Fantastic Video. I appreciate that you talk fast and not wasting time. It is so refreshing to get the info you get in a short amount of time!!! Great information!
thank you for this detailed comparison! I'm getting my first pair of real leather boots in my life and I had no idea what I needed to get to protect them. now I do!
Obenauf’s and Huberd’s shoe grease were mainly designed for protection/utilitarian use. They weren’t originally designed for fashion shoes or casual boots bc they darken and soften a lot, but used VERY sparingly they can provide protection and a satin finish and they are all natural so they wear off and don’t plug the pores of the leather. Bick and Venetian are good, bc they don’t darken, but they have silicones that artificially moisturized and don’t darken, but they are synthetic and end up clogging the pores so nothing else can penetrate them so the leather becomes dry eventually. I use both Obenauf’s and a brand called Pure Polish (not affiliated) for this reason.
there's another leather conditioner that's specifically designed for distressed leather and for leather you wanna leave looking distressed, it's bickmore's distressed leather conditioner and there's another one made by fiebings in the same name, fiebing's distressed leather conditioner. you should look into it
Far and away a fair comparison, I have used all of these and say each shoe conditioning agent to it's purpose. This would have saved me a lot of pain and effort. I do have some things I would like to add. Saphir Renovateur is really only supposed to be for polished leathers. Not natural vegetable tan leather. It is a cleaner with some light conditioning, but isn't really intended to be used without Pommadier Cream Polish or Pate Deluxe. Saphir does amazing when done with that intention. Instead of Venetian Leather Balm, Venetian shoe cream is more like Reneuvateur but it doesn't condition as well for me and darkens compared to the balm. It does have cleaning agents. For something like the veg tan leather you would have been far and away money ahead to have used Saphir Medaille D'or Oiled Leather Cream as a fair comparison(closer to venetian balm) ,you can use Saphir Super Invulner to way up the water and stain resistance too but I think you were looking for one and done here. Some people use Nappa Balm but I find it doesn't penetrate enough but does cause zero color change. If you ever want to test the Saphir Medaille D'or 1925 Oiled Leather Cream in neutral, I'd happily pay for a bottle and ship it to you for the channels sake. You've done a service helping me finally size my 877's. I kept trying to go a half size too small I am ashamed to admit! 😅 So thank you for all the content and I hope to see more coming. 👍👍
Hey man do you have any experience with Saphir Nappa Cream. I'm getting a pair of Idrese Nunos and it's what's somewhat recommended. Although I want a conditioner that's versatile. Maybe to pair with a Creme after I get some nice shoes. Do you have any recommendations?
Top notch Test Review! Thanks! Straight and to the point with proper testing. Color, water repellant, shine, etc. Perfect! Venetian it is for my new Ariat Square Toes.
As a German, I like the brand name „Obenauf“ - basically it means „on top of something“…😀😃😄 E.g: „Das Fett schwimmt oben auf der Suppe.“ „Fat swims on top of the soup.“
Hi, was würdest du empfehlen? Ich arbeite jetzt in Deutschland und weiß nicht, was ich kaufen soll. Ich brauche etwas für meine Lederstiefel. Erdal oder Kiwi will ich nicht, die sind angeblich nicht so gut und Sachen wie Venetian gibt es hier nicht. Es gibt sicher eine gute deutsche Marke für Schuhcremes oder Balsame.
Excellent video William and everyone needs to watch this to get a great idea of what they need for their boots and shoes.... I have a lot of the conditioners you used here and I would have saved a lot of money over the years if I had watched this years ago... LOL.. Great video once again Bill..... Greg...IN
Yes! This should be required viewing for new boot guys. I overly darkened my Copper R&T Blacksmiths with mink oil a few years ago. I still love them, but I wish I had preserved the original color. They look more like amber harness at this point, which is not a bad thing.
Yup. Did that to my IR's too. Just got a pair of 1907's in Copper R&T and looking for a conditioner that won't change the color. I have the Saphir Renovator, but it's too shiny for my taste.
Fiebing's Aussie leather conditioner is best for waterproofing and conditioning both. Leather Honey and Neatsfoot oil work great for restoration and conditioning.
Great video idea. I have found Veg Tanned leather can react very differently from other leathers. My “goto” conditioners for CXL is Venetian Shoe Cream. My “goto” conditioner for roughout leather is Wolverine 1000 Mile oil.
Thanks for your review. I hope you will in the future review Zaino's Z-10 leather conditioner. It seems to have done a good job at restoring my old leather boots. It also seems to have a slight water repellant ability....and does not affect the leather color.
