I actually agree with Karlo on this. This is exactly how I understood the comments when I first heard them, and still do. The pope has a focus on evangelizing. He is trying to open the hearts of people to Christ so they can be brought down the path to Catholicism. You don't do this by insulting their religions and brow beating them. And, yes, I do believe that most people who are venturing down a spiritual path are seeking God. Just because it's not 100% the best path doesn't mean that it's not a path. And we've seen over and over again how people will turn onto the right path at some point as they discover who God is. Do not participate in hardening their hearts by criticizing the pope every step of the way. I am confident that he has converted more hearts to Christ than you have.
No one is attracted by dumbed down, diluted Catholicism, absolutely no one, that is why we have a worldwide loss of faith and religious vocations since Vatican II took place, and also why the devout Catholic youth of today is overwhelmingly traditional. Furthermore, it's ridiculous to try to convert people by preaching heresy and ambiguity to them, that's called lying and blaspheming the faith that Christ gave us. In all these years, the Pope hasn't converted a single person, all he has done is dumb down the faith, create confusion, lead many faithful Catholics outside of the Church and persecute and dismantle the traditions of the Church. He says this heretical weirdness, while Christ said that the only way is through Him alone and that many WILL NOT be saved. Worst pope in the history of the Catholic Church.
Also he was talking to non-Christians. If he said to them "My faith is superior to yours" - dialogue ends there on a spot. Pope said so many beautiful things during his last voyage to Indonesia about bettering our lives and we are only talking about one sentence directed to non-Christians.
I honestly don't understand the need for clarity. I am a post Pentecostal Protestant in the process of converting to Catholic. I read this today... Seems clear to me... CCC843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life.
@@JewelyAnne No you got that wrong. The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) 843 emphasizes the Church's recognition of truth and goodness in other religions. However, this does not negate the belief that Jesus is the only way to God within Catholic teaching. Here's how these ideas are reconciled: Jesus as the Unique Mediator: The Catholic Church teaches that Jesus Christ is the unique and definitive mediator between God and humanity (see CCC 480 and CCC 620). This belief remains central to Catholic faith. Recognition of Truth in Other Religions: CCC 843 highlights that while the Church acknowledges the presence of truth and goodness in other faiths, this does not imply that these paths lead to salvation outside of Christ. Rather, the Church views these elements as preparations for the full revelation found in Jesus. Salvation Through Christ: The Church maintains that salvation ultimately comes through Christ alone. While God’s grace can operate in mysterious ways, the fullness of truth is found in the teachings of Jesus and the Church.
He won't issue any clarification. He hasn't for other heresies he has uttered. That would go against the agenda of wrecking the church. That would go against his personal objectives.
@@victoriaeinbinder9487 Remember when the Olympics utterly spat in Christ's face with one of the most heinous displays ever? And we all waited and waited and waited for Francis to defend our Lord. It took the Muslim president of Turkey to provoke a tepid, limp wristed response from Rome.
What is worst than pope Francis making those comments is Catholics trying to defend it. It's indefensible and he meant exactly what everyone is afraid of for two reasons: 1. The context: He was talking to Hindus and Muslims and there's no way they would have a concept of the second meaning of what he said. All those Hindus there left that place knowing that they can reach the same God through their religion 2. The specifics: Pope Francis specifically made it clear that the God of the Christians is not better than those of other religion in attempt to dismiss any option for thinking that the Christian way was "the only right path". Catholics ought to be honest to themselves about the views of the man they see as the vicar of Christ for what it is.
The Successor of Peter (the Prince of the Apostles) remains the Vicar of Christ regardless of how well he does his job. We also know that the Vicar of Christ will never speak wrongly when he speaks ex cathedra. The miraculous 2000 years old history of the Church is the proof of Christ's pledge that the gates of hell shall never prevail, despite the boat of Peter: the Church Militant having been continuously shaken by internal corruption, schisms, and heretics of all kinds.
Agree with you. I don't think Pope Francis' comments are defensible. Catholic Answers is giving me a bad impression after defending Pope Francis again and again.
@@parleremilian6879 By the way, did you know that the expression 'Vicar of Christ' is fairly recent in Church history? For the longest time, the Pope was known as the Vicar of PETER - not CHRIST...
@@superapex2128 The term Vicar of Christ might be more recent than the times when God walked on this earth, but just as the words Most Holy Trinity, Mother of God, Transubstantiation, and social kingship of Christ (in opposition to separation of Church and state by the false liberal/free-masonic ideology), it expresses in a concise way what has always been held by the Apostolic Faith and it's either implicit or explicit in the Gospel (put together the Holy Catholic Church) or it has always been part of the Tradition of the Mystical Body of Christ passed on by the Saints. The Gospel (assembled by the Catholic Church) is even explicit in saying that Saint Peter is truly the one to whom God entrusted the keys of His kingdom and the power to bind and loose on earth, as well as personally commanding him to feed His sheeps 3 times. Just as it explicitly states that the Eucharist is truly His Flesh - as scientifically studied Eucharistic miracles also prove to confirm our Faith. God did not establish a bunch of sects at odds with each other, whose end result is to make Truth relative (indeed liberalism is the bastard son of protestantism), nor did He establish a bunch of de facto state churches at war with each other and defined along ethnic lines as eastern "orthodoxs". But He establised His one visible and Universal Church founded on the Apostles, and giving the keys of His Kingdom to the Prince of the Apostles: Saint Peter. This Church is the extention of the Incarnation throughout space time, and speaks infallibly in matters of doctrine, it allows us to participate in the Calvary Sacrifice (the Mass) and grants us the Sacraments to enable us to live the life of grace. Even protestant who are invincibly ignorant but do their best to follow the Commandments, made perfect act of contrition for the mortal sin they commited (which isn't easy), and correspond to whatever grace God gives them to be saved, they are alive but invisible members of the Catholic Church. Indeed every human being that receives baptism, even baptism of desire, becomes a member of this Mystical Body of Christ. But unfortunately Catholics and invisible members of the Church who received valid baptism, as soon as they commit their first mortal sin (which could be a formal act of heresy or schism) they become dead members of the Church of Jesus Christ. The members of the Church become saints by the measure with which we unite ourselves to this infinite source of sanctity that is the Mystical Body Christ: the Catholic Church.
Jesus said, "I am the way, The Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except througj me." The Pope said, "Nah. All religions are paths to God." Jesus died for you. The Pope still needs a Saviour.
@@readmails3033 Jeremiah 5:30-31 A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: 31 The prophets prophesy lies, the (Priests rule) by their (own authority), and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?
No, he did not say that. Pope Francis has said many times, both before and after this comment to encourage inter-religious dialog (for the sake of peace) that Jesus is the One and Only Savior, Try not to hyperventilate about poorly worded comments from a man who has given his life to God and is spending his tie in serving the Church by traveling to the ends of the earth to preach the Gospel -- which he did at Mass before his meeting with this group who are seeking peace through dialog.
There is only one God. The idea is that other religions are attempting to worship the One True God, whatever they may wrongly call Him or however they may wrongly worship Him. It’s still an attempt. And as Christians, knowing the true path to the One True God, being Jesus, we need to be kind and honor that pursuit of others and not denigrate it, because that opens the door for evangelization.
It's not confusing at all once you understand the full context, Conciliar documents from the Church, and previous statements from Pope Francis as well as John Paul and Benedict. All you have to do is read Lumen Gentium to find out what he meant. He's stated before on many, many occasions that "Jesus is the only door" to Salvation. Poorly phrased? Perhaps. Unitarian? Resoundingly not.
I simply wish Pope Francis would occasionally say something that makes non-Christians consider the possible need for repentance and conversion instead of putting the rest of us on the back foot to explain to them that they’re not really hearing what they think they hear.
@@ottovonappsIf we were to do that we would be evangelising heresy and not Christianity. A lost man cannot give directions to a fellow that is also lost.
Sorry, no. There is no ambiguity. Most of the people in Singapore speak English, that is why you had an English interpreter, and he spoke very clearly. Nor did the Vatican reinterpret or give a more clear explanation, not this time. Here is part of the original video, "Every religion is a way to arrive at God. There are different languages to arrive at God but God is God for all. But my god is more important than your god, is that true? There is only one God, and each has a language to arrive at God. Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, they are all different paths." What is unclear to you?
Is it the fault of the Bible that there are now 50,000 Protestant interpretations? Same thing here, it’s not the Pope’s fault, but it’s the interpreter’s fault.
What this tells me is that 'Catholic' answers is not Catholic at all. I mean this is pretty basic stuff... If you can't even get that right, why be in this business at all?!?
@cecquela Assuming you're a Catholic, doesn't comparing Catholicism and Protestantism in this way undermine most of the arguments against Protestantism?
you forgot st paul who when challenged about eating meat to other "gods" said if there is only one God, then any meat you eat offered to any god is still offered to the one God....if we believe there is only one God, then others seeking God are still seeking God. Our path is way clearer for sure, and we are linked DIRECTLY to God the Father (and the Son and the Holy SPirit) but many of them (he did not say all) are on the path. Please dont forget that we have a Eucharistic Prayer that mentions we pray for those who seek God with a sincere heart....it is in our most sacred rite
@@lakilakisorong8204 I Cor 8:1-4 Paul holds there is only one God as we do, and so anyone reaching out to God is reaching out to the one God. There is a thing called henotheism and that is when there is a belief in multiple gods...egypt, greece, etc... and sometimes Israel, but you can read time and time the emphasis on One God, no others, and if there is only one God and someone is reaching out to God (maybe using a name we dont know or an imperfect understanding) they are reaching out to the ONE God.that is true monotheism, which Catholicism was last I checked thanks for the clarifying question
God is testing our faith as catholics. Stay in the Church. At bare minimum, *respect* the position of the papacy. No one said you have to like the pope. Even Jesus and Saul would clash with Peter. The devil wants you to panic. Don't.
The enemy don't want you to panic. He wants you to stay complacent in the face of blatant Hershey as he continues to make you shift towards full on opposition of The God of the Bible.
When the faithful are confused or disturbed by something, it is an act of charity to explain the truth to them - one of the spiritual acts of mercy. Explaining what the pope probably means is the duty of those who represent the faith. Calling someone a pope-splainer for simply doing what a Catholic should do is unnecessarily provocative and dismissive. The improper response is to stir up people against the Vicar of Christ while using this or that as a pretext.
@@kbeautician Or you could just, you know, read a little. You might not be as confused. That's entirely your own fault. "Popesplaining" is no less of a cringeworthy term than "mansplaining," by the way. These words are only used by people who wouldn't be interested in any type of an explanation to begin with because they frankly possess no intellectual humility in the first place. You think you already know everything, so you shoo away any attempt at further understanding. Good luck making any spiritual or intellectual progress with that mentality. Gee. I wonder which rude, snippy, unoriginal, condescending catchphrase you'll drag from the arsenal to snap back at me? 🤔
@@kbeautician The term "gaslighting" is overused to try and dismiss an argument. It is also considered, by the catechism, to be gravely sinful to bear false witness. Where in the video. Assuming that you watched the video, perhaps you can present evidence to back up your accusation of gaslighting against Dr Karlo. Or, if you have given false witness, I would suggest correcting yourself to minimize the damage of such a sin and then take it to confession before receiving Communion. God bless.
You are the tiresome one who is easily duped and lacks prayer… A compilation of statements by Pope Francis on Jesus being the only way to salvation: 1. Homily, Casa Santa Marta, November 4, 2016: "There is no other way. Jesus is the door. It is a door that does not deceive. It is a door that does not make us do wrong. Whoever enters through Jesus will be saved. He will go in and out and find pasture." 2. General Audience, May 15, 2013: "Jesus is the only way to heaven; to know Him, and to follow Him, is to walk on the way of salvation." 3. Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel), 2013, Paragraph 14: "No one is saved by his or her own efforts or works. Rather, we are saved by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ."
And yet the bible tells us not to grow tired of doing good. It is a good work to explain the faith to those who are disturbed or confused by statements to make sure that they understand what the Church teaches.
I’ve lost some respect for you two, and I don’t say that easily. I’m not asking you to bash the pope or expecting you to fuss him. But …. over and over and over again. Literally dozens upon dozens of incidents have to be thoroughly explained by the talking heads. There will be a price to pay for this lukewarm attitude towards a pope who continuously and consistently confuses the entire church. At least Trent Horn had the guts to say the truth
I think they are just trying to calm us down, I personally think he should not have said it but given how he was trying to just charm people I can say that statement doesnt count as heresy, but instead counts as a lie
@@Onlyafool172 I too do not believe the pope uttered formal heresy. I’m not even at liberty to make such a judgement. I also think yes they do work as panic suppressors. But honestly, we don’t need to be pampered. This constant pope-splaining is just nauseating. What’s sad is that it keeps having to be done so often.
You guys..Stop the nonsense. He messed up and just admit to that. He was very clear, and you guys are playing cleanup. Cleanup means that you're lying. Don't make excuses for what he said. Let him come out and say something different, which he hasnt. The Catholic Church will continue without his personal statements, but dont pretend
@mortensimonsen1645 I believe he doesn't, but clearly, the moment was too big for him. He didn't want to disappoint the crowd, but disappointing Jesus was ok. I know that seems harsh, but that's the way I took it. We have faith, and it needs to be told no matter how others feel about it
@@otgenesis5046 You need to seriously consider the context of the comments, IN THEIR ENTIRETY, to whom was he was speaking and what was the conversation about. Don't take a soundbite approach to this, you're doing absolutely no one, including yourself. Do your homework man.
Is it the fault of the Bible that there are now 50,000 Protestant interpretations? Same thing here, it’s not the Pope’s fault, but it’s the interpreter’s fault.
Telling others they will not get to God bc of the religion they practice seems soo hypocritical to the teachings of love and respect Christians are taught .. that is just showing disrespect , hate and hypocrisy… God created everyone and everything right ? He put everyone on this earth and depending on where they were born ? Grew up and what they learned .. many didn’t have a choice and that … but created and placed all that .. only God can read hearts and minds … he will judge who goes to heaven not you …
@@Search4theTruth 1 Jesus said go preach the gospel everywhere does who believe and get baptised is saved those that don't they are condamned. 2nd if you religion tell you kill other and if you are not a muslim they are animals you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that this is wrong. 3rd how would you face all the christians being killed by muslims becuase they are christian? Do you know what Islam teaches?
I just finished taking a course taught by someone who worked for many many years for the Holy Father when he was still Archbishop of Buenos Aires. Last night at our last class I asked him, “how well do you know the Holy Father after working for him for so many years?” To which he replied, “fairly well.” I proceeded to ask him about this and his response made a lot of sense to me. He said, (paraphrasing) The Holy Father was having an inter faith dialogue. He spoke as Holy Mother Church has set the guidelines for this type of dialogue to be done. He was not speaking apologetics with other Christians. He was speaking to people who do not share our belief in Jesus and the way we know God. So you start with what you have in common. If you plant your flag, although you’re not saying you don’t believe the Church is the true faith, you get nowhere. All everyone will end up doing is shutting down the dialogue and not open lines of communication. You do not approach a Protestant, an orthodox, an atheist, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, etc all in the same way. Again, he wasn’t speaking apologetics.
Although I totally understand ecumenism and I understand reaching out to sinners such as homosexuals, you do no one a favor by bending the truth. You speak to them in ways they understand, but you speak the truth when necessary. Francis stretches the bending to the breaking point. In the process, he scandalizes his own flock.
@@jtt8886 dialogue with those who do not accept and believe in our Lord, Jesus you can’t simply argue your point across. Many of us can argue back and forth with Protestants slinging Bible verses back and forth but none of us would use the same approach with an atheist. The whole point is that these were people who are not Christian. Tell them to their face that they’re religion is false, which is true, you end up shutting the communication down. If you disagree I’d invite you to go to a Muslim and tell them Jesus is Lord and Muhammad is a false prophet and see how that works out. If the flock is scandalized it’s bc the flock tends to say they believe the Lord founded the Church on St. Peter and that the apostolic succession with the primacy of the Holy Father will never be overcome by the gates of hades and then quickly fall into fear like if the Church is failing. Our first Pope denied our Lord and was called satan by Jesus. We seem not to be just sheep anymore but rather fainting goats. Something seems not ok and Catholics all over just tip over in despair.
@@in_defense_of_the_church What was Jesus' and the Apostles model? Go to where the Jews and pagans are and bring them the good news. The Bible is very clear on this point. They did that up unto the point of death.
You approach as the apostles approach. Willing to die for the message of the Gospel. And why would you call another man Holy Father? This is blasphemy. Acts 20:29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
@@slimero3039 if you knew your Scriptures you’d know that there are two types of Holy. One meaning sin free/perfect as in God and another as in “set apart” without being sin free. The wolves you are referring to are all those men and women who have started their own churches and taught their own interpretations.
Pope Francis needs to clarify his position as soon as possible as at the moment he is stating something very misleading and definitely against what scripture teaches.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 what is there to clarify? He said what he said everyone understands what he said so ask yourself why am I trying to justify something that came out of the popes mouth?
He said they are DIFFERENT paths. Since popes St. John Paul II and Benedict made similar statements, it was very little left for our imagination. We immediately knew what he meant. They were referring to the Church doctrine regarding salvation for people from other religions in the context of inter-religious dialogue.
