My boots always lightened back to the original color after about 4 days to a week depending on how much I wore them after the Saphir treatment. They won't stay that dark. Good video👍🏻
I use this on everything expensive & cheap, cost maybe a dollar to treat a pair of shoes, a pot easy lasts 15-20 pairs. If I consider the shoes good enough to wear then they are good enough to be looked after correctly
For oil tanned leathers you should use Saphir Medaille Dior Oiled Leather with Neatsfoot oil. It won't change the texture by putting waxes in it. They make it in a neutral if you want to keep your patina. I am of the opinion you should only use Saphir Renovateur on leathers that are waxed and shined like the black calfskin in the video.
All the Saphir Medaille d'Or Renovateur gets shipped to the US or sold in Continental Europe. We can't get it in the UK, without importing it ourselves, at considerable extra expense. All we can get is the, non-Medaille d'Or, cheaper version from Saphir. The main difference, I've read, is it contains less mink oil. It still made a great job of finishing off some burgandy Chromexcel boots that I bought for renovating, after all the videos I've watched. They were thirsty and drank up 2 coats of Saphir Greasy Leather Cream, that I gave them, in no time. I thought that was going to darken them a bit and mask the minor slice-scuffs on the toes but they lightened up again the very next day and the slice marks reappeared. They were minor but a tiny bit deep. The Renovateur darkened the boots, slightly (in a good way), but this time the effect remained the next day. It made the little cut scuffs almost completely disappear (masked them really well by darkening the exposed, lighter, leather) and it really made the colour pop! I decided on a good brush-buffing after removing it, after 3 minutes, with a chamois (or you could use a clean cloth), like the instructions tell you to do, before you decide whether you want to buff them to a healthy looking sheen, or not (I wouldn't call it a shine). You can choose to do it after cleaning the Renovateur off, depending on the level of sheen that you want. If you had just stopped after wiping it off, vigorously, with a chammy, microfibre, or old t-shirt, like the instructions say, you wouldn't have had the excessive shine that you had a slight problem with, by skipping that stage and going straight to the brush. You don't actually HAVE to brush them. Although, I chose to. I'm pretty sure there's a little emulsified beeswax in it. It's never going to give Chromexcel a mirror-like shine, as you say. It just made my boots look very like another, brand new, pair of Chromexcel boots that I'd recently bought, giving them a 'just out of the box', looking, sheen. I was really happy with how they turned out. I sanitised the inside with a couple of doses of rubbing alcohol, too. With new laces, insoles and heel units they've cost me about £95 for boots that were, originally, $295 RRP in the US, back in about 2010. Here's some more interesting/ boring stuff because I have time but, obviously, you can sod off and 'TLDR' it, if you want. Wolverine have no distribution in the UK and, probably because I am relatively new to this interest/ hobby, my current grail boots are the Cordovan No.8 Wolverine 1000 Mile, seen above. As tax makes them extortionate to order from abroad and they practically never come up on eBay, in my size, I did a kind of thing I've seen on the watch forum that I follow, where there's a thread called 'I like that, so I bought this' where people show the watches they bought because, for whatever reason (usually financial) they weren't able to attain the watch that they really want. So I searched for Chromexcel boots and found something in burgundy, I liked the look of a lot. This is where (I think) it gets interesting. I'll cut to the chase and say: they're by Ugg. 'Ha ha', I hear you say but hear me out. They're Goodyear welted and have a label inside that says 'Made In The USA For Ugg'. So they're not ACTUALLY Uggs, other than that they have Ugg stamped on the tongue and were bought, and then sold by, that company. They're called Ugg 'Harrisburg' boots and there is very little about them on the Internet but, with a little Google-Fu, I found out that they were made by the Addison Shoe Company in Wynne, Arkansas, which was open from 1953 and made boots, mostly, for military contracts and 'other labels'. Sadly closing in 2007 due to their orders drying up. Presumably, as the military cut costs by sourcing cheaper made boots, elsewhere. So now I own, both, Wolverine 1000 Mile, lookalike and made alike, boots AND the most un-Ugglike boots, ever to have been sold under the banner of Ugg. They're looking great and I'm happy with that. Cheers if you managed to read this far and you have a great day, too!