Nice 👍🏼 Review - I subscribed - I use Leather Honey and Nikwax Conditioner/Waterproofer - I’d like to know what you think of Nikwax? FYI, the darker the leather the better imho….
Great video. Leather and honey has a cleaner too. You may want to try vs saddle soap. Need one for the different grains of leather in furniture. Except pu or fake leather, not intrested. Oh, and add leather balm for furniture too. 😊
What would you recommend to help stretch new boots? I have four pairs I bought in Italy, size 46, the biggest I could find. I have a wide foot that is 47-48 so I need to put in work. Any recommendations for boot stretchers is appreciated too. THANKS for the great info
Can you please make a video comparing non-conventional conditioners like jojoba oil, bag balm, Vaseline, hand lotion, and other products that people might have laying around? Just to see what happens?
Thank you for your video. I purchased a new pair of Origin boots and went with the leather honey to condition them. I am finding that the boots are drying out quickly and not repelling water within a few days. Might there be a better choice than leather honey? Or something I should use on top of it?
I need to watch this again and make a matrix with the products I have (Leather Honey and Cobbler's Choice) as to know when to use each, depending on my boots. Looks like I need some Venetian! Surprised Saphir didn't make the top three, as I've read a ton of positive reviews about their polishes and waxes.
I prefer using Huberd's shoe oil, because it goes on and leaves the leather feeling smooth and conditioned, and like obenaufs it darkens leather heavily, but unlike obenaufs it doesnt leavy a sticky residue.
Looks like leather honey is better than I thought. Stayed with RW boot oil so far, will give leather honey a try now. Alas the other conditioners (except Saphir) are not readily available where I live.
I recently bought a pair of RM Williams Craftsman boots and prefer a more matte finish to the shiny dress look. Any suggestions on how to create the matte look while protecting the leather?
Touch decision. I just bought a Alpinestars leather riding jacket. What do you guys suggest. I have some leather honey on the way. Read so many good reviews on it
Which conditioners are recommended for waxed flesh? I have a pair of mp service boots in cinnamon waxed flesh and I need help finding a conditioner that doesn’t darken the lather as much. I basically want to restore them to the original appearance. Please help. I heard smiths leather balm works well for the waxed flesh mp service boot but I’m not sure.
If you see this( I am watching this video 1 year after you posted this video) I know you are a fan of Thursday Boots. I would like to know what you would use if you had a pair of Thursday Boots " white low top sneakers" ? I want something that will treat and waterproof without darkening whit leather.
Skidmore’s Leather Cream is the highest rated leather conditioner on Amazon, and has been the recommended go-to product by Nordstroms, and top leather shops across the nation for decades. Any particular reason why you didn’t review Skidmore’s?
I only heard of one of them, Renovateur, which is a French word that I'd pronounce "renovateur", like "amateur" - not "reonvator", like "elevator". Lol! This demonstration didn't really address my problem. I need a neutral cream to apply to pull-up leather with light stitching (light in colour as well as being fine).
Anyone knows which one is best for stretching boots around the calf area? I just bought the lexol one as recommended by a cobbler online for the Givenchy boots yet I’ve been told by another this conditioner brand is merely commercial
If it didn’t make the water bead it’s a minus there is no way some of these even get a squiggle line with how bad they were. Be honest… if you want water repelling features to your leather care.. mink oil and others would be ATROCIOUS. Straight up “-“ all the way.
Only the soles can be considered veg tan, boots outer leather is chrome tan and these two types of leather are not the same. They will react differently to oils or conditioners. It would of been nice to see this with a few different types of chrome tan leather used in the boot industry.
I'd go by if you have cheap boots then use a cheap mid range conditioner etc and if you go for expensive footwear then use the most expensive conditioner for optimum results
Why is water repellency part of your criteria? That isn't the job of a leather conditioner. Shouldn't that slot/step be reserved for creams, waxes and boot greases/oil? Just let the conditioner do its job it was designed to do. You could make a separate category for a do-all 1 step product I guess 🤷.
I do know that Lexol comes with two bottles and is a 2-step process. Could that maybe have been the reason it didn’t perform so well? I ask because that’s what I’ve been using. Also, I found that with the lexol, after repeating the conditioning process a few more times, it turned my leather bike saddle from brown to black. I guess sometimes less is more. Im interested in finding something for a leather Brooks bike saddle that doesn’t change the color.
