2020 Ibis Ripmo VS 2020 Pivot Switchblade Head-to-head comparison
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What other bikes should be in the "best trail bike ever" category... Yeti SB130/130LR, Revel Rascal, Santa Cruz Hightower, Evil Offering, Specialized Stumpjumper, Rocky Mountain Instinct.... LET ME KNOW BELOW
v2 Ripmo
Trek Fuel EX
I'm in the process of building a yeti sb130LR with 203mm rotors front and rear with the Fox X2 instead of the dpx2. Carbon wheels and axs upgrade. Calling it the SB130 Endurolite.
Niner Jet RDO 3 or 4 star build
The optic
Salt Cycles saved my ass when I was in town for a ride. Service was impeccable, great crew. Also, great video.
So good to hear. Thank you!
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My pleasure, Enjoy! Thank you.
Such a great bikes and the compare it’s a great way to see more details, good work!
Thanks!
Thank you for the back to back reviews. I have narrowed down my new bike purchase to these two bikes. Your insight and video’s have help tremendously. New Switchblade for me to replace my Scott Scale hard tail. Keep up the good work!
Excellent! I'm excited for you. Maybe give Chris a call at Salt Cycles in Sandy Utah. I know they have both colors in stock including Greenwich is mostly sold out everywhere.
Christopher Lee good choice
Your videos are awesome man. I look forward to every video. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it!
I just bought a v2 ripmo largely based on your review and the folks at Bikers Edge … so stoked !! that’s two bikes I have bought based on your reviews, the last being a HD4 … Thank you for the reviews !
That’s awesome. Glad the videos were helpful and thanks for the support!
Another great review Jason!
Thanks and keep shredding 👍👍👍
Thanks dude!
I'm fortunate to have 2 Ibis bikes so I would go for the Pivot, the main thing for me is the DW Link suspension, I find it hard to consider anything else after riding this platform.
Someone count how many times he said Ripley instead of Ripmo! :D Good video man:)
Haha Ripley is always on the brain😆🤣 it's my favorite bike right now for sure!
Awesome info. Thanks as always!
You bet, thanks!
Awesome comparison of two great bikes Jason.
Thanks man!
Ibis ftw!! Ibis is killing it lately with the ripmo and ripley. I can't wait to demo one!
Yeah, it's crazy. How good these bikes are. And with the new traction tune is just mind-blowing for smaller lighter-weight Riders like myself.
How dare you make me want to buy another bike! Haha Great video! Dude... I put a new shock on my Ripmo V1. Game changing.. I never got a long with the DPX2 on this bike. Been fine on other bikes. The X2 is such a pain to setup and feels like I need to tinker with it on every trail. This new DVO shock is pretty good. It's much smoother and provides a better relationship between you and the tires.
too bad I can only provide one like for your videos! but there, you have it!
Hey, thanks for weighing in. Yeah, I still have not had much opportunity to ride bikes with dvo suspension. I think I wrote a giant trance with dvo, but that's about it. Glad. It's working for you!
I always love your reviews, you’re the reason why I bought the switchblade 3years ago. Switchblade all the way
Thanks for the kind words. Pivot didn't make this bike to Enduro or to slack. I think it's just about the perfect trail bike. So if you love the current switchblade when it comes time to upgrade you'll love the new one!
MTB yumyum, for now I’m good with the 2017 model, I’ll just keep on liking your videos.
@@1wakurat same with my 2017 especially with the -2 degree angle set I put on it.
Keep up the great work!
I have listened to more and more of your reviews on different bikes. I come to respect your opinions. Choosing a mountain bike as the best is subjective. Both Pivot and Ibis bikes use the DW link so the both climb insane. I personally prefer pivot switchblade looks and performance. Narrowed it two brands. Even then so many brands Yeti, Santa Cruz, Revel, Specialized, etc..thanks Jason.
Thanks!
I'm revisiting this review/comparison since yesterday I demo'd this identical model Switchblade when I took my V1 Ripmo in to have my rear wheel respoked!
I took it on my local trails here in the SF Bay Area CA. Right away I felt like I was riding a Ripley since it pedaled so easy - I was very surprised! It had Lyrik/Deluxe RS suspension and it had DT swiss alloy wheelset. I agree, it pedaled/climbed a bit better than my Ripmo. In terms of descending, I felt the stability was better on my Ripmo.
