Best part about him as he’s grown is his attitude. Brian must have put a couple good ass whoopins on him when he needed it he’s a great example for the sport right now. Could have gone really wrong. Went really great instead the deegans did it right.
@@nathanpodmore4602 predictions have been made. Deegan has no where else to go but to the Top of His Sport. those other boys are just going to have to except this Fact.
Stoked you guys got to do an extended hangout session. I know how valuable that amount of time is for both camps and totally appreciate the effort to document it. I doesn't hurt when multiple personalities engage in moto banter and then go back it up on the track for quality content. Cheers
I hate to see any sort of negative comments towards Haiden, he has worked his butt off his whole time on a bike to get where he is, he is also an inspiration for many kids. He will make a strong career in Moto/SX.
Saw a few races with the 450’s just not the same as the 2stroke races with the 125’s and 250’s and just remember that was a factory 250. And again a 250 running against the 450’s keeps up and without a blowout a possible win. When the 2strokes return I will be at more races. Keep up the good work Deegan. Looking forward to seeing you on the podium.
Nice holeshot straight out of the gate....very nice i get a holeshot everytime i line up an i do it because getting ovet the gate is the big big key very well done....Brian has really done a super job with this kid....
Kailub Russel won the GNCC on a KTM 150 vs 450 factory guys. The GoPro footage is on RUclips. He already had the championship clinched & KTM was giving away the bike (150sx) so he raced it & then gave it away.
@@eliaslundberg8 he was 19. But he’s the only rider in history to win both the 250/450 and 250/open class at mxon on a 250. He also won his first outdoor title as a rookie at 17 years old. Don’t try to compare.
I new Kaplan America was low key the coolest guy ever... no doubt... the deegans came out to visit the NEMM today, super jealous, and on tops of that haiden goes straight to south wick and shreds. #micdropandwalkoff.
I don’t follow any mx riders at all but ever since I seen haiden ride i could instantly tell he’s beast for his age and will be one of the goats in mx.
In my dirt biking years I had two Hondas, one Kawasaki and one Yamaha. They were all good but the 2001 Yamaha YZ125 was the lightest, best running, coolest looking and the most fun of all.
Whatched a recent race with his dad behind the wheel. He got sent back for a penalty with few laps to go. The General won the race with a gap! It’s been built into this kid to never give up. Always give that 100%. Work harder, work smarter. This kid keeps his head on straight!! We as Moto fans are going to see Amazing things happen..
A stock yz250f slowly and steadily builds up to less than 40 hp at the rear wheel at almost 13k rpm. Torque is only 18f/p at about 10k rpm. The hp & torque figures drop very quickly as the revs drop. Let's pretend the "factory bike" puts out 25% more on both figures (which is probably a stretch, in a motor already designed for racing). So now it's at just under 50hp & 22 or 3 f/p within 3k rpm between the peaks. A bone stock KTM 450sxf is already matching that hp at 7k rpm and quickly increasing (while never dropping below 50hp again) over the next 4k rpm. It's also producing more torque at 3k rpm (than the our factory 250 does at its peak) and builds to almost 35f/p over the next few k rpm. Again, this is in stock form. Deegan isnt racing his factory bike against stock bikes at a Loretta's qualifier. So other than maybe a Suzuki, the 450's are pumping around 10 more hp than him, a lot more torque, both of which are coming on much earlier, getting to their higher peaks much sooner, all with much less clutching and shifting to keep them operating in their optimal range. Advantage, 450's. All day.
