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Vegeta was definitely the strongest of all the Z fighters at this point. He might lose once in awhile but he always comes back stronger than ever the next fight. Gotta love that never give up attitude!
@@Antoniodagreat It's true. You can check the original manga, Trunks said this himself and it's reasonable because the history has changed drastically. The android are much less evil and in the same time, they are stronger. Future Gohan is not that strong... he is the same level as Trunks, while Goku since coming back to earth (in Yadarat suit) is superior than him.
@@CrystalMooGamingChannel not true the future androids never went all out on trunks before he travel back the first time around ..look at future Android 17 in the manga against future gohan he told him he was using less than half his strength ..he powered up and killed gohan alone
@Antoniodagreat Sorry but that is a misinformation fans have made up and spread in the fandom, and is not true. The Present Androids are stronger than the future ones. When Trunks says that, he is referring to the times he fought them, and was able to at least do something little against them, while these one destroyed him with one blow. We never saw these fights in the manga, so you cannot say they held back any more than these present ones did. That is just headcanon, and is not even the point in this scene. These androids being stronger than the future ones is part of the plotline that there are changes to history due to time travel; extra androids, heartvirus delayed, stronger androids, not as savage androids (willing to fight 1on1 + they didn’t kill them for amusement like in the future). Stating that randomly one of those things is wrong because of headcanon is ridiculous and missing the entire point of the story, and is complicating a simple scene for no reason. Them being stronger has never been refuted, thus it is true, and is part of the story telling. Trunks had no chance against the Future Androids either, but he could gauge their strength by the weight of their attacks etc, and was able to immediately come to the conclusion that they were stronger in the present.
Vegeta's comedy is underrated, and you have a true point in the special History of Trunks. Future Gohan showed he could take one of Androids. But they were holding back, but I think Gohan might have had a chance. When he was fighting 17, he was surprised by Gohan's aggressiveness, and then 18 jumped in. we know what happened after that. Love your guy's reaction to Maron 😂😂😂 Another difference is that these Androids are a lot more patient, 17 allowed 18 to battle Vegeta alone. if it was in the history timeline of Trunks, they would have double-teamed everybody wipe them out without a second thought. They're not killing machines in the present timeline.
It's nice to see y'all's channel growing... I remember when you only had less them 20 subscribers. Congrats guys and hope y'all grow much bigger. Much love 💕💕 from the bottom of my heart.
@@KaizenReactionshe doesn’t. Only 17 and 18 happened in his time and they weren’t ever beat by this point. 16, 19 and 20 (gero android version) happened in this time cause trunks interrupted the timeline so it created an alternate reality in another timeline
this vegeta would have probably one from the androids of trunks timeline atleast in a one on one fight because this vegeta is stronger than the vegeta of trunks timeline due to intensive training but due to trunks changing the history these androids are more stronger than the android 17 and 18 from trunks timeline.
I love how much content you've been pushing out recently and the consistent uploads. Keep 'em coming bro this is starting to become one of my favorite channels
I love to watch the fight between Vegeta and Android 18 and I also love how Vegeta speak to Android 18 during their battle. I was watching all episodes from Dragon ball Z as a kid and I watching Androids saga every episode was great and I always enjoy watching Dragon Ball Z episodes especially Androids saga which is my favorite next to Namek Saga. I love to watch your reactions and you have my full support I am a big Dragon Ball Z fan and also your fan!!!😊❤️
It really is an awesome saga man, so many weird stuff going on for first time viewers it is amazing! Thank you for your support too, we really appreciate that man! 😄
At the beginning of the fight : SSJ Vegeta " so you're first. Be sure that I won't go easy on you because you're a girl. You're not even a human, just a shitty android." 8:49 sukebe means pervert. Perfect for Muten Roshi 😂 After Vegeta mocking 17 : 18 " Shall we continue?" SSJ Vegeta "Of course !" 18 "That's the spirit" And 18:49 Vegeta's scream is not bad. Sabat made quite a good scream but he can't beat Ryo Horikawa, the best Vegeta of the world. Personal opinion by the way. I read in the comments that 17 and 18 are not stronger than their future parts. That's wrong and noticed in the manga. Even if 17 explained to Mirai Gohan that they used less than 50% of their power there're still inferior than the present. Just watch the next episode and you'll change your mind
You can already see a tiny difference between the androids of the present and the ones in the future. In the Future the Androids double teamed Gohan and Trunks immediately and had no issue figting 2vs1. Whereas here #18 fought alone and 17 made even a deal to not step in unless more than one started fighting 18, meaning they care about fairness a bit! More of that in the next episode😎
If it wasnt for their infinite energy i wonder if vegeta could have possibly won this fight if he fought smart, there were moments he seemed to have the upper hand, but then again we all know what happens in a fight later down the line so maybe not.