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic yes, that is the truth. But when you have said the bare-bones of that truth, what have you gained? Have you shared the Beauty of the Truth Who is our Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God? Will anyone want to gaze on Him in adoration and know that His is LOVE? The pope is getting old. He has no time left to give out dry-as-straw dogmas to those who are starving for LOVE. So he steps out in faith and uses words to try to touch hearts, to warm them and let them open like a blossom. The pope is counting on God to give them the other, more mature words, like those you wrote. But the words will not be dry to the hearts that are open! Instead, these words wil be what you want them to be, Rivers of Grace, shaken together and overflowing and feeding the five thousands of five thousands! So do not fret. The pope's words were not wasted, especially since I am sure you are praying for him!
That's fine. And you know that these were not written remarks but off-the-cuff, not meant to carry the burden so many want to place on them --- not intended to teach the fullness of Truth.
The majority of those who don't actually work in the field don't understand how interpretation/translation works. I've worked in the translation industry for over 30 years (Italian to English to Italian). I listened to the what the pope said as well as to how his words were interpreted and the interpreter made some poor word choices. I also saw the corrected version that the Vatican put out. I compared it against what was originally said, as well as how it was originally interpreted, and I can understand why they made the corrections they did. Since interpretation takes place live, interpreters don't have much time to think about their choice of words, consider alternatives and review their work to make sure that it is as accurate as possible. They are expected to listen to the speaker and translate their speech instantaneously It is difficult to achieve the same level of accuracy as more traditional (written) translation services where the translator has more time to think, analyse and do some research if necessary. While most mistakes that happen during interpretation tend to be minor, and are therefore inconsequential, occasionally serious issues and misunderstandings can arise (such as in this case). When this happens, the recording of the original content is closely examined and a more accurate written translation is then provided. This is standard practice in the industry. Some people think that all that is required to be an interpreter is to know two languages. However, it's not that simple. In order to be skilled at interpreting, you not only have to be fluent in both languages, you also need to have the capacity to communicate nuanced cultural and linguistic differences in real time. You have to be a fast thinker. A professional interpreter has a lot of practice and will tend to make far fewer mistakes than someone who does not interpret for a living. My guess is that the person who interpreted for the pope that day was not a professional interpreter and, given that that's most likely the case, what the Vatican did was follow up with a more accurate written translation.. One give away, that the interpreter was not a professional, was that he made the common mistake that many inexperienced interpreters and translators make which is translate word for word. The reason that this is a mistake is that sometimes there are nuances in the source language that don't exist in the target language and vice-versa which, if not taken into account, can lead to misinterpretations, I'm guessing that those who say that the interpreter translated correctly are also inexperienced (or don't understand/speak Italian as well as they claim) as they clearly didn't capture the nuances that were missed.
@@anta3612 Clearly then the interpreter was incompetent and this reflects badly on Vatican officials who employed him which makes you wonder how many more people employed at the Vatican are incompetent at their jobs l mean as you said you were incompetent at your job job for 30 years as an interpreter and you were paid to interpret and couldn’t get it right and if mistakes are being made then they should be corrected but this is not the case for the pope and the Vatican because they haven’t condemned the interpreter for any mistakes in fact Pope Francis has confirmed the interpreter spoke the truth
@@martinmartin1363 Clearly my comment went completely over your head. Either that or you didn't read it properly. I didn't say that I was incompetent. I said that, given the nature of the work, even professional interpreters make small mistakes (not glaring errors) from time to time. However, due to practice and training, they make far fewer mistakes than those who are inexperienced. When issues arise it's usually because the interpreter is inexperienced and therefore the oral translation is followed up by a more accurate written translation (sometimes produced by the original interpreter themselves as they may be better at written translation than oral translation). The reason written translations tend to be more accurate is because there is more time to carefully analyse the language which is a luxury an interpreter (oral translator) doesn't have. A written translation will always be more accurate than an oral one even if the interpreter is highly skilled, at the top of their game and the best in their field. This is due to the nature of the job itself. Oral translation aims at capturing the overall/general meaning of what is being said as accurately as possible whereas written translation is more precise. It's also a common mistake to presume that because someone may be able to produce excellent written translations that they possess the same level of skill in oral translation but this is a common mistake that people make when choosing an interpreter/translator. In reality, some are better at written translation than oral translation and vice-versa while only a few are highly skilled in both. Like I said: most people don't understand how this industry works and this includes those choosing who to employ for the job. When serious issues arise, it's usually because an inexperienced person was chosen. Choosing the wrong person is a common mistake (the Vatican aren't the only ones to do so). The reason this happens is because, like I said, most think that all you need to be an interpreter is to know two languages fluently. I wonder how you'd go about choosing an interpreter. Let me guess: I'll choose a common scenario. Let's say that you were needing something to be interpreted into Chinese. Most likely, if you had a friend who was fluent in Chinese, you'd ask them to do it/help you out. You'd assume that they would be able to do the job and they might presume that they could too. This is a very common error that a lot of people make when choosing an interpreter and one that I've seen time and time again over the years (this is what I was referring to and not my own alleged/supposed incompetence as you so graciously put it). Now, while for some situations it's crucial that the interpreter be a professional (court/medical/business conferences etc.), in more casual settings it's not. My guess is that, since this was an informal chat with a group of young people, whoever chose the interpreter thought it would be fine. However, since issues arose, the Vatican did what is standard practice: they released a more accurate written translation. Therefore, the Vatican did clear things up it's just that people don't want to accept/believe it. People want to stick to their position: that the original interpretation fully captured what the pope meant as it continues to give people an excuse to be enraged. Anyway, from the tone of your response to me, as well from as the other comments I've read, it appears clear that there are many who aren't interested in trying to properly understand what happened and just want to argue.
I think Pope Francis has always wanted to communicate with people with a 'friendly informal' way like a father guiding his children. That simple and humble way is a joy to see, but it can lead to problems when talking too informally and unprepared about doctrinal matters.
@bhgtree love w/o authority is the spirit of antichrist. This father is feeding us candy for breakfast. G-d, please give us a responsible parent already. Our teeth hurt.
I always see him as speaking to his children at the level they can understand and building them up from there. Not too dissimilar to a school where material is dispensed at appropriate levels, so 2+2= 4 for little ones and then upgrading up to 🥧r^2 radius x 5 for the olders. Everyone is on different levels and even the Church didn’t have a fully realized and intellectually developed understanding of certain things until later. However, the other children don’t consider this view and think EVERYONE should already be at a high learning level even if they have not been given the same time or tools to develop. Ever have those fun “know it alls” in class who think they are so much better than everyone else cause they ace tests and can recite the material perfectly back at the teacher? Yeah, they can get pretty annoying and can make other kids feel belittled and stupid for just “not getting it” when they are genuinely trying to learn the material. Rather than be that know it all that looks down on others, we really should be those student helpers who encourage their peers to keep learning, offer our assistance happily when needed, and respect each other’s differences. I would not want my parents to treat me exactly the same way as they treat my older and younger sibling, I want them to see me as *me* and offer assistance that will help me grow. And I want to extend that same courtesy and respect to my siblings by not assuming my parents speak to them only in the way *I* understand. If the Church is meant to be a family, then we should act like a family. Which means we should recognize our brothers and sisters have different needs and experiences than us, and that the parent(s) will have to treat us differently accordingly. Those who believe everything should be conformed to their sensibilities and are not willing to accept others have different viewpoints do not seem to be practicing the virtues of love and charity.
@@CadyAnBlack no he didn’t 🙄 he told them they were already taking the right steps by showing up to learn and these are the basic ideas we can build off of. Some of this stuff you may have learned at home or picked up along the way, which is good that you are paying attention and have a desire to learn. Let’s continue learning about these topics together, understand what these things mean, how they can relate to our lives, and feel free to ask questions along the way. For those of you ready to move on, please be patient with the rest of the class. If you feel confident explaining this material to others, please feel free to help those in need. Just remember to be kind and patient as you assist, as not everyone thinks the same way as you do and they may need some time to process their way through. Those who know already but aren’t up to tutoring at this time should please continue on working quietly so as not to disrupt others or cause confusion by jumping too far ahead in the lesson plan and overcomplicating the basics. Once everyone is at the level they should be at, we will then move on to the next part and continue from there. There now, CadyAnBlack, wasn’t that much better for everyone involved and more accurately presents how we should evangelize? What’s a better example for a child who wants to learn: -Being told by a teacher that they are too stupid for not understanding the basic concepts right away even though they have no prior knowledge or understanding of what’s being presented? Or -Having the teacher acknowledge they have great potential to learn and they are excited to work with them every step of the way until they understand the topic as well as they need to? The former is how you diminish a child’s enjoyment of the learning process and make them feel like they can never do better because of their current state, which can lead them to never try. The later is how you make that child feel they can learn and they won’t be thought of as lessor for asking questions, which can lead them to develop strong habits that can promote continued learning. I’ve had a mix of those kind of teachers, and was a TA for several semesters at college. The students I taught who I saw make the best progress were those who had even a slight desire to learn and were willing to put in the effort. Since they gave me that, I made sure to help them anyway I could and *never* talked down to them or insulted what they did or did not know. Yes they sometimes asked really stupid and basic questions that they could have picked up in the lab pre-materials and lectures, but me belittling them for their lack of knowledge did nothing but shut down conversation and snowballed into them never wanting to try again. Can’t say I was perfect and patient all the time, but I had a lot of evaluations and students later approaching me and saying “I didn’t like the material and really hated taking this class and lab, but you were really patient with me when I struggled with something and that helped me at least get through everything with a passing grade. Also, I did learn one or two things I thought were really neat or cool because you explained them so well to me and was excited to share. Wish I had you to help me in other subjects.” That’s what Pope Francis is telling us to do. Reach people where they are at, find those points we can agree on, and build them up so they genuinely want to find that fullness of Truth. And they’ll have a desire to find that when they feel they are being respected and loved, not by being belittled and told how terrible they are for not “getting it” by others who don’t know their situations. We are called to spread the Gospel and the Truth, and we are called to do it with *love* and *charity*. If we don’t express that love and charity, then we do the message a disservice and become stumbling blocks for others. Don’t be a stumbling block, be their companion who walks beside them and helps them navigate.
@jendoe9436 False religions aren't early checkpoints on the straight and narrow path; They are the wide way that leads to destruction. Your Luke warm modernist heresy is damning countless souls to an inescapable hell. Get behind me, Satan.
Dr. Broussard deliberately omitted the part where Pope Francis asked "But my God is more important than yours!’ Is this true?" because it contradicts with the narrative he is desperately trying to cling on too. A catholic's answer should be an emphatic Yes. Christ is more important than any god. For a christian to answer any other way is to disregard the very first commandment - "You shall have no other gods before me" Exodus 20:3.
That's the problem when you treat the religion and the office as "mine". It's not mine, it's God's truth. When you think it is yours you are not a steward or a vicar but the lord, and you can change it to your liking.
@@susand3668 You must have missed where Pope Francis doubled down on this heresy yesterday. That’s twice in 5 days he claims all religions lead to God and are a gift from God. Demon worship is not a gift from God.
Romans 2...14For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the prescriptions of the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. 16on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people's hidden works through Christ Jesus. Judgment by the Mosaic Law.
There's been a lot of these statements that lend themselves to misinterpretation during this pontificate. And the most important thing is missing: Clarification.
I think he is intenionally being vague and not clarifying so future theologians can normalize the problematic statements so they can get away with heterortodoxy
The context for every informal, off-the-cuff (as this was) speech by Pope Francis is his formal, Magisterial statements -- where he is completely orthodox. Please also note that what the pope was trying to tell the youngsters was to have courage and to be respectful in their inter-religious dialogues.. In Singapore, there are great restrictions to religious freedom. Before anyone can be converted to Catholicism, they must dialogue. Pope Francis was opening a door, not even close to starting a sales pitch!
@@susand3668 because he weaponizes ambiguity for the sake of aproval, I like him but I cant defend him this statement in particular I can just say: okay the context was this, so in this sense it is something that he should say, for maximum efficiency of menssage of Love, as ler the parable of the samaritan. Other than that I cant
Among other factors is Singapore has the Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act which is as proscriptive as some Canadian or UK legislation on gender ideology, but on what can be perceived as denigration of religion, and foreign religious people have been prosecuted. Also if people want to see a statement made to youth as an un-nuanced blanket affirmation on his part, they should also read his homily in Indonesia (Homily of His Holiness, Gelora Bung Karno Stadium Jakarta, Indonesia, Thursday, 5 September 2024).
Wow! We heard what he said. It was crystal clear. Quiet trying to twist the meaning behind what he said. We as Catholics got his meaning. Doesn't change my faith. Just my trust in him.
Right? He was pretty clear. You can be a Buddhist or a Muslim, and everything would be just as fine. All paths lead to Heaven. We all got it. That type of teaching isn't catholic though. Its freemasonic, satanic, and taught in new age schools. We're fine though right? Yeah, let's all just trust him like Woo hoo. Let's see where that leads too. 🔥🔥🔥
Romans 2..14For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the prescriptions of the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. 16on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people's hidden works through Christ Jesus. Judgment by the Mosaic Law.
"If different paths means they're all 'equal paths' to get to God, and no one is better than the other, well then this would be at odds with Jesus' teaching" -> the pope literally compared the different paths to different languages! So that's exactly what he must have meant, since no language is better than the other, they are just different! This level of popesplaining is getting ridiculous.
Also, the pope or the vatican could have release a clarifying statement like they have done in the past, but this has not been the case. And the next day he said something similar in a video call, so yeah. Time to look reality in the eye.
Quit trying to cover for Jorge Bergoglio. What he meant was glaringly obvious, especially in light of the fact that he refused to make the Sign of the Cross prior to giving a blessing. He has also publicly stated that God WILLS a plurality of religions, which DIRECTLY contradicts the statements which our Lord and Savior made, to wit, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man gets to the Father except by Me." Bergoglio showed his hand YEARS ago, there is NO clarification needed. He meant EXACTLY what it sounded like he said. His signature is on a document which says the same thing. If you cannot bring yourselves to tell the truth rather than making excuses, then I cannot think of any reason to continue to listen to you.
you obviously have not lived in Asia and know what the Catholics experience there, and yes I have, you will not get ONE single convert to Catholicism with this ignorance of the world, especially in the places that have religions much older than ours. They live in countries that have no roots to Christendom that allows us in the West to speak as we do. and his name is Pope Francis, like it or not, the college of cardinals elected him, and if you are Catholic, you dont get to choose what parts of the faith/magesterium you accept because you forgot Jesus' great command to go throughout the world and baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Think for just a moment if you were pope, how would you console these sheep who live as a minority, often a persecuted minority.....it won't be with hitting people over the head with sign of the cross...
Jeremiah 5:30-31 A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: 31 The prophets prophesy lies, the (Priests rule) by their (own authority), and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?
Does intent matter in heresy though? He doubled down the following day and said “ diversity of culture and religion is a gift from God”. I don’t know how that can be interpreted besides pluralism especially with the context of the comments from the day before.
I knew this was going to come down to "invincible ignorance". I have long stated that if an atheist truly philosophically believes that God and gods do not exist. And he is truly being intellectually honest. Then he is being protected by invincible ignorance. At least according to our understanding of Gods relation to humanity here on Earth. Further if such an individual is committing what we as Catholics would regard as a mortal sin, but the atheist has not met the 3 conditions of a mortal sin, then again, he would be protected by invincible ignorance. But here is the bottom line. You can't "game" God. You can deceive others. You can deceive yourself you are deceiving God. But you can't deceive God. I often imagine a conversation like this between an atheist who has passed from this life and God whom he immediately encounters. Atheist: Lord, from the brilliant reasoning mind that You gave me on Earth, I looked at all of the possibilities and to the best of my intellectual ability, I came to the logical conclusion that You did not exist. I had no other reason to hate or reject You. God: I search your soul, and I see this is true, but still you worked evilness in thoughts, words and deeds, that you instinctively _knew_ were evil. And so, you have chosen to self-separate from Me. I love you so much, that I will allow you to do so. My dad, decades ago, told me that the thousands of generations of, _Mayans_ , for example, were protected by invincible ignorance, because no one had made them aware of Jesus Christ. But he also said that, even then, it is perfectly likely to be evil in thought, word and deed, and _know_ that it is evil that you are doing. He said that there were Mayans that went to heaven and Mayans that were cast into hell. What the Holy Mother Church teaches is that the HMC is the only _certain_ path to salvation. I haven't gotten a straight answer if "extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" is still a tenet of the Church. But I know that there are a great many Muslims who believe Christianity is wrong and pray for _our_ souls daily, just like I pray for _their_ souls. I believe they are truly invincibly ignorant.
Yes, "Extra Ecclesium nulla salus" is still a dogma of the Church. You can look it up in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Just that we understand nuances now, that make some of the old formulations less close to the Truth than we had thought, now that we have better clarification from the Holy Spirit. One way to understand these nuances is to say that we have no salvation outside the Church, but God is not so limited. Myself, I think that through our prayers for all sinners and by our receiving the inexhaustible graces in the Sacraments (especially the Eucharist), we, as part of the human race, are -- in a sense -- bringing those "outside" the Church, to the Church (which is the Body of Christ), so that Jesus may fold them into His loving arms. It's a thought, and I have not seen the errors in it.