You have no idea how much of a nightmare it is to get any information like this in non-American localization. I live in the Netherlands, and basically none of these are available where i live. There's also not a lot of trustworthy information readily available here. ... The search continues.
Fantastic Video. I appreciate that you talk fast and not wasting time. It is so refreshing to get the info you get in a short amount of time!!! Great information!
Perfect video. Browsed the internet for 45 minutes+ before I found this video and this is exactly what I wanted to see. Great work!
thank you for this detailed comparison! I'm getting my first pair of real leather boots in my life and I had no idea what I needed to get to protect them. now I do!
Thank you for reviewing our product!
Wish I could buy your products in Norway
Obenauf’s and Huberd’s shoe grease were mainly designed for protection/utilitarian use. They weren’t originally designed for fashion shoes or casual boots bc they darken and soften a lot, but used VERY sparingly they can provide protection and a satin finish and they are all natural so they wear off and don’t plug the pores of the leather. Bick and Venetian are good, bc they don’t darken, but they have silicones that artificially moisturized and don’t darken, but they are synthetic and end up clogging the pores so nothing else can penetrate them so the leather becomes dry eventually. I use both Obenauf’s and a brand called Pure Polish (not affiliated) for this reason.
Venetian cream has silicone? Where dies it say that?
Does beeswax plug pores as well? Wondering if I should avoid products with it added in
there's another leather conditioner that's specifically designed for distressed leather and for leather you wanna leave looking distressed, it's bickmore's distressed leather conditioner and there's another one made by fiebings in the same name, fiebing's distressed leather conditioner. you should look into it
Great job. Straight to the point.
Great video!! Awesome comparison and super valuable content. Nicely done
One of your most informative videos. Thanks again for your help and making the video. I get a lot of different ideas and which ones work best..
Glad I could help!
Such a well thought and specific video! this is amazing!
This helped so much! I'm getting into making leather products for myself and my wife. Thank you 👍
Far and away a fair comparison, I have used all of these and say each shoe conditioning agent to it's purpose. This would have saved me a lot of pain and effort.
I do have some things I would like to add. Saphir Renovateur is really only supposed to be for polished leathers. Not natural vegetable tan leather. It is a cleaner with some light conditioning, but isn't really intended to be used without Pommadier Cream Polish or Pate Deluxe. Saphir does amazing when done with that intention. Instead of Venetian Leather Balm, Venetian shoe cream is more like Reneuvateur but it doesn't condition as well for me and darkens compared to the balm. It does have cleaning agents.
For something like the veg tan leather you would have been far and away money ahead to have used Saphir Medaille D'or Oiled Leather Cream as a fair comparison(closer to venetian balm) ,you can use Saphir Super Invulner to way up the water and stain resistance too but I think you were looking for one and done here. Some people use Nappa Balm but I find it doesn't penetrate enough but does cause zero color change.
If you ever want to test the Saphir Medaille D'or 1925 Oiled Leather Cream in neutral, I'd happily pay for a bottle and ship it to you for the channels sake.
You've done a service helping me finally size my 877's. I kept trying to go a half size too small I am ashamed to admit! 😅 So thank you for all the content and I hope to see more coming. 👍👍
Hey man do you have any experience with Saphir Nappa Cream. I'm getting a pair of Idrese Nunos and it's what's somewhat recommended. Although I want a conditioner that's versatile. Maybe to pair with a Creme after I get some nice shoes. Do you have any recommendations?
Oh I just realized what you meant by Nappa balm XD
Top notch Test Review! Thanks! Straight and to the point with proper testing. Color, water repellant, shine, etc. Perfect! Venetian it is for my new Ariat Square Toes.
As a German, I like the brand name „Obenauf“ - basically it means „on top of something“…😀😃😄
E.g:
„Das Fett schwimmt oben auf der Suppe.“
„Fat swims on top of the soup.“
Hi, was würdest du empfehlen? Ich arbeite jetzt in Deutschland und weiß nicht, was ich kaufen soll. Ich brauche etwas für meine Lederstiefel. Erdal oder Kiwi will ich nicht, die sind angeblich nicht so gut und Sachen wie Venetian gibt es hier nicht. Es gibt sicher eine gute deutsche Marke für Schuhcremes oder Balsame.
Excellent video William and everyone needs to watch this to get a great idea of what they need for their boots and shoes.... I have a lot of the conditioners you used here and I would have saved a lot of money over the years if I had watched this years ago... LOL.. Great video once again Bill..... Greg...IN
This is really great information! Much appreciated!
