How to Deal With the QUEENSLAND POLICE While FILMING in PUBLIC
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- You'd think that filming in public in Queensland would be straightforward - not quite! There's a bunch of laws that dictate what you can and can't do. This video is a quick guide to your rights.
#queenslandpolice #filminginpublic #australianpolice
Disclaimer: The information presented in this documentary is based on current Queensland law and regulations, however you should always consult a law professional for further information and legal guidance.
Australia needs more More MORE video's like this ✅👍
You can film police you just cant get in the area, where they are working and be forced to move back out the way!
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 You can film them as a record if they try to arrest you or a friend.?
@@unclewazza777 If they are arresting you its going to be disrupted when they command you drop the thing so they can cuff you or you get another charge! the friend can but they better move back when they where told or they will be getting arrested too!
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 More and more a police state. And because we have been disarmed we can't even fight back.
Police can quickly become aggressive when approached by 90 year old women in walking frames.
Oof. Too soon! I’ve a friend from up that way. He says the cop won’t set foot in town for life, if he knows what’s good for him. The dumb shit has left a nasty bitterness in his wake. Fuck knows what he was thinking.
“Bugger it” he said right before tasering her.
He’s still on bail and next hearing is October 4th. They waiting on post-mortem results. Let’s hope charges are upgraded to at least manslaughter
NSW police are the solution for Australia's age care system.
@@bretloyd8097 you’re terrible, Muriel…
If you are unlucky or just get a cop on a bad day then you are pretty much fuckd regardless off wat you may or may not be doing. They kill and get away with it....worse in other country's so aus is probably a safer place 2 reside.
There is one popular YT channel where the operator regularly posts some vision taken inside some of our largest train stations. This individual commands my respect because he either stops filming or turns a different direction so as to not show anyone that can be identified. While he does not need to do this he is absolutely showing respect for his fellow citizen.
‘Wait until the little brats pass’. 😂😂😂. Thanks for the info Rob.
The little brats with guns and badges?
In my experience as a journalism student, you are allowed to film QLD Police, but they don't like it and will menace you if you do it.
And that is why you do not speak to them, other than to ask, " Do you believe that I am performing an unlawful act?". Do not give them any excuse to twist your words.
Your compassion for little children is commendable.
Rob mate, I hope you haven't had any bad experiences lately.
Love your work, keep it up, you are the BOMB 👍🏼 😎 ⛳
@darbeeroyal8503 No bad experiences at all. I follow my own advice about using common sense and I'm always respectful of private property. Thanks for kind words too!
Great video! I have had my own run ins with the police while filming in public and they really have no clue about any of the laws so had to inform them.
Im 67 law abiding..nearly all of my interactions with QPS..have been dissapointing , leaving me in little doubt as to their charactor ,intellegence and motivation. The women are the worst often suddenly escalating . Untrustworthy, bullies. Under react to the serious and over react to the minor...Unbalanced..you only have to look at the taser deaths..remember they wanted tasers to save lives
Note the irony of spelling *intelligence incorrectly.
@@teeanahera8949 There was also an apostrophe missing from the first word of the comment, however I am sure that someone of your intellectual calibre would accept that a spelling mistake does not distract from the core message conveyed by the comment, which in itself is absolutely correct.
The move along order is completely backward. If you’re legally filming in a public place and someone else is becoming agitated by your lawful activity, _they_ should be the one who is moved along. Asking the one filming to move along is to suggest they are responsible for any future unlawful actions taken by someone else. Ridiculous
How to talk to the police?... Don't!
I filmed an unlawful arrest in Victoria and the police blocked my view, i called them out on it and they moved back out of my way.
My footage was then used in the official complaint against the Police.
The Man arrested had Medical Cannabis on him and a prescription. After he was arrested, the supervisor came and made the police let him go
Always film the Police, it keeps them from breaking the law.
It's best not to talk to police unless you're legally protected. POLICE 🚔 are NOT your FRIENDS. Don't argue with them. Just argue in court. They'll deliberately escalate the conflict until YOU create a public nuisance, then tell you to move on ,if you don't, you'll be arrested.Stay string by being calm. G'DAY 🇦🇺 🪃.
Dashcams record everything- without sensitivity training.
One additional thing people can get caught out by is when an apparently public area is actually managed by a private corporation and therefore not a public area in the eyes of the law, such as South Bank Parklands and Queen Street Mall here in Brisbane.
