy Butler* *7. Klay Thompson* *8. Damian Lillard* *9. DeMarcus Cousins* *10. Ben Simmons* *11. Draymond Green* *P.S: You said 63% for Kevin Durant when it was 67%*
Your completely undervaluing Donovan Mitchell’s defense, they were ranked number 2 in the league when we watched them in the playoffs he was the one who stepped up to defend Russ and James Harden.
Scoring is the most important part of basketball(other than defense).The only reason ppl think ben simmons is a better defender is cause he is bigger.Also spida was picked 13 soully for his defensive potential
MJ was top-10 in dpoy voting ten times while also being the scoring champion. That's a decade worth of seasons as the best scorer and a top ten defender in the league, no other player can say that, hes the GOAT enough said.
1. LeBron James 2. Stephen Curry 3. Kawhi Leonard 4. Kevin Durant 5. Kyrie Irving 6. Jimmy Butler 7. Klay Thompson 8. John Wall 9. DeMarcus Cousins 10. Ben Simmons 11. Draymond Green
HOLD ONNN kenny you said dononvan mitchell is a better scorer and ben simmons is more of an all around player correct, Michael is a better scorer and LBJ is more of an all around player. caught you in that 1 huh. STILL MY FAVORITE RUclipsR ALL LOVE AND RESPECT
LeBron is better in my mind because he is still getting better. Also, LeBron is just a better off-court player and has never realy been in drama or got on trouble. On top of that he has been to the finals more with bad teams, though some can argue he has been in a bad conference, which is true, but his teams have usually just been him, and it is impresive for 1 person to carry his teams to the finals. He has done it when he was younger, and now, when he is older.
Greysen G wdym usually? He's been on his own once in 07. He had love this year who did come up big in several games and has had a big 3 every other finals he's been in. Also I agree lebron is a better role model and shit off the court but that doesn't factor in to who's better
Josh well when the warriors had one their 1st champ, kyrie and love were injured in the finals. The real good teams he had were the 3-1 cavs and maimi, which is 5 out of 9 times he had good teams. He has been to the finals with average-below average players 4 times when michael has only been to the finals 6 times in total. Yes he has lost 5 and this may be his 6 time losing, but he still has carried teams with only decent players at the most. The 2nd best player is kevin love, who has not been that good, though he is playing better these playoffs.
Greysen G that wasn't being a bad role model that was posing a danger to the team. And if nobody took action against that gun situation it wouldn't have effected him. It's not that situation that ruined his career it's how I was handled
Greysen G the cavs last year were a great team too. So that leaves him with 3 teams that weren't so good that he dragged to the finals. 07 was impressive undoubtedly but the competition was pretty lackluster. In the year GS one their first ring he had a good team until the conference finals. I'll admit again that series against the Hawks was very impressive. Then this year to be fair Kevin love has had some excellent games and again the competition hasn't been great. Indiana, a projected lottery team who's main star Oladipo played poorly, Toronto who repeatedly chokes against Bron and Boston without their two stars
Kobe did the same thing in 2010 that LeBron did this year carry a team with only 1 all star other that themselves to the Championship, play against a team with 4 all stars (Kobe played the Celtics with Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen) but the thing was... Kobe actually won(.)
I would choose Donovan Mitchell over Ben Simmons, because he doesn’t really have really good help while in Philly Ben has an all star teammate, and vet, and more young cores
agreed with you on most of them except i would pick lbj over mj, cp3 over kyrie, and harden over kawhi. harden has actually become a pretty good 1 on 1 defender, and can do way more on offense than kawhi can.
No way you’ll reply but I wanna hear other people’s opinions too.. is this a good pg list? 1. Curry 2. Westbrook 3. Kyrie 4. Paul 5. Wall 6. Dame. I think that’s the most accurate list of the best pointguards in the nba. Please don’t be bias, just agree or disagree, and say why.
I feel like the people saying ben simmonds is the better player than Donovan Mitchell because he is a better all around player use the opposite logic to say jordan is better than lebron
I dont know if i will choose simmons over mitchell . Donovan has 6'10 wingspan and he is playing good diffense . U can check the stats from the playoffs
My favorite clip is when James Harden lost a shoe, and it was a perfect excuse not to play defense. He just slowly walked with his shoe and played no defense. LOL
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Even though I don’t think this but why is Kareem not in the GOAT discussion? I mean 6 rings 6 MVPs 10 finals appearances all time leading scorer, most unstoppable move in NBA history etc. what do you guys think?
