Even though mass reporting when actual cheating is going on. I think that Blizz will in time get so tired of it that they will remove the mass reporting feature in the game. Due to all of the headache of going through and reversing all of those account actions against players. If it was a short ban then compensating them for time lost. Like I said with all of those negatives even though there are positives of actual cheating getting reported I still think that Blizz will get tired of the whole debacle and remove it entirely from the game. If you want to report cheating then you would have to go to the forums. Using the forums means that they know who you are and if you make a false report then you will suffer the ban or the clan name change.
I’m from this server and one of these clans. Were current Immortals and this just affected us last week. I’m glad they agreed and hope they all play their part. Tons of other smaller clans are not represented here but they’re usually not in contention for Immortal reign.
Pretty sad that their server has gotten this bad. I’d be worried about getting reported too, but a written document won’t cause any changes where this isn’t a problem.
Fair comment =). However, I just want to point out that while the document aims to combat mass reporting, there is also an underlying objective: To build a strong relationship between clans. Clan conflict just makes it worse. At least with this, clans become more open to work together against it rather than simply distrusting each other.
This is a good start, I feel that the burden of proof should always be on the reporter, not the victim. The system should be redesigned in such a way that if Player 1 makes insane accusations againts player 2, The System would require Player 1 to upload evidence of his claims, screen shots, videos, or audio recordings, and not auto ban players without any evidence.
Thank you for taking this up Echo. Been reading the responses to your video up until today and I think some of the skepticism is fair. When we decided to work on this statement, we knew that this would not be the solution to everything. Some players would still act outside of this policy. Some of these players could even be either third parties or hidden within the clans that have signed the statement. However, the point of all this is to prevent the institutionalization of mass reporting as a clan strategy/weapon. None of the leaders of the signatory clans want this. None of them want to play the blame game or make unsupported accusations against each other. The only way to do this is to wipe the slate clean of any prior conflicts, animosities, and suspicions. Each clan then has to cascade it down to its members. The skepticism is fair and the first step is always faced with challenges, but we'd rather take it then just accept things as they are.
Pretty insane. But at the same time, pretty cool. If clans online can use common sense , come together as one, and make good changes, imagine if that happened in reality. So yea, really, really insane.
Hi ECHO. This just happened to my Clan (OnlyFriends) Getting fake mass reporting and our clan leader getting suspend. It's very toxic behaviors and we hope it never happens again. We hope devs can fix this issues ASAP. Thanks for your attention ECHO 🙏
I am so sorry to hear this happened to you guys :( .. I am wondering if you can speak on what happened when the leader was suspended? What happens to the clan when a leader is banned or suspended?
@ thanks for your concern 🙏🏻 When our leader getting suspend we just do everything like normal because there’s a clan officer can take leader role for a while. Thankfully devs reinstated the suspend in 3 days after our leader submit an appeal.
A couple of years ago, I played until level 22 and until then I didn't play until now. When I started playing, I saw an option that I can become level 60. Does anyone know the reason? Did I skip the 38 level?
That is likely because there are some catch-up mechanics in place, new and returning players get a boost to help them catch up to the server. You will still be able to play the story quests and etc.
No idea why this goes on. I have been Immortal 3 times and just turned down a 4th time this past Monday and moved to a Shadow clan. Being an Immortal is kinda Meh...
Imagine if you spend tons of hours and your hard-earned money to build your character just to have a salty group report you and you lose everything. But you're right it's just a game. It's just your money. It's just your time. It's just your enjoyment. No big deal.. huh?
I’m sorry. The algorithm needs to human flag when mass reporting of any account, clan etc. Must have human interaction and both parties should be suspended, not banned until a reasonable resolution can be attained. If it is ‘revenge’ reporting, those doing mass reporting should be permanently banned. No matter what, it must have at least one human from blizzard getting to the bottom of this mess.
All games have politics; it can't be avoided. It's in our nature to get political in a competitive world because men love order. Politics is the semblance of order; a game is barren without it. Those clans who rule a game may look like tyrants but it can't be denied that them being on the top of the food chain gives people goals to achieve to be with those guys otherwise what's the point? Game politics, as bad as it may sound, is one of the reasons why people stay in a game, because a gamer's life is more fun when there is conflict. Imagine a game where everyone gets along very well; it would be boring AF.