Ive seen many vlogger filming Brisbane and south-bank though. is Brisbane actually prohibited from filming as if there is something odd going on that no one knows ? Aah there's children.. So what ? we all humans what else do you expect. Ive seen many multiple vloggers and police walking by and people just film queen street and southbank and no one is stoping them. So do you have the correct information to what your saying ? Because from all videos ive seen i see people in the videos and evertything. What makes you think that you cant film at south-bank you cant film and queen st mall ? Because what i read online.... is no one stops YOU film filming southbank and queen street mall brisbane... So where do you get this impresion that you cant film around there?
Last time i remember visiting australia is Brisbane is a public place and southbank is public and no one indicated you cant film here or take photos.. Is the whole southbank and brisbane all privately own is it ? Then perhaps this starting to sound like North korea in brisbane.
Southbank is owned by a public entity... it's not Disneyland 😅
True. We were fronted by security at Eagle Street taking wedding photos. I wanted to have a go at him about publicly accessible areas but when he discovered that the reception was being held in a venue there it was apparently absolutely fine to take as many photos as we liked.
National parks what a fking joke...🤬🤬🤬
Thanks Rob, clear and concise as always..
" move along laws" are just a way of the government getting around your rights and the sheep let them bring in this laws .
move along laws are not laws.
When they try it I like to move people on I ask the people around me if they would like the police moved on as they are the ones creating the disturbance, they don't tend to like that ...
There always that large gap between the law and common courtesy. It may not be unlawful to insult people but it is discourteous, and the same comes to filming the general public. When it comes to police we should talk to them courteously, if simply to avoid encouraging an abuse of their powers, but we should definitely film them whenever we wish. I agree wholeheartedly with this video.
"Police are highly armed and can quickly become aggressive if you disagree with them."
So even if you're polite, even if you present verifiable facts, you are still subject to the whim of an armed bully??
That's not good.
They're like that because we have no 2A.
but they act in their private capacity as the relevant police are a corporation and a dead entity , ask for their business card and a bonding number @@The_Scouts_Code
It's also not true.
Unlikely. In all my interactions, they've been kind and knowledgeable of the law.
@@kinchegayowie6167 Not private, the police are government entities. They don't have business cards, they'd have badge numbers or equivalent.
Good summary mate! My favourite thing is when you're filming a piece to camera and someone will walk behind you and stare at the camera, or they'll yell something out as they go past. But that's part of the fun of filming in public - you take the good with the bad I guess.
Queensland Police are some of the most aggressive people I have ever dealt with.
Sorry to hear that mate, police should always aim to be calm. If the police can't control their own behaviour how can they expect to control or maintain the behaviour of others, or even more broadly, maintain general social order?
I've always remembered Bondi Rescue (show) filming the lifesavers ganging up on a "creepy" man who'd been filming girls in swimmers, from his seat on a beach towel. Meanwhile, the TV crew was showing us all the bits of the girls. Sure, the guy probably was creepy, however, it was illegal what they did to him. The girls should have known that if they're in public wearing whatever, people can film or photo them.
They made him leave the beach in disgrace.
Yes indeed. It seems that the law is pushed aside in favour of TV ratings.
Yes it made me think of that too
To Edward Scissor Feet, whose comment is not showing - I'm not defending the man who wants to film the girl. He is just as bad as the girls who are walking around mostly naked. I think it's absurd for them to expect that they won't be leered at. And the double standard of the show, to do exactly what they pronounced judgement on the leering man for ... All three are in the wrong.
"once the little brats have gone" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sad times in australia!! The only time the police should have any authority over a person is if they have or are suspected of committing a crime.
With this move on order they can literally create a crime based on any reason they want. 😞
Nope! Police may only issue a move-on order if an officer believes on reasonable grounds that you are obstructing traffic, blocking another person, or (are) harassing or intimidating another person or group. Also, according to both NSW and QLD law, police must tell the person or group why they are issuing the order.
@joshuarose3186 isn't that what I said, basically a breach of the peace.
About to commit a crime harassment or impeding traffic ie a offence ?
@@jamesmusker Police must have something called "reasonable suspision" before taking lawful action. In court, a jury must agree that the suspicion the officer had that a person was about to or in the process of committing a crime was "reasonable".
This all depends on the police not being corrupt which in Australia is very rare
Lol lets take you to Mexico bro where you'll find out just what corruption really looks like.
all pollyticians, bureaucrats and cops are corrupt, the world over - only different degrees
Not sure I totally agree with notifying first nations people of my photography.