Lately, I been thinking of something that is a good compromise between the Ripley/Ripmo. And it seems I found it in the SWB!..LOL. However, I don't think the pedaling/climbing difference is big enough to justify switching teams! And really like how the Ripmo descends and overall liveliness.
I also realized, these days weight is irrelevant! For example, although my Ripmo has the S35 carbon wheelset it weighs more than the SWB. But that extra weight is actually a bonus since it contributes to being able to balance the bike better in techy sections ( rock gardens, cornering, etc.) and it is more planted which does help overall, seems to get better traction.
I've heard that Rockshox current design is among the best these days which I always thought the opposite. On my Ripmo I have a Factory 36 and the X2 and thought this was among the best suspension out there although it adds weight to the bike and the adjusting is a bit more technical than the performance level ( I do question if all those adjustments are necessary?). The RS setup on the SWB seemed minimalist and streamlined compared to Fox factory and it seemed great to me.
Anyway, looking forward to your response on this! Thanks.
Based on your weight, a smaller volume spacer may give you a more desired suspension feel on the Switchblade. This is based on a comment from a Pivot employee on MTBR:
"This is almost surely due to the SUPER aggressive shock tune we're using. There's a 0.6cu in spacer in the air can that gives the bike that very progressive ramp up at the end. We specced it this way so that you can ride it very hard and not have any harsh bottom outs, but if you're finding that your sag is spot-on and you're not getting full travel, just swap to a smaller volume spacer.
I ride pretty light/smooth (read: wimpy), so I swapped to a 0.4, and it made big difference. I imagine some of our non-dad-bod riders might benefit from a 0.2, and some of the lightest guys and gals out there may prefer no spacer at all."
Interesting. Sounds like I should give it another go. Thank you!
Great review. Nice and polite topics.
Thank you!
Great head to head review. Thx!
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Sending it Jason. Nice review! Jeez chunky trail brah.
Yeah, dude, super fun Trails down in southern Utah. Both these bikes handle those Trails. No problem.
Love your reviews keep them going. Now lets get a taller/bigger rider along with you to add in some other perspectives.
Honestly, that is exactly what I need. If I had someone who has more like 185 lb writing a size large or extra-large do it at a lot of depth to my review and give more people out there a greater perspective of how the bikes feel for different Riders.
@@mtbyumyum i would if i lived out there! I'm 6'4, 195 without gear... i find my feel on bikes often is different! Mainly bc i have a very long reach with a 6'9 wingspan... so "long bikes" feel like regular ones lol
I've got the Switchblade demo tomorrow from Over the Edge in Hurricane. I'm pretty stoked to ride that bike!
Nice, enjoy!
ZigZach MTB how did your demo on the Switchblade go? Can you share any thoughts?
How about the Switchblade?
Ibis Ripmo in bug zapper blue for me. Nice head to head review
The blue is really cool in person. Thanks!
Excellent comparison! Would love to see how the Revel Rascal stacks up to these. Need a new steed and as you say so many good bikes.
Honestly, I think the rebel Rascal fits right in between the new switchblade and ripmo. It has that real stable supportive feeling but it's still pretty Nimble and Lively. It's a very cool bike.
That custom DPX2 on the Switchblade is legit! However lighter riders could benefit from a smaller volume spacer than .6
I unfortunately didn't get the time or opportunity to swap out volume spacers on either bike. The Ibis felt good out of the box. And yeah, I could see how changing the shock tune a little bit or a smaller spacer might do wonders for a lighter Rider.
that was some good riding, I'm jealous
So much fun dude! These bikes are incredible!
Very good video. I would prefer to see more of the bikes while you talk. Thanks.
Yeah, I need to do a better job of getting footage of the bikes. Honestly, I just need a full crew of filmers, haha.
Love the channel, super keen to see you ride and review a Canyon Strive👍
Thank you!
I sure would like to see a comparison between these 2 bikes and the Fezzari La Sal Peak.Geo and suspension are very close.
I love your reviews, always super informative and I like how you delve into how bikes feel as much as how they perform.
