Man I’m just happy someone is finally addressing Scru and what’s he’s caused, like we didn’t really need to be considered “real hip hop” if this was what it’s gonna lead to.
Same. He keeps ragging on the fact that the music is about stuff like anime, comics, games, whatever and he thinks it's "not real hip hop", like we need his permission. This music and community has existed before Scru and will continue with or without him.
Fabvls music hit different when your in a dark place, his music almost calls to you the way he talks bout how you feel in that moment, the emotion in his tracks just connects in a way no one else does
Yeah Scru has been really annoying and toxic lately, I honestly used to like his videos but it seems like he actually hates anime rap, and wants to transform it to “real” hip hop. I love that Mari was like “why do you get to decide what’s real?”
I loved Mari's response. Honestly. The internet makes people braver than they actually are and has them thinking their online nonsense actually means something to people. Most of the nerdcore community works way too hard to spend any time on fake drama.
I mean, I'm glad Mari did this. Someone needed to speak on it, bruh been drama whoring this whole Dizzy/Jamar situation for views(on his secondary channel no less haha). Like I really hope this leads to Scru straightening his self out, No anime wasn't as good as he thought it was(and I felt bad for Slick) and it was mad sus that he dropped that "Scu'd up" as clean as it was shortly there after. I like the dude and his reactions can be fun but bruh needs to understand what nerdcore is actually about and not push his bullshit onto others in a community that welcomed him in at first but now basically want him to stop...
3:40 Just for clarification, I've met Shwabadi at MomoCon 2022 and I can confirm that him, Rustage, Breeton, Cam, etc have stated this wholeheartedly before.
I agree about Scru - he’s always mentioning/implying beef when reacting. Or making weird comparisons to “real rap/hip-hop”. It’s part of why I don’t watch him anymore 🤔
That and his general disrespect for anime rappers is just so obvious 😭 he says over and over that aside from a few people he has no idea who anybody is despite the fact that a majority of rappers in the community have created unique pockets for themselves
I really remember when I loved scrus pasion about anime rap, now im sorry but scru needs to sit down and know that hes just a fan and not the fucking judge of nerdcore and he thinks everything should be like what he wants it to be like.
The thing is Jamar dropped a diss track. Not scru. Everyone is mad at scru because he's saying what happens in hiphop. Verbal sparring is a part of hip hop. I don't understand why people can't get that.
@@lexh5121 Exactly, Scrub isn't saying to hate ppl or isolate ppl. It's just fun to see a little back and forth on tracks, as he said rap was invented for ppl to duke it out with words and not actions.
@@lexh5121 nah scru is saying that he looses some respect people that dont do a respond to the infamous jamar "diss" First jamars songs was ass only dizzy and mix needed to do a respond. And scru is talking like he is the god father of nerdcore and hes like everyones judge and like hes opinion means everything which is far from the truth hes goofy.
@@lexh5121 @Lex H Now, this thing I genuinly don't understand. Isn't hip hop just a music genre? Why would it be part of it? Why cant you just make hip hop music without drama? Which is also why Mari's "anime rap isnt real rap, Scru who let you decide?" resonates with me
I'm glad someone finally said something about scru. Every time someone says "I'm better" in a song he thinks it's firing shots at someone, it's like he's trying to manifest it. People love drama because it makes their loves interesting and creators love it for the views
There's no real beef, I think. A lot of people are trying to 'create' beef and in this case Mari is telling them to shut up and focus on their own shit. Only thing that could really count as beef so far is Mari basically telling Scru to go fuck himself. Which is honestly more of the nerdcore community as a whole getting fed up with him and wanting him gone. Mari's just the one savage enough to say it so plainly.
Aye... Mari said something more important that calling out dizzy for being a busy man... Scru... and his instigating ... also the fact Scru in it for the hip hop side of anime rap... yet get mad when everyone keeps talking about anime... kinda the point of anime rap to speak on anime ...
Nah aint no way. We know by now that Scru will probably just react to it, then react again, wait a week, then react once more. Dude does everything BUT rap anymore
@@izumaiya nah bruh he said on Twitter that he won't react to it because mari literally said not to react to it. And he also said that he finna do a response as well which is just petty asf bruh I kind of lost all respect for scru
@@yaboijaden1301 WHY would he not respond at this point? Did you hear how Mari was talking? That's what a callout and a diss sounds like, unlike whatever Jamar's thing was supposed to be. Who is gonna take that on the chin from a guy they respect?
he talking at 6:30 basically has the energy oh Shwabadi saying "The UK trio is me, rustage, and Connor quest. Breeton is just an extra or a side character." And everyone woud be like "You heard him breeton. you need to write a whole diss track about him now or you arent a real rapper" shit is stupid in the hiphop community, 'specially for the fans and bystanders. Just shut up yall
I think it’s so sad such a great community has to deal with this drama, I can only imagine how draining it is for every artist within this community to hear things like this. When I was a kid I didn’t like rap because I didn’t like the topics that artists would rap about. I always felt so disconnected with the artists because they never spoke about my interests. But since I’ve discovered nerdcore, majority of the music and artists have brought me out of dark places, made me feel confident in myself and made me feel welcome in this amazing community through the music and strong bonds of friendship within nerdcore. To me every nerdcore song is a real hip hop song, because I get real excitement from each song release!
Yeah, its funny because scru specifically talks about how rap needs to resonate with the individual, but constantly talks about how anime rap isnt relatable. Like it hasnt crossed his mind that maybe other people dont relate to street rap, gansta rap, etc and might relate more to stuff which they grew up with
Spoken from the heart. Watching his reaction to "Easy Bag" then watching him call Anime rap not real rap really pealed some layers off and exposed an ugly inside. And after watching his reactions to the Pokémon cyphers, it's just crazy
bro yall speaking like this cause all y'all only listen to anime rap lmao. whether you like it or not if u go to school and brag about listening to anime rap everyone gonna think u weird compared to listening to actual rap. ofc yall saying this on the comment section of a nerdcore artist lmao
"He gave you a bar, you gave him a verse." *He says after making an entire song with a chorus and everything* I still agree with him (especially on the Scru call out), just a funny little observation XD
I see what u saying, but Mari was one of the people that Jamar legit dissed. most of the people responding aint even get dissed, they just putting their 2 cents in bc they wanna hop on the bandwagon
Thing is: Mari only gave ONE bar for Jamar. The rest was him clowning on all the people responding to it like they're in the conversation, or putting Scru in his place for instigating.