@KaizenReactions yeah I agree vegetas a badass like that, been watching you guys from the get go, my favourite video so far was watching you both see gokus first time going ssj1, I still get chills like its the first time I ever saw it like when I was a kid, keep up the great reactions and ill keep on watching 👍
If Android 18 wanted to kill him she could have done so a long time ago, she's just playing with him, He would die if he had to fight more than one Android. 17 is a little stronger than 18.
Vegeta tried so hard to take down Android 18, yet he realizes that he's no match against her. Trunks warned him a bunch of times to never underestimate the Androids power, but he refuses! Next movies 6 & 7!!
Actually, Trunks mentioned that the Androids in the present are stronger than the ones in his time. So I doubt future Gohan could take one of them on 1v1.
I ask Google and I found this. Can future Gohan beat one of the Androids in the present time-line one on one 👇🏿 Answer: No Future Gohan is not able to defeat any of the Androids in Dragon Ball Z, even in a one-on-one battle. Future Gohan has less than half the strength of Future Androids 17 and 18, and even if he achieves Super Saiyan 2 status, he would still not be able to defeat them. The manga implies that Future Gohan would not have stood a chance against the Androids, even with both arms. However, in the anime continuity, Future Gohan is stronger than Future 17 and Future 18 individually. In the anime, Gohan overwhelms them both and gains the advantage. 🤔 Don't get upset I don't know if it's true or not but I was curious to research it.
And so, one of the Earth’s greatest warriors has vanished in a blinding flash of light. Having made the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of his loved ones. His name was Vegeta; a proud Saiyan Prince!
@@KaizenReactions What makes you think so? Gohan trained and thought he'd gotten strong enough to fight the androids, but they revealed they weren't even using half their power previously. Gohan, at best, was fractionally superior to 17 and 18 at half power. I am very much enjoying following this series with you both.
@@SimianWonder Oh yeah you're right if it is the manga canon version then! I was talking about the special where he pretty much went toe to toe with 1 android. But Gohan doesn't stand a chance canonically :) Also thanks a lot man!
@@SimianWonderTrue, and Gohan could only go toe to toe with the androids because of how many times they spared his life They gave him a lot of zenkai boost but unfortunately it wasn’t enough to take them on
Ill say it again but Krillin and everyone needs to not depend only on Goku all the time it seems a bit cowardly like they’re just giving up without trying to think of a decent strategy for fighting their enemies. Besides Goku gets too much spotlight as it is.
This is the problem with DBZ as it continues. Granted, Krillin, Tsien, Yamcha, and Piccolo aren’t comparable to Super Saiyans, but there had to be some way they could learn new techniques or mystical powers to keep up.
@@chrisbullard5901 krilli and yakcha are humans they have limts ther enow ay they can get to level of ssj tien will he never be gum man level i say gum man to not splier things
Well,he is the strongest so that,s why he get,s the spotlight.Cowardly,no they are smart,they all understand that they can,t win so why should they risk their lives for no reason.Being a coward is not always wrong.A person should understand reality and live according to it but some people still live in false reality.
