Hi Joshua, good introduction. I‘d like once a comparison of methodists and pietists. Because on my point of view they share very similar development. Methodists originated in England, Pietists originated in Germany. Both movements criticised their protestant churches and in 17th/18th century they have been participated on that time top notch scientific, philosophical and social disputes. (Today almost nobody does recognise it anymore) From both branches immigrants took their traditions towards the United States. So this would be pretty informative to US people and worldwide protestant audience, because of its influences on science & education and politics of the 19th century and beyond.
Thanks to David at Houston Creative Media ( ruclips.net/channel/UCbKay0TzzKNDUS0zIQfcsnQ ) who enjoys the channel and made several animated graphics like this one that I am using at the end of my videos.
It would be interesting to see a video about how slavery affected the denominations of the time. I can’t think of one single issue in American history that caused so many schisms.
When it's all said and done LGBTQ(insert other appropriate letters and symbols here) will likely match slavery in terms of schism. It's already broken the largest Lutheran, Presbyterian, and Episcopal churches apart. It would've already done so to the Methodists but a global pandemic delayed the vote. It's breaking the Church of the Brethren apart right now but they're small so there's no coverage of this. The day is coming when it will hit the Southern Baptists too.
Disappointed and probably a bit confused to hear any mention of critical race theory. That church shouldn’t be discussing it, unless in a condemning manner, and even then
I also think there are more Bible Methodist churches outside the US than inside. Many churches are present in Mexico and the Philippines also the Filipino conference has a church in Paris for Filipino expat workers
He has said in the past that he is waiting for the split to be formalized (expected some time after the Covid pandemic ends) before he does anymore videos on the UM.
1: The historicist method (aka the historical or the continuist method) favored by the majority of protestant reformers for about 400 years - roughly the sixteenth through the nineteenth century. 2: The allegorical method which may have originated as early as the second century A.D. but was not used by a significant minority of scholars in predominantly protestant countries before the nineteenth century. 3: The futurist method was suggested by Francisco Ribera, a Spanish Jesuit theologian, during the Council of Trent (1545 to 1563) as a way to counter the protestant reformation. John Darby said he was influenced by Francisco Ribera when he (Darby) combined dispensationalism with futurism in the nineteenth century. Darby’s interpretation of the prophecies of the Bible was not popularized until the publication of Cyrus Scofield’s Bible Notes - first edition 1909. Have you made a video - or would you consider making a video - about which denominations favor which of these (or/and other) methods of Bible interpretation?
@@eg8580 Just now, I searched for a Ready To Harvest video on this subject and didn't find one. I did find one ostensibly on this subject (by someone else) but don't know how to turn up the volume on my Chromebook enough to understand it.
I was in a Free Methodist church where the pastor was heretical and questioned whether hell was eternal, and was an evolutionist who quoted more from movies and popular books than the Bible. Sadly, this heretic was in good standing with the conference superintendent, and wasn't removed. I must corect this video. The Free Methodists have not held to the belief in the inerrancy of scripture for many decades. In fact, the Wesleyan Church was going to merge with the Free Methodists, but they held off due to the Free Methodists refusal to believe in Biblical Inerrancy.
To add to your history of the Methodist Episcopal Church. After the the Methodist Episcopal Church South out of it was formed the Colored Methodist Episcopal Church on December 16,1870 but they later adopted the name in 1954 Christian Methodist Episcopal Church (C.M.E). In 2020, we celebrated 150 years with our uniqueness and strong foundation in the Bible with the strong tradition of Methodism.
Is there a difference between The CME and The AME Churches? I did a small local research on a local AME Church for my history class this past semester. Plus The AME Zion Church. All very intriguing. Blessings.
@@allanmendez5661, I know that our founding is different from other because there was 41 ex slaves that came together to form the C.ME Church. Even though haven't studied our differences(one being how we say the Apostles Creed and how the AMEZ greet each other), but I have studied our similarities which has kept the founding tradition of Methodism alive. If all 3 denomination CME, AME, AMEZ was to merge. It would be one of the largest African American denomination. But we are all in communion with each along with other Methodist denomination.
@@someoneveryclever according to my research ( if I'm wrong if any AMEZ is on here forgive me) they would say peace be unto you and I forgot the response.
In Chile the largest and the majority churches are pentecostal but from Methodism and I know can say we are almost equal to Bible methodists just difference than we are pentecostal, but not charistmatic. But in organization is more like Free Methodists, we have bishops and a strong structure, different kind of pastors (presbyters, deacon, "pastors under test") and laypeople can pastor a church (called like "manager of church" ) but under the support of a pastor and then can become a pastor, deacons for each local churches, etc.