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic it would be easy to take one part of God's Truth and extrapolate to what we consider the logical conclusion. Yes, the Church is vital to our salvation. But God may know us better than we know ourselves -- someone who is mentally an atheist can be saved by God, through His Church, by means we do not understand. The Church has never declared *who* is in Hell. We do know infallibly that the Saints are in Heaven.
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic I think you are forgetting Romans 1 and Acts 17. There is a reason why the Church has brought out more deeply the teaching of the Freedom of God to save whom He will in this age. The Holy Spirit continues to lead the Church.
Dialogue with Brian Holdsworth 2 days ago Brian: "Dogma is merely teaching from a competent authority. We all accept dogmas in some way in our lives because 99% of what we know has been relayed to us and accepted without first hand verification. To expect everything to be confirmed through experimentation, observation, or high standards of proof would require you to know very very little. That's not courage. That's just a refusal to trust - which is motivated by fear. That's what is cowardly. It takes courage to trust others who are put in a position of authority over you - which is a necessary thing. Parents, teachers, officials, are all necessary and our participation in recognizing their necessary authority is also necessary. Refusing to do so doesn't lead to an increase of freedom. It leads to chaos and disorder. I'm just being consistent in recognizing that necessity and the reconciling myself to finding the kind of authority I can trust. It starts with God and what he has revealed and then it leads to those he has entrusted in seats of authority to protect and transmit what has been revealed. With that, I arrive at dogma and I'm happy to submit to it because that is where true freedom lies - not in the blindness of my own narrow and limited vision of the world - but one expanded by centuries of thinkers all contributing to a shared vision." Dear Brian, Being a follower is fine, but being a blind follower? Not so much. Any dogma automatically turns you into a blind follower. You stop questioning, stop inquiring. We are scientists. Imagine if science was rooted in dogma! We’d still be living in caves, trying to figure out how to make fire. Scientists go out of their way to prove their theories wrong. That’s the attitude of humility. That’s a deeply religious attitude. True science is a profoundly religious enterprise. Don’t seek wisdom in words that are carved in stone. Seek wisdom that’s beyond words. The words of Pope Francis are that kind of wisdom. Your phenomenal intellect can never grasp this, but your warm heart can, and will. We are not Catholics. We are not followers of any dogma-religious or secular. We don’t lean on anything. We stand on our own feet. But it feels good to have Pope Francis, who just pulled the rug from underneath Catholic dogma, on our side. Find the courage to give up the idea that you already have wisdom, that you already possess wisdom-because that’s what dogma is-and seek wisdom in questioning everything, just as Pope Francis does. There is no way to get closer to God than that. In the end, that’s what true religion is-it’s your inquiring open mind. Without it, all scriptures are dead, and all beliefs are just poison. As you know, Jesus questioned everything and relentlessly challenged dogma, perhaps more than anyone else in history! He leveled the dogma of the Old Testament! Ultimately, he was crucified for confronting and demolishing dogma. That’s what true Christianity is: not to sell your soul, creating an agreement reality that can no longer be questioned, no matter how much pain and suffering it causes to millions of people. It’s not sacrificing your conscience and the human dignity of a free thinker, creating this most disgusting invention of the human mind-dogma, the blind conviction that’s at the roots of all human misery and all wars. The sense of purpose and belonging must be derived only from the truth and the truth alone. Or to put it better: from the absence of falsehood, the absence of lies. We grew up in communist Russia and theocratic Iran, in societies devastated by dogma. But there is no difference between communist dogma, religious dogma, or atheistic dogma. All of them are just different forms of idol worshiping. The problem with dogma is not its content, but its existence. “Sabbath for men, not men for Sabbath.” That’s the essential message of Jesus. This now is the message of the brave and unyielding Pope Francis. The message is: Beliefs are what you die for. Faith is what you live for. We pray that he won’t be crucified for it like Jesus was.
Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life; and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.” - John 6:68-69
The Pope's statement that all religions seek the path to God aligns well with WISDOM 13:6-7, which says, "Small blame, however, attaches to them, for perhaps they go astray only in their search for God and their eagerness to find him; familiar with his works, they investigate them and fall victim to appearances, seeing so much beauty." This verse emphasizes that while people in various religions search for God, many lose their way because they lack proper guidance. Every religion involves a quest for the Divine, but without true guidance, people may stray down unfamiliar paths. Therefore, recognizing the truth and following the right guidance is essential to reach the ONE TRUE GOD.
I disagree with Dr. Karlo's assessment. When taken into context the previous confusing actions taken by Pope Francis, like the pachamama incident, the Abu Dhabi document, the revision of the 2021 document on the blessing of gay unions, etc., I think this is just another example of his controversial statements that demand clarification, but, which we'll probably never get. It serves only to cause division which seems to be the way of the world these days in politics, science and social norms.
The "pachamama" incident has been totally debunked -- the video of the ceremony clearly catches the words the woman said to the pope as she handed him one of the statuettes. "Our Lady of the Amazon" she said. I agree, it is not my idea of our Blessed Mother, but it is certainly nothing like an image of the smiling mountain goddess (not even a goddess of the Amazon area, which has no mountains) who tempts people by offering abundant fruits. Please stop listening to the pope-blamers. They are not following the Lord's command -- as St. Paul said in Acts 23:5 “...it is written: ‘Do not speak evil [about the] ruler of your people.’” (Bible Hub, Parallel Study Bible)
Thank you Karlo for implementing the CCC# 2478 as all good Catholics should do. Pope Francis did not say or imply that "all religions are pretty much the same" like some people claim. Actually, Pope Francis' words go in line with what Pope Benedict XVI has already taught: "The journey of religions, _this quest for God in different ways_ - even if they are mistaken, but always seeking God - is assumed in the sacrament. The other religions, with their journey to God, are present and are assumed.." - (Pope Benedict XVI - Lectio Divina, June 11, 2012). Also, regarding interreligious dialogue: "In man’s present situation, the dialogue of religions is a necessary condition for peace in the world and it is therefore a duty for Christians as well as other religious communities. This dialogue of religions has various dimensions. In the first place it is simply a dialogue of life, a dialogue of being together. _This will not involve discussing the great themes of faith_ - whether God is Trinitarian or how the inspiration of the sacred Scriptures is to be understood, and so on. It is about the concrete problems of coexistence and shared responsibility for society, for the state, for humanity. In the process, it is necessary to learn to accept the other in his otherness and the otherness of his thinking. To this end, the shared responsibility for justice and peace must become the guiding principle of the conversation. A dialogue about peace and justice is bound to move beyond the purely pragmatic to become an ethical struggle for the truth and for the human being: a dialogue concerning the values that come before everything. In this way what began as a purely practical dialogue becomes a quest for the right way to live as a human being. Even if the fundamental choices themselves are not under discussion, the search for an answer to a specific question becomes a process in which, through listening to the other, both sides can obtain purification and enrichment. Thus this search can also mean taking common steps towards the one truth, even if the fundamental choices remain unaltered." - (Pope Benedict XVI - Address to the Roman Curia, December 21, 2012). For in-depth information I recommend reading the book: "Truth and Tolerance: Christian Belief and World Religions" - Ratzinger, J. Ignatius Press, 2004 - especially pgs 44, 205, 263.
Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
He is from liberation theology...which uses this kind of language, which has practically undermined the Church in south america..not to mention the oachamama "incident".. And he said we cannot say "my religion is better than yours."
You guys have to be in your own little world, he made it clear, comparing different religions to different languages and even claimed that different religions are a gift from God. This is blasphemy and treason against Christ and His church.
Pope Francis urged youth from various religions to take risks beyond their own faith and engage in dialogue with Catholics. These young people, showing respect, even acknowledged him as the Holy Father-more than can be said for some Catholics today.
Francis affirmed bluntly, “Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio“. This was immediately rendered accurately by the translator at his side, who said loudly and clearly, “All religions are a pathway to arrive at God”. No hint of any nuance or qualification there. The word "Way" means: 1) a method, style - 2) a road, track, path So "A Way to your house or a Path to your house" will still get me to your house. Jimmy is splitting hairs. The Pope said "All religions are a PATHWAY to ARRIVE at God".
No servant is greater than his master! If Jesus was misinterpreted many times by the Jews in His time like when he said "Whoever eats my flesh and drink my blood will certainly have eternal life", they accused Him of cannibalism! and also when He said before Abraham was, I am! Then they laughed at Him and said He was no more than 50 years old and they wanted to throw stones at Him. My point is If you are the pope and no one criticizes you, then you better be worry!
Respectfully, I believe that it’s not about what he tried to say, but what he actually said and how it was interpreted. As the Pope, he influences millions of people. He should be very careful in what he expresses and never leave room for confusion.
You are a Protestant because you are disobedient and have made disobedience your god - just as Adam and Eve had done. …”when we love the Pope, there are no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go…we do not say that he has not spoken clearly enough, almost as if he were forced to repeat to the ear of each one the will …” -Pope St. Pius X “The devil can imitate humility but he cannot imitate obedience.” - St. Faustina
The Catholic Church preserved, compiled, translated, chose the books to include and declared the Bible canon in 382 under Pope Damasus at the Council of Rome. Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible but He did leave us a church (Matthew 16:18). Every Catholic essentially reads the entire bible (OT & NT) every 5yrs at Sunday Mass. ”Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.” -2 Thessalonians 2:15 NAB ”Wherever the bishop shall appear, there, let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the *Catholic Church.* “ (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Chapter 8) -St. Ignatius of Antioch, 107 AD
@@G-MIP Oh yes, and look at how far the Catholic (Universal) Church has fallen since the days of the Early Church Fathers. The establishment of "traditions" that are not Biblical and do not trace to the Early Church. And now this a blasphemy by the pope himself, in which his followers must blindly agree to, as in a cult.
@@G-MIP A number of your assertions are false - the 'Catholic' Church didn't preserve, compile or choose the books to be included. They were in wide circulation and almost all accepted by means of their authorship and consistent voice well before the end of the second century (see the Muritorian Canon). 2 Thessalonians is a call to orthodoxy and unity, but that doesn't necessarily mean the 'Catholic' Church as you would define it: everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved - that is the definition of the catholic church, and those individuals make up the body of Christ from across numerous streams of orthodox Christian groups. We are not of Paul or Apollos, we are of Christ - thus, we are not of Pope Francis or any other, but rather we are of Christ, and this current Pope is demonstrating at times how little he regards the revealed truth of God found in Scripture or the revealed exclusivity of Jesus Christ as the only way.
…”when we love the Pope, there are no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go…we do not say that he has not spoken clearly enough, almost as if he were forced to repeat to the ear of each one the will …” -Pope St. Pius X
The pope DIDN’T say that salvation can be achieved without faith in Jesus and outside the Catholic Church. He only expressed his personal opinion (out of Ex Cathedra) that all religions lead to God. And in a certain way it is true, once all religions talk about God, preach the good, mercy, forgiveness, humility, justice and charity. And we know that God does not make distinction of people. The pope also said that "God is God of ALL", which is totally in consonance with Scripture.
CCC actually says all people seek knowledge of God through religions, that they know there is more to life than just existence. They just haven’t found the truth of the gospel yet through no fault of their own.
The catolic vicar in my town wrote that pope Francis is an ordeal to all of us who love the Lord and that he will have to answer on the day of judgement. I am a very catolic-friendly protestant who respect the catolic priests of our town who I think have the Holy Spirits help when preaching, and I gladly visit their church. I believe the statement by the pope has harmed RCC and christianity as a whole. POpe Francis may be personally symphathetic person, but I beleive he made a mistake.
@@barelyprotestant5365 I congratulate you of having the God-given gift of knowing what is in the mind and heart of the Pope when he expressed his views concerning this matter.
@@JusticeLeague-o8m I think he or she is just expressing their common sense understanding of the popes statements. It's frustrating to us prots too believe it or not because in my view, all of Christendom has been infiltrated it seems like. Small little changes or statements change drastically in a century or two
@@JusticeLeague-o8m How do you know what is in @barelyprotestant5365's mind and heart? How come you have judged him so harshly with your criticism. Despite his words, he could have, in his heart and mind, been actually praising the Pope and declaring him the greatest Pope ever. Why are you judging?
A compilation of statements by Pope Francis on Jesus being the only way to salvation: 1. Homily, Casa Santa Marta, November 4, 2016: "There is no other way. Jesus is the door. It is a door that does not deceive. It is a door that does not make us do wrong. Whoever enters through Jesus will be saved. He will go in and out and find pasture." 2. General Audience, May 15, 2013: "Jesus is the only way to heaven; to know Him, and to follow Him, is to walk on the way of salvation." 3. Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel), 2013, Paragraph 14: "No one is saved by his or her own efforts or works. Rather, we are saved by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ."
What heresy? Please have faith in our Pope. Don't be decieved by the media, many of them are Freemasons trying to destroy the Church. Don't follow them.
@Joe-uw5rv Unconditional universal love, the willingness to suffer for others out of a genuine longing for their happiness. Francis has this. He just doesn't believe that folks who are decent by human standards should go to hell. This is the spirit of Antichrist. It has poisoned our church.
@@JusticeLeague-o8m Francis worships a god who loves unconditionally, who offers grace to sinners who openly refuse Christ, and who probably doesn't let anybody go to hell. This is the spirit of antichrist. It is deeply seductive, but we must hold fast to the certain knowledge that hell is real, that almost everyone goes there, and that only the name of the Son of God can save us. Our lady of Fatima, pray for us, especially those most in need of His mercy.
Well.. he's ROMAN Catholic. Emphasis on Rome. So he stands for Rome and his own self interests not the Bible and God. SOLA SCRIPTURA BIBLE AND GOD ALONE AMEN
A lousy teacher is one who just goes on saying what he wants without caring if he was understood correctly. An unethical teacher is one who goes on saying what he wants KNOWING that he will likely be UNDERSTOOD INCORRECTLY.
Nope. The Vatican issued a cleaned up version. .... Pope Francis told them to fix it and change it back to what he originally said. Now ... try to explain that away.
there's people who convert into Catholicism from their previous faith because their previous faith lead them to Christ, i mean God can works in mysterious ways according to His wisdom, why should we limit a limitless God?
I am from rural area Malaysia, I agree to this and I believe only Catholic will understand. This is only for those who are seeking a religion, and from that it will lead to seeking God, and from that, if they truly seeking for a God, they will try to find a true God and true religion. This had been in my thaughts since I met with many people with no believes or trying to find a true God.
Thank you. Let's pray for Pope Francis so that he keeps serving the Lord as he has being doing, specially as his vicar. Also, let's pray that we all learn to listen him in a charitable way, for he is the one our Lord has given us now.
Who is this Lord you are talking about? I ask because Francis hasn't been serving Jesus Christ. He's been serving the devil. And he's been doing a pretty good job at it, with all of the souls he is sending to hell by preaching heresies.
@@soldierofmary984 Absolutely. It is a great service to the Body of Christ, to point out the heretics so that others do not fall into hell, following their heresies. In fact, its one of the greatest forms of service. "It is true charity to point out the wolf wheresoever he creeps in among the flock" ~St. Francis de Sales (Introduction to the Devout Life, Part III, Chapter XXIX). Bergoglio is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Scripture warned us about this type of deceivers, which would be in our own church. And it is about time you wake up to realize that fact. That is, if you care about your salvation and those close to you. Otherwise, feel free to believe all religions are paths to god as he teaches. In which case, why be a Catholic? Buddhism is much easier to follow, there's no requirement to go to Church on Sundays.
@@Meroknight of course, he is the Pope. He could be better or worse according to our standards, but he still is. Could we want him to be more precise when he talks spontaniously? Yes, but that doesn't mean that he is not serving God at his capacity. Being charitable with him and trying to understand the orthodoxy of his words helps me a great deal to see that. Let's pray for him that he might see God face to face in Heaven.
From thee CCC: 843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life." Other religions only have hints of the truth, can only prepare for the Gospel - and it's only the Gospel that saves. So other religions are not paths to God, there is only one path to God - the Catholic Church. Other religions may prepare people to walk down this path - but so does studying nature, or ancient philosophy, or having a tragedy occur in the family. It's semantics, but it's important to clarify.
@@rexgloriae316 as per MY experience and life story, protestantism (prosperity gospel) was my path to the Catholic Church, hence to God. Im quite sure its God's grace that led me to that process. And I cooperated...
@@Slit-dl6gl I am not doubting that. I also converted as an adult. But for me a path is one that you continue down, its a way, a road. In other words, if you continued down the path of prosperity gospel, would you find God? I think that's the issue with this language. The Catechism is precise - it says other religions prepare us. For me my upbringing, the faith of my parents, studying philosophy were not paths to God but were preparations for me to walk down the One True Path - the Way, the Truth and the Life. Anyway, I am glad you came home brother.
@@rexgloriae316 issue on semantics, i think? Protestantism is "portion" of my path to God. It is not that i started as protestant then converted to catholicism. Im born, baptized and raised Catholic from 1y/o to 30s, abandoned the faith in my 30s, then returned to the Catholic Church in my mid 40s. I started in Catholic faith, left it and saw its true meaning outside of it, then returned to it. This is the reason why I believe that my stint as a protestant, is portion of my path to God. Its good thing im not a theologean, coz we are not bound by strict theological semantics and nuances. I believe that all false religion is a path towards the true religion (Catholic faith) which leads man to God. But this is only true if the person will continuously seek the truth which path leads to Catholic Church, the doorway to God and salvation. I hope this makes sense
Everyone is still confused - nowhere in the Catechism or in any other teaching does it say that different religions are paths to God. The Church teaches that many religions have elements of the truth, that doesn't mean that the religions themselves are a path to heaven.