Yeah how about they notify us when taking photography of anything like our parks or homes.
Wtf are you on about Jonesy
@@sandgroperwookiee65 Well we give away majority of the country in native titles, can't enter the land without permission, and can't take photos without permission. How about THEY ask US if they can take photos of crown land. Just ridiculous.
Hi Rob. one thing most people dont know. if a Police officer seizes or takes any possession of yours, he/she MUSt, repeat MUSt give you and on the spot itemised receipt... that is the LAW. when police took away items from my shed after the 2011 floods, they refused to give me a receipt, and my complaint to the CMC resulted in the police officer being dismissed in the end. normal such a complaint is an administrative affair and he would get a cautionary or disiplinary action. but as goods i itemised and camera club members witnessed were not on the property receipt book at the police station, it became a corrumption thing. it took 2 years, but did make a note in the Local (only) newspapers.
A search Warrant has to be legitimate it has to be signed by an officer of the Crown under the Commonwealth of Australia constitution 1901.
Nope, wrong. Crime and its associated requirements are not governed by the Australian constitution, therefore these rights fall entirely with the states to the extent that they may clash with any commonwealth law. Anyway, anyone employed by the Crown is an officer of the Crown. Warrants are used differently in each state & territory as designed by their executive arm of govt. Federal warrants for alleged breaches of federal law are covered by Australian constitution.
Right to silence... Don't answer their questions, just comply with directions...thats it. They're trained to coerce you to incriminate yourself.
I do not comply with questions, I comply with directions. Catch ya 😁
"Use your common sense"...Something a certain class of people don't exhibit when dealing with Police.
They are PIGS. They need pushback.
common sense rules the day, but sadly common sense isn't so common anymore 😱. great video Rob and much love 🤗🙏💕😁
Oh Rob, What have you done, The comments are on Fire mate, Well Done. T-Rocks
@t-rocks1960 Thanks T-Rocks. I thought it was time to look at other aspects of filming and sharing of stories.
The comments are full of sovereign citizens and people who think the American constitution applies to them, the lack of knowledge of how our system of government and separation of powers works is astounding. Knowledge of the constitution is appalling and it is a very thin document that everyone should read.
@@walkaboutwithrob Hey mate I got confused about one commenter called Rob putting shit on Queensland and I told him To F##k off and stay home then. I thought it was you but I stupidity then realised all your footage I've seen is in Qld. So It can't of been you. And you did start a very comment provoking informative conversation. Well done. But you got some weird haters. One about how you helped all perverts with information. That guy needs to be on a watch list of some type.
@@RandomRants525 No worries. I would never dump of QLD. It's awesome and just gets better by the day! Being a content creator we know that getting haters and nutters and oddballs comes with the territory.
@@walkaboutwithrob NO probs bro. I was born in NT but from 7 on North QLD. ALMOST all of Australia is amazing. Why haters gotta hate? That 'Thepeadophileprophit' guy was a weird one. I wouldn't let anyone I didn't know in my house in case it's him, from now on. WOW. I wonder what my haters will say if I ever get any comments on my stuff that is. I would appreciate the laugh though.
At the end of the day, the "move on" allowance means the police can stop you filming anywhere in public. They just can't arrest you unless you refuse to leave.
Nope! they have tried the whole stop and move on while i did a shoot in southbank brisbane years ago. I politely handed over the laws which i carry a printed copy, then asked what in this list am i breaking? They tried all kind of BS and even tried to seize my equipment and cards.
The Move On Order is only used by police if you were disturbing the general public by filming like filming kids at a playground, filming people a the beach etc. If you were just filming yourself and not trying to harass anyone they wouldn't care
@@DK33236 or if you annoy them or any business owner or official.
I was photographing in streets of Sydney . Wow about every second person yelled out. Are you filming me ????
But the same muppets go to the supermarket with cameras filming them from all angles
Best advice you noted was avoid getting into an argument with police. People in positions of power (depending on their level of narcisim/sadism) enjoy "exercising " their "power" even when it's unwarranted or their conduct itself leads to them making allegations of "breaching the peace" etc. If they want to behave like children don't play along. Be polite and cordial in order to decrease the duration of the interaction. 👍🇦🇺
Ask 2 questions
Am I under arrest?
Am I free to go?
