Among the Mosques: A Journey Across Muslim Britain -- Why Prof. Ed Husain is Worried.
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Islam is the fastest-growing faith community in Britain. Domes and minarets are redefining the skylines of towns and cities as mosques become an increasingly prominent feature. Yet while Britain has prided itself on being a global home of cosmopolitanism and modern civilisation, its deep-rooted relationship with Islam is complex, threatened by rising hostility.
There is much media debate about embracing diversity in our communities, but what does integration look like on the ground, in places like Dewsbury, Glasgow, Belfast and London? How are Muslims, young and old, reconciling British values - of individualism, the rule of law, free speech & equality between the sexes - with literalist interpretations of their faith? And how is this tension, away from the public gaze, unfolding inside mosques today?
In this episode of #SWYSI, author & academic Prof. Ed Husain discusses how his new book "Among the Mosques: A Journey Across Muslim Britain" took him into the heart of Britain's Muslim communities in a search for answers.
Travelling the length and breadth of the country, Husain joins men and women in their prayers, conversations, meals etc. He tells their stories here in an open and honest account that brings the daily reality of British Muslim life sharply into focus - a struggle of identity and belonging, caught between tradition and modernity, East and West, revelation and reason.
Ed Husain is an adjunct Professor in the Walsh School of Foreign Service in Georgetown University. He is also a writer and political advisor who has worked with leaders and governments across the world. He has held senior fellowships at think tanks in London and New York, including at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) at the height of the Arab uprisings (2010-2015). While at CFR, his policy innovation memo led to the US-led creation of a Geneva-based global fund to help counter terrorism.
Husain was a senior advisor to former British Prime Minister Tony Blair (2015-2018). From 2018-2021 he completed his doctoral studies on Western philosophy and Islam under the direction of the English philosopher Sir Roger Scruton. He is the author of The Islamist (Penguin, 2007), The House of Islam: A Global History (Bloomsbury, 2018), and Among the Mosques (Bloomsbury, 2021). His writing has been shortlisted for the George Orwell Prize. A regular contributor to the Spectator magazine, he has appeared on the BBC and CNN and has written for the Telegraph, The Times, the New York Times, the Guardian and other publications.
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I don't think any rational person will be surprised by Ed's 'findings'. We are heading for a terrible, terrible future.
@@borisnegrarosa9113 no it isn't . . . What awaits us in the future is infinitely worse, eventually the word "Terrible" itself will become entirely inadequate . . .
They need to go back
We no longer have to dream of Valhalla, we prepare for Ragnarok. ⚡⚡
THEY WILL GO BACK.
Or we Be-heading for a terrible time.
There is a historical reason why Hungary does not want muslim immigrants but are happy to recieve Christian immigrants
Take a lesson from Prince Vlad Dracula
@@cambridgegarden Yes, try cancelling him.
It's foolish to think history can't repeat itself.
@@johnfisher247 Poland has the same attitude .Healthy view of islam and Muslims .
@@johnfisher247 The problem is that the UK does not remember that it was the Barbary pirates who were Muslims who for 300 years attacked and plundered not only those countries bordering the Mediterranean but as far north as the English Channel, Ireland, Scotland and Iceland, with the western coast of England almost being raided at will.
Barbary pirates raided on land as well as at sea. In August 1625 corsairs raided Mount’s Bay, Cornwall, capturing 60 men, women and children and taking them into slavery. They were taken to slave markets where if those captured were from rich families, they would ransomed and held hostage till paid, or if male without money would be routinely castrated and women sold as slaves send wives, some forced to convert to Islam. I understand why Poland and Hungary do not want Islam in their countries because they recall the not so distant past but the UK does not.
The fact there is a "Muslim Britain" is the most depressing thing.
There is no such thing as Muslim Britain. Britain is and always
will be a Christian country
@@chrispennington9652 Hear hear!
Since when?
Frightening!!!
The is LGBT.... Britain also and a black Britain.
This bloke's hope that such fundamentally different cultures could somehow merge is a fantasy. After 1500 years of living side by side the English and the Scots haven't merged into one people - and our beliefs are pretty much identical. He's living in cloud cuckoo land. The European leader who has the only realistic approach to this problem is Viktor Orban of Hungary.
There can be no merging with that ideology. Nor should there be.
Great comment 👍
In the fashionable thinking of liberals, beginning in the late 19th century, the big idea concerning religion, which still hangs on today among sheltered elites, was "ecumenism" -- that all the religions can be reduced to their common denominator, which turns out to be "love they neighbour and enjoy the scenery", as summed up best in the Beatles song, "Imagine".
All evidence to the contrary is stubbornly, yet somehow blithely, ignored.
My thoughts exactly!
Blame the white overr educated middle class nitwits holding "refugees welcome" signs but no common sense.
The West is ashamed for having had empires, Islam is ashamed of having lost theirs. Adunis, Syrian poet and essayist.
I am one Westerner who is definitely not ashamed of his country for having an Empire. Was half the world supposed to have been left in a savage state? No. The world was moving on , materials were needed. We couldn’t wait 500 years or so for the natives to get round to getting it and processing it and marketing it.