Amazing comparison. Great use of the leather coasters.
Yes! This should be required viewing for new boot guys. I overly darkened my Copper R&T Blacksmiths with mink oil a few years ago. I still love them, but I wish I had preserved the original color. They look more like amber harness at this point, which is not a bad thing.
I did the same to my iron rangers lol
Yup. Did that to my IR's too. Just got a pair of 1907's in Copper R&T and looking for a conditioner that won't change the color. I have the Saphir Renovator, but it's too shiny for my taste.
You can get it out easy. I did the same and scrubbed them with a strong brush and soap
Great comparison!!!
@@davidjason1164 saddle soap, or dish soap?
Fiebing's Aussie leather conditioner is best for waterproofing and conditioning both.
Leather Honey and Neatsfoot oil work great for restoration and conditioning.
Great video idea. I have found Veg Tanned leather can react very differently from other leathers.
My “goto” conditioners for CXL is Venetian Shoe Cream. My “goto” conditioner for roughout leather is Wolverine 1000 Mile oil.
Good review!! Can I use Venetian on a thin leather bracelet. Thank you
What about covering scuffs? Any info on that, please and thanks?
Thanks for your review. I hope you will in the future review Zaino's Z-10 leather conditioner. It seems to have done a good job at restoring my old leather boots. It also seems to have a slight water repellant ability....and does not affect the leather color.
Nice 👍🏼 Review - I subscribed - I use Leather Honey and Nikwax Conditioner/Waterproofer - I’d like to know what you think of Nikwax? FYI, the darker the leather the better imho….
I like bicks and redwings product. Always had good results
Useful comparison, thank you.
Thanks for the vid!
hi, thanks for the review! anyway, have you tried Venetian Shoe Cream? is that different from venetian leather balm?
Great review. How to tell if the product has been absorbed or if it evaporated?
Thanks
Great video.
Leather and honey has a cleaner too.
You may want to try vs saddle soap.
Need one for the different grains of leather in furniture.
Except pu or fake leather, not intrested.
Oh, and add leather balm for furniture too. 😊
Huberds for me since 1996 on my White's Smoke Jumpers. Wildland Firefighting, and in the rain in Washington State.
Thank you for your work!
Great content. Thank you.
What would be good for the footbed of leather sandals
Very great video!
What would you recommend to help stretch new boots? I have four pairs I bought in Italy, size 46, the biggest I could find. I have a wide foot that is 47-48 so I need to put in work. Any recommendations for boot stretchers is appreciated too. THANKS for the great info
Can you please make a video comparing non-conventional conditioners like jojoba oil, bag balm, Vaseline, hand lotion, and other products that people might have laying around? Just to see what happens?
Thank you for your video. I purchased a new pair of Origin boots and went with the leather honey to condition them. I am finding that the boots are drying out quickly and not repelling water within a few days. Might there be a better choice than leather honey? Or something I should use on top of it?
Hi, wish you could've said which, if any, are water based verses oil based. But either way liked the info you gave!
Have u tried chamberlaine leather milk ? Whats ur thoughts?
Thoughts on cadilac leather conditioner? They sold it to me at my local cobbler shop
I need to watch this again and make a matrix with the products I have (Leather Honey and Cobbler's Choice) as to know when to use each, depending on my boots. Looks like I need some Venetian!
Surprised Saphir didn't make the top three, as I've read a ton of positive reviews about their polishes and waxes.
I’m about to publish an article version of this that should make it much easier for you. It should be up either Monday or Tuesday
@@BootSpyCouldn't find it!
Same as@@carlosdurazo1329
Work boots used for actual hard work: Obenauf's LP or Oil, Huberd's, or Nor-V-Gen.
I was surprised that "Black Rock" was not included in the products used in conditioning testing for boots. Any thoughts?
I prefer using Huberd's shoe oil, because it goes on and leaves the leather feeling smooth and conditioned, and like obenaufs it darkens leather heavily, but unlike obenaufs it doesnt leavy a sticky residue.
Well im taking your advice on the Leather Honey. Im restoring a 50+ year old walrus bag.
What is a good conditioner for Thurgood mac toes yo keep that red leather
Are Venetian shoe cream and balm pretty much the same?
I read somewhere balm has more wax but also read they’re the same product..
Looks like leather honey is better than I thought.
Stayed with RW boot oil so far, will give leather honey a try now.
Alas the other conditioners (except Saphir) are not readily available where I live.
How does redwing leather cream neatsfoot blend compare?