Cut straight to the point, don't get involved with any conversation or argument because they love to get people talking to incriminate themselves
Keep asking until you get the answers you need.
I’ve filmed the police 3 times and they threatened to take my phone each time. I was lucky enough that there was no crime just a neighbor dispute and was able to call their bluff. The most satisfying was when being told that, asking “evidence of what crime?” *LOUD SILENCE*
Always Film The Police.
For yourself and others.
I see there's a big dollar recruitment program for Qld Police at the moment.
High numbers of overseas police have successfully applied.
So if you're an overseas cop, about to lose your job for some transgression, but you resign first, does the Qld Police Department pick that up???
Or are we just importing problems for the sake of filling a uniform??
Now the community would really really like to know the answer to that, but the politicians, and the police department, DILLIGAF!
Yes, you cant film in national parks so as to protect the privacy of yowies and koalas.
Especially on the gold coast, the national capitol of homeless koalas.
As it is written: " The gold coast city council recognise this new housing estate decimated of habitat the traditional home of koalas.
Regarding kids that you or a parent you are with, this is common sense advice. Thank you.
Thanks Rob. There goes my 'Dunnies with Jimmy' channel idea though
@jimmyp1433 As long as you don't film people on those dunnies, you'll be in the clear.
Bet the 'move on/along' orders are never abused.
Where ever you see CCT Cameras in public spaces you are free to film ! Don't be afraid to film in public ~ If you are stopped by Police , you do not have to give a reason for filming as long as you are in a public place and you can view it on Google Earth. As the majority of footage you capture will not be used for financial gain. We are all Keepers of the Earth !
Gosh, and here I was thinking that they could just do whatever they want, atleast here on the Gold Coast (sarc). Made a complaint to the police (female officer with a distinct attitude (well there's a suprise)) about a neighbour with seriously anti-social psychiatric issues who thought it was her right to film me through my front door. Said female cop advised me that there's nothing she could (aka would) do about it and that I should stop wasting police time.
Ah yeah, gotta love Gold Coast police. Thankfully I've not had many dealings with them but the few times I have were all painfrully frustrating. Rude, ignorant, condescending and "You will respect my authority".
I think you will find she was right as in they can not stop someone filming anything that can be seen from public, as long as they are not on your property there is little that can be done. People can film into your house but it is an offence to intentionally record someone in their bathroom or other places where you expect some level of privacy. If you have glass doors and large windows then it is up to you to create and maintain your own privacy.
all of a sudden when some kids come into the shot... 'Oh damn!'
This video has been up for four months now, yet I’m curious as to where the spike in the really critical and downright abusive comments here have all originated from?
The video seemed pretty straightforward to me, particularly to those who don’t know where they may stand with law enforcement.
Anyhow Rob, keep up the videos! 😁
Yes, I made the video to be straightforward and helpful to those who may not know the laws. As to why and when the spike happened, I'm not sure because the video seems to come and go. Over the past couple of days it has shot up in views. I have no idea why.
@@walkaboutwithrob
it's the screwyoutube Al-Gore-Rhythm
"Wait til the little brats have passed" haha, gold
Police immediately confiscated My phone once I tried to film Interigation.
I was placed in Handcuffs.
Then falsely arrested charged.
On bail. Awaiting trail.
Innocent.
By interrogation do you mean at the scene or in the police station? Because if it was at the scene and you stayed calm and didn't resist then you should get off but I don't know what compensation you can go for. In Merica they can get up to 500k and more. But at cop shop room you definitely can't have a camera there. I hope you weren't injured and you get the justice you deserve.Keep us updated mate.
@@RandomRants525I should be able to record every step of the justice process.
Return all contracts in 3 day`s sign nothing swear no oaths never contract with your dead fiction name.
Common sense and sensible filming. Well done on the video! Cheers!!!!
In my experience the police are totally ignorant of the law (unreal I know). They also tend to be under the impression that they are the law and will use "bully boy" tactics to achieve whatever they want to.
Comments in response to this video show how little fellow Australians value their rights and freedoms
Keep up the vids Rob, loved the vid on The Spit
There is rights and freedoms then there is acting like a knob and antagonising people to provoke a reaction to justify your dislike for them.
You only have to go to your local beach and see the council signs telling you all the things you can’t do under bylaws. All freedoms are gradually eroded and most people don’t even notice or care until they wake up one day and they’re living in North Korea.