@@meowsquared that is also facts, Jamar gave him one bar and he gave one back. The shit he said ab Scru needed to be said way more bc reactors instigating way more than Jamar. Jamar started it for sure, but Scru the one going around saying "you guys HAVE to respond".
@@meowsquared Ya know this was meant to be a joke and not to be taken seriously... especially considering I am on Mari's side here because I think Scru is a incredibly negative and toxic influence on the nerdcore community (he's not the only reactor who contributed to the problem but he most definitely is the main one and this isn't even the first time he started shit like this... considering he was a big contributor to Sl!ck's big outrage a few years back as well).
I'm glad you got to this, we needed a perspective like yours on the whole thing. Also as a sidenote, it was hilarious on Scrus Hashira cypher reaction, thinking Connors verse was yours, gassing it up saying it was some of the best rapping he's heard from you, then realises it's Connors verse and immediately says "it's the second best verse"...does he have something against him? haha
yeah istg scru has something against connor lmao he never gives him props for a good verse and when he does its always backhanded asf like in the pseudo legendary pokemon cypher lmao
The last big drama scru threw his two cents in on Connor gave him shit about it, I think even called him out directly, so he probably butt hurt about it
Honesly Mari is so real for saying that about Scru, like he is sooo hypocritical and his influence while it has done a lot of good for the community, has done almost as much bad, especially in terms of the language his fans use
Scru has done his job to feature nerdcore rappers on songs & cyphers, which is great. However, I honestly believe he’s brought a lot of pettiness to this community & has been pushing for drama while claiming this genre of rap is not real hip hop.
Thing is the nerdcore community was doing just fine and thriving without scru. If anything, the nerdcore community has been putting food on his plate for some time now and dude's just been feeding off it and taking advantage of it like a parasite. All he's really brought to the community is drama, hypocrisy, and ill-intent.
@@meowsquared i couldn’t have said it any better. This has been my thoughts on Scru for a long time now. He mad disrespectful & downplays the genre while reacting to the artists for views.
i always saw nerdcore as a mix between everythin,whichis also why i originally fell in love with it. everyone in this community has a very different style. and its amazing what somg artist can come up with. some songs give me rock vibes while others like fabvl has bits of metal or sinwave have bits of metal mixed in. im no music expert so i really don't know how you would exactly call nerdcore. its so big and different that you really can't call it a single genre. also all the its not real hip hop stuff is complete bs
I love randomly finding out that there are issues in the anime section of nerdcore. Also I love the fact that mari called out people for taking a single bar and making full versus and then made a single bar for Jamar just to back himself up.
Well according to scrus hip hop rules if you get dissed you have to respond, and it needs to go atleast two rounds, max three, I believe scru be acting goofy with his reactions to these and trying to gas up everyone to instigate
I kind of agree with that, or at least the fact that it shouldn't go past three rounds. Even that's a bit much I think. I'd say two rounds should actually be the max. Scru's an annoying instigator but no matter how much you disagree or dislike a person they will probably occasionally say something you end up agreeing with and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@jackmanleblanc2518 that is very true, there will always be moments that you agree and disagree with what people say, the whole rounds thing is straight from scrus mouth though
I'm genuinely happy someone finally said it.the way I see it he's mad toxic to this community for NO reason. just enjoy the "anime rap" that you came for when you pressed play on the video. no need to make it all about "hip hop".
I definitely agree. Scru loves drama so he's been trying to make it. I like some of his reactions but his attitude towards nerdcore is basically a polar opposite of the actual nerdcore fans. We love the amv, the full on anime tracks. My favorite part of the community is how open it is. I've been building a studio so that I can actually start making my own anime tracks.
As a black man I always see my people trying to find beef where there is none when it involves rap, just ignore people like that, y'all nerdcore artists are doing a great thing, anime and non-anime love y'all, just keep doing y'all thing.
Not even just with rap. Just life in general if someone mentions your name do you have to respond? Especially if it’s not that deep….. music is supposed to be a reflection of you. If you don’t feel the need to start somethin then why fake it
Yeah, 100% agree on everything "mari" said/rapped on this track, I am so tired of this shit, my whole "home page" on YT is full of this so called "ReAl HiP hOp" (imagine It was said in a dumb way), the people who responded cuz their name was spoken directlly in a diss track, thats fine, but why 3 billion other people are doing responses when they are not included within this dumbass "rivalry", and that Scru likes this and wants It going is crazy to me. Now I'm gonna stop cuz It would get really long. SeeYaLater
This really made me appreciate the little joke shit Ty did. Scru feed on the second channel is just responses shit just look like a “ New Challenger Approaching “ party ass battle of saying another person’s name in a song.
Nerdcore has been steadily growing for a Long LONG time we all seen it so I don’t understand why scru acts like the scene is a second away from dying if they don’t listen to his advice😭😭
That man was really going in on scru. It’s such a funny position scru is in cuz if he drops a response then it’s gonna seem over the top. If he don’t say shit he’s gonna be called weak. So it’s interesting to see how he’ll handle this. I just know shit getting spicy and I’m here for it.
I really hope we're in the timeline where scru watches this and actually listens to Mari, and to you. And starts yelling out "OH THEY SQUABBLING" in his videos. I know for a fact it's not gonna happen but I really hope it does
I still think that my favorite reaction to any sort of possible dis-track would be Divide music's reaction to the Killshot rap from DPS in which he was so excited to be mentioned tangentially (referring to power ballads).
You and Darnell Bradley are the voices of reason. Honestly, the anime rap community needs to cut ties with Scru & Munfu. All they have done in the past year is create unnecessary problems
@@wastedxalien7249 untrue, scru didn’t really do jack shit. Also it’s not even about the amv’s its the content within the song, i can stream that on spotify all day.