Saphir has a newer product for oil-based leathers like CXL or S.B. Foot. It’s called “Oiled Leather Cream”. It’s neatsfoot oil based like Bick4. It works pretty good and leaves a matte shine
I have 5 high end boots from RM Williams, Gaziano & Girling, and John Lobb... and I use EXCLUSIVELY Saphir product including Renovateur ... on my one suede boot, I use the Renovateur spray designed for suede.
It’s clear he doesn’t understand the purpose of the product and keeps focusing on “shine”. Totally irrelevant byproduct. It’s about reconditioning and rehydrating the leather. Smoothing out the deep creases on the camp to rolling wrinkles. No one who knows anything about shoes would put this on their shoes and say “done”. Also, why work boots? Why keep framing saphir as a “boot” product? Lol
Renovateur is my go to. On my Iron Rangers, it does appear to darken after applying, but they lighten back up after wearing. If you don't want the shine, brush minimally, rub the boots with your hands and the shine will tame down.
I ruined my copper rough and toughs by not researching. Red wing recommends the all natural conditioner for it and I went ahead and did it. Darkens it almost to the amber. Pretty annoyed but they still look good, just wish I could get that nice patina in the copper shade. Just tried the renovateur with macadamia oil and didn’t darken it any more than what it already was.
@@Ryan-ii9rx That's great you can ruin something but it still looks good. Truly though, I think I know what you mean. Drastically changed but still pretty ok. Maybe try one of the instructional videos that are out there for fixing overconditioned boots. I can't remember the method but they're out there. It might help you lighten up the top 0.5mm - 1mm deep, visible layer of the leather and help them to look a bit more like you remember them. Or go with a one-of detergent immersion, scrub, thorough rinse, room temperature dry for a couple of days and then neatsfoot oil or Bick 4 which is good for not darkening stuff.
Great review 👍. If you don't want to darken the leather of your shoes/boots, just get the shoecream from Red Wing. I use it on my brown boots/shoes. It's a neutral shoecream with neatsfoot oil. Great product.
Thanks, this was exactly my question. I got new redwings in “copper” and I really don’t want to lose that look. It seems like no matter what color you get they all end up dark brown.
Just a heads-up: none of your before and after ogotos are actually before and after. Thay are left and right. I would have much rather seen the same shoe's before and after
How long do you put the cream on? Do you brush it later? And how can I make it even more shiny? Do you recommend wax polish? I'm. New to boots and want to use this on black smooth leather.
Thanks for the info! Just diving into Saphir as a product line so this was some good info. Just started experimenting with the renovateur today. To maintain more of a matte look, I tend to lead towards either Obenauf's Heavy LP, or Huberd's Shoe Grease, depending on how heavy of a gauge the leather is.
This may be a stupid question and I'm not a shoe shiner. But could this be applied to leather car seats. I have a family member with an expensive car with really nice leather seats, and I'm not sure if this would be a waste on the seats.
great question---I'm not entirely sure. I know it would do a good job conditioning the leather, but Saphir also leaves some oily and waxy residue, so it might stain clothes when you sit down on seats. I'd do a quick search to see if there's a specific conditioner that doesn't leave a residue. But I bet you could use this and then just really thoroughly wipe it off about 24 hrs later
I know I’m a bit late to this party, but don’t use it on car seats. Most car seats have a coating on top of the leather to help with wear and damage from UV light. Ford King Ranch trucks are one of the exceptions to this. Check out Colourlock for some great car leather care products.
Why do you compare price of whole jar of Renovateur to a price of cheep boots? You don't use a whole jar, you use small scoop, and that small scoop can really make cheap boots look three times their price. I've used renovator on my cheap bit neglected daily boots and it's just amazing how they look after, definitely worth the price
The Saphir Renovateur BootSpy SHOULD have reviewed is the one that is NOT Mink Oil based. The Macadamia Nut version really saves color, something Mink Oil doesn't AND it's actually more sustainable, as the fur industry is dying. (I know the cost difference is pretty high from Mink Oil).
Great video! Thank you for the comparisons. Quick question, what does Renovateur smell like? I heard it smells like lotion but mine smells more chemical-ish. I got it on Amazon.
I'd say it definitely has a chemical smell. I doubt you got a fake or anything like that. It's not super strong, but it's definitely noticable, and I wouldn't say it's too much like lotion
Just got this stuff for my boots. I got red wings in “copper” and I don’t want to lose the look and darken the leather too much. I’m hopeful this will work.