Always carry donuts with you in case of police interaction
Excellent and sensible tips, Rob.
Okay, so why was the police called in Bondi rescue when a guy was taking pictures of women on the beach?
probably because he was sitting behind his shade on the beach masturbating i reckon , you have to watch the whole episode to know this
Bondi isn't in Queensland, these were Queensland public filming laws mate.
Cos he was havin' a bat while he was filming..
Can someone tell us what the guy getting out of the crashed car did to deserve that "measured" response from that cop !!!
It was at Strathpine if it is the incident I am thinking of - from memory, the police investigation showed the vehicle driver was not following a police direction to stay in his crashed vehicle, and the policeman was justifiably stopping him from exiting the vehicle in accordance with his instruction. No charges laid against police, plenty laid against the driver...
Ask a Queensland police person to do a simple FOURTH GRADE maths question, and they will FAIL.
Can't read, can't write, can't spell, and can't punctuate......great, you can join the police forces in each Australia State.
intelligent people are hard to control
As will you. Don’t be too quick to judge moron
I'm sick and tired of being forced to pay for those that are put in power over us and then enforce compliance be penalisation to which I certainly do not consent to.
I would think that shopping centres can be considered public places as well. I'm sure that point could be argued especially as police are allowed to enforce road rules in private shipping centre car parks.
Police and other public servants really need to know their place. They are public servants and beneath us in that case
Useful video. I know what you mean about using common sense. I was waiting for a takeaway and some big burly neanderthal came over and started angrily demanding to know why I was filming his family. I was actually just scrolling pre-Elmo twitter. The moral panic is real.
You need permission to take photos in a national park? Thats insane.
Many National Parks include First Nation Cultural sites . It's about Cultural sensitivity .
You DO need permission from the Traditional Owners to Film there .
It is a national park, not a native park. You cant impose pagan blasphemy laws on christians, that might be bit bigotted, wouldnt you say?@johncunningham4820
@@johncunningham4820What cultural site? A bunch of trees? I have as much right as them to the land.
@@kaiparker1756. National Parks happen to be CROWN LAND . So technically Private Property .
There WAS a misquotation of the Law there , nonetheless , Photography in National Parks DOES require a Permit .
And there are also , quite often , Cultural Heritage sites in National Parks .
Part of the REASON the Area is a National Park in the First Place .
@@theHentySkeptic . National Parks are CROWN LAND , and so , technically Private Property .
Photography in such a place DOES require a Permit .
And , what does " Christianity " have to do with the situation ?
Sounds to me like You suffer from Religious Bigotry towards Pagans , based on your choice of words .
The only time someone was prosecuted under the Privacy Act and the Crimes Act, was a Queensland Police Detective, who "covertly" recorded other people's conversations in a public place. He could have filmed them, without any audio, and that would be fine. His "intention" (Mens Rea, a guilty mind) is the reason he was prosecuted. If it is just walking around filming, then that is not an intentional situation.
Wasn't that the William Tyrrell case ( Det Gary Jubelin) which was in NSW.
Ahhh! Common sense! I remember that.
Those were the days.
3:35 Third round of the Friday night fights. He was fairly flogging him...
The guy had done something wrong, but what he got was police brutality.
He recorded the police.
That is your punishment.
@@wizrom3046 Lesson to us all - do not film a law enforcement professional leaving Donut King...
The facts are facts Australia police system as a model is broken.
Biggest gang is the police force
There is no requirement to not use a device in any land or park and any of these codes are invalid when challenged
Yeah, they can request we notify them, but until they reference an actual section of QLD legislation, I'll be filming.
OK then we can deny their request @@Jonesy1701
The national parks thing is a joke. I am not a..owed to film a walm in a national park and put it on a commercial you tube with out their consent " in case there is a fire". However, I can go walking there with out telling anyone.
It’s less to do with that and more to appease the “first nations”. Apparently aborigines is racist now.
I think it's ridiculous and it's all about control and the indigenous people will probably start making people pay to film and have to buy special permits. I don't aggree with the way they changed the name of fraser island. To "k'gari" I have always said... it's all about money.
@@Liams_Fraser_Island_adventures
same with Ayres Rock
I would never ask permission to take pics if I’m out bush camping. Screw these mothers what are supposed to be representing the people. Not the+damn elites.
Thanks mate but I don't talk to criminal cops ❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊
Police can become aggressive . ALL THE MORE REASON TO FILM THE FILTHY ANIMALS .