I've got a chance to pick up a 1 year old used Pivot Switchblade Pro XT/XTR build with carbon wheels and i9 hydra hubs for the same price as a new Ibis Ripmo V2 SLX with ibis wheels. I was set on a Ripmo but the bikes seem very similar and it's hard to argue against the better kit on the Pivot. Which would you buy if you were in my shoes?
I agree, both are very good. Glad you found one at a good deal. Congrats!
Would you expect if you put a couple volume spacers in the Switchblade it would have more of the poppy trail feel of the Ripmo?
hey man I really like your reviews, I think they are the most accurate and exhaustive out there. I wonder if you could review the Knolly Fugitive Lt. It's not so popular and might be difficult for you to get your hands on one of them but I would really love it and I'm sure many others would as well. It is very similar to the sb130, switchblade or Ibis ripmo. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thank you!!
Haha love the cover photo!!
I know right? I thought it turned out awesome!
I was hoping to see several comparisons of you doing a drop or steep up/down hill on each from the same point of perspective for a visual comparison.
Yes. We did all those thing but I don't have a film crew to document the day of riding like Pinkbike, Vital, Bikemag and the others... hope you understand🤙
Nice comparison! Very interesting that two bikes, both DW link have distinct personalities. I like that you make the distinctions between smaller and larger riders. As a 6 footer, I would likely lean to the Pivot for the better climbing and stiffer frame. I basically made a similar call by taking a Tallboy over a Ripley, in my case it was because I still want to hit stuff pretty hard, but I also like the durability and free small part replacement offered by SC, since I tend to keep bikes for 3,000+ miles. Keep up the great work!
PS my brother owns 3 Ibis bikes and I don't want to be a copy cat and have the same bikes as him...
Bill, I always love your thoughtful comments. Thanks! You bring up a good point. I think a lot of people who watch my channel empathize with. I wish I had another Rider who could come demo these bikes with me and way in. Maybe someone who's 185 lb and writing a size large or extra-large would be beneficial. But for now, it's just me. Thanks, dude!
@@mtbyumyum .... and here i am thinking 5'8" isnt small! Im 5'3" with disproportionately short legs and solid build. I ride a medium frame bike but can only use about 50mm of dropper post. There are plenty of tall bike reviewers about but ive yet to find any truely short male (heavier) reviewers.
@@mtbyumyum mind if i ask where youre located? Looks like arizona. I'm moving down to sedona for school and happen to fit that profile almost to the pound
Great review 👍 Jason 👌🌞 can you demo - yeti SB 165 v 150 please !!!! Woul be great head to head !! 👍
That would be rad but I wouldn't be able to do it on my home Trails as they're just not narly or steep enough for those bikes.
I have a Rip AF,,, its a great bike
Couple of important points..
You can run 27.5 on the Switchblade and have two different bikes with another wheelset if you so choose.
You can run a coil shock on the Ripmo if that's your jam.
Btw Jason, I'd love to get your thoughts on the Orbea Occam if you can get your hands on one.
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out Manny! I don't get the chance to ride too many orbea bikes. Wish I had better access to them.
Shops are saying the new Ripmo carbon is out of stock till June if you place your order today! Ibis is going to grow as a company from this bike no doubt!
Dude, that's such a bummer to hear this. I wish they had more bikes available. I get tons of comments and emails same people want the new ripmo. That's a bummer.
Very nice descriptions! I feel you on the ("Ripmo" forgiving crafty flowy-ness vs. "Switchblade" Sharper directional accuracy) {my rendering of your impressions} Great Job Jason & Steady Camera Guy! 🙌🏼⚖️🚲💨😎
Yeah, you actually said it a lot better than I did. I like your description. . Thank you!
MTB yumyum Thank you Sir! Long time fan here 👋🏼
Thanks
Wishing you would ride and review the La Sal Peak from Fezzari. Interested to see how it stacks up, since you have ridden them all.
Apparently it stacked up pretty poorly as you’ve probably seen b
Did the SWITCHBLADE have handlebars that were larger diameter/thicker too stiff and that is why it felt harsher? How about wheels and tires, and tire pressure?