@@remb9614 yeah I ended up buying the sapphire napa & saphir leather cream for my 1 month old copper rough & toughs. Bear in mind, I wear them everyday in my tire shop. The 1 coat of Napa didn’t change them at all, but I ended up putting 3 coats of the leather cream on top & that made it about 1 shade darker..they came out really good & subtle.
Used it on my Iron Rangers and it didn't change the color of the boots at all, however, they became a bit shinier, which I didn't want at first but alao didn't mind that much Funny that I've been searching the net for a week or so to figure out which conditioner wouldn't change the color of my boot while the renovateur was sitting in a box of Saphir stuff my girlfriend gifted to me last year. Anyway, I still went out and bought Red Wing leather cream, protector and cleaner set. Gonna try that out in a few weeks
Hi, great video! Btw I just got a pair of boots but there is too much screech on them everytime I move, mostly because the laces are made out of leather too, do you know if putting a conditioner like this on them will help to reduce/eliminate the noise or got any other tip?
@@BootSpy Thanks! Would you recommend using Saphir Renovateur on full grain leather jackets? Mine's a Norton Mark 1, brown, and I really want to hydrate the jacket a bit. What is your opinion? The point is, I'm looking for a leather conditioner mainly for my leather jacket, and this conditioner seems to be great for that. Btw, liked and subscribed with notifs turned on! P.S. The boots are legendary!
@@stalkerno.3140 awesome dude, thank you for that! Saphir would do well, though it may add a bit more shine than you want. I would personally use Venetian leather balm. It's on par with Saphir in terms of conditioning and weather protection (not much, but a little, and definitely better than Lexol or Bick 4), but it doesn't have the shine.
As far as I know, there's no difference. I think some brands might have two different products with different effects, but I've always considered leather creams part of the broader spectrum of leather conditioners
It really depends on the brand. Shoe care companies name their products so they can stand out so "conditioner" and "cream" get tossed around pretty liberally BUT conditioners are supposed to prioritize conditioning and are free of waxes, solvents, and pigments. Creams are where you are supposed to find your waxes, solvents, and pigments. Creams are more of a maintenance product whereas conditioners are for your deep cleaning days (where you sit and strip of old waxes and use soaps like saddle soap that can dry out the leather) or if the leather has been neglected. Creams have just enough conditioner to nourish and just enough waxes to protect. The solvents are to help the waxes and conditioning agents penetrate and also help with a little cleaning. The pigments are to restore any fading colors. Hope that helps.
To tl;dr the above fantastic explanation for those on a time budget: A Leather **Cream** is to hold you over until you basically *shampoo and condition* your leather with your *saddle soap and conditioners*
You can definitely use this on white leather! It's funny, I was going to also test it on my wife's white boot but I decided not too... now I wish I did! Thank you so much for watching---I really appreciate it.
Thursday themselves don't recommend anything other than the occasional cleaning. That said, I own that exact pair myself and plan to try a neutral Saphir Rénovateur Suède spray (for science). I can tell you from experience that you should never use a mink oil cream product on them, as it'll turn them to an even chocolate brown colour.
I think this would work well on Common Projects. I don't think the shine will show through too much on white (assuming you have white). Either way, the shine only lasts a bit
I would add Saphir Oiled Leather cream to this as well. That is the product that is specifically designed for oil tanned leather (does not have wax, at least for the beaute du cuir version).
I've got French heritage and they'd be ashamed of me for my pronunciation. I'll pronounce it in French here to make it up to you: Renovateur. Thank you so much for watching!! I really appreciate it!
I agree--I would probably use Venetian, but I'm glad I tried it out. And I think it has its place. I'll use Saphir over Venetian for my Chromexcel (at least while I have it on hand...that said, I likely won't buy it again)
I debated whether to go with the French pronunciation or not... Ultimately I felt it'd make me look like an idiot, so I skipped it. I'll take some Rosetta Stone classes and update this review when my french is tres bon.
Saphir is seriously over priced. I mean outrageously over priced when compared to how much $$$ per ounce your paying. It's not going to preform 10xs better just because it costs 10xs more 🤦🏼♂️ Have you Ever Tried Black Rock Leather N Rich? Not sure if it darkens the boot any. I've only used it on Black Boots. But it does apply really nicely and leaves boots feeling soft and supple.