He didn't have the personality to be the GOAT. He also had Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson
Mud Shovel he played in an easiy era where he was the tallest
Mud Shovel i dont know anyone who puts kareem into the goat discussiob
I think its largely because he didn't always lead his team to championships. He didn't always win finals MVP. He's still great tho
He played in a era where he was the tallest biggest and most dominant NBA player
LeBron is "better" but Jordan is "greater". MJ's accomplishments/achievements, records, finals records, stats, overall impact on the game all outweigh LeBron's but purely from a basketball skillset LeBron is the best ever, IMO. He's a big who can run, pass and shoot like a guard. And I say that as a Celtics fan who hopes he loses every game he plays lol!
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The stats and overall impact also favor LeBron a lot.
But MJ is a huge winner who always got it done in the big moments.
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Kenny bro, at 300K you gotta do a Jordan vs. lebron debate. Do some research on Jordan, do whatever you gotta do, make points for each argument, then give us an explanation on who you pick. That would be a great video, especially on the timing, considering you'll be at 300K soon after the finals this year!
Biased T-Wolves Fan good idea fr
Hopefully he’s into school work cuz this sounds like a essay your teacher would give you 😂
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O my god this is a dream come true Kenny loved my comment he truly is the 👑
He forgot Paul George is the best shooter of all time lmao jp
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Lebron is a better skilled player but jordan is better in achievements
Agnes Kanyi I think Jordan is more skilled
Jason Cramer in terms of all aroundness Lebron is by far better TO ME.Jordan had more accolades and achievements.
BBQBlaze KyleG true
Agnes Kanyi because he had the team to get the those achievements, lebron took a team with scrubs to the finals,jordan could NEVER DO SOMTHING LIKE THAT
Nizar Bait saleem I always say this in James v Jordan discussions:
Michael had a bigger impact on basketball so he is a greater player for me, but the best is LeBron. Personally i think that LBJ wouldn't be the greatest if he developed in the 90s like Jordan but he developed in this new era and that made him better. Basketball evolves and keeps evolving so there will always be better and better players in the future.
I agreed with everything u said except Klay being better than demar. Klay is a system player he is in the right system right now and he’s basically just there to shoot and defend. Demar can actually lead a team and if u put him on another team he’ll still put out the same stats as he has now. Klay wouldn’t do the same in my opinion.
Cody Ayers THANK YOU I FUCKING LIKE YOU (NO HOMO) DEROZAN IS WAY BETTER THEN THOMPSON IF YOU OUT THOMPSON ON ANOTHER TEAM PEOPLE WONT TALK BOUT HIM HE ONLY IN NBA FANS DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE OF THE TEAM AND WHO HE PLAYS WITH
Cody Ayers your opinion is based on what you think would happen if you put then on different teams, so it isn't factual based because you can't proven that Klay wouldn't be as good as he is now on another team, nor can you prove that demar would be as good as he is now.
Demars a better player and has better playmaking, since bargnani left demar has lead his team to like 5 playoff apperences in a row and does what he does by himself with lowry and his bench
Ant 2k well demar is better than Klay in every aspect besides three pointer
Karl Reacts well Lowry is an all star and the raptors had the statistical best bench in the league last year so he has tons of help, not as much as Klay but still a lot. Yet he never does anything in the playoffs. He always comes up small. And Klay is better on every single aspect on defense so what you said isnt true. Klay is a better 3 point shooter for sure but also is a lockdown defender. He is also much more clutch than demar.