The amount of money and time that whales spend on this game, I'm not at all surprised that it's gotten very dirty! Since the reporting is anonymous, all this nice talk is meaningless in the end because anybody can break it and not be held accountable.
Gang stalking cowards!! :)...seen too many who "just talked too much" have to reroll accounts or at very least 7-10 suspension and required to change name when other's have same character combos and after playing since launch (last 6 months)
ECHO be like "Unite against false mass reporting // please don't legitimately mass report my whale friends I shill for regarding account sharing & selling, can't expose them man" absolute clown.
Right, as uneducated as being unable to locate a player's resonance a year into the game. Spoiler- these same account share/sell communities are the main stay coordinators of this targeted mass false report abuse. Correction. Not 'friends', just a tool used to spread agendas and misinformation.
@@ECHOGamingDiablo would be nice to see you do a video about all the account buying and sharing that has been going on AND blizzards lack of action on it. Its seems blizzard is supporting this. They gave out 3 day TEMPORARY bans for susan users. They constantly ignore all reports about accounts getting handed off to others, they even have partners in the program playing on accounts that arent theirs, yet do nothing about it. Blizzard put out a warning statement to what, just let us know its not ok? Drivers are everywhere. Some accounts are even on their 4th owner. Where is the integrity of the game? Where are the people responsible? Other game developers go after their cheaters LEGALLY and take them to court even just to protect the integrity of their game and the experience of their player base, yet blizzard cant even go after cheaters within their own means. Their reporting system is beyond terrible. And situations like you've posted only make this statement more true.
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Even though mass reporting when actual cheating is going on. I think that Blizz will in time get so tired of it that they will remove the mass reporting feature in the game. Due to all of the headache of going through and reversing all of those account actions against players. If it was a short ban then compensating them for time lost. Like I said with all of those negatives even though there are positives of actual cheating getting reported I still think that Blizz will get tired of the whole debacle and remove it entirely from the game. If you want to report cheating then you would have to go to the forums. Using the forums means that they know who you are and if you make a false report then you will suffer the ban or the clan name change.
I’m from this server and one of these clans. Were current Immortals and this just affected us last week. I’m glad they agreed and hope they all play their part.
Tons of other smaller clans are not represented here but they’re usually not in contention for Immortal reign.
This is..... sigh.
Ban the players that mass reports anyone because of wrong reasons.
Pretty sad that their server has gotten this bad. I’d be worried about getting reported too, but a written document won’t cause any changes where this isn’t a problem.
Fair comment =). However, I just want to point out that while the document aims to combat mass reporting, there is also an underlying objective: To build a strong relationship between clans. Clan conflict just makes it worse. At least with this, clans become more open to work together against it rather than simply distrusting each other.
This is a good start, I feel that the burden of proof should always be on the reporter, not the victim. The system should be redesigned in such a way that if Player 1 makes insane accusations againts player 2, The System would require Player 1 to upload evidence of his claims, screen shots, videos, or audio recordings, and not auto ban players without any evidence.
thanks echo for making another video bro i know i could count on u when it comes to this topics.
Appreciate you Mr Master!
Thank you for taking this up Echo. Been reading the responses to your video up until today and I think some of the skepticism is fair. When we decided to work on this statement, we knew that this would not be the solution to everything. Some players would still act outside of this policy. Some of these players could even be either third parties or hidden within the clans that have signed the statement. However, the point of all this is to prevent the institutionalization of mass reporting as a clan strategy/weapon. None of the leaders of the signatory clans want this. None of them want to play the blame game or make unsupported accusations against each other. The only way to do this is to wipe the slate clean of any prior conflicts, animosities, and suspicions. Each clan then has to cascade it down to its members.
The skepticism is fair and the first step is always faced with challenges, but we'd rather take it then just accept things as they are.
Pretty insane. But at the same time, pretty cool. If clans online can use common sense , come together as one, and make good changes, imagine if that happened in reality. So yea, really, really insane.