Let it be known all of this nerd control related beef & the disses is cause Jamar could’ve just told Dizzy over the phone how he feels but wants to act like a snake & now so many people in the community are beefing just goes to show Jamar is a troll also I agree I’m tired of hearing that ugly sounding Nerd control beat it’s overused now
Mari really talked on this but like 80% of the community already hates scru or atleast the shit he says. Chasing drama no matter how small a problem is and always saying the same stuff about anime rap not being real hip hop, so let mari cook him and he can go back to his "real hip hop"
Scru fr is a bad influence on the community. Like what he did was good in the beginning. He was learning about the game in early 2020 and was super respectful and actually learning about anime. Then he turned into a self righteous figure of the scene trying to differentiate the “rapping as an anime character” from “anime inspired “real rap”” then shit he did with Jeesh was more embarrassing than anything, same with slick and anyone else he’s trying to force out of the “anime rap” label. He’s a good rapper and a funny reactor no doubt, I hope his diss track tomorrow doesn’t suck
I ain't gonna lie, scru was the one who got my attention to the anime rap scene. Honestly I find myself listening to more artists from this scene than any other at this point. So I'm glad I got here lol, however some stuff he says is corny. I'm fine if some of ya'll had to diss track eachother. But the whole jamar rose thing was lame and didn't need hype.
Purely out of selfish satisfaction I am very glad for this track cause to say it how it is, Scru been kinda pissin me off But again I am but a mere nobody although I do wanna use the hashtag here I will not as he also said to use it to fake reactors and the bear is pretty genuine even if he holds himself out of the situation. That's fine as long as one is honest about it
If I'm getting this correct, nerdcore is 30 years old? As a fan, or at least someone who wants to call himself one, I'd really like to know more about this because I really thought it was a younger subgenre. Can anyone shed some light?
You're right on how this argument is not really that logical because it's good to weigh your opinions especially if your opinions come from the rap world if like somebody's anime rapper and somebody like a quote unquote real rapper that doesn't make a difference rap is rap hip hop is hip hop it doesn't matter what you're wrapping about it matters if you can spit bars
Scru has been a little corny projecting his view of what IS Hiphop but I didn’t expect this. I get it though. I just expected somebody to just sit down with him and be like, “You know Hip Hop is a BIG genre and what you’re describing as Hip Hop is just a sub genre of hip hop? Not all of hip hop is battle rap.”
He did ask for people to speak with their pen. Maybe he'll finally listen because people have been trying to have that talk with him since the beginning
intersting how some call anime rap not real rap ... well yah its based off of anime but funny how these "anime rapper" still find a way to make the music relatable , more so than alot of modern rap and hip hop. just because an artist isnt rapping about your history does not make it invalid content . i find it more skill full for a writer to write rap or hip hop in a form that can reach multiple cultures / communities like most of yall do !
Yknow, I'm pretty sure the closest we've had to real beef in nerdcore was Ty and Khan. Now mind you, I am newer to this community but still. But seriously I used to like Scru but he took a turn at some point. Rewatching this makes me feel nostalgic for the Dax days
I don’t know how to feel about scru, I mainly watch his reaction videos for nerdcore artists and then he made a second channel for them which is fine to do if he reacted to all nerdcore on their. I don’t know why rustage reactions are on his main channel and not the lit channel which has all the other nerdcore artists but that’s up to him. Then the next thing that scru has upset me with is that he isn’t paying attention to the songs or the artists as much as I see other reactors do. A very good example is the cross guild song because he listened to the whole song thinking it was a Connor quest song with a couple lines from rustage and shwabadi on the chorus until the end of the song when it showed who was rapping each character then only rewinded it a bit to realize that rustage rapped buggy and then was like “I’ll have to give it a second listen to figure out who rapped where” the first time I listened to cross guild it took me a couple of minutes and a lot of backing up to figure out who had who, except rustage that was easy. To me it feels like scru enjoys only rustages songs enough to keep him on the main channel and then gives half hearted reactions to the rest of nerdcore, I am saying all this without seeing scru’a reaction to this song but I might just unsubscribe from scru’s channel
Brah, I get what 954 was saying in with it. Way too many responses to Jamar. My only thing is why would you do a track with a person then turn around and call them a Con? 🤣😅.
I could be wrong, but ever since it dropped/put together, scru has been getting real weird about anime rap not being real rap and has been trying to instigate a lot of shit. Not that it wasn't there from time to time before, but it's been increasing a lot in consistency. It feels like every other reaction from him these days has been "real hip hop this" "Rap needs this this and that." Which is fine from an industry perspective I guess with his background, but this community of rap isn't industry, and he doesn't seem to understand that. TLDR; Since the track dropped, Scru has been trying too hard to push his brand of rap on a community that isn't about what he deems is correct and Mari got sick of it.
Dizzy owed Jamar Rose a verse on a song, but he never gave it to him. So instead of just talking to him over the phone or something, Jamar Rose made a diss track called "Nerd Control" calling him out. In this song, he calls out Dizzy a bunch as the diss track is about him specifically but he also called out Mix Williams and Mari. However near the end of the song he calls out other Nerdcore artists. However, All he did was list off names like DPS, FabvL, Shwabadi and more, one after the other and claim he was better than them. That's literally it, that's all he did. but a bunch of people started making responses to it and blowing it way out of portions. Scru Face Jean especially hyped the hell out of it. However, claiming you're better than someone is just normal rapper stuff. So the whole thing is just pointless drama over a single verse
You know peso’s energy right? The unorthodox and wild style he has when he raps? Yeah people basically watered that down to match what they can do and their strengths. Taking what they can use and leaving the soul of it behind. That’s basically it.
@@GameGuy667 a lot of people actually. He’s the one who created the unorthodox flows that land on your ear in both a weird but fire way. I don’t really know how else to describe it but it’s what makes peso him.
I used to enjoy watching Scru's videos but I stopped when he kept trying to gatekeep the nerdcore community with, as like plenty of others mentioned, saying that nerdcore isn't real hip hop. I remember back when he reacted to DPS's Diamond is Unbreakable rap that he wanted more direct call outs or something. Like why.