I’m the G.O.A.T
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Marco Belinelli
That belongs to Jordan
No it belongs to Scal
Marco Belinelli It belongs to Matt Bonner
Marco Belinelli I’m a philly boi and he was playing great for what was expected so I hope he comes back
How is this controversial? you didn't answer the most controversial question on the list and then you picked with the majority on every other question
Curry defense - tries but isn’t good
WB defense - non existent
Um he absolutely clamped up harden vs the rockets. He is an excellent defender when he tries
Greatest Ever shut your dumb ass up
But yet Westbrook was top 25 in the league in defensive rating and efficiency but yea defense non existent OK
The Orange Banana he was third highest in steals per game this year. That’s defense if you didn’t know
The Orange Banana you are dumb asf lol
Go watch dom2k's video on Jordan vs LeBron. Trust me it's all based on facts and stats and will give y'all better understanding
Lukas K it was hella biased
Not.fakes.only.samples do you realize before that vid he had so many praising LeBron's greatness. But also he used specific stats for most of it, you can't argue those
Not.fakes.only.samples no it’s you who’s biased
Lukas K I’m not saying he is a biased Jordan fan, I’m saying that video used some pretty biased points. He started off by using nick wright, who we all know doesn’t see both sides of the coin. He worships lebron, so he isn’t a valid person to use. Dom brings up lebrons choke in ‘11, and how a goat wouldn’t get outplayed by Jason terry. He fails to mention Jordan’s choke in 95 when he got outplayed by nick Anderson. So yea some points were good, but it was mostly biased
Chris Wee yes im a bulls fan. I like Jordan more personally. LeBron is my #2 greatest and I love watching him but based on the facts the pure stats in most aspects Jordan was better. LeBron does have more skill- better passer, rebounder, shooter but overall Jordan better
Y’all seriously think Jimmy butler is better then Paul george?! Come on now. Its paul george
SoupKing Chicago bias dummy
Jimmy Butler is way better than Wayoff P now lol
The hardest question on this list to me was either Damian Lillard or John Wall because they are both REALLY similar players but I think John Wall is better probably
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You taught me to be real when it comes to this topic because usually I would pick the player I liked better but you tough to me to respect greatness
Jordan the G.O.A.T
He didn't join 50 40 90 or even win 3pt contest
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This 2 videos a day thing is making me very happy
Russ > Steph
agreed heavily
Jordan because he was a better defender for a longer period of time. And you could debate who is a better scorer, but I would give it to Jordan. Plus 6-0. But LeBron is definitely Number 2
Steve Nash or Kyrie Irving?
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Best RUclips channel out there, get this dude some clout. I hate when the videos end though lol
You have good opinions, and I understand how difficult it is to choose LBJ or MJ because you never got to truly experience watching him.
jordan and lebron shouldn’t be debated. here’s why.
jordan dominated the best era of basketball.
lebron dominated the second/third best era of basketball.
in jordan’s era, barley 3 point shooting, handchecking, hard fouls, big men, goons, way more better teams in the league.
in lebrons era, no big man, make 3 pointers or bust, no handchecking, if you breathe on a guy, its a tech. its wayyyyy softier.
when jordan drove to the rim, 3 guys trying to block him atleast. hard fouls.
when lebron drives, he just has to beat the guy on the P because no dominate bigs are playing anymore.
lebron is like a magic.
they are uncomparable.
jordan won 6-6 in the best era.
lebron was 3-5 in this era.
lebrons 40-50 pounds heavier and 3 inches taller.
jordan was asked to score. but the time he did run point, he avg 8 assist.
lebron is asked to do alot more. and he can. but jordan wasn’t just the best offensive player, he was top 3 in defense. jordan made scottie a top 50 player ever. lebron made kyrie and bosh that too. its just not fair
Whenever I have to explain who’s better MJ or LBJ I just say their equally as good at their own attributes
same they ate the kings of different realms i like to think
Jordan is better but Lebron is not done. Maybe five to seven more years! Lebron might pass him and I believe he will. Here’s my list:
1. Jordan
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Bird
6. Magic
7. Kobe
8. Shaq
9. Olajuwon
10. Duncan
Clayton Lakatos bird before magic? Magic won more rings
ReadingRoses exactly bruh this nigga trippin
ReadingRoses Magic had Kareem, James, Byron. Idk tho
Sawyer Webster you act like bird didn’t have a stacked ass team tf?
isaiah ikr 3-4 hall of famers wtf?
Hey Kenny, love the vids I’m glad your doing this upload challenge so I can watch two videos a day
I hate Steph Curry, but I always tell people that he is better than every other point guard in the NBA.
Lebron has 1 legit championship (2016 cavs) while the other 2 were with heat superteam while jordan won 3 without rodman, kukoc and amazing role players
Jimmy aint better than me🤣🤣
Paul George yes he is
No he is not
This didn’t age well
It could go either way for mj or LeBron because neither could play in the others era because of the different rule changes so I don’t know who to choose but from being a Celtics fan I go with Michael Jordan
Kenny who you think is the better player Giannis or AD?