Im surprised you didnt review Sno-Seal in this video as well
Why Cobbler’s Choice over Venetian Leather Balm or Saphire Renovateur?
I recently bought a pair of RM Williams Craftsman boots and prefer a more matte finish to the shiny dress look. Any suggestions on how to create the matte look while protecting the leather?
What is the difference between Venetian Shoe Cream and Venetian Leather Balm
Very curious of it affected the weight of the leather. I dont want to make my boots or shoes heavier
Touch decision. I just bought a Alpinestars leather riding jacket. What do you guys suggest. I have some leather honey on the way. Read so many good reviews on it
Dark jacket good choice! Light brown leather it will darken.
Which conditioners are recommended for waxed flesh? I have a pair of mp service boots in cinnamon waxed flesh and I need help finding a conditioner that doesn’t darken the lather as much. I basically want to restore them to the original appearance. Please help. I heard smiths leather balm works well for the waxed flesh mp service boot but I’m not sure.
If you see this( I am watching this video 1 year after you posted this video) I know you are a fan of Thursday Boots. I would like to know what you would use if you had a pair of Thursday Boots " white low top sneakers" ? I want something that will treat and waterproof without darkening whit leather.
Can i use it on a leather bag? Gueess soo as long as its leather right? Ot they r only meant for boots.. ? Hmmph?
Skidmore’s Leather Cream is the highest rated leather conditioner on Amazon, and has been the recommended go-to product by Nordstroms, and top leather shops across the nation for decades. Any particular reason why you didn’t review Skidmore’s?
I use Renapur
I’m very happy with Leather Honey on my motorcycle leathers.
Try Leather CPR.
I need a conditioner for ostrich full quill boots. Bicks 4 is on it now. Always looks all dried out and no water protection or shine. Help!
I've heard leather absorbs better if warmed up. Silly as it may sound. It may make it absorb better.
Does V. Leather Balm have silicone in it? I want to stay away from silicone on my leather dress shoes.
Neatsfoot oil is the best to treat leather, sealed with lp
I only heard of one of them, Renovateur, which is a French word that I'd pronounce "renovateur", like "amateur" - not "reonvator", like "elevator". Lol!
This demonstration didn't really address my problem. I need a neutral cream to apply to pull-up leather with light stitching (light in colour as well as being fine).
SAPHIR RENOVATOR NR 1 !!!!
Anyone knows which one is best for stretching boots around the calf area? I just bought the lexol one as recommended by a cobbler online for the Givenchy boots yet I’ve been told by another this conditioner brand is merely commercial
If it didn’t make the water bead it’s a minus there is no way some of these even get a squiggle line with how bad they were. Be honest… if you want water repelling features to your leather care.. mink oil and others would be ATROCIOUS. Straight up “-“ all the way.
Only the soles can be considered veg tan, boots outer leather is chrome tan and these two types of leather are not the same. They will react differently to oils or conditioners. It would of been nice to see this with a few different types of chrome tan leather used in the boot industry.
This was great. Thanks
I'd go by if you have cheap boots then use a cheap mid range conditioner etc and if you go for expensive footwear then use the most expensive conditioner for optimum results
I have python snakeskin and Leather Honey- can the two meet up and be friends?
Surprised there is no Chamberlain leather conditioner on this list.. it’s very good stuff doesn’t darken leather like mink oil or some of the others..
Bick 4 penetrates very well
Why is water repellency part of your criteria? That isn't the job of a leather conditioner.
Shouldn't that slot/step be reserved for creams, waxes and boot greases/oil?
Just let the conditioner do its job it was designed to do.
You could make a separate category for a do-all 1 step product I guess 🤷.
Venetian Leather Balm has beeswax in it so it would clog the pores of the leather making your boots hot.
I do know that Lexol comes with two bottles and is a 2-step process. Could that maybe have been the reason it didn’t perform so well? I ask because that’s what I’ve been using. Also, I found that with the lexol, after repeating the conditioning process a few more times, it turned my leather bike saddle from brown to black. I guess sometimes less is more. Im interested in finding something for a leather Brooks bike saddle that doesn’t change the color.
Bicks 4 is the best.
You have no idea how much of a nightmare it is to get any information like this in non-American localization.
I live in the Netherlands, and basically none of these are available where i live. There's also not a lot of trustworthy information readily available here.
...
The search continues.
Talks too much
Lmao😊
I've seen a bunch shoes it looks like a woman would wear have yet to see a decent pair of boots on this channel