They should go china way and start funding government companies more. Why should our tax money should goto private companies with zero risk who than could sell the weapons back to military which would buy the inflated cost with again our tax money.
What an !d!0tic suggestion. Private companies need assurance of orders, not government money. Assurance of orders requires that the Forces take ownership of the weapons programs, instead of giving them the step-fatherly treatment currently being meted out. How many Indian weapons have cleared all user trials and still not been ordered yet? Therein lies the problem. No private company will invest in a loss making venture, no matter how much money you throw at them.
Haan technology banaye DRDO HAL fund leke jaye 2 expansionist baniya groups . The Russian aviation industry has better machines than HAL. OFB, DRDO labs . Go and check machinery used In f35 assembly you will be biting nails. Investment zero , hopes 200%.
@@flightengineer1990Rafael itna acha nahi ki sirf 4.5th generation ka hai koi 5th generation ka nahi. 36 hi bahut hai. Rafael abhi order diya toh 6 saal baad hi pure milenge.
@@perpetualprosperity2963 that's true then su 57(pr russia ke pas khud 30 se kum hai hume kya hi dega, su 75(ye to Bana bhi nhi 😂 aur shayad kabhi bane bhi na ban gaya tobhi 20 ya use kum hi honge) and f 35( ye sabse best option hai but costly)
Ww2 USA made 100+ aircraft carriers , close to 3 lakh aircraft … 86000 tanks….. total of 5000 vessels … 4 billion artillery shells …. Around 2 lakh artillery pieces …. Agar ukrain Russia war ko dekh k dekh rahey hai tou bohot late se sikh rahey hai …. War is 80 manufacturing capability and 20 % fighting ……
Sachme 100 aircraft carrier aur 3lakh aircraft the Believe nhi hota But hoskta hai tab ke samay aircraft carrier just faltu ke ho Jinhe dubana easy ho Aur aircraft bhi pahele bas bomb barsane aur machine gun se ladne ke lia use hote the to jada chahiye the ab utne ki jarurat nhi hai
Well, there you have it! After the first interview of the new air chief, it’s curtains for the Tejas Mk 1 and Mk 1A. Now, the focus has suddenly shifted to the Tejas Mk 2 and the ever-elusive AMCA. And as for the Tejas Mk 1-cobbled together with components from Israel and Russia-well, good luck getting those now! It seems like the only thing they’re consistent at is canceling plans and chasing pipe dreams. Maybe they’ll launch a Mk 3 before the Mk 2 even leaves the drawing board!
Currently we’re in a state where we’re surrounded by more than one enemy and IAF’s current inventory shows that we’re not prepared for a multi front war. Even the major projects are being delayed which is concerning. Our mistakes from the past are now pulling us downwards. The government and the armed forces need to work harder if we wish to reach a point where our military power is unbeatable in Asia.
With due respect, its ultimately the Govt/CCS that takes calls to procure aircrafts. All serving chiefs know what they want and express their intentions to equip the forces but in this case its the GOI which is delaying but there must be a bigger plan for sure.
LCA TEJAS k engines pending hai, but kya HAL engine delivery aane Tak baki aircraft assembly kar k rakh sakta hai kya , jab engine aaye Tak fit & roll-out
GOI should focus on bread and butter MK2 and AMCA then TEDBF Actually Rafael navy makes more sense TEDBF can be converted into Naval AMCA but at present this seems sensible
It doesn't matter what the air chief thinks in the end it's hal and DRDO who will deliver things, so iam pretty sure they will fuckup things again and again. Forget amca theynare still struggling to deliver Tejas properly and then going to sell that planes to Asian countries 😂
There is a lot of hype around 5th gen fighters and AMCA but he is absolutely spot on - our main target should be Tejas mk1A and mk2, NOT AMCA. Our priority right now should be quantity. We need a huge number of these 4 and 4.5 gen fighters and also the capacity quickly repair and build new ones. Fancy aircrafts will look good on paper but fleet size will win you wars.
More 5 yrs delay is good....but it must ensure that time that Mk2 is ready and amca is put into testing for 2035-50 induction timeline. - 114 MRFA...if even 72 is imported thinking that let's fill other half with Tejas squad...it will highly damaging - Bcoz France will suck the Funding which could have been used for Our own production... INDIA is @ Better late than sorry scenario - Unlike Camel Riding Arabs ....we are not a nation with economic power. We have deliver more and greater as VishwaGuru.
Hal ko bhi refurbishment ki zarurat hai. Of course GE 'supply chain' issue ek important reason hai delay ki par har cheez uspe dala nahi ja sakta... Vayu sena ko Tejas Mk-2 and AMCA dono chahiye. HAL, DRDO aur har defence sector ke organizations ko aur efficient models apnane padhenge. Bahar ke elements ko hum control nahi kar payenge par kam se kam apna cheezo ko toh hum fully efficient bana le? Ukraine war se ek cheez pata chal gaya hai ki Russia ka war preparedness ko le kar kaafi sawal uthe hai... Hum woh galti nahi daurana chahenge.