Im just glad someones calling him out. Hes been saying and doing hypocritical shit for ages, which is ironic cuz hes always been like 'people in hiphop be extremely close minded about anime rap and youtube rap', but all hes been saying is close minded af, talking about how this is 'real' rap and people gotta respond if they called out, how 'we don't wanna hear another luffy verse' and how you gotta respect both sides but he keeps tryna push his own idea onto the entire scene He's done nothing but prove he doesn't understand nor respect the nerdcore side of hiphop and what its actually about. There ain't nothing nerdy or anime about two dudes battle rapping over imagined insults, he can keep tryna push his view on it all he wants, it don't make it true
Did Scru really say anime rap is not real rap? Cause that’s a WILD thing to say, he sounds like every elitist musician that always go “you just don’t understand the true art of ___ because you are simply uneducated.” (I’m gonna steal a word he loves to use a lot) Let people enjoy things *GOOFY* !
I was a huge fan of scru when he was mainly in the youtube scene but i haven liked a single one of his anime songs tbh, he seems to gaslight and instigate this argument
Mari spittin facts tho. But personally I wanna see shwab, rustage, Mari, fabvl, DPS, Dizzy and ty go head to head. off some we friends but let's see who can out rap who
I wonder how long it’ll be before Scru writes a diss track and acts like he killed Nerdcore or some stupid shit like that and his fanbase believes it? A week? Two weeks? We all know how much dude loves the drama and wants the spotlight on him.
Why are people so mad, that we here doing our own thing like the fuck. Mari said it best " when the Hate permeate, is when you really happy" fuck trying to be a Hater to the Nerdcore community like seriously. We enjoy it , is why peopl Ham and Shwab drop albums and it does well.
Anime Rap/Hip Hop is its own genuine form of music. It differs greatly to normal Rap and Hip Hop due to it having a defined Character or Anime as its source and subject matter (usually an Anime or Character that we as listeners are very familiar with) This makes a song connect with its audience even if it is not musically or lyrically very good. Normal rap or hip hop usually requires a known artist or a decent relatable lyrics to be appreciated by its audiences but this genre also has a ton of wannabes desperate to be relevant in the industry and doing stupid things to become so. If you want to be relevant in the Anime Rap genre you just create content and upload. If its good content then you get views. If its bad you dont. Please dont bring real world crap into this universe that at its heart is 100% fictitious but in our hearts is 100% real and thriving. On i side not i thought Mari's response was on point.
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i challenge you to a duel for best second channel Shwabados!
*its Mr shawboy jones back with another reaction?*
A react off has been called
Versus here we come! Hahaha
Gameboy Jones gonna pull up with all 5 piece of exodia or maybe an ojama deck could be either
@@axelexplode it has been decided
“The less I say here the better” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He'll be talking later on his response with Jamar's beat
One of the reactors that speak honestly and not just trying to hype up people
Always gonna be impartial on here!
Shwab was trying so hard to hold back from anything, you could see it on his face
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Mari speaking facts. I already rocked with him but after this my respect for him just skyrocketed.
I'm so sick of these responses but thank christ Mari said some actual real shit. Every bar valid
Man I’m just happy someone is finally addressing Scru and what’s he’s caused, like we didn’t really need to be considered “real hip hop” if this was what it’s gonna lead to.
Same. He keeps ragging on the fact that the music is about stuff like anime, comics, games, whatever and he thinks it's "not real hip hop", like we need his permission. This music and community has existed before Scru and will continue with or without him.
@@gamtheus And that’s the simple truth
Man's saying anime rap don't hit if it references the anime but gets turnt up on a DragonBall rap
@@CasperTheV 😭😭😭😭
we flooded one of his last vids saying that if he don't reply MARI wins
If we talking people saved from suicide via music, my bet is on Fabvl for having the highest count.
homie can really speak to a broken soul lmao
Fabvls music hit different when your in a dark place, his music almost calls to you the way he talks bout how you feel in that moment, the emotion in his tracks just connects in a way no one else does
Wasn’t suicide but rustages trauma song helped me out a lot
Yeah Scru has been really annoying and toxic lately, I honestly used to like his videos but it seems like he actually hates anime rap, and wants to transform it to “real” hip hop. I love that Mari was like “why do you get to decide what’s real?”
Scru likes and respects the talent, but doesn't respect their preferences. Man has gotten outta line.
I loved Mari's response. Honestly. The internet makes people braver than they actually are and has them thinking their online nonsense actually means something to people. Most of the nerdcore community works way too hard to spend any time on fake drama.
I mean, I'm glad Mari did this. Someone needed to speak on it, bruh been drama whoring this whole Dizzy/Jamar situation for views(on his secondary channel no less haha). Like I really hope this leads to Scru straightening his self out, No anime wasn't as good as he thought it was(and I felt bad for Slick) and it was mad sus that he dropped that "Scu'd up" as clean as it was shortly there after. I like the dude and his reactions can be fun but bruh needs to understand what nerdcore is actually about and not push his bullshit onto others in a community that welcomed him in at first but now basically want him to stop...
I'm glad Mari did this too. Somebody needed to address Scru's clownery.
Apparently Scru said on Twitter (lol) that he watched the video and will be "responding" cause, you know, he likes to stir the pot.
@@jackmanleblanc2518 oh I know he is, and I can guarantee it wont be as good.
and he needs to keep his damn shirt on. hahaha
Sl!ck carried No Anime tbh…
3:40 Just for clarification, I've met Shwabadi at MomoCon 2022 and I can confirm that him, Rustage, Breeton, Cam, etc have stated this wholeheartedly before.
I agree about Scru - he’s always mentioning/implying beef when reacting. Or making weird comparisons to “real rap/hip-hop”. It’s part of why I don’t watch him anymore 🤔
That and his general disrespect for anime rappers is just so obvious 😭 he says over and over that aside from a few people he has no idea who anybody is despite the fact that a majority of rappers in the community have created unique pockets for themselves
Mari really came in like a father with his belt, to discipline his sons
I really remember when I loved scrus pasion about anime rap, now im sorry but scru needs to sit down and know that hes just a fan and not the fucking judge of nerdcore and he thinks everything should be like what he wants it to be like.