Recording act from 1897 is impressive.
It is freely available online for you to read, with later 20th and 21st century amendments.
Just because its legal doesn't necessarily mean its moral. A stranger filming me on the street WILL PISS ME OFF.
According to your comment you're probably a road rager when following someone doing the speed limit ...
That's because you're special.
If that’s your problem stay at your house cause in public there is no privacy buddy and plus 99.99% of the time they not even filming you it’s you happened to be in camera frame
I believe the bard Rodney Rude wrote a song about those guys
Great information would love to see the same VIDEO for each state in AUSTRALIA
Yep , ask me about Americas Constitution or their first 5 Amendments and i rattle them off , ask me about laws in my home country , Australia, and i haven't a clue.
National parks are a public place . What are they trying to hide🤔
Exactly probably cops go there to drop off bodies and report missing persons 😂
Have heard about murders in glasshouse
illegal logging usually
We need a background story for inspiration for this video Rob 😂 love your work ❤️
@omnomnoms3 I'm afraid the background story to this video is very dull. I had an extra week before shooting my next video and wanted to make something. I had seen many debates online about what people can and can't film in public, so I decided to research the matter and make a video. Like I said, very dull.
@@walkaboutwithrob I enjoy all of your adventures and off to the side comedy haha. This video in particular I thoroughly enjoyed. Keep up the great work, and ignore the whacky comments of personal opinions that are arising.
@@TheAnkleBitersClub thanks for the support. 99% of the time people are nice, but one must expect the fringe element and the anti-socials to make an appearance here and there. It's cool.
@@walkaboutwithrob I don't think "dull" and "Rob" go in the same sentence 🤔
Are Queensland Parks Crown Land and or Government Land? If so then your Constitution rights are indeed intact and those who approach you should have Crown/ Constitutional authority and jurisdiction to do so.
Qld parks are not Crown land as such. They have a set of regulations that are different to that of Crown land that is usually vacant. Your constitutional rights are always intact although Australia has very few rights embedded in the constitution, there is no Bill of Rights for example. You have some implied rights handed down through precedent from the High Court of Australia. Officials who approach you have Crown authority (which is the same as constitutional authority) either from a federal or state delegated authority. So really your sentence simply states what is already in place and so is redundant.
Interesting info 🤔
this is australia who the hell asks for permission to do anything.
Not the police. They do whatever the hell they like.
Bye golly, bye crickey, bye geez Rob that pulled the self entitled out into the open. An informative clip that can be fact checked in seconds. Perfect ... no. But deserving of the responses i have seen ... absolutely not. Rules were displayed in the video. Shoot the rule makers not the messenger.
Some of the information presented isn't entirely accurate, e.g. on the Move On Order part. Certain criteria must be met in order for the police to issue a move on direction/order...
Great advice, I've found that the difficult part is finding the actual legislation so we can read and know it.
@@IainThomson-km3hk Let google be your friend.
Such as?
@@walkaboutwithrob You can find the legislation under police powers and responsibilities act 2000 part 5 it is all available online. To sum up the main reasons
(a) causing anxiety to a person entering, at or leaving the place, reasonably arising in all the circumstances; or
(b) interfering with trade or business at the place by unnecessarily obstructing, hindering or impeding someone entering, at or leaving the place; or
(c) disorderly, indecent, offensive, or threatening to someone entering, at or leaving the place; or
(d) disrupting the peaceable and orderly conduct of any event, entertainment or gathering at the place.
(2)If the regulated place is a public place, other than a public place in a safe night precinct, subsection (1) applies in relation to a person at or near the public place only if the person’s behaviour has or had the effect mentioned in subsection (1)(a), (b), (c) or (d) in the part of the public place at or near where the person then is.
There is a bit more there so it is worth a read i think. The main points I find is that the police cannot just hand out move orders willy nilly like they actually do. An example I have actually experienced was walking home late at night and was stopped by the police who gave me a move on order, beside the fact that I was already doing it there was no legal reason they could have actually given me the order under the legislation.
I liked the video though, only thing i thought would have been worth mentioning that not many people seem to know is that you also are not required to say anything to police. Unless they have a reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime in which case you need to give them your name and address. But other then that you can remain silent the entire encounter.
A law written in a book in a courthouse will not stop the beating and smashed camera on the street
But it will provide evidence of the unlawful assault and aid the police in arresting them.