The Indian Air Force’s (IAF) strategy to move directly from the Tejas single-engine Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) to the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) raises questions about the risks involved in bypassing an intermediate development stage. This intermediate stage would ideally include the development of a twin-engine aircraft using the indigenous Kaveri engine, which has yet to be tested in such a configuration. Here’s a critical examination of the strategic considerations in this approach: 1. Risk of Insufficient Testing for Kaveri Engines The Kaveri engine program has faced significant challenges over its development timeline, with limitations in thrust and reliability testing. The IAF’s leap directly to AMCA, a fifth-generation stealth fighter, assumes that the Kaveri engine will perform adequately in a twin-engine setup without extensive in-field validation. An intermediate twin-engine aircraft, perhaps in the form of a prototype or limited series production, could provide the necessary data on operational durability, performance under combat conditions, and adaptability to various mission profiles. Skipping this step risks deploying unproven engines on an advanced platform, potentially compromising reliability and mission success. 2. Technology Maturity and Risk Management The Tejas platform, while impressive, represents a different class of aircraft than the AMCA, with fewer operational complexities and lower power demands due to its single-engine design. Transitioning directly from Tejas to the AMCA increases the engineering and logistical challenges since a stealth-capable, twin-engine platform with cutting-edge systems will push the Kaveri engine to its limits. An intermediate twin-engine platform would allow the Kaveri engine to mature in a more forgiving environment and build a progressive foundation for the AMCA program. 3. Cost Implications of AMCA Failures Developing a twin-engine aircraft with the Kaveri engine as an intermediate step may seem costly at first, but it could save resources in the long run. If the AMCA suffers from significant engine failures or underperformance due to insufficient Kaveri testing, the IAF may face considerable additional costs for retrofitting, redesigning, or even replacing engine components post-production. Developing an intermediate Kaveri-powered platform could mitigate this risk and offer more budget stability by allowing incremental improvements based on real-world feedback. 4. Optimizing Production Timelines The IAF’s current strategy to jump directly to AMCA could face delays if the Kaveri engine reveals critical issues that need to be resolved, slowing down the entire timeline. An intermediate twin-engine project would allow India’s aerospace industry to parallelize development by addressing Kaveri’s limitations while continuing AMCA research. This way, both programs can progress with reduced dependency on each other’s schedules, leading to faster and more efficient advancements. 5. Strategic Independence and Self-Reliance Relying on the imported GE engines for Tejas aligns with India’s immediate defense needs but does little for self-reliance in critical areas like engine technology. Bypassing an intermediate twin-engine Kaveri-powered aircraft could mean that India’s indigenous engine development remains under-validated, undermining the long-term goal of self-reliant defense. By introducing a Kaveri-powered twin-engine platform, the IAF can demonstrate genuine strides in indigenous capabilities, increasing confidence in India’s ability to produce a fully indigenous AMCA down the line. Conclusion Directly advancing from the Tejas to the AMCA is an ambitious strategy, but it comes with significant risks that could impact the program’s success. Developing an intermediate twin-engine aircraft with Kaveri engines offers a phased approach, enabling essential real-world testing, reducing long-term costs, and aligning better with India’s goals of defense self-reliance. This intermediate step would allow the IAF to fully understand and refine Kaveri’s performance under twin-engine conditions, making it a more reliable option for a critical platform like the AMCA.
We will have to do both, Strong focus on developing our fighters & importing Rafael in sufficient numbers. We should also continue negotiations for getting F-35. One thing which we should avoid are delays trying to getting a dream deal. There is no such thing as a perfect deal & we should try to get one with the best possible outcome without costing us more time.
Only tedbf is possible and not orca By the time when orca comes to service at that time other countries would have started production of sixth generation fighter jet and orca is just waste of time and money .
Jo koi bhi kuch bhi kitna bhi bolta rahe, jbtak apne Kaveri engine certify ho kar production me nahi jata, sabkuch aise he atka rehne wala hai. Literally warfooting par kaam hona chahiye Kaveri par. Our engine exceeded all expectations during testing in Russia, fir bhi inlog ko usko fund dene me maut aa rahi hai.
We need to speed up the process for TEJAS MK 2 yes AMCA is development but TEJAS MK 2 is equally important with GE 414 engine or else we need to look at French SAFRAN engines 🇮🇳🤘🏻💯
3:00 What a generalized statement not expected from alpha defence...Importing 126 Rafales were anyday better than impotiy 36.That was a huge policy mistake... Can't compare the situation with Ukraine... Ukraine got f16 in war time without proper training... We can't let our present suffer for the future..Both should go simultaneously...Anyway no option now than to expect that China won't do any major aggression in next 15 yrs...
For a resilient supply chain of our own i.e. (100%) we have to wait at least 15 to 20 years compromising our national security, MRFA is an urgent need of IAF to sustain the emergency security scenario. As our 32 squadrons also deplete fast.
Russia's Nightmare Ukraine rocket drone!! This just like a glide bomb capable of taking off from a Runway using its rocket engine.. In a way it is a very fast flying bomb or a rocket assisted bomb that does not rely on fighter planes!! Fighter planes are used for bombing. In order to drop 5 tons of Ammo you require to send a 20 ton aircraft.. with a very high cost to operate and maintain!! The defense force is counting on the number of drones they obtain and use while the reality is we require countless numbers of these!!!
आज के तारीख में पूरे वर्ल्ड में ग्लोबल मार्केट का वातावरण है सभी देश एक दूसरे से आयात और निर्यात करते रहते हैं इसलिए वर्तमान समय में वायु सेना की जोर दुर्दशा है उसके लिए पूरी तरह से नरेंद्र मोदी की सरकार जिम्मेदार है
This is the first time that I am hearing monotonous news from Alpha Defence. Generally you expect a lot of research, fantastic insights from Alpha Defence but this time none was there....
No need of additional Rafaels, Increasing production (Six MK ll per month ) of MK mark ll,with french jet engines will elliviate the need of Rafaels, At same time all preproduction arrangements of AMCA should be completed, Emergency procurement of fifth generation fighter jets and their assembling side by side with production of Mark ll should be made
We should note that if India has dependence on foreign supplies, so do Pakistan. Further, we are not likely to have any conflict with either China or Pakistan in the near future and even if we have it, it will be a short term one. India will use its surface to air and surface to surface missiles and IAF in an optimal way to ensure that any inadequacies of IAF are sorted. Further, no country can be 100% fully independent in defense area but yes, on crucial items and technologies, we should be definitely atma nirbhar. Finally, never rely on USA when you need them most; rely on Israel, France and Russia in that order.
We need minimum 200 aircrafts for IAF and 50 for Navy from foreign partners to sustain for while until our ecosystems not developed for engines and assembly lines
Today Hal delivered al31 engine 😊 , we are modifying it with desi tech , improving its performance by 10 kn Turks r building their 5th gen Kaan with ge f100 which is comparable to our al31, , Ge isn’t giving us engines , I think we should start new fighter project using al31 engines
Sir i have a request can you make a counter video in rtd major avinash sahani s podcast on dostpodcast … and a counter that indian army is being scape goat of athmanirbhar bharat and make in india and our SF dont have any modernised weapon system….