When my kids are racing and it was the old saying we had is you ain't reckon you ain't riding ain't no way you bringing it on without a wreck it's just impossible not to happen sooner or later the artist staying up at that speed and not reckon that's the amazing part
Good job shame lost front end most likely because used to riding those 4 st but needed more beens on 2 stroke out turns but shame might won it I see Weldone
A stock yz250f slowly and steadily builds up to less than 40 hp at the rear wheel at almost 13k rpm. Torque is only 18f/p at about 10k rpm. The hp & torque figures drop very quickly as the revs drop. Let's pretend the "factory bike" puts out 25% more on both figures (which is probably a stretch, in a motor already designed for racing). So now it's at just under 50hp & 22 or 3 f/p within 3k rpm between the peaks. A bone stock KTM 450sxf is already matching that hp at 7k rpm and quickly increasing (while never dropping below 50hp again) over the next 4k rpm. It's also producing more torque at 3k rpm (than the our factory 250 does at its peak) and builds to almost 35f/p over the next few k rpm. Again, this is in stock form. Deegan isnt racing his factory bike against stock bikes at a Loretta's qualifier. So other than maybe a Suzuki, the 450's are pumping around 10 more hp than him, a lot more torque, both of which are coming on much earlier, getting to their higher peaks much sooner, all with much less clutching and shifting to keep them operating in their optimal range. Advantage, 450's. All day.
Still has a long way to go before he could ever beat canning hell get a shot at pro next year in the qualifier for Loretta's then then race supercross in 2024 most likely
Nope. Any cc 4t up to 250 is allowed in the 250 class and ANY cc 4t up to 450, in the 450 class. He is signed to ride a 250. But they want him getting as much time on it as possible, before the big show (where he'll be confined to 250 racing).
He's on the star Yamaha factory racing team. He has only been on a 250 for like 6 months. He's racing 450s because he has the skill to do so. This is all practice for when he goes pro
Bunny Man Like Larry Bird winning the 3 point contest with his warmup jacket on, it’s like saying “I don’t even have to take this seriously to beat you pussies” that’s how
He doesn’t have the torque coming out of the corners the 450’s have. He has to take the outside line really fast to keep his speed up. It bite him when he blew up the berm.
Once haiden gets on that 450 it’s a wrap, guys like Eli tomac, Jason Anderson, web will be in trouble. Not to mention Jett Lawrence whose on his way up, I believe haiden will be absolutely dominant.
Wow you mean the kid that has millions of support dollars funneled into his life was able to ride the lighter easier bike to ride faster than the heavier far less forgiving 450s?? Well that was worth the millions of dollars right there lol... Why does anyone get surprised when a kid who has had the best bikes trainers gear and tracks to ride since before he would walk wins races?
A stock yz250f slowly and steadily builds up to less than 40 hp at the rear wheel at almost 13k rpm. Torque is only 18f/p at about 10k rpm. The hp & torque figures drop very quickly as the revs drop. Let's pretend the "factory bike" puts out 25% more on both figures (which is probably a stretch, in a motor already designed for racing). So now it's at just under 50hp & 22 or 3 f/p within 3k rpm between the peaks. A bone stock KTM 450sxf is already matching that hp at 7k rpm and quickly increasing (while never dropping below 50hp again) over the next 4k rpm. It's also producing more torque at 3k rpm (than the our factory 250 does at its peak) and builds to almost 35f/p over the next few k rpm. Again, this is in stock form. Deegan isnt racing his factory bike against stock bikes at a Loretta's qualifier. So other than maybe a Suzuki, the 450's are pumping around 10 more hp than him, a lot more torque, both of which are coming on much earlier, getting to their higher peaks much sooner, all with much less clutching and shifting to keep them operating in their optimal range. Advantage, 450's. All day.
@@matthewhealy3940 it's a Loretta's qualifier. Pretty sure they aren't letting a factory bike in a stock class and not too many people are trying to keep their bike stock if they dont have to. Aside from that, yes, we do know they are not stock. You can hear the difference. Even changing a muffler let's a few horses out of the barn. My buddies 450 dynod 68 rwhp on race fuel, with everything else he did to it. I forget what the torque # was, it suffice to say it was somewhere around twice that of a 250
sitting on the couch being n ar chair quarter back if he could keep the bike closer to the ground he was aot faster you could see him lose ground with to much air time
@@hoppersvagina1084 and has earned every penny. As has Dax, Ryder, Hymas, Ashley, etc. Because he has a popular RUclips channel and you've watched the kid grow up, he gets a lot of haters. His dad knows a lot of people. His dad has a lot of money. Neither of those gave him his talent. Helped? Sure. Haiden still had to put in the work. You never saw the tears, the self doubt, the sacrifice.
