Jim Cornette on Steve "Mongo" McMichael
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- From Episode 189 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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My favorite Mongo line came from the 85 Bears 30 for 30.
"I got cut by the Patriots because they said I was out all night in the Combat Zone partying....and I was"
“And I wasn’t ashamed of it. Being a red-blooded, American male.”
@@jonathancarlson6127 Haha love that quote.
"Now listen ... Mongo is ready to wrestle" - Steve Mongo McMichael
😂😂😂 he wasn't ever ready
Thank you guys for reading my comment! Haha and I appreciate the beginning, absolutely loved that 😂😂 Jim Cornette saying my name in any sense especially a roasting way is fantastic
So that was you
@@LIONPRINCE2001 yes and I loved it lol
Questioner X, is that you?
@@sinicalypse yes
@@sinicalypse Graham Schweikerton
My fiancé was diagnosed almost 2 years ago. 31 years old, mother of two kids. Wouldn’t wish this hell on my worst enemy.
Yeah, Mongo wasn’t the greatest in the ring, but watch his matches, he WAS OVER with EVERY crowd! He would get pops during matches that other guys would have dreamed to have. His personality was 100% a horseman. He never was gonna have 5 star classics, but he was damn entertaining in ring and on the mic.
@@MrDinghus totally agree.
Agree. Too bad he didn't spend a little time in wrestling school before hitting the ring but it was what it was. He had the charisma for sure. Kind of the opposite of Jeff Jarett, who could work, but couldn't draw heat/attention if his life depended on it.
I was lucky enough to meet many of the Bears players back in 1991 and Steve McMichael was so incredibly nice, I will never forget it. I didn't care if he was a skilled wrestler or not. I marked out when he showed up in WCW and I tried not to miss anything he did.
Who remembers Mongo's Briefcase of Doom? It was so powerful, it would send his opponent flying even if it didn't come anywhere close to connecting.
Mongo is a really nice guy who could tell a story as good as Jim. I wish him well in his fight over ALS.
God bless you, Mongo. My thoughts and prayers are with you, your wife and the rest of your family and friends, Sir.
ALS is horrible.
The mother of my brother-in-law was just withering away, it was heartbreaking.
So your mother in law......
@@MikeSmith-zo6eu Not necessarily. If Hilversumborn's sister was married to the guy, he'd still be his brother-in-law, but no, the mother mentioned wouldn't be his mother-in-law.
It's one of the most ugly diseases on the planet, just awful!!!
@@MikeSmith-zo6eu No lol. If my sister gets married to her boyfriend, he would be my brother in law. His mother would not be my mother in law hahaha.
@@thelastmotel so what do u call her then, your sisters mother in law?? Like u can have 2 grandmas and 2 grandpas, u can have 2 mother/father in laws
Jim's comment on Debra was great "hey, let's keep this positive" LMAO
Ofcourse Jim will not talk about Debra he has to protect his wife beater friend.
What's wrong with Debra?
@@smoky3302 which one?
@@bitplaya7432 the famous one.
@@smoky3302 doesn't narrow it down
I just found about this tragic turn of events 2 days ago when I saw a recent interview with McMichael. Holy $ hit. He doesn't even resemble the person he was in the 80's and 90's. he is literally withering away and doesn't even have the use of his arms anymore. Terribly sad, but he is taking it in stride and appears to be at peace with what lies ahead while being tremendously appreciative of the life he has led. Very brave outlook and a stark reminder to all of us to live our lives to the fullest during the time we have. None of us knows how much time is left so it is imperative to stop procrastinating and saying "what if". Squeeze the maximum value out of every day. Your health is your most valuable asset.
When Mongo was with the Horsemen, I never felt like his clunky in-ring work really hurt him that much. He wrestled a half-brawling style that was pretty much exactly what someone might expect from a big, burly football player. And working as a heel, being the brawling bully enforcer who powers through guys when he has the advantage, but who can get out-muscled by the bigger babyfaces and out-wrestled by the smaller ones, is kind of a perfect spot to be in. Especially when he was surrounded by top-tier workers who could already bring that part of the show to tag team matches.
He would have met him at Wrestlemania 11. Mongo was one of the NFL players in LT's corner.
They still might not have met.