Quantity has a quality of its own! IAF or Indian def forces continue to chase quality even if they can't obtain it from anywhere! and whatever they can get is in very low numbers at a very high cost! In the meanwhile they ignore Quantity but the truth is that quantity has a quality of its own and only if we are able to produce a significant quantity ourself then only we can improve and innovate!! We ignored russian engine s for western engines as a result we are stuck! DRDO continue to make false promises! A FPV drone with a 20 kg payload can be assembled for Rs 80, 000 but instead of assembling it themselves army buy it from vendors who charge 50-100 times more!! In Russia Ukrain war more than couple of million FPV drones has been utilised and they are sourcing the components from everywhere and also making it themselves!! Indian vendors are not making the components including the low tech components like motors, propellors, sensors or actuators and permanent magnets etc!!
Sir please explain more about Tejas mk2 going wind tunnel test in France again although it's developed of first prototype has already started this month and are they going to change its canards and air intake of jet although it's design is already cleared
Koi mujhe ye to btaye ki agr GE F414 engine beshak india me produce hoge pr isbaat ki kon guruntee lega ki usme bi supply chain related issues nhi hoge aur usme bi to kuch certain Raw materials aur kuch core technology components bahir se import hoge kya US usme bi to rukavat daal skta he delay kr skta he
No. Most countries are content to be dependent on Washington. But Russia and France do try to be independent and hence most of their major systems are indigenous. China is nearly there too.
Cann't drdo collaborat with isro for improving the kaveri engine as there are a lot of and significant similarities in technology of both a fighter jet engine and satellite lauching rockets engines?
Isnse pehle 10 air chief aur aye the wo bi jab jab naye airchef banr to yhi bolte the humara focas tezas fifth generation next generation fighter par rhega aur aaj inhone bi yhi bola aur inke bad wale bi yhi karenge lekin ye focus kabi bi khatam nhi hoga 😂
jab khudka engine hi nahi hai to war kaise sustain kar payenge ?? abhi tak ek partner final nahi kar paye jabki yahi engine hi sabse bada roadblock bana hua hai hamare pure fighter jets programm ka
Gaya Tejas MK1A gayi pani me 200 bas paper pe...ab MK2...200 banayenge paper pe...AMCA to bas aa gayi...vo bhi 50 aane wale hai...😅😅😅 Yehi Air chief next year dhamakedar press conferences karenge...😅😅😅
Under the present circumstances that IAF is in, even half a doz Rafael could be decisive. This is a 4.5 Gen fighter and would act as force multiplier. So 36 Rafaels could make a huge difference. Totally a wrong decision by IAF/Govt in not pushing for 36 or more Rafaels, while contnuing with TEJAS & AMCA program.
Bhai even if we take 114 Rafael we still have sufficient requirement for Texas 2 and AMCA. Plus at the moment we can't even produce Tejas 1. WTF are u talking about. No one disagrees that we have to make our own and be self sufficient
The weakness of LCA & AMCA is both GE 404 & GE 414. India needs to go get Mig 35 in interim. GTRE needs to deliver on Kaveri. I don't see any future of LCA with GE engines.
That’s going to be a train wreck of a decision. With Russia knee-deep in conflict, supply chain disruptions are guaranteed to make India rethink its choices. You won’t get your Su-30MKIs upgraded, nor will you be able to switch to any other system. So what’s left? Extending the lifespans of the Mig21 and Jaguars-again. Maybe their real strategy is to see how long they can keep flying museum exhibits before anyone notices!
@@ishaq561 mean while bhikaristan not retiring 40 year old mirages and f16s which are not even upgraded aren't they museum peices🤡🤡 but its ok you keep barking your propaganda here
@@suryanshsingh8492 Pakistan’s F-16s got a major upgrade with Turkiye’s help, turning them into top-tier Block 52-standard fighters, while India still boasts about its "upgrades" on ancient MiG-21s, Jaguars and now Su30mki. Pakistan also retired all mirage III and V except a few upgraded ones-waiting for new JF-17 Block-III, J-10C, J-31, KAAN, and our own PFX. Meanwhile, India’s still hyping its imaginary Tejas MK2 and AMCA, 4.5th-gen fighters that’s been "coming soon" for the past decade. Quite the "race," isn’t it?
@@ishaq561 🤡🤡 wow top tier and block 52 you are denying your own statement i think your dgispr chief just had a dream of f16 getting upgraded because few months ago bhikaristan was struggling to pay for spares to the us your wait will never end for pfx because its just an art peice and will never become reality and i wonder how the bhikaris will afford KAAN
It is too small -- that's what soon to be "Chief of Air Force" has to say, after 15 years of testing who is associated with this program from the beginning, we missing clarity at the very basic level....doesnt matter whoever it is MoD, AF, DRDO, HAL....🤦🤦🤦🤦 Its bizzare, frustrating, hilarious, at the same time dis-heartning to know this...that our DARPA (DRDO) and LM-Aero(HAL) just wanted to design and built something and later on pushed it down the throat of our forces....who all are behind this conceptualization of building this "so-called" "too small" aircraft just for show?? WTH? What was AF doing all these years?? To now come to the public saying it is too small? Kudos 👏👏 till now we are building just a test bed for AMCA and Tejas MK2👏👏👏👏
It surely could have been different if we could have continued with procurement of 36 more Rafale F3, modified to Indian requirement, following the option clause of that G to G procurement. The second batch of 36 Rafale could have been of lesser price than previous 36 numbers due to less the price of infrastructure & training of personnel already taken in the first batch. The supply of 72 Nos., specially Rafale fighter planes are surely a great force multiplier. Now we have nothing. Leave USA, a small country Denmark is now able to delay our Tejas MK IA delivery by it's tiny component, Engine starting charger ! What kind of planning is this. We even don't have a breathing time to develop & manufacture Tejas Mk I A, Tejas Mk II. We don't even start engine manufacturing of GE F414.( 80%TOT). They can screw us by that 20% by any time like they did with F404. Our only hope is Kaveri 2.0 engine & 110 KN new engine with Safran. Any delay in this will lead us to dark hollow.