Some Pilgrim Holiness churches didn't join with the Wesleyan Methodist Church to become part of the Wesleyan Church because they viewed the Wesleyans as too worldy, with TV, women having short hair, etc. There are two Pilgrim Holiness denominations, the Pilgrim Holiness Church ( used to be called Pilgrim Holiness Church of the Midwest) and the Pilgrim Holiness Church of NY. It is a small denomination of largely small churches. They remain against wedding rings and makeup. They require sleeves that are long enough to cover the elbow (although I've seen a few photos of people in regular short sleeves, depending on the location, many seem to follow the rule). And they go further than John Wesley and prohibit all remarriage after all divorce, even if the cause of divorce was for Biblical grounds, like adultery. I think they have zeal for the Lord but are a bit legalistic on the sleeve length and remarriage issues.
In 1939 when the ME Church South reunited with ME Church a few pastors of the southern church withdrew to form the Southern Methodist Church based in Orangeburg South Carolina. It has 70 or 80 congregations and a Bible College in Orangeburg.
Can u do a video on the split with the Bible Methodist/Wesleyan/Pilgrim Holiness ? The Nazarene church was also part of the early Holiness churches. The Bible Missionary church split was over the internet being in the home & other dress doctrines. These are just the ones I remember…
Nice video, but I wish it was redone with the Congregational Methodist Church instead of the Bible Methodists. The Congregational Methodist Church has close to 185 churches now.
Can you give your sources, links, or contacts for your information in the description or comments? I've done a lot of my own research into different denominations and I would like to follow up more.
Thanks for the video....very legalistic of one of them to disallow wedding rings, go over and beyond with teetotalism BUT blatantly go against the Bible when allowing women pastors. No thanks, I'll remain confessional Lutheran ☺😊
Can you give more clarity as to what do you mean by “Methodism IS is the only …. who believes in holiness.” All Evangelicals in one way or another believe in holiness. Some will believe it in an “imputed” way, I could be wrong; these will be more of our Reformed/Calvinist/Baptist Brothers and Sisters. Moreover, most of those that come from a Wesleyan Doctrinal Heritage will believe in an “imparted” view holiness. Therefore, what do you mean by that? Methodism is not the only Wesleyan movement in Christian History. Two major churches within The Wesleyanism movement are The Wesleyan Church and The Church of the Nazarene. However, it would be unwise of me to do a blanket statement that no other church believe in “holiness.” Can you give more clarity? For example, one of my best friends is a brother who is a KJV only independent Baptist and his church puts a heavy emphasis on holy living. While they reject the teaching of entire sanctification, they teach biblical holy living. A good book on the subject matter is called “5 views of sanctification” the general editor is Stanley N. Gunter by Zondervan Publishing.
BIBLE methodist are the best as u can see is the only one that difers on key issues like baptisim and evolution and notice they are the first one to part ways in 1841 probabaly after an Great Awekening. Liberalisim abounds in the other 2 . But the bible mehthodist ruined in the escatology unless this video is mistaken im sure they do have a view but simply dont agree. Everyone has a view on everytyhing specialy somethign so important as the rapture. BIBLE M. DO FEAR MORE THE LORD IT SEEMS
Hi Joshua, good introduction.
I‘d like once a comparison of methodists and pietists.
Because on my point of view they share very similar development. Methodists originated in England, Pietists originated in Germany.
Both movements criticised their protestant churches and in 17th/18th century they have been participated on that time top notch scientific, philosophical and social disputes. (Today almost nobody does recognise it anymore)
From both branches immigrants took their traditions towards the United States.
So this would be pretty informative to US people and worldwide protestant audience, because of its influences on science & education and politics of the 19th century and beyond.
I'd love to see a video on the Seventh-Day Adventists. My grandmother was Independent Baptist; my grandfather was SDA.
So they never attended the same service?
Your videos are fresh and clean and love the ending scene.
Thanks to David at Houston Creative Media ( ruclips.net/channel/UCbKay0TzzKNDUS0zIQfcsnQ ) who enjoys the channel and made several animated graphics like this one that I am using at the end of my videos.
The Methodists are trying to study up on the split that may or may not eventually happen.
Thank you for sharing this.
I love your videos! Can you do a video about sedevacantist Catholics?
It would be interesting to see a video about how slavery affected the denominations of the time. I can’t think of one single issue in American history that caused so many schisms.