@@mikescott8903 yea i was just saying if they did, it would have been then
@@andreslopez2624 ah ok. I would have figured they would be more likely to run into each other at raw but ya they had a few chances to run into each other
@@mikescott8903 possibly, but Jim wasnt always at the Raw tapings in early 95 becasue he was still doing Smokey Mountain so i figured WM11 was more likely
@King Slayer so Ernie Ladd, was a disgrace?
“You calling me a cream puff Kama?” - Mongo
man I saw that the other day, and he talked about how you can think you superman and then life shows you how human you are, MAN
I wouldn't wish ALS on my worst enemy. Best wishes to him.
yeah. you don't ever get better. you just get worse and worse. it's not quick, either.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 Yeah. That's one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 They can see the train coming but can't get off the tracks. They have no choice but let it run its course.
I would but not on smm
I would definitely wish it on my ex.
"Look at this venue here! This place is apropo and that don't mean your digging around in the dirt with farm implements baby!" -That's our Mongo
Proffesor Stephen Hawking suffered from ALS. Most people once diagnosed only have a few years. The Proffesor lived decades on. Only passed away a couple years ago.
ALS really sucks but if there is the smallest silver lining it's that Steve can hear people say all the nice things about him that most people don't get said about them until they pass away. Big love to you, Mongo!
Remember him having a fight with Kama on RAW around the WrestleMania 11 era
Mongo was memorable on Nitro back in 1995 with his little chihuahua on commentary. He actually captured the WCW United States Championship. Sad to hear about him these days, poor guy.
My favorite Mongo moment in wrestling is when he called Bobby “The Brain” Heenan Bobby “The Stain” Heenan.
Amyotrophic = No Muscle nourishment
Lateral Sclerosis = Sclerosis/dysfunction of the cortical spinal tract in the spine, aka motor control is gone
Like anything, if you are not using it, bc u physically cannot, the nerves are blocked/cannot work, u lose it, so they lose muscle/atrophy, can barely speak bc they lose many nerve functions, and cannot use arms or legs when it gets bad, again you become a brick basically
Sucks bc u can feel things, u have sensory, and pain and temp, but u can’t react to them, u can’t move
Perhaps the classic case is not Lou Gehrig, but Steven Hawking
So then what?
Loved Mongo's selling in the ring. Sorry to hear of his present condition 😔
Mongo was thrown into pro wrestling without much training. With that to consider, he was very impressive.
Dennis Rodman was a very underrated wrestler IMO.
Agreed.
Kevin Green was shockingly good.
Jay Leno was much better, though.
Maybe his teammate Jimbo Covert (who was a high school all American in wrestling) taught him the concepts of leverage and grappling
The non-wrestlers who respected pro wrestling and were fans performed the best.
Mongo should be in the NFL hall of fame. Was on the greatest defense ever. Had 9 seasons with 7+ sacks as a DT in a run heavy Era. Finishing with 95 sacks total. That puts him as 46th on all time sack list but just about everyone in front of him is a DE or LB.
2 all pro seasons. He just gets overshadowed by The Fridge and Singletary.
Good point........ Richard Dent, Singletary and the fridge got all the attention,
Dent and Hampton was on DL with Mongo. Mongo not in HOF because NFL dose not like his attitude back in the day.
They did the Ice Bucket challenge around 2014 to raise awareness and funds. ALS also took Stephen Hillenburg the creator of SpongeBob SquarePants
It taking stephen hillenburg still upsets me spongebob was my childhood and the bears are my favorite pro team, als has really affected people I've really admired
The ice bucket challenge passes me off. A lot of good those jackasses did pouring water over themselves. Yeah, BIG help.
@@thebigz3786 I believe the deal was that you were challenged to do it. if you didnt go through with it you had to donate $100 to the ALS Foundation.
@@sc30002001 yup all true. It still didn't do anything at all. Not for my mom anyway.
Mongo was great, cause he introduced us 2 debra and her puppies
Always loved the puppies ❤
Partied with Steve and Deborah A Bunch From 82'-06'. Just Great Friends now! Romeoville,Illinois Mongo McMichael come support Steve!
Mongo was a great promo and a half-decent "enforcer" role in the horsemen, when the horsemen went away for a brief period in 97/98 and he was left as a single, his inexperience in the ring showed but I tihink he acutally brought something to the table as a horseman.
agree 100?%
he fit perfectly as a horseman
I had a huge group of WCW guys come in my club back in the 1990s. Chris Jericho Chris Benoit Eddie Guerrero - a few other people- Steve McMichael was one of the group.