"The police are highly armed and can become aggressive..."
so much for protectors of the public
i think he was mistaken the police are aggressive and armed and can become right pricks whenever they want with no consequences would be more fitting
QLD police are aggressive as all hell, hit now ask questions later. Problem is this is supported by their bosses.
They're not protectors of the public though. They swear allegiance to the Crown and the current government. No where in the swearing in of Police does it say to serve and protect the public. They only carry out duties inasmuch as to keep the masses in check.
Thanks for the information. I'll be sure to pass this on to my kids. Subscribed and liked.
what's the story with the cop beating up the bloke hanging out the car window?
I don't think that was a cop but a tradie.
@@lordandrewbruceofthemcinne5046 ... It was definitely a Policeman. His name is Senior Constable Benjamin Arndt and had been previously convicted of common assault.
It was a cop. It was on the news last yesh. Here in austrslis@lordandrewbruceofthemcinne5046
I'll film where I want to, next they'll want to ban dash cams
and ask for your footage to solve a mystery
Common sense, yeah right, what is "sensible" to you or me may not be considered sensible to some frustrated Karen, and the Karen's seem to be all too common nowadays!
Buggered if I know what is common or sensible any more!
Lol, QLD cops were scary as a young lad. Was riding my bike along the shoulder of the road next to the Fitzroy River in Rocky, would have been about 8, I suppose. Didn't have my helmet. Cops had a speed trap setup. I road past it, or would have if the cop hadn't got out and called me over. I got off the bike and he slammed me against his car and said if he saw me riding without my helmet again he'd clip my ears. 😂 i was so tanned back then i think i looked like a black fella, despite my blonde hair.
Cool story bro but needs more dragons
@@jesuschrist7169 It's a pretty tame sorta story so I didn't think it needed one, but have a thumbs up anyway, for being you 👍
@@jesuschrist7169 .. I am ex Q'ld Police and I have no problem believing every word of that comment.
@jesuschrist7169 things like that happened heaps back in the old days.
@Liams_Fraser_Island_adventures why are you still called Fraser Island, that's not its name!
Is the QPWS part legislation, or just QPWS policy? If it's just policy then it's not illegal.
Shopping centres are public spaces…. private owned - but public space. No expectation of privacy.
Shopping centres are PRIVATE property. This isn't complicated. They can exclude you, they can direct you to leave, they can have you arrested for trespassing.
The person posting the video has just told you and the law is quite clear.
@@4ebees There are protections int he law (in NSW) for shared use areas. IE private owners give up some rights over their publicly used property in exchange for not being liable for every thing that can occur inside. The most common area this is applied to is in forecourts out the front of buildings that are also pedestrian thoroughfares.
A private owner can have nay policy that they like, but the law of the land still trumps it. The ownership of property doesn't change if it is public or private with respect to the expectation of privacy.
Photography is not a crime.
Why would you do RUclips if it wasn't monetised?
To build an audience and reach the numbers you need to get monetized? RUclips rules says you need (I think) 500 followers and so many hours before they will monetize your channel.
Wow! Some of these are pretty crazy… thanks for sharing this information Rob.
Funny how so many agree with the law when its in their favour but discount it when it doesn't suit by saying you should use common sense. If you dont like the law get it changed, dont have a go at people doing nothing wrong and start making up your own rules...thats what the police do and we all know how much we hate that.
So it's ok for them to get aggressive and we should just now down to them you say. Your what's wrong with th his country stand up for our freedoms otherwise they will just keep taking them away.
@michellecullen8911 Please avoid melodrama. I am not what's wrong with this country. That's a pointless and silly comment to make. The video is saying that you have the right to film in public. If a police officer tries to infringe upon that right your best course of action is to let the courts deal with it. Or, you can get into a physical fight with the police but I'm pretty sure they will win. Nobody wants such a confrontation. I'm sure the police don't either. We must always speak up for our rights, but getting your ribs broken by a cop doesn't help your position. Just be calm, polite and use common sense.
@@walkaboutwithrobthey abuse our rights daily. Thugs in costume. They are a corporate body now. Not for the people. FTP.
You need to be extremely polite to Queensland police is all I’m saying.
Bugger them, they have body cams so hold them to account, it is also not an offence in Queensland to resist an unlawful arrest, just saying ...