Dude facts, think how much he talks about people not giving him his respect for putting them on
The thing is Jamar dropped a diss track. Not scru. Everyone is mad at scru because he's saying what happens in hiphop. Verbal sparring is a part of hip hop. I don't understand why people can't get that.
@@lexh5121 Exactly, Scrub isn't saying to hate ppl or isolate ppl. It's just fun to see a little back and forth on tracks, as he said rap was invented for ppl to duke it out with words and not actions.
@@lexh5121 nah scru is saying that he looses some respect people that dont do a respond to the infamous jamar "diss"
First jamars songs was ass only dizzy and mix needed to do a respond.
And scru is talking like he is the god father of nerdcore and hes like everyones judge and like hes opinion means everything which is far from the truth hes goofy.
@@lexh5121 @Lex H Now, this thing I genuinly don't understand. Isn't hip hop just a music genre? Why would it be part of it? Why cant you just make hip hop music without drama?
Which is also why Mari's "anime rap isnt real rap, Scru who let you decide?" resonates with me
I'm glad someone finally said something about scru. Every time someone says "I'm better" in a song he thinks it's firing shots at someone, it's like he's trying to manifest it. People love drama because it makes their loves interesting and creators love it for the views
10:14 I ain't even ganna hold you
Bro what is going on in the nerdcore community, beef getting thrown around like a cow slaughter
That’s funny XD it’s Hackfleisch
I know.
Chill man. Mari had the 2nd best(2nd to Dizzy) response. He was spitting facts.
There's no real beef, I think. A lot of people are trying to 'create' beef and in this case Mari is telling them to shut up and focus on their own shit.
Only thing that could really count as beef so far is Mari basically telling Scru to go fuck himself. Which is honestly more of the nerdcore community as a whole getting fed up with him and wanting him gone. Mari's just the one savage enough to say it so plainly.
Aye... Mari said something more important that calling out dizzy for being a busy man...
Scru... and his instigating ... also the fact Scru in it for the hip hop side of anime rap... yet get mad when everyone keeps talking about anime... kinda the point of anime rap to speak on anime ...
Knowing how petty Scru, he will definitely do a response song. I bet that on my life 😂🔥
Edit: I called it 😂
Nah aint no way. We know by now that Scru will probably just react to it, then react again, wait a week, then react once more. Dude does everything BUT rap anymore
@@izumaiya nah bruh he said on Twitter that he won't react to it because mari literally said not to react to it. And he also said that he finna do a response as well which is just petty asf bruh I kind of lost all respect for scru
Allegedly he's working on one right now. He posted a pic on Twitter of him next to a mic
@@yaboijaden1301 WHY would he not respond at this point? Did you hear how Mari was talking? That's what a callout and a diss sounds like, unlike whatever Jamar's thing was supposed to be. Who is gonna take that on the chin from a guy they respect?
@@Sekooma Bc he'd have to make a point. And well. He's just gonna embarrass himself
he talking at 6:30 basically has the energy oh Shwabadi saying "The UK trio is me, rustage, and Connor quest. Breeton is just an extra or a side character." And everyone woud be like "You heard him breeton. you need to write a whole diss track about him now or you arent a real rapper" shit is stupid in the hiphop community, 'specially for the fans and bystanders. Just shut up yall
I think it’s so sad such a great community has to deal with this drama, I can only imagine how draining it is for every artist within this community to hear things like this.
When I was a kid I didn’t like rap because I didn’t like the topics that artists would rap about. I always felt so disconnected with the artists because they never spoke about my interests. But since I’ve discovered nerdcore, majority of the music and artists have brought me out of dark places, made me feel confident in myself and made me feel welcome in this amazing community through the music and strong bonds of friendship within nerdcore. To me every nerdcore song is a real hip hop song, because I get real excitement from each song release!
we need more people who think like this
That’s such a valid way of looking at this
Yeah, its funny because scru specifically talks about how rap needs to resonate with the individual, but constantly talks about how anime rap isnt relatable. Like it hasnt crossed his mind that maybe other people dont relate to street rap, gansta rap, etc and might relate more to stuff which they grew up with
Spoken from the heart. Watching his reaction to "Easy Bag" then watching him call Anime rap not real rap really pealed some layers off and exposed an ugly inside.
And after watching his reactions to the Pokémon cyphers, it's just crazy
bro yall speaking like this cause all y'all only listen to anime rap lmao. whether you like it or not if u go to school and brag about listening to anime rap everyone gonna think u weird compared to listening to actual rap. ofc yall saying this on the comment section of a nerdcore artist lmao
"He gave you a bar, you gave him a verse."
*He says after making an entire song with a chorus and everything* I still agree with him (especially on the Scru call out), just a funny little observation XD
I see what u saying, but Mari was one of the people that Jamar legit dissed. most of the people responding aint even get dissed, they just putting their 2 cents in bc they wanna hop on the bandwagon
@@boxlad7583 I know, I was just teasing a little lol
Thing is: Mari only gave ONE bar for Jamar. The rest was him clowning on all the people responding to it like they're in the conversation, or putting Scru in his place for instigating.
@@meowsquared that is also facts, Jamar gave him one bar and he gave one back. The shit he said ab Scru needed to be said way more bc reactors instigating way more than Jamar. Jamar started it for sure, but Scru the one going around saying "you guys HAVE to respond".
@@meowsquared Ya know this was meant to be a joke and not to be taken seriously... especially considering I am on Mari's side here because I think Scru is a incredibly negative and toxic influence on the nerdcore community (he's not the only reactor who contributed to the problem but he most definitely is the main one and this isn't even the first time he started shit like this... considering he was a big contributor to Sl!ck's big outrage a few years back as well).