Imagine how proud Brian is, as a new dad myself I can’t imagine the joy seeing your young man competing with the grown men & doing so good.
Best part about him as he’s grown is his attitude. Brian must have put a couple good ass whoopins on him when he needed it he’s a great example for the sport right now. Could have gone really wrong. Went really great instead the deegans did it right.
my dad said thats what he thought about (that haiden would be cocky and arrogant) when he started doing good when he was little
Danger boy will go all they way to the top ..just a matter of time
Big call considering he's never raced against Lawrence , Craig, Shimoda
He's on Tomac and Craig's team, chasing the best is bound to build confidence
@@nathanpodmore4602 predictions have been made.
Deegan has no where else to go but to the Top of His Sport.
those other boys are just going to have to except this Fact.
@@nathanpodmore4602 he trains with craig😂😂🤦♂️
@@nathanpodmore4602 well then it’s a bigger call by Star .. but they are on top of their game and know what’s happening don’t you think
I actually love this guys commentary. He's so excited.
Stoked you guys got to do an extended hangout session.
I know how valuable that amount of time is for both camps and totally appreciate the effort to document it.
I doesn't hurt when multiple personalities engage in moto banter and then go back it up on the track for quality content.
Cheers
Wow, Danger Boy Blowing Berms out, Great comeback on that blowout, very impressive run with strategic line choices! Blessings 🙏
I hate to see any sort of negative comments towards Haiden, he has worked his butt off his whole time on a bike to get where he is, he is also an inspiration for many kids.
He will make a strong career in Moto/SX.
Yeah, people always going to hate on greatness. Let's just hope it doesn't go to his head. But I think Brian can keep him grounded.
If he stays healthy he will go far
Saw a few races with the 450’s just not the same as the 2stroke races with the 125’s and 250’s and just remember that was a factory 250. And again a 250 running against the 450’s keeps up and without a blowout a possible win.
When the 2strokes return I will be at more races.
Keep up the good work Deegan. Looking forward to seeing you on the podium.
Nice holeshot straight out of the gate....very nice i get a holeshot everytime i line up an i do it because getting ovet the gate is the big big key very well done....Brian has really done a super job with this kid....
This kid will be the face of US MX @ de nations in a few more years. Looks like we'll be well represented. 🇺🇸
Kailub Russel won the GNCC on a KTM 150 vs 450 factory guys. The GoPro footage is on RUclips. He already had the championship clinched & KTM was giving away the bike (150sx) so he raced it & then gave it away.
The kid is not a joke he’s going to be a champion
Let’s just remember Villopoto won a race against 450s on a 250 at the motocross of nations against the best guys in the world 😉
Right on, man! And back when 500's still roamed the showrooms, the O'show ruled the roost against all the MXoN best, on a 125!
@@dirtbikedave absolutely! He was launching down that “elevator shaft”
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but was villopoto 16 years old when that happend?
@@eliaslundberg8 he was 19. But he’s the only rider in history to win both the 250/450 and 250/open class at mxon on a 250. He also won his first outdoor title as a rookie at 17 years old. Don’t try to compare.
This kid has that it factor ...plus great parents and bloodline 😉😉😉
I new Kaplan America was low key the coolest guy ever... no doubt... the deegans came out to visit the NEMM today, super jealous, and on tops of that haiden goes straight to south wick and shreds. #micdropandwalkoff.
I don’t follow any mx riders at all but ever since I seen haiden ride i could instantly tell he’s beast for his age and will be one of the goats in mx.
Love your passion for moto and old motorcycles. Peace. God bless your wonderful country. 🇨🇦
The young man can ride. He is going to be a contender.