I wish the British Empire still existed.
@@timwilkinsongs so do I. The world would be safer and saner.
After Mo died 632 his position was then filled by a series of Caliphs, they continued the expansionist policy of imperialism and colonialism as they spread Islam by the sword. I'll outline the history into Europe, but don't forget the expansionist policy also spread west into North Africa all the way to Morocco, and further East to China. I'll be brief in my outline:
By 668 jihad manifested itself outside the walls of Constantinople
711 Islamic armies invaded Spain
800 years of fighting followed until 1492
The jihad engulfed more nations than the Palestine-bound Crusades (there were 8 of these between 1096 and 1270, less than 200 years, they wanted to establish themselves in the holy land which was formerly Christian)
Far grander jihad continued as Muslims wanted to take and occupy Europe and Islamize it. Large parts of Europe were taken and occupied for centuries, sometimes devastated and some of it Islamized.
Spain
Portugal
France
Italy
Sicily
Austria
Bosnia
Serbia
Croatia
Hungary
Romania
Wallachia
Albania
Moldavia
Bulgaria
Greece
Armenia
Georgia
Poland
Ukraine
Eastern and southern Russia
All Jihad battlefields where Islam conquered or was conquered. Many of those lands were occupied by Muslims, in some cases by Arabs or Moors, in others by Ottoman Turks, usually for hundreds of years.
Spain 800 years
Portugal 600
Greece 500
Sicily 300
Serbia 400
Bulgaria 500
Romania 400
Hungary 150 years - a place particularly ruined/plundered and ravaged and it took 200 years to recover.
Muslims came and occupied a huge part of Europe, the Turks besieged Vienna twice in 1529 and 1683. Their cavalry raided central Europe, riding into Bavaria almost as far as Nuremberg. They fought in Poland and the Ukraine, crushed Hungary, occupied Belgrade and Budapest for hundreds of years.
The Moors and the Arabs took Spain and Portugal, invaded France through the Pyrenees, turned Sicily into an Islamic island, raided Rome, sacked St Peter's and obliged the pope to pay tribute. From their base near St Tropez they raided Switzerland as far as Lake Constance on the German border. The pirates of the Barbary coast raided England, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland and brought back thousands of slaves for the markets of Constantinople (after they had turned it into Istanbul) and North Africa. The Mongols threatened Moscow, occupied the Crimea and became Tatars. The Persians marched into Georgia, so did the Turks, who also occupied Armenia.
Some imagine that the sack of Jerusalem in 1099 was the start of the hostility between Islam and the West, they handily ignore the capture of Jerusalem from the Christians in 638, the invasion of Spain some 70 years later by the Arabs and Moors, and the subsequent 800 year occupation in whole or in part of the Iberian peninsula.
It is interesting that the west has by-and-large forgotten this history, but it hasn't been forgotten by orthodox muslims, those who see the eventual expulsion of the invading force as a shame, and who seek to take back the lands of Al Andalus etc.
It is in quite stark contrast that western Europeans do not celebrate their colonialist past, yet there are significant numbers of those within dar-ul-Islam who consider their colonialism to be a glorious one.
@@RichardEnglander thank you for your history summary.
As a supply teacher I found myself working with a Muslim TA and she was lovely. On the day before the anniversary of 9/11 we were discussing it, and I shared that on that day I was working in a Y6 class predominently Asian boys of 11, there were only a few girls and only three of them white. I was called out the room to be told quietly that has the twin towers had been attacked and there was a huge fire. I was absolutely not to discuss it, which was a moot point because this before the days of mobile phones and ready access to the internet. I was not aware of what was going on, until the evening when the momentous events unfolded. However,the next day I was back in the classroom, and those boys were ecstatic. They loved it. I was unable not to discuss it because they were and I couldn't understand how they could hate so much, and I asked them if they would be happy if I were in that building, being white. I was teaching them all term and we had a reasonable relationship, I won't say they were well behaved as they weren't. But it did open my eyes to the idea that multiculturalism doesn't work. I have no problem working and mixing and actually being friends with Muslims, but at that point I honestly felt that immigration and integration would never work. Sorry if I upset people, but even twenty years later, I am still of that persuasion,
‘Your right to still hold onto that persuasion,
In Reality, it can’t be anything else.
But for now they will continue to whitewash over the Differences, but eventually the True Colours will show through in the End.
I hope I am not here when that happens….
We mustn't be sorry to upset people if what upsets them is something perfectly reasonable like discussing a major current event. I was brought up during the war, and not only was the war frequently discussed, but I wasn't upset by it. I wasn't even upset when the sirens went and bombs began dropping, though perhaps if a thousand pounder had landed within a 100 yards I might have been. I learned early on to take upsetting things in my stride, an experience most modern kids never have and are the worse off for it. It is not good for us to be molycoddled and wrapped in cotton wool, and it is not good for the country.
In our effort to appease Islamic Ideology, we destroy ourselves.
no the pc woke 1% Not the general public as we were never asked
@@dsmith4658 I don't recall the 1% woke being asked either. The danger is, the 99% of the general public are asleep at the wheel, the crash will come. Sadly, Islamic political ideology, is not synonymous with multiculturalism.