I'm glad you got to this, we needed a perspective like yours on the whole thing. Also as a sidenote, it was hilarious on Scrus Hashira cypher reaction, thinking Connors verse was yours, gassing it up saying it was some of the best rapping he's heard from you, then realises it's Connors verse and immediately says "it's the second best verse"...does he have something against him? haha
This is a question I also have! Lol
yeah istg scru has something against connor lmao he never gives him props for a good verse and when he does its always backhanded asf like in the pseudo legendary pokemon cypher lmao
The last big drama scru threw his two cents in on Connor gave him shit about it, I think even called him out directly, so he probably butt hurt about it
Connor has called out Scru's toxic BS before and Scru holds a grudge
Yes he does
Honesly Mari is so real for saying that about Scru, like he is sooo hypocritical and his influence while it has done a lot of good for the community, has done almost as much bad, especially in terms of the language his fans use
ROSE! WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR CHANNEL HOLY SHIT I MISSED UR REACTIONS
@@mangakage670 I'm sorry to be gone, but I'm glad you enjoyed the reactions, I just have been so bogged down with college I decided to stop
@@arosesthrone6420 Damn man I feel you
What good?
@@ChrisWhitDnd He just gives a lot of artists exposure through his large viewer base, which is good
Scru has done his job to feature nerdcore rappers on songs & cyphers, which is great. However, I honestly believe he’s brought a lot of pettiness to this community & has been pushing for drama while claiming this genre of rap is not real hip hop.
Thing is the nerdcore community was doing just fine and thriving without scru. If anything, the nerdcore community has been putting food on his plate for some time now and dude's just been feeding off it and taking advantage of it like a parasite.
All he's really brought to the community is drama, hypocrisy, and ill-intent.
@@meowsquared i couldn’t have said it any better. This has been my thoughts on Scru for a long time now. He mad disrespectful & downplays the genre while reacting to the artists for views.
Can we stop pretending that nerdcore artists are the ones reaping the benefits when scru features them?
@@ChrisWhitDnd oh I 100% agree! I mean it’s all in Scru’s gain, especially, in the next week or so he’s talking about how said rappers genre is trash.
i always saw nerdcore as a mix between everythin,whichis also why i originally fell in love with it. everyone in this community has a very different style. and its amazing what somg artist can come up with. some songs give me rock vibes while others like fabvl has bits of metal or sinwave have bits of metal mixed in. im no music expert so i really don't know how you would exactly call nerdcore. its so big and different that you really can't call it a single genre. also all the its not real hip hop stuff is complete bs
I love randomly finding out that there are issues in the anime section of nerdcore. Also I love the fact that mari called out people for taking a single bar and making full versus and then made a single bar for Jamar just to back himself up.
Well according to scrus hip hop rules if you get dissed you have to respond, and it needs to go atleast two rounds, max three, I believe scru be acting goofy with his reactions to these and trying to gas up everyone to instigate
That's the one thing I agree with, tho. If there is a two sided beef through competition, one round isn't enough
I kind of agree with that, or at least the fact that it shouldn't go past three rounds. Even that's a bit much I think. I'd say two rounds should actually be the max.
Scru's an annoying instigator but no matter how much you disagree or dislike a person they will probably occasionally say something you end up agreeing with and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@jackmanleblanc2518 that is very true, there will always be moments that you agree and disagree with what people say, the whole rounds thing is straight from scrus mouth though
scru a D1 instigator
@@jamesfraser6491 Oh, I know. I saw that video.
I'm genuinely happy someone finally said it.the way I see it he's mad toxic to this community for NO reason. just enjoy the "anime rap" that you came for when you pressed play on the video. no need to make it all about "hip hop".
I definitely agree. Scru loves drama so he's been trying to make it. I like some of his reactions but his attitude towards nerdcore is basically a polar opposite of the actual nerdcore fans. We love the amv, the full on anime tracks. My favorite part of the community is how open it is. I've been building a studio so that I can actually start making my own anime tracks.
really glad scru got called out dude has become a clown for views
Dizzy smoked Jamar, but Mari just came in and spat real facts
I literally slept and woke up again and everything tripled wth
This man scru fr keep trying to start something that never existed in the first place
The face Shwab made at 10:05 killed me 😭😭😭😂😂
As a black man I always see my people trying to find beef where there is none when it involves rap, just ignore people like that, y'all nerdcore artists are doing a great thing, anime and non-anime love y'all, just keep doing y'all thing.
Not even just with rap. Just life in general if someone mentions your name do you have to respond? Especially if it’s not that deep….. music is supposed to be a reflection of you. If you don’t feel the need to start somethin then why fake it
@@chosenone8964 i get what you sayin completely bro it really ain’t that deep
Yeah, 100% agree on everything "mari" said/rapped on this track, I am so tired of this shit, my whole "home page" on YT is full of this so called "ReAl HiP hOp" (imagine It was said in a dumb way), the people who responded cuz their name was spoken directlly in a diss track, thats fine, but why 3 billion other people are doing responses when they are not included within this dumbass "rivalry", and that Scru likes this and wants It going is crazy to me. Now I'm gonna stop cuz It would get really long.
SeeYaLater
This really made me appreciate the little joke shit Ty did. Scru feed on the second channel is just responses shit just look like a “ New Challenger Approaching “ party ass battle of saying another person’s name in a song.
Nerdcore has been steadily growing for a Long LONG time we all seen it so I don’t understand why scru acts like the scene is a second away from dying if they don’t listen to his advice😭😭
That man was really going in on scru. It’s such a funny position scru is in cuz if he drops a response then it’s gonna seem over the top. If he don’t say shit he’s gonna be called weak. So it’s interesting to see how he’ll handle this. I just know shit getting spicy and I’m here for it.
Braggadocius V2 is a Dan Bull diss cause Shwab said "Ayo, Dan Bull!"
“Ya’ll gotta show your faces more” is a line pointed at the artists in this community that rubs me the wrong way. I can’t put my finger on why.
Yeah..I guess marshmallow isn't a real DJ.