What pope francis said, either wrong or correct should not make us catholic discourage our faith instead leading us to dive more to the teaching of the church. God makes perfect His plan through the imperfect man.. Let us slow to anger and judge but quick to love and forgive..
you guys should dive into the Holy Bible instead once for a change so you would not be led astray so easily by all kinds of false teachings and herecies
@@szocsdaniel We gave you your Bible. And we've had much worse popes than this one. The deposit of faith survives until his return. Go peddle your heresies somewhere else.
My reflection: Pope Francis also focused about the mercy of God to all mankind. According to some mystics, there are also souls in Purgatory who were not Catholics but pagans and other Christian denominations. The sufferings of the pagans are lighter than of the Catholics.
I think our Pope is a Christian Mystic and he speaks in a poetic language of the heart that needs to be interpreted not in a strictly literal sense. He understands that God knows the contents and intentions of every human heart.
Our lord said “Let your yes be yes and your no be no. Everything else is of the devil” if there’s a young person who is thinking of converting and they hear the pope’s words what outcome do you think it’ll have? Definitely not of conversion. Our lord said “Go into all the nations and baptize them in the name of The Father and of The Son and of the Holy Ghost. He who believes and is baptized will be saved. He who does not believe will be condemned.” Notice he didn’t say “oh just let people remain in their own religions, all religions are paths to the father!”
@@DR-nw3jn Fundamentalism is stifling and dangerous. A young person hearing the Pope's words would ask question and they will hopefully be given the correct explanation. It's utter stupidity to take everything literally and at face value. That's why the young require guidance. Nothing worthwhile comes easy. Have some respect. The Pope is in the position he is in for good reason. He is no dummy. You're a desperado clasping at things way out of context. Have some discernment. Retreat in prayer and contemplation before attempting to remove the splinter from the eyes of those clearly greater than you.
I don’t know man. What good is it to speak poetically if it leads to disharmony in the body of Christ. And in all honesty it doesn’t seem to foster any sort of repentance or seeking out the truth that is found in Jesus alone as the way to God. With the Popes talk, I can only see an encouragement to those young people to continue in their own religious paths, because it’s a “different language” for the same God. Paul was gracious with the Roman’s but he was VERY clear at the same time. The gospel and exclusivity of Christ is offensive.
@@polodown4729 Well this reminds me of the reason why I'm protestant. The body of Christ must be able to judge it's own members; consequently, no one should be considered an infallible authority. You see I'm not shocked by my pastor making wrong statements because I know that he's only human. Holding that the pope is beyond judgement is the doctrine that puts Catholics in a weird situation every time Pope Francis makes controversial statements that plainly contradict Catholic teaching
Thank you for this response to Pope Francis remarks on other religions. I’m currently in RCIA. Myself and my family are on full on transition mode to the Catholic Church from an evangelical Pentecostal church. This was explained well! God bless your ministry!
just because you dont understand him, does not mean he was not thinking, the man is a Jesuit, they are always thinking and probably lights years beyond you
@@raymondsmith5197 I don’t understand you and you don’t understand me and we both don’t understand the pope My main concern here is what Pope Francis didn’t say and I don’t hear any clergy say or Vatican is that Jesus is God The pope has the opportunity to tell the world Jesus is God and to dialogue with the inter faith community and tell them Jesus is God and the children of the world Jesus is God
If all religions were paths to God, then the Pope would have to explain why God told the Israelites not to be like the people around them who worshiped Baal, Ishtar, and Molech.
It's Pope Francis' ambiguity on statements, informal or otherwise, throughout his pontificate, that have been so frustrating for a lot of Catholics. Knowing this current issue has caused such an uproar, one would think Francis or the Vatican would clarify the statement to put peoples' minds at ease.
If you knew catholic theology you wouldn't be frustrated. Why not take each surprising statement and delve into them to penetrate to a deeper, truer, understanding of your faith. BTW - what Pope Francis is teaching in this instance has been the taught for centuries and even in the second century by the well respected Rabbi Meir!
@@robertdobbs2283 Sorry, but even Catholic theologians have expressed frustration over Pope Francis' ambiguous statements throughout his pontificate. Some believe Francis does this intentionally.
@@bryanjones8778"This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience-those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)
I am grateful that Mr. Jimmy Akin explained this controversy so well in the Catholic Answer 20 Sept 2024 PODCAST. And thank you also, Mr. Karlo Broussard. ❤
This is getting quite spooky. It appears to me that the fix is in. No matter what is said nor how clearly it is said, there will be this manipulation between words and intention, as if that were the primary issue. God bless these poor men. Both corroborated on how they have, at times, misspoken. Presumably, this was meant to comfort their listeners. But here is the issue: even letting aside the clearly erroneous statement on how all the religions are paths to God (and not a single one can tell the other "I'm better"), if and when Karlo or Cy Kellet ever did misspeak, I am 100% certain (being the good men that they are), they quickly clarified for whoever may have taken their words in the worst possible way. And yet, for the Pope, it is almost taken as a granted virtue that he will be silent. And therefore we should expect to hear nothing.
There was no point at which the Pope said, or even implied, that all religions are equal. To say the different religions are paths to the same God is not to say all those paths are equal. The 'traditionalists" who are deliberately distorting the Pope's words, to suit their own partisan agendas, need to go back to church documents such as Nostra Aetate and Lumem Gentium which explore the relationship between Catholicism and other religions, recognise the commonalities, and clearly express the reality that there are indeed elements of truth in all religions.
Why do jesus need to die on the cross if "other religions have an element of truth" or in the popes words "a path to God"? No Jesus, no path to God. John 14:6 is crystal clear on this!
@@lepsena8089 No Jesus = no path. True. But equally true that no path construction worker = no path. Yes? Do I need to personally know the construction worker in order to walk on the path he paved for me?
@@kierinmurphy9795 According to John 14:6, yes you need to know the one who constructed the path because the path itself is him. You can't walk on it without knowing him. Meaning the path and the maker are inseparable. "I AM THE WAY and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
I Agree with Karlo. In the first place, Pope Francis NEVER said that ‘all religions are equal’ nor that ‘all religions are equal paths to God.’ From his inter-religious with youths in Singapore, this is the verbatim translation from his priest / translator: “All religion is a way to arrive at God … Different religions, in comparison and by way of an example, is sort of like a different language to arrive at God. But God is God for all. And if God is God for all, then we are all sons & daughters of God. There is only one God, and each of us is a different language so to speak in order to arrive at God. There are different paths.” Pope Francis NEVER said nor implied that different religions are equal paths to God. In no uncertain terms he was advocating that “there are different paths.” And that “there is only one God” and “God is God for all.” In my opinion this is consistent with Lumen Gentium 16 - which teaches that there are different paths to Salvation - even for those who may not believe in Jesus (to Karlo’s point). The parable of the Good Samaritan also shed similar light when a scribe asked Jesus how can he have eternal life? Jesus proceeded to tell him the parable of the Good Samaritan … A priest and a Levite, both know the Law well, saw a victim in distressed but walked in the opposite direction whereas a Samaritan stopped and attended to the victim until he is healed. Jesus said to the scribe “Go and do the same.“ The Samaritan worshiped a faith considered heretic, and ‘ritually impure’ by the first century Jews, yet he is the one who understands and practices the true heart of the Law. This parable illustrates to me that while the Samaritan whose religion may not have the fullness in truth as the Jews, ie. It is of a different path than the Jews, yet his love for his ‘hostile’ neighbor can lead to the One True God or eternal life. When we don’t take the Pope’s word out of context and if we don’t get lost in translation, it seems to this unworthy believer that what the Pope said is consistent with the Church and Sacred Scripture. My 2 cents … and God Bless. 🙏🏽
Q. How many ways are there to God? A. As many as there are people.” This exchange is found in Peter Seewald’s 1997 book-length interview with then-Cardinal Ratzinger, Salt of the Earth: The Church at the End of the Millennium (p. 32).
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic Amen. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day” (CCC 841).
No, that is not what the pope said to do. He was telling an iner-relious group of young people to be courageous as well as respectful, and engage in honest religious dialogue. Don't YOU believe in the Truth of the Catholic Church? I assume the answer is "yes." Then why not be like the pope in his brief stay in Singapore, and tell young people to be open to what God will teach them as they look beyond the good (of which there is some in every religion -- I do not consider Satanism to be a religion, as Satanists claim it is not ) to the One Good God for Whom everyone longs? Only ONe God can fill the God-shaped hole in our hearts. And He will teach the youth in Singapore, if they will listen.
@susand3668 Sorry, I never heard PB saying be opened to God was theaching them. Pls do not put words that were never said. And Satanism is considered a religion. It even clams tax exemptions in the USA. If you do not consider it a religion is just your personal opinion.
@@carlosnoyola2054you're telling someone not to put words in the Pope's mouth meanwhile you're doing just that. The Pope clearly mentioned the religions in the end. So if you like include satanists but the Pope never said that
If what the pope said was even remotely true then why do so many people leave their old religions and put their faith in Christ? You had it right the first time Jesus is the only way. What the pope said was heresy. This isn’t the first time the boat has been charged with being a heretic.
Catholics keep reading your bible and keep following God and never think that Satan is equal to God and there is only 1 God but not everyone worships the same God.Some people follow Satan or demons or djinns or anything dark that has to do with Satan,thats not God.Keep following your own God Catholics, follow the bible,never follow Satan or the Anti Christ.There is only 1 God but not all religions are the same and not all religions are right and not all religions follow God
I respect the Pope as much as I respect priests, other religious, and the bishops and cardinals. I take everything he says with a grain of salt and see what happens next.
In Mass today. Our Preist actually talked about what the Pope said. He said this "Universal Christ." How people who go to Mass also have Buddas and do hindu prayers is fine. Because all religions are leading to God. This goes against what the Church teaches. Mosses smashed the 10 commandments because the israelites made a idol. He had them put inside a golden bull and killed in there. Jesus says "No one comes to the father except through me." Our Preist then mentions those who do no believe in God but live a Christian life can also be saved. Yet Jesus clearly states "Deny me, and I will deny you to the father." I know the Catholic Church is the True Church. I know their teachings are correct. People can be fallible and my Preist today most probably was, we have to stay united.
Didn't he say it in English when his native language is Spanish? I was raised multi-lingual and always make slips. Don't ask about the time I told grandma we couldn't visit because one of the kids just got shots. **shudder**
Should also ask the opinions of the Singaporean, Indonesian, Malaysian, Bruneian, Timor-lestre ,m and Papua NG. Pope Knew what we have gone through over the years. Fighting, killing, Churches, temples burning due to religious conflict.
@@wantok8117 in the minds of Western Catholics, they shouldn’t complain as any persecution made against Catholics in those parts of the world should be taken with stride as that leads them on the path to martyrdom. No matter how many people are killed and hurt, no matter if all the schools and hospitals and orphanages and charities run by Catholics have to be closed because they are gone, no matter how much the innocent laymen suffer, and if there are no priests to administer sacraments because they were either killed or driven out, it doesn’t matter to those Catholics outside of SE Asia cause they can cheer on the persecuted for “living and dying for the faith!” while they sit conformably in their homes in other parts of the world where religious freedom is more tolerate. I legit saw people criticizing someone from Indonesia about being grateful for Pope Francis’s speech as it cooled a lot of tensions among the faith groups. They claimed the OP was supporting a heretical Pope, that they should be ashamed for appreciating the reprieve from violence, and that the Pope should have “placed the truth of the Gospel” over ‘being nice with other religions.’ I supported the best I could by pointing out how us outside of that area can’t understand what our brothers and sisters are going through over there and that Pope Francis’s words seemed to have done a lot of good. Of course, the attackers then accused me of “denying the faith” and how me and people with my opinion were a “disgrace” to the martyrs of the Church and that we weren’t “true” members of the faith 🙄 Fortunately the OP remained steadfast in their gratefulness for peace and wasn’t going to let themselves be pushed around by keyboard Catholic warriors. I too am glad there was some moment of peace for everyone, as it’s through love and charity that will ultimately lead souls to Christ. Having had discussions with friends and peers of varying faiths and backgrounds, I’ve come to understand just how much more of an impact I have when I live out my faith joyfully and authentically than by quoting documents at them and letting combative emotions fly around.
I actually agree with Karlo on this. This is exactly how I understood the comments when I first heard them, and still do.
The pope has a focus on evangelizing. He is trying to open the hearts of people to Christ so they can be brought down the path to Catholicism. You don't do this by insulting their religions and brow beating them.
And, yes, I do believe that most people who are venturing down a spiritual path are seeking God. Just because it's not 100% the best path doesn't mean that it's not a path. And we've seen over and over again how people will turn onto the right path at some point as they discover who God is.
Do not participate in hardening their hearts by criticizing the pope every step of the way. I am confident that he has converted more hearts to Christ than you have.
No one is attracted by dumbed down, diluted Catholicism, absolutely no one, that is why we have a worldwide loss of faith and religious vocations since Vatican II took place, and also why the devout Catholic youth of today is overwhelmingly traditional. Furthermore, it's ridiculous to try to convert people by preaching heresy and ambiguity to them, that's called lying and blaspheming the faith that Christ gave us.
In all these years, the Pope hasn't converted a single person, all he has done is dumb down the faith, create confusion, lead many faithful Catholics outside of the Church and persecute and dismantle the traditions of the Church. He says this heretical weirdness, while Christ said that the only way is through Him alone and that many WILL NOT be saved.
Worst pope in the history of the Catholic Church.
Amen
Absolutely correct
Also he was talking to non-Christians. If he said to them "My faith is superior to yours" - dialogue ends there on a spot. Pope said so many beautiful things during his last voyage to Indonesia about bettering our lives and we are only talking about one sentence directed to non-Christians.
Amen. Agreed 💯
I agree with Trent Horn. Pope Francis needs to issue a clarification. Because if he doesn't, people have every right to be confused by what he said.
I honestly don't understand the need for clarity.
I am a post Pentecostal Protestant in the process of converting to Catholic.
I read this today...
Seems clear to me...
CCC843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life.
@@JewelyAnne No you got that wrong.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) 843 emphasizes the Church's recognition of truth and goodness in other religions. However, this does not negate the belief that Jesus is the only way to God within Catholic teaching. Here's how these ideas are reconciled:
Jesus as the Unique Mediator: The Catholic Church teaches that Jesus Christ is the unique and definitive mediator between God and humanity (see CCC 480 and CCC 620). This belief remains central to Catholic faith.
Recognition of Truth in Other Religions: CCC 843 highlights that while the Church acknowledges the presence of truth and goodness in other faiths, this does not imply that these paths lead to salvation outside of Christ. Rather, the Church views these elements as preparations for the full revelation found in Jesus.
Salvation Through Christ: The Church maintains that salvation ultimately comes through Christ alone. While God’s grace can operate in mysterious ways, the fullness of truth is found in the teachings of Jesus and the Church.
@@JewelyAnne In other religions does not mean ALL other religions. BIG DIFFERENCE!
He won't issue any clarification. He hasn't for other heresies he has uttered. That would go against the agenda of wrecking the church. That would go against his personal objectives.
@@victoriaeinbinder9487 Remember when the Olympics utterly spat in Christ's face with one of the most heinous displays ever? And we all waited and waited and waited for Francis to defend our Lord. It took the Muslim president of Turkey to provoke a tepid, limp wristed response from Rome.
What is worst than pope Francis making those comments is Catholics trying to defend it. It's indefensible and he meant exactly what everyone is afraid of for two reasons:
1. The context: He was talking to Hindus and Muslims and there's no way they would have a concept of the second meaning of what he said. All those Hindus there left that place knowing that they can reach the same God through their religion
2. The specifics: Pope Francis specifically made it clear that the God of the Christians is not better than those of other religion in attempt to dismiss any option for thinking that the Christian way was "the only right path".
Catholics ought to be honest to themselves about the views of the man they see as the vicar of Christ for what it is.
Exactly. I am getting really tired of the mental gymnastics performed to justify the Pope’s frequent heretical statements. I’m so fed up with it.
The Successor of Peter (the Prince of the Apostles) remains the Vicar of Christ regardless of how well he does his job. We also know that the Vicar of Christ will never speak wrongly when he speaks ex cathedra. The miraculous 2000 years old history of the Church is the proof of Christ's pledge that the gates of hell shall never prevail, despite the boat of Peter: the Church Militant having been continuously shaken by internal corruption, schisms, and heretics of all kinds.
Agree with you. I don't think Pope Francis' comments are defensible.
Catholic Answers is giving me a bad impression after defending Pope Francis again and again.
@@parleremilian6879 By the way, did you know that the expression 'Vicar of Christ' is fairly recent in Church history?
For the longest time, the Pope was known as the Vicar of PETER - not CHRIST...