Out of every wrestler that came in that night, he was the friendliest and the nicest and seem to have the most fun. He seem like he loved what he was doing, and he enjoyed meeting people. All the other guys were respectable but he was the most memorable.
this guy had some of the best pro football , pro wrestling , and strip club stories ever told. and he would gladly share them with just about any fan who approached him. such a great humble man to fans. also was a hell of a pro football player. he was overshadowed big time by singletary, hampton and dent 3 hall of famers that played with him on the same defense. he has some very serious pro football accolades to his credit including being a 5 time All Pro.
My mom lost two sisters to ALS. It’s absolutely a horrible disease
Damn sorry to hear...it’s scary how we know so little about it, especially not knowing what factors increase the risk of being diagnosed with it.
Mongo LOOKED like a star, was an ACTUAL star, and a perfect fit for the Horsemen. I don't care if he couldn't work, Ric Flair would want to hang out with someone like Mongo before he hung out with vanilla midgets like Benoit and Malenko.
Was shocking to see how thin he's gotten :/
His muscles are atrophying, basically slowing thinning out, bc he cannot use them, his nerves that control motor movement are dysfunctional,
Like the old saying goes, if u don’t use it, the muscles, u lose it,
He didn't look good doing that guest ref spot in TNA many years back.
@@Hi-kq1vi I'll be honest, forgot that one. 2008 Bound for Glory where he did the football moves right? He was really outta shape but would prefer that to him looking for frail :(
Prayers to "Mongo" and his Family!!!
I thought he was a better commentator than wrestler. He wasn't the best but he held his own.
His reaction when Madusa showed up dumping the WWF women's belt in the trash was great. Then he said something about them losing their minds in Connecticut.
Very sad to hear this news.
He was probably the worst Commentator of all time and couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper bag. My man has delusions of mediocrity.
Very sad of the illness I hope he can survive it, he would have made a hell of a manager to the horsemen instead of a wrestler
shit i didnt even notice mongo i always looked at brain. even he was shocked😂😂
@@universe-ie2mk McMichael threw down his pencil in disgust with his dog in his other arm.
@@LuchadorMasque Eh he was still better than Corey Graves and God forbid Michael Cole. I almost forgot about JBL.
Wait seriously they actually think ALS is a football related disease talk about sheltered geeez it has nothing to do with concussions or CTE
Steve McMichael was a reason I loved WCW. He had a personality in the ring. He was entertaining and interesting.
The interview he did with walter payton's son made me sad. Prayers for him and his family.
Heenan: Mongo, I’ve never seen someone fall so far so fast.
Mongo: Bobby, don’t measure me by your limitations.
Mongo has one of the best personalities overall as a human being. You can tell the man could control a room with his energy alone. Hell of a football player who later joined announcing and then wrestled and became a member of the Horsemen. Met him a few times at some Bears conventions and so on and couldn’t have met a better dude!
Wouldn't Jim have crossed paths with Mongo during the Bam Bam/LT Mania buildup?
Mongo was an awesome to me as a kid. Sad to hear this
Just to add to Brian Last’s point about Lou Gehrig’s concussions. He did not just have concussions playing football at Columbia University. Gehrig also had concussions from playing baseball (they did not have batting helmets back then, so those hit by pitches to the head were really awful), but Gehrig kept playing on even while injured (the man was the Iron Horse).
ALS Lou Gerhig's Disease is named for Lou Gerhig bcz he was the first high profile person to be diagnosed, it is A progressive neurological disorder which results in weakened muscles and deformity.
How common is condition?
Very rare (Fewer than 20,000 cases per year in US)
It is one of Muscular Dystrophy Association type illnesses, like the Jerry Lewis MDA Labor Telethon
20,000 per year seems like a lot, no offense but it does seem like a lot. ?
@@Willverinerage compared to the millions of cases of Hypertension, Diabetes, High Cholesterol, etc, diagnosed each yr, 20,000 is not even 10% of a normal town population, compared to the 300 million people in the US
Willverinerage : 20K in a nation of 330 million is .0061% of the population, so it is exceptionally rare. Just for comparison, the leading cause of death in the US is heart disease which kills approximately 500,000 people per year out of millions diagnosed with it. The 20k is just the number of cases per year. The number of annual deaths from ALS are a small subset of that, but it is an absolutely horrific disease.