My boots always lightened back to the original color after about 4 days to a week depending on how much I wore them after the Saphir treatment. They won't stay that dark. Good video👍🏻
I use this on everything expensive & cheap, cost maybe a dollar to treat a pair of shoes, a pot easy lasts 15-20 pairs. If I consider the shoes good enough to wear then they are good enough to be looked after correctly
Exactly.. He acts as if he's gonna use the entire jar on one pair or shoes😂
I absolutely love this take and couldn’t agree more.
A little bit goes a long way.
For oil tanned leathers you should use Saphir Medaille Dior Oiled Leather with Neatsfoot oil. It won't change the texture by putting waxes in it. They make it in a neutral if you want to keep your patina. I am of the opinion you should only use Saphir Renovateur on leathers that are waxed and shined like the black calfskin in the video.
All the Saphir Medaille d'Or Renovateur gets shipped to the US or sold in Continental Europe. We can't get it in the UK, without importing it ourselves, at considerable extra expense. All we can get is the, non-Medaille d'Or, cheaper version from Saphir. The main difference, I've read, is it contains less mink oil. It still made a great job of finishing off some burgandy Chromexcel boots that I bought for renovating, after all the videos I've watched.
They were thirsty and drank up 2 coats of Saphir Greasy Leather Cream, that I gave them, in no time. I thought that was going to darken them a bit and mask the minor slice-scuffs on the toes but they lightened up again the very next day and the slice marks reappeared. They were minor but a tiny bit deep. The Renovateur darkened the boots, slightly (in a good way), but this time the effect remained the next day. It made the little cut scuffs almost completely disappear (masked them really well by darkening the exposed, lighter, leather) and it really made the colour pop! I decided on a good brush-buffing after removing it, after 3 minutes, with a chamois (or you could use a clean cloth), like the instructions tell you to do, before you decide whether you want to buff them to a healthy looking sheen, or not (I wouldn't call it a shine). You can choose to do it after cleaning the Renovateur off, depending on the level of sheen that you want. If you had just stopped after wiping it off, vigorously, with a chammy, microfibre, or old t-shirt, like the instructions say, you wouldn't have had the excessive shine that you had a slight problem with, by skipping that stage and going straight to the brush. You don't actually HAVE to brush them. Although, I chose to.
I'm pretty sure there's a little emulsified beeswax in it. It's never going to give Chromexcel a mirror-like shine, as you say. It just made my boots look very like another, brand new, pair of Chromexcel boots that I'd recently bought, giving them a 'just out of the box', looking, sheen.
I was really happy with how they turned out. I sanitised the inside with a couple of doses of rubbing alcohol, too. With new laces, insoles and heel units they've cost me about £95 for boots that were, originally, $295 RRP in the US, back in about 2010.
Here's some more interesting/ boring stuff because I have time but, obviously, you can sod off and 'TLDR' it, if you want.
Wolverine have no distribution in the UK and, probably because I am relatively new to this interest/ hobby, my current grail boots are the Cordovan No.8 Wolverine 1000 Mile, seen above. As tax makes them extortionate to order from abroad and they practically never come up on eBay, in my size, I did a kind of thing I've seen on the watch forum that I follow, where there's a thread called 'I like that, so I bought this' where people show the watches they bought because, for whatever reason (usually financial) they weren't able to attain the watch that they really want. So I searched for Chromexcel boots and found something in burgundy, I liked the look of a lot. This is where (I think) it gets interesting.
I'll cut to the chase and say: they're by Ugg. 'Ha ha', I hear you say but hear me out. They're Goodyear welted and have a label inside that says 'Made In The USA For Ugg'. So they're not ACTUALLY Uggs, other than that they have Ugg stamped on the tongue and were bought, and then sold by, that company.
They're called Ugg 'Harrisburg' boots and there is very little about them on the Internet but, with a little Google-Fu, I found out that they were made by the Addison Shoe Company in Wynne, Arkansas, which was open from 1953 and made boots, mostly, for military contracts and 'other labels'. Sadly closing in 2007 due to their orders drying up. Presumably, as the military cut costs by sourcing cheaper made boots, elsewhere.
So now I own, both, Wolverine 1000 Mile, lookalike and made alike, boots AND the most un-Ugglike boots, ever to have been sold under the banner of Ugg. They're looking great and I'm happy with that.