Just rode the ripmo v2 and switchblade back to back and no question that the Pivot is the preferred bike. The Ibis just didn’t feel controlled or stable. I’d give the ibis 6.5/10 and Pivot 9.5/10.
Chris Piercecchi, how tall are you and weight? What size frame where you riding?
At 6' and 220 I agree completely and got a switchblade. Looks better and Pivot cycles is a great company!
Great video! What trail is this?
Jason, another great review. On a side note, have you figured out the secret crabby patty formula for tires on your ripley?
thanks! Yeah, a good compramize between high rolling xc ish and full on traction DH style for me has been the 2.4 Rekon up front and 2.35 Ardent Race on the back. Rolls fast, has good traction and okay protection. I've been happy with it for general trail use. Remember though, I have 2 bikes and my other bike for the super gnarly terrain with slower rolling higher traction and protection tires.... good luck!
V1 Ripmo will be good bargains now eh ?
Great videos mates.
Yeah I think so... the new V2 doesn't make the original obsolete at all imho
I demoed the V1 Ripmo and did not like it going downhill. I felt like I was going to do a header on all the jumps when I landed, It was way too squirly and had to slow down a lot . Climbed like a goat though..I bought a Hightower and love it.
Interesting. I've ridden the v1 Ripmo and new HT back-to-back a few times and never felt that way although the HT does descend really well and feels bottomless
Sounds like a bad setup
Ibis rules!!
Nothing wrong with that... 😎
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10 times out of 10 I’ll go with the switchblade. I’m not a downhill guy and pivots have always felt how I think a bike should feel.
Yeah, dude. It's such a solid bike. Can't believe it climbs as well as it does for how heavy it is and how Stout it feels. Very cool trail bike!
Great video once again! Thank you!
How does it he Revel Rascal compare to these as far as climbing?
Very good question. I would love to ride the Revel Rascal and the ripmo back-to-back. Honestly, It kind of feels like the perfect bike in between these two.
MTB yumyum thank you! You have the best reviews.
Thanks dude!
Nice review. I love my Ripmo v1 and run it around some chunky stuff in San Diego/SoCal. No looking back for me (riding an XL frame and VERY happy with the climbing capability and its ability to handle very tough terrain). Not sure I agree that you are "just an average rider" however........... :) keep up the good work.
Haha thanks man! Enjoy that ripV1... excellent bike!
Good review Jason. You kept saying Ripley so I got confused if you were actually talking about the Ripmo. The Ripmo vs the Yeti sb150 is a really close set up (150 v 147 rear 170 v 160 front) I have the sb150 now but was considering swapping to the Ripmo, just need to demo the v2. I love the sb150, just hung up on the extra maintenance
Yes, that's correct. I meant to say the ripmo. , my bad. The sb150 feels like a significantly bigger bike than the ripmo.
@@mtbyumyum Does the Ripmo feel less stable at speed in your opinion?
Do you think you'll get the opportunity to check out these Salsa Horsethief anytime soon? The Ibis and the Pivot are contenders along with the new Horsethief for me.
Honestly, I'm not even sure who if anyone carries Salsa in my area... I've never ridden a Salsa before.
Love the channel and what Jason is doing. But not sure this is the best comparison Ripmo V2 v Switchblade V2. The Switchblade they tested has live valve which is a different damper front and rear. It’s not the special DPX2 that Pivot worked on with Fox for the new Switchblade. Also live valve fork doesn’t have the GRIP2 damper. It’s an electronic version of the FIT damper. The live valve switchblade may also climb better than the non-live valve one. But who knows. Hardly anyone is going to buy the live valve switchblade because they cost like 10K+. Would have been better to test the non-live valve Switchblade versus the Ripmo. That would be a more direct comparison between bikes that people might actually buy - both with DPX2 shocks and GRIP2 forks. “The Live Valve system doesn’t work with the new Grip2 cartridge or with a DPX2 or Float X2 shock. The suspension is based on the previous Fit4 cartridge on the fork and DPS technology on the shock.” enduro-mtb.com/en/fox-live-valve-review/
Thank you for weighing in, I'm sure most people who read this will find it useful. I was not aware of the different dampers. It definitely feels like a more stiff sturdy ride then the ripmo. And after what you said, I'm guessing some of it is attributed to the live valve system. Again, Thank you!