That track is a hell hole in the rain lol
This is what I like seeing from your channel you have a great voice for this
Great effort 👏..never say die competitor...excellent
Haiden deegan the next James Stewart
The LADS a pure Gun Kapps ..he's one to watch for the Near future for Sure
Just think about a kid holding a piece of fence right now watching this who will be the next legend and we don’t know his Name yet
In my dirt biking years I had two Hondas, one Kawasaki and one Yamaha. They were all good but the 2001 Yamaha YZ125 was the lightest, best running, coolest looking and the most fun of all.
Yea that kids got it going on. I've watched him for awhile. For sure gonna be something to see in the pros
Whatched a recent race with his dad behind the wheel. He got sent back for a penalty with few laps to go. The General won the race with a gap! It’s been built into this kid to never give up. Always give that 100%. Work harder, work smarter. This kid keeps his head on straight!! We as Moto fans are going to see Amazing things happen..
Haiden Deegan is a badass!
Would love to see haiden on a 250 2 stroke
He's getting stronger and faster.
Big fan of boaf yalls Chanel cool to see it come together
To the camera man, good job. Pretty good commentary also
It’s that never quite I can still win.. never give up!! Go #38
Star 250 probably has more power then most of those 450's. Also he now knows where to not put his front wheel.
No way a factory 250 still wont make as much as a stock 450
A stock yz250f slowly and steadily builds up to less than 40 hp at the rear wheel at almost 13k rpm. Torque is only 18f/p at about 10k rpm. The hp & torque figures drop very quickly as the revs drop.
Let's pretend the "factory bike" puts out 25% more on both figures (which is probably a stretch, in a motor already designed for racing). So now it's at just under 50hp & 22 or 3 f/p within 3k rpm between the peaks.
A bone stock KTM 450sxf is already matching that hp at 7k rpm and quickly increasing (while never dropping below 50hp again) over the next 4k rpm. It's also producing more torque at 3k rpm (than the our factory 250 does at its peak) and builds to almost 35f/p over the next few k rpm. Again, this is in stock form. Deegan isnt racing his factory bike against stock bikes at a Loretta's qualifier. So other than maybe a Suzuki, the 450's are pumping around 10 more hp than him, a lot more torque, both of which are coming on much earlier, getting to their higher peaks much sooner, all with much less clutching and shifting to keep them operating in their optimal range.
Advantage, 450's. All day.
No Way! It's Quick Not that Quick!
What a idiotic statement
star 250 f is 40 hp 450 is 55hp 250 2 stroke is 50
Deegan brought that 38 Special
Epic! Congratulations from Hemet, Ca.
Nice. I had best lap time at my local practice track on a 125 and also did jumps before anyone on a 125 as well.
Surely there’s a video coming of him on a 500???
Remember when tomac was passing people on the outside corners fast af
Good announcing!
When my kids are racing and it was the old saying we had is you ain't reckon you ain't riding ain't no way you bringing it on without a wreck it's just impossible not to happen sooner or later the artist staying up at that speed and not reckon that's the amazing part
Thanks kap...
He gots those 2 stroke rpm valve springs!!## :)
Those guys was lucky Haiden wasn't on his 450 !! He would have Smoked them all....
This B class should be ultra fast at Lorettas!!
It always is
Factory 250 against
Stock 450s he wouldn't keep up with the factory 450s , hes good rider all the same wish him well in the future
No doubt. Factory 450's come with factory pilots.
Likin the content 👍
How did I not see this. Does anyone know if he posted a RUclips video or Instagram posts about this when it happened?
Sounded like there was a 250 two stroke in amongst it also👍🏼
Good job shame lost front end most likely because used to riding those 4 st but needed more beens on 2 stroke out turns but shame might won it I see Weldone
@ 3:37 to 3:40 when I raced I only wished to have a suspension that worked that good lol. That's just ridiculous! Took every bump!
All them guys are amazing. Shit ain't easy. Put him on an big wheel 112 and probably would go faster.