That's why later in the end of this saga and in Buu saga, Goku don't want to be wish back. He just want everyone not to depend on him. And also wants the next generation to be able to defend themselves.
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The art changes because there are many animators work on the episodes, and each animator has their own drawing style
Vegeta was definitely the strongest of all the Z fighters at this point. He might lose once in awhile but he always comes back stronger than ever the next fight. Gotta love that never give up attitude!
17&18 in this timeline are stronger than their counterparts from trunks’ future timeline
False the future androids always held back trunks never fought them at full power
yeah, bc the history has changed
@@Antoniodagreat It's true. You can check the original manga, Trunks said this himself and it's reasonable because the history has changed drastically. The android are much less evil and in the same time, they are stronger. Future Gohan is not that strong... he is the same level as Trunks, while Goku since coming back to earth (in Yadarat suit) is superior than him.
@@CrystalMooGamingChannel not true the future androids never went all out on trunks before he travel back the first time around ..look at future Android 17 in the manga against future gohan he told him he was using less than half his strength ..he powered up and killed gohan alone
@Antoniodagreat
Sorry but that is a misinformation fans have made up and spread in the fandom, and is not true. The Present Androids are stronger than the future ones.
When Trunks says that, he is referring to the times he fought them, and was able to at least do something little against them, while these one destroyed him with one blow. We never saw these fights in the manga, so you cannot say they held back any more than these present ones did. That is just headcanon, and is not even the point in this scene.
These androids being stronger than the future ones is part of the plotline that there are changes to history due to time travel; extra androids, heartvirus delayed, stronger androids, not as savage androids (willing to fight 1on1 + they didn’t kill them for amusement like in the future).
Stating that randomly one of those things is wrong because of headcanon is ridiculous and missing the entire point of the story, and is complicating a simple scene for no reason. Them being stronger has never been refuted, thus it is true, and is part of the story telling. Trunks had no chance against the Future Androids either, but he could gauge their strength by the weight of their attacks etc, and was able to immediately come to the conclusion that they were stronger in the present.
17:49
that's sumn that happens with these episodes where they'll have art from different animators working on said episode
Man this episode made me fall in love 18. But just her fighting abilities. 😰
here comes the 4 ass whoopins lmfao
N°16 forever 🌳🕊️🐿️🐈🐕
Vegeta's comedy is underrated, and you have a true point in the special History of Trunks.
Future Gohan showed he could take one of Androids.
But they were holding back, but I think Gohan might have had a chance. When he was fighting 17, he was surprised by Gohan's aggressiveness, and then 18 jumped in. we know what happened after that.
Love your guy's reaction to Maron 😂😂😂
Another difference is that these Androids are a lot more patient, 17 allowed 18 to battle Vegeta alone. if it was in the history timeline of Trunks, they would have double-teamed everybody wipe them out without a second thought.
They're not killing machines in the present timeline.
It's nice to see y'all's channel growing... I remember when you only had less them 20 subscribers. Congrats guys and hope y'all grow much bigger.
Much love 💕💕 from the bottom of my heart.
Thanks a ton for the kind comment man, that makes us very happy! 😄
This version of #17 & #18 are way more powerful than their Trunks' timeline counterparts. Trunks does confirm this at some point.
That's why he is able to probably beat 1 android in his own timeline bro.
@@KaizenReactionsNo he is not
You have watched History of Trunks movie did you not?
@@KaizenReactionshe doesn’t. Only 17 and 18 happened in his time and they weren’t ever beat by this point. 16, 19 and 20 (gero android version) happened in this time cause trunks interrupted the timeline so it created an alternate reality in another timeline
12:55 - oh no girl, 16 has his own will, but has to face Goku for programátion..
Vegeta got a huge beatdown bigtime 18 sure showed him
vegeta needed a reality check be humbled I couldn't stand him in this arc
18:24 - i nullified everything..
17 and 18 in the present timeline aren't as ruthless as their future counterparts
one thing many have missed,this version of android 18 and 17 are way more stronger then the future ones.