Cheers if you managed to read this far and you have a great day, too!
Well said.
Saphir has a newer product for oil-based leathers like CXL or S.B. Foot. It’s called “Oiled Leather Cream”. It’s neatsfoot oil based like Bick4. It works pretty good and leaves a matte shine
I have 5 high end boots from RM Williams, Gaziano & Girling, and John Lobb... and I use EXCLUSIVELY Saphir product including Renovateur ... on my one suede boot, I use the Renovateur spray designed for suede.
Nice line up of boots there, RMs love Renovateur
Great Video. Thanks for the comparison in order to see the color changes.
It’s clear he doesn’t understand the purpose of the product and keeps focusing on “shine”. Totally irrelevant byproduct. It’s about reconditioning and rehydrating the leather. Smoothing out the deep creases on the camp to rolling wrinkles. No one who knows anything about shoes would put this on their shoes and say “done”. Also, why work boots? Why keep framing saphir as a “boot” product? Lol
Great video, I really enjoyed it. Keep up the great content sir.
Much appreciated!
Thanks, I was wondering what product I could use to prevent leather staining
Renovateur is my go to. On my Iron Rangers, it does appear to darken after applying, but they lighten back up after wearing. If you don't want the shine, brush minimally, rub the boots with your hands and the shine will tame down.
I ruined my copper rough and toughs by not researching. Red wing recommends the all natural conditioner for it and I went ahead and did it. Darkens it almost to the amber. Pretty annoyed but they still look good, just wish I could get that nice patina in the copper shade. Just tried the renovateur with macadamia oil and didn’t darken it any more than what it already was.
@@Ryan-ii9rx That's great you can ruin something but it still looks good. Truly though, I think I know what you mean. Drastically changed but still pretty ok. Maybe try one of the instructional videos that are out there for fixing overconditioned boots. I can't remember the method but they're out there. It might help you lighten up the top 0.5mm - 1mm deep, visible layer of the leather and help them to look a bit more like you remember them. Or go with a one-of detergent immersion, scrub, thorough rinse, room temperature dry for a couple of days and then neatsfoot oil or Bick 4 which is good for not darkening stuff.
Great review 👍. If you don't want to darken the leather of your shoes/boots, just get the shoecream from Red Wing. I use it on my brown boots/shoes. It's a neutral shoecream with neatsfoot oil. Great product.
I'll have to check that out! Thank you for watching!
Thanks, this was exactly my question. I got new redwings in “copper” and I really don’t want to lose that look. It seems like no matter what color you get they all end up dark brown.
Great review!
$25! It’s still expensive here in the UK but I get it for about $15, makes it a reasonable investment especially for my dressier boots.
Just a heads-up: none of your before and after ogotos are actually before and after. Thay are left and right. I would have much rather seen the same shoe's before and after
How long do you put the cream on? Do you brush it later? And how can I make it even more shiny? Do you recommend wax polish?
I'm. New to boots and want to use this on black smooth leather.
Can u use this on new leather hiking boots and use polish on top afterwards ?
Trying it out on a pair of boots that are a little more beaten up would've been a lot more helpful...
Thanks for the info! Just diving into Saphir as a product line so this was some good info. Just started experimenting with the renovateur today. To maintain more of a matte look, I tend to lead towards either Obenauf's Heavy LP, or Huberd's Shoe Grease, depending on how heavy of a gauge the leather is.
I have a cool video I just shot where I compare 10 of the best conditioners.. saphir is definitely a great choice
Loved the video! Learned a lot!
So glad it was helpful!
Great video Mate!
This may be a stupid question and I'm not a shoe shiner. But could this be applied to leather car seats. I have a family member with an expensive car with really nice leather seats, and I'm not sure if this would be a waste on the seats.
great question---I'm not entirely sure. I know it would do a good job conditioning the leather, but Saphir also leaves some oily and waxy residue, so it might stain clothes when you sit down on seats. I'd do a quick search to see if there's a specific conditioner that doesn't leave a residue. But I bet you could use this and then just really thoroughly wipe it off about 24 hrs later
I know I’m a bit late to this party, but don’t use it on car seats. Most car seats have a coating on top of the leather to help with wear and damage from UV light. Ford King Ranch trucks are one of the exceptions to this. Check out Colourlock for some great car leather care products.