@@scotmacc Nor is the new BLM ideological crap.
@@scotmacc have you been to the Gulf countries? The most multicultural places in the world. Wherever there is prosperity, there is multiculturalism. Nothing to do with religion.
@@berhoom2024 Unless of course you are Christian.
Islam and secular western values clash.
They don’t like the lgbtq community that’s for sure!🌈
Islam and secular Eastern values also clash. It's not just the "western" aspect they can't stomach, it's the whole concept of a secular society.
Correct. They're simply incompatible value systems.
No shit.
Islam clashes with any non-islamic values.. Alexander the great devised an efficient military machine to conquer the world, "Mohammed" developed an effective brainwashing machine with terrorism on the side to conquer the world.
No one will 'fix' this problem, the politicians already know about these issues and do nothing out of fear.
As a wise Serbian once said ' multiculturalism works until it doesn't - then all hell breaks loose'.
As a woman I’m horrified at any Muslim gaining a political hold in U.K. Khan is a fine example of how not to be a mayor 🤬
Same here.😠
What is a woman?
And now hamza yousaf, this is def' the decline of Scotland as he hates white people.
I keep asking who's running all this..who's the puppet masters..
Governments are too spineless to react, its much easier to pretend that nothing is wrong and let the children of the future deal with the consequences.
It will not happen in the future, by then Islam will be well established in the uk, particularly in France, and the rest of Western Europe.
Govts have engineered this . This is by design . They are not spineless they are calculated and scheming
@@sbwlearning1372 Agreed, look how far the govt are prepared to go over covid, they have a strong arm when it suits them. I think Islam is just being used to break British culture rather than allowed to take the place over for themselves. There is another group with three centuries invested in this jewel of an island, they are not just going to give it all up.
Totally agree with you Stefan. Ridiculous organisations such as UN and EU hae imposed their "human right" on us. What about our rights which were fought for by our ancestors? As an ESL teacher have taught a variety of Muslim studnts, some of whom have stated Muslims will rule the world by emigrating to countries and having lots of children. There is no doubt any Muslim woman marrying out of their denomination would be ostracised, if not, in the extreme, murdered. The milder forms of Islam can see the benefits of free thought as Ed does but with 40% mosques being deobandi there is obviously quite a considerable cohort who think otherwise.
There will be no children of the future at this rate. It has to end now
"The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them"
That's dope.
That is an amazing quote and so very, very true.
It's like an image from a dark Disney movie Snow White or Pinocchio.
"It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light."
In the past you respected the culture you lived in or visited. If we don’t respect our own culture then how can others
What culture?
Everyone except politicians knows what the problem is.
The politicians perfectly well know what the problem is but are terrified out of their wits at the thought of confronting it.
Politicians have created and engineered this problem
@@sbwlearning1372
Blair may have done but subsequent politicians have been afraid to even mention the elephant in the room for fear of losing political capital, consequently Blairism hangs over this country like a bad odour
Our political class is composed entirely of shills for globalism. They will do nothing to confront this problem, they want this, it has all been planned and orchestrated for decades. The peoples of Europe have been comprehensively betrayed by our own governments.
They do but lack the strength and resolve to tackle it. Whoever permitted the first mosque to be built started the problem.
I think he try’s not offend but it is far worse than he is saying
Mass deportation is the best solution to this problem.
@@royhypnol3735 it's the only solution.
@@royhypnol3735 That will never happen without civil conflict first. This is coming.
In the 50s & 60s Jamaicans made their home here, they spoke English, happily integrated & were grateful. However, some came from countries that don't speak our language, didn't intregrate, took over areas & built their own houses of prayer. Blair opened the flood gates in the 90s to people who hate us, allowed them to have their own laws made their culture more important than our own. Now we're seeing an invasion of mainly young, strong men who hate us & our Govt does nothing, why?
Sure the government are doing something. They hold the door open for them...
Jo Vickers ...........our govt hates us too......remember we are just plebs..........were cash cows to them squanering taxpayers money............stopping paying tax to them is the only way to end the craziness.
But West Indian people are treated no different to those from Pakistan.
West Indians already spoke English in the first place before they came here too,ya ignorant dummy!! hahahahaha
@@mjh5437 And they are rarely adherents to a faith that explicitly forbids them to assimilate.
Hatred for unbelievers is *central* to islam according to the quran and according to muhammad.
This *fact* can't just be dismissed.
We have very real grounds for concern.
It's not hatred for unbelievers, it's hatred for White people which is extreme racism.
Yes: there is plenty of love and brotherhood in the Qur'an, but only among fellow Muslims.
@@limmeyhaze296 Mohamed is described as light skinned
@@limmeyhaze296 It IS indeed hatred of unbelievers. Hatred of white people are another conflict. Sadly, often both thease align in the same people making them doubly motivated.
@@barbeeska and he called Afrians raison heads. So it is not a hatred of whites but a hatred of all they consider to be Christians, as they know Christianity can destroy Islam.