Pagla gaya hein kya,thora toh kuch research karle bhai, india khud kuch banayega bhi yaa independence ki 78 saal hochuka haa,import hii karta rahega,aur jaha tak tu SU-57 ki baat kar raha haa,woo phele toh 5th gen ki fighter category mee ataa hein fir bhiii bohot saariii kamiya hein for example it's stealth(su-57 is far less stealthy than F22- raptor),aur most importantly at the moment,russia has a close bond with china,that means agar bharat su-57 leta bhi hein,uska bohot bara ek drawback rahega,kyuki su-57 ka technology transfer russia china ko bhi karega ek article se mene parha tha,wo eka dangerous hein humari national security kiliye,isse behtar 1 decade aur lagale fir bhi khud ka indigenous fighter plane tayar kare india
Abe chomu kab banayega su 57 best h abhi tak 360 degree ka radar bhi h ..su 30 mki se kahi Guna accha h ..or 100_200 se kya fark padega .. @@nathayan02
@@OptiMus_PrimE...p bhai dekk phele toh thik karke baat kar,aur dusri baat thora saa bhi research kar leta tha na toh accha hota,humlog shortcomings bohot jaldi se dek lete hein,paar long term pe kya hoga yehi nehi dekte,isliye azadi ke 78 saal hogaye fir bhi humlog ne ek bhi indigenous fighter jet nehi bana paye abhi tak,despite having two nuclear armed countries neighbouring us,kab attack kar de pata nehi,kab tak import karenge,agar russia ne war ke time kuch engine ya radar ya kuch bhi malfunction ho gaya toh usko bhej payega jaldi jaldi,yese bhi russia sanctions me bhugat raha ha,toh bhai gali dene se phele dobaar soch liyo aur thora geopolitics aur humara bharat ka kya jaruri uske hishab se sochna hoga,mene bhi teri tarah socha tha ki su-57 ya su-75 checkmate leta toh bohot accha rehta par mene humahare doo ex-IAF Marshall chiefs ke interview dekhi thi tab jage samjha ki india ko kya chahiye aur kya nehi,aur indigenous fighter program ko itni importance kyu de rahe hein, despite having years of delayss. Baki teri thoughts,teri opinions,no hard feelings bhai,just expressing my views!
1. Can the Indian Navy deploy the K-15 Sagarika missile through torpedo launch tubes? 2. Is it possible to equip Kalvari-class submarines with the K-15 Sagarika missile to enhance their firepower? 3. Would integrating the K-15 Sagarika missile increase the overall combat power of Kalvari-class submarines? Make video on these topic ... And my name Abhishek Raj Singh
Your video content is good as usual. But, the rot is so deep that I would only trust ANYONE, post their term and ONLY via number of Indian systems INDUCTED and SIGNED. Rest is all orchestra. I hope the new chief doesn't have any kid working in US or Europe. Also hope none of his kids are Bollywood aspirants. Sorry for the cynic vibe in this comment, but hum log doodh ke jale hai...
The root cause of IAF problem is an indigenous engine..........
Hopefully it gets better now...
GOI should start giving enormous amounts to private companies so that they dont fear losses if project fails so they help in AMCA project
GOI didn't released the fund for AMCA 😂
They should go china way and start funding government companies more. Why should our tax money should goto private companies with zero risk who than could sell the weapons back to military which would buy the inflated cost with again our tax money.
What an !d!0tic suggestion. Private companies need assurance of orders, not government money. Assurance of orders requires that the Forces take ownership of the weapons programs, instead of giving them the step-fatherly treatment currently being meted out. How many Indian weapons have cleared all user trials and still not been ordered yet? Therein lies the problem. No private company will invest in a loss making venture, no matter how much money you throw at them.
Haan technology banaye DRDO HAL fund leke jaye 2 expansionist baniya groups .
The Russian aviation industry has better machines than HAL.
OFB, DRDO labs .
Go and check machinery used
In f35 assembly you will be biting nails.
Investment zero , hopes 200%.
@@SafavidAfsharid3197 because public companies are inefficient & wastes a lot of time.
Government employees are not efficient like private employees
we should promote make in india
Nope, we should acquire 300 Rafale, Indian programs are taking long time 😎
@@flightengineer1990Rafael itna acha nahi ki sirf 4.5th generation ka hai koi 5th generation ka nahi. 36 hi bahut hai. Rafael abhi order diya toh 6 saal baad hi pure milenge.
@@perpetualprosperity2963 that's true then su 57(pr russia ke pas khud 30 se kum hai hume kya hi dega, su 75(ye to Bana bhi nhi 😂 aur shayad kabhi bane bhi na ban gaya tobhi 20 ya use kum hi honge) and f 35( ye sabse best option hai but costly)
its a mess in IAF
In a way , God wants India to work on its own home grown jets.
Take it as a challenge and keep doing the needful.
Ww2 USA made 100+ aircraft carriers , close to 3 lakh aircraft … 86000 tanks….. total of 5000 vessels … 4 billion artillery shells …. Around 2 lakh artillery pieces …. Agar ukrain Russia war ko dekh k dekh rahey hai tou bohot late se sikh rahey hai
…. War is 80 manufacturing capability and 20 % fighting ……
Sachme 100 aircraft carrier aur 3lakh aircraft the
Believe nhi hota
But hoskta hai tab ke samay aircraft carrier just faltu ke ho
Jinhe dubana easy ho
Aur aircraft bhi pahele bas bomb barsane aur machine gun se ladne ke lia use hote the to jada chahiye the ab utne ki jarurat nhi hai
1:39 Girlfriend nahi mil rhi
Import kar lijia 🤣🤣
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import kar le bhai 😂.
Import kar lijiye 😂
Import kar lijiye
Well, there you have it! After the first interview of the new air chief, it’s curtains for the Tejas Mk 1 and Mk 1A. Now, the focus has suddenly shifted to the Tejas Mk 2 and the ever-elusive AMCA.
And as for the Tejas Mk 1-cobbled together with components from Israel and Russia-well, good luck getting those now! It seems like the only thing they’re consistent at is canceling plans and chasing pipe dreams. Maybe they’ll launch a Mk 3 before the Mk 2 even leaves the drawing board!