Ppl bought their shoes in that dark color and after years of wearing it they have critic on the conditioner that brings back the color
Why do you compare price of whole jar of Renovateur to a price of cheep boots?
You don't use a whole jar, you use small scoop, and that small scoop can really make cheap boots look three times their price. I've used renovator on my cheap bit neglected daily boots and it's just amazing how they look after, definitely worth the price
Can you make a video comparing the color of the shoes after 2 - 3 weeks using Saphir RENOVATEUR with the original color?
The Saphir Renovateur BootSpy SHOULD have reviewed is the one that is NOT Mink Oil based.
The Macadamia Nut version really saves color, something Mink Oil doesn't AND it's actually more sustainable, as the fur industry is dying. (I know the cost difference is pretty high from Mink Oil).
Great video! Thank you for the comparisons. Quick question, what does Renovateur smell like? I heard it smells like lotion but mine smells more chemical-ish. I got it on Amazon.
I'd say it definitely has a chemical smell. I doubt you got a fake or anything like that. It's not super strong, but it's definitely noticable, and I wouldn't say it's too much like lotion
@@BootSpy thank you for the reply n the awesome videos! Subscribed
is it the mink or the neatsfoot base?
Just got this stuff for my boots. I got red wings in “copper” and I don’t want to lose the look and darken the leather too much. I’m hopeful this will work.
How’d it go?
@@MrDro1128 haven’t used it on my iron rangers yet but I did a pair of timberlands and it didn’t change the color at all. Seems like good stuff
@@remb9614 yeah I ended up buying the sapphire napa & saphir leather cream for my 1 month old copper rough & toughs.
Bear in mind, I wear them everyday in my tire shop.
The 1 coat of Napa didn’t change them at all, but I ended up putting 3 coats of the leather cream on top & that made it about 1 shade darker..they came out really good & subtle.
@@MrDro1128 I think I’m going to stick with the creamy products because they seem to darken less than the oils
It was perfect job. How about white Luther shoes?! It does work for it ?!
What would you recommend for the iron ranger rough and toughs? Think its nappa leather.
As they said on RUclips. Will the saphir renovateur damage the shoes?
Used it on my Iron Rangers and it didn't change the color of the boots at all, however, they became a bit shinier, which I didn't want at first but alao didn't mind that much
Funny that I've been searching the net for a week or so to figure out which conditioner wouldn't change the color of my boot while the renovateur was sitting in a box of Saphir stuff my girlfriend gifted to me last year.
Anyway, I still went out and bought Red Wing leather cream, protector and cleaner set. Gonna try that out in a few weeks
Did the boots return to the normal colour and natural finish? How long did it take? Have you tried redwing leather cream neatsfoot oil?
Is Crème Rénovatrice the same thing?
Hi, great video! Btw I just got a pair of boots but there is too much screech on them everytime I move, mostly because the laces are made out of leather too, do you know if putting a conditioner like this on them will help to reduce/eliminate the noise or got any other tip?
Hey! Can someone please tell me exactly what pair of Iron Rangers that is? They're so sweeeeet!
They're the 8111 or Amber Harness. They're the most popular Iron Ranger so you should be able to find them pretty easily.
@@BootSpy Thanks! Would you recommend using Saphir Renovateur on full grain leather jackets? Mine's a Norton Mark 1, brown, and I really want to hydrate the jacket a bit. What is your opinion? The point is, I'm looking for a leather conditioner mainly for my leather jacket, and this conditioner seems to be great for that. Btw, liked and subscribed with notifs turned on! P.S. The boots are legendary!
@@stalkerno.3140 awesome dude, thank you for that! Saphir would do well, though it may add a bit more shine than you want. I would personally use Venetian leather balm. It's on par with Saphir in terms of conditioning and weather protection (not much, but a little, and definitely better than Lexol or Bick 4), but it doesn't have the shine.
@@BootSpy Thank you for the valuable information man, you're a treasure trove of good info, great channel!
I heard conditioning is very important because leather gets dry and it cracks. How much time is needed for that to happen?