Great points. What gets me is the huge presence of Muslim proselytisers in London. Sure, they have the 'right' to do that in a democracy, but imagine a Christian doing the same in any Muslim-majority/Muslim-governed country...
European nations should link their number of mosques to the number of churches in Saudi Arabia.
I really can't imagine. They don't do minority rights
"All cultures are not the same". THANK YOU!!! Finally, someone from the academy AND from an ethnic background has come out and said it.
He should have said, which is more accurate: "All cultures are not EQUAL'.
@@drno8561 He should have said progressive Western cultures and backward Eastern ones.
Buy a house, buy next door, buy one across the road, using Islamic Banking. Take over the street, take over the neighbourhood, take over the suburb, take over the town, take over the region. That's what is happening and now it can't be stopped. It's inevitable that this country will eventually split completely. An us and them stand-off.
The comments here are fascinating, or the ignorance! ''ethnic background'', we all have one of these. Only 2.5% of the folks in the UK are English or Natives. Ask a geneticist!
@Simon Gardiner Texas?
Multiculturalism does not, and has never, existed. The word itself is an oxymoron. A country has only one culture, or several cultures existing in conflict.
100% agree
Hard to fathom.
Bang on richtea. I was about to make exactly the same point but you beat me to it. Well done.
Multiconflictism would be nearer the mark.
We need a very uncivil culture war. We need to do what we used to do, deport the nutty religious extremists out the the colonies, not invite foreign nutty religious extremists into England. We're going to end up worse than The US soon, as we have 100th of the land and 1/6th the population, with English Natives that can trace their history here back more than a few generations of a rapidly shrinking minority.
A national debate on Islam is needed urgently.
Yeah: the Second Coming of Christ is also needed urgently, but don't hold your breath.
@@DieFlabbergast One is within our power to achieve. It will happen if enough people call for it.
@@DieFlabbergast Various groups have been waiting for that for 2000 years or so...
It will not be much of a debate when one side will be arrested for hate speech as soon as they try to say anything.
@@annemarieforprimeminister8020 Reinforced elections...
It's actually sad that clear, honest, common sense dialogue like this is a gust of fresh air. This should be how this topic's conversation should always be held, but we all know how this conversation would go down on the BBC or The Guardian!
Boris Johnson should have come out with a statement of support for the Batley Teacher and told those protesters that the police will follow up any death threats and charge those responsible.
I don't think Boris has a problem with muslims. His great grandad was a muslim, his first wife Allegra is now married to a muslim and his brother Leo is married to a muslim.
@@katemelton1589 No excuse for Boris, the opposition & unions for not defending the teacher
Thinking Jellyfish Johnson is going to do anything useful on this issue is cloud cuckoo land absurd.
Whoever criticises Islam puts themselves in the firing line. Their head may be next. That's why Islam will in the end win in the UK.
@@richardbritain7435 Basically violence works, which is sadly the message the government has gone along with in regard to this, blm and extinction rebellion and others. Sadly you are right.
Prof Ed is not the only one who's worried.
Haha! You believe the lies of this charlatan? This grifter? This *EX-MUSLIM* ? 🙄
This guy is lying, Muslims in India are not tolerant nor are they pushing for secularism. That's a joke.
We need to be like Hungary and Poland instead of trying to solve an almost insoluble problem.
I watched a video of Victor Orban recently, he was really clear and learned about the Islam problem. He is called a right wing thug by biden, but I believe it is the opposite.
i am afraid it is too late...
Hahaha, whoever could have predicted this would happen? Our political class has been pathetic and ridiculous for decades.
Engineered and designed and implemented by them
By ‘pathetic and ridiculous’ you mean entirely self serving? How unusual…
They're traitors, shills for the "elite". Nothing more.
so why do people vote for them?
@@johnzuma4688 Some get suckered in by the lies, for others it's nothing more than habit. :(
It should be very simple. No religion or idealogy should be beyond criticism or ridicule. If that is unacceptable for anyone then a western democracy is not where they should be. If you pander to one group you are obligated to pander to everyone, this would result in a society completely unsuited to anyone who believes in freedom and democracy.
Religion is the ultimate expression of Fascism
Any religion that persecute those that try to leave should be banned.
@@sbwlearning1372 Can be but doesn't have to.
Well said.
Those of us across the pond that love what the U.K.has given us( traditions, values, history ,law, etc) are very worried about this.
With all due respect, it doesn't take an academic to point out the bleedin' obvious. Heck, even my pet budgie can see what's going on.
Well said…we are in a sad state….
it is so sad because it is so obvious and the outcome is entirely predictable
Emancipate Budgies! Budgies need the vote, and we need a Budgie for P.M.
Your pet budgie is more savvy than a sizeable proportion of the population still arguing a 'religion' founded by a man involved in 88 wars and bloody conflicts, who kept, bartered and sold slaves and executed captives.... is a 'religion of peace'
The working classes still do but the middle classes actively go to classes and self-flagellate about their ‘white supremacy’ and they worship everything foreign.