Ad is better but Giannas has more upside
Eli Saulo I agree
AD
But in a few years who do u think is going to be the best?
Ad
Top 5 in the league (in no order)
Lebron
Kd
Kawhi
Harden
Curry
MJ has more rings,less finals loses, more scoring titles, more all-defensive 1st teams, more DPOY, more season steal titles, never played with a 20+ ppg scorer, played harder competition in the east, more slam dunk titles, never joined a super team or created one. So u tell me...who’s the GOAT? It’s simple
Brendan Creamer haha won more dunk contests so his better. If Lebron versed the teams Jordan did with one of the best SF ever he wouldn’t lose. Jordan is not as good all round as Lebron
+Danny Rittie If Lebron played back then he would get wrecked. And Jordan is better on defence and at scoring so Jordan is better all-around. Also if Lebron played back then then he wouldn't have been as athletic. Brendan didn't say that his dunk contests made him better, he was just listing Jordan's list of awards
never created superteam? everyone says that 1996 bulls were second best team of all time after gsw
Potato ur special. Jordan didn’t leave to make a super team. That wasn’t a super team. It was the greatest team, but Jordan only one who scored 20+
Brendan Creamer wbat about lebron 2 1st round losses
It's crazy how players have developed into much better players since this video
Unpopular opinion
Rudy Gobert is a top 3 center in the league
Mattson Got Game top 5
I actually think it’s a conversation between Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Vs. Michael Jordan and of course, Michael Jordan wins.
Jordan's better. He has more awards, had better stats, had better single games, played in a tougher era with a worse team than Lebron when he was in Miami. [Jordan's championship bulls teams were still good but those Miami teams were amazing] and name one time where MJ had to step up to the plate and choked, the closest you'll get would probably be those years where he hit the road block known as the bad boy pistons, but even then they had to constantly double and triple team him to slow him down. Jordan's better, but he ain't the GOAT since we all know KOT4Q is.
Chancellor Squaldor You're reasoning is horrible. Try again.
Dee Why is it horrible? Maybe I am wrong but I need a reason
Your point about Jordans teams isn't quite right. Do you know what ELO is? Basically it's a statistical ranking system that originally came from chess that's used in games and sports now to compare players and teams' skills. Jordan's teams, statistically, were the warriors of their generation. If you think about it, Jordan's bulls adding Rodman was a lot like the dubs adding KD (to a smaller extent). Their ELO was so much better than everyone else's, he had to win. LeBron's never been on a team that good, although Miami was close. I'm not saying either is better, I really don't know at this point, but the idea that Jordan had tougher comp isn't really true given the team and coach he had, especially compared to the Cavs rn.
+A&Omega Fair point, but the warriors of their generation is a bit of a stretch. Great team, yes, warriors of their generation, no way. Also that may be a testament to their competition, but it also might be a testament to how good the bulls really were with Jordan.
those miami supporting cast weren't even close to Jordan's. Outside of Ray Chris and Wade who could you count on? Mike miller?
KOT4Q deserves a lot more than 300K subs. Put some respect on his name.
Think about the game tkday with all the advances in technology like advanced stats and how they train now vs the 90s. LeBron is lucky, if Jordan played today no doubt he's #1
Lukas K You could say the same thing the other way.
Jordan is lucky, if lebron played back then without a doubt he would be #1
Lukas K lebron is literally a train moving at full speed lol, nobody in today's game can stop him, what makes you think the weaker 90's generation can stop him?
Biased T-Wolves Fan he'd still be one of the most dominant players in 90s yes. But I'm talking about how his body has been maintained playing 40+ minutes every game at age 33. You couldn't do that in 90s. And in 90s there were more legends, as today is more all around stars. LeBron would have much better teams to play against back then at least until finals and cuz warriors are one if best teams of all time
Biased T-Wolves Fan also today LeBron gets surrounded by shooter allowing him to drive and do whatever he wants because of 3 ball emphasis. In 90s he'd have a lot less space and they game was rougher. No doubt LeBron is #2 by far but Jordan is still #1
Biased T-Wolves Fan cause there’s way better defensive centers that can affect his shot at the paint so his layup % would probably be lower but who knows
KOT4Q favorite 3 players
1.Jordan 2.Paul 3.Wade
I read this title in Oprahside’s voice
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😂😂😂😂
A lot of these are close because it can either be their stats of all time or their stats this year.