Great reactions. 👍
geetz is from dbz abridged
Trunks warned Vegeta not to underestimate the androids and he got what he deserved, a painful lesson
Vegeta's brain and ego are way slower than his fists.
Trunks is stupid and told and can't beat the androids without Goku assuring the Vegeta would fight them alone
@@smdownh9 Trunks is not stupid, his father is. If Vegeta hadn't ignored his warnings about the Androids, none of this wouldn't have happened.
this vegeta would have probably one from the androids of trunks timeline atleast in a one on one fight because this vegeta is stronger than the vegeta of trunks timeline due to intensive training but due to trunks changing the history these androids are more stronger than the android 17 and 18 from trunks timeline.
@@mrsirqb1793 Trunks is stupid what he said was assured to make Vegeta respond the way he did argue with a wall
I love how much content you've been pushing out recently and the consistent uploads. Keep 'em coming bro this is starting to become one of my favorite channels
We appreciate that man that makes us very happy, thank you!! We will try and be more consistent than ever, so expect daily uploads 😄
@@KaizenReactions Great video guys, I told you 18’s a beauty… I mean a beast in combat.
I love to watch the fight between Vegeta and Android 18 and I also love how Vegeta speak to Android 18 during their battle. I was watching all episodes from Dragon ball Z as a kid and I watching Androids saga every episode was great and I always enjoy watching Dragon Ball Z episodes especially Androids saga which is my favorite next to Namek Saga. I love to watch your reactions and you have my full support I am a big Dragon Ball Z fan and also your fan!!!😊❤️
It really is an awesome saga man, so many weird stuff going on for first time viewers it is amazing! Thank you for your support too, we really appreciate that man! 😄
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Wow, thanks man! 😄
At the beginning of the fight :
SSJ Vegeta " so you're first. Be sure that I won't go easy on you because you're a girl. You're not even a human, just a shitty android."
8:49 sukebe means pervert. Perfect for Muten Roshi 😂
After Vegeta mocking 17 :
18 " Shall we continue?"
SSJ Vegeta "Of course !"
18 "That's the spirit"
And 18:49 Vegeta's scream is not bad. Sabat made quite a good scream but he can't beat Ryo Horikawa, the best Vegeta of the world. Personal opinion by the way.
I read in the comments that 17 and 18 are not stronger than their future parts. That's wrong and noticed in the manga. Even if 17 explained to Mirai Gohan that they used less than 50% of their power there're still inferior than the present. Just watch the next episode and you'll change your mind
Vegeta is pain.
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Thanks a lot man, that support made me happy too! :) Appreciated dude!
That was satisfying seeing Vegeta get his ass kicked by 18 after talking all that trash and making metal jokes.🤣 I was rooting for 18 the entire time
You can already see a tiny difference between the androids of the present and the ones in the future.
In the Future the Androids double teamed Gohan and Trunks immediately and had no issue figting 2vs1. Whereas here #18 fought alone and 17 made even a deal to not step in unless more than one started fighting 18, meaning they care about fairness a bit!
More of that in the next episode😎
If it wasnt for their infinite energy i wonder if vegeta could have possibly won this fight if he fought smart, there were moments he seemed to have the upper hand, but then again we all know what happens in a fight later down the line so maybe not.
I think he could, he just got tired but he did pretty well until the android had better stamina and she just overpowered him that way :)
@KaizenReactions yeah I agree vegetas a badass like that, been watching you guys from the get go, my favourite video so far was watching you both see gokus first time going ssj1, I still get chills like its the first time I ever saw it like when I was a kid, keep up the great reactions and ill keep on watching 👍
@@Aaron-ze1io Thank you very much my friend, that makes our day! 😄 Also yeah, Vegeta is definitely built different man!!
Future Gohan could probably beat the androids in his time one-on-one, but these ones are significantly stronger in this timeline.
Yes definitely bro, that's what I meant. Not these androids from the past but his own timeline 😄
If Android 18 wanted to kill him she could have done so a long time ago, she's just playing with him, He would die if he had to fight more than one Android. 17 is a little stronger than 18.