Awesome
I guarantee he will be the GOAT!! 👏👏👏👏👏
I doubt that 250 is down on power being factory ride but I’d so the rider haiden deff makes up for it
A stock yz250f slowly and steadily builds up to less than 40 hp at the rear wheel at almost 13k rpm. Torque is only 18f/p at about 10k rpm. The hp & torque figures drop very quickly as the revs drop.
Let's pretend the "factory bike" puts out 25% more on both figures (which is probably a stretch, in a motor already designed for racing). So now it's at just under 50hp & 22 or 3 f/p within 3k rpm between the peaks.
A bone stock KTM 450sxf is already matching that hp at 7k rpm and quickly increasing (while never dropping below 50hp again) over the next 4k rpm. It's also producing more torque at 3k rpm (than the our factory 250 does at its peak) and builds to almost 35f/p over the next few k rpm. Again, this is in stock form. Deegan isnt racing his factory bike against stock bikes at a Loretta's qualifier. So other than maybe a Suzuki, the 450's are pumping around 10 more hp than him, a lot more torque, both of which are coming on much earlier, getting to their higher peaks much sooner, all with much less clutching and shifting to keep them operating in their optimal range.
Advantage, 450's. All day.
You need to get the autofocus settings figured out, follow focus and image center would help a lot, otherwise great video.
Nice 👍💪🏻🙏🇫🇷
What’s so impressive a factory 250 beat 450 locals
Haiden has skills
Still has a long way to go before he could ever beat canning hell get a shot at pro next year in the qualifier for Loretta's then then race supercross in 2024 most likely
I’d podium on my KLR ffs….
great video
Was this a 450 pro race
Doesn't he ride both 250 and 450 b classes??? And if it's for Loretta qualifications doesn't he have to be on the same cc bike? Just sayin
Nope. Any cc 4t up to 250 is allowed in the 250 class and ANY cc 4t up to 450, in the 450 class.
He is signed to ride a 250. But they want him getting as much time on it as possible, before the big show (where he'll be confined to 250 racing).
So your telling Mr he won the 450 b class at mini os on a 250. Lol. Listen to the bike it don't rev like a 250. Sound like a 450 to me.
@@austinsonger388 Yes he was on a 250.
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On the outside looking in
im new to motocross world!! hes an exceptional rider insane skill but why he is racing a 250 ? against bigger cylinder bike ?
He's on the star Yamaha factory racing team. He has only been on a 250 for like 6 months. He's racing 450s because he has the skill to do so. This is all practice for when he goes pro
He's only 16 need time on the 250 before he jumps up to a bigger bike
No more easy wins
WHO CARES WHAT DEGGANS DO WHEN THEY DESTROYED A GOOD PERSON TO HIDE THEIR CHEATING!
Prodigy kids bad to the bone
U need to be deegans pit nd affical announcer or just at every race
Haiden HAS IS IT SPADES just like his dad
Damn what a killer start! Also a big diss to everyone else, he doesn’t feel the need to take off his jacket! 🖕
How is it a diss?
Bunny Man Like Larry Bird winning the 3 point contest with his warmup jacket on, it’s like saying “I don’t even have to take this seriously to beat you pussies” that’s how
@@clarissafarmer3547 😂😂
Bunny Man 🫡
imagine riding a 450 and getting beat by a 16 year old on a 250...
Ass Danger Boy gets physicaly stronger he will be able to toss the 250 around like the old super mini.
deegan crashed right in front of me lol
Equal riders on board a 250 is no match against a 450...
250 didn't have the balls in and out of corners. Torque wins it
A lot of Yamaha Kool-aid drinkers in this comment section 🤣 Sounds like these Yamaha 250Fs are so fast, fishermen should start hill climb racing them!
Didn't Haiden say his factory 250f has more power than a stock 450. Pretty sure he did, so they don't have any advantage really.
I doubt it come on man 250cc there’s no way maybe close
low end tourqe is the key difference, at the end of the day its almost twice the displacement.