When it's all said and done LGBTQ(insert other appropriate letters and symbols here) will likely match slavery in terms of schism. It's already broken the largest Lutheran, Presbyterian, and Episcopal churches apart. It would've already done so to the Methodists but a global pandemic delayed the vote. It's breaking the Church of the Brethren apart right now but they're small so there's no coverage of this. The day is coming when it will hit the Southern Baptists too.
@@ronobvious1785 This pandemic is many things. But for those churches, it's a sign from God saying not to split over the homosexuality issue.
Disappointed and probably a bit confused to hear any mention of critical race theory. That church shouldn’t be discussing it, unless in a condemning manner, and even then
God loves Black People. Society does not. What's not to discuss?
I also think there are more Bible Methodist churches outside the US than inside. Many churches are present in Mexico and the Philippines also the Filipino conference has a church in Paris for Filipino expat workers
Can you do a video on the Believer's Eastern Church? It's such a peculiar combination of traditions.
The name sounds like a combination of EO and some type of evangelical charismatic movement. That would indeed be an interesting combination.
@@RepublicofE It basically is dude, and it's based in india.
Do you have anything comparing Wesleyan Methodist with these churches and the soon to be gone United Methodist?
He has said in the past that he is waiting for the split to be formalized (expected some time after the Covid pandemic ends) before he does anymore videos on the UM.
1: The historicist method (aka the historical or the continuist method) favored by the majority of protestant reformers for about 400 years - roughly the sixteenth through the nineteenth century.
2: The allegorical method which may have originated as early as the second century A.D. but was not used by a significant minority of scholars in predominantly protestant countries before the nineteenth century.
3: The futurist method was suggested by Francisco Ribera, a Spanish Jesuit theologian, during the Council of Trent (1545 to 1563) as a way to counter the protestant reformation. John Darby said he was influenced by Francisco Ribera when he (Darby) combined dispensationalism with futurism in the nineteenth century. Darby’s interpretation of the prophecies of the Bible was not popularized until the publication of Cyrus Scofield’s Bible Notes - first edition 1909.
Have you made a video - or would you consider making a video - about which denominations favor which of these (or/and other) methods of Bible interpretation?
I second this request
@@eg8580 Just now, I searched for a Ready To Harvest video on this subject and didn't find one. I did find one ostensibly on this subject (by someone else) but don't know how to turn up the volume on my Chromebook enough to understand it.
I believe there are more Bible Methodist congregations outside the U.S. than inside the U.S., and perhaps more in the Philippines than in the U.S.
I was in a Free Methodist church where the pastor was heretical and questioned whether hell was eternal, and was an evolutionist who quoted more from movies and popular books than the Bible. Sadly, this heretic was in good standing with the conference superintendent, and wasn't removed. I must corect this video. The Free Methodists have not held to the belief in the inerrancy of scripture for many decades. In fact, the Wesleyan Church was going to merge with the Free Methodists, but they held off due to the Free Methodists refusal to believe in Biblical Inerrancy.
Thank you for developing some time my methodist church...our foundation is faith and holiness
Mark 3:25 King James Version
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
Is holding a position on ‘the timing of the rapture’ normative in the States? 🤨
It is normative for any premillennial denomination to either have a position or be open to multiple positions.
To add to your history of the Methodist Episcopal Church. After the the Methodist Episcopal Church South out of it was formed the Colored Methodist Episcopal Church on December 16,1870 but they later adopted the name in 1954 Christian Methodist Episcopal Church (C.M.E). In 2020, we celebrated 150 years with our uniqueness and strong foundation in the Bible with the strong tradition of Methodism.
Is there a difference between The CME and The AME Churches? I did a small local research on a local AME Church for my history class this past semester. Plus The AME Zion Church. All very intriguing. Blessings.
@@allanmendez5661,
I know that our founding is different from other because there was 41 ex slaves that came together to form the C.ME Church. Even though haven't studied our differences(one being how we say the Apostles Creed and how the AMEZ greet each other), but I have studied our similarities which has kept the founding tradition of Methodism alive. If all 3 denomination CME, AME, AMEZ was to merge. It would be one of the largest African American denomination. But we are all in communion with each along with other Methodist denomination.
@@eltw5664 What is the way that members of the AMEZ greet one another?
@@someoneveryclever according to my research ( if I'm wrong if any AMEZ is on here forgive me) they would say peace be unto you and I forgot the response.
In Chile the largest and the majority churches are pentecostal but from Methodism and I know can say we are almost equal to Bible methodists just difference than we are pentecostal, but not charistmatic.
But in organization is more like Free Methodists, we have bishops and a strong structure, different kind of pastors (presbyters, deacon, "pastors under test") and laypeople can pastor a church (called like "manager of church" ) but under the support of a pastor and then can become a pastor, deacons for each local churches, etc.