@@superapex2128 The term Vicar of Christ might be more recent than the times when God walked on this earth, but just as the words Most Holy Trinity, Mother of God, Transubstantiation, and social kingship of Christ (in opposition to separation of Church and state by the false liberal/free-masonic ideology), it expresses in a concise way what has always been held by the Apostolic Faith and it's either implicit or explicit in the Gospel (put together the Holy Catholic Church) or it has always been part of the Tradition of the Mystical Body of Christ passed on by the Saints.
The Gospel (assembled by the Catholic Church) is even explicit in saying that Saint Peter is truly the one to whom God entrusted the keys of His kingdom and the power to bind and loose on earth, as well as personally commanding him to feed His sheeps 3 times. Just as it explicitly states that the Eucharist is truly His Flesh - as scientifically studied Eucharistic miracles also prove to confirm our Faith.
God did not establish a bunch of sects at odds with each other, whose end result is to make Truth relative (indeed liberalism is the bastard son of protestantism), nor did He establish a bunch of de facto state churches at war with each other and defined along ethnic lines as eastern "orthodoxs".
But He establised His one visible and Universal Church founded on the Apostles, and giving the keys of His Kingdom to the Prince of the Apostles: Saint Peter. This Church is the extention of the Incarnation throughout space time, and speaks infallibly in matters of doctrine, it allows us to participate in the Calvary Sacrifice (the Mass) and grants us the Sacraments to enable us to live the life of grace. Even protestant who are invincibly ignorant but do their best to follow the Commandments, made perfect act of contrition for the mortal sin they commited (which isn't easy), and correspond to whatever grace God gives them to be saved, they are alive but invisible members of the Catholic Church. Indeed every human being that receives baptism, even baptism of desire, becomes a member of this Mystical Body of Christ. But unfortunately Catholics and invisible members of the Church who received valid baptism, as soon as they commit their first mortal sin (which could be a formal act of heresy or schism) they become dead members of the Church of Jesus Christ.
The members of the Church become saints by the measure with which we unite ourselves to this infinite source of sanctity that is the Mystical Body Christ: the Catholic Church.
Jesus said, "I am the way, The Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except througj me."
The Pope said, "Nah. All religions are paths to God."
Jesus died for you.
The Pope still needs a Saviour.
@@readmails3033 Jeremiah 5:30-31
A horrible and shocking thing
has happened in the land:
31 The prophets prophesy lies,
the (Priests rule) by their (own authority),
and my people love it this way.
But what will you do in the end?
You contradicted yourself.
@@Kitiwake how so?
He is not the pope. Why cant you see that?
No, he did not say that. Pope Francis has said many times, both before and after this comment to encourage inter-religious dialog (for the sake of peace) that Jesus is the One and Only Savior,
Try not to hyperventilate about poorly worded comments from a man who has given his life to God and is spending his tie in serving the Church by traveling to the ends of the earth to preach the Gospel -- which he did at Mass before his meeting with this group who are seeking peace through dialog.
Your explanation is even more confusing than what the Pope said. For a start not all religions even worship the same deity.
There is only one God. The idea is that other religions are attempting to worship the One True God, whatever they may wrongly call Him or however they may wrongly worship Him. It’s still an attempt. And as Christians, knowing the true path to the One True God, being Jesus, we need to be kind and honor that pursuit of others and not denigrate it, because that opens the door for evangelization.
@@joshuajohnson7183 You should loving rather than nice and tell people the full Truth about Jesus Christ.
That’s the goal. That’s what I meant when I said it opens the door for evangelization.
It's not confusing at all once you understand the full context, Conciliar documents from the Church, and previous statements from Pope Francis as well as John Paul and Benedict. All you have to do is read Lumen Gentium to find out what he meant. He's stated before on many, many occasions that "Jesus is the only door" to Salvation. Poorly phrased? Perhaps. Unitarian? Resoundingly not.
@@jonathandnicholson I am Catholic and I approve of your message.
I simply wish Pope Francis would occasionally say something that makes non-Christians consider the possible need for repentance and conversion instead of putting the rest of us on the back foot to explain to them that they’re not really hearing what they think they hear.
As a protestant, we would never evangelize through compromising fundamental Truths of Christendom
@@ottovonappsIf we were to do that we would be evangelising heresy and not Christianity. A lost man cannot give directions to a fellow that is also lost.
@@fij715 secondly, at least prots have churches that aren't heretical like your whole church clearly by your "daddy's" words!
Pope Francis is constantly calling people to conversion. If the news you listen to doesn't tell you that, you ought to find better news sources.
@@ottovonappsProtestantism has been doing that for about 5 centuries my friend
Sorry, no. There is no ambiguity. Most of the people in Singapore speak English, that is why you had an English interpreter, and he spoke very clearly. Nor did the Vatican reinterpret or give a more clear explanation, not this time. Here is part of the original video, "Every religion is a way to arrive at God. There are different languages to arrive at God but God is God for all. But my god is more important than your god, is that true? There is only one God, and each has a language to arrive at God. Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, they are all different paths." What is unclear to you?
It literally couldn’t be more clear, but that won’t stop Catholic Answers from performing their mental gymnastics.
Is it the fault of the Bible that there are now 50,000 Protestant interpretations? Same thing here, it’s not the Pope’s fault, but it’s the interpreter’s fault.
What this tells me is that 'Catholic' answers is not Catholic at all.
I mean this is pretty basic stuff...
If you can't even get that right, why be in this business at all?!?
I do agree with you and i am muslim.
@cecquela Assuming you're a Catholic, doesn't comparing Catholicism and Protestantism in this way undermine most of the arguments against Protestantism?
The Pope literally said Christian, Muslim, Hindoo..etc. are different paths to arrive at God. This is pluralism. Period
you forgot st paul who when challenged about eating meat to other "gods" said if there is only one God, then any meat you eat offered to any god is still offered to the one God....if we believe there is only one God, then others seeking God are still seeking God. Our path is way clearer for sure, and we are linked DIRECTLY to God the Father (and the Son and the Holy SPirit) but many of them (he did not say all) are on the path. Please dont forget that we have a Eucharistic Prayer that mentions we pray for those who seek God with a sincere heart....it is in our most sacred rite
@@raymondsmith5197 what? Paul never said like you did... 1 cor 10 right? Which verse you are using?
@@lakilakisorong8204 I Cor 8:1-4 Paul holds there is only one God as we do, and so anyone reaching out to God is reaching out to the one God. There is a thing called henotheism and that is when there is a belief in multiple gods...egypt, greece, etc... and sometimes Israel, but you can read time and time the emphasis on One God, no others, and if there is only one God and someone is reaching out to God (maybe using a name we dont know or an imperfect understanding) they are reaching out to the ONE God.that is true monotheism, which Catholicism was last I checked thanks for the clarifying question
God is testing our faith as catholics. Stay in the Church. At bare minimum, *respect* the position of the papacy. No one said you have to like the pope. Even Jesus and Saul would clash with Peter. The devil wants you to panic. Don't.
Amen, pray for the church and for Pope Francis.
Also this thorough discussion has personally lead me to even read papal documents and understand better what the Church actually teaches, haha.
@@LuisEstebanGomezAlduncin There you go. Apologetics department. Let's convert some people.
The enemy don't want you to panic. He wants you to stay complacent in the face of blatant Hershey as he continues to make you shift towards full on opposition of The God of the Bible.
@@sharonnejones8389 Good thing that's not us. Unlike the schismatics.
Pope always said, Pray for me, let's pray for him and for the church. Humility, Love and Sevice
He said what he said. No popesplaining needed.
When the faithful are confused or disturbed by something, it is an act of charity to explain the truth to them - one of the spiritual acts of mercy. Explaining what the pope probably means is the duty of those who represent the faith. Calling someone a pope-splainer for simply doing what a Catholic should do is unnecessarily provocative and dismissive. The improper response is to stir up people against the Vicar of Christ while using this or that as a pretext.
@@vivacristorey4363 😂 they have no answer to that
@@vivacristorey4363 Also unnecessary: Gaslighting by popesplainer:
Have a nice day.
@@kbeautician Or you could just, you know, read a little. You might not be as confused. That's entirely your own fault.
"Popesplaining" is no less of a cringeworthy term than "mansplaining," by the way. These words are only used by people who wouldn't be interested in any type of an explanation to begin with because they frankly possess no intellectual humility in the first place. You think you already know everything, so you shoo away any attempt at further understanding. Good luck making any spiritual or intellectual progress with that mentality.
Gee. I wonder which rude, snippy, unoriginal, condescending catchphrase you'll drag from the arsenal to snap back at me? 🤔
@@kbeautician The term "gaslighting" is overused to try and dismiss an argument. It is also considered, by the catechism, to be gravely sinful to bear false witness. Where in the video. Assuming that you watched the video, perhaps you can present evidence to back up your accusation of gaslighting against Dr Karlo. Or, if you have given false witness, I would suggest correcting yourself to minimize the damage of such a sin and then take it to confession before receiving Communion. God bless.
Having to continously try to deny the plain reading of what is being said gets pretty tiresome and unsustainable.
You are the tiresome one who is easily duped and lacks prayer…
A compilation of statements by Pope Francis on Jesus being the only way to salvation:
1. Homily, Casa Santa Marta, November 4, 2016:
"There is no other way. Jesus is the door. It is a door that does not deceive. It is a door that does not make us do wrong. Whoever enters through Jesus will be saved. He will go in and out and find pasture."
2. General Audience, May 15, 2013:
"Jesus is the only way to heaven; to know Him, and to follow Him, is to walk on the way of salvation."
3. Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel), 2013,
Paragraph 14:
"No one is saved by his or her own efforts or works. Rather, we are saved by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ."
@@Netro1992 and you falling for it is also so tiring
And yet the bible tells us not to grow tired of doing good. It is a good work to explain the faith to those who are disturbed or confused by statements to make sure that they understand what the Church teaches.
It's the lens you use to see it.
I’ve lost some respect for you two, and I don’t say that easily.
I’m not asking you to bash the pope or expecting you to fuss him.
But …. over and over and over again. Literally dozens upon dozens of incidents have to be thoroughly explained by the talking heads.
There will be a price to pay for this lukewarm attitude towards a pope who continuously and consistently confuses the entire church.
At least Trent Horn had the guts to say the truth
I think they are just trying to calm us down, I personally think he should not have said it but given how he was trying to just charm people I can say that statement doesnt count as heresy, but instead counts as a lie
@@Onlyafool172 I too do not believe the pope uttered formal heresy. I’m not even at liberty to make such a judgement. I also think yes they do work as panic suppressors. But honestly, we don’t need to be pampered. This constant pope-splaining is just nauseating. What’s sad is that it keeps having to be done so often.
@@vSwampFox I agree, but even if he said formal heresy it changes nothing really, Popes can and have done that before
Trent Horn is infallible
@@polodown4729 kinda, but he is strong apologist
You guys..Stop the nonsense. He messed up and just admit to that. He was very clear, and you guys are playing cleanup. Cleanup means that you're lying. Don't make excuses for what he said. Let him come out and say something different, which he hasnt. The Catholic Church will continue without his personal statements, but dont pretend
Do you in all sincerity believe that Pope Francis really thinks all religions are basically the same?? That is pretty wild...
it's called damage control!
@@mortensimonsen1645 would this be the same pope Francis who believes in evolution but not the first four words of the bible?
@mortensimonsen1645 I believe he doesn't, but clearly, the moment was too big for him. He didn't want to disappoint the crowd, but disappointing Jesus was ok. I know that seems harsh, but that's the way I took it. We have faith, and it needs to be told no matter how others feel about it
@@otgenesis5046 You need to seriously consider the context of the comments, IN THEIR ENTIRETY, to whom was he was speaking and what was the conversation about. Don't take a soundbite approach to this, you're doing absolutely no one, including yourself. Do your homework man.
The pope was wrong here. Not all religion take you to god. Example Islam for sure doesn't take you to god.
Is it the fault of the Bible that there are now 50,000 Protestant interpretations? Same thing here, it’s not the Pope’s fault, but it’s the interpreter’s fault.
Agreed.
Buddhism also WON'T lead you to God.
Telling others they will not get to God bc of the religion they practice seems soo hypocritical to the teachings of love and respect Christians are taught .. that is just showing disrespect , hate and hypocrisy… God created everyone and everything right ? He put everyone on this earth and depending on where they were born ? Grew up and what they learned .. many didn’t have a choice and that … but created and placed all that .. only God can read hearts and minds … he will judge who goes to heaven not you …
@@Search4theTruth 1 Jesus said go preach the gospel everywhere does who believe and get baptised is saved those that don't they are condamned. 2nd if you religion tell you kill other and if you are not a muslim they are animals you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that this is wrong. 3rd how would you face all the christians being killed by muslims becuase they are christian?
Do you know what Islam teaches?
@@cecquela Yes but protestants normaly dont claim you are not saved in another denomination
I just finished taking a course taught by someone who worked for many many years for the Holy Father when he was still Archbishop of Buenos Aires. Last night at our last class I asked him, “how well do you know the Holy Father after working for him for so many years?” To which he replied, “fairly well.” I proceeded to ask him about this and his response made a lot of sense to me. He said, (paraphrasing)
The Holy Father was having an inter faith dialogue. He spoke as Holy Mother Church has set the guidelines for this type of dialogue to be done. He was not speaking apologetics with other Christians. He was speaking to people who do not share our belief in Jesus and the way we know God. So you start with what you have in common. If you plant your flag, although you’re not saying you don’t believe the Church is the true faith, you get nowhere. All everyone will end up doing is shutting down the dialogue and not open lines of communication. You do not approach a Protestant, an orthodox, an atheist, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, etc all in the same way. Again, he wasn’t speaking apologetics.
Although I totally understand ecumenism and I understand reaching out to sinners such as homosexuals, you do no one a favor by bending the truth. You speak to them in ways they understand, but you speak the truth when necessary. Francis stretches the bending to the breaking point. In the process, he scandalizes his own flock.
@@jtt8886 dialogue with those who do not accept and believe in our Lord, Jesus you can’t simply argue your point across. Many of us can argue back and forth with Protestants slinging Bible verses back and forth but none of us would use the same approach with an atheist. The whole point is that these were people who are not Christian. Tell them to their face that they’re religion is false, which is true, you end up shutting the communication down.
If you disagree I’d invite you to go to a Muslim and tell them Jesus is Lord and Muhammad is a false prophet and see how that works out.
If the flock is scandalized it’s bc the flock tends to say they believe the Lord founded the Church on St. Peter and that the apostolic succession with the primacy of the Holy Father will never be overcome by the gates of hades and then quickly fall into fear like if the Church is failing. Our first Pope denied our Lord and was called satan by Jesus. We seem not to be just sheep anymore but rather fainting goats. Something seems not ok and Catholics all over just tip over in despair.
@@in_defense_of_the_church What was Jesus' and the Apostles model? Go to where the Jews and pagans are and bring them the good news. The Bible is very clear on this point. They did that up unto the point of death.
You approach as the apostles approach. Willing to die for the message of the Gospel.
And why would you call another man Holy Father? This is blasphemy.
Acts 20:29
I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
@@slimero3039 if you knew your Scriptures you’d know that there are two types of Holy. One meaning sin free/perfect as in God and another as in “set apart” without being sin free. The wolves you are referring to are all those men and women who have started their own churches and taught their own interpretations.
Pope Francis needs to clarify his position as soon as possible as at the moment he is stating something very misleading and definitely against what scripture teaches.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 what is there to clarify? He said what he said everyone understands what he said so ask yourself why am I trying to justify something that came out of the popes mouth?
@@ChristLives1-gx2wk What Pope Francis has just stated is against Jesus Christ being the only way as Jesus clearly tells you. John 14:6
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 facts brother. He’s setting up the stage for the end times
I don't think Pope Francis will come out to clarify it, his past behaviours tell me this.
He even doubled down on what he said. No mistake he said that and reiterated it.
He said they are DIFFERENT paths. Since popes St. John Paul II and Benedict made similar statements, it was very little left for our imagination. We immediately knew what he meant. They were referring to the Church doctrine regarding salvation for people from other religions in the context of inter-religious dialogue.
Nowhere does the Church teach this nor have JPII or Benedict ever said this, even though JPII was scandalous with his inter-religious ceremonies.
@@Joe-uw5rv sometimes, scandal is in the eye of the beholder.
@@susand3668
That's great. Now tell me if all religions lead to God and I will tell you if I am being scandalized for no reason.
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic yes, that is the truth.
But when you have said the bare-bones of that truth, what have you gained?
Have you shared the Beauty of the Truth Who is our Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God?
Will anyone want to gaze on Him in adoration and know that His is LOVE?
The pope is getting old. He has no time left to give out dry-as-straw dogmas to those who are starving for LOVE.
So he steps out in faith and uses words to try to touch hearts, to warm them and let them open like a blossom. The pope is counting on God to give them the other, more mature words, like those you wrote. But the words will not be dry to the hearts that are open! Instead, these words wil be what you want them to be, Rivers of Grace, shaken together and overflowing and feeding the five thousands of five thousands!
So do not fret. The pope's words were not wasted, especially since I am sure you are praying for him!
The people who speak Italian said the interpreter was correct
That's fine. And you know that these were not written remarks but off-the-cuff, not meant to carry the burden so many want to place on them --- not intended to teach the fullness of Truth.
@@susand3668
It’s worrying because he believes what he says and he’s the pope
The majority of those who don't actually work in the field don't understand how interpretation/translation works.