Hi ECHO. This just happened to my Clan (OnlyFriends) Getting fake mass reporting and our clan leader getting suspend. It's very toxic behaviors and we hope it never happens again. We hope devs can fix this issues ASAP. Thanks for your attention ECHO 🙏
I am so sorry to hear this happened to you guys :( .. I am wondering if you can speak on what happened when the leader was suspended? What happens to the clan when a leader is banned or suspended?
@ thanks for your concern 🙏🏻 When our leader getting suspend we just do everything like normal because there’s a clan officer can take leader role for a while. Thankfully devs reinstated the suspend in 3 days after our leader submit an appeal.
A couple of years ago, I played until level 22 and until then I didn't play until now. When I started playing, I saw an option that I can become level 60. Does anyone know the reason? Did I skip the 38 level?
That is likely because there are some catch-up mechanics in place, new and returning players get a boost to help them catch up to the server. You will still be able to play the story quests and etc.
No idea why this goes on. I have been Immortal 3 times and just turned down a 4th time this past Monday and moved to a Shadow clan. Being an Immortal is kinda Meh...
It is just a game for goodness sakes. I believe the whales rotate the Immortal Reign.
Imagine if you spend tons of hours and your hard-earned money to build your character just to have a salty group report you and you lose everything.
But you're right it's just a game. It's just your money. It's just your time. It's just your enjoyment.
No big deal.. huh?
I’m sorry. The algorithm needs to human flag when mass reporting of any account, clan etc. Must have human interaction and both parties should be suspended, not banned until a reasonable resolution can be attained.
If it is ‘revenge’ reporting, those doing mass reporting should be permanently banned.
No matter what, it must have at least one human from blizzard getting to the bottom of this mess.
To bad this is just empty promises. Whoever does this stuff isn’t going to stop.
I'm from enigma and I don't care at all who's immortal. just enjoying the game hehe
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In game politics is ok. But not when taking it outside the game
All games have politics; it can't be avoided. It's in our nature to get political in a competitive world because men love order. Politics is the semblance of order; a game is barren without it. Those clans who rule a game may look like tyrants but it can't be denied that them being on the top of the food chain gives people goals to achieve to be with those guys otherwise what's the point? Game politics, as bad as it may sound, is one of the reasons why people stay in a game, because a gamer's life is more fun when there is conflict. Imagine a game where everyone gets along very well; it would be boring AF.
The amount of money and time that whales spend on this game, I'm not at all surprised that it's gotten very dirty!
Since the reporting is anonymous, all this nice talk is meaningless in the end because anybody can break it and not be held accountable.
Gang stalking
cowards!! :)...seen too many who "just talked too much" have to reroll accounts or at very least 7-10 suspension and required to change name when other's have same character combos and after playing since launch (last 6 months)
W video.
Nerds!
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+1, thx Sir @ECHOgamingDiablo
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ECHO be like "Unite against false mass reporting // please don't legitimately mass report my whale friends I shill for regarding account sharing & selling, can't expose them man" absolute clown.
You are very uneducated in all this. Also. Whale friends. I’m not in that group man. Get your facts straight.
Right, as uneducated as being unable to locate a player's resonance a year into the game.
Spoiler- these same account share/sell communities are the main stay coordinators of this targeted mass false report abuse.
Correction. Not 'friends', just a tool used to spread agendas and misinformation.
@@ECHOGamingDiablo would be nice to see you do a video about all the account buying and sharing that has been going on AND blizzards lack of action on it. Its seems blizzard is supporting this. They gave out 3 day TEMPORARY bans for susan users. They constantly ignore all reports about accounts getting handed off to others, they even have partners in the program playing on accounts that arent theirs, yet do nothing about it. Blizzard put out a warning statement to what, just let us know its not ok? Drivers are everywhere. Some accounts are even on their 4th owner. Where is the integrity of the game? Where are the people responsible?
Other game developers go after their cheaters LEGALLY and take them to court even just to protect the integrity of their game and the experience of their player base, yet blizzard cant even go after cheaters within their own means.
Their reporting system is beyond terrible. And situations like you've posted only make this statement more true.
The worst and most canceorus game in the entire history of Blizzard. Utter aids.