Michael Jordan is the greatest scorer we've ever seen and Lbj is the best all around wise
Micah Hargrove Kareem is the greatest scorer
Micah Hargrove Kobe is the greatest scorer the league has ever seen
K’len JJ25 no hes not ur just a Lakers fan
Jay fax
K’len JJ25 definitely not
My personal list:
1. Jordan (LBJ could pass him if he win this year)
2. Curry
3. Leonard
4. Durant
5. Paul
6. Butler
7. Thompson
8. Wall
9. Cousins (if he stays healthy)
10. Simmons
11. Green
12. Beal
bro, Durant is better than AD
Paul over Irving? Stfu
Where’s Shaw Where’s Wilt Where’s KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
Whoever says kobe is better than Lebron is mental
Whoever says LeBron with 3 rings is greater than Kobe with 5 rings is even more mental. That is YOU.
Guest Useraccount other than rings Lebron is better in pretty much every other category plus he goes to the finals every year yes he loses but I don’t think kobe ever faced a team nearly as good as the warriors. If it’s about rings, Robert Horry is one of the greatest ever
Guest Useraccount someone doesn’t understand basketball if their only argument is rings
Henry Silverman TROYDAN
He's a better pure scorer
He is my favourite youtuber honestly I've told everyone about u
My Answers
Jordan
Curry
Harden
Durant
Irving
George
Thompson
Wall
Cousins
Simmons but Mitchell for ROTY
Green
Person That Lives kkkk
Person That Lives I’m lost how is Ben Simmons better but Mitchell is ROTY
76ers Rule Ben Simmons is better at everything other than scoring but idk
Throwing up 2Jr I think Ben is ROTY because he is the better all around player but Mitchell is the better scorer and he has better all around stats
Person That Lives yeah Simmons ain’t rookie
Kenny, you don’t realize how much of a perfect system Ben Simmons got put in. Donovan could dominate on any team but on a team that doesn’t fit Ben Simmons needs and he wouldn’t be in ROTY conversations
best vid and best youtuber ever
Adji Diouf *fax* 🔥💯
ikr
Lol Kenny ended the video bc the next one was Beal and McCollum, and he said to himself “these niggas are the same.”
Haven't seen the video yet but I am sure he is gonna say Jordan is the goat
george katsis wrong
Caesar Virus I guess I am ....😓
george katsis παιξατε καλα σημερα
Hey Kenny just wanted to say that I love your channel
Frank>DSJ
Frank didn’t even start
*Dennis Smith Jr. > Frank Ntilikina*
I think Rudy Gobert is a better basketball player than Draymond Green. He is the best rim protector in the league and not as lost as eg Deandre Jordan on the perimeter. While Green has the edge on defensive flexibility, I still think Rudy Gobert is the better defender. On the offensive side Green is again more versatile and can create offense better than Gobert (although not really for himself), but Gobert is overall the more efficient offensive player (when used at his strengths (picknroll etc))
Lebron, all Jordan has over LBJ is scoring titles and LBJ haters will say “but Jordan has more rings” but so does Bill Russell so they can’t really use that in the argument
CJ Evans there are so many arguments for Jordan > LBJ that do not involve the 6-0 record in the finals. If you don't take the rings into consideration, you take away the accomplishment everyone who ever hooped wants to achieve. C'mon man
You cant compare Russells with Jordans titles
CJ Evans Did you forget that defense is a thing?
This is a lazy statement
Jonas Wullenweber how can’t you?
Best in their decade?
60s: Bill Russell vs Wilt vs Oscar
70s: Kareem vs Moses Malone
80s: Magic vs Bird vs Isiah
90s: Jordan vs Karl Malone vs Hakeem
00s: Shaq vs Kobe vs Tim Duncan
10s: Lebron vs KD vs Curry
For me 1 question was the easiest jordan all day
i’d say mitchell over simmons because the clutch gene. Ben put up 1 point in a playoff game while Donovan was leading the jazz
KOT4Q was my favorite RUclipsd until
No Overtime was made
You won’t pin it ^
Stop talking to youself
Yourself*
Oops forgot to use my burner
We need part 2, come on Kenny
Pete Marivach is the goat. No we never got to watch him play but hearing stories, watching videos and highlights. He has the highest work ethic more then anyone in the league.