I can tell you from experience that failing the attitude test doesent go well@@nigelrhodes4330
And in townsville 2yr ago a senior SGT ordered 4 officers to turn off their body cameras to screw over an innocent person and got away with it.
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Its probably worth noting the privacy act covers much of what you can and can't do as well, also reinforcing the fact that even if you capture imagery of a private property that it is still ok to do so depending on the intended use of that imagery, how it is stored, and whether or not you can identify the people in that imagery by virtue of where they are, what they are doing and what you can see. This is of particular important when using drones, as it is perfectly legal to fly in the airspace above private property (how else to planes get around otherwise), but the focus moves more on to safety rather than privacy, and the intent of the flight the use of any data captured.
But if someone came up to you and 'politely' asked you to not film them would you oblige?
In addition if they thought you had filmed them and 'politely' asked if you could avoid using that footage would you also oblige and refrain from using that clip?
Please note I mean 'politely' and not belligerently/angrily demand.
Nah.. I just tell them to move along and keep filming..
You forgot this, google: CCC Body worn cameras - their role in complaint resolution
Nice clear and simple explanation, maybe you could cover other civic topics
Good info and most of it applies in other states as well. The question of monetisation on RUclips is always an interesting one as we are a non-profit site and don't actually make money. We get paid a miniscule amount by YT that doesn't even come close to covering costs so it could be argued that we don't make money out of our channel. I would be interested to know if that has ever been tested in Australia.
Class 6 and 9 buildings are for public access. Under building and certification laws, they must be given access to the public. The law on recording is that one person must know they are being recorded. I've been through the court and won. You missed one aspect. It is illegal to record people in intimacy in public.
Intimacy?
Don't think so.
You mean, you can't film people in secret
@@devarmont87 Just think about the word "intimacy" in public and you'll understand it. I shouldn't need to give examples.
Intimacy meaning - Close familiarity or friendship. Like holding hands for example
@@sicpuppy9435 who is going to root in public
Great informative video mate. We see so much American stuff some people assume we have the same laws as them. That move along order is a big difference. That would catch Aussies out for sure. Still if people are creating a scene over you filming arent they the ones craeting the disturbance? And the filming in a national park bit. I bet nobody gets permit. I was ignorant of that one my self.
If a shopping mall has cameras recording me, they have opened the door to consensual recording. Also parents/children if your default to everyone with a camera is perv, I'd question your own morals.
Common sense should come into it and a certain level of consideration.if someone is filming and I happen to get in the shot I wouldn't care. If they are zooming in on me or my family for a prolonged period of time I'd probably be somewhat annoyed if I'm just minding my own business. I don't really understand people who get annoyed by someone filming in public spaces especially if they are tourist hotspots for example. Or if someone is filming their kids or friends or say a shopping experience or event. I guess it comes down to a little common sense. I don't reckon i can be interesting enough as I've never had a problem 😂😂
The shopping mall is private property. Your entry implies you consent to their rules - just like you'd expect someone to obey "house rules" in your home.
As for filming kids - there's a difference between kids being in the shot, and *filming the kids.*
@@NPC-fl3gq I agree with the kids thing, but in the UK if you allow public entry without payment, it automatically becomes a public place for filming purposes. But it's still private property and you can be asked/evicted for being a nuisance.
You are only partially correct. In the UK facilities like airports, shopping centres, hospitals, museums etc, are private properties to which the public have an implied right of access, that access being subject to the terms and conditions of the owner/tenant of the property. The owner/tenant has the right revoke that implied right of access at any time. It has nothing to do with payment upon entry or not as the case may be. @@stewartread4235
Privacy laws are detailed and quite specific. CCTV, like on public transport can be viewed live by staff who have been trained for security reasons like witnessing and reporting from a point of safety. Staff are not allowed to rewind, record or replay any footage without legal approval..which means they can't because they won't get it. The CCTV systems record all inputs or commands from the screen or keyboard. Breaking privacy leads to fines of tens of thousands to millions to the operator and the owner of the equipment. Only a police Sgt or higher can operate the rewind and review of recorded footage.
Signs must be visibly posted stating that there a CCTV systems recording. By entering, you are consenting.
As far as regarding your second sentence. Not everyone recording with children in shot are pervs. But all pervs record children. Go to a public place like a park and start recording with children in shot.... See how that pans out for you. Imagine a current affairs crew showing up and asking you why you were recording kids. See how you go arguing they crossed your shot.
I'd be questioning your common sense to be honest.