Some Pilgrim Holiness churches didn't join with the Wesleyan Methodist Church to become part of the Wesleyan Church because they viewed the Wesleyans as too worldy, with TV, women having short hair, etc. There are two Pilgrim Holiness denominations, the Pilgrim Holiness Church ( used to be called Pilgrim Holiness Church of the Midwest) and the Pilgrim Holiness Church of NY. It is a small denomination of largely small churches. They remain against wedding rings and makeup. They require sleeves that are long enough to cover the elbow (although I've seen a few photos of people in regular short sleeves, depending on the location, many seem to follow the rule). And they go further than John Wesley and prohibit all remarriage after all divorce, even if the cause of divorce was for Biblical grounds, like adultery. I think they have zeal for the Lord but are a bit legalistic on the sleeve length and remarriage issues.
In 1939 when the ME Church South reunited with ME Church a few pastors of the southern church withdrew to form the Southern Methodist Church based in Orangeburg South Carolina. It has 70 or 80 congregations and a Bible College in Orangeburg.
Can you do this with different baptist denominations/conventions?
Yes, I plan to eventually do that!
... The FMC was removed from the MEC for... their EMPHASIS of Wesleyan theology? But isn't Wesleyan theology kinda the whole distinctive of Methodism?
Can you (or have you) do a comparison of EMC and Church of The Nazarene?
Thanks for the helpful information.
Can you do video on Peter S Ruckman and his followers such as Gene Kim or Robert Breaker or David Peacock?
Hey brother have you done a video on The Wesleyan Church? Thanks.
Not yet Allan, but I definitely will get there!
Can u do a video on the split with the Bible Methodist/Wesleyan/Pilgrim Holiness ? The Nazarene church was also part of the early Holiness churches. The Bible Missionary church split was over the internet being in the home & other dress doctrines. These are just the ones I remember…
I would like to hear about who the Calvinstic methodists are
Can you know the Denominations of the Antichrists?
Wow this channel has exploded recently
Nice video, but I wish it was redone with the Congregational Methodist Church instead of the Bible Methodists. The Congregational Methodist Church has close to 185 churches now.
Can you give your sources, links, or contacts for your information in the description or comments? I've done a lot of my own research into different denominations and I would like to follow up more.
The transcripts with footnotes are provided for members at readytoharvest.com
Denominationalism is not anywhere found in the Bible. For all these denominations that hold to the Bible alone.....well, it’s odd.
link proof of the splits etc?
Left out is the Methodist Protestant Church.
There are many more in the Methodist/Wesleyan family, but I think he felt that 3 at a time was the most he could compare.
Thanks for the video....very legalistic of one of them to disallow wedding rings, go over and beyond with teetotalism BUT blatantly go against the Bible when allowing women pastors. No thanks, I'll remain confessional Lutheran ☺😊
Why are you talking so fast? Good grief!
Methodism IS the only dénomination who belive in holiness
Can you give more clarity as to what do you mean by “Methodism IS is the only …. who believes in holiness.” All Evangelicals in one way or another believe in holiness. Some will believe it in an “imputed” way, I could be wrong; these will be more of our Reformed/Calvinist/Baptist Brothers and Sisters. Moreover, most of those that come from a Wesleyan Doctrinal Heritage will believe in an “imparted” view holiness. Therefore, what do you mean by that? Methodism is not the only Wesleyan movement in Christian History. Two major churches within The Wesleyanism movement are The Wesleyan Church and The Church of the Nazarene. However, it would be unwise of me to do a blanket statement that no other church believe in “holiness.” Can you give more clarity? For example, one of my best friends is a brother who is a KJV only independent Baptist and his church puts a heavy emphasis on holy living. While they reject the teaching of entire sanctification, they teach biblical holy living. A good book on the subject matter is called “5 views of sanctification” the general editor is Stanley N. Gunter by Zondervan Publishing.
Wrong.
Wrong. Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe in holiness
I thougt one of the 3 do agree with gayMarrage?
No- maybe you are thinking of the United Methodist Church, which is currently splitting because of that issue?
BIBLE methodist are the best as u can see is the only one that difers on key issues like baptisim and evolution and notice they are the first one to part ways in 1841 probabaly after an Great Awekening. Liberalisim abounds in the other 2 . But the bible mehthodist ruined in the escatology unless this video is mistaken im sure they do have a view but simply dont agree. Everyone has a view on everytyhing specialy somethign so important as the rapture. BIBLE M. DO FEAR MORE THE LORD IT SEEMS