G.O.A.T
what the actual fuck are you smoking?
1A) Jordan
1B) LeBron
They are both incredible players that dominated their generation equally as much. They both have highs and lows, so it is difficult to judge the two without seeing them play each other in their prime.
Lebron
Curry
Healthy Kawhi
KD
Prime Chris Paul
Jimmy B
Klay
Dame
Embiid
Mitchell
Rudy
1. Jordan
2. James
3. Hakeem
4. Kareem
5. Wilt
6. Russell
7. Robertson
8. Magic
9. Duncan
10. Bird
13. Malone
Rudy Gobert "hasnt developed an offensive game" but still averaged more points than Draymond and at a much higher field goal percentage. Rudy Gobert is one of those players whose impact flies under the radar. His Jazz team is rarely put on tv so people dont see that he's more than just a rim protector
*My answers:*
*1. Michael Jordan*
*2. Stephen Curry*
*3. James Harden*
*4. Kevin Durant*
*5. Kyrie Irving*
*6. Jimmy Butler*
*7. Klay Thompson*
*8. Damian Lillard*
*9. DeMarcus Cousins*
*10. Ben Simmons*
*11. Draymond Green*
*P.S: You said 63% for Kevin Durant when it was 67%*
I’m saying both. Honestly can’t decide
Your completely undervaluing Donovan Mitchell’s defense, they were ranked number 2 in the league when we watched them in the playoffs he was the one who stepped up to defend Russ and James Harden.
Scoring is the most important part of basketball(other than defense).The only reason ppl think ben simmons is a better defender is cause he is bigger.Also spida was picked 13 soully for his defensive potential
Kenny 2 months ago : I got to say that Demar Derozan over Thompson. The power of a sweep 😪
Which RUclipsr is the best?
KOT4Q
Lostnunbound
Mike Korzemba
CashNasty
TDPresents
Khristopher London
Troydan
Kevin Durant
Jesser The Lazer
Bron vs Jordan is so close for me. I say if he pulls off a few wins this series he will be the GOAT for me
Who's Better:
Jonathon Simmons on Spurs
Fred Van Fleet on Raptors
MJ was top-10 in dpoy voting ten times while also being the scoring champion. That's a decade worth of seasons as the best scorer and a top ten defender in the league, no other player can say that, hes the GOAT enough said.
In the corner of the video the little “I” icon should’ve had each question
Lebron travels and then charges every time and he also complains when he doesn't get a call
Dude can you make some reaction videos in nba games or highlights compilations... I really love your vids and im curious on your thoughts
1. Jordan
2. Curry
3. Kawhi(when healthy)
4. KD(for now)
5. CP3 barely
6. Jimmy Butler
7. Klay
8. Dame
9. Embiid(bias)
10. Ben Simmons(bias)
11. Draymond
1. LeBron James
2. Stephen Curry
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Kevin Durant
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Jimmy Butler
7. Klay Thompson
8. John Wall
9. DeMarcus Cousins
10. Ben Simmons
11. Draymond Green
HOLD ONNN kenny you said dononvan mitchell is a better scorer and ben simmons is more of an all around player correct, Michael is a better scorer and LBJ is more of an all around player. caught you in that 1 huh. STILL MY FAVORITE RUclipsR ALL LOVE AND RESPECT
how come brian scalebrine is not in this video?
LeBron is better in my mind because he is still getting better. Also, LeBron is just a better off-court player and has never realy been in drama or got on trouble. On top of that he has been to the finals more with bad teams, though some can argue he has been in a bad conference, which is true, but his teams have usually just been him, and it is impresive for 1 person to carry his teams to the finals. He has done it when he was younger, and now, when he is older.
Greysen G wdym usually? He's been on his own once in 07. He had love this year who did come up big in several games and has had a big 3 every other finals he's been in.