I really hope we're in the timeline where scru watches this and actually listens to Mari, and to you. And starts yelling out "OH THEY SQUABBLING" in his videos. I know for a fact it's not gonna happen but I really hope it does
Scru prolly writing his response RIGHT now
He said on Twitter he will not be posting a reaction to it and it looks like he has a response on the way
@@ultimetacooler we can only hope.
I still think that my favorite reaction to any sort of possible dis-track would be Divide music's reaction to the Killshot rap from DPS in which he was so excited to be mentioned tangentially (referring to power ballads).
You and Darnell Bradley are the voices of reason. Honestly, the anime rap community needs to cut ties with Scru & Munfu. All they have done in the past year is create unnecessary problems
Who’s Munfu?
@@yasukethesamurai another reactor who is famous for hugging Scru's nuts
@@Satsaru Infamous, actually. Notorious even.
Without Scru we'd be stuck with boring amvs lmao
@@wastedxalien7249 untrue, scru didn’t really do jack shit. Also it’s not even about the amv’s its the content within the song, i can stream that on spotify all day.
this is a needed response ty mari
Been thinking about exactly what you said at the end, for quite some time now and agree.
Let it be known all of this nerd control related beef & the disses is cause Jamar could’ve just told Dizzy over the phone how he feels but wants to act like a snake & now so many people in the community are beefing just goes to show Jamar is a troll also I agree I’m tired of hearing that ugly sounding Nerd control beat it’s overused now
Mari really talked on this but like 80% of the community already hates scru or atleast the shit he says. Chasing drama no matter how small a problem is and always saying the same stuff about anime rap not being real hip hop, so let mari cook him and he can go back to his "real hip hop"
The realest reactor 🐐
Scru fr is a bad influence on the community. Like what he did was good in the beginning. He was learning about the game in early 2020 and was super respectful and actually learning about anime. Then he turned into a self righteous figure of the scene trying to differentiate the “rapping as an anime character” from “anime inspired “real rap”” then shit he did with Jeesh was more embarrassing than anything, same with slick and anyone else he’s trying to force out of the “anime rap” label. He’s a good rapper and a funny reactor no doubt, I hope his diss track tomorrow doesn’t suck
Here we go again
I ain't gonna lie, scru was the one who got my attention to the anime rap scene. Honestly I find myself listening to more artists from this scene than any other at this point. So I'm glad I got here lol, however some stuff he says is corny. I'm fine if some of ya'll had to diss track eachother. But the whole jamar rose thing was lame and didn't need hype.
You and I are both exhausted of all this.......Mari had some truth in this🧁🧁✨✨
Purely out of selfish satisfaction I am very glad for this track cause to say it how it is, Scru been kinda pissin me off
But again I am but a mere nobody
although I do wanna use the hashtag here I will not as he also said to use it to fake reactors and the bear is pretty genuine even if he holds himself out of the situation.
That's fine as long as one is honest about it
Yeah Imma need some popcorn for whatever the hell happens next
If I'm getting this correct, nerdcore is 30 years old? As a fan, or at least someone who wants to call himself one, I'd really like to know more about this because I really thought it was a younger subgenre. Can anyone shed some light?
There's documentaries and Wikipedia pages and stuff available online for free
@@Shwabados Oh word? Lemme go educate myself then 🙏
I really recommend MC Frontalot, and Dr.Awkward
Coming back to this after the Knox Hill battle 😂
Ya'll should hop on dizzys stream "Nerdcore rap?? lol". He speaks on thsi topic and has a converstaion with jamar on it too. Great reaction shwab! 💯
idk whats going on but i like the music that keeps coming out
You're right on how this argument is not really that logical because it's good to weigh your opinions especially if your opinions come from the rap world if like somebody's anime rapper and somebody like a quote unquote real rapper that doesn't make a difference rap is rap hip hop is hip hop it doesn't matter what you're wrapping about it matters if you can spit bars
At 3:00 I thought he was gonna say "hold on let me check my DMs"
Lol, me too
Might as well grab popcorn.
Mari my favorite now
Scru has been a little corny projecting his view of what IS Hiphop but I didn’t expect this.
I get it though. I just expected somebody to just sit down with him and be like, “You know Hip Hop is a BIG genre and what you’re describing as Hip Hop is just a sub genre of hip hop? Not all of hip hop is battle rap.”
He did ask for people to speak with their pen. Maybe he'll finally listen because people have been trying to have that talk with him since the beginning
“Not all of hip hop is battle rap” FR
I wouldn’t go so far to say that scru isn’t a real rapper, but I’m so glad somebody called him out on his bs.
He said 🫵🏾🙂 lmao
Mari is cool, very cool, much respect
How to fix a situation: spit fax
Honestly, its the best policy
Sheeeshhh. Guess we gone see if scru responds huh? U got 48 hours 😂🤣
intersting how some call anime rap not real rap ... well yah its based off of anime but funny how these "anime rapper" still find a way to make the music relatable , more so than alot of modern rap and hip hop. just because an artist isnt rapping about your history does not make it invalid content . i find it more skill full for a writer to write rap or hip hop in a form that can reach multiple cultures / communities like most of yall do !
Yknow, I'm pretty sure the closest we've had to real beef in nerdcore was Ty and Khan. Now mind you, I am newer to this community but still. But seriously I used to like Scru but he took a turn at some point. Rewatching this makes me feel nostalgic for the Dax days
Before Shwab said lemme check my camera, I thought he was to about to say lemme check my dms ☠
Jamar dropped the bomb
Everyone else is upscaling the explosion
the les I say the better
Completely unrelated to this vid, Shwab looking like a college professor
I don’t know how to feel about scru, I mainly watch his reaction videos for nerdcore artists and then he made a second channel for them which is fine to do if he reacted to all nerdcore on their. I don’t know why rustage reactions are on his main channel and not the lit channel which has all the other nerdcore artists but that’s up to him. Then the next thing that scru has upset me with is that he isn’t paying attention to the songs or the artists as much as I see other reactors do. A very good example is the cross guild song because he listened to the whole song thinking it was a Connor quest song with a couple lines from rustage and shwabadi on the chorus until the end of the song when it showed who was rapping each character then only rewinded it a bit to realize that rustage rapped buggy and then was like “I’ll have to give it a second listen to figure out who rapped where” the first time I listened to cross guild it took me a couple of minutes and a lot of backing up to figure out who had who, except rustage that was easy. To me it feels like scru enjoys only rustages songs enough to keep him on the main channel and then gives half hearted reactions to the rest of nerdcore, I am saying all this without seeing scru’a reaction to this song but I might just unsubscribe from scru’s channel
Brah, I get what 954 was saying in with it. Way too many responses to Jamar. My only thing is why would you do a track with a person then turn around and call them a Con? 🤣😅.