I've worked in the translation industry for over 30 years (Italian to English to Italian). I listened to the what the pope said as well as to how his words were interpreted and the interpreter made some poor word choices. I also saw the corrected version that the Vatican put out. I compared it against what was originally said, as well as how it was originally interpreted, and I can understand why they made the corrections they did.
Since interpretation takes place live, interpreters don't have much time to think about their choice of words, consider alternatives and review their work to make sure that it is as accurate as possible. They are expected to listen to the speaker and translate their speech instantaneously It is difficult to achieve the same level of accuracy as more traditional (written) translation services where the translator has more time to think, analyse and do some research if necessary.
While most mistakes that happen during interpretation tend to be minor, and are therefore inconsequential, occasionally serious issues and misunderstandings can arise (such as in this case). When this happens, the recording of the original content is closely examined and a more accurate written translation is then provided. This is standard practice in the industry.
Some people think that all that is required to be an interpreter is to know two languages. However, it's not that simple. In order to be skilled at interpreting, you not only have to be fluent in both languages, you also need to have the capacity to communicate nuanced cultural and linguistic differences in real time. You have to be a fast thinker.
A professional interpreter has a lot of practice and will tend to make far fewer mistakes than someone who does not interpret for a living. My guess is that the person who interpreted for the pope that day was not a professional interpreter and, given that that's most likely the case, what the Vatican did was follow up with a more accurate written translation..
One give away, that the interpreter was not a professional, was that he made the common mistake that many inexperienced interpreters and translators make which is translate word for word. The reason that this is a mistake is that sometimes there are nuances in the source language that don't exist in the target language and vice-versa which, if not taken into account, can lead to misinterpretations, I'm guessing that those who say that the interpreter translated correctly are also inexperienced (or don't understand/speak Italian as well as they claim) as they clearly didn't capture the nuances that were missed.
@@anta3612
Clearly then the interpreter was incompetent and this reflects badly on Vatican officials who employed him which makes you wonder how many more people employed at the Vatican are incompetent at their jobs l mean as you said you were incompetent at your job job for 30 years as an interpreter and you were paid to interpret and couldn’t get it right and if mistakes are being made then they should be corrected but this is not the case for the pope and the Vatican because they haven’t condemned the interpreter for any mistakes in fact Pope Francis has confirmed the interpreter spoke the truth
@@martinmartin1363 Clearly my comment went completely over your head. Either that or you didn't read it properly. I didn't say that I was incompetent. I said that, given the nature of the work, even professional interpreters make small mistakes (not glaring errors) from time to time. However, due to practice and training, they make far fewer mistakes than those who are inexperienced.
When issues arise it's usually because the interpreter is inexperienced and therefore the oral translation is followed up by a more accurate written translation (sometimes produced by the original interpreter themselves as they may be better at written translation than oral translation). The reason written translations tend to be more accurate is because there is more time to carefully analyse the language which is a luxury an interpreter (oral translator) doesn't have. A written translation will always be more accurate than an oral one even if the interpreter is highly skilled, at the top of their game and the best in their field. This is due to the nature of the job itself. Oral translation aims at capturing the overall/general meaning of what is being said as accurately as possible whereas written translation is more precise. It's also a common mistake to presume that because someone may be able to produce excellent written translations that they possess the same level of skill in oral translation but this is a common mistake that people make when choosing an interpreter/translator. In reality, some are better at written translation than oral translation and vice-versa while only a few are highly skilled in both.
Like I said: most people don't understand how this industry works and this includes those choosing who to employ for the job. When serious issues arise, it's usually because an inexperienced person was chosen. Choosing the wrong person is a common mistake (the Vatican aren't the only ones to do so). The reason this happens is because, like I said, most think that all you need to be an interpreter is to know two languages fluently. I wonder how you'd go about choosing an interpreter. Let me guess: I'll choose a common scenario. Let's say that you were needing something to be interpreted into Chinese. Most likely, if you had a friend who was fluent in Chinese, you'd ask them to do it/help you out. You'd assume that they would be able to do the job and they might presume that they could too. This is a very common error that a lot of people make when choosing an interpreter and one that I've seen time and time again over the years (this is what I was referring to and not my own alleged/supposed incompetence as you so graciously put it).
Now, while for some situations it's crucial that the interpreter be a professional (court/medical/business conferences etc.), in more casual settings it's not. My guess is that, since this was an informal chat with a group of young people, whoever chose the interpreter thought it would be fine. However, since issues arose, the Vatican did what is standard practice: they released a more accurate written translation.
Therefore, the Vatican did clear things up it's just that people don't want to accept/believe it. People want to stick to their position: that the original interpretation fully captured what the pope meant as it continues to give people an excuse to be enraged. Anyway, from the tone of your response to me, as well from as the other comments I've read, it appears clear that there are many who aren't interested in trying to properly understand what happened and just want to argue.
I think Pope Francis has always wanted to communicate with people with a 'friendly informal' way like a father guiding his children. That simple and humble way is a joy to see, but it can lead to problems when talking too informally and unprepared about doctrinal matters.
@bhgtree love w/o authority is the spirit of antichrist. This father is feeding us candy for breakfast. G-d, please give us a responsible parent already. Our teeth hurt.
I always see him as speaking to his children at the level they can understand and building them up from there. Not too dissimilar to a school where material is dispensed at appropriate levels, so 2+2= 4 for little ones and then upgrading up to 🥧r^2 radius x 5 for the olders. Everyone is on different levels and even the Church didn’t have a fully realized and intellectually developed understanding of certain things until later.
However, the other children don’t consider this view and think EVERYONE should already be at a high learning level even if they have not been given the same time or tools to develop. Ever have those fun “know it alls” in class who think they are so much better than everyone else cause they ace tests and can recite the material perfectly back at the teacher? Yeah, they can get pretty annoying and can make other kids feel belittled and stupid for just “not getting it” when they are genuinely trying to learn the material.
Rather than be that know it all that looks down on others, we really should be those student helpers who encourage their peers to keep learning, offer our assistance happily when needed, and respect each other’s differences. I would not want my parents to treat me exactly the same way as they treat my older and younger sibling, I want them to see me as *me* and offer assistance that will help me grow. And I want to extend that same courtesy and respect to my siblings by not assuming my parents speak to them only in the way *I* understand.
If the Church is meant to be a family, then we should act like a family. Which means we should recognize our brothers and sisters have different needs and experiences than us, and that the parent(s) will have to treat us differently accordingly. Those who believe everything should be conformed to their sensibilities and are not willing to accept others have different viewpoints do not seem to be practicing the virtues of love and charity.
@@jendoe9436 He told them that 2+2=5
@@CadyAnBlack no he didn’t 🙄 he told them they were already taking the right steps by showing up to learn and these are the basic ideas we can build off of. Some of this stuff you may have learned at home or picked up along the way, which is good that you are paying attention and have a desire to learn. Let’s continue learning about these topics together, understand what these things mean, how they can relate to our lives, and feel free to ask questions along the way.
For those of you ready to move on, please be patient with the rest of the class. If you feel confident explaining this material to others, please feel free to help those in need. Just remember to be kind and patient as you assist, as not everyone thinks the same way as you do and they may need some time to process their way through. Those who know already but aren’t up to tutoring at this time should please continue on working quietly so as not to disrupt others or cause confusion by jumping too far ahead in the lesson plan and overcomplicating the basics.
Once everyone is at the level they should be at, we will then move on to the next part and continue from there.
There now, CadyAnBlack, wasn’t that much better for everyone involved and more accurately presents how we should evangelize? What’s a better example for a child who wants to learn:
-Being told by a teacher that they are too stupid for not understanding the basic concepts right away even though they have no prior knowledge or understanding of what’s being presented?
Or
-Having the teacher acknowledge they have great potential to learn and they are excited to work with them every step of the way until they understand the topic as well as they need to?
The former is how you diminish a child’s enjoyment of the learning process and make them feel like they can never do better because of their current state, which can lead them to never try. The later is how you make that child feel they can learn and they won’t be thought of as lessor for asking questions, which can lead them to develop strong habits that can promote continued learning.
I’ve had a mix of those kind of teachers, and was a TA for several semesters at college. The students I taught who I saw make the best progress were those who had even a slight desire to learn and were willing to put in the effort. Since they gave me that, I made sure to help them anyway I could and *never* talked down to them or insulted what they did or did not know. Yes they sometimes asked really stupid and basic questions that they could have picked up in the lab pre-materials and lectures, but me belittling them for their lack of knowledge did nothing but shut down conversation and snowballed into them never wanting to try again.
Can’t say I was perfect and patient all the time, but I had a lot of evaluations and students later approaching me and saying “I didn’t like the material and really hated taking this class and lab, but you were really patient with me when I struggled with something and that helped me at least get through everything with a passing grade. Also, I did learn one or two things I thought were really neat or cool because you explained them so well to me and was excited to share. Wish I had you to help me in other subjects.”
That’s what Pope Francis is telling us to do. Reach people where they are at, find those points we can agree on, and build them up so they genuinely want to find that fullness of Truth. And they’ll have a desire to find that when they feel they are being respected and loved, not by being belittled and told how terrible they are for not “getting it” by others who don’t know their situations.
We are called to spread the Gospel and the Truth, and we are called to do it with *love* and *charity*. If we don’t express that love and charity, then we do the message a disservice and become stumbling blocks for others. Don’t be a stumbling block, be their companion who walks beside them and helps them navigate.
@jendoe9436 False religions aren't early checkpoints on the straight and narrow path; They are the wide way that leads to destruction. Your Luke warm modernist heresy is damning countless souls to an inescapable hell. Get behind me, Satan.
Dr. Broussard deliberately omitted the part where Pope Francis asked "But my God is more important than yours!’ Is this true?" because it contradicts with the narrative he is desperately trying to cling on too. A catholic's answer should be an emphatic Yes. Christ is more important than any god. For a christian to answer any other way is to disregard the very first commandment - "You shall have no other gods before me" Exodus 20:3.
That's the problem when you treat the religion and the office as "mine". It's not mine, it's God's truth. When you think it is yours you are not a steward or a vicar but the lord, and you can change it to your liking.
if there is only one God, then there are no other gods.....
“I am THE way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Stating otherwise is heresy or apostasy.
Kyrie Eleison.
Correct. And the pope would never deliberately state otherwise.
Unless he is playing for the other team aka The father of lies
@@susand3668
You must have missed where Pope Francis doubled down on this heresy yesterday.
That’s twice in 5 days he claims all religions lead to God and are a gift from God.
Demon worship is not a gift from God.
@@susand3668
Except that he has. Did you not see the video?
Romans 2...14For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the prescriptions of the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. 16on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people's hidden works through Christ Jesus. Judgment by the Mosaic Law.
There's been a lot of these statements that lend themselves to misinterpretation during this pontificate.
And the most important thing is missing: Clarification.
I think he is intenionally being vague and not clarifying so future theologians can normalize the problematic statements so they can get away with heterortodoxy
@@Onlyafool172 why do you think that way?
The context for every informal, off-the-cuff (as this was) speech by Pope Francis is his formal, Magisterial statements -- where he is completely orthodox.
Please also note that what the pope was trying to tell the youngsters was to have courage and to be respectful in their inter-religious dialogues.. In Singapore, there are great restrictions to religious freedom. Before anyone can be converted to Catholicism, they must dialogue.
Pope Francis was opening a door, not even close to starting a sales pitch!
@@susand3668 because he weaponizes ambiguity for the sake of aproval, I like him but I cant defend him this statement in particular I can just say: okay the context was this, so in this sense it is something that he should say, for maximum efficiency of menssage of Love, as ler the parable of the samaritan. Other than that I cant
he clarified he meant what he said
Among other factors is Singapore has the Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act which is as proscriptive as some Canadian or UK legislation on gender ideology, but on what can be perceived as denigration of religion, and foreign religious people have been prosecuted. Also if people want to see a statement made to youth as an un-nuanced blanket affirmation on his part, they should also read his homily in Indonesia (Homily of His Holiness, Gelora Bung Karno Stadium Jakarta, Indonesia, Thursday, 5 September 2024).
Wow! We heard what he said. It was crystal clear. Quiet trying to twist the meaning behind what he said. We as Catholics got his meaning. Doesn't change my faith. Just my trust in him.
Right? He was pretty clear. You can be a Buddhist or a Muslim, and everything would be just as fine. All paths lead to Heaven. We all got it. That type of teaching isn't catholic though. Its freemasonic, satanic, and taught in new age schools. We're fine though right? Yeah, let's all just trust him like Woo hoo. Let's see where that leads too. 🔥🔥🔥
Romans 2..14For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the prescriptions of the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. 16on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people's hidden works through Christ Jesus. Judgment by the Mosaic Law.
"If different paths means they're all 'equal paths' to get to God, and no one is better than the other, well then this would be at odds with Jesus' teaching" -> the pope literally compared the different paths to different languages! So that's exactly what he must have meant, since no language is better than the other, they are just different! This level of popesplaining is getting ridiculous.
Also, the pope or the vatican could have release a clarifying statement like they have done in the past, but this has not been the case. And the next day he said something similar in a video call, so yeah. Time to look reality in the eye.
Quit trying to cover for Jorge Bergoglio. What he meant was glaringly obvious, especially in light of the fact that he refused to make the Sign of the Cross prior to giving a blessing. He has also publicly stated that God WILLS a plurality of religions, which DIRECTLY contradicts the statements which our Lord and Savior made, to wit, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man gets to the Father except by Me." Bergoglio showed his hand YEARS ago, there is NO clarification needed. He meant EXACTLY what it sounded like he said. His signature is on a document which says the same thing. If you cannot bring yourselves to tell the truth rather than making excuses, then I cannot think of any reason to continue to listen to you.
A big AMEN to that!
Acts 20:29
I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
Vatican 2
you obviously have not lived in Asia and know what the Catholics experience there, and yes I have, you will not get ONE single convert to Catholicism with this ignorance of the world, especially in the places that have religions much older than ours. They live in countries that have no roots to Christendom that allows us in the West to speak as we do. and his name is Pope Francis, like it or not, the college of cardinals elected him, and if you are Catholic, you dont get to choose what parts of the faith/magesterium you accept because you forgot Jesus' great command to go throughout the world and baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Think for just a moment if you were pope, how would you console these sheep who live as a minority, often a persecuted minority.....it won't be with hitting people over the head with sign of the cross...
Jeremiah 5:30-31
A horrible and shocking thing
has happened in the land:
31 The prophets prophesy lies,
the (Priests rule) by their (own authority),
and my people love it this way.
But what will you do in the end?
Does intent matter in heresy though? He doubled down the following day and said “ diversity of culture and religion is a gift from God”. I don’t know how that can be interpreted besides pluralism especially with the context of the comments from the day before.
I knew this was going to come down to "invincible ignorance". I have long stated that if an atheist truly philosophically believes that God and gods do not exist. And he is truly being intellectually honest. Then he is being protected by invincible ignorance. At least according to our understanding of Gods relation to humanity here on Earth. Further if such an individual is committing what we as Catholics would regard as a mortal sin, but the atheist has not met the 3 conditions of a mortal sin, then again, he would be protected by invincible ignorance.
But here is the bottom line. You can't "game" God. You can deceive others. You can deceive yourself you are deceiving God. But you can't deceive God.
I often imagine a conversation like this between an atheist who has passed from this life and God whom he immediately encounters.
Atheist: Lord, from the brilliant reasoning mind that You gave me on Earth, I looked at all of the possibilities and to the best of my intellectual ability, I came to the logical conclusion that You did not exist. I had no other reason to hate or reject You.
God: I search your soul, and I see this is true, but still you worked evilness in thoughts, words and deeds, that you instinctively _knew_ were evil. And so, you have chosen to self-separate from Me. I love you so much, that I will allow you to do so.
My dad, decades ago, told me that the thousands of generations of, _Mayans_ , for example, were protected by invincible ignorance, because no one had made them aware of Jesus Christ. But he also said that, even then, it is perfectly likely to be evil in thought, word and deed, and _know_ that it is evil that you are doing. He said that there were Mayans that went to heaven and Mayans that were cast into hell.
What the Holy Mother Church teaches is that the HMC is the only _certain_ path to salvation. I haven't gotten a straight answer if "extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" is still a tenet of the Church. But I know that there are a great many Muslims who believe Christianity is wrong and pray for _our_ souls daily, just like I pray for _their_ souls. I believe they are truly invincibly ignorant.
Yes, "Extra Ecclesium nulla salus" is still a dogma of the Church. You can look it up in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Just that we understand nuances now, that make some of the old formulations less close to the Truth than we had thought, now that we have better clarification from the Holy Spirit.
One way to understand these nuances is to say that we have no salvation outside the Church, but God is not so limited.
Myself, I think that through our prayers for all sinners and by our receiving the inexhaustible graces in the Sacraments (especially the Eucharist), we, as part of the human race, are -- in a sense -- bringing those "outside" the Church, to the Church (which is the Body of Christ), so that Jesus may fold them into His loving arms. It's a thought, and I have not seen the errors in it.
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic it would be easy to take one part of God's Truth and extrapolate to what we consider the logical conclusion.
Yes, the Church is vital to our salvation.
But God may know us better than we know ourselves -- someone who is mentally an atheist can be saved by God, through His Church, by means we do not understand.