🤡🤡🤡keep barking
sad news for bhikaristan:-
1.5 lakh bhikaris lost their gov jobs due to IMF bailout terms and conditions🤡
Hopefully 😊
jai hind jai Bharat🇮🇳
"Import kar lijiye" hit hard.
JAI HIND 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Currently we’re in a state where we’re surrounded by more than one enemy and IAF’s current inventory shows that we’re not prepared for a multi front war. Even the major projects are being delayed which is concerning. Our mistakes from the past are now pulling us downwards. The government and the armed forces need to work harder if we wish to reach a point where our military power is unbeatable in Asia.
Prime Minister Modis vision is to make India a war economy like America and Russia where war doesn't cause losses but infact helps in our revenue 🙌🔥🔥
With due respect, its ultimately the Govt/CCS that takes calls to procure aircrafts. All serving chiefs know what they want and express their intentions to equip the forces but in this case its the GOI which is delaying but there must be a bigger plan for sure.
LCA TEJAS k engines pending hai, but kya HAL engine delivery aane Tak baki aircraft assembly kar k rakh sakta hai kya , jab engine aaye Tak fit & roll-out
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There is a possibility they would but only time would tell.
+1
Next month se engine aana chalu ho jayega
Bahot saare system update karke certify karna tha wo chal raha hai
Thanks 🙏
Jai hind🇮🇳
GOI should focus on bread and butter MK2 and AMCA then TEDBF
Actually Rafael navy makes more sense TEDBF can be converted into Naval AMCA but at present this seems sensible
Dal roti is better for health 😉
Sir will kaveri 2.0 engine have thrust vectoring and super cruise capabilities?
Nah it increases maintenance. Just normal engine. Its not heavy thrust that you are asking super cruise
First we should make it to have a higher thrust so that it can be used in LCA Tejas.
TVC is not good for engine, specially for one which is gonna be in single engine config
Tejas doesn't need super cruise or thrust vectoring.... Kaveri 2.0 will not have those capabilities but the joint venture 110kn engine will have
Lets first get Kaveri 1 in order. All future iterations depend on the success of Kaveri 1.
It doesn't matter what the air chief thinks in the end it's hal and DRDO who will deliver things, so iam pretty sure they will fuckup things again and again. Forget amca theynare still struggling to deliver Tejas properly and then going to sell that planes to Asian countries 😂
Are you stupid by birth or by profession ?
The whole delay is caused by General Electric F404 engine delay rather than anything.
engine tu GHAR PE bana ke dede fir deakh kaise tejas aate hai khata khat
100% make in india is the way forward
There is a lot of hype around 5th gen fighters and AMCA but he is absolutely spot on - our main target should be Tejas mk1A and mk2, NOT AMCA. Our priority right now should be quantity. We need a huge number of these 4 and 4.5 gen fighters and also the capacity quickly repair and build new ones. Fancy aircrafts will look good on paper but fleet size will win you wars.
India - talk a lot before do
China - do a lot before talk
What talk a lot ? All countries give information on their future projects even China are stupid ?
More 5 yrs delay is good....but it must ensure that time that Mk2 is ready and amca is put into testing for 2035-50 induction timeline.
- 114 MRFA...if even 72 is imported thinking that let's fill other half with Tejas squad...it will highly damaging - Bcoz France will suck the Funding which could have been used for Our own production... INDIA is @ Better late than sorry scenario - Unlike Camel Riding Arabs ....we are not a nation with economic power. We have deliver more and greater as VishwaGuru.
NICE 🔥 🙏
Hal ko bhi refurbishment ki zarurat hai. Of course GE 'supply chain' issue ek important reason hai delay ki par har cheez uspe dala nahi ja sakta... Vayu sena ko Tejas Mk-2 and AMCA dono chahiye. HAL, DRDO aur har defence sector ke organizations ko aur efficient models apnane padhenge. Bahar ke elements ko hum control nahi kar payenge par kam se kam apna cheezo ko toh hum fully efficient bana le? Ukraine war se ek cheez pata chal gaya hai ki Russia ka war preparedness ko le kar kaafi sawal uthe hai... Hum woh galti nahi daurana chahenge.
The Indian Air Force’s (IAF) strategy to move directly from the Tejas single-engine Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) to the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) raises questions about the risks involved in bypassing an intermediate development stage. This intermediate stage would ideally include the development of a twin-engine aircraft using the indigenous Kaveri engine, which has yet to be tested in such a configuration. Here’s a critical examination of the strategic considerations in this approach:
1. Risk of Insufficient Testing for Kaveri Engines
The Kaveri engine program has faced significant challenges over its development timeline, with limitations in thrust and reliability testing. The IAF’s leap directly to AMCA, a fifth-generation stealth fighter, assumes that the Kaveri engine will perform adequately in a twin-engine setup without extensive in-field validation. An intermediate twin-engine aircraft, perhaps in the form of a prototype or limited series production, could provide the necessary data on operational durability, performance under combat conditions, and adaptability to various mission profiles. Skipping this step risks deploying unproven engines on an advanced platform, potentially compromising reliability and mission success.
2. Technology Maturity and Risk Management
The Tejas platform, while impressive, represents a different class of aircraft than the AMCA, with fewer operational complexities and lower power demands due to its single-engine design. Transitioning directly from Tejas to the AMCA increases the engineering and logistical challenges since a stealth-capable, twin-engine platform with cutting-edge systems will push the Kaveri engine to its limits. An intermediate twin-engine platform would allow the Kaveri engine to mature in a more forgiving environment and build a progressive foundation for the AMCA program.
3. Cost Implications of AMCA Failures
Developing a twin-engine aircraft with the Kaveri engine as an intermediate step may seem costly at first, but it could save resources in the long run. If the AMCA suffers from significant engine failures or underperformance due to insufficient Kaveri testing, the IAF may face considerable additional costs for retrofitting, redesigning, or even replacing engine components post-production. Developing an intermediate Kaveri-powered platform could mitigate this risk and offer more budget stability by allowing incremental improvements based on real-world feedback.
4. Optimizing Production Timelines
The IAF’s current strategy to jump directly to AMCA could face delays if the Kaveri engine reveals critical issues that need to be resolved, slowing down the entire timeline. An intermediate twin-engine project would allow India’s aerospace industry to parallelize development by addressing Kaveri’s limitations while continuing AMCA research. This way, both programs can progress with reduced dependency on each other’s schedules, leading to faster and more efficient advancements.