Hi, I have a Santa Cruz Hightower LT, can you tell me your opinion about my bike and the ripmo?
Thanks
Hi
Which bike do you prefer (ans why) between a niner jet 9 rdo / ibis ripmo / yeti SB130
I use to ride for 4-6 hours (50-60 miles and up to 1mile élévation)
Ps : Sorry for my bad english
Like the review, but... The new Ripmo v2 is an enduro bike while the Pivot Swtchblade is real a 'trail/all mountain' bike with 'enduro like' capabilities... I'd rather see the ripmo matched up against the firebird 29... Travel aside, the Geo and design characteristics aren't quite a direct comparison. Like to hear your thoughts on that...
Interesting. The Firebird 29, Yeti SB150 and Megatower all feel like bigger bikes than the new Ripmo... I guess I'd need to ride them all back to back and see....
I would like to see how the new primer 29 would compare.
Great reviews as always. Would be great if you could get a big guy to test the same bikes as well.
I’m 6’5” 235 rtr, I want a trail bike that climbs and descends. I’m not into big drops but do enjoy some slow speed chunk and high speed flow. I was thinking Ripley with a 140 or Ripmo or Switchblade.
Thoughts?
Yeah, you bring up a good point. You're a very different Rider than me and might find a different experience on any given bike than I would. With that said, my buddy who is 6'5" 220 is currently building up a Ripley with a pike 140 on the front....
MTB yumyum I’d like to hear your buddy’s thoughts on the Ripley when he gets a few miles on it. Very hard to find any bike reviews carried out by tall heavy guys. There could be a real opportunity to add a large guys review to your channel.
The stiffness of the switchblade makes it very appealing along with the climbing ability. If you consider power to weight ratio a great climbing bike for a big guy is a real asset.
Will you say is alot more planted than the 2017 mojo hd3. Reason I ask is bc I love the way it rode but I didn't like how the mojo is not forgiving since is such short wheel base
I would love to demo a ripmo, but there just isn't any dealers around me. I also make myself feel pressured to buy from my l.b.s and they don't sell ibis. Shop has helped me out so much I feel committed to do business with them, you know what I mean? I think the choices there aren't to bad though, yeti, specialized, pivot, norco, and transition.
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from. Especially if the local bike shop has been super awesome to you. I've had to make decisions in the past to buy the bike. I really want even though my bike shop didn't have it nearby. And in the end I was happy to try something new, but I usually end up going back to the bike shop that I prefer in the end.
The ripmo has a longer wheel base. That’s why it’s more stable.
Great insights thank you! How would you compare these two to the Evil Offering??
I am wondering the same
hey j, did that ripmo v2 have XTR brakes? if so, did you have any front rotor rub or was it silent during your testing so far? seems like my ripmo with XTR rubs a tiny bit, tried adjusting it but seems like there so very little space between pads/rotor.
Yes, XTR 4-piston brakes. They seem just fine and normal to me. I've been riding XTR brakes for the past year on my other bikes.
The title made me sad cause it’s like this really good bike or this one I need help. and me over here tryin to get my first mtb
For all of you asking which bike should buy, get off You Tube and go demo some bikes. It’s the only way to tell how a bike will work for you both from a cockpit feel and ride performance. Mr Yum Yum does a nice job telling us how the latest and greatest work for him and I appreciate his channel. Even if you have to rent a bike to demo it’s well worth it considering how much you will spend on a full purchase and the maintenance.
I did this in 2015 and it cost me several hundred dollars. I ended up on a used Ibis Mojo HDR 27.5 demo bike after trying several others.
In 2018 I demo’d a Ripmo v1 on a 20 mile ride in Tahoe City. By mile 5 I was coming up with ways to pitch the purchase to my wife. Bought a Ripmo and sold the Mojo. The Ripmo is the most capable, comfortable and fun bike I have ever ridden. It may not be the bike for you and that is fine. Or you might love it. At least you will know if you demo it and some others.
Yes, I completely agree. There is no substitution for getting out and riding multiple bikes that you're interested in. I just try to help those who need a second opinion or have no access to the bike in the first place.