I'm sorry to hear 1994 Green Bay Packer has this cruel disease. Good thoughts to Mongo!
I think mongo was a Chicago bear football player
@@andyleetheriault he probably played for the pack in 1994 I guess I dont know
He played most of his career for the Bears, but did end up in GB at the end. As a Bears fan, it didn't matter to me, he was such a big part of that 85 Super Bowl team, and such a larger than life character.
Mongo is a man's man.
@@thomass789 only one football team in history gave up less points than the 85 Bears and less rushing yards
He did play with GB for one year at the end. He once said he only signed with them so he could hit GB QBs every day in practice. Always had a great line 😂
He wasn't very good in the ring but I liked him cause you could always see that he was genuinely trying to do his best and actually really enjoyed it. RIP Mongo.
I'll still make my planned Debra comment but keep it respectful and positive out of respect for Mongo. Debra was and still is one of wrestling's most beautiful women and she never became Sable 2.0. She stayed in the areas where her talents were. IF she'd have made a move to a different role, it would have needed to be as a backstage interviewer, ala Terri Runnels. As long as she didn't HAVE to raise her voice much it was tolerable. From what I understand, she was naturally funny and was quick witted with the fans and the boys and was respectful with everyone, she didn't have heat with any of the Women's division that I'm able to think of.
Honestly shocked that the art wasn't a Blazing Saddles reference.
Nevermind that shit, there goes Mongo 😭
Candygram for Mongo.
DAMNIT Last, we've just finished composing ourselves, this is a respectful topic 😂😭😂
I loat my shit there. 😆🤣😂
"Never mind that shit, here comes Mongo"
I would want Steve Mongo MCMichael deserve to be playable WCW legend of being
The 4 Horsemen Ric Flair Dusty Rhodes Steve Mongo MCMichael and different members
Tommy wildfire Rich
Austin Idol
Andre the Giant as 4 Horsemen of next video game to next future WWE and 2k creator team.
Mongo was a personality that fit perfectly in to wrestling. Was he good in the ring? No. But his personality carried him over. He did respect the business which is why he wanted to be a part of it. His diagnoses is heartbreaking cause as the disease progresses he won't be able to showcase that personality anymore.
Honestly Mongo is a great guy! I actually donated to his go fund me. Mongo brought me a lot of joy on the football field and wrestling ring.
Jim Cornette my favorite manager of all times
Mongo had so much charisma in his prime. He was a natural villain pro wrestler.
He still has that charisma.
As a life long bears fan, I first started watching them as a kid in 85. That team made me fall in love with football. Not just because they were a great team, but that team had some characters, and Mongo was one of the most over the top. People absolutely love him here in Chicago. It sucks to see what he looks like now, I didn't even recognize him. He's always been a big guy, now he looks so weak and frail.
@@Runforestrun I remember watching the 85 super bowl with my dad, Bears were his team, he used to have it recorded on VHS too back in the day.
@@Runforestrun all athletes do.. they have very limited polished physiques, but a few years after they leave their sports they look way worse than any average guy
God bless him and his family always liked Mongo on monday night nitro
Word? Why?
@@LuchadorMasque hes got Als I believe
@@brianharrington4400 that's unfortunate. He was a terrible wrestler and an even worse announcer. He ruined every bit of film he graced.
Yes, Chesterton! I'm near that town and we're near Chicago. (Yes, we can all file that under "Who Gives a Shit?")
Mongo calling out the worst MLB umpire in history, Angel Hernandez, before "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" is a classic.
Mongo can no longer do anything without the help of his wife and family. Keeping Mongo in my thoughts and prayers! Thanks for entertaining us on the field and in the ring!
I wrote some comedy sketches based around Mongo...I was living in Chicago and he was on the sportsball radio a lot...he worked his gimmick, but was always great with the people...an original, to be sure...
I know 2 ppl who have ALS amd it's very tragic b/c both men are wonderful ppl.
I hope he'll be okay.McMichael was a pretty okay mid card guy.He at least tried in wrestling and put up with that pain in the rear Debra.All the best to Mongo.
He was at wrestlecade when you were there. You said you should have had a bell because I was the first one to buy your DVD’s. He didn’t look well then.
None of which explains why the picture is of Cornette with JR wearing a wig.
video starts at 1:23 they need to just get on with the question.