5. Strategic Independence and Self-Reliance
Relying on the imported GE engines for Tejas aligns with India’s immediate defense needs but does little for self-reliance in critical areas like engine technology. Bypassing an intermediate twin-engine Kaveri-powered aircraft could mean that India’s indigenous engine development remains under-validated, undermining the long-term goal of self-reliant defense. By introducing a Kaveri-powered twin-engine platform, the IAF can demonstrate genuine strides in indigenous capabilities, increasing confidence in India’s ability to produce a fully indigenous AMCA down the line.
Conclusion
Directly advancing from the Tejas to the AMCA is an ambitious strategy, but it comes with significant risks that could impact the program’s success. Developing an intermediate twin-engine aircraft with Kaveri engines offers a phased approach, enabling essential real-world testing, reducing long-term costs, and aligning better with India’s goals of defense self-reliance. This intermediate step would allow the IAF to fully understand and refine Kaveri’s performance under twin-engine conditions, making it a more reliable option for a critical platform like the AMCA.
We should refer to AMCA as - "Bhramara" the embodiment of precision, agility, and the untamed spirit of flight.
We love importers
Turk,Persian,Afghan,Mughal,Portuguese,France,British. After 1947 Our people are loot opportunists.
We will have to do both, Strong focus on developing our fighters & importing Rafael in sufficient numbers. We should also continue negotiations for getting F-35. One thing which we should avoid are delays trying to getting a dream deal. There is no such thing as a perfect deal & we should try to get one with the best possible outcome without costing us more time.
Jai hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Hope....
Trump coming to power is best for engine deals.
As per sources Air Chief spoke precisely quote unquote " Atmanirbharata is good but not in the expense of National Security, that's priority "
Hope Amca, tedbf, mrfa, orca,lca tejas mk2,imrh ... indigenous fighter engines are fast paced in these upcoming years 😢❤
Only tedbf is possible and not orca By the time when orca comes to service at that time other countries would have started production of sixth generation fighter jet and orca is just waste of time and money .
No mention of MRFA..as I mentioned earlier, MRFA was only pushed by VK Chaudhari...Since he has retired I think MRFA is done and dusted
Jo koi bhi kuch bhi kitna bhi bolta rahe, jbtak apne Kaveri engine certify ho kar production me nahi jata, sabkuch aise he atka rehne wala hai.
Literally warfooting par kaam hona chahiye Kaveri par. Our engine exceeded all expectations during testing in Russia, fir bhi inlog ko usko fund dene me maut aa rahi hai.
We need to speed up the process for TEJAS MK 2 yes AMCA is development but TEJAS MK 2 is equally important with GE 414 engine or else we need to look at French SAFRAN engines 🇮🇳🤘🏻💯
3:00 What a generalized statement not expected from alpha defence...Importing 126 Rafales were anyday better than impotiy 36.That was a huge policy mistake... Can't compare the situation with Ukraine... Ukraine got f16 in war time without proper training...
We can't let our present suffer for the future..Both should go simultaneously...Anyway no option now than to expect that China won't do any major aggression in next 15 yrs...
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For a resilient supply chain of our own i.e. (100%) we have to wait at least 15 to 20 years compromising our national security, MRFA is an urgent need of IAF to sustain the emergency security scenario. As our 32 squadrons also deplete fast.
Russia's Nightmare Ukraine rocket drone!! This just like a glide bomb capable of taking off from a Runway using its rocket engine.. In a way it is a very fast flying bomb or a rocket assisted bomb that does not rely on fighter planes!!
Fighter planes are used for bombing. In order to drop 5 tons of Ammo you require to send a 20 ton aircraft.. with a very high cost to operate and maintain!!
The defense force is counting on the number of drones they obtain and use while the reality is we require countless numbers of these!!!
Yes ukraine is winning😂
आज के तारीख में पूरे वर्ल्ड में ग्लोबल मार्केट का वातावरण है सभी देश एक दूसरे से आयात और निर्यात करते रहते हैं इसलिए वर्तमान समय में वायु सेना की जोर दुर्दशा है उसके लिए पूरी तरह से नरेंद्र मोदी की सरकार जिम्मेदार है
This is the first time that I am hearing monotonous news from Alpha Defence. Generally you expect a lot of research, fantastic insights from Alpha Defence but this time none was there....
Air Marshall AP singh knows he will retire before any Indian jets joins the service
Bhai AMCA jab aayega tab aayega ... MRFA ka kya? Abhi aur kaha test karoge? Neptune pei?
Tejas mk2 pr abi kam shuru nhi hua lakin. Indians hype create krnny ma bht. Agay h
Kaveri ko funding dila do re koi.🥺
govt ne MRFA na karke ab already gamble kar diya hai ki agle 5 saal koi conflict nahi hogi. bas ab TEDBF ko clear kar de usme hee khush ho jaunga.
No need of additional Rafaels, Increasing production
(Six MK ll per month ) of MK mark ll,with french jet engines will elliviate the need of Rafaels,
At same time all preproduction arrangements of AMCA should be completed,
Emergency procurement of fifth generation fighter jets and their assembling side by side with production of Mark ll should be made
We should note that if India has dependence on foreign supplies, so do Pakistan. Further, we are not likely to have any conflict with either China or Pakistan in the near future and even if we have it, it will be a short term one. India will use its surface to air and surface to surface missiles and IAF in an optimal way to ensure that any inadequacies of IAF are sorted. Further, no country can be 100% fully independent in defense area but yes, on crucial items and technologies, we should be definitely atma nirbhar. Finally, never rely on USA when you need them most; rely on Israel, France and Russia in that order.
Wo LCA ke engines ka kya hua?
We need minimum 200 aircrafts for IAF and 50 for Navy from foreign partners to sustain for while until our ecosystems not developed for engines and assembly lines
We need 500 fighter aircraft, wake up from stupid dreams! This is not movie! 😎
Today Hal delivered al31 engine 😊 , we are modifying it with desi tech , improving its performance by 10 kn
Turks r building their 5th gen Kaan with ge f100 which is comparable to our al31, ,
Ge isn’t giving us engines , I think we should start new fighter project using al31 engines
Sir i have a request can you make a counter video in rtd major avinash sahani s podcast on dostpodcast … and a counter that indian army is being scape goat of athmanirbhar bharat and make in india and our SF dont have any modernised weapon system….