The notion of multiculturalism is incoherent. For a multicultural country is a country with no distinctive culture of its own, but a country without a culture of its own is not a country at all, it's a jungle of conflicting tribes.
This is such a true statement
England does not have a distinctive culture, millions of cultures there. English is a Germanic language for starters!
Academia is finally catching up with what Tommy Robinson has been warning us if for the last 10 years.
I posted T R. Court update 2 days ago on FB. 3day ban..
The self help guy?
@@Flamingpiano lol..no not really m8t
Geoff Cox, the attorney General at the time sent Tommy to prison, without him being able to plea. This man is now in trouble ...
@@johndavied3448 good, corruption rampant
Most of the nation is fully awake to the problem and worried, but unfortunately no one in power is prepared to bite the bullet and start tackling it. The longer it’s left the more difficult it will be (even impossible) to fix
The middle class still have their heads in the sand
Most people are frightened if they say anything. They have seen and heard what has happened to some, loosing there job is not the worst that can happen....
Be smart, be like Poland. An interesting talk Peter, thanks.
Not quite sure how you put a genie back in the bottle. Eastern Europe is like Britain was in the 50's. At least they have the chance to avoid making the same disastrous mistakes as us.
I love my zero.
@@duncan649 Many of them have the disadvantage of having to tow the EU line.
Rommy Tobinson said all that about Manchester mosques, but he wasn'ta Professor...Rommy has his faults, but he knew where hate was coming from.
We have legislation in this country WHY IS IT NOT BEING USED Priti Patel ?????
@@beammeup8458 Because of Boris 'The Turk' Johnson
@@unicron2109 there's something bigger than him. All countries appear to be doing the same thing?
My old Sunday school, in a Manchester urban street was part of the Methodist church just across the road. It was almost chapel-like in its looks, small and neat. It was purchased by an Islamic 'community' and for a while was used without alteration, as a mosque. I moved away. Now, the little Sunday school has been replaced by a Massive mosque, five times the size, that completely fills the site. It's Huge and hideously clashes with all around it. But, there's zero parking. Only one reason it was given planning permission. Any guesses?
@Richard Fox we all get into trouble when we presuppose another person's mindset and intention.... whatever his motive, he has a nose for seeking out hateful ideology.
This guy is in La La Land! We fought 2 world wars to keep this country free & safe only to give it away. You couldn't make it up🥱
u and i know if people back then could see there beloved England /Uk in this future they would of u know what !
@@WilfTompkins5546 troops coming back home to find the enemy is among them
@@WilfTompkins5546 both failures to accept people are usually what they tell you they are
You didn't fight anything lol
A great conversation that wouldn’t be allowed on MSM simply because of the truth being told. We need to be strong in our faith in God and humanity! 🙏🏼✝️⛪️💪🏼🏴🇬🇧
I doubt any of them are truly offended by the cartoons. The cartoons only give them an excuse for power plays.
Without doubt.
It’s true just an excuse
Indeed the imam in Denmark had to draw two extra offensive cartoons because nobody was actually offened
I salute Victor Orben and the wisdom and bravery of the Hungarian people. Orben should be head of the EU.
The liberal and weak leader Boris will not confront the culture wars. His voice is not heard, appearing fearful of being called xenophobic and racist by promoting this countries magnificent history, traditions and values. It is a country divided and he doesn't care.
The Conservative party doesn’t even know what the culture war, it’s completely captured by international finance
So true integration, diversity, CRAP, its just simply DIVISIVE pure and simple.
[ AMONG THE MOSQUES OF DAR AL-HARB - MY WORRYING JOURNEY ACROSS MUSLIM OCCUPIED BRITTAIN AS AN APOSTATE LITE ]
Fostering anti-British, anti-Western attitudes....not just mosques is it? Same attitudes are rife at BBC, in academia, in NGO's and institutions as well as the Labour Party.
Sabatian Saboteurs.
Yeah there's connection between lefties and muslims who equally hate GB for different reasons - the islamo-left
I'm reminded of Blair's advisor Andrew Neather - "we're going to rub the right's nose in diversity". Turned out well hasn't it?
It's like trying to cook a dish but the ingredients just won't mix.
Oil and water.
The diversity just doesnt play nice. We bring them here and expect they'll change over to western thinking, culture, ways of behaving. It just doesnt happen.
England planted Protestants from Scotland, who were largely Gaelic as well, in to Ireland, look at the mayhem that caused.
Islam is Completely alien.
Confidence in our government to confront Islam and blasphemy by the back door, you must be joking!
Yes, unfortunately they are spineless, they just don't have the minerals to stand up for what is right.
Mischaracterisation of Trump and his supporters, Mr. Husain. Please put a fine definition on 'Republican extremists', please. I'm not confident you have.
I can’t think of any Republican extremists.
if you consider yourself a republican you are by definition not an extremist
Remember the kkk was formed by democrats, and LBJ was providing people of black with enoughwelfare to keep them away from work, I believe the quote was along the lines of 'give the ni****s just enough'.
Most charitable from a relatively modern democrat president. Not extreme surely?
@@forthfarean Then you just can't think!