Question: what's the difference between a leather conditioner and a leather cream? (I'm not telling a joke, I'm actually asking)
As far as I know, there's no difference. I think some brands might have two different products with different effects, but I've always considered leather creams part of the broader spectrum of leather conditioners
It really depends on the brand. Shoe care companies name their products so they can stand out so "conditioner" and "cream" get tossed around pretty liberally BUT conditioners are supposed to prioritize conditioning and are free of waxes, solvents, and pigments. Creams are where you are supposed to find your waxes, solvents, and pigments. Creams are more of a maintenance product whereas conditioners are for your deep cleaning days (where you sit and strip of old waxes and use soaps like saddle soap that can dry out the leather) or if the leather has been neglected. Creams have just enough conditioner to nourish and just enough waxes to protect. The solvents are to help the waxes and conditioning agents penetrate and also help with a little cleaning. The pigments are to restore any fading colors. Hope that helps.
@@TheGlassToe Great, thank you ✌
To tl;dr the above fantastic explanation for those on a time budget:
A Leather **Cream** is to hold you over until you basically *shampoo and condition* your leather with your *saddle soap and conditioners*
Did your boots return to the original color
I was wondering about this exact thing the other day. Would you test more products from this brand?
I'm looking at their black shoe polish now! We should have that up shortly
I never seen a video using this product on a white leather shoe/boots. Is this not allowed to use on white leather?
You can definitely use this on white leather! It's funny, I was going to also test it on my wife's white boot but I decided not too... now I wish I did! Thank you so much for watching---I really appreciate it.
What do u mean by buff it out?
Just recently picked up some captians, Arizona Adobe, what would you suggest for that texture? The other product you mentioned?
Thursday themselves don't recommend anything other than the occasional cleaning. That said, I own that exact pair myself and plan to try a neutral Saphir Rénovateur Suède spray (for science). I can tell you from experience that you should never use a mink oil cream product on them, as it'll turn them to an even chocolate brown colour.
Do you recommend these for use on Common Projects Achilles Sneakers or will it make the leather to shiny?
I think this would work well on Common Projects. I don't think the shine will show through too much on white (assuming you have white). Either way, the shine only lasts a bit
@@BootSpy , thanks for replying. I have 4 pairs of them including the all whites. I will give it a go 👍
not sure if you already try the Renovateur... but for the CPs Saphir Nappa Balm is much better option since it doesn't contain any waxes.
@@trash3 thanks for the tip. Already bought the renovator but will give this one a try as well.. cheers
Red Wing Leather Cream is amazing for SB Foot tannages.
I would add Saphir Oiled Leather cream to this as well. That is the product that is specifically designed for oil tanned leather (does not have wax, at least for the beaute du cuir version).
What is the difference with Pate de Luxe?
Different functions. Pate de Luxe meant to shine and add color to the shoes. Reno is more to moisturize.
@@Michael-ru2vo thanks!
Great vid. Hopefully I'm not being too picky, but can you pronounce it the French way instead of the English way lol. Thanks for the vid 👍👍
I've got French heritage and they'd be ashamed of me for my pronunciation. I'll pronounce it in French here to make it up to you: Renovateur. Thank you so much for watching!! I really appreciate it!
Good review. Saphir is wonderful stuff. High quality, but way over priced. Bick 4 and Venetian Shoe Cream are the best.
I agree--I would probably use Venetian, but I'm glad I tried it out. And I think it has its place. I'll use Saphir over Venetian for my Chromexcel (at least while I have it on hand...that said, I likely won't buy it again)
In Europe Renovatour is not that expensive, I've got a 50ml jar for 12 bucks, which is comparable to Venetian, as i can see.
I like pure polish way more, it penetrates leather way more and it's cheaper than saphir
U can see from the Edge/sole of the shoe. Those before and after pics are not at the same shoe man sorry.
So, this is going to be THEE most pretentious sounding comment ever, but....it’s pronounced REN-UH-VUH-TORE. It’s not me. They’re French!!!
I debated whether to go with the French pronunciation or not... Ultimately I felt it'd make me look like an idiot, so I skipped it. I'll take some Rosetta Stone classes and update this review when my french is tres bon.
Saphir is seriously over priced. I mean outrageously over priced when compared to how much $$$ per ounce your paying. It's not going to preform 10xs better just because it costs 10xs more 🤦🏼♂️
Have you Ever Tried Black Rock Leather N Rich? Not sure if it darkens the boot any. I've only used it on Black Boots. But it does apply really nicely and leaves boots feeling soft and supple.