Quantity has a quality of its own! IAF or Indian def forces continue to chase quality even if they can't obtain it from anywhere! and whatever they can get is in very low numbers at a very high cost! In the meanwhile they ignore Quantity but the truth is that quantity has a quality of its own and only if we are able to produce a significant quantity ourself then only we can improve and innovate!!
We ignored russian engine s for western engines as a result we are stuck! DRDO continue to make false promises!
A FPV drone with a 20 kg payload can be assembled for Rs 80, 000 but instead of assembling it themselves army buy it from vendors who charge 50-100 times more!!
In Russia Ukrain war more than couple of million FPV drones has been utilised and they are sourcing the components from everywhere and also making it themselves!!
Indian vendors are not making the components including the low tech components like motors, propellors, sensors or actuators and permanent magnets etc!!
Gripen ka bhi aisa hi haal hai...supply chain, waise har fighter ka haal aisa hai
Sir please explain more about Tejas mk2 going wind tunnel test in France again although it's developed of first prototype has already started this month and are they going to change its canards and air intake of jet although it's design is already cleared
*हमारी राजमाता भी तो Imported हैं !😂😂👍*
Chamcho ki Rajmata he bo 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hum to itney badey importer hai ki humarey leader of opposition v imported hai😂
If engines are not available for fighter aircraft, why there is smooth supply for commercial aircrafts!?
Are u brain dead? who doesnt understand military aviation industry vs commercial
Jab tk Rahe ga samosay me Aalu Tejas samosa nai hoga chalu😂😝😛
I hope he's better than last chief..
there is thousands and thousands intro videos of AMCA and mk2, even though it's just a picture
Koi mujhe ye to btaye ki agr GE F414 engine beshak india me produce hoge pr isbaat ki kon guruntee lega ki usme bi supply chain related issues nhi hoge aur usme bi to kuch certain Raw materials aur kuch core technology components bahir se import hoge kya US usme bi to rukavat daal skta he delay kr skta he
I think there is no country where all 100% of the components are indigenous..
No. Most countries are content to be dependent on Washington. But Russia and France do try to be independent and hence most of their major systems are indigenous. China is nearly there too.
Cann't drdo collaborat with isro for improving the kaveri engine as there are a lot of and significant similarities in technology of both a fighter jet engine and satellite lauching rockets engines?
ISRO do not have tech needed for jet engine
Rocket engine is simpler than jet engine..it seems
Isnse pehle 10 air chief aur aye the wo bi jab jab naye airchef banr to yhi bolte the humara focas tezas fifth generation next generation fighter par rhega aur aaj inhone bi yhi bola aur inke bad wale bi yhi karenge lekin ye focus kabi bi khatam nhi hoga 😂
The placement of canards in tejas mk2 models is not in good placed.. It can't move fully due to the wings of the jet..
This is what I've been saying from the start.
jab khudka engine hi nahi hai to war kaise sustain kar payenge ?? abhi tak ek partner final nahi kar paye jabki yahi engine hi sabse bada roadblock bana hua hai hamare pure fighter jets programm ka
Gaya Tejas MK1A gayi pani me 200 bas paper pe...ab MK2...200 banayenge paper pe...AMCA to bas aa gayi...vo bhi 50 aane wale hai...😅😅😅
Yehi Air chief next year dhamakedar press conferences karenge...😅😅😅
400 tejas mk 2 250 amca 250 orca 250 tedbf should induct in next 10 year
F 16 aur Rafael bahut bara antar hai..,36 Rafael aur Lena chaiye tha...Tejas to on production hai hi
Under the present circumstances that IAF is in, even half a doz Rafael could be decisive. This is a 4.5 Gen fighter and would act as force multiplier. So 36 Rafaels could make a huge difference. Totally a wrong decision by IAF/Govt in not pushing for 36 or more Rafaels, while contnuing with TEJAS & AMCA program.
Bhai even if we take 114 Rafael we still have sufficient requirement for Texas 2 and AMCA. Plus at the moment we can't even produce Tejas 1. WTF are u talking about. No one disagrees that we have to make our own and be self sufficient
The weakness of LCA & AMCA is both GE 404 & GE 414. India needs to go get Mig 35 in interim. GTRE needs to deliver on Kaveri. I don't see any future of LCA with GE engines.
IAF ka kuch nahi hone wala... they are incapable of taking right decisions at right time...
New Air Chief Might go for MRFA or additional Su30 mki Super sukhoi variants. What do you think?
That’s going to be a train wreck of a decision. With Russia knee-deep in conflict, supply chain disruptions are guaranteed to make India rethink its choices. You won’t get your Su-30MKIs upgraded, nor will you be able to switch to any other system. So what’s left? Extending the lifespans of the Mig21 and Jaguars-again. Maybe their real strategy is to see how long they can keep flying museum exhibits before anyone notices!
@@ishaq561 mean while bhikaristan not retiring 40 year old mirages and f16s which are not even upgraded aren't they museum peices🤡🤡
but its ok you keep barking your propaganda here
@@suryanshsingh8492 Pakistan’s F-16s got a major upgrade with Turkiye’s help, turning them into top-tier Block 52-standard fighters, while India still boasts about its "upgrades" on ancient MiG-21s, Jaguars and now Su30mki.
Pakistan also retired all mirage III and V except a few upgraded ones-waiting for new JF-17 Block-III, J-10C, J-31, KAAN, and our own PFX.
Meanwhile, India’s still hyping its imaginary Tejas MK2 and AMCA, 4.5th-gen fighters that’s been "coming soon" for the past decade. Quite the "race," isn’t it?
@@ishaq561bhai where do you get your analysis from. India produced engine in India license made. Today 1st unit is delivered of 240 engines ordered.