@@mtbyumyum You definitely help! I have watched many of your reviews and videos. Really appreciate the service you provide.
You are starting to see the 2020 and 2021 switchblade everywhere...for an all mountain bike you can't beat the SB...its the ultimate machine.
yep, it's good!
I choose Ibis out of general principle. Already got my Ripmo v2 frame on order. I'll be transferring all my parts to it and sell my v1 frame
What general principle? I know they are strong trail Advocates and generally an awesome company anything specific?
@@mtbyumyum they're bikes are just too good and too pretty. It's just perfect for my everything use: climb all day, descend all day. And im a CA local, got to support my local brands.
Though I wouldn't mind having that Pivot if it was in the budget. Incredibly stable bike, and pretty straight lines
Yeah, Pivots are about the best looking lines for a mtb... very traditional looking
Will you be comparing the 10-52 soon? I have been thinking of it for my 2019 RM Instinct BC, not sure if i want the AXS or XX-1, i probably drop close to a pound compared to my stock GX--Seems BKXC is happy with his IBIS
easy, go with Shimano xt or xtr... I switched from XX1 to XX1 axs then over the XTR... it's no comparison... do it!!
He and his buddy loved the Pivot trail 429. What changed?
Love to video, do you prefer the ibis ripmo or pivot mach 5.5 thanks.
Both are good but do things a little different... I'd start by picking a wheels size... good luck!
The recommended sizing is different between the bikes, medium for Pivot says 5'8" to 5'11" whereas for the Ibis is 5'4-5'9" for the medium. It seems like this would factor in the maneuverability and ride feel. You are at the very bottom of the medium on Pivot and could even ride a small. On the Ibis you are getting towards the top of the scale, that's probably going to make the bike feel more playful? Just speculating, as I don't really understand how these companies figure out these sizes. I noticed the new Ibis has almost identical numbers for (stack, reach and top tube) to the Yeti SB130, but that bike has a size range that is closer to 5'5 to 5'11 (165-180 cm).
Cool observation, I wasn't aware of the differences between the two manufactures. Yeah, that makes sense that it could make that ripmo still a little bit more easy to maneuver.
Would love to see the Mach 5.5 vs switchblade!🤟
interesting... okay!
Second this. I have the Mach 5.5 and it seems like the same bike with a bit more slack HTA and steeper STA, just what I would want.
I am old fat and slow so I think the better climber of the 2 would be my best bet ......lol.....thanks for all of the great info!
Yeah, and honestly, I think if I was a heavier Rider, I would have got along a little bit better with a switchblade. Anyway. I think he would be right at home on that thing!
With these back to back tests, are you and your co-rider making any suspension setup adjustments? I think a lot of the "feel" can be changed with even some minor tweaking of rebound/compression and I don't think I've ever heard you mention that you've made any changes to them at all, or maybe you are making adjustments and just not talking about it?
Always tinkering with air, compression and rebound till it feels right for the trail... then adjust as need when terrain changes. Tyler and I happen to be the exact same weight.
Please compare these bikes to Yeti SB130 TLR, all three are in my short list
Yeah... I still need to get a ride on the LR... hope to make that happen by April
These are 2 of my biggest contenders; thanks for the comparison. I've been watching a ton of your videos. I am looking for a trail bike to handle some rocky, rooty NE territory, but still be agile, and a good climber.
Standover height is very important to me, and the biggest reason I want to sell my 2015 Niner RIP 9 size medium with a 750mm standover height. I find that this really limits my ability to comfortably take on technical sections, and to avoid crashing when I need to get off the bike quickly.
I am about 5ft 9in and 215 lbs. Being a shorter rider, what bike would you suggest? I am most likely between the Ripmo, Ripley, Trail 429, Switchblade, Tallboy or Hightower, or Revel Rascal, and I also found the Propain interesting. Finally, I'm considering an e-bike; probably the Pivot Shuttle. My maintenance skills are just ok. Thanks!
@MTB yumyum the sb150 and v2 ripmo have very similar geometry and travel numbers. Do they feel very different?
Yes, they feel pretty different. The sb150 is more stable and composed at higher speeds. It just wants to smash and eat everything in his way. The ripmo still feels agile and fun on slower trails. . The ripmo would make the better trail bike in my opinion.