@@MrFpam you forgot 'group think'
What fantastic food for the mind this show is, long may it continue - never would we see anything like this in mainstream tv next to the drivel of televisions output
I’ve read the book and recommend it
I do think the author is over optimistic and understates the day to day problems in living in these low cost housing areas with those who do not integrate
he wouldn't get published if he told the real truth IMO.
Ghettos and enclaves of dissention and radicalization.
I've read it and generally it's very frank , but rather negative but realistic , the conclusion he comes to in my opinion is way too optimistic .
@@joycegibbs5267 Hi Joyce , I've read it and he does'nt pull any punches , the stuff he exposes is shocking.
@@petersmith3953 yes he is too optimistic about the future - in reality there have never ever been successful multi ethnic societies - it’s delusional to think the U.K. can succeed in its diversity endeavour
The difficulty is that the huge numbers of immigrants are not motivated to adopt British values because there has not been that expectation.
British values? Football hooligans, fish and chips, children seen and not heard......?
The title is as much an oxymoron as “across Christian Pakistan.”
Excellent points made here by the Ed Hussein.
It doesn't mean the entirety of Britain is Islamic; it refers to the bits that are.
Couldn’t agree more. I worry most about terminology and labels that become the currency of our so-called culture/society. Community groups and other bodies , of the kind mentioned here and loved by local government.
@@anthonyryan998 none of it should be.
He thinks Muslim women will be allowed to marry with different cultures? They end up set on fire like that poor girl recently.
Thousands of Muslim girls in the UK married non Muslims, not many fires so far!
@@miketomlin6040 thousands of honour killings though for reasons like who a woman dates, ending a relationship etc.
@Momowasafleshepeddler Thrush I'm not a big fan of killing people because they fuck Joe or Janet!
@@swivvle1185 Been many thousands over the years, another reason to get rid of idiocies like religion!
I left the UK to live in Australia 20 years ago. One thing that really made a big impact on me was a conversation I had with a very successful hard-working Pakistani business man who confidently stated that ‘we will be running the country in less than 200 years’. I was taken aback at the time but with 20 years hindsight; I’d say more like 100 years.
According to Professor D. Coleman the point at which the white British become a minority will be around 2066. He gave his calculations in 2010 before the 2011 census. His students called for him to be sacked. We dare not talk about immigration in any bad way so that's the future they want they can have it and I'm glad I'll be dead hopefully before the bad stuff starts.
And it will be ruined in a very short time.
As a woman on my own, nearly 20 years ago I left as I could see what was going to happen and I did not like it
Uganda had this problem in the 70s so did Fiji in the 80s that's why Colonel Rabuka and Idi Amin had to nip this problem in the bud.
I don't think they get it. Most Brits would not go out of their way to deliberately offend Muslims by cartoons or any other means. We're mostly polite. But when we told that we cannot do or say certain things and threatened with violence (or the law by lunatics like Humza Yousaf), then that's a whole different matter.
The Christian idea of separation from state is ruled out in Islamic ideology.
Not a Christian idea in fact- but widespread in what we call ‘Christian ‘ countries. Historically this is a recent development
@jo sm yes Islam is bad. Christianity has been bad in previous centuries- and still is in USA
@jo sm agreed.
Having recently read Among the Mosques to increase my knowledge of muslims in Britain it has unfortunately reaffirmed my general view of the problems that exist. We cannot be tolerant of intolerant thought and it must be addressed to ensure Britain remains the beacon of free speech and equality in the world.
Absolutely right. Unfortunately our leaders and many of us, suffer from the OSTRICH SYNDROME. My father wept when Poland and Hungary fell into communism and wept for joy when communism fell. He taught many Poles to fly in the war. I applaud their people today and what we have done to help them; I saw in the seventies what they suffered at first hand. Loss of culture, personal identity and freedom are hard won and easily lost. Religion when hijacked by politics is lethal and in the UK our institutions are being sanitised by stealth. Its rapidity in recent months has at least awakened us to the issues.
Fortune favours the brave.
Short version. Enoch was right..?
Just one disturbing event that happened to me.
Went into an asian fabric shop roundhay road, leeds. Inside was asian mom, dad and small child, perhaps 6 years old with a plastic sword
The child saw me, grimaced, came at me waving the sword saying repeatedly 'I chop your head off'. Parents did nothing. Maybe they were proud.
You should report them for being racist and hate crime
i know nothing would be done there is the problem with these so called laws only work 1 way
You spend money in muslim shops?
@@johnsmith-mq4eq its getting really hard to find shops that aren't run by them SADLY
@@johnsmith-mq4eq I'm either naive or an imbecile 😁
My parents had always voted Labour. I remember as a child the Enoch Powell speech. I never got to know what the speech was, simply that Enoch Powell was an irretrievable bigot, beyond the pale. Maybe in the 1960s migration was well short of what it is today so not then a problem. Unfortunately in 2020s Enoch Powell looks like a prophet foretelling the future but nobody took him seriously before it was too late.