I could be wrong, but ever since it dropped/put together, scru has been getting real weird about anime rap not being real rap and has been trying to instigate a lot of shit. Not that it wasn't there from time to time before, but it's been increasing a lot in consistency. It feels like every other reaction from him these days has been "real hip hop this" "Rap needs this this and that." Which is fine from an industry perspective I guess with his background, but this community of rap isn't industry, and he doesn't seem to understand that.
TLDR; Since the track dropped, Scru has been trying too hard to push his brand of rap on a community that isn't about what he deems is correct and Mari got sick of it.
1:24🔥
Oh boy…
Can someone explain what is happening with the Nerd control and stuff? I have no idea what's happening actually
Dizzy owed Jamar Rose a verse on a song, but he never gave it to him. So instead of just talking to him over the phone or something, Jamar Rose made a diss track called "Nerd Control" calling him out.
In this song, he calls out Dizzy a bunch as the diss track is about him specifically but he also called out Mix Williams and Mari.
However near the end of the song he calls out other Nerdcore artists. However, All he did was list off names like DPS, FabvL, Shwabadi and more, one after the other and claim he was better than them. That's literally it, that's all he did.
but a bunch of people started making responses to it and blowing it way out of portions. Scru Face Jean especially hyped the hell out of it. However, claiming you're better than someone is just normal rapper stuff.
So the whole thing is just pointless drama over a single verse
@@felix3745 thanks for the explanation! Yeah so that's basic RUclips drama ig, I'm just gonna ignore it and enjoy the music lol
Off topic but this new RUclips format is a lil weird maybe it’s just me
Anime rap is like the demoknight TF2
Feel like, except for the beginning part, everything he was talkin about was towards Scru
Okay, maybe I'm just a bit fried today...but why is Ty Wild on the baby !?
I missed out on all of this someone fill me in
The only people that actually needed to respond to jamar was dizzy mir and mix
Mir not a fraud but everything else is great
Yeah I feel like Mir caught a stray
@@Jedislayer88 probably not on purpose lol
I thought about doing a response, but mari literally said everything i was thinking, and better then i ever could RN tbh xP lmao.
Isn’t this like the third controversy this week alone?
Can someone explain to me the history of peso Pete clones
You know peso’s energy right? The unorthodox and wild style he has when he raps? Yeah people basically watered that down to match what they can do and their strengths. Taking what they can use and leaving the soul of it behind. That’s basically it.
@@thehomiedq1620 who does that?
@@GameGuy667 a lot of people actually. He’s the one who created the unorthodox flows that land on your ear in both a weird but fire way. I don’t really know how else to describe it but it’s what makes peso him.
I used to enjoy watching Scru's videos but I stopped when he kept trying to gatekeep the nerdcore community with, as like plenty of others mentioned, saying that nerdcore isn't real hip hop. I remember back when he reacted to DPS's Diamond is Unbreakable rap that he wanted more direct call outs or something. Like why.
I loved everything he said, I just wish the song were better musically. Maybe it's just not my style, but fuck yeah he spoke nothing but facts
Im just glad someones calling him out. Hes been saying and doing hypocritical shit for ages, which is ironic cuz hes always been like 'people in hiphop be extremely close minded about anime rap and youtube rap', but all hes been saying is close minded af, talking about how this is 'real' rap and people gotta respond if they called out, how 'we don't wanna hear another luffy verse' and how you gotta respect both sides but he keeps tryna push his own idea onto the entire scene
He's done nothing but prove he doesn't understand nor respect the nerdcore side of hiphop and what its actually about. There ain't nothing nerdy or anime about two dudes battle rapping over imagined insults, he can keep tryna push his view on it all he wants, it don't make it true
Did Scru really say anime rap is not real rap? Cause that’s a WILD thing to say, he sounds like every elitist musician that always go “you just don’t understand the true art of ___ because you are simply uneducated.”
(I’m gonna steal a word he loves to use a lot) Let people enjoy things *GOOFY* !
I was a huge fan of scru when he was mainly in the youtube scene but i haven liked a single one of his anime songs tbh, he seems to gaslight and instigate this argument
Plain and simple , he doesn't get Anime Rap.
Mari spittin facts tho. But personally I wanna see shwab, rustage, Mari, fabvl, DPS, Dizzy and ty go head to head. off some we friends but let's see who can out rap who
I wonder how long it’ll be before Scru writes a diss track and acts like he killed Nerdcore or some stupid shit like that and his fanbase believes it? A week? Two weeks? We all know how much dude loves the drama and wants the spotlight on him.
Why are people so mad, that we here doing our own thing like the fuck. Mari said it best " when the Hate permeate, is when you really happy" fuck trying to be a Hater to the Nerdcore community like seriously. We enjoy it , is why peopl Ham and Shwab drop albums and it does well.
Anime Rap/Hip Hop is its own genuine form of music.
It differs greatly to normal Rap and Hip Hop due to it having a defined Character or Anime as its source and subject matter (usually an Anime or Character that we as listeners are very familiar with)
This makes a song connect with its audience even if it is not musically or lyrically very good.
Normal rap or hip hop usually requires a known artist or a decent relatable lyrics to be appreciated by its audiences but this genre also has a ton of wannabes desperate to be relevant in the industry and doing stupid things to become so.
If you want to be relevant in the Anime Rap genre you just create content and upload.
If its good content then you get views.
If its bad you dont.
Please dont bring real world crap into this universe that at its heart is 100% fictitious but in our hearts is 100% real and thriving.
On i side not i thought Mari's response was on point.