Ibis is always the more fun bike. People are over biked on most they're Enduro type bikes.
Jason,
I noticed that you talk about the Switchblade getting "hung up" here, but not in the Switchblade review, or the Switchblade vs Rascal comparison, where I believe you rode aluminum rather than carbon rims. How do you feel that aluminum vs carbon rims affect the ride of the Switchblade, and do you think carbon is worth it?
I am starting to think Jason has a secret love affair with XTR. I was thinking about trying AXS but now leaning toward XTR due to better shifting under power.
Dude, I just switched my Ripley to 12-speed XTR. From xx1 axs that I enjoyed all season last year. After riding them back-to-back multiple times now, I can honestly say the Shimano shifts better everywhere.
MTB yumyum sounds like you got some material for a video if you wanted. Good to know. I go back and forth about what one to buy. I have been disappointed with the current eagle shifting compared to the older 1x11. Not sure if it is just tuning or actually worse but in upgrade fashion I am just going to throw money at it lol
Yeah. I just rode my Ripley yesterday and again this morning.... no regrets here swapping from xx1 axs to xtr. Shifts are for sure smoother
you always tell me what I don’t want to hear 🤨. I’m a pivot fan 😌 and maybe it’s because of the 57 Spacing on rear wheel .Keep them coming good review ..
Dude! The Switchblade is awesome... just for me, I'd go w the Ripmo. But I would be stoked to have the Sb as my only bike👍🤙
I am a pivot fan too and the ripmo is my first ibis.... I can’t see myself going back to pivot. The ibis rides better both up down and in the rough than the older switchblade. With the 157 boost it is too big of a pain to try pivot frames these days and I don’t think I will be going back. Then there is price. The the pivot is about $800 more for equivalent builds. For $800 you can upgrade to ibis carbon wheels.
Yeah, James, I share your same sentiment. I love the pivot that I had but since switching to Ibis. I'm having a hard time looking at other bikes. They just fit me so well, and I love the characteristics of how it rides.
What are your thought on the ripmo v2 compared to the rascal for one bike versatility trails and lift service ?
Honestly, I'd be super stoked at the Rascal as my only bike. I don't know that I'd take it over the ripmo, I'd actually like to ride them both back to back. That said I would place it squarely between the switchblade and the ripmo after riding these back-to-back.
Great time to be a mountain biker! Thanks for the reply 🤙🏻
Would it be fair to say that since the Ripmo V1 and V2 are so similar that if you were to compare the Ripmo V1 to the Switchblade, you would end up with similar results as your comparison here?
According to the geometry numbers the V2 Ripmo is longer than V1, I assume you didn't notice any extra length in wheelbases amongst any of the bikes?
Still no pedal strikes?
As always, thanks for the in depth reviews.
Yeah, the original ripmo had more similar geometry to this new switchblade, but still, they're different bikes. I actually ended up writing the original remote on the same day that I filmed at these two bikes. I would say both ripmo are more playful and Poppy than the switchblade regardless of the geometry changes.
And yeah, pedal strikes was a non-issue and no concern on the new ripmo. I think I got one or two on the entire day between all three bikes.
Curious, would you ride this trail with your Ripley? I like similar trails, on the fence with the ripley vs ripmo. Your thoughts.
Ridden these trail many times on the ripley... does fine here... Ripmo will allow you to go faster if you're willing
@@mtbyumyum thanks!
Hi Jason. We are similar build, and I own Ripmo v2. What stem length did you like? I run stock 50mm/thinking of going down to 40mm -Thanks
I rode the 40mm stem on the Ripmo and currently on my personal Ripley
@@mtbyumyum Thank you for you feedback.
Still on the fence. Ripley or Ripmo. Tons of snow here in north central Vermont so going to be a while to demo. I know I’ll like either but they are so different. What do you think of a set of 2.6 Rekon’ s on either of the Ibis bikes?
I'm currently running a 2.4 Rekon on the front of my Ripley and love it. Between the two I could go either direction. Honestly just depends on how fast you want to ride and what type of terrain you ride most of the time. Good luck!