Immigration was only mentioned in conversation very occasionally in white communities, yes there was a concern in the changing faces in our major cities…. But now it is a major topic, literally every meeting up of friends over the past few years has been the floods of immigrants, the concerns of our culture and way of life in a sharp decline, afraid to speak out for fear of being racist while those that enter get full care packages, housing, pocket money AND a voice! It’s not going to end up peaceful, is it?
That is fascinating, imagine how many ordinary British people live under the black dog now!! He experienced it for a heartbeat and it was shocking to him, now we just accept it... Very sad
Professor Husain is as detached from the reality of Islam in the UK as many of the natives. They are here for our money and their ease. We are just a resource to them.
Excellent interview. Although, I think the Batley scandal just highlighted how reluctant, or completely absent, the government is on the issue of critical thought and free expression. The silence is deafening!
Enoch Powell was right, we need a statue for him in Bristol
We need one on every door step, or an image in our windows .I have been thinking of putting one up😀
The BBC won't like this.
Why not?
Liked before you even begin just because you are interviewing Ed Husain. His book, "The Islamist," should be required reading for all politicians, not only for his direct knowledge and experience, but also for his courage to change course.
No such talking points in Poland and Hungary I'll bet ? .
Nazi'' regimes there, so less interest in integration
The politicians who let these people in and gave us this problem should be charged with treason. Islam does not like any art that represents humans or creatures.
Global Capitalism loves mass immigration as it’s cheap labour and future consumers
We are sleepwalking towards a catastrophe.
This week I saw a report that a UK court was actually considering a case about 'bride price'. WTF? If shouldn't be a case at all. This is Britain not fecking India or Pakistan!! At what point do we turn around and say NO?
The greatest Culture in the world, the culture that created the modern world, from a Small Island with many of the greatest minds of all time.
Destroyed by international finance and its love of cheap labour and future consumers
Exactly! What's Islam given to the World... Fuck all!
@@evolassunglasses4673 But in a cruel turn of fate, a system of international finance whose conditions of existence were created by that very same small island.
Worrying to me is just how many Muslims and mosques there are in my country!!
This guy is living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks there will be harmony
Fantastic about time these conversations where had but we need strong leadership across the UK 🏴🇬🇧
Suggesting they leave if they don’t like it here is splendid. Maybe Hitler’s army would’ve left Poland if the same suggestion had been made. All that WW2 type fuss could’ve been avoided.
I believe he was saying they should be offered a chance to go voluntarily .
If we had forbidden halal slaughter, banned the hijab in schools, places of work etc, banned the burka and niqab, forbidden the founding of deobandhi mosques, restricted where people could live to avoid parallel societies, promoted Christianity and our culture they would never have come or stayed but we did the opposite. Islam is the protected religion of state and Islam has found out violence wins in a democracy. The future is social destabilisation and terror towards non Muslims. We must remember to thank our politicians and never forget what they chose to do.
i was talking with an indian woman (hindu) in the US and she was telling me how where she lives is "advanced" because the area is mixed. What I later learned is that in her apartment building, there are hindus living next door to indian sikhs, next door to indian muslims -- and that is what she meant by "mixed". The idea of living next to an american wasn't even considered.
The nation has been aware for years, we just aren't allowed to say anything due to clever marketing and bottle jobs. UK is doomed if nothing changes. Welfare state needs to collapse for any chance of change.
The economy will collapse first, The drain on the welfare state is simply not sustainable. It wasn’t established to support people for life and mass immigration. It was a safety net for the British workers who fell on hard times and for a relatively short time . Of course it’s been abused for years and years but governments do not want to upset their imported votes .
@@supersonicsid5930 Not just the imported voters. The "human rights" lawyers would be up in arms, and I think they're the ones our Ruling Class are *really* scared of.
@@supersonicsid5930 thank you for spelling this out.
Supersonic Sid Maybe it won't collapse because the international bankers can just print money at will to crash the west .
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If the UK was a business they would have declared it bankrupt 25 years ago. The government has borrowed money that it has no chance of ever paying back . We are even further in debt now due to this virus. It’s managed to pay 80% of people’s wages this comes at an incredible cost . When I used to work and it was time for a pay rise their favorite excuse was austerity. I worked for years at basically the same wage , an abundance of cheep Labor because of mass immigration gave every company the upper hand. In other words we were screwed .
'Muslim Britain'' - Is that its new name?
The trouble is we are led by liars and cowards, not just in Parliament but across the whole unelected state. Many keep quiet for fear of losing their jobs. As Edmund Burke wrote all those years ago 'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. '
He keeps using 3rd person pronouns like 'We in Britain...' but he's escaped to Washington just in time to throw this book-grenade into the country that gave him so much.
you misunderstand him I believe. Roger Scruton marked his Doctorate. His 2007 book was fabulously insightful, and a warning to the UK about the dangers of radicalisation, and of ignoring the problem. He's a very good writer.
Done a Rushdie?
Can you blame him? Free speech doesn't exist in Britain. At least he's safe.
@@ReclusiveAsta I seem to recall a few examples of where free speech haas been abolished in the US. There are a bunch of things I can say in this comment that could get me banned, academics have been fired for wrong-think and citizens are doxed by linch mobs so nowhere is safe at this point? Little wonder all these billionaires are trying to escape the planet.