Mongo was a seventh inning guest singer of take me out to the ball game at Wrigley field.... he was ejected by the umpire... lol
Worst disease there is. Thats all I will say. Good luck & God bless Mongo.
I liked Mongo. Not the best in the ring of course, but I never heard he was reckless or hurt anyone. He was good enough in the ring that his character filled in the rest, and I always thought he was fun to watch.
So Mongo got the Nitro gig because he was so impressive on Raw? I didn't know that. Always wondered why this random retired football star got such a high profile announcing job with no experience. It was probably Bischoff trying to keep him from the WWF. He... sucked at announcing. I've been watching the Monday Night Wars on the network and my brother kept asking "when does he become a wrestler?" He had the personality part of being a wrestler down pat. He had good promos and if you just tuned in and saw him being interviewed he wouldn't stand out as inexperienced. And a guy with a great personality who isn't a great wrestler is nothing new and lots of guys like that got over. You just need to book them so they don't have to do long technical wrestling matches. They also usually get over better than the guys who can wrestle but don't have any personality. Morph Mongo and fellow Horseman Dean Malenko into one wrestler and you'd have a superstar.
I always enjoyed his matches
My thoughts and prayers are with Mongo and his family 🙏🏼😔
Mongo is a class act! I got to see him wrestle at nearly every wcw show i attended and he did not disappoint!
Mongo was a horseman he was legit
I was a young teen when Mongo got added into the Horsemen. I didn't get it. I thought he sucked. After a year or so, I started to learn about how much work he put in with The Bears. 2x Pro-Bowl. SB Champ. All around cool dude.
Wish Mongo McMichael the best.
Jason Becker has beat the odds and is still living with ALS he got in his early 20’s while on tour with David Lee Roth. I am saddened by Mongo getting this terrible disease. My thoughts are with him and the family.
Mongo was a special guest referee in a tag match involving Beer Money. Not sure if Cornette was still there in TNA
Mongo obviously didn't fit as a Horsemen in the ring but he totally fit with his personality, still much better than Paul Roma and Kendall Windham
Cornette fans trash better wrestlers, but praise MONGO??? ROFL 😆
Take off the nostalgia glasses already
What about wrestlemania 11 in 1995? Mongo was part of LT's group...
Thank you for the Topic.
I had front row seats at Nitro In Cincinnati the night Rick Rude was on Raw and Nitro the same night. The reason I mention this, when Steve McMichael was wrestling that night he was pushed against the railing and he whipped back and I was a bit to close to the rail, and was lightly head butted with the back of his head (it was just luck for me that the angle he was swung into the railing was just an inch or two to the left of me, or I would have been in some serious pain
He was at wrestlemania 11
I would love to hear Bishoff thoughts on this subject
ruclips.net/video/Mqly4BN6HQ0/видео.html
@@jeffjackson9679 thanks!
Steve was an awesome football player, & he was no Lou Thesz or Verne Gagne in the ring, BUT he was better than Hogan in my opinion.
Mongo is going into the football hall of fame today 👌💯
Wasn’t the best wrestler but his promos were great in getting you hyped maybe he should been a manager to the Horsemen during that time
McMichael was OK. Terrible on commentary, looked threatening, worked hard, never should've been a Horsemen but I understand why they chose him, I suppose.
Obviously, they were much better wrestlers. With that being said "Mongo" give it his all in the ring and promos. The Ultimate result can be debated. With that being said "Mongo" never phoned it in.
Mongo wasn't a great wrestler but he was far from the worst. He was an interesting character and I LIKED him as a Horseman.
Even though I liked Mongo McMichael, it was surprising that Refrigerator Perry, another member of the hallowed 1985 Bears, never pursued wrestling further after his WrestleMania II appearance
Steven Hawking had ALS.
Steve McMichael is going into the NFL Hall of Fame.
FORGET THAT SHIT......HERE COMES MONGO
Concussions don't have anything to do with it. Guy I knew I found out later died from it was a guitarist. Incidentally Schweigert was the Great Scott's real name...
Okay I wasn't expecting him to beat Eddie Guerrero who have thought about at 36
Sorry to hear this. I always enjoyed Mongo in WCW. Praying for you, Steve. Hook 'Em.
Questioner X from Parts Unknown
Cornette probably met him at WM 11 he was in the group of football bplayers including reggie white who were in LTs corner