I run a Forcaster 2.6 in the front and 2.4 rekon in the rear on my Ripmo and that works pretty well. The forkaster handles a little greasy mud much better than a rekon. Sadly I think the 2.6 rekon is too wide for the rear. It fits but if you get into any mud at all or some big g-outs it will rub. 2.4 fits nice.
MTB yumyum what do you have that 2.4 Rekon paired with our back?
Ardent Race 2.35
I feel like it's the best traction to weight ratio for light duty xc stuff. Not a lot of braking power though
Well I pulled the trigger... but I ended up with the 2019 Ripmo. The new Ripmo and the Ripley were really so far apart in terms of travel/capability that I decided to go a little less enduro and a little more trail friendly for my tight twisty Vermont trails. I’m not a super aggressive rider but like a capable bike as I do some lift access few times a year. I got the Factory fork and a full SLX build for $4k. I think that’s a great bike at a great price.
Mr. Yumyum,
Brands/models aside, what would you say is the "best bang for your buck" Full Suspension 29er?
Really depends on the trails you like to ride and how fast you like to descend. For me, the best bang for your buck bike is the Ibis Ripley... Fun factor off the charts, climbs really well, descend good enough for the rate of speed I want to go down hill and can handle a wide variety of trails and terrain.... extremely rewarding bike to own and ride! I love mine!
@@mtbyumyum I been riding a V1 Ripley for years. The V4 is a no brainer, but would like more stability on the descents. I was thinking the Ripmo AF or even the Ripmo V1.
Yeah, you would definitely get more stability. From either of those bikes
The more I hear about the Ripmo the more disappointed I am that the aluminum version came out a month after I bought my Marin Hawk Hill 3. I just wish they spec'ed it with the SLX drivetrain for $3k instead of NX.
Dang, bummer...
@@mtbyumyum For sure, though the bike I have is good, but I suppose I could pick up a used Ripmo AF a year or two down the road if I still feel the same.
Wish someone would do a similar test - but hide the name of the bike/parts, etc. Somehow just conceal everything that would reveal the bike. Test it and tell us what you think, then reveal what bike was tested. That would come across as new, authentic, etc.
Sounds fun
Of course the Switchblade climbs better and is solid. It's the next Turner that was never made..
Interesting, Yeah, I for get about Turner bikes. Doesn't seem like they're making bikes anymore???
What is the length on the shock
Thanks, I find your reviews interesting. You are 5'8 and 140 lbs? For me, I am 6' and 225, perfer to hear reviews from big guys who ride these bikes. Myself and friends ride some of these carbon bikes and you get pops and fatigued sounds when riding, like somethings going to break. Unfortunately you are much smaller, what you say is for guys your size. I do like your reviews on types of gear. No offense.
What trail were you riding ?
it's all depends on the suspension settings.
Exactly.
Yes I wonder if he just added slow speed compression to the ibis if it does not end up feeling like the pivot.
Trust me. I was doing everything I could to get the pivot to feel more Poppy and playful. Despite setting the rebound faster more air or less air and so on. They're just different feeling bikes.
MTB yumyum yeah I can see the pivot not being able to feel as lively as the ibis due to shock tunes (the pivot probably can’t get as light) but I would guess you could damp out the ibis enough to feel kind of like the pivot. When I can off of a pivot I tried to damp out my ibis thinking it would pedal better. It did but in the end as I got used to it I ended up more or less on the ibis recommended settings for my Ripmo. I am 166lbd with 220psi and I use 7 clicks from fully closed.
How does the v2 climb? Is it something you could ride all day? Could it get me up long techy trails faster?
Absolutely. For a 140+mm bike it climbs exceptionally well. With the right tire setup this could be a great 3-4 hour do everything all day type of bike
MTB yumyum nice thanks. I have a demo scheduled April 1st and I can’t wait I just want to drive it up a techy black trail and slam it back down.
What’s your favorite tire combo on the Ripmo?
so many good options.... depends on the trails a little I guess... Asssagi/Dissector or DHF/DHRII
What about aesthetically, do you like the straight lines of the Pivot or the cursive lines of the Ibis?
The Pivot looks better in my opinion
@@mtbyumyum I see, I tend to agree with that, looks pretty clean 👍