Watchout with the spoilers! So far 16 has been stated to be weaker than 17, thats all
Spoilers brah, edit the part about 16 out.
Everything of accusations, not the rest..
Vegeta tried so hard to take down Android 18, yet he realizes that he's no match against her. Trunks warned him a bunch of times to never underestimate the Androids power, but he refuses!
Next movies 6 & 7!!
Vegeta had it coming. He got too arrogant for his own good. Good job 18 👍🏻
Not to mention cocky and incompetent.
Actually, Trunks mentioned that the Androids in the present are stronger than the ones in his time. So I doubt future Gohan could take one of them on 1v1.
But they weren’t they always held back against trunks and future gohan
@@Antoniodagreat you got a point there, bud.
I ask Google and I found this. Can future Gohan beat one of the Androids in the present time-line one on one 👇🏿
Answer: No Future Gohan is not able to defeat any of the Androids in Dragon Ball Z, even in a one-on-one battle. Future Gohan has less than half the strength of Future Androids 17 and 18, and even if he achieves Super Saiyan 2 status, he would still not be able to defeat them. The manga implies that Future Gohan would not have stood a chance against the Androids, even with both arms.
However, in the anime continuity, Future Gohan is stronger than Future 17 and Future 18 individually. In the anime, Gohan overwhelms them both and gains the advantage.
🤔 Don't get upset I don't know if it's true or not but I was curious to research it.
And they’re screwed
Vegeta got his butt kicked 😅
And so, one of the Earth’s greatest warriors has vanished in a blinding flash of light. Having made the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of his loved ones. His name was Vegeta; a proud Saiyan Prince!
Future Gohan had zero chance against either android.
He 100% had a chance against the androids in his timeline. 1 v 1 he definitely had a chance.
@@KaizenReactions What makes you think so? Gohan trained and thought he'd gotten strong enough to fight the androids, but they revealed they weren't even using half their power previously.
Gohan, at best, was fractionally superior to 17 and 18 at half power.
I am very much enjoying following this series with you both.
@@SimianWonder Oh yeah you're right if it is the manga canon version then! I was talking about the special where he pretty much went toe to toe with 1 android. But Gohan doesn't stand a chance canonically :) Also thanks a lot man!
@@SimianWonderTrue, and Gohan could only go toe to toe with the androids because of how many times they spared his life
They gave him a lot of zenkai boost but unfortunately it wasn’t enough to take them on
Lol if I was Trunks I couldn't tolerate Vegeta's bs no longer.
Vegeta can be an idiot at times
can you please increase the voice of dbz too cz ur voice is too loud to hear that
I would do it, but I get copyright strikes if I turn up the volume
Ill say it again but Krillin and everyone needs to not depend only on Goku all the time it seems a bit cowardly like they’re just giving up without trying to think of a decent strategy for fighting their enemies. Besides Goku gets too much spotlight as it is.
This is the problem with DBZ as it continues. Granted, Krillin, Tsien, Yamcha, and Piccolo aren’t comparable to Super Saiyans, but there had to be some way they could learn new techniques or mystical powers to keep up.
@@chrisbullard5901 krilli and yakcha are humans they have limts ther enow ay they can get to level of ssj tien will he never be gum man level i say gum man to not splier things
Well,he is the strongest so that,s why he get,s the spotlight.Cowardly,no they are smart,they all understand that they can,t win so why should they risk their lives for no reason.Being a coward is not always wrong.A person should understand reality and live according to it but some people still live in false reality.
That's why later in the end of this saga and in Buu saga, Goku don't want to be wish back. He just want everyone not to depend on him. And also wants the next generation to be able to defend themselves.
@CrystalMooGamingChannel vegeta wants that too. He even said people should start to save themselves
What happens is that androids have unlimited energy, that's why they have the advantage while Vegeta decreases little by little.
Vegeta is _REALLY_ losing points for this!