'We' is a first person pronoun (in the plural).
I havent heard anyone speak so much sense, so bravely for a LONG time! Thank you Professor!!!
Love this man, so honest, and true to what we are all thinking,
*Not every mosque has a dome.* There are hundreds of registered mosques in most towns that simply look like a home. Why? Because you don't pay council tax on a place of worship.
Saying "please leave" is a good start but it has to be swiftly followed up with a push and if they refuse and carry on as before, they have to be thrown out.
Whylie74: Vis a vis....."..a push ....then they have to be thrown out". That's really working well in the English Channel just now, isn't it? The Trojan Horse has arrived and, as we speak, continues to disgorge its army of young, military aged males. So, what does Brexit Britain do? Escort them in, give them bed, board and pocket money! I despair for my former homeland. Your politicians are either extremely weak or it is all pre-planned.
And will anything be done to correct this condition .........No !
He needs to be able to convert a considerable number of influential Imams to his way of thinking and for our govt to stop treating Muslims with kid gloves. They do need to integrate or if they like fundamental Islam there are plenty of countries to choose from to migrate to.
moved from England to Hungary in 2003. Would never go back.
We all know, following the Brexit debarcal, government comes between the wishes of the majority 85% white British public. And their desire to maintain their own culture, multicultural Britain, was never asked for, along with mass immigration.
*debacle
@@DieFlabbergast How does one pronounce this word?
What an excellent and detailed interview. It is a pleasure to hear two minds examine a contentious issue politely.
Hungary will be the safest country in Europe when Europe is destroyed by the Othman empire 2.1
From Hungary. I moved in 1990 and never looked back.
It's a group of countries.
Not for long. Isolated and surrounded by enemies they will fall as well.
I can think of only one culture in the recent past that has been subjected to unlimited migrants from another culture. That culture was the Native American culture that was eventually overwhelmed by European settlers. The end result was the almost total destruction of that culture and its people.
The massive influx into Europe of a culture that is the antithesis of Western culture may have a similar outcome.
Excellent informative interview. The only quibble I had was Prof Husain's faith in the current Tory cabinet to fix the problem - and especially in Mr Johnson - his faith there is I'm afraid utterly misplaced.
I can't listen or watch anymore. It is sad beyond word the way this country is heading.
The question is were the native community asked if they wanted their culture to become multi-cultural?
They don't need to be. Islam is different from non white people coming here. An Islamic Britain is not good. But a non white Britain is good. So get over yourself.
A sane, civilized and decent perspective. Sadly, needs more exposure.
Dang, you guys at NCFC always impress. This is amazing video - thanks from the American part of the Anglosphere.
Refreshing to hear someone named Hussain say "we"
"there has to be a confident center" profound
Great interview, I'll have to save this one so I can show it to friends and family that think my comments are bigoted.
Thanks for introducing me to another honorable thinker. A friend of Sir Roger Scruton is a friend of mine. Prof. Husain, welcome to the US, and peace.
Here's me thinking that diversity is 'our strength' or so we are continually told. It seems though that some people from some cultures don't really fancy being part of an integrated society.
Academics and intellectuals of all races understand both side’s of the coin, but the vast majority of foreigners know only the philosophy of their own religion, and would like to impose it on to the people of the Uk. We will not buy in to that way of living,the British people fought two world wars to stop this island from being invaded, are borders have now collapsed. It does not look good for social cohesion does it. 🏴🇬🇧
Good Sir, as a fellow white from the continent i approach you with best wishes for a successful defense of your island and people.
But please, stop repeating lies and war propaganda.
In WW1 the Reich offered a "status quo ante" peace to Britain which was refused.
In WW2 Hitler even made the offer to provide military support to protect the empire against every enemy it faces including then allied Italy. He repeated that multiple times.
@@dezinke3862 Sir what is being referred to was the motivation given to the people who fought in these wars, you may be correct that the Reich didn't want war with Britian, but the actual soliders weren't privy to this, they fought for the prosperity of future generations, and what did they die for, in the end?
@@ReclusiveAsta
You're correct on the soldiers aspect. In many cases it must be that way so that the focus is entirely on his mission especially when it's a difficult one. Hitler explained to his soldiers why they had to wait for information before operation Barbarossa.
Sorry I'm not sure to which soldiers are you referring? I would say in the end it's devastating for every single soldier of that war to see what developed after their sacrifice .
@@dezinke3862 Very true, I was referring to British soldiers specifically but you are correct that almost every soldier's sacrifice has been bastardised due to the harm the elites have caused in recent times.
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Well sometimes even these so called "elites" fall prey to the chosen small hats parasites.
But we shall keep in memory and honor the sacrifice of all our soldiers be they German or English or Russian because they are all our brothers.
Peter, thank you for this OUTSTANDING straight talking interview with Ed Hussain. As an ex-pat here in Cape Town I take a lively interest in the place of my origins. Please host this remarkable man again.
Five gold stars for this one. 👏👏👏
I’ve read this book, it really worried me. I think everyone should read this.