@@oskarskates Exactly
He doesn’t have the torque coming out of the corners the 450’s have. He has to take the outside line really fast to keep his speed up. It bite him when he blew up the berm.
@@oskarskates he rides it in the power though.
His 250 is the fastest bike out there no doubt
I wonder if deegan is on a 250?....
Why a 250 racing against 450?
Them 450s didn’t pull any on that factory Yamaha 250.
Once haiden gets on that 450 it’s a wrap, guys like Eli tomac, Jason Anderson, web will be in trouble. Not to mention Jett Lawrence whose on his way up, I believe haiden will be absolutely dominant.
If you can't ride a 450 you should not be able to run a 250 in a 450 class
Wow you mean the kid that has millions of support dollars funneled into his life was able to ride the lighter easier bike to ride faster than the heavier far less forgiving 450s??
Well that was worth the millions of dollars right there lol...
Why does anyone get surprised when a kid who has had the best bikes trainers gear and tracks to ride since before he would walk wins races?
Who is surprised? We'd be surprised if he DIDN'T at least podium.
@@gilly3380 that would be like spending 2 million on a 92 chevy corsica with a check engine light that won't move.
you act like 250s are slow..
He's going to be good but he's not going to be a goat you would know that by now if that were to happen
Factory 250 vs stock 450
A stock yz250f slowly and steadily builds up to less than 40 hp at the rear wheel at almost 13k rpm. Torque is only 18f/p at about 10k rpm. The hp & torque figures drop very quickly as the revs drop.
Let's pretend the "factory bike" puts out 25% more on both figures (which is probably a stretch, in a motor already designed for racing). So now it's at just under 50hp & 22 or 3 f/p within 3k rpm between the peaks.
A bone stock KTM 450sxf is already matching that hp at 7k rpm and quickly increasing (while never dropping below 50hp again) over the next 4k rpm. It's also producing more torque at 3k rpm (than the our factory 250 does at its peak) and builds to almost 35f/p over the next few k rpm. Again, this is in stock form. Deegan isnt racing his factory bike against stock bikes at a Loretta's qualifier. So other than maybe a Suzuki, the 450's are pumping around 10 more hp than him, a lot more torque, both of which are coming on much earlier, getting to their higher peaks much sooner, all with much less clutching and shifting to keep them operating in their optimal range.
Advantage, 450's. All day.
@@dirtbikedave righto google !!!
You don't know the 450's he was up against were stock do you?
@@stampylove you don't know it wasn't.
@@matthewhealy3940 it's a Loretta's qualifier. Pretty sure they aren't letting a factory bike in a stock class and not too many people are trying to keep their bike stock if they dont have to. Aside from that, yes, we do know they are not stock. You can hear the difference. Even changing a muffler let's a few horses out of the barn. My buddies 450 dynod 68 rwhp on race fuel, with everything else he did to it. I forget what the torque # was, it suffice to say it was somewhere around twice that of a 250
sitting on the couch being n ar chair quarter back if he could keep the bike closer to the ground he was aot faster you could see him lose ground with to much air time
so what!........... factory 250 v 450 amateurs?? lol "he's got it figured out""....bad timing...............
It's not only factory power it's really about unobtainium suspension.
he is still a amateur, the kid has only been racing the 250 for 6 or 7 months.
@@nolansalas671 An amateur with a factory Yamaha contract. I'm guessing with a 6 figure contract.
@@hoppersvagina1084 and has earned every penny. As has Dax, Ryder, Hymas, Ashley, etc. Because he has a popular RUclips channel and you've watched the kid grow up, he gets a lot of haters. His dad knows a lot of people. His dad has a lot of money. Neither of those gave him his talent. Helped? Sure. Haiden still had to put in the work. You never saw the tears, the self doubt, the sacrifice.
These Wic riders ride this track all the time and are pretty good. =NoBody rides for free.
Danger Boy aint to dangerous if you ask me!