@@ishaq561 🤡🤡
wow top tier and block 52 you are denying your own statement
i think your dgispr chief just had a dream of f16 getting upgraded because few months ago bhikaristan was struggling to pay for spares to the us
your wait will never end for pfx because its just an art peice and will never become reality and i wonder how the bhikaris will afford KAAN
India ne 35 sal mein mk1 Nahin banaya to 30 sal mk2 kaise banega😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pakistan even don't manage PAL (Pakistani airline ). How can the manage Air force.😂😂😂
It is too small -- that's what soon to be "Chief of Air Force" has to say, after 15 years of testing who is associated with this program from the beginning, we missing clarity at the very basic level....doesnt matter whoever it is MoD, AF, DRDO, HAL....🤦🤦🤦🤦
Its bizzare, frustrating, hilarious, at the same time dis-heartning to know this...that our DARPA (DRDO) and LM-Aero(HAL) just wanted to design and built something and later on pushed it down the throat of our forces....who all are behind this conceptualization of building this "so-called" "too small" aircraft just for show?? WTH?
What was AF doing all these years?? To now come to the public saying it is too small? Kudos 👏👏 till now we are building just a test bed for AMCA and Tejas MK2👏👏👏👏
Air chief without aircraft😂😂😂😂
It surely could have been different if we could have continued with procurement of 36 more Rafale F3, modified to Indian requirement, following the option clause of that G to G procurement. The second batch of 36 Rafale could have been of lesser price than previous 36 numbers due to less the price of infrastructure & training of personnel already taken in the first batch.
The supply of 72 Nos., specially Rafale fighter planes are surely a great force multiplier.
Now we have nothing. Leave USA, a small country Denmark is now able to delay our Tejas MK IA delivery by it's tiny component, Engine starting charger ! What kind of planning is this. We even don't have a breathing time to develop & manufacture Tejas Mk I A, Tejas Mk II. We don't even start engine manufacturing of GE F414.( 80%TOT). They can screw us by that 20% by any time like they did with F404. Our only hope is Kaveri 2.0 engine & 110 KN new engine with Safran. Any delay in this will lead us to dark hollow.
24 aircraft annually and monthly 3 aircraft 😂😂😂
Rafael urgent need.
Hi, sorry to ping in this video but could you please advise if RBU-6000 is a good weapon system for Indian navy?
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Please import su57 at least 4/5 squadrons..
Only possible if al51 engine is integrated by next year + AMCA delays more. So very less chance
Pagla gaya hein kya,thora toh kuch research karle bhai, india khud kuch banayega bhi yaa independence ki 78 saal hochuka haa,import hii karta rahega,aur jaha tak tu SU-57 ki baat kar raha haa,woo phele toh 5th gen ki fighter category mee ataa hein fir bhiii bohot saariii kamiya hein for example it's stealth(su-57 is far less stealthy than F22- raptor),aur most importantly at the moment,russia has a close bond with china,that means agar bharat su-57 leta bhi hein,uska bohot bara ek drawback rahega,kyuki su-57 ka technology transfer russia china ko bhi karega ek article se mene parha tha,wo eka dangerous hein humari national security kiliye,isse behtar 1 decade aur lagale fir bhi khud ka indigenous fighter plane tayar kare india
Abe chomu kab banayega su 57 best h abhi tak 360 degree ka radar bhi h ..su 30 mki se kahi Guna accha h ..or 100_200 se kya fark padega .. @@nathayan02
@@OptiMus_PrimE...p bhai dekk phele toh thik karke baat kar,aur dusri baat thora saa bhi research kar leta tha na toh accha hota,humlog shortcomings bohot jaldi se dek lete hein,paar long term pe kya hoga yehi nehi dekte,isliye azadi ke 78 saal hogaye fir bhi humlog ne ek bhi indigenous fighter jet nehi bana paye abhi tak,despite having two nuclear armed countries neighbouring us,kab attack kar de pata nehi,kab tak import karenge,agar russia ne war ke time kuch engine ya radar ya kuch bhi malfunction ho gaya toh usko bhej payega jaldi jaldi,yese bhi russia sanctions me bhugat raha ha,toh bhai gali dene se phele dobaar soch liyo aur thora geopolitics aur humara bharat ka kya jaruri uske hishab se sochna hoga,mene bhi teri tarah socha tha ki su-57 ya su-75 checkmate leta toh bohot accha rehta par mene humahare doo ex-IAF Marshall chiefs ke interview dekhi thi tab jage samjha ki india ko kya chahiye aur kya nehi,aur indigenous fighter program ko itni importance kyu de rahe hein, despite having years of delayss.
Baki teri thoughts,teri opinions,no hard feelings bhai,just expressing my views!
New Chief, Same backchodi 😂
Still no video about jf17 sale to Azerbaijan
This indian defence channel not chinese
We like JF17 Thunder Pakistan Air Force Zindabad 🇵🇰🇵🇰
1. Can the Indian Navy deploy the K-15 Sagarika missile through torpedo launch tubes?
2. Is it possible to equip Kalvari-class submarines with the K-15 Sagarika missile to enhance their firepower?
3. Would integrating the K-15 Sagarika missile increase the overall combat power of Kalvari-class submarines?
Make video on these topic ...
And my name Abhishek Raj Singh
1,Only brahmos NG (for submarine vision ) DRDO development.
2 , Kaveri submarine don't have VLS system ( k 15 missile cannot be used on it )
Lekin Rahul pappu to keh raha tha ki sikhon ki koi importance India me nahi hain. Inhe phatka tak pehenne nahi diya jata.
Why our India is always late in developing anything?
Because iq😂
@@小易-l2xhigher then Chinese people cause we don’t eat cat
main gurrenty deta hunn 20-30 se pahle tejas mk2 hum nahi dekh payenge
Your video content is good as usual. But, the rot is so deep that I would only trust ANYONE, post their term and ONLY via number of Indian systems INDUCTED and SIGNED. Rest is all orchestra. I hope the new chief doesn't have any kid working in US or Europe. Also hope none of his kids are Bollywood aspirants. Sorry for the cynic vibe in this comment, but hum log doodh ke jale hai...
Barking more do nothing that is reality
मुंगेरी लाल के हसीन सपने.....😂😂
Aplog nahi hum log