Also I agree lebron is a better role model and shit off the court but that doesn't factor in to who's better
Josh well when the warriors had one their 1st champ, kyrie and love were injured in the finals. The real good teams he had were the 3-1 cavs and maimi, which is 5 out of 9 times he had good teams. He has been to the finals with average-below average players 4 times when michael has only been to the finals 6 times in total. Yes he has lost 5 and this may be his 6 time losing, but he still has carried teams with only decent players at the most. The 2nd best player is kevin love, who has not been that good, though he is playing better these playoffs.
Josh also a better role model can factor in. For example the gilbert areans situation ruined his whole carrer
Greysen G that wasn't being a bad role model that was posing a danger to the team. And if nobody took action against that gun situation it wouldn't have effected him. It's not that situation that ruined his career it's how I was handled
Greysen G the cavs last year were a great team too. So that leaves him with 3 teams that weren't so good that he dragged to the finals. 07 was impressive undoubtedly but the competition was pretty lackluster. In the year GS one their first ring he had a good team until the conference finals. I'll admit again that series against the Hawks was very impressive. Then this year to be fair Kevin love has had some excellent games and again the competition hasn't been great. Indiana, a projected lottery team who's main star Oladipo played poorly, Toronto who repeatedly chokes against Bron and Boston without their two stars
Kobe did the same thing in 2010 that LeBron did this year carry a team with only 1 all star other that themselves to the Championship, play against a team with 4 all stars (Kobe played the Celtics with Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen) but the thing was... Kobe actually won(.)
E G That Celtics team ain't shit to the golden state warriors
And we back..... with another fire video
Kenny needs to be an Sports Commentator get this man a Job NBA.
I would choose Donovan Mitchell over Ben Simmons, because he doesn’t really have really good help while in Philly Ben has an all star teammate, and vet, and more young cores
agreed with you on most of them except i would pick lbj over mj, cp3 over kyrie, and harden over kawhi. harden has actually become a pretty good 1 on 1 defender, and can do way more on offense than kawhi can.
No way you’ll reply but I wanna hear other people’s opinions too.. is this a good pg list? 1. Curry 2. Westbrook 3. Kyrie 4. Paul 5. Wall 6. Dame. I think that’s the most accurate list of the best pointguards in the nba. Please don’t be bias, just agree or disagree, and say why.
1. LeBron
2. Curry
3. Leonard
4. KD
5. Kyrie
6. PG13
7. Demar
8. Lillard
9. Cousins
10. Simmons
11. Draymond
Steph Curry is better than Westbrook because the Warriors are 1 and 9 without Curry
Tbh I didn't even realize that he said he was an NBA player until he edited it😞😞😞
Jordan is better, and greater. Lebron is just size. Jordan is just skill.
I feel like the people saying ben simmonds is the better player than Donovan Mitchell because he is a better all around player use the opposite logic to say jordan is better than lebron
Derozan > Klay
Dame > Wall
Mitchell > Simmons
*Klay Thompson > DeMar Derozan*
*Damian Lillard > John Wall*
*Ben Simmons > Donovan Mitchell*
I dont know if i will choose simmons over mitchell . Donovan has 6'10 wingspan and he is playing good diffense . U can check the stats from the playoffs
5:21 Hold up, Harden is definitely the most complete offensive player in the league. It’s very hard to find a flaw in his offensive game
tdurgan19 his post game
He’s an incredible offensive threat but KDs #1 easy
tdurgan19 he shoots 44% from the field. And 1/3 of his points come from the free throw line. He’s number 5 to me but that’s just my opinion
The playoffs
tdurgan19 KD can do everything offensively with a struggle
My favorite clip is when James Harden lost a shoe, and it was a perfect excuse not to play defense. He just slowly walked with his shoe and played no defense. LOL
Tell me I’m wrong the Ben Simmons and Donovan Mitchell conversation is almost the same conversation as Lebron James and Michael Jordan
Quick WOULD YOU RATHER 🤔?!
Bradley Beal or CJ McCollum
Kyle Lowry or Mike Conley
Giannis or Karl Anthony Towns
Blake Griffin or Porzingis
Carmelo Anthony or Tobias Harris
Just some i thought of comment your opinion
Beal slightly tho im a heat fan so i see more of beals play
Regular Season Lowry Playoffs Conley u want consistentcy(hope thats how u spell it) go with conley
Giannis
Porzingis
Tough one but imma give the edge to melo
That intro was funny he was like I do t play no more
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