The Church has never declared *who* is in Hell. We do know infallibly that the Saints are in Heaven.
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic I think you are forgetting Romans 1 and Acts 17.
There is a reason why the Church has brought out more deeply the teaching of the Freedom of God to save whom He will in this age. The Holy Spirit continues to lead the Church.
Dialogue with Brian Holdsworth
2 days ago
Brian:
"Dogma is merely teaching from a competent authority. We all accept dogmas in some way in our lives because 99% of what we know has been relayed to us and accepted without first hand verification. To expect everything to be confirmed through experimentation, observation, or high standards of proof would require you to know very very little. That's not courage. That's just a refusal to trust - which is motivated by fear. That's what is cowardly. It takes courage to trust others who are put in a position of authority over you - which is a necessary thing. Parents, teachers, officials, are all necessary and our participation in recognizing their necessary authority is also necessary. Refusing to do so doesn't lead to an increase of freedom. It leads to chaos and disorder. I'm just being consistent in recognizing that necessity and the reconciling myself to finding the kind of authority I can trust. It starts with God and what he has revealed and then it leads to those he has entrusted in seats of authority to protect and transmit what has been revealed. With that, I arrive at dogma and I'm happy to submit to it because that is where true freedom lies - not in the blindness of my own narrow and limited vision of the world - but one expanded by centuries of thinkers all contributing to a shared vision."
Dear Brian,
Being a follower is fine, but being a blind follower? Not so much. Any dogma automatically turns you into a blind follower. You stop questioning, stop inquiring. We are scientists. Imagine if science was rooted in dogma! We’d still be living in caves, trying to figure out how to make fire. Scientists go out of their way to prove their theories wrong. That’s the attitude of humility. That’s a deeply religious attitude. True science is a profoundly religious enterprise.
Don’t seek wisdom in words that are carved in stone. Seek wisdom that’s beyond words. The words of Pope Francis are that kind of wisdom. Your phenomenal intellect can never grasp this, but your warm heart can, and will. We are not Catholics. We are not followers of any dogma-religious or secular. We don’t lean on anything. We stand on our own feet. But it feels good to have Pope Francis, who just pulled the rug from underneath Catholic dogma, on our side.
Find the courage to give up the idea that you already have wisdom, that you already possess wisdom-because that’s what dogma is-and seek wisdom in questioning everything, just as Pope Francis does. There is no way to get closer to God than that. In the end, that’s what true religion is-it’s your inquiring open mind. Without it, all scriptures are dead, and all beliefs are just poison. As you know, Jesus questioned everything and relentlessly challenged dogma, perhaps more than anyone else in history! He leveled the dogma of the Old Testament! Ultimately, he was crucified for confronting and demolishing dogma.
That’s what true Christianity is: not to sell your soul, creating an agreement reality that can no longer be questioned, no matter how much pain and suffering it causes to millions of people. It’s not sacrificing your conscience and the human dignity of a free thinker, creating this most disgusting invention of the human mind-dogma, the blind conviction that’s at the roots of all human misery and all wars. The sense of purpose and belonging must be derived only from the truth and the truth alone. Or to put it better: from the absence of falsehood, the absence of lies. We grew up in communist Russia and theocratic Iran, in societies devastated by dogma. But there is no difference between communist dogma, religious dogma, or atheistic dogma. All of them are just different forms of idol worshiping. The problem with dogma is not its content, but its existence.
“Sabbath for men, not men for Sabbath.” That’s the essential message of Jesus. This now is the message of the brave and unyielding Pope Francis. The message is: Beliefs are what you die for. Faith is what you live for. We pray that he won’t be crucified for it like Jesus was.
Dr. Karlo Broussard is the man!
Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life; and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.” - John 6:68-69
That's a whole lot of catholic dancing.
Not at all.
On the other hand, your comment is a whole lot of dancing around the judgement of charity.
@@G-MIPActs 20:29
I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
The Pope's statement that all religions seek the path to God aligns well with WISDOM 13:6-7, which says,
"Small blame, however, attaches to them, for perhaps they go astray only in their search for God and their eagerness to find him; familiar with his works, they investigate them and fall victim to appearances, seeing so much beauty."
This verse emphasizes that while people in various religions search for God, many lose their way because they lack proper guidance. Every religion involves a quest for the Divine, but without true guidance, people may stray down unfamiliar paths. Therefore, recognizing the truth and following the right guidance is essential to reach the ONE TRUE GOD.
I agree except he is stating that the paths others seek are correct
I disagree with Dr. Karlo's assessment. When taken into context the previous confusing actions taken by Pope Francis, like the pachamama incident, the Abu Dhabi document, the revision of the 2021 document on the blessing of gay unions, etc., I think this is just another example of his controversial statements that demand clarification, but, which we'll probably never get. It serves only to cause division which seems to be the way of the world these days in politics, science and social norms.
The "pachamama" incident has been totally debunked -- the video of the ceremony clearly catches the words the woman said to the pope as she handed him one of the statuettes. "Our Lady of the Amazon" she said.
I agree, it is not my idea of our Blessed Mother, but it is certainly nothing like an image of the smiling mountain goddess (not even a goddess of the Amazon area, which has no mountains) who tempts people by offering abundant fruits.
Please stop listening to the pope-blamers. They are not following the Lord's command -- as St. Paul said in Acts 23:5 “...it is written: ‘Do not speak evil [about the] ruler of your people.’” (Bible Hub, Parallel Study Bible)
Thank you Karlo for implementing the CCC# 2478 as all good Catholics should do. Pope Francis did not say or imply that "all religions are pretty much the same" like some people claim. Actually, Pope Francis' words go in line with what Pope Benedict XVI has already taught: "The journey of religions, _this quest for God in different ways_ - even if they are mistaken, but always seeking God - is assumed in the sacrament. The other religions, with their journey to God, are present and are assumed.." - (Pope Benedict XVI - Lectio Divina, June 11, 2012).
Also, regarding interreligious dialogue: "In man’s present situation, the dialogue of religions is a necessary condition for peace in the world and it is therefore a duty for Christians as well as other religious communities. This dialogue of religions has various dimensions. In the first place it is simply a dialogue of life, a dialogue of being together. _This will not involve discussing the great themes of faith_ - whether God is Trinitarian or how the inspiration of the sacred Scriptures is to be understood, and so on. It is about the concrete problems of coexistence and shared responsibility for society, for the state, for humanity. In the process, it is necessary to learn to accept the other in his otherness and the otherness of his thinking. To this end, the shared responsibility for justice and peace must become the guiding principle of the conversation. A dialogue about peace and justice is bound to move beyond the purely pragmatic to become an ethical struggle for the truth and for the human being: a dialogue concerning the values that come before everything. In this way what began as a purely practical dialogue becomes a quest for the right way to live as a human being. Even if the fundamental choices themselves are not under discussion, the search for an answer to a specific question becomes a process in which, through listening to the other, both sides can obtain purification and enrichment. Thus this search can also mean taking common steps towards the one truth, even if the fundamental choices remain unaltered." - (Pope Benedict XVI - Address to the Roman Curia, December 21, 2012).
For in-depth information I recommend reading the book: "Truth and Tolerance: Christian Belief and World Religions" - Ratzinger, J. Ignatius Press, 2004 - especially pgs 44, 205, 263.
Colossians 2:8
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
This is the most ridiculous way to cover up on Catholic faith....
He is from liberation theology...which uses this kind of language, which has practically undermined the Church in south america..not to mention the oachamama "incident".. And he said we cannot say "my religion is better than yours."
Pope Francis never signed on to liberation theology, stop the ignorant accusations,
It started well, but then the Pope 'splaining began "If by different paths.." The Holy Father's statement was crystal clear.
You guys have to be in your own little world, he made it clear, comparing different religions to different languages and even claimed that different religions are a gift from God. This is blasphemy and treason against Christ and His church.
If this was the Olympic event of semantic gymnastics, you just won gold.
Pope Francis urged youth from various religions to take risks beyond their own faith and engage in dialogue with Catholics. These young people, showing respect, even acknowledged him as the Holy Father-more than can be said for some Catholics today.
Well said🎉
@@erikebot4477 bless up 🙏
I think it's a real stretch to suggest he misspoke - he was reading from a prepared script
Dang. Not even Trent Horn resorted to these levels of popesplaining.
Yea, I saw that. Trent called it like it was, horrible.
Do you believe Pope Francis wants to contradict Jesus on purpose?
Trent Horn is infallible
@@polodown4729 So are you and so am I, you're just saying tautologies that don't get us anywhere.
@@alisterrebelo9013 before u start accusing me of tautologies, it's just a joke.
Francis affirmed bluntly, “Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio“. This was immediately rendered accurately by the translator at his side, who said loudly and clearly, “All religions are a pathway to arrive at God”. No hint of any nuance or qualification there.
The word "Way" means: 1) a method, style - 2) a road, track, path
So "A Way to your house or a Path to your house" will still get me to your house. Jimmy is splitting hairs. The Pope said "All religions are a PATHWAY to ARRIVE at God".
No servant is greater than his master! If Jesus was misinterpreted many times by the Jews in His time like when he said "Whoever eats my flesh and drink my blood will certainly have eternal life", they accused Him of cannibalism! and also when He said before Abraham was, I am! Then they laughed at Him and said He was no more than 50 years old and they wanted to throw stones at Him. My point is If you are the pope and no one criticizes you, then you better be worry!
Respectfully, I believe that it’s not about what he tried to say, but what he actually said and how it was interpreted. As the Pope, he influences millions of people. He should be very careful in what he expresses and never leave room for confusion.
This is exactly why I am Protestant, thank you.
You are a Protestant because you are disobedient and have made disobedience your god - just as Adam and Eve had done.
…”when we love the Pope, there are no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go…we do not say that he has not spoken clearly enough, almost as if he were forced to repeat to the ear of each one the will …”
-Pope St. Pius X
“The devil can imitate humility but he cannot imitate obedience.”
- St. Faustina
The Catholic Church preserved, compiled, translated, chose the books to include and declared the Bible canon in 382 under Pope Damasus at the Council of Rome. Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible but He did leave us a church (Matthew 16:18). Every Catholic essentially reads the entire bible (OT & NT) every 5yrs at Sunday Mass.
”Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
-2 Thessalonians 2:15 NAB
”Wherever the bishop shall appear, there, let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the *Catholic Church.* “ (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Chapter 8) -St. Ignatius of Antioch, 107 AD
@@G-MIP Oh yes, and look at how far the Catholic (Universal) Church has fallen since the days of the Early Church Fathers. The establishment of "traditions" that are not Biblical and do not trace to the Early Church. And now this a blasphemy by the pope himself, in which his followers must blindly agree to, as in a cult.
@@G-MIP A number of your assertions are false - the 'Catholic' Church didn't preserve, compile or choose the books to be included. They were in wide circulation and almost all accepted by means of their authorship and consistent voice well before the end of the second century (see the Muritorian Canon). 2 Thessalonians is a call to orthodoxy and unity, but that doesn't necessarily mean the 'Catholic' Church as you would define it: everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved - that is the definition of the catholic church, and those individuals make up the body of Christ from across numerous streams of orthodox Christian groups. We are not of Paul or Apollos, we are of Christ - thus, we are not of Pope Francis or any other, but rather we are of Christ, and this current Pope is demonstrating at times how little he regards the revealed truth of God found in Scripture or the revealed exclusivity of Jesus Christ as the only way.
…”when we love the Pope, there are no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go…we do not say that he has not spoken clearly enough, almost as if he were forced to repeat to the ear of each one the will …”
-Pope St. Pius X
John 20:29
I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
The pope DIDN’T say that salvation can be achieved without faith in Jesus and outside the Catholic Church. He only expressed his personal opinion (out of Ex Cathedra) that all religions lead to God. And in a certain way it is true, once all religions talk about God, preach the good, mercy, forgiveness, humility, justice and charity. And we know that God does not make distinction of people. The pope also said that "God is God of ALL", which is totally in consonance with Scripture.
Yes I agree, I came to Christ through being a Psychonaught (Psychedelic abuse in order to go into the Etherial realm)
CCC actually says all people seek knowledge of God through religions, that they know there is more to life than just existence. They just haven’t found the truth of the gospel yet through no fault of their own.
All help people realize the truth in Christ however many are anti Christ if fully bought into
@@RaimundoSantos79 Amen. Pope Francis Speak Love and no matter what we have One Father and Judement Belong Only TO HIM .P.S. your Comment is Perfect.
Even Satanism?
We, as the Church, are waiting on Pope Francis to clarify. Has that come yet?
Remember when pope francis said that the cross is God's failure?
@@38calibercoffee where?
The catolic vicar in my town wrote that pope Francis is an ordeal to all of us who love the Lord and that he will have to answer on the day of judgement. I am a very catolic-friendly protestant who respect the catolic priests of our town who I think have the Holy Spirits help when preaching, and I gladly visit their church. I believe the statement by the pope has harmed RCC and christianity as a whole. POpe Francis may be personally symphathetic person, but I beleive he made a mistake.
I'm impressed with the popesplaining and willful blindness. Bravo.
@@barelyprotestant5365 I congratulate you of having the God-given gift of knowing what is in the mind and heart of the Pope when he expressed his views concerning this matter.
@@JusticeLeague-o8m I think he or she is just expressing their common sense understanding of the popes statements. It's frustrating to us prots too believe it or not because in my view, all of Christendom has been infiltrated it seems like. Small little changes or statements change drastically in a century or two
@@JusticeLeague-o8m
How do you know what is in @barelyprotestant5365's mind and heart? How come you have judged him so harshly with your criticism. Despite his words, he could have, in his heart and mind, been actually praising the Pope and declaring him the greatest Pope ever. Why are you judging?
@@JusticeLeague-o8m"The Pope said X but he must not mean X because we don't have mind reading powers"
@@JusticeLeague-o8m I'm taking him at his word. I'm not the one claiming he didn't mean what he clearly, repeatedly said.
A compilation of statements by Pope Francis on Jesus being the only way to salvation:
1. Homily, Casa Santa Marta, November 4, 2016:
"There is no other way. Jesus is the door. It is a door that does not deceive. It is a door that does not make us do wrong. Whoever enters through Jesus will be saved. He will go in and out and find pasture."
2. General Audience, May 15, 2013:
"Jesus is the only way to heaven; to know Him, and to follow Him, is to walk on the way of salvation."
3. Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel), 2013,
Paragraph 14:
"No one is saved by his or her own efforts or works. Rather, we are saved by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ."
We as Catholics cannot allow our leaders to commit heresy. Papa has doubled down on this.
What heresy? Please have faith in our Pope. Don't be decieved by the media, many of them are Freemasons trying to destroy the Church. Don't follow them.
I'm catholic and I say i still wish he did not.
He's undoubtedly the most loving man to ever hold the seat of Peter. I wish he was Catholic.
Thanks for your sarcasm.
What do you mean by loving?
@Joe-uw5rv Unconditional universal love, the willingness to suffer for others out of a genuine longing for their happiness. Francis has this. He just doesn't believe that folks who are decent by human standards should go to hell. This is the spirit of Antichrist. It has poisoned our church.
@@JusticeLeague-o8m Francis worships a god who loves unconditionally, who offers grace to sinners who openly refuse Christ, and who probably doesn't let anybody go to hell. This is the spirit of antichrist. It is deeply seductive, but we must hold fast to the certain knowledge that hell is real, that almost everyone goes there, and that only the name of the Son of God can save us. Our lady of Fatima, pray for us, especially those most in need of His mercy.
Well.. he's ROMAN Catholic. Emphasis on Rome. So he stands for Rome and his own self interests not the Bible and God. SOLA SCRIPTURA BIBLE AND GOD ALONE AMEN
A lousy teacher is one who just goes on saying what he wants without caring if he was understood correctly.
An unethical teacher is one who goes on saying what he wants KNOWING that he will likely be UNDERSTOOD INCORRECTLY.
Nope.
The Vatican issued a cleaned up version. .... Pope Francis told them to fix it and change it back to what he originally said.
Now ... try to explain that away.
Priests online have taken exception to Francis's words. Why does Francis NOT clarify his words, the Dubia, etc etc?
there's people who convert into Catholicism from their previous faith because their previous faith lead them to Christ, i mean God can works in mysterious ways according to His wisdom, why should we limit a limitless God?
So a religion like Islam that says Jesus is not the Son of the Father leads people to Catholicism? Do you realize how irrational you sound?
I am from rural area Malaysia, I agree to this and I believe only Catholic will understand. This is only for those who are seeking a religion, and from that it will lead to seeking God, and from that, if they truly seeking for a God, they will try to find a true God and true religion. This had been in my thaughts since I met with many people with no believes or trying to find a true God.
Thank you. Let's pray for Pope Francis so that he keeps serving the Lord as he has being doing, specially as his vicar. Also, let's pray that we all learn to listen him in a charitable way, for he is the one our Lord has given us now.
Is he serving the Lord though? Be realistic lol.
Who is this Lord you are talking about? I ask because Francis hasn't been serving Jesus Christ. He's been serving the devil. And he's been doing a pretty good job at it, with all of the souls he is sending to hell by preaching heresies.
@Meroknight are you serving the Lord by judging him?
@@soldierofmary984 Absolutely. It is a great service to the Body of Christ, to point out the heretics so that others do not fall into hell, following their heresies. In fact, its one of the greatest forms of service. "It is true charity to point out the wolf wheresoever he creeps in among the flock" ~St. Francis de Sales (Introduction to the Devout Life, Part III, Chapter XXIX).
Bergoglio is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Scripture warned us about this type of deceivers, which would be in our own church. And it is about time you wake up to realize that fact. That is, if you care about your salvation and those close to you. Otherwise, feel free to believe all religions are paths to god as he teaches. In which case, why be a Catholic? Buddhism is much easier to follow, there's no requirement to go to Church on Sundays.
@@Meroknight of course, he is the Pope. He could be better or worse according to our standards, but he still is. Could we want him to be more precise when he talks spontaniously? Yes, but that doesn't mean that he is not serving God at his capacity. Being charitable with him and trying to understand the orthodoxy of his words helps me a great deal to see that. Let's pray for him that he might see God face to face in Heaven.
It is not "Religion"...works for salvation....it is "Relationship"....with Christ by faith.
Catholic answers has become the CNN of the Catholic world.
Care to elaborate?
@@davidrojas6457 they are the popesplainers popesplainer
Religion are different paths to God. 100% agree.
But the only religion that can lead you to the finish line, is the Catholic Church
From thee CCC: 843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life." Other religions only have hints of the truth, can only prepare for the Gospel - and it's only the Gospel that saves. So other religions are not paths to God, there is only one path to God - the Catholic Church. Other religions may prepare people to walk down this path - but so does studying nature, or ancient philosophy, or having a tragedy occur in the family. It's semantics, but it's important to clarify.
@@rexgloriae316 as per MY experience and life story, protestantism (prosperity gospel) was my path to the Catholic Church, hence to God.
Im quite sure its God's grace that led me to that process. And I cooperated...
@@Slit-dl6gl I am not doubting that. I also converted as an adult. But for me a path is one that you continue down, its a way, a road. In other words, if you continued down the path of prosperity gospel, would you find God? I think that's the issue with this language. The Catechism is precise - it says other religions prepare us. For me my upbringing, the faith of my parents, studying philosophy were not paths to God but were preparations for me to walk down the One True Path - the Way, the Truth and the Life. Anyway, I am glad you came home brother.
@@rexgloriae316 issue on semantics, i think?
Protestantism is "portion" of my path to God. It is not that i started as protestant then converted to catholicism. Im born, baptized and raised Catholic from 1y/o to 30s, abandoned the faith in my 30s, then returned to the Catholic Church in my mid 40s. I started in Catholic faith, left it and saw its true meaning outside of it, then returned to it.
This is the reason why I believe that my stint as a protestant, is portion of my path to God.
Its good thing im not a theologean, coz we are not bound by strict theological semantics and nuances.
I believe that all false religion is a path towards the true religion (Catholic faith) which leads man to God. But this is only true if the person will continuously seek the truth which path leads to Catholic Church, the doorway to God and salvation. I hope this makes sense
Everyone is still confused - nowhere in the Catechism or in any other teaching does it say that different religions are paths to God. The Church teaches that many religions have elements of the truth, that doesn't mean that the religions themselves are a path to heaven.
What pope francis said, either wrong or correct should not make us catholic discourage our faith instead leading us to dive more to the teaching of the church.
God makes perfect His plan through the imperfect man..
Let us slow to anger and judge but quick to love and forgive..
@erikebot4477 amen. Let us relish in this opportunity to grow in love and patience before the promised chastisement finally ends this great apostasy.
you guys should dive into the Holy Bible instead once for a change so you would not be led astray so easily by all kinds of false teachings and herecies
@@szocsdaniel We gave you your Bible. And we've had much worse popes than this one. The deposit of faith survives until his return. Go peddle your heresies somewhere else.
My reflection: Pope Francis also focused about the mercy of God to all mankind. According to some mystics, there are also souls in Purgatory who were not Catholics but pagans and other Christian denominations. The sufferings of the pagans are lighter than of the Catholics.
i love the Lord and i love you all
I am Catholic I think the Pope should clarify himself if he has not already.
I think our Pope is a Christian Mystic and he speaks in a poetic language of the heart that needs to be interpreted not in a strictly literal sense. He understands that God knows the contents and intentions of every human heart.
True. Rad trads are keyboard warriors, lack of wisdom, humility, let alone intelligence.
@@DR-nw3jn please yourself. Meet you at the end and see what happens
Our lord said “Let your yes be yes and your no be no. Everything else is of the devil” if there’s a young person who is thinking of converting and they hear the pope’s words what outcome do you think it’ll have? Definitely not of conversion. Our lord said “Go into all the nations and baptize them in the name of The Father and of The Son and of the Holy Ghost. He who believes and is baptized will be saved. He who does not believe will be condemned.” Notice he didn’t say “oh just let people remain in their own religions, all religions are paths to the father!”
@@DR-nw3jn Fundamentalism is stifling and dangerous. A young person hearing the Pope's words would ask question and they will hopefully be given the correct explanation. It's utter stupidity to take everything literally and at face value. That's why the young require guidance. Nothing worthwhile comes easy. Have some respect. The Pope is in the position he is in for good reason. He is no dummy. You're a desperado clasping at things way out of context. Have some discernment. Retreat in prayer and contemplation before attempting to remove the splinter from the eyes of those clearly greater than you.
I don’t know man. What good is it to speak poetically if it leads to disharmony in the body of Christ. And in all honesty it doesn’t seem to foster any sort of repentance or seeking out the truth that is found in Jesus alone as the way to God. With the Popes talk, I can only see an encouragement to those young people to continue in their own religious paths, because it’s a “different language” for the same God. Paul was gracious with the Roman’s but he was VERY clear at the same time. The gospel and exclusivity of Christ is offensive.
YES if a religion is God-made/God-given and NO if a religion man-made/invented
Canon 1404 of the Code of Canon Law: "The First See is judged by no one".
Exactly!
@@polodown4729 Amen. Give me a pontiff who will bring heretics to heel. The warnings of Fatima loom large on the horizon.
@@polodown4729 unless he is not ..
Then you must agree wit him in his heretical comments.
@@polodown4729 Well this reminds me of the reason why I'm protestant. The body of Christ must be able to judge it's own members; consequently, no one should be considered an infallible authority. You see I'm not shocked by my pastor making wrong statements because I know that he's only human. Holding that the pope is beyond judgement is the doctrine that puts Catholics in a weird situation every time Pope Francis makes controversial statements that plainly contradict Catholic teaching
How do you explain that a pagan couple on the process of converting to Catholicism stop their process after hearing the pope in Singapore?
If you can lie about this, what else are you willing to lie about at 'Catholic' Answers?
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Thank you for this response to Pope Francis remarks on other religions. I’m currently in RCIA. Myself and my family are on full on transition mode to the Catholic Church from an evangelical Pentecostal church. This was explained well! God bless your ministry!
My dad always said think before you speak the pope didn’t
just because you dont understand him, does not mean he was not thinking, the man is a Jesuit, they are always thinking and probably lights years beyond you
@@raymondsmith5197
I don’t understand you and you don’t understand me and we both don’t understand the pope
My main concern here is what Pope Francis didn’t say and I don’t hear any clergy say or Vatican is that Jesus is God
The pope has the opportunity to tell the world Jesus is God and to dialogue with the inter faith community and tell them Jesus is God and the children of the world Jesus is God
If all religions were paths to God, then the Pope would have to explain why God told the Israelites not to be like the people around them who worshiped Baal, Ishtar, and Molech.
It's Pope Francis' ambiguity on statements, informal or otherwise, throughout his pontificate, that have been so frustrating for a lot of Catholics. Knowing this current issue has caused such an uproar, one would think Francis or the Vatican would clarify the statement to put peoples' minds at ease.
If you knew catholic theology you wouldn't be frustrated. Why not take each surprising statement and delve into them to penetrate to a deeper, truer, understanding of your faith. BTW - what Pope Francis is teaching in this instance has been the taught for centuries and even in the second century by the well respected Rabbi Meir!
@@robertdobbs2283 Sorry, but even Catholic theologians have expressed frustration over Pope Francis' ambiguous statements throughout his pontificate. Some believe Francis does this intentionally.
@@bryanjones8778"This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience-those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)
I am grateful that Mr. Jimmy Akin explained this controversy so well in the Catholic Answer 20 Sept 2024 PODCAST. And thank you also, Mr. Karlo Broussard. ❤
Well explained as usual
As more people try to explain what Pope Francis said, it just gets more confusing….
This is getting quite spooky. It appears to me that the fix is in. No matter what is said nor how clearly it is said, there will be this manipulation between words and intention, as if that were the primary issue. God bless these poor men. Both corroborated on how they have, at times, misspoken. Presumably, this was meant to comfort their listeners. But here is the issue: even letting aside the clearly erroneous statement on how all the religions are paths to God (and not a single one can tell the other "I'm better"), if and when Karlo or Cy Kellet ever did misspeak, I am 100% certain (being the good men that they are), they quickly clarified for whoever may have taken their words in the worst possible way. And yet, for the Pope, it is almost taken as a granted virtue that he will be silent. And therefore we should expect to hear nothing.
You have come a long way, Karlo, very well articulated. Keep up always the great work you give! 👏🤝
God bless pope Francis
@@gmh5484That is not true.
@gmh5484 you could be a Freemason trying to destroy our Church. Proove you are Catholic?
There was no point at which the Pope said, or even implied, that all religions are equal. To say the different religions are paths to the same God is not to say all those paths are equal. The 'traditionalists" who are deliberately distorting the Pope's words, to suit their own partisan agendas, need to go back to church documents such as Nostra Aetate and Lumem Gentium which explore the relationship between Catholicism and other religions, recognise the commonalities, and clearly express the reality that there are indeed elements of truth in all religions.
Why do jesus need to die on the cross if "other religions have an element of truth" or in the popes words "a path to God"? No Jesus, no path to God. John 14:6 is crystal clear on this!
Lofton is that you?
@@lepsena8089 No Jesus = no path. True. But equally true that no path construction worker = no path. Yes? Do I need to personally know the construction worker in order to walk on the path he paved for me?
@@kierinmurphy9795 According to John 14:6, yes you need to know the one who constructed the path because the path itself is him. You can't walk on it without knowing him. Meaning the path and the maker are inseparable. "I AM THE WAY and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
I Agree with Karlo. In the first place, Pope Francis NEVER said that ‘all religions are equal’ nor that ‘all religions are equal paths to God.’
From his inter-religious with youths in Singapore, this is the verbatim translation from his priest / translator:
“All religion is a way to arrive at God … Different religions, in comparison and by way of an example, is sort of like a different language to arrive at God. But God is God for all. And if God is God for all, then we are all sons & daughters of God. There is only one God, and each of us is a different language so to speak in order to arrive at God. There are different paths.”
Pope Francis NEVER said nor implied that different religions are equal paths to God. In no uncertain terms he was advocating that “there are different paths.” And that “there is only one God” and “God is God for all.”
In my opinion this is consistent with Lumen Gentium 16 - which teaches that there are different paths to Salvation - even for those who may not believe in Jesus (to Karlo’s point).
The parable of the Good Samaritan also shed similar light when a scribe asked Jesus how can he have eternal life? Jesus proceeded to tell him the parable of the Good Samaritan … A priest and a Levite, both know the Law well, saw a victim in distressed but walked in the opposite direction whereas a Samaritan stopped and attended to the victim until he is healed. Jesus said to the scribe “Go and do the same.“
The Samaritan worshiped a faith considered heretic, and ‘ritually impure’ by the first century Jews, yet he is the one who understands and practices the true heart of the Law.
This parable illustrates to me that while the Samaritan whose religion may not have the fullness in truth as the Jews, ie. It is of a different path than the Jews, yet his love for his ‘hostile’ neighbor can lead to the One True God or eternal life.
When we don’t take the Pope’s word out of context and if we don’t get lost in translation, it seems to this unworthy believer that what the Pope said is consistent with the Church and Sacred Scripture.
My 2 cents … and God Bless. 🙏🏽
Our Pope does allow ambiguity to flourish, which leads to confusion, which leads to scandal. He unfortunately does not clarify.
That’s a problem.
Q. How many ways are there to God?
A. As many as there are people.”
This exchange is found in Peter Seewald’s 1997 book-length interview with then-Cardinal Ratzinger, Salt of the Earth: The Church at the End of the Millennium (p. 32).
@ChristIsKingBeCatholic Amen. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day” (CCC 841).
Ok. The next time I encounter an opened satanist, I will tell him to conforme to his believes honestly and that will take him to god.
No, that is not what the pope said to do. He was telling an iner-relious group of young people to be courageous as well as respectful, and engage in honest religious dialogue.
Don't YOU believe in the Truth of the Catholic Church? I assume the answer is "yes." Then why not be like the pope in his brief stay in Singapore, and tell young people to be open to what God will teach them as they look beyond the good (of which there is some in every religion -- I do not consider Satanism to be a religion, as Satanists claim it is not ) to the One Good God for Whom everyone longs?
Only ONe God can fill the God-shaped hole in our hearts. And He will teach the youth in Singapore, if they will listen.
@susand3668 Sorry, I never heard PB saying be opened to God was theaching them. Pls do not put words that were never said. And Satanism is considered a religion. It even clams tax exemptions in the USA. If you do not consider it a religion is just your personal opinion.
He said all faith even satanic faiths 😮A faith is a faith! BTW I'm Catholic 😢
@@carlosnoyola2054you're telling someone not to put words in the Pope's mouth meanwhile you're doing just that.
The Pope clearly mentioned the religions in the end. So if you like include satanists but the Pope never said that
@ac8fc8 satanism is a religion. Is the worshipping of satan.
As a Catholic, the statement of the Pope was absolutely wrong and embarrassing.
If what the pope said was even remotely true then why do so many people leave their old religions and put their faith in Christ? You had it right the first time Jesus is the only way. What the pope said was heresy. This isn’t the first time the boat has been charged with being a heretic.
Catholics keep reading your bible and keep following God and never think that Satan is equal to God and there is only 1 God but not everyone worships the same God.Some people follow Satan or demons or djinns or anything dark that has to do with Satan,thats not God.Keep following your own God Catholics, follow the bible,never follow Satan or the Anti Christ.There is only 1 God but not all religions are the same and not all religions are right and not all religions follow God
I respect the Pope as much as I respect priests, other religious, and the bishops and cardinals.
I take everything he says with a grain of salt and see what happens next.
In Mass today. Our Preist actually talked about what the Pope said. He said this "Universal Christ." How people who go to Mass also have Buddas and do hindu prayers is fine. Because all religions are leading to God. This goes against what the Church teaches. Mosses smashed the 10 commandments because the israelites made a idol. He had them put inside a golden bull and killed in there. Jesus says "No one comes to the father except through me." Our Preist then mentions those who do no believe in God but live a Christian life can also be saved. Yet Jesus clearly states "Deny me, and I will deny you to the father."
I know the Catholic Church is the True Church. I know their teachings are correct. People can be fallible and my Preist today most probably was, we have to stay united.
Didn't he say it in English when his native language is Spanish? I was raised multi-lingual and always make slips. Don't ask about the time I told grandma we couldn't visit because one of the kids just got shots. **shudder**
He said it in Italian and was translated to English
@@Cannibal_Here And the translation was different from his original statement.
@@jerrytang3146 No it was translated correctly. There are plenty of Catholics, Italian speakers debunking this theory
Should also ask the opinions of the Singaporean, Indonesian, Malaysian, Bruneian, Timor-lestre ,m and Papua NG. Pope Knew what we have gone through over the years. Fighting, killing, Churches, temples burning due to religious conflict.
@@wantok8117 in the minds of Western Catholics, they shouldn’t complain as any persecution made against Catholics in those parts of the world should be taken with stride as that leads them on the path to martyrdom. No matter how many people are killed and hurt, no matter if all the schools and hospitals and orphanages and charities run by Catholics have to be closed because they are gone, no matter how much the innocent laymen suffer, and if there are no priests to administer sacraments because they were either killed or driven out, it doesn’t matter to those Catholics outside of SE Asia cause they can cheer on the persecuted for “living and dying for the faith!” while they sit conformably in their homes in other parts of the world where religious freedom is more tolerate.
I legit saw people criticizing someone from Indonesia about being grateful for Pope Francis’s speech as it cooled a lot of tensions among the faith groups. They claimed the OP was supporting a heretical Pope, that they should be ashamed for appreciating the reprieve from violence, and that the Pope should have “placed the truth of the Gospel” over ‘being nice with other religions.’ I supported the best I could by pointing out how us outside of that area can’t understand what our brothers and sisters are going through over there and that Pope Francis’s words seemed to have done a lot of good. Of course, the attackers then accused me of “denying the faith” and how me and people with my opinion were a “disgrace” to the martyrs of the Church and that we weren’t “true” members of the faith 🙄
Fortunately the OP remained steadfast in their gratefulness for peace and wasn’t going to let themselves be pushed around by keyboard Catholic warriors. I too am glad there was some moment of peace for everyone, as it’s through love and charity that will ultimately lead souls to Christ. Having had discussions with friends and peers of varying faiths and backgrounds, I’ve come to understand just how much more of an impact I have when I live out my faith joyfully and authentically than by quoting documents at them and letting combative emotions fly around.