I asked Octane, Attach and Gunless all the same question on their streams, 'Whats the most important thing for an AR player?', and they all said "Knowing when to play fast and when to play slow". Alot of the ARs have a pacing issue this year having 1 gear.
I think there's some nuance to this. Agree that BO6 suits Huke's playstyle, generally. The problem is Huke often runs and guns by his lonesome. That always works better at the start of games than at the end of games
@@BreakingPointGG that is a fair shout. I think Optics sub duo gotta figure out their pacing together. I think Kenny needs to play more objective based as well cause he did not get hard point time at all this weekend
I find similarities between snd Cold War faze and bo6 faze. The way they are able to be a man down and yet still find ways to come back is insane. The fact they are a man up, they’re able to section off areas of the map and corner the enemy team. As long as faze tune their hp, and not let teams come back. They will be untouchable.
I was telling friends from the jump that there was no way after pred was able to deal with his personal issues that they wouldn't bring him back. It just didn't make any sense to toss him away and act like he didn't exist. Preds apart of the OpTic fam. All love for huke. I still love him as a player and wish there were better circumstances for him, but there was no way Hector or the team didn't talk it over with him saying this could possibly be a temporary position. I hate that people are trying to say OpTic did him dirty. They brought him in quickly after Preds initial step down and let him show case his skills on BO6. There is no way Huke doesn't get grabbed by a team. Wish him the absolute best. Very happy AG is back, and hopefully, he feels better than ever, and the boys are ready to get it going 🤙
The difference between this event and online was throwing shoulders for information was much much more urilized. Online is a BANGOUT, LAN slows down as usual. Who gets worse when the game slows down? Shottzy/huke, those two were nearly singlehandedly carrying optic in HPs with engagements/kills online, swap to the major and they cant buy a hardpoint win. Real bummer, because although i know optic can adapt to the new style, their ceiling in a game that slows down is much much lower than what it would be if the game stays fast
Granted there was still bangout moments, but it seemed the meta play was shoulder info, get a teammate to chall with you, rinse repeat. Optic wasn't doing that strat from what I saw
They don’t play ahead. Constantly late on rotations, over challing when getting the rotation. They just did too much on the map which makes it hard for the ars
If pred did somehow get back on optic I think Huke should go to Boston. Giant upgrade over purj, I know you’ll lose some of that IGL that purj brings but I think Huke can do that in SND and cammy can in the respawns
Trei DEFINITELY crashed out about spanish cod last year and said “that shit is never gonna work”. Also wtf is “spanish cod” anyway? If spanish cod is fast paced grit fests then does that mean Rokkr play spanish cod?does Hydra play french cod, do Vegas play arabian cod?😂 you either play good cod or bad cod, cut it out.
I know Huke had the best kd at the tournament but some of his plays were frustrating to watch. He challs everything and dies when he needs to stay alive. Against gm8 on skyline, they had p4 rotation, huke on point and he ran off point, died, they got broken, and lost spawns. Yes, Dashy and Kenny were nonexistent but Kd is not the whole story..
They literally lost that hp cuz kenny went 0-16 in the second half and couldn't stop himself from yying at the end and got slapped by renkor as a result. Idk how huke is getting blamed for this lmfao.
Huke was the only one on the team doing anything, he made some bad plays but the good ones far outweigh the bad and when the others are getting straight up turned on the whole event you have to play hero
Cmon I get it but it’s such a minor point in the grand scheme of things. Ant is LITERALLY not making superstar plays like we are used to. Kenny going on 16 death streak causing loss of rotations big gunfights for scrap etc… you can’t point a couple bad p4 holds on Huke.
@@jonnyd10ennis Attach has been better than sib and it’s only hardpoint that he’s been bad in which is the teams pacing issues more than anything with 2 AR’s that wanna do the same thing. Paul is just bad at all 3 gamemodes while on a better team that should make his stats look better, can’t even use the excuse of him being good at SnD like some others to excuse the respawn’s
I think gentlemates is good and doesn't need to make a change. Yes they have had matches were they don't seem very competitive. But for the most part being able to take basically every team they have faced so far to a game 5 is commendable at the very least. From my perspective just looking at matches as a fan. They just need to close out games and they would be probably a top 6 team right away. I genuinely haven't felt like they are bad or need to blow it up. I have only felt like they under perform which speaks to their ceiling (potential) in my mind at least.
I mean tbf the not scrimming falcons is extremely justifiable. Even if you look at the bet365 outright betting markets for winning CDL champs, falcons odds are 500/1 and the next worst is surge at 50/1. They are so far away from the next worst team.
Keep KHHX and Exnid. Pay Pred the bag. Then you just need a big shooter on AR and the team all of a sudden becomes a competitor. Love Clay, but he's always thought outside of the box. Put Parasite on that squads coaching. Potential AR's are huge and the one that sticks out that is available, is Illey. Illey and KHHX. Exnid and Pred. Done
40:41 i think this performance coach talk can wait until later in the year. Faze were legitimately 4 lives on 1 map away from us saying "they have no ice, they can't play on Sunday... Etc" tippable composure from faze for sure, but im not ready to start sating they dramatically looked/sounded more composed this weekend
I asked Octane, Attach and Gunless all the same question on their streams, 'Whats the most important thing for an AR player?', and they all said "Knowing when to play fast and when to play slow". Alot of the ARs have a pacing issue this year having 1 gear.
Lost it when Rab said Lamah is living vicariously through Attach. 100% facts, Attachuracy unders have been feeding families.
Huke’s play style is how you want to play BO6. It’s exactly how faze plays. Run and gun as a team
I think there's some nuance to this. Agree that BO6 suits Huke's playstyle, generally. The problem is Huke often runs and guns by his lonesome. That always works better at the start of games than at the end of games
@@BreakingPointGG that is a fair shout. I think Optics sub duo gotta figure out their pacing together. I think Kenny needs to play more objective based as well cause he did not get hard point time at all this weekend
Gentle mates should stay the course. Everything shouldn't be blow it up all the time. Let a team build chemistry
They should definitely have team chem built by now, but I agree about not blowing it up
That chat is on mars a optic major is definitely wayyy louder 😂
Just EU hype 😂
EU crowd is always making noise
Different kind of noise. More constant. It’s better
Why didn’t they keep huke and dropped Kenny.
I find similarities between snd Cold War faze and bo6 faze. The way they are able to be a man down and yet still find ways to come back is insane. The fact they are a man up, they’re able to section off areas of the map and corner the enemy team. As long as faze tune their hp, and not let teams come back. They will be untouchable.
Top 5 coldest tacrab moments of 2025 “ run the intro “
I was telling friends from the jump that there was no way after pred was able to deal with his personal issues that they wouldn't bring him back. It just didn't make any sense to toss him away and act like he didn't exist. Preds apart of the OpTic fam.
All love for huke. I still love him as a player and wish there were better circumstances for him, but there was no way Hector or the team didn't talk it over with him saying this could possibly be a temporary position.
I hate that people are trying to say OpTic did him dirty. They brought him in quickly after Preds initial step down and let him show case his skills on BO6. There is no way Huke doesn't get grabbed by a team. Wish him the absolute best.
Very happy AG is back, and hopefully, he feels better than ever, and the boys are ready to get it going 🤙
The difference between this event and online was throwing shoulders for information was much much more urilized. Online is a BANGOUT, LAN slows down as usual. Who gets worse when the game slows down? Shottzy/huke, those two were nearly singlehandedly carrying optic in HPs with engagements/kills online, swap to the major and they cant buy a hardpoint win. Real bummer, because although i know optic can adapt to the new style, their ceiling in a game that slows down is much much lower than what it would be if the game stays fast
Granted there was still bangout moments, but it seemed the meta play was shoulder info, get a teammate to chall with you, rinse repeat. Optic wasn't doing that strat from what I saw
Some good commentary @mkwsoxfan
They don’t play ahead. Constantly late on rotations, over challing when getting the rotation. They just did too much on the map which makes it hard for the ars
Gentle mates ❤❤
Washington DC needs a team and a event
If pred did somehow get back on optic I think Huke should go to Boston. Giant upgrade over purj, I know you’ll lose some of that IGL that purj brings but I think Huke can do that in SND and cammy can in the respawns
Bro people need to drop the bring AG thing back like that ship has sailed it's been 2 months and it's still the only thing people want to talk about
Ship has sailed eh?
Thank you Ace Scrap was their best player this weekend
I wonder if everyone saying “Illey for Kenny” has actually watched Illey this year… he’s not been a T5 challengers AR this year
Encourage should be in the cdl. Ideally on Boston, M8, or Cloud9.
Trei DEFINITELY crashed out about spanish cod last year and said “that shit is never gonna work”. Also wtf is “spanish cod” anyway? If spanish cod is fast paced grit fests then does that mean Rokkr play spanish cod?does Hydra play french cod, do Vegas play arabian cod?😂 you either play good cod or bad cod, cut it out.
Scrap is not the villain of the league😂😭 there is no villain in this CDL era they’re all teddy bears. Only true cod villains ever were aches and Killa
It would be Drazah if anyone
Have you heard the "Fck you Drazah" chants at every major? 😂 otherwise agree with u
Parasite was more hated at the time than Killa
I know Huke had the best kd at the tournament but some of his plays were frustrating to watch. He challs everything and dies when he needs to stay alive. Against gm8 on skyline, they had p4 rotation, huke on point and he ran off point, died, they got broken, and lost spawns. Yes, Dashy and Kenny were nonexistent but Kd is not the whole story..
I mean shotzzy was non existent as well
You do know that Kenny has 106 less kills than deaths …
6th worst in the league this season.
And Hukes getting some blame huh?
They literally lost that hp cuz kenny went 0-16 in the second half and couldn't stop himself from yying at the end and got slapped by renkor as a result. Idk how huke is getting blamed for this lmfao.
Huke was the only one on the team doing anything, he made some bad plays but the good ones far outweigh the bad and when the others are getting straight up turned on the whole event you have to play hero
Cmon I get it but it’s such a minor point in the grand scheme of things. Ant is LITERALLY not making superstar plays like we are used to. Kenny going on 16 death streak causing loss of rotations big gunfights for scrap etc… you can’t point a couple bad p4 holds on Huke.
Scraps girl was talking about their kid and their family. Keeks was talking about her only
Falcons gotta at least try Khkx, Exnid, Kiing, Glofrosty
Ace is so faded 😂
He had good takes this show. Gotta tip him 😤
Huke Had his best KD this tournament definitely wasn’t hukes fault that’s on Kenny and dashy
I hope they don't drop Paul he's a guaranteed under online
ace calling out Paulex but also saying attach shouldnt get dropped lmao
Friend cheese
To be fair attach isn’t getting slammed they’ve just got 2 AR’s on a game that currently requires 3 SMG’s
@ so putting up 0.7s and 0.8s isn’t getting twerked on??????? Yall are funny
@@AlwaysEwokthey're getting slammed
@@jonnyd10ennis Attach has been better than sib and it’s only hardpoint that he’s been bad in which is the teams pacing issues more than anything with 2 AR’s that wanna do the same thing. Paul is just bad at all 3 gamemodes while on a better team that should make his stats look better, can’t even use the excuse of him being good at SnD like some others to excuse the respawn’s
I think gentlemates is good and doesn't need to make a change. Yes they have had matches were they don't seem very competitive. But for the most part being able to take basically every team they have faced so far to a game 5 is commendable at the very least. From my perspective just looking at matches as a fan. They just need to close out games and they would be probably a top 6 team right away. I genuinely haven't felt like they are bad or need to blow it up. I have only felt like they under perform which speaks to their ceiling (potential) in my mind at least.
Do FaZe wake up and scrim no one cause they're better than everyone? such a sh*t argument against not scrimming falcons
It feels like same old same old to me until they win another Mano as they always seem to at least win one apart from vanguard?
Imagine a control coach 😂🤣
Faze and thieves should use the money they spend on those extra staffs to host an event.
And if you ask any pro, would they rather be more consistent or win champs, I promise you they taking champs every single day of the week.
Yessssir
1:35:12 Skyz is absolutely not that guy. Skyz has underperformed for quite sometime now
Ohio we got cedar point man why gotta say that... 😢
Besides Illey 1:23:05
I mean tbf the not scrimming falcons is extremely justifiable. Even if you look at the bet365 outright betting markets for winning CDL champs, falcons odds are 500/1 and the next worst is surge at 50/1. They are so far away from the next worst team.
I’d tweak if I saw rab at manny airport
Keep KHHX and Exnid. Pay Pred the bag. Then you just need a big shooter on AR and the team all of a sudden becomes a competitor. Love Clay, but he's always thought outside of the box. Put Parasite on that squads coaching. Potential AR's are huge and the one that sticks out that is available, is Illey. Illey and KHHX. Exnid and Pred. Done
If Ace could stop chewing gum like a pig I could actually enjoy the show for once, ohter than that, good show!
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GM8s - Lunarz - Skyz - Kismet - Lynz
C9 - Sib - Mack - Pred - Illey
Neptune to surge or rokkr
That C9 roster would go insane ngl
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first or something idk
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Ay!!!
40:41 i think this performance coach talk can wait until later in the year. Faze were legitimately 4 lives on 1 map away from us saying "they have no ice, they can't play on Sunday... Etc" tippable composure from faze for sure, but im not ready to start sating they dramatically looked/sounded more composed this weekend